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I think we have to talk about this topic and I couldn't think of a better guest than Hugh Deller.

Obviously he has been on this podcast here before.

Welcome back Hugh.

Thank you.

Lovely to be back.

Nice to be here.

Thank you.

Good to talk to you again.

It's a pleasure to have Hugh, an English teacher from London back on the podcast, English teacher, teacher trainer, materials writer.

But for me, more importantly, someone who is not afraid to talk about his views on Ukraine and Russia and he tells his views publicly.

I appreciate this about you Hugh and that's why you are here.

Thank you.

It loses me friends as well as makes them.

I know, I know man.

It's the same for me and my listeners.

I know that I used to have some Russian supporters of the podcast and they have disappeared.

That's fine.

But some of them stayed as well.

So it's not black and white, you know, it's not black and white.

It never is.

So Hugh, I have to ask you this big questionnaire.

What on earth is going on?

So I think what we're seeing at the moment is the result of Trump's influence since he was inaugurated.

Because Trump, I mean, for those of you who don't know, Trump has very long standing links with both the Russian government and the Russian mafia.

The links go right back to the 80s.

I mean, Trump was basically bankrupt and heavily in debt in the early 90s.

His whole business empire in the States and particularly Trump Towers became a kind of money laundering facility for Russian mafia to get money out of the country.

He's long been enamored with and very well treated, shall we say, by the powers that be in Russia in various different ways.

And when he came to power, this time around, he came in with a promise that he was going to end the war in 24 hours.

Anyone who knows anything about the Ukraine, Russia war at the moment, you know, Russia's brutal war on Ukraine.

11 years, essentially.

And they'll tell you 150 years, you know, I know, but the latest one, the latest one, 2014 and then again in 2022.

And you know, anyone who knows the context will know that the idea of a one day one day peace deal is ridiculous.

So I think what's happened is he obviously understands that Putin's not interested in peace.

He recognizes Putin's not going to make any compromises.

He has this reputation of being like Donny the king deal maker.

So he wants to be seen as some kind of great Nobel Peace Prize winner.

The only way that he can see that being achieved is by forcing Ukraine to capitulate.

And I think what we're now seeing is America essentially working hand in glove with the Russians to try to force Ukraine to capitulate.

And first of all, you have the kind of ambush in the White House last week, which I think basically just a setup used as a pretext to withdraw American aid.

So that was that was when Zelensky wanted to find out sign sign that deal that was like some sort of about resources that the deal will know the deal was bullshit anyway.

I know.

But like it was an attempt to sign some kind of a deal and they were trying to change him into signing a deal which gave a huge amount of Ukraine's natural mineral wealth away.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Nothing basically for nothing.

Zelensky was prepared to do it.

Yeah.

Well, we don't know.

We don't know.

But anyway, there was there was something recorded like it was it was it a press conference or was it some kind of debrief or something?

It was a press conference.

It was a press conference and that that's when they fell out in the most unbelievable fashion.

I think our listeners must have seen those scenes, those those footage, footages from that.

I've never seen anything like that, where you have the democratically elected leader of one country greeting the democratically elected leader of another country that's experiencing a kind of genocidal invasion and rather than extending hospitality and kindness and sympathy to them, essentially just kind of haranguing them and browbeating them.

It was just remarkable.

So then what you've seen is a very rapid succession of actions, all of which were probably pre-planned and all of which are designed to try to force Ukraine to capitulate.

So they cut off the access to satellite technology.

After this fiasco, I think, because it's just like Trump, isn't happy with the way he was disrespected by Zelensky, we could we could say what exactly happened there.

This is the Trump line, basically.

Yeah.

You know, because you disrespected me, I'm going to help Russia kill more of his people, basically.

I don't understand.

I don't get it.

I thought America is like with Europe and America was with Europe and now is no longer with Europe.

How can this happen like that?

Like he does.

It's been a long time coming because I think there's a deep strain of isolationist thinking within America, always has been.

And I think what's happened in the last 10, 12 years with social media, with the Internet, with the Republicans, with MAGA, with QAnon, with all of the kind of covid conspiracy, flooding the zone.

I've frozen.

One sec.

I think you're back.

You've melted.

I think there's been an ongoing radicalization process of the American public to the level that you have this kind of cult like belief that whatever Trump says or does must be true.

And I think they've been cultivating that for a long time through through social media and through messaging and through propaganda.

Yeah.

But surely, surely.

This makes no sense.

Like they are Europe's ally.

They have been for years.

After the Second World War, we went we were together during the Cold War.

Surely you wouldn't believe Vladimir Putin, Russia, a state that is visibly corrupt, a state where they persecute anyone who disagrees with them.

Yeah, they will kill or sent to prison the journalists.

They do it.

There's a lot of evidence of that.

Right.

Yeah.

So I'm sure surely you wouldn't believe those guys over over European allies.

That's the kind of way Trump wants to rule.

So I think Trump, like Putin, is looking at the situation and thinking, if I'm not careful, I'm going to die in prison.

OK.

I mean, you know, this is also Putin's fear.

He's going to die in a hole in the ground like Gaddafi killed by his own people, or he's going to die in the Hague.

And I think Trump also understands that there's a long set of legal challenges against him and that he that's true could easily die in prison.

So what he's looking at is he's looking at the way people like Putin run Russia.

And he's thinking, you know what?

That's the way I want to go, because that way no one fucks with me.

You know, no one sticks me in prison.

I rule everything.

It is, you know, he's come he's a mafia boss.

Trump basically is a mafia boss surrounded by tech bros who also don't believe in democracy because they're so rich that democracy hinders them rather than helps them.

And so I think he admires Russia.

And I think the way he thinks about the world is there's maybe three great power blocks.

There's Russia, China and America.

And they're just going to carve up the world between them and everyone else caught in between tough shit.

You know, you're someone else, you're someone's sphere of influence.

So I think it's going back to that kind of weird way of thinking that the two or three great imperial powers just carve up the world between them.

And I think it's also a profound misunderstanding and underestimation of Ukraine because it's like, if Putin hasn't been able to force Ukraine to capitulate after all these years of throwing everything he's got at them, the idea that they're going to just roll over and you know, beg the Americans I think is delusional.

I mean, it's it's only someone who doesn't understand Ukraine can believe this.

But what if what would it change anyway?

Like if you are if you want to publicly humiliate Zelensky you ask him, have you thanked us enough?

Why don't why do you hate this guy?

Why do you hate Putin?

He implied that as well.

Right?

Yeah.

His vice vice.

What's he done to upset you?

He told him what's he done to upset you?

Why do you hate this guy so much?

Why would you say it's like it's like you really want to bully him or you want to bully him and they want to bully him?

What are they going to do with that?

Like are they going to have a stronger position, like a stronger negotiating position?

I think they're looking to discredit Zelensky.

They're looking to discredit the idea that Zelensky represents a country who that's fighting for its life, that Zelensky is a representative of those people who can be trusted and who's honorable.

They're looking to say you can't trust him.

Look, he doesn't want peace.

He wants war.

We want peace.

They want war.

Mr.

Putin wants peace.

I can tell you that now.

You know, that's why he keeps bombing Ukraine.

But Mr.

Putin wants peace and Zelensky is the problem.

If we could get rid of Zelensky, then we wouldn't have this problem.

And I think what you then saw yesterday was another plan that backfired on him where he was talking to Poroshenko's people and what's her name?

Rapunzel woman.

I have no idea.

So he was talking to two previous presidents of Ukraine and trying to get them to sort of, you know, would you be interested in trying to stage elections?

So they're now trying to say he's undemocratic, he's a dictator, we have to get rid of him.

And I think the reason they're doing all of this is to persuade people that actually the problem is Zelensky and Ukrainian resistance.

And that if only they could get some pliable puppet like person in there to do what they tell them, everything would be okay.

And this is playing into Putin's hand, isn't it?

He must be really rejoicing at all this.

I follow a lot of the Russian media stuff as well.

And the Russians are going crazy about all of this.

You know, they're super happy about what's happening.

I bet they are.

Like, I think they didn't see I don't think they saw this one coming in their wildest dream.

No, no, no, no.

It's kind of like above and beyond what they could have hoped for, I think.

And it puts Europe in.

I mean, the one the one silver lining to come out of this is Europe has finally really woken up very quickly.

Because I think most of Europe's looked at what happened and sort of gone, shit, you know, the US is no longer our ally.

It's like the US is working hand in glove with our enemy.

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Let's pick up where we left off.

The US is working hand in glove with our enemy.

I think they were in denial for a long time.

Why wouldn't you be in denial if it's someone who you have always it's like we took America for granted little bits.

Let's be honest, they've always been here.

Yeah.

And and rightly so.

And we have fought wars together.

Like when they say when they say what they say about the UK that they are countries that haven't been in a war for 30 or 40 years may be able to send 20,000 non battle hardened people.

And it's like 673 British people died fighting alongside the Americans after 9 11.

Yeah, this is Afghanistan and Iraq.

And when they triggered Article 5 and there was the attack on Afghanistan and Iraq as well.

Right.

Yeah, Iraq as well.

So I mean, it's interesting because it's kind of united people across the political spectrum in the UK because it's like how dare you how dare you I mean, we fought alongside you in your bloody wars before you know, did we did we send you a bill?

No.

Did we ask you to say thank you?

No.

You know, this is what allies do.

Yeah, it's not it's not very friendly.

It's just it's part of his little rhetoric.

I think it winds people up including myself.

It's just it's just so nasty the way he talks and he is just so unfriendly and undiplomatic and it's just not tactical.

It's all right.

So the positive is you've seen Europe suddenly managed to agree on 800 billion pound defense force.

Right.

And and despite despite despite I think normally when there is someone who wants to veto it.

Yeah, they would have they would have the power to do it.

But I think this time Orban who yeah, they bypassed him.

And I'm so happy about this to be honest, because Orban's days are numbered or band such as such a nuisance this guy that they've needed to deal with Orban and Fidso for a long time.

And I think their days are numbered and that's they're either going to have their votes removed or they're going to have their countries kicked out of the EU or they're going to find themselves very marginalized and very sidelined.

You know, this is this is democracy for me, too.

I'm sorry.

It's like this is 24 countries want one thing and another country blocks it.

It's like and these countries are also minor countries.

We have to say that, unfortunately, like if Czech Republic suddenly wants something in Europe, well, we don't have the same weight.

Our vote doesn't have the same weight as Germany or Spain or Italy.

And rightly so.

It's a bigger country.

Right.

So come on, just be reasonable.

Yeah.

So I think it's it's good.

And I mean, what's also happening in the UK and I guess it's going to happen across Europe is there's suddenly a spotlight being shone onto our own politicians on both the far right and the far left who are appeasers of Putin, you know, and so people like Farage, who's had fun, you know, Mr.

Brexit, who's had long links with Moscow.

Suddenly, he's in a very difficult position because people are asking him, you know, do you support Trump's decision to stop, you know, providing air defenses to Ukraine?

Do you support the fact that Russia's now killing more Ukrainian civilians because Trump decided to stop?

You know, it puts them in a very difficult position and it makes their pro-Russian sympathies more transparent.

And the same with Jeremy Corbyn on the far left, where, you know, his idea is I just want peace.

Let's stop sending weapons.

And it's like, how does that get peace?

How does Russia killing more Ukrainians equate to peace?

So I guess all across Europe, you're going to see the pro-Russian politicians start to come under much more scrutiny.

Yeah, no, this is this is good, you know, this is going to be a bigger war.

It's inevitable.

Do you think it's going to turn into a world war as well?

No, I think it's going to turn into a bigger European war, possibly one that will still be played out primarily on the terrain of Ukraine.

But I think we'll see spillover in various ways, you know, possibly into Estonia, possibly into Finland, possibly into Poland.

There'll be all kinds of cyber attacks, there'll be sabotage attacks, there'll be terror attacks, there'll be kind of, you know, different kinds of hybrid, plausible deniability attacks.

But you're going to see more of that in the next year.

I think we have to defend democracy.

It's just it can it's fragile, but it's worth fighting for and I don't think Russians will.

I mean, the people, the people, the Russian people, they won't they don't they don't care or they don't understand it or they are confused or it's too far for them.

Yes, Putin might want to, but now if you see people start caring about democracy, like, especially in countries like mine, Poland, and these countries who have seen both sides, we have seen it, we've seen it.

We have seen how bad it can be if you don't have democracy and what different it makes.

Okay, it's not perfect.

Don't get me wrong.

Yeah, sure.

The whole Churchill thing about the least worst system.

Exactly.

Some people took advantage of it, you know, there are always some loopholes and things like that.

But it's the best thing we have.

And we have to defend it because you don't want you don't want you don't want to live in a country where basically you don't have you don't have the freedom to say what you think.

Yeah.

And I think Ukrainians understand that incredibly clearly.

You know, they understand what they're fighting for.

And they understand what happens if they lose that.

And they have they have done that since 2014.

Essentially, you know, they've been prepared to fight to the death, to protect their right to define their own future and to, you know, defend plurality, defend diversity, defend freedom, defend democracy.

I think the other interesting thing that will maybe happen from all of this.

Well, I think Macron did a very good speech the other day.

And I think he started to articulate why this is important, because I think for a long time, people have sort of sat back the further west you are, you know, if you're in Poland or Estonia, you kind of understand what's happening.

If you're in Germany or France or England, it's like, it's not very nice, but it's quite a long way away from me.

And I think what people don't realize is and this is where maybe the Czech situation similar.

If Ukraine is allowed to fall, what then happens is the same as what happened when the Nazis rolled into Czechoslovakia.

You know, in 1938, the Nazis rolled into Czechoslovakia, the Czechs didn't really put up much of a fight.

And what then happened was the Nazis took all of your military industrial capabilities and were immeasurably stronger and then pushed on.

If Ukraine falls, Russia takes the Black Sea coast, it takes the breadbasket of Europe, it takes all that grain, it takes all those minerals, it takes all those resources, it takes the industrial military capability, it mobilizes all the angry, pissed off, damaged men who were left, and then it's infinitely stronger.

And you know, then what?

Moldova?

Well, they will take more because there is a saying in my language, like with more food, you get hungrier.

And it's just what would happen because we have seen it in history many times.

History always repeats itself.

And this is human mind, human psyche.

It always works like that.

And they will always do it.

People who say, who's going to stop us?

You know, people who say like, no, they will just take Ukraine, let them do it and let's get it over with.

We don't want we want peace.

Let's not let them take it.

And just that's it.

No, it's not how it works.

It's not how it works.

It's a profound misunderstanding of what taking Ukraine means.

You know, like, what does it mean to take Ukraine?

They take everything there, you know, and it will be disastrous.

And it's a symbolic thing as well.

If they can take Ukraine, well, surely they will take Georgia more.

Of course, they will keep going the Baltic states.

And it's just you can't.

Okay, maybe not now.

Maybe in a few years down the line.

But it doesn't matter.

You can't let that happen.

It's too risky.

It's such a huge risk.

And in the end, either you live in a world where you believe in the, you know, sacredness of international borders and international law, or you don't.

And if you don't, then you live in a world where whoever's more powerful gets to take whatever they want.

And you know, that way lies a very, very dark future for all of us.

This is going back in history.

Like this is what people used to do.

Tribes, you know, like killing each other.

Whoever was stronger had better weapons.

They would just kill the others and they take their stuff, take their resources, take their food, rape their women and stuff like that, right?

That's where we are heading.

And this is why I don't think they will succeed the Russians.

I don't think so, because I believe there are enough good Russians.

I really want to think that.

That don't want to fight this war.

Don't care about this.

Whereas we, we do.

We do care.

I hope so.

Yeah.

I hope.

I mean, I know that there's a lot.

I think a lot of Russians are just still trying to pretend that none of this is happening, you know, and they're just, you know, they want the war to end, but on their terms.

So, I mean, I've, I've lost a lot of Russian friends because you have these conversations and you say, I want peace.

And I say, that's great.

Ukrainians want peace.

How do they get it?

And nine times out of 10, what they say is, you know, they have to respect our sphere of influence.

They have to promise not to do this.

We have to be given this.

We have to be given that.

And it's like, so you're opposed to the war, but you want to be rewarded for it.

What the fuck.

And I think at some point you have to make the war painful enough for Russians that they realize that continuing will only bring them more pain.

You would say, you would say that all those sanctions, it has, it must have done a lot of damage to them and surely did.

But the problem is that the guy that is pushing the buttons and pulling the strings is Putin and or his government guys that have enough money that they are not going to be affected by the sanctions.

Yeah.

It's the ordinary people who are, but they are selling them a dream that, Oh, what, what?

Yeah.

I don't know.

We must be great again.

It's, you know, the same dream everywhere, you know.

So go going back to Trump.

So what is his end game in your opinion, Hugh?

So he wants to be loaded as this, as this biggest peacemaker of all time.

Or he wants to, he wants to be like his legacy wants to live on forever or what?

I think he wants to see how much he can screw out of whatever situation he's in for him and the people around him.

And if he can get Ukraine to gift him, you know, 10 generations worth of 50% of their economy, he'll parade that around as a great deal and say what a great guy he is, even though it screws Ukraine.

If he can get Ukraine just to collapse and surrender, he can sell that as having brought about a peace deal.

I think he's also, I mean, he's also on borrowed time because I mean, I saw yesterday only 4% of Americans support Russia in this war.

4%.

And yet, and this is this, this goes to show how insignificant this issue is for Americans.

Yeah, they already, they must have known.

Yeah, no one voted for Trump because they wanted him to side with Russia.

You know, it's not what they were voting for.

Exactly.

So I think America's also in a very slippery place at the moment, because essentially they're going down the same road that Russia went down in the early 2000s, which is they're finding out what happens when your country is taken over by an oligarchy.

And the oligarchy pretends it wraps itself in your flag and it pretends to be patriotic whilst robbing as much of it as you can.

And the difference is in Russia, they weren't very good at demonstrating and they were easily beaten down.

In America, they got guns, you know, they've got guns.

Like everyone's got a gun.

And so I think it's going to get quite ugly quite quickly over there.

And you're going to see big demos that are going to start to be put down and there's going to be shooting and you know, there's going to be more disturbances on the ground over there.

And it will degenerate there.

And you know, the price of eggs ain't going to get any cheaper for anyone.

That's for sure.

And I hope it serves as a moral to people in Europe as well, which is, look, this is what happens when you vote for these populist figures on the right who promised to make your life better and take you back to the golden age.

This is where you end up.

Will they learn the lesson though?

Like I can see that in the UK at least.

Now if you look at the polls, people seem to have realized that they've made a mistake with Brexit or not everyone, but they are in denial.

They just pretend.

If there was a Brexit referendum tomorrow, it would go back to Europe.

And I think now as well, right?

So of course, the UK is in NATO, is a really important member of NATO, but it's not in the EU.

So not all negotiations are with the UK.

And that's silly because UK is such an important country and they are not at the table now with some of these negotiations.

But I think it's bringing us much closer back to Europe.

I mean, the fact that the meeting after Washington was convened by Stama and Macron and it was in London and they invited Turkey and they invited Canada.

That was really interesting for me that they're kind of trying to put a broad coalition together and the UK and the French are acting collaboratively in a very constructive kind of way.

And of course, in every country, you're going to get these voices saying like, oh, the government's just trying to get into a war.

And it's like, we didn't start this war.

The war has come to us.

It's not a war of our choosing.

I think we'd have all have been quite happy, like Ukrainians were quite happy not to have to fight this war.

I like this one.

But when you're in a war, you've got to fight it.

Yeah, I really like this one.

I saw it somewhere online.

Don't ask Ukraine to stop defending.

Ask Russia to stop attacking.

Exactly.

Russia can end the war tomorrow.

Ukraine can't end the war tomorrow.

So if you want to stop the war, you have to just get Russia to pull its troops out and go home and then the war stops.

It's that simple.

Russia carries on as it was before, sorting out its problems in whatever way it sees fit.

But at the moment, I think, I mean, I don't actually think Putin can stop the war personally, because he knows that if he stops...

It's the end of him.

Well, it's the end of him, basically.

Yeah.

Because we are talking end of him.

It doesn't mean politically.

It might be the end of him.

It might be like physically, you know, hanging upside down from the lamppost kind of end of him.

And I think he's looking at Russia in 2030 with perpetual war and without perpetual war.

And he's thinking that Russia with perpetual war is easier for him to control and rule over than Russia without perpetual war.

It's not going to end well.

I'm telling you this.

It's not going to end well.

And you know...

It's not going to end well for him.

When we both wake up and we find out that, you know, he's dead because it's going to happen.

And he will be killed by his own people.

I suspect so.

I suspect so.

We have been thinking this might happen for a long time.

Still hasn't happened.

But you know, it will.

It will.

It will.

I think so, too.

I think so, too.

He will get his just deserts, you know, because he is just unbelievable evil that he has unleashed.

Yeah, it really is.

And the fact that so many Russians are prepared to participate in this.

I was chatting this morning to a Russian friend of mine who's now in Dubai where she's teaching and she fled.

And she was asking me if I was in touch with various people that we both used to know.

And I was sort of saying, not that one, not that one.

Fell out with that one, not that one.

And she said, oh, good, because I don't talk to any of them.

And you know, I think what she was saying was she was so shocked and stunned by guys that she knew that she'd kind of grown up with, she'd been to school with, who were going off to fight.

So what are you doing?

You know, why?

Why?

Why are you going to another country to kill people?

What's wrong with you?

And they're like, you know, protecting the motherland.

And there's been plenty enough people who have bought into that shit and, you know, are willing to go and fight in that war.

And, you know, in the end, everyone has a choice.

If you go there, you have a choice.

But you have a choice.

But there are things you cannot take back as well.

You know, some things cannot be undone.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's something you should you should keep in mind.

If I say something terrible here on this podcast or insult someone that is that is close to me or if you cheat on your best friend or your girlfriend or your wife, it's hard to undo those things.

You know, consequences.

And here we have like we are talking about people's lives.

Yeah.

And what's more important than than our life and our health?

Nothing.

Yeah.

So, you know, they will they will pay for all this in the end.

Let's go.

It's sooner rather than later, Hugh.

And thank you so much.

Thank you so much for everything you're doing and for talking about this stuff.

It's it's something that needs to be talked about.

And we don't talk about it enough.

And one more thing.

Tell us tell us about your website again, Hugh.

Where can our listeners find you?

Two quick things.

I'm actually going to be in Ukraine next month.

So if you're watching in Ukraine, I'm going to be running training sessions and raising money for Ukrainian armed forces in Kharkiv and Odessa.

And my website is www.lexicallab.com.

We do teacher training, online teacher training.

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Yeah.

And you do talk a lot about this topic on social media profiles.

So you have like one thing is the teaching.

So of course, you you create content to do with I don't know, there's some you explain some vocabulary, obviously, because you're the lexical the lexical approach guy.

But also parallel to that, you talk about Ukraine a lot.

And I really appreciate it.

So thanks again, understanding that, you know, we all have a role to play in the hybrid information war that's going on as well.

Yeah.

And I don't want to get to 60 and feel like I haven't done anything to counter what's happening.

Do you know what I mean?

I want to feel that I've tried to make myself useful.

It's the teacher in me.

You know, it's like you want to feel useful.

Yeah.

And it's like there are several ways you can fight the in the war.

And with guns is not the only way.

Exactly.

No, no, no.

There are many ways.

And you know, Russia knows this as well.

And Russia operates the war on many levels.

So, you know, by doing things like this, we're part of countering that.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Okay, then.

Thank you.

Thanks again, Hugh and all the best to you.

And good luck to Arsenal to thank you.

Love Ukraine.

Yes.

Thanks a lot for listening.

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