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AEW All Out 2025 Breakdown and Welcome back Jurassic Express!
Episode Transcript
What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to another episode of Wrestling with Freddy.
Today it's Wrestling with Friends because mister Jeff dies with us, and we're going to talk about AEW's all out, get into our predictions and how they went.
Predictions went much better with the WW stuff.
They're easier to predict.
You guys know that.
And I talked myself out of one that I shouldn't have.
But we'll get into that as well.
Afternoon pay per views very old school, that's what aw did we love that?
Competing matches going up against each other.
We kind of hated that but loved it at the same time.
But we got a little return slash debut.
Maybe I don't think it'll be a debut.
It's probably more of a one off with Beth Phoenix now known as Beth Copeland.
We'll get into everything.
Speaker 2Let's start our show.
Speaker 3And now your main event introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy, check Da and a pretty friends tune.
Speaker 1Mister Jeff, how was your weekend?
Signor?
Speaker 4I had a rough, rough week, so I appreciate you guys letting me take last week off.
It was just would not be good to have me on all teary eyed and acting and acting weird.
So I'm happy to be back.
It was exciting to have so much wrestling this week.
I love whenever it's a ple e weekend, so that part was great.
It was a good wrestling week.
And also for my Seattle Sports it was a good week, so in those ways.
Speaker 1It was positive.
Go Seattle Sports.
What did they do?
I don't know, like what happened to the Seahawks.
Speaker 4Astros and then the Huskies won in the Apple Cup and me wearing this hat makes it kind of blasphemous that I'm even talking about this, but it was.
Speaker 1A good Seattle Sports.
You wear every baseball hat in the world.
It's like guys that have every wrestler shirt in the world.
Pick your favorite and move on.
This was Toronto.
Toronto loves their wrestling.
They don't get it as often as Americans do, so you know, I'm not crapping on American crowds, but they just you know, we see it all the time, so we don't get as hyped as the towns that don't get it all the time, at least the major products.
Right, So Toronto went bananas and they opened the show with Toronto's own Edge, Adam Copeland and Christian Cage formerly known as Christian the Asshole and the Viking versus FTR, which is Dax Harwood and Cash Wheeler, and Stokely Hathaway came out.
He can't get any hoes, so it sucks for Stokely Hathaway.
Life's tough for him right now.
But the crowd went bananas for Adam Copeland, and it's so wild to me, Jeff, I know the first verse of every wrestler's intro.
After that, I couldn't tell you a single word, not because I don't care, because I can't understand what they're saying.
These crowds know every single word, and because they're all yelling at once, I can't understand it, so I can't learn the song.
Ever.
I guess there's lyric videos on YouTube.
I've been told, but I've never seen one of those before.
I don't know how they do this, but they go so bananas and to see these older hats appreciate that response and you see the adrenaline like going crazy in Copela Door, You're like, dude, don't blow out before the match, like you know, like he was so hyped, but It just makes me feel good to see like Randy Orton get his song sung in Paris, and to see Adam Copeland get his song sung everywhere he goes.
And I don't I know, you don't always like the crowd involvement, but I feel like you dig this too.
When they're singing along and partying.
Speaker 5Right, Oh, I love it.
Speaker 4I love love, love love that, and it shows that like the wrestler, that they've got some support when they're coming down the ramp.
Let's do all the fan, let's do all that.
That's that's your time to shine audience.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 1There you go, yeah, that's yeah, yeah, I have.
Speaker 4Maybe you're confusing that I've criticized when the wrestler's lip sync their own lyrics.
Coming down, like Rio Ripley is like a girl going, I know all the lyrics to this.
You're like, yeah, yeah, we know, we know.
Just come out and be badass.
Speaker 1How does she know the words?
I don't know the words.
This match was awesome, But the part that kind of like tickled my heart, Jeff was when Sina had his match.
I think it was against Sammy's Ay, and he was like shouting out all his bros and wrestling by doing their moves right, and he did Edge his spear and he did.
Speaker 5The like come on, get up, get up a thing.
By the way, you didn't know this was a thing.
Speaker 1I didn't know that.
Speaker 5Is there a history become a thing?
Is there a history?
Speaker 4I don't mean, like, well, I want to honor Stone Cold, so I will steal the Stone Cold Stunner for this match.
Speaker 1Yeah, I wouldn't call it.
I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't call it stealing.
It's like I'm paying tribute and homage and respect.
Probably I just can't think of it off the top of my head, but I'm sure it's been done.
But the good energy was returned in full by Edge as he legit did the scena you can't see me and the shuffle and brush the dirt off his shoulder and hit them, which is so out of character for Edge, but for Adam Copeland at AEW it feels right and it just made me smile when I saw it in the match, and you knew the good guys were gonna win.
The good guys had to win.
Shout out to Dax Harwood, who wrestled with a freaking broken nose.
That got smashed a few days before, and instead of getting it fixed and all lovely, he's like, Nah, I'm just gonna leave it broken and wrestle professionally and get hit in that nose repeatedly every time my face hits the freaking canvas.
So respect to both teams, love wrestlers that that bleed sweat and cry for their art.
We got a lot of that in that opening match, and with the tears were Beth Phoenix.
Man, this was like they sort of did this in WWE, but they didn't give Beth this moment, and this was kind of my favorite part of the match.
Dude, this is how you want your wife to go.
This is like straight up Patricia Arkhead and true romance, like taking a beating for her man and not giving up where the cash is.
There's a moment, Jeff where or Adam Copelan is handcuffed to the ropes and Christians all beat up.
They FDR killed him so he's dead and now they're gonna kill Adam and he's like, go just go, baby, just go, And like every dude with a wife was like, Yeah, that's what I would do too.
I just take the beating and tell my wife to go and not watch it, and his wife literally Beth just goes basically fucked that.
I'm sorry.
She starts trying trying to whip asses and they're like, now we're not having that, Beth.
We're gonna put you in a pile driver, jump off the top rope and last year neck too, and she took it like a freaking champ.
It was so awesome.
This is after the match is won and everybody's feeling good and they're like, yeah, you don't get to feel good anymore, Toronto.
And then they went and killed They killed Beth too, so everybody's dead, which means the rivalry is not over, and I'm really excited because the match was a ton of fun.
What was your favorite part of this match?
Was it the Beth Phoenix part two?
Or was it when she speared stokely?
Speaker 4Like?
Speaker 1What was your favorite part of all this?
Speaker 4I definitely liked the part you've already addressed that he was doing all the you know, the tribute John Cena stuff.
And then John Cena actually posted online photo of Edge or Adam Copeland in the Ratedar Superstar.
He posted a picture of it as like another, Oh that's cool, I just keep going back and forth, which I like.
Also, if you want your wife to defend your honor physically, Beth Phoenix is definitely the wife you should have.
Like that's like, yeah, not everybody you know, see them punks, is my wife's gonna come out here and handle things.
And his wife is this tiny, beautiful woman that doesn't you know, she's not that physically intimidating.
But one Copeland, she's she's known to be a badass.
You can break her open and she'll still keep wrestling.
You know, she'll wrestle before she gets her ditches.
Speaker 5So I just like the whole match.
I thought it was very, very well done.
Speaker 4I wasn't here to pick who I thought would win, but I definitely would have picked Adam Copeland.
Speaker 1Yeah, this was the easiest pick of the night.
Both Alex and I picked Cope and Cage to win or Cajun Cope.
Sorry sorry Christian Cajun Cope.
And that was my Christian impression.
By the way, of course they won.
Stokely, Hathaway still has no hose, and we're gonna start a gofund me account for him so he can get himself some hose, all right, Next match just we're stupid.
Next match is Eddie Kingston versus Big Bill with Brian Keith uh not the outlaw, the bounty hunter coming out there to help him whip ass.
This was a singles match.
It was kind of made on not kind of.
It was made on collision with Big Bill beaten asses and saying, Yo, every I'm the King of New York and everybody's you know, chanting for your name, Like assholes are chatting for Cmpunk's name over in the other company when when another wrestler's out there, I'm going to show you that I'm the King of New York.
And Eddie Kingston's like, are you out of your fucking mind?
I will come out of retirement, not retirement, but off injury and bust your ass.
That's exactly what happened, Jeff.
He went out there and got an Eddie got his ass beat for a long time.
But that's kind of his thing, right is like you can whip my ass, but at the end of the day, I'm tougher than you.
I can take more of what you can dish out than what you can take when I dish it out.
If that makes Does that make sense?
Speaker 5Yeah, He's very like mankind.
Mankind.
It's almost like he was liking the pain a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1Like that like it was.
Speaker 4It's a very ma Sichistic, like, all right, I can just endure more punishment than you, and I wish more wrestlers had that reputation or stylings.
Speaker 1You love Darby, and Darby does that like tenfold.
It's like, yeah, you might be able to win my ass, but I'm gonna always get up.
Speaker 5It makes the other wrestler look good too.
Speaker 2I like that.
Speaker 1Agreed.
This was to me an easy pick to Alex, it was an easy pick.
Maybe for y'all it wasn't so easy.
So you trusted us, and you put some big money down on mister Eddie Kingston, the Mad King, because if you did, you won, and you won big.
Now that doesn't apply to this next match.
And I'm a fool, all right.
I'm an idiot and a fool because I picked MJF to win a match that's out of his element and a match that was completely in Mark Briscoe's element.
And I even told a story of how MJF could lose this match, and instead of listening to that story, I was like, oh, that's just some fiction, bad booking on my part, and no, it actually would have friggin worked.
And when I look back, I was like, oh, yeah, that totally makes sense.
I should have picked Mark Briscoe to win a match that he invented, basic not invented, but called out, and I didn't, and I lost you guys money, and I'm sorry.
However, if you went with Alex and I on all these picks on both shows, you ended up making money because we got more right than we got wrong.
So just remember that, Jeff, tell the people how you felt.
What I thought was going to be the bloodiest match of the night.
I forgot that John Moxley was on the card, but this, even though I kind of love him blood there were some squeamish moments for me.
So I'm gonna let you take over, sir.
Speaker 4I would have lost anybody who was using my picks a lot of money, which I have a track record of being right in the middle.
I think I don't think that anybody would say, oh, Jeff loses all of his picks or Jeff wins all his picks.
Speaker 5I'm very, very in the middle because.
Speaker 4I always just pick who I like best, and there has never been a time that I would have picked MJF to lose anything, and so I would have definitely picked MJF and lost you some money.
If you want to talk about a match that just had pound four pound great spots, this was.
Speaker 5This was your match.
Speaker 4And also old Freddy about I don't know a year ago would have really liked this hardcore match because it wasn't bloody, and it wasn't as bloody and gooey as a as a John Moxley match.
So this is an old school hardcore Freddy Prince Junior match, plenty of great spots.
I loved the you know, the the table spots with the old tax.
We need to get back to that.
I miss those days, you know, tax hurt.
Everyone goes ooh.
And then also we don't see a lot of blood because it's just tax.
There's not like it's not like a bandsaw, which is what we'll be doing in ten years from now.
Speaker 5They'll say, oh, the the whoever cuts the other guy's legs.
Speaker 1Off is what's gonna hapen Texas table saw match.
Speaker 5It'll be some crazy nonsense.
Speaker 4So this match was great and it wasn't too it was it was still it was a great way to make book a match that was awesome to watch but not super super gross in my opinion.
Speaker 1There were tacks in the back of my man's head.
Yeah, that's cool, and the glittering bro I was that was the part where I was like, uh, someone pulled those out right now, Like I could feel them in the back of my head and it made me uncomfortable.
And you're right, I'm and I'm liking blood again, but sometimes it gets me bro I like it more in movies when I know it's fake.
Anyway, I picked MJF, so did Alex, and we let you guys down.
I'm sorry.
And the hits keep on coming, Jeff, because we let you down twice in a row.
This was a trios match, the return of MVP with the Hurt Syndicate Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin.
A standard of excellence that few people can can can reach and I picked them to win because of that standard, and I was wrong.
Some shady shit went down to this match that I'm not that I'm not liking.
It should have just been straight down the middle, but it wasn't because Ricochet's andol Con and Toyo Leona.
They won the damn match and I lost you guys money, So the future will still be bright for Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin.
I'm not worried about them in any way, shape or form.
Can't wait to see Bobby go after the title so I can pick them to win and be right and make you guys some more money.
Senor Joffrey, how did you feel about the Hurt Syndicate losing this match.
Speaker 4I don't really have an opinion about the Hurt Syndicate losing necessarily, but I liked the match.
I think that I'm almost starting to feel like ae W was like the Triple A compared to not Triple A, because there's a wrestling group called Triple A.
It's like the minor leagues to WWE.
Now, the whole time I'm watching the match, I'm like, I wonder if Ricochet could come back to WWE.
I'm wondering if if Shelton Benjamin or Bobby Lashley could call.
I just keep thinking like that, and even though it was a great all I could just that's all I could keep thinking.
But any any match where you got Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin and Ricochet and these other guys are good too, but those three alone is going to be an a plus fun match to watch.
Speaker 1And Ricochet is playing a really good dickhead right now.
He's even like shitting on people online and like he's just he's really he's being a better heel than he was a babyface, and he seems like a nice guy before he went all heel on everybody, So I'm sure he's like a nice dude in real life.
He just got married, so someone out there loves him.
But man, is he a piece of shit out there?
Like he's doing great?
Yeah, wormy guy Weasley, wormy Yeah, slimy, slick son of a bitch.
Anyway, moving on back to our winning ways on this show and back to making people money now.
Granted, not a hard one to pick.
They didn't give Rio a big story here.
I'm talking about Mercedes Money versus Rio for the ae W TBS Championship, Mercedes Money and Missus hundred and twenty three Belts versus Missus No Belts.
Rio and Rio came into this match with not a lot of momentum, so I don't think that's why anyone was gonna pick her.
You just knew you'd get a good match and that's what we But Mercedes Monday wins again.
This is sort of the foundation and the building blocks that she's gonna stand on.
I'm still waiting for the story, you know what I mean.
But the matches are The matches are always awesome, Like every match she's in.
I'm like, yo, man, she's one of the top top chicks in the world.
I don't mean chicks disrespectfully.
I call guys dudes and girls chicks, and I mean it all in the same way.
But I know some of y'all don't like chicks, so sorry about that.
But yeah, dude, her matches are all money.
But I just would love to get her in a story where you know, she's being hunted, hunted and threatened in a more you know, in a more creative way.
That's all, Jeff.
That's how I feel.
I agree.
Speaker 5One, she is too big of a star to just go.
I don't know.
Speaker 4We gave her the belt, you're like, I know, but it's not enough.
This is It's a great example that like wrestling has to be a story.
It doesn't matter how how technical the wrestling is or how fancy your outfit is.
Speaker 5When you walk out to the ring.
It has to have a story, that's all we care about.
Speaker 1The AEW Unified Championship Tournament final had a story, Jeff, and it has a story of some potential conflict within the don Kallis family between Okada the champ and Kenoske, the challenger in this case, but they're brothers in arms within the don Kallis family, Okata being the newest member of that family, so there's a little friction.
There's a little hey, new guy, what's up?
Speaker 4Man?
Speaker 1Like, why are you tagging me out when I'm trying to wrestle when they're in a tag match, and all of a sudden, he's like in this triple three, he's like, yo, why are you trying to take my title?
If we're in the same family butthole and Canosk Is like, don't call me a butthole, dickhead, And it's kind of getting like that, like two alpha males kind of going back and forth, and don Kallis is loving it because he just loves like alpha dogs fighting to see who the best is.
He's not even really picking side, he's just like, yeah, let's fucking go.
If you want to fight, let's fight.
So that's the story there, and they had a mascara.
Dorada in there is like a third triple threat, but everyone knew he wasn't gonna win.
He was just there to look awesome and do sweet and luchador moves.
So they're all in there now.
Alex and I both picked Kenosk We thought it was time, but we did present an example of how and why Okada could win as well.
So if you bought that and didn't talk yourself out of the pick like my dumb ass did, congratulations And if you listened, I'm sorry once again I missed some on this a W they tricked me.
Sometimes they go left when I go right.
WW is a lot easier to pick, but this match was sick.
Okada is the friggin man, Kenosquez the man, Moscatra is the man like all three of these dudes.
Moscot I couldn't have won or it would have felt weird, and we'll get into a one that felt weird in just a moment.
I freaking I love the Japanese dudes, and Dorado was awesome too, but quickly becoming like one of my favorite wrestlers.
I just love the stories he tells in the ring.
Care what his English is like right now, I just want to watch him do his thing.
He's like a Japanese Randy Orton as far as like ring psychology and the way he moves in there and that kind of shit.
So anyway, those are my thoughts on a match that maybe not a lot of people cared about, but I thought it was cool and I liked the conflict.
Speaker 4Take it away, Jeff, I was just gonna say, it's a tough match to pronounce all the names.
I'll say that if you got those three guys also a second ago, I was just saying, hey, listen, we need story.
Speaker 5It's not just wrestling in costume.
Speaker 4This had great wrestling, incredible wrestling, had good story, and needed better costume.
These guys, these Japanese wrestlers, they just come out.
They're a little single it.
Maybe they could step up the wardrobe over there in Japanese wrestling.
How's that for constructive criticism for the Because Japanese wrestling is so pure, everybody loves it, like that's where you get your stripes and wrestling.
As you go to Japan and there's nothing, there's not much to cred size when it comes to Japanese wrestling.
But let's let's let's work on the costume.
Speaker 1But you shouldn't like the the old school Mike Tyson when he just come out with the town.
Did you like that or do you like more like the UFC entrances were like Israel Atisania is coming out and doing all his wild shit, Like what did you prefer?
Dude?
Speaker 5I love a get I love the big crazy stuff.
Speaker 4I want them to have like full you know, come out as a whole dragon, you know, like Mortal Kombat style.
Speaker 1And you know what I'm saying, like like the old Chinese dragon parade where yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4I like that.
Speaker 5I'm into that.
Speaker 4And you know what's funny is all the female wrestlers in WWE and the Japanese wrestlers Oscar Kyrie sing, they they have so much going on.
Speaker 5They're so great to look at with the costume.
Speaker 4And the makeup and the hair and all the stuff and the props and the things they come out with, the masks and all the things.
So why can't the male Japanese wrestlers step it up a bit with the costume?
Speaker 1Too manly for you, bro, They're just too manly.
Speaker 4No, well, it's just too too boring to look at but I say I will, I'll give their give them their flowers.
When it comes to wrestling, and when it comes to the story, it's it's all a plus plus plus.
I was just trying to find something to criticize, and I realized I just said, we don't care about costume, and I'm like, well, I care about costume on this when it's not good enough.
Speaker 1Well, you criticized yourself too, so it's all fair.
Well, you love gimmicks.
The next match was a gimmick match.
It was a coffin match, and once again you knew Darby Allen was gonna go full force into a frigging coffin, and he did so.
If that's what you were hoping for, it didn't disappoint.
I'm a father of two and it scared the shit out of me when he does that because he looks so young, and I'm like, that's somebody's child.
And this was a blood bath.
John Moxley was like bleeding out his friggin head and his ear and his face, and Darby Allen was covered in it.
There was blood in the tag match too, but it was a different kind of blood.
It was like little bits of blood.
This was like gushing horror movie blood.
John Moxley doesn't care.
He will cut himself for his art and bleed all over that canvas every night of the week if they let him.
I'd imagine he came out with Marina Shaffir, who's been doing a lot better.
I have even heard her cuss on TV.
She was like, you get the fuck out of my way.
She wasn't playing.
And this was the Darby Allen match.
He would have won, and me and Alex we picked him to win, but that bastard Pop made his freaking come back.
He cut his hair, That son of a bitch wrecked it, and he assists Moxley.
Moxley gets the wind.
Don't forget they got Daniel Garcia out there.
They still have Wheeler Yuda that everyone hates those those chants still exists.
That's kind of funny.
And he still got Claudio too, so the death writers are no freaking joke, and Moxley gets the wind, which keeps him and them strong.
Darby then later that night wanted to kill him and burn him and murder him is illegal.
You can't you can't do that, Darby Allen.
You can't be a sore loser like that.
That's that's a spoil sport straight up.
That's what we call you in the eighties if you were kids a spoil sport.
Speaker 4He was.
Speaker 1You know, I know you love him, but that's that's a spoil sport move.
That's like slapping the wrestler after he beats you.
You know, that's punk move.
We could talk about EO.
Skott too.
Anyway, I got this one wrong.
So f this match.
It was really good, but but I lost it, so I hate it.
Go ahead, Jeff, take it away.
Speaker 5Yeah, I loved this match.
This has all the things I like.
This is, This is all the stuff I'm into for sure.
Speaker 4This is what I used to exaggerate about in ninth grade whenever I'd come back to school and tell people about E.
C.
Speaker 5W that I watched on my parents' TV scrambler.
Speaker 1You know.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, and then there was one part where he put him in a coffin, and then and then later he tried to set him on fire.
I mean, this has all the things a teenage boy wrestling fan loves, and I'm here for it.
All the things Darby Allen does that I think are cool.
I would hate if someone did in real life.
I don't really like the example it's it might be setting for people, and maybe this is just me getting old.
But I was there for it and love a coffin match, love John Moxley, love Darby Allen.
I thought this was very very very very well done, and this is the kind of stuff that can keep AW in business and put it to the top, maybe someday being greater than WB.
Speaker 2It was.
Speaker 5It was very very fun my type of shit.
Speaker 1The weirdest match of the night, Jeff the AW Women's World Championship, a fatal four way that Tony Storm, the champ, asked for because she doesn't want to be defeated.
She wants to be killed in that ring.
That's the only way she's going to stop, and so she asked for this.
She got it.
She got Chris Statlander, she got Jamie Hayter, who was my dark horse to win it.
Although I had Tony retaining versus Tekla, who's new to the game and does some cool, creepy shit, but we don't know her that well yet, so I don't think anybody was gonna pick her.
I was certain not going to pick Chris stat Lander if that was your dark horse out there.
Someone respect to you for making this right.
She won straight up via pinfall.
Tony looked stunned, not as stunned as me, not just because I don't like losing.
I was shocked.
I haven't.
I hadn't seen a story or a clue that would lend itself to me thinking Chris could win that match.
So congratulations, and I wish I wish her all the best.
I wish her good luck.
Man.
I want to see what they have planned for her title reign.
Is it a temporary thing?
Are they giving her a shot?
They're going to give her a story?
And they got something planned?
I don't know, but it caught me totally off guard.
I thought Tony was for sure going to win, and eventually it would be her versus Jamie Hayter in like a singles match with a story behind it.
But yeah, they tricked me, They tricked Alex, and I think they tricked everybody.
Did they trick you, Jeff Dye?
Speaker 4Well, I didn't make any picks, so I kind of watched this half heartedly.
And since I didn't make any picks, I can confidently tell you I would have chose all the.
Speaker 1Correct I would have known it.
So I'm sure you would have.
Speaker 5I would have bad.
Speaker 4You should have listened to me, because I would have one pretty good.
I see you actually picking her.
Actually, yeah, no, I wouldn't have voted for Tony Storm.
I'll tell you that, so I could have.
You know, Chris Chatlander might have been might have been my pick because I'm a little Tony Storm hater.
Speaker 5But this was It was fun.
It was a fun match.
I don't have much to say about it.
Speaker 1I was wrong, so after that match too, all right?
Next up the aw World Tag Team Championship, a four way ladder match, A lot of chaos in the ring, hard for my old eyes to keep track of everything, but still a really cool, badass match.
I did not pick Broddo to retain.
I had the Young Bucks going over because they've had some good luck going their way lately, so did Alex.
What I didn't anticipate was Jack Perry coming back.
What else I didn't anticipate was them going you know what, heal?
Jack Perry wasn't the best Jack Perry.
The best Jack Perry is Jungle Boy, and I agree, and the baby face Jack Perry is back.
We didn't know at first, we thought it was evil We're like, oh, evil Jack Perry's back, and then the young Bucks were gonna beat his ass.
Lucasaurus comes out and beats their ass, and all of a sudden, it's the return of Jungle Boy and Lucasaurus to the tag team division, and everybody gets to love him again.
And he'll cut a good promo talking about where he's been, what his goals are now, why he's changed, all that good stuff, and welcome back, Welcome back Jack Perry to professional wrestling.
I was wrong, even though this match was cool.
F this match too.
Speaker 5I know you loved it, Jeff, I was fine with it.
Speaker 4Here's the thing, this might be a controversial take, but there's some wrestlers who should never be healed.
I've said it before on here a million times.
This he'll face, he'll face, he'll face.
Nonsense in wrestling is I've got a lot of fatigue for it.
I like when someone is bad, and I like when someone is good.
This flip flopping back and forth is annoying.
But also there's some wrestlers who should just never be good guys, and some wrestlers who should just never be bad guys.
And I didn't buy Jack Perry as like this badass heel for one second.
I mean it, it's I think that he is a he's a little underdog, He's Luke Skywalker, He's we should be.
Speaker 1Rooting totally with you on that.
Speaker 4Yeah, he should be our our guy that we root for, that we identify with.
Like Jack, we want you as us as a good guy.
And I think same happened with John Cena as a heel.
Like John Cena as a heel, we just didn't buy it.
It wasn't enough.
We're just watching it gone.
But you're the guy, You're the make a wish guy, You're the you know, the troop guy.
You're you're you're the you're you're our hero.
And I think I know that this also might be not well received, but everyone that I've ever talked to in wrestling says it's easier to be a heel, and so, yeah, I guess that's why you probably like because it's fun to tell fans to shut up, and it's it's a little easier to be a grump and mean, and like, it's kind of fun to be the naughty, the naughty piggy and the mud.
But some guys should just be good and that A great example of that is Jack Perry.
In my opinion, title of this episode is Piggy in the Mud.
Ah more good storytelling.
Speaker 1In the main event, the AW World Championship, Adam Hangman Page versus Kyle Fletcher did not have a ton of time to set this match up, but Fletcher was so superb on the mic throughout this and his point of view on who he is and what he sees as obstacles and how he approaches life and obstacles was so clear cut and so well written and executed that I was very, very excited to see the match because they had both men had a reason why.
Adam Page community his side of the story very well, saying I see a lot of myself in you, Kyle, but you're not ready to carry a company yet.
You're just not ready.
You're twenty, you're physically ready, but you don't get all the responsibilities that come with it.
Kyle Fletcher's like, Yo, fuck that, fuck you.
I'm young.
I don't listen to advice from old people.
I'm not trying to like that was his point of view, right, Like, don't take advice from someone you wouldn't ask advice from.
Is that like young mentality instead of like, no, dude, you can learn a lot from just about everybody out there, so steal what you can and make it your own.
Speaker 4Right.
Speaker 1That's the more open minded way of looking at advice, whether it's solicited or not.
But Kyle Flescher said, fuck you Freddie and fuck you Adam Page.
I'm doing it my way, and he did, and this match was awesome, and he wrestled cocky and confident.
He wrestled like a man who was ready.
Adam Page was right, and he retains the title via pinfall.
The don Kallis family couldn't interfere.
They weren't allowed to.
Damn you, damn you with your smart negotiating tactics at In Paige.
So he got a straight up match, and Adam Paige the champ got to keep his promise, which was you aren't ready yet.
It would have been looked really bad if he lost and was wrong on his reasonable So this was an awesome match.
Hangman's growing on me, Kyle Fletcher.
We said it when he was in it when his tag team partner first got hurt, Like yo, that guy's way cooler than a partner, Like yeah, like we both liked him we just didn't know if he could talk.
Well, he could fucking talk, and he's a TNT champion and he's gonna talk a lot of shit, Jeff.
Match of the night for me.
I loved it, and again I thought the reason why I was awesome.
What'd you think?
Speaker 5I thought it was awesome.
It's never gonna be the match of the night for me.
Speaker 4When you have a Coffin match and a Laddin for Wall, you know, I'm never gonna give it the match of the night.
But I do love a lone cowboy, and I do love Hangman Adam Page Kyle Fletcher.
I am a huge fan of I don't see him as like my guy who I'm rooting for, but he is incredible in the ring.
Speaker 5So I really really like this match.
Speaker 4The spot of Hangman Adam Page doing his like like I don't even know what the move is called, but like putting his knees through the table man that went viral.
Speaker 5I saw it like twenty times.
Speaker 4I was avoiding wrestling, including our text threads, because I was like, I don't I didn't get to watch Wrestle.
Speaker 5Paluza until literally yesterday.
Speaker 4I didn't watch this till after Wrestle Palooza at like two PM, Like I was, I was just sitting there trying to catch up on all the wrestling and I was avoiding any kind of spoilers or anything.
But I was on I was inable to avoid that table spot I got it.
It was just everywhere on Twitter.
It was everywhere on my Instagram, so it's kind of tough to avoid, but that means something good.
Speaker 1People loved it or people liked it.
Oh, it was great.
Speaker 4This match was awesome, and I think everything happened as it should have.
I think hang Men definitely should have retained and are and you.
Speaker 1Know, I just I loved it, Ladies and gentlemen.
That was the aew all out the very first max Era aw pay per view not too hard for me to buy.
It was very manageable for my old brain to process how to get the pay per view.
So thank you for not making it too hard.
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