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Express that and explore that is because of how dangerous and how like harmful homophobia is within male communities right.
Like if you go out and kiss a guy, you might get fucking jumped right?
Like if you kiss a guy on the street.
Now, this isn't to say it's.
Yeah, because I know it gave you God tell people when you go to these conventions, it gives you confirmation of how far you have grown in your career.
And also, I'm pretty sure you had a bunch of the top towns that you haven't shot with.
Say, we've seen your video.
Yes, yes, I've had people who come up who can make money off of it.
But see, you think about these.
OK, let's just keep it 1 Honey, the girls nowadays don't give a fuck about the money they want to go by.
Yeah.
So so it's kind of like the girl, a lot of the girl that don't show their face with the feet.
It ain't because they make more money with the feet back to where you're not doing the content housing.
You're shooting content, but you're not shooting with everybody got their Mama now the kind of the circled and closed up a little bit to make yourself.
And how you doing today, nephew?
How you doing?
How you doing doing good?
How you feeling?
You can hear me good.
Oh yeah, Oh, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Just just chilling.
And of course, I know I worked at 9:00 to 5:00.
You know, I'm saying relaxing that watching little football, pissed off that my damn 49ers got their asses ran up in, Yeah.
I said.
I was just sitting there talking shit to my old boy and where he was going out of bed.
I said no, we're going to Hamilton Rams and they have a guts.
I was like damn bro so how your weekend me going man?
I've been going good, can't get playing.
So, you know, back to the kind of normal, my normal little routine.
So that's it.
OK, OK, OK, so now one of my wonderful Co hosts in Pretty Little Smoke in Pretty Little Smoke Room, we gonna have a conversation.
It was easy because she was talking about the male talent nowadays is not stylish.
And what I like about you is that you're stylish.
You're where I'm coming from.
So if you how much you make it a point to be stylish and not forget that I do have to track my female friends.
It's it's, it's my brand and my aura.
I do understand that that this a part of the sex business, but another part of the sex business is is an aspect that people don't like get into.
I was just playing like, just because you have a big penis doesn't necessarily mean that you're a charming man.
You know what I'm saying?
It doesn't, it doesn't really, you know, sometime like, and so some of those aspects you romancing and charming and, you know, being able to be likable sometime as a male talent.
And like I said, we have a we have a, we have a hard time, you know, as it is, we got to get hard and perform and and do a come shot.
So like all that and still being able to before all that, that mental thing, being able to be likable or whatever, or make the woman feel more comfortable, you know, which is not needed though.
It's really not needed.
But it's but like, if you could do it, if you could put it off.
But then yeah.
Let's see.
Let's see what you think about it.
We you got to work flirt because you want her to know that yeah, I want to fuck you, bitch.
Yes, I want to fuck you and out and you want her to know and you want to know that she want to fuck you, you know, right.
But at the same Toby, it's like the Jews like put it this way, like you know how some dude just melody and wear boxers, you know, and you know, they they you make it a point to look like something from the camera.
It's like, you understand marketing that I'm a product and I would like to be marketed even outside of porn, even you know what I'm saying?
Even if you're doing porn, what have you ever saying?
Because you got the muscles and she tatted up and all that.
So for you, it's like speak to looking good just as well as performing good.
Oh, yes, it's half the battle because like I said, for me, I want to feel so comfortable that that that shot is different, is unique.
You know what I'm saying?
She might even fall into a place where she have a real orgasm on camera.
That's kind of really what I want anyway.
I wanted to be so organic.
And like I said, and I need to just touch this because as male talents, I just talked to a female talent, she don't really realize how much we make.
So as as if I come on set and I'd be like, you know what, I understand we just worked.
But if we, if you ever want to do our own thing, yeah, You know what?
I'm.
Saying yeah, yeah.
That's the how we can, you know, we can make these relationships and also we can keep the money flowing, you know, so.
Yeah, because what?
Times where we got paid anyway.
Yeah, because see, I said it before, women are the worst winners in porn because they're going to make more money than us.
Despite the fact everything else.
Even though Brent is in the top 1.4% of only fans, he's the only dude that I know that's in the top 1.4.
Yeah, that means yeah.
Yeah, I said that what I said no, he's not 1.4.
You know You know you in red hair, right?
Yeah, for sure.
There ain't too many dudes.
It's in the top 10% of all that.
What do you traded that to?
Building a relationship with my fans.
So I never forget about it.
So like, you know, you can get caught up in the women.
The women already got paid 4 times with you.
And a lot of times we, we get the rolling with the women.
We, we forget about the fans.
So I never forget about my fans, you know, and I have a close connection and, you know, and, and me just being a great performer.
So like I said, you know, we just making sure they take, they took care of first.
Really I got to take care of them first because like I said, once I leave the seat, I have them.
But if you forget about them, they'll forget about you.
Oh, really?
They'll forget about you.
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Now this dude here, I'm already he's a spoiler lady.
He's in my, you know, Next up list that I'm dropping in here for Mel talent.
He does Prince Joshua's shit.
He reminds me of the John John to the guys that I grew up watching and analyzed and actually copied in my mail town here.
And let me tell you these people, he is a bona fide star.
I'm talking none of it.
Then the boss man himself.
But I'm going to shove and let the boss man introduce himself.
Tell me you is my brother.
Hey, my name, boss man Dre.
You know, not not just the name, it's the lifestyle.
So like Louisiana Creole coming in, just giving my culture, me making the impact and me building relationships with, you know, the female talent.
And just like I said, come behind those guys.
You just make putting my own stamp on his industry.
That's it.
Yeah, because, because I saw him picking up a girl.
I said I wish I had my years back.
God damn, I wouldn't have had my years back.
And for you, before we even go into how you got into it, you do paid as well as content.
Yes, I must commend you for doing the paid gigs because I know how they shoot.
Oh yeah, I avoided Hollywood for that reason.
How were you able to adjust my brother?
Really, really.
Like I said, me coming in, yeah, me just being the type person I am, the woman made me feel comfortable because I made her feel comfortable.
So like the day is almost like I'm almost on when she get makeup, I'm having elevated speech.
I'm making them feel come she make me feel comfortable and it's like we going to forget the cameras there, even though I know the cameras there.
You know what I'm talking about.
You know what I mean?
I want.
To I.
Want to be as Norman or as organic as possible and like I see if she down.
And she cool.
Then we did always like we we having regular sex.
But of course, like on camera, it's certain angles that you got to capture.
Yeah.
You got to understand the cameraman, you got to understand all of that.
But like I said, half the bad is having that woman, especially because I never, I never work with a new woman.
So when I came and I'm already working with seasoned talent.
So they I'm just doing my thing like I'm at the house, but I understand angles, understand you know what I have to do, what I don't have to do and like the most important thing I got to give them that pop shot.
So.
Yeah, because I, I said this before, as a male talent, we the engineers of the scene, we have to put them women in position to look good.
We control the scene, right?
Like we got to have that, you know that Sherlock Holmes.
I see it before we do it.
Type men.
Oh yeah, oh, yeah.
And and like I said, and like I said, she taking your guidance man, it makes it whole lot easier.
Yes it does.
And she don't have no attitude or she just she's easygoing.
She want to have a good time.
Oh, yeah, let's just like you're already getting paid, you know, like you're already getting paid.
So let's, let's really have a good time with Jerry yourself.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I said, I want I want to have an orgasm, maybe come close.
Why not?
You know what I'm saying?
Let's, let's, let's have a good time.
Really.
We going to get paid And let's you know, it's ain't like with the type of job, it's not a lot of thinking involved really for us.
No thinking.
The more the more you think, the more you don't execute.
Oh, yeah, we don't get twisted.
We it's like in the midst of the fuck we like, all right, let's see.
We go, go to the we're going to go to the missionary next.
So for you, how did you get, what brought you to the industry?
I was just making normal content, this doing music and monetizing it, just making normal content.
God damn it, once again music.
It's the gateway to porn from male talent.
So yeah, I started making music and just creating this normal content and then I met met this young lady.
She was already in the in the building and doing like content only fans.
And then she like you, you know, you know, you should take your clothes off.
And then I was like, well, why not?
You know, because I'm because she still like you, you know, I feel like you think I can make some money.
She like, yeah, you could.
So hey, say less.
So I I really started with a content partner and I just started doing my solo, my solos too.
And from solos match with me being a content partner, I kind of just started to blow like hilarious.
And see for you because I did do some some solos man, but you how you do it because and two, where does the solo plays in the brand?
Oh, it's, it's, it's a big part of it because like I said, that's that big part of the male talent that some males don't do it.
But that's that building the relationship with your fans because you know, when I when I make mainstream, the point of view is the 130 points of view the fans want to see.
It's really you and you being able to give them that in real time.
But me doing solos, you have to really be creative.
It takes time to really learn and execute it smoothly.
You know, it's, it's an art form to it just, you know, same way that women do follow.
So.
But if you if you do it well and, you know, you're able to, you know, kind of, you know, trying to be that Swiss Army knife, you know, Yeah.
Yeah, so like.
I'm going to leave, you know.
So so do you implement toys?
For sure.
So the toys that I use no insertion with me, but the toys I use is like the female female bottom part.
Yeah, I got you.
So, you know, at the end of the day, I get to, I get to give them that, that fantasy, you know, you know, so that that female bottom, bottom part and I get to insert the female toy and things of that nature and maybe do like rings, cock rings, maybe just toys like that and the master, you know, masturbate with the toys.
So like, yeah, that aspect of it, yeah.
Yeah, because it's like with men, it's not much of A market for our solos, but it's a market there, you know what I'm saying?
And not everybody can sell a solo, right?
Because I ain't going for it.
It shocked me because I just did like a couple just with the fuck of Andy Soul.
That was like.
Of course they.
Like that shit?
You never, you never know that that you had that fan that just like you.
They just have to, some fans just going to give you give or going to buy what you give them.
Yeah, and sometimes easier, though.
You ain't got to deal with no attitude.
You ain't got to do nothing.
You just get the toy out.
So like I said, you would do, you would work with the content part, you would do yourself.
So when did you start collaborating?
And then from there, when did you start working with the pros?
Well, I built a good foundation, which is by myself and my content partner.
And at the end of day, they started to this whole Twitter world started to kind of go viral on Twitter and Instagram.
So at some point, you know, you get offers and acts to collapse.
So I just, you know, started just collabing, you know, and, and, and fortunately for me, I I was collabing with, you know, bigger creators and they just helped me out along this way.
And then from that Asian restart, like, hey, man, you want to, you know, you want to do this mainstream.
So yeah.
So like from that, it's just really, but just the fans really going viral.
So yeah.
Damn but Asian just stepped to like hey bro, you know I think you would do well on the big leagues.
I said, you know, of course I'm the same way.
Like, yo, you sure the money like yeah, alright, let's go with it.
So.
Yeah, no, I could have told you because you got the body to look and yeah, the girls run you right?
They'll have no problem getting up for that.
So you *** be like if we shoot two, we shoot 2.
Back to.
Back so so when when the page did hit.
Because that's different than content.
Yeah, a lot different.
You know what I'm saying?
How is that adjustment?
Because now you got to take direction.
Now I don't have time to develop chemistry with this female so much because they getting her ready for her, make up her pretty pics and stuff.
How was that adjustment for that?
See what you did that?
Adjustment.
I just knew when I step on the scene, like when I step in the door, it's like it's game time, you know, so it's game time.
I know I got to I got to be about I got to execute really and legit, like I said, like I tell people from the start, be being involved in or just being around that pimp and hoe game and just sex with that's really just the lighter hand.
But wouldn't like not, you know, like I said, home girls that strip escort things of that nature.
You know, sometimes you don't have time to really build in a relationship.
You just got to be quick.
You got to be quick words that you say, you know, it's not no, it's not a it's that you have so just the impression that me making on a woman real quick.
You know, we already know what we're here for.
You.
Know hey so.
It's a damn shame my cat hitting that damn exit right.
Who?
That he's attracting pussy in another state.
Really.
Yeah.
So sad that yeah, I'm coming on and I'm really just, yeah, just making, making my presence be known.
Like I said, it helps help that we know we about to have sex anyway, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm I'm already relaxed lady.
We about to you know, it's for the woman she about to get paid you about to have sex.
I'm I want to you know what I'm saying?
Let's have a good time.
So yeah, for the most part trying to begin.
So we come to your content because I was asking females, they switched this.
What do you look at when it comes to working with the females?
Because yeah, we.
Yeah, if we want to fuck you, Yeah, that's part of it for sure.
But it's your level because let's keep it 100.
They do producers on it.
They watch.
What the fuck you fuck on that damn cat.
Oh, yeah.
If people don't believe me.
And it will cost you bookings if you fuck the kind that ain't feeling.
So if you, How do you go about your process of picking who to work with?
It's a blessing, like I said, the aspect that I take from the ISM the game I I really I focus on my fan base and I get chose and it really helps out a lot.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a a woman going to understand and she and the choosing part of it helps out a lot, a lot you.
Know what I'm saying?
I put myself in the position to be toes.
I take care of myself, working very well.
You know, I show my numbers so when I get chose, half the bat is already done.
I don't got to do it.
All I got to do is shut up and be myself and really work and do good business.
By me building a good relationship with the girls, doing good business, they're going to promote me more.
So it's not like it's going to be a crazy window time because you know, you know, like the girls come here, you knocked down one properly, it might be 3 more, you know.
Just Oh yeah, could they talk?
They're going to talk.
They go talk.
They they yeah, you should work with Trey.
Right, right.
So.
That way guys don't understand.
It's funny like my man Sean Don say shout out to Sean Don the legend.
He say if you wasn't getting pussy before porn.
Right, right.
It's tough, right?
Right.
Because like I said, helped about it is like people skills, you understanding women, you know what I'm saying?
Like and really knowing how to how to just be a player really, you know, because other than that, it's going to be a challenge because there's so many women and they just seen it all.
They didn't hurt it all, you know what I'm saying?
So yeah, it's going to be a challenge.
So because it's all about the approach, a lot of guys don't understand that.
You know what I'm saying it it the way you approach a girl come to porn is not the way you approach them on the street each other day because especially the level of girl you trying to holler.
You know, Chris, what's on top of that?
Speaking of the fact that the shooting content prior to all this kind of helped you, because a lot of guys don't understand, I tell you this, you need to get some shoes on, leave your belt before you want to holler some of your tricks.
Oh yeah.
So that you come from in front of the camera.
You used to be in front of the camera, even, believe it or not, jerking off.
Doing solos help so speak to practice making everything.
Oh yeah, Helps out a lot.
Helps out a lot because like when you show up and you know, and it's it's, it's it's like that.
So you walking up to a girl, you know, and we see it in real time and you you get involved in these parties and stuff like that and you know, and she going to say put your pants down.
Let me see.
Like it's like, you know, and the director might say the same thing.
And like, so at the end of the day, if you ready to go, like I said, that's that part of executing, you know, that's your trial really.
Sometime, you know, if you can't, the nervousness is like, we're going to get somebody, you know what I'm saying?
Because sometime you got to be just ready.
Sometime, you know, it's that approach of it.
Because season 1 might say, you know what?
All right, let's, let's give you a test line.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's, let's see what you got.
Let's see what you're working with.
And then if you beat timid, there's no way.
Oh yeah, and because he also don't understand some middle game.
Oh yeah, it's, it's more men for us than the women.
Oh, yeah, a lot of men, you know.
So if you can't get it up, if you can't execute right, you don't understand the angles, you know, you don't make the female town look good.
It's going to be a challenge.
It's going to be tough.
Now, speaking about that, if you had moments where Mr.
Mr.
wasn't working, you had to recollect yourself.
How did that go?
I never had those moments, my moment.
Lucky man, I had them a couple of times in my career, but not me.
Never had those moments.
My moments was more so it's time to it's it's time to come now.
So now I have to relax.
Now I'm learning, you know, you know, so it's like it's time for the cum shot.
Now we get more season, you know, you know this stuff.
I got to give him the money shot.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no.
So you weren't.
It was that you be shooting and then you're going to be happy.
You were like, OK, let's try this, You try this.
You need a pop shot.
I wasn't ready yet.
You know what I'm saying?
So I can I can go like I never have a problem with going but now I have to relax now to get the actual cum shot so.
You see, And that's why you're getting broke because people don't understand it's these things a look, you Dick dependability, dependability.
You can come on.
You stay on.
You know what I'm saying?
Because we don't realize especially that you wear there is a white list.
If you come too fast.
Oh yes, it's a black list.
You people think I'll be joking about this shit.
Oh no, you come too fast.
That's as bad as you fucking up on Yeah, especially with the level you, especially when you talk like you pay gigs.
Yeah, and you can't get it back up like you, you know, some people they want it done.
So it's like, yeah, it's, it's a wrap.
You know, that's, and that's where the solos come in too.
Like, you know, you've been you've been able to even if you was to come you getting back hard and just getting getting, you know, getting back in at it.
They understand that.
Try to come again.
You're like, OK, you know, might have something there.
You know, you might have said that scene a different way, but it's like, Nah, we OK, You don't waste everybody's time.
So also one of the things that we have to make a sacrifice in our personal sex life and chase this business being tested, we just can't fuck like we used to.
And I'm pretty sure it's hard for your ass because I'm pretty sure you get thrown at your ass on the record 0.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
So for you, how much of A judgement that have been?
You know what I'm saying?
Because you don't realize a lot of times the only sex we get is on camera because you can't do anything.
Yes, because we got a woman.
So I'm, I'm at the point now like, and I'm so new and I'm trying to right now I've been promoting myself to get my first, you know, nomination with ABN.
Yeah.
Yeah, and X biz and of course, I'm going to roll over and keep rolling next year and going to get my Urban X nomination just promoting myself.
So I'm so new.
I'm really dedicating my you know my my life to this because after the day as a male of talent, I can get so caught up in this and forget about my fans, which they can stop financially supporting me and I can't execute on these jobs.
So really we it's only it's only so many times we can come yeah, bro, hey, once that hey, once it don't come out no more.
It's a rap you.
Know oh oh shit, or if it does, it ain't the one they want.
She's shot.
She's just clear.
They don't want no drifts, you know they they don't.
Want no clear?
They need some cream and then.
They want something thick and creamy, you know, So and then.
So have you done any country house, country trade houses or trade events for?
Sure.
So so for you, how did you pace yourself?
Because like you said, it's that strong pop that they want.
How do you pace yourself with how many shoes you do during the day?
How much time you take between for rest on?
It the first thing I learned, first thing I learned was, you know, and it's, it's my first time talking about this.
I came in, I like, I want to look my best.
I'm going to eat light and in that aspect I kind of like you got to know how to breathe and.
I.
Didn't understand it at first, you know what I'm saying?
Breathing your face, knowing how to in pockets go hard and pockets be smooth.
You can overheat.
Yes.
And you know, for me now it's like, Hey, I'm going to look how I'm going to look.
I'm going to get a good hearty meal and I'm ready to go now, you know, and it's smooth and others all.
And then I did from another director.
He was like, it's like dancing.
It's kind of is because you got to understand pace because you're so because like I said, and shoot houses was very beneficial for me because I I know I can go right now, like double booking, a triple booking.
I know what I need to do.
I know what I don't need to do, you know, and you got to put yourself to the test.
It's almost like a a crash course because you might get for us.
Well, you know, you know, that money be like that.
So if you get an opportunity, yeah, or, you know, or like I said, we go to these award shows and this this, this one, you know, Sarah J, come up, be like, hey.
Hey, can you squeeze me in?
Can you squeeze me in?
Hey, you better.
You better get yourself together.
Is it.
But see, that's the thing it's like that why I said when it comes down to us being male talent is that you have to know your body more so than anything else.
Oh yeah, and that, like you said, pacing because the reason why I learned pacing was when you have a cameraman, I can't see how much the Dick she's taking if you pounding like a back damn bat out of hell.
Plus it gives this it tells a story with the scene because you slow down one, it also helps her right, because not every girl could take pounding like that.
You know what I'm saying?
You know you don't want to dry the pussy out.
You won't be creamy wet where have you, you know what I'm saying?
Plus on top of that, people don't realize reset, right?
The way you think it's a second blowjob in the damn scene at the scene because I need to calm down a little bit.
I need to breathe.
You know what I'm saying?
People don't really understand that when it comes to the filming side of things.
They just think we fucking.
Oh yeah, it's definitely not that.
And like I said, that smoothness is saying that smoothness and and and learning how to just be smooth and does it give them some penetration.
You basically like, you know, you ain't sticking much in them, but you relaxing, you know, because at the end they will work because, you know, you look, you act that director, how long we've been he like 10 minutes.
You like damn, you don't want to be that guy.
Yeah, bro, I didn't get a 12 minute seat.
I thought we went to 25 minutes.
I said damn, you gotta look back at the bitch.
I said no, I actually don't need to add nothing more to it there.
That was a 512 minutes.
We came all the positions.
I said that.
Yeah, so, and then they'd be like that.
So pace.
Pace is, you know, pace, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and see that what people don't learn because see they so used to watching that only fans fucking right.
You don't understand the pacing and what it's for and why?
Because it looks better on camera Two, you, you, you don't want to boil a viewer because you don't boil if you pounded her the whole damn time and you don't make yourself come fast and.
And at the end of the day, those unique penetration scenes, that really is not much insertion.
Yeah, they want to, they want to see, you know, penis penetrating.
So a lot of there's not much insertion in in what those angles and that's your your pockets where you can relax and when she relax too ain't never know.
Some women actually might prefer that I might you might actually get that Scrooge scene or that come yeah, I'm seeing out of her.
When you just relax and you get your feet up under you, you kind of, you know, not really penetrating her as much, but you kind of you giving them you give them the sea penis going person.
You just pound it.
Yeah.
Yeah, because, because the thing about it is that, like you said, you don't want to blow yourself up, right, Because you don't meet.
You can do that, you know what I'm saying?
Because once again, there's no AC on people who likes a hot.
Yeah, and you never know how she's feeling.
She might have had one of them or you know.
What I'm saying, yeah, Oh yeah.
Especially when you do like country houses or convention because you might be third man down in her shooting rotation.
A Yeah, you might have to be extra gentle.
Right, right.
You might have to beat that, you know, and you, you would rather that because you don't want to say Nah, we're just going to do a blowjob saying Nah.
You the.
Most you can't get out of it, you know what I'm saying?
So.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah, because it to me, I you you understand how to make sensual with horror and a lot of male talents, great male talents understand Facebook.
They understand all that and we're happy.
They also understand how to read the room and read the female a lot of times like you talk other talents, how much, what mistakes you think they make when it comes to the family, you know.
Elevated speech with the woman.
It's it's the most important thing because it's my thing.
Hey, how you doing today?
How was your day today?
I'm saying that she had an argument with her husband.
Yeah, you.
Know what I'm saying?
Let's let's be honest, we all got normal lives, you know?
She had some stuff going.
How you doing today?
You feeling OK?
You looking good, you know, Hey, So what do you like?
What do you don't like?
I would never start a scene and I don't know what she don't like her do's and don'ts, right, because it might be something that that's something that's normal to to and it's something you just don't like, you know.
So at the end of the day, he might say I don't like it kissed on the ear.
Just do it.
It just tells me something.
It might.
You might mess up the whole scene.
You.
Know so at the end of the day so that's the biggest thing is just that and yeah yeah it's not building that just basic conversation because we know we're going to have sex anyway you know so having having that we ain't got to get to know each other like that we just got to.
Be comfortable now when it comes to us male time I talk about this with the females when it come to us finding ways to make money other than content because one of our biggest money makers is content right Women y'all have too many ways to make money.
We are liberty.
So what ways have you looked into to make money outside of content?
This is a content house that I'm in.
So yeah, so so I rented out on Airbnb and pure space.
So at the end of the day, like me just being a brand that itself.
So when when I maneuver is multiple links and like I said running those subscriptions up and some some of this stuff is not it's safe for work.
Yeah.
So like I said, branching off and, you know, doing the music and hopefully modeling well, I modeling and TV, you know, television entertainment and really capture everything and we do it anyway, you know, and like I said, some of these scenes are acting involved.
So that aspect of it just being that brand, you know, and getting products, you know, because I'm I'm a content creator first, so I create content and get brands.
So you know, to pay me to advertise and promote their brand.
So.
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure you got something safe.
Toys.
I need you my sponsorship.
Yeah.
Yes.
And do you have a toy?
I have a toy intimately.
Yes, I do have a toy.
Oh my God, how do you feel to have a toy they have your gig to sell?
Hey, it feels good, you know, And at the end of the day is it makes me accessible, but not accessible, you know what I'm saying?
That's like the biggest thing, especially, you know, it's like my brand and my world like because, you know, sometimes we get these, you know, these these wildlife.
I want to book you or something like that, you know, from a person and like just buy the toy and you get same experience.
How about that?
You know, you know.
I'm pretty sure you got how they buy some cuckold couples.
Oh yeah, for sure.
I already know.
Yeah, so.
Oh, man, now as you did, how surprised was you?
How many porn stars are married?
How many of us are married in relationships in the whole line because it because it's the time when you couldn't broadcast that in the business.
Oh yeah.
And, and now it's it's so open and in the pioneer community kind of like have embraced it and and lot the lot, lot of lifestyle as they do it also.
And it's just they do it with grace.
So I think, I think it's almost like either you take us or you don't and too many lifestyles that's in the business.
And I like that because they understand it makes things more smoother.
You.
Know me having a conversation with the female talent's husband who is going to film us right but this is not something he's forcing This is something that they do yeah I saw it was way more easy to work with than this person He's a he's a like I want to say a regular guy, but he doesn't he's trying to make himself force himself to watch his wife get versus.
The energy in the room because trust me, I've been there with the boyfriend and dad.
You wondering is he going to swing home?
Right, right.
Because I'm digging this shot.
This woman, right, right, right.
So at the end of the day, but lifestyle as they understand and you know, and they, and they actually do it in their, in their private life also.
So it's, it's way, it's way more easier, you know, So, and, and that aspect of it makes it way more smoother.
You know, especially and like, and like I said, once most of the female talent, they get seasoned, they get married.
Most of those women are married, too.
Yeah.
It makes them more smoother, you know, So I like that.
And for you as a man, I've never had this conversation before.
As a man, how much do you make it to go during the shoot?
I understand the shoot to make a call because as a male talent, that isn't that wrong.
We make your ass come right, feel right.
Right, right, right.
There's a bad driver, so how much do you focus on trying?
Yeah, I'm going to get this motherfucker to come on camera.
I want to do it every time.
Why not?
Why not?
Because at the end of day, I know I I have to execute so perfectly and I'll and it's that's, it's almost magical when I go to a scene.
The cameraman.
Yeah.
He likes the way I work.
The director is doing his thing.
Sometimes that's the same person, if not multiple people in the room, like the way I work.
The female attorney likes me.
I actually make her have an orgasm.
So it's not going to be the last time I see her because on top of everything, I do good business.
She want to have that experience again.
You know what I'm saying content wise.
So, yeah, content wise, so now we, we might get make some money different kind of ways.
It's almost magical, like man, you know, on all levels aspects because, you know, and because we have the sex, why not?
Why not have an orgasm?
You know, why not?
I'll be the person that that you enjoy working with.
And you also, especially depending upon the environment because yeah, content trade, yeah it she she's focused, but she ain't got me as focused as a piggy.
Right.
So it's like to make her so comfortable that she comes.
It's almost like it's a work of art.
We we talked about boom, right, the makeup person over there, the caterers over there and she's squirting and coming.
Eight people in the room so at the end they when they get to that point like, hey, I, we good, you know so.
And see two also.
I also speak to the time built on set, not just towards a woman, but see, you're not only being watched by the woman, you're also being watched by the producer and the director, right, Right.
And then looking at certain mannerisms of a man disaster how conscious you are of when he produces the Raptor watch.
Oh, everything I'm super conscious and I feel like that's the reason why I exist because you're like and even in normal sitting outside of the the the the shoot before when you're outside, he might be smoke break.
He want to like, you know, especially with me, they want to see like, is this guy?
Is this who he say is?
And.
At the end of the day, and they they see the women, they see, you know, like I have a conversation and might see she blush and she smile a little bit.
And, you know, of course we might get to do a little, a little talking, a little flirt or whatever.
And they're like, OK, yeah, this, this, this, this is the guy I paid to come here, you know, So, yeah.
So at the end of the day, yeah, for sure.
I know, I know like this.
Sometime you don't get these opportunities again.
Oh no, I tell you, once you give them opportunities, you better take advantage of them, bro, because there's not many of us and as you get high in the level, it gets less of us.
And these and and that's the case sometime why not and why not I don't want to deal with somebody new when I know somebody's more reliable yeah yeah.
So when you.
Get hold on because no, trust me, I I I didn't seen on on the big level.
Oh, he ain't working.
Get him out of here.
No, it's a different, It's a different, it's a different beast when it comes to more money on the table.
So you got to, Yeah.
If you don't have that mindset, you can't block certain things out.
You're over thinker.
Don't do it.
I tell content credit all the time.
What I'm doing is it's a brave task, but I do it.
Make it look easier.
But if you're not willing to perform in front of strangers, don't do it.
No, if you if you camera shy any of that couldn't trust me, I didn't seen it.
The the the the the UPS can't get it up, can't keep it up, can't bust a nut.
In some case, the fucker didn't even just show up and I had to step in.
And a lot of time and a lot of time, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, and all this type and all this now you show up last time we show up, but we don't know who the woman is.
Yeah, sometimes, you know, so I've been times like I just show up and I just that day I might know.
So all this other stuff like you got to be able to work so that yeah, that you're typing more attractive and all this.
It doesn't really matter in this business like that.
So at the end of the day it helps but got to show up and work no matter who as a met the man and you got to better come and work all this other stuff.
Maybe the female talent can pick who she want to work with.
But yeah, pull up and show work.
You walking in it may not be your type.
It's your type today.
It's gonna be your type.
It's your type.
I've been there.
I do like them here.
She got on though.
I'm, I'm hard now.
Let's go.
You got it, got to go there.
Well, you got to find something because if not, they got it.
They got a dough for you and they got a dough for you and they don't mind.
Open that door and they going homeboy, where you at?
They going?
They got somebody else they going to call.
And, and they will tell the next person and the next person the next person.
Trust me, it's a big community, but it's a big biggest, but a small community.
Right, right, right, right.
So people, I didn't hear this man up here and there's a lot we ain't touched.
So, you know, I got to ask the boss man.
Yeah.
The $1,000,000 question, boss man.
Drake, can I call you a smoke buddy?
Oh, yeah, she say no more.
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So what did you smoke over the day?
What did you learn from two men of porn?
Well, let me tell you what it is once again.
It ain't that easy people.
It ain't that easy.
Y'all think we just walk on set?
We fuck these bras and ain't shit?
No, it's at first convict conditions that we got to deal with.
Imagine sitting there with these hot ass screw your lights in your face.
There's no air conditioning.
You in Arizona?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Oh, by the way, the girl you fucking don't love sweat.
And it's a hey, you dropping Peter sweat in her face and she's like, hey.
It's your head he getting tower, you know what I'm saying?
But not only that, it's men just like the women.
We had to find other ways to generate money other than content, you feel me?
We also got to come up with different content.
He discussed solos.
You feel me?
Hey, I'm wrong about solos.
I thought solos ain't that big.
He proves me.
He proves me wrong.
See, that's why I'm doing this podcast.
My man.
Mr.
Magic.
He was getting paid to play with sex toys.
You feel me?
It's called no different than the women.
We are product.
We make our money off of goods and services.
The problem is you just got to find the goods and service you can make money off of.
And don't be afraid to try different things to generate money because once again, as men, we don't have many ways of doing it.
You feel me?
And even more importantly, the one thing that you learn the most.
If you're not comfortable in your skin, you're not going to make money in this.
Because you want to know why gay men, Transgender women?
The LBGTQ is our biggest fan base.
Right.
Right, Sustained fan base.
Because you want to know why every girl that he done fucked on his site, the CIS men, the straight men, then he went and checked out their site and then spent money on theirs.
Because they watch who we about to fuck.
The people that are there for us is that level.
And of course some straight men who find us cool and and and want to live back curiously through us.
But the point being is, like he said, you got to remember your fans.
You gotta remember your.
Fans, that's why you see some of these male tasks like him, like myself Thor walk around butt ass naked, take Dick pictures.
You know why we do it?
To keep our fans engaged right?
To keep the fantasy going.
Because sometimes a picture speaks more than 1000 words right?
You feel me?
It's called building the fantasy and even though we are men, we are still a fantasy.
That's why you got to look stylish.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like my man right here, he looks stylish.
You look like 1,000,000 bucks, you feel me?
So with that being said, you know how we end these things all day every day.
Life is a learning experience.
What's the point of the experience if you haven't learned anything?
Smoke this over boss man, tell him goodbye.
Hey boss man, Drake checking out.
Hey, hey, let him know that you enjoyed it.
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