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Drama Darling, Drama Darling, Drama Darling.
Speaker 2Hello everybody, Welcome back into a fabulous Friday.
Right here on Drama Darling, we're ending the week on a Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap.
Joining me today are Deanna Chang and Jamie Moyer.
Hi, ladies, how's it going?
Hello?
Hea Hella?
Hi.
This is exciting because the episode was amazing, and you know, before we get into that, I just want to mention because everybody's talking about it.
Did you see on the news, the worldwide news is that Bronwyn has separated from Todd and they are splitting after nine years of marriage.
Speaker 3Thank you, congrats Bronwen.
I am in your corner, Darling.
Get away from that Chairrry's stealing pussy.
Emotional affair, Internet weirdo.
Speaker 2You know, you can't always be with someone who's moving and grooving, and that's what Todd is.
He's always moving and grooving.
He's moving and.
Speaker 3Grooven, you know, starting and charting, oh, swiping and wiping.
Speaker 2You know, here's the thing.
We all saw it coming.
We knew it was going to happen.
It was in the works the second that she hit the hit the stage with a snowflake in her hand.
It was it was a work in progress.
It was set.
The course was set the minute that she got on Housewives, and we all saw it coming.
It was great and I'm glad it came to fruition.
Speaker 4It's called a lily pad, right the jump.
It's a lily pad to jump off your life into reality television.
Speaker 2Yeah, she needed the help of of us.
You know, she needs the help of the viewer to get her out of that situation.
And you know, I think Muzzy helped in terms of, like us get you know, being more on Bronwyn's side, and you know, she has our full support.
Speaker 3And she got some financials of her own right now too, She's got some money of her own to get playful with.
Speaker 2I wonder what the situation will be with their you know, settlement and things like that.
Did they have a prenup?
I think they did.
Speaker 5Yes, I believe I remember hearing about a prenup.
Speaker 2Yes, all right, Well that's exciting.
So I mean, now that we got that covered, why don't we welcome ourselves into this unbelievable episode of Beverly Hills.
Hey, welcome t Wow.
Wow, guys, wow, I think we need to go right into Kyle and her under the Oaks interview, if you will, Oprah Style on the porch with treating about Cardigan T shirt hair, saw of glasses, yes, Dianna glasses, very little glam and Erica stepping in for Oprah, you know, to ask the questions that is so.
Speaker 5Good, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2I mean it all, it all makes sense, you know, I mean it is sort of what we thought.
Speaker 3Uh.
Speaker 2You know, obviously she's now admitting she was in a relationship with someone.
We know it's Morgan.
We we know that now she's admitting she fell hard, she fell in love, she was vulnerable after her split with Mauricio, and uh, this person did not want to be in this situation with the tabloids and such.
So you know, now we've seen Morgan on the show.
We've seen Morgan and Kyle in the music video.
We've seen Morgan posting.
You know, we've seen her be a part of Kyle's life in this regard.
Okay, I think a lot of people are saying, well, she did this now all of a sudden, she has a problem, doesn't want to be mentioned.
You know, she's Voldemort.
But I will say I think she didn't know what was coming.
I think she yeah, you know, and I am I'm fine with giving that to her.
I'm fine to giving it to Kyle to say, look, she had to protect her at some point because she was going to split and run.
Or do you think it was Morgan's excuse?
Where are you guys landing on this, Gianna, Let's start with you.
Speaker 4You know, I think that we could never imagine, even though we've spent so much time with these housewives, what it would be like to be on the show and to get all the attention and heat and you know, just minute to minute, that story was so hot, and I think they were being paparazzied, unlike a lot of other housewives who act like being paparazzied, I think they really were.
And then you go into well, there's also this girl who is has her her own full image that she's crafting.
She's young, she's building, and she may not want once she was in it, to be associated with the show, which I think is fair.
Speaker 2You think she learned that lesson after she asked Kyle to be in her music video.
Yeah, okay, Jamie thoughts.
Speaker 3Think that Morgan is being a little bit of a bummer on this one.
If you love her, just be in there, like, go for it.
And also, you're not gonna all publicity is good publicity.
You are trying to be a music artist, you know, if you love her, why can't you just be on it?
But I guess Morgan also could show and you just mentioned Todd what happens when a hostile person is on the show.
Todd didn't want to be on the show and it just made him look like more of an ass and it ruined his life and now he looks like an asshole on TV.
So I could see Morgan being like, I don't like a hostile spouse on Housewives doesn't play well.
So if that's her, she's seeing the writing on the wall, and so she she cut out, cut loose mm hmm.
Speaker 2You know, I don't really see it as it's a no brainer to me on so many levels.
But I do think, as Erica put it so perfectly, you're between a rock and a hide place.
She had to really moll over that one.
Speaker 6It seems that you're rocky, rocky, rocky in between a rock and what else?
What else?
Speaker 2Our place?
As they say, thanks so much, thanks for showing up.
Speaker 4Right, andsightful.
Speaker 2Morgan is really young, you know, yeah, and I think that you know youth.
You know, we have to give youth some credit here, and I will.
Speaker 4Say thirties, early thirties?
Speaker 2Is it early thirties?
Okay, well I don't know.
I don't know, really, Deanna.
Speaker 4Pulling, I knew until you said really, and then I was like, well, you know, okay, if only we.
Speaker 3Had the knowledge of the entire world that our fingers hits, I'll go ahead and check into this.
Speaker 5Thank you.
Speaker 2Someone needs to do it.
So I think, you know, if if she is thirty, well I guess I'll have to take back my point.
But I will also just go ahead and say she was ignorant to what the reality world has to offer, much like you said, Deanna, when you enter this world, it's unforgiving, it's savage, it will take you down.
Okay, Jamie, do you have the answer.
Speaker 3Well, unfortunately for me, I thought this was the name Morgan Waller is someone else?
Speaker 5So what is her last name?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 4Morgan Morgan Freeman from Housewives.
Speaker 5Okay, yeah, she was like, why was that in my head?
And oh no, it's getting worse, Sonya.
Morgan is sixty one.
Years old.
Speaker 1At the Morgan less Yeah, Jesus, while we're looking, I do also want to say, like, Kyle has four children, Kyle's older than her.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4A lot, and she was in a beloved relationship.
I think Morgan was like, oh, this chick is coming for me, and she's she's hot, and she's loaded, and then you know, and she's giving me one hundred percent attention.
Speaker 2And then then it woreated, Yeah, complicated in a war off.
And I think that Morgan probably used this as an excuse to jump because Lily pad a Lily Pool full circle, whoa you know, this is what is this?
Speaker 3Internet says twenty nine or thirty years old and the h so they don't have her exact age, which shows she's not yet a huge public figure.
And and you know, she's thirty, her mom's probably fifty, Kyle's fifty six.
Speaker 5You know, it's like, yeah, you know, maybe that's the age problem.
Speaker 2So I you know, I think that like most people do, they get tired of the situation, you know, and they need a way out.
And I think that Morgan probably found it thrilling that this real housewife, she didn't know that world was, you know, slid into her DMS.
She found it very fascinating.
It all makes so much sense, and they were in different positions, you know.
I mean if you think about it, like what if you know Morgan wants to at some point settle down to have kids.
Is Kyle going to want to do that?
You know?
You know, these are the things well think about, Like Ashley, I am you know, You're like, yeah, You're like, that's actually all I'm doing.
That's the conversation.
Speaker 7We're in it at a time and I'm firing it off right you are, and I'm going, Wow, Amy, that's actually like I didn't think of that, and that is a blind spot, Like why didn't I you know what I mean.
Speaker 2So, so we haven't really talked about we haven't given it that much time until Kyle was able to say to us, I love this person, and this person couldn't handle the limelight and everything it brought to it because I lived my life out loud and I couldn't do it because this person wouldn't allow me.
I get it.
I think that it was smart of Kyle to not expose her and not betray her.
I think that I would have done the same thing.
Of course, Erica wouldn't either.
We all know Erica wouldn't based on her past.
I mean when Kyle puts forth the question and she's like, I.
Speaker 6Mean, when you love somebody and you know, you know, and I asked you to protect them and you don't want to betray them, and do you protect them and lit everybody or do you just protect them?
And Eric is like, yes, protect them.
Well us it's.
Speaker 2Like, yeah, we know, we know you were married to Tom Girardi, you know clearly.
But I would have done this, of course you do.
And I do feel bad for Kyle because this whole time, people are like, give us your blood, you know what I mean, tell us everything, and and really she whisp between her rocket and her place.
She really couldn't.
She loved Morgan, she loved her, She was willing to go the distance the distance on it, and Morgan at the end of the day wasn't.
And I feel sad for Kyle.
But also maybe Kyle would have gotten tired of this too, because she self admitted this.
She was in a vulnerable spot, like many people do when they get out of a very long relationship, they move on and they have a what do they call those relationships.
Speaker 3A.
Speaker 2Rebound, rebound, lily Pad rebound.
Speaker 4The thing that was a danced around but wasn't locked in on.
Is that Kyle, I believe.
You know, we know she's a producer on the show, and so she and she's an og so she gets to do that that other castmates would not be able to really do.
I feel like that she would have grilled other castmates, especially like, you know, a newbie, you're not going to be able to not talk about your relationship.
So that's the the part where we're irritated, you know.
Speaker 2Yeah, And yet I did feel like throughout it, there were these were stages for all of us.
You know, at first, we're just upset, upset, mad mad mad because at first it was really her choice to not come out and tell us.
I don't think it was Morgan's choice at first.
I think it was Kyle's choice at first.
Then it shifted into now Morgan doesn't want to be a part of this, you see what I'm saying.
So when Kyle was ready to bring this to the show, Morgan was not.
And so that sucks for Kyle because she finally was able to get beyond us not having a problem with her being with a different gender.
That's all I'm saying.
And I think that's great.
She obviously really grew in that time and she was ready to share it with us.
And then now it's over.
Speaker 5Morgan slammed the door.
Speaker 3Well, you know, and again now that we know, you know, we're talking about a thirty year old and a fifty six.
That's hard.
It's just a lot of hard things.
It's a public public viewing.
But Kyle, you hit the nail on the head.
If it was another person on the show, Kyle would be the number one griller.
She'd be the George Foreman of the situation.
Speaker 4Okay, yeah, yeah, she'd get that nice you'd get some nice marks on that, you know.
Speaker 5Yeah, she gets some nice seer on the stake.
Speaker 3And now she's like it's she's kind of blaming the show where I'm I hate to be bringing up the age, but that's a wide age difference.
There could be other problems there is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5It might not just be the show.
Speaker 2Maybe maybe, and maybe Morgan is saying it's just the show and not being honest about what it actually is.
Speaker 5Be honest.
Speaker 2It under the Oaks on the on the porch, She did say that a lot.
She's like, I've always been knowing.
I'm honest, I'm honest.
Speaker 5For me, I was loving it.
I was like, but she you have a video, you did a video, you did Amy as as Kyle.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, and I can't remember what the video was.
Speaker 2Yeah, I got going there.
Yeah, because she is honest and that really but but but that's where we have to look, as you know, as fans, are we forgiving of people if they're really going through something where they don't want to share that their their sexuality is changing, or their preferences.
I think that that's fine.
I have no problem with giving a person the respect to not share every single thing she's shared since day one.
So for me, like this whole thing with Morgan, though it was frustrating at times because Morgan was on the show and they did this video and stuff that was annoying that she didn't just say it then.
But you can't force somebody to do something that they're not comfortable with.
And she's had plenty of time on the show where she shared a shit ton of stuff.
So can you give her a buye for that?
Speaker 4Here's the thing that we're gonna throw in is that Kyle, all that you just said was true.
And she slipped this Morgan, this hot little number, this cute face with her tattooed body and her little twang at us because she was getting back at Mo.
Please let's not let that off the hook, like she wanted to show I can pull a hot piece of young female ass.
Speaker 2To babe, nice nice, nice, nice babe.
Oh god, which is why she showed up.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, all of that.
Speaker 3You know, she's trying to put forth this like we're going to divorce friendly and he is just out in these streets having the best time of his life.
It hurts.
It hurts to watch.
Even that hurts me to watch.
And I'm not even in their marriage.
Speaker 2I don't even know how she does it.
Like maybe the Morgan thing is what helped set her back to neutral in order to like face him and be okay, because she was like, I got mine too, bitch, just like you're saying, Diana, that is such a great point not to say she did it all for you know, glory of love.
You went, I.
Speaker 5Get really excited.
Speaker 2No, you went with biscuit.
I went, like Peter Satra, I did it all for the glory of love.
I went like karate Kid, I don't know, like that's where I went.
Speaker 4Yeah, that was a hit.
That was a jam.
Speaker 2It was a hit.
But listen, they both were they both do I smell mash up?
Okay, Meredith Mark's DJ I'll put it in my next SAT.
Speaker 5It's engaging.
Speaker 2So when she goes to Moe's new house, you know, did did you remember that?
Remember like last season when she was like I heard you only have one towel.
That was like a fucking year ago, and now we're bringing him a towel.
I was like, babe, you guys are getting sloppy over there.
Okay, producers, we watched last season.
We're not forgetting Okay, any conversation that they're having that was weird.
It's like, Okay, Kyle, so you're gonna show up, you're gonna bring that towel.
You're gonna bring some more towels because you noticed that he didn't have a lot of towels, So get in there with your towels.
You could never talk about it, but like this is there's so much that we're not knowing about the inner workings of their relationship, and it is really fascinating.
I wish we could know everything, but we're just we're just never gonna know.
And that's okay because they have their lives.
But the fact that, like she's saying, when he left that rented condo or wherever he was penthouse and moved into this house without telling her when she found out that that meant it's the end of any reconciliation as we know it.
Like him moving in there meant we're not gonna there's no way to keep trying.
And I was like, that's one way to say it, okay, Like, but it's not.
It is.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's it's strange that the that the show is setting this narrative like, well, the house decides it.
Speaker 5She's so, you know, the house is the reason.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's in real estate, you know.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Look, I think she's to protect his interest by making it like, oh, it's the house so he doesn't lose his business and get like PK is a villain.
Speaker 5He doesn't want MO to be the villain.
Speaker 2Although she's trying to help p K out from not being a full villain.
Can't wait to talk about that too, But let's let's wrap up this the Kyle and most stuff.
It's wild that they're together, and that they're talking and they hug.
It's amazing to me.
I can't believe it.
Personally, I am not a strong person like that.
I do not have a strong constitution when it comes to emotions and moving through things and getting on to the other side.
Jamie, you are, I am not.
I could not do what she's doing, could you, Deanna?
Speaker 4I all I know.
I don't know the answer to that.
But what I do know is that when he's laughing with that dumb ass gouffa, I literally think fel murderous, Like I'm like, my hands are wrapping around your neck like that goofy laugh.
I find so disrespectful.
Forget about the house.
Speaker 5Yep, keep your laugh out of my ears.
Speaker 2I have that note.
Yeah, Kyle says she's single, and Moe laughs because he's he's like laughing at her like a like a fan that hates Kyle Richards.
You know what I mean, Like, you're single, now you can date.
You haven't been single, ha ha ha.
We all know you haven't been single.
That's what it seemed like to me.
Speaker 4No, he's for the street, says Jamie said, like he's garbage.
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Speaker 3And I think that they they have crafted this like we're gonna be best friends through this thing for the girls.
But the girls are old as hell, so you know we'll see it's it's you know, he's he's gonna it's gonna end up where she she's gonna win in the end, and he is going to be that old man that's like at the dinner with his really annoying eighth wife kind of a vibe, and he'll be at her Thanksgiving table though they're they're coming out with this, we're we're friends.
We're gonna always be family.
I believe it.
I don't think it's for the show, that's for sure.
I think she has been through a lot in her life and she doesn't want a bad divorce.
Speaker 5And you know who's just like that sister Kim, remember Monty or whatever?
Her her you know what I mean.
Speaker 3I think his name is Monty, but her sister Kim that she's like, he's my husband.
He lives in my guest house.
You know what I'm saying.
It's like that kind of mind.
Speaker 2These well, the one who passed away was Monty, so I think it was him.
Speaker 5Yeah, and he was took care of him as he was their divorce, right.
Speaker 2These Richard sisters are made of something that only can be you know, infused in you in Beverly Hills.
I guess, I don't know, like growing up.
Speaker 4Yeah, they Kathy you.
She raised them weird.
Speaker 2Yeah, raise them weird.
You know that's what I say.
Speaker 5You're great.
I was raised weird, and look how interesting I am.
Speaker 2I was raised I mean I'm weird, real weird.
Wait, let's so while we're on this, let's wrap up.
We're good with the Kyle most us.
We should move on.
Okay, let's talk about Deret and the breakdown That was wild.
That was heartbreaking on every level.
I felt it in my bones, much like we all felt it with Kyle.
Like it is.
Her situation is so real, and her feeling the pain of her son and the pangs of his parents getting divorced is so heartbreaking it makes you want to just break down and cry.
And it's not, I don't want to say, refreshing, but it is somewhat comforting to see how Durit is feeling at all and is taking on the weight of that because she's a good mom and she loves her kids.
That's what is the highlight for me is seeing how much she loves her kids and knowing that there is a problem here that she wants to love them up and support them in any way that she can.
And when her parents flew in like that, what a great testament to the love and support that she has in her family.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 3I agree, I love her parents, and I think that it was really vulnerable of her to go there, and I feel heartbroken for Jagger and also fuck p K.
He is not a good dad and he doesn't really care.
I agree one hundred percent that it's like, I'll go to Florida too, That is just a move.
Yeah, she's a good mom and her parents were so cute too.
Love her, love her, I feel for her, my heart.
Speaker 2The ladies I thought did a great job with giving her advice an unbelievable job.
That's why you can't be alone when you're going through something.
You need to be around people, and you need to vent like that so that people can see something that you can't see, which is let him go down there, let him do what he says he's going to do, because he's going to fail.
He's not going to stay down there.
When Rachel Joe, when Rachel Zoe said he's gonna go to Sancho Pei, like he'll be there for forty eight hours and he's leaving on outline like that was brilliant because these fucking women have been through it with these douche bag men, and the advice was amazing.
I did feel Kyle was a little roadkill in that, but Kyle, you gotta know when not to say, Peek, not a bad guy when she's going through this babe, step off, like not the time, not the place.
Ay yea Yi, What did you think, Dad?
No?
Speaker 4I thought that was really insane that she said that.
And while the sentiment she was bringing forward was similar to the other women, the delivery was so completely different and like, of course that's going to that bumped us.
Of course it's going to bump to read like it was a shitty thing to say.
And you cannot attempt to have PK side.
Speaker 2You know, make it look like you have PK side, because I don't think she necessarily has even PK's high side.
I think what she's was trying to do was to say there's maybe a reason behind it.
And here's what I was thinking too.
After later, a lawyer probably told p K you cannot let her take those kids out of the state without your consent.
You cannot let this happen.
You better go there, or you better block this trip.
So he tried to block it because crazy shit happens in divorces, crazy shit happens in custody, and just like we, you don't know the person until you get a divorce.
That lawyer's probably telling him.
You know, no, absolutely not, because he's trying to protect the best interests of Really, I think at the end of the day, I hate to say it, but the kids, because you know, you don't want to get them in a sticky situation.
So I think that that was probably part of it.
And maybe that's what Kyle was trying to say in a roundabout way, but honestly, it didn't matter.
It's like, you can't just have a knee jerk reaction on advice in this situation when she's so highly emotional.
Speaker 3Sometimes you can't play devil's advocate and everybody on earth needs to learn this, including me.
My brain sometimes does that just to do it like, well, don't forget this side, not that at that party, not now.
And I agree with you, Amy one hundred percent.
Feels like a lawyer move.
And I think a lot of these people who are are they think these lawyers are their best friend, and they're like, well, Gary said, we should block that, and it's like, you better use your brain.
You're hurting your kid and p K, you are showing up.
He is showing up like such an ass in this again and again and again, and Kyle, zip it.
We don't need devil's advocate right now, zip your mouth and shut your mouth.
Shut those beautiful fish lips you've cultivated over fifty six years to the rest.
Speaker 2Yeah, when Dury was really driving the point home to Kyle, it made more sense.
I'm kind of glad that Dori was able to get that out.
So what you're saying is you want I don't want to even do an impression of her in this moment because it's so tragic, but I liked the got to hear the actual like logistics of the words that would need to come out of her mouth.
You need to go.
You're crying your eyes out because you don't want to go with your dad, but I'm sorry, you need to go and you need to stay with him whether you like it or not, which makes her the bad guy.
And the fact that these ladies are like, no, no, no, let him be the bad guy.
Just say your dead, send him to their parents, to your parents, Let p K go and tell the kids like he might show up, and let him be the bad guy.
What unbelievable advice it saved her like that, That to me was just yeah, it was so brilliant, And Kyle was like, oh, shit, I should have shown that and like kind of like love with their tail, but you're in the leg.
But yeah, that's gonna be so bad for their relationship because I don't know if Kyle's going to be able to see where she went wrong.
I really don't.
I'm not sure yet.
Yeah I agree, but she's wrong.
Speaker 5You know, I have a question.
Speaker 3Does k have children from a previous relationship.
Speaker 2I believe he does.
They're much older.
Speaker 3He's going to be a sucky five like, he's not dost Settles.
He's not going to do anything for the He's he's going to be out there, he's going to be in England.
He's gonna leave these kids.
He's just show you know, he's just trying.
I agree with the read.
He's trying to hurt her.
He's trying to say face and he's I agree with what you're saying.
He's trying to go with what his lawyer's advising me.
I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 5Brilliant.
Speaker 3That's why we tune in, Yeah, drama darling, because I had you thought about that, So thank you.
But I think that p K is going to He's gonna disappear as time goes on.
Speaker 2Yeah, give it time.
Speaker 4It also does seem like to read I feel I don't know if you guys feel this way, but she was very confused about p K and their relationship, and so this seems like the first time she's dropping in to who he is.
What the dynamic was the fact that, like when she wasn't a complete sycophant, Like what was the name they called each other.
Speaker 2Bype it bipe?
I think it was bipe.
Speaker 5Yeah, I care babe.
Speaker 4Oh god, I felt like it was like pooky.
Speaker 2But that's maybe maybe there's something.
Speaker 4Else whatever it was, maybe it's just babe, but like she never got any sort of perspective.
I feel like on him before this moment.
Speaker 2You know, this conversation of her saying like, now he's saying, he's telling me what to do through our business manager, get a new business manager, get a lawyer.
I'm not paying for this.
Now you're paying for this.
And I was thinking, Yeah, you're getting divorced and it's over.
You've lived this life where you spent spent, spent, spent spent, and now it's over.
Speaker 4And I also think she protected like we he also I think has thrown them to the wolves.
Financially in general, so she may all who knows what's gonna come out now that she's not on his side, like those people running up to him on the beach, you owe me millions.
I mean this is a.
Speaker 5Robbery.
Speaker 4Robbery potentially's allegedly criminal.
Speaker 2You know.
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3That that Dury absolutely is the roses off the vine.
He is a pos and she's stuck with him for the rest of her life, because, gentle listener, you've got to be careful who you have kids with.
Speaker 2Like it's yeah, it's like she had a veil of delusion since the day she met him.
So now this is all lifting because she's realizing the reality of actual life, which is she did have a career, she did all this stuff, right, but then once they were married, it's like she had kids, She's spending a ton of money.
She's this like Beverly Hill's wife, right, And now she's on this show and all of a sudden it gets away from her and what's left And now he's like, it's done, bipe, it's done.
All right, it's done.
Bye.
So here we are, and now she's going, I don't she's getting socked in in the middle of the eyes, like, how is this happening.
It's a real shocker for her and it's hard to watch.
And when she said, you know, he's doing this to me while I'm trying to raise these kids and I'm in fight or flight mode, it's it's the most honest thing she said.
And to see that breakdown was incredibly honest.
And I hope that like she can come out of this with like a lot to offer other women in similar situations.
To see this in front of our eyes is a wild thing to see.
Speaker 3She will, and anyone watching it should be thinking to themselves, maybe I should get the pre number, Maybe I should keep track of finances, or you know what I mean, maybe I should think about having kids with this man, might write dozens and dozens of watchers fake, Yeah, you know it's possible.
Plus, how cute was she getting ready for that boho party.
I loved her little outfit, those little shoes in her.
Speaker 2Boot when she was talking to her parents.
You know, her and Kyle were about as stripped down as they could be in this episode.
You know, do you know where you.
Speaker 5Would say something?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 4I mean, I think there's also the element to the to the Housewives, which We've seen in every single franchise where you marry someone a little bit older, they have more money, and you are going to age out.
There's a reality to it.
Very few of these women are going you just the men are eventually going to trade you in because that is what you're doing.
You're choosing someone for a lifestyle primarily, and that has an expiration date.
Speaker 2You're right.
And that's so interesting because I remember Jari talking about how when they first met and her parents were concerned about her marrying him because he did have some financial problems.
Remember that he had all these lawsuits before they got married, and she was like bankruptcis or whatever, and so she was like willing to.
I think she probably saw he was obviously doing better, boy George, you know all the whole thing obviously.
Speaker 5So really, boy Jordan really really guided her.
Speaker 2Where's he now?
Speaker 3She's ink kiy Divorcian.
Speaker 2All right, Well, we can rab a bow around that, but I do want to mention that, you know, when we can circle back.
But the end shot of this episode with the nude model floating face up, sunny side up in that pool, with the Martini smiling, was the greatest little button on a show ever and.
Speaker 5Yeah, really good.
Yeah, I mean we're not done with it yet.
Speaker 3We got more to say, but wow, really beautiful, beautiful aesthetics.
Speaker 2Beautiful aesthetics.
So all right, Well, we had Jennifer Tilly's party at her house, which you know, when she was.
Speaker 6Like, I never had a party here, and I thought about.
Speaker 2It, I was like thinking, oh, it's gonna be like maybe twenty people.
It was just like the Five Ladies.
It's like that's it.
It was like such a big deal for her.
Yeah, funny.
Speaker 3I love that.
I love her so much.
And I loved her party, two party planners, everything set up.
I loved the durings.
It was all so fun.
What a great party.
I love Jennifer Tilly every time she shows up as a breath of fresh cuteness.
Speaker 4Yeah, and her testimonials are so funny.
I'm laughing out loud.
Lexitimately hilarious, you know, which you don't always get, like legitimately hard hitting lll.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, I will say.
Speaker 4I watched it with my husband and when the reveal of the naked men came, he was like, he tipped the hat in that we have not seen that on these franchises yet.
He was kind of like, why has it taking people this long to bring some male nudes?
Like it's a great issue, Just like like, good on you, Jennifer.
That's a good one.
You know, like we haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 2I swear we've seen it, and I swear Sonya was involved.
So I'm not sure, but I could just be google it.
Speaker 5Lunch of rives in half an hour.
Yeah, I don't remember that.
Speaker 2You're right, you might be either way.
It's been a long time.
And I hear what he's saying.
We have this new gal, right, We've got Amanda.
Who is this new lady in town who is like known as the.
Speaker 5Rich Queen, the money queen.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, the money queen.
Speaker 4I've gotten audible last night, okay, and I will be listening to it.
Speaker 2I want to listen to was like, let me see.
Speaker 4This book, let me see these reviews.
Got to say the reviews were fabulous.
I said, I have one one audible credit sitting over there.
Let me She's okay about your one audible You're like a housewife right now, the way you're bragging.
Listen, I just this is the place to do it.
Speaker 2Yeah, you got it.
You have to.
Speaker 3When I was watching the minute it started, and then she showed up I buy myself, I'm my iPad.
Speaker 5I go, who the fuck is that?
Speaker 2Did you know that there was going to be like a new gal?
Speaker 5You didn't?
Speaker 2Oh you didn't?
Okay, okay, slip me.
Speaker 5It must have slipped me.
And then I loved it.
Speaker 3And then I was like, but she only on this because she bought Miles House.
Speaker 5What the hell here?
Speaker 2That was crazy?
I remember when they were busting up those floors and everyone was going nuts.
So I never put it together that that was her, and then now she's on the show.
That is so nuts.
Speaker 5The best edit of the show is right here.
You you both must know, right, the best edit of the episode.
Okay, no, what when she goes I was raised, I was born in nineteen eighty five, and the cut of Rachel's over, Rachel goes and goes.
Speaker 2Her mouth dropped, and Jennifer Tilly's like, what what I sell?
Speaker 5What was Jennifer talking about sel sandwiches out of a hammer front order of I know we're like nineteen twenty.
Speaker 2Well, she's just got a numbers.
Speaker 4She's older than you, but she's older than you think she's like I think she's like well, now let's I know, you do a quickie, all right.
Speaker 2While you're doing a quickie.
Yeah, now we've got this.
When she walked in, I loved well to Gary's or Jerry's, I'm not sure because I've never shopped there before where you get the expensive china and all the things for your wedding to register.
Alexia, you know I was doing that.
I love that.
Kyle's like, we're going to do this together and I'm bringing Sutton and this new housewife.
Alexi's like, bye.
Speaker 5So I gotta go look at Nicknack.
I was like the producer sent her ways.
Speaker 3When I thought Amy, I thought that that was like an Alexia.
Now you leave with some excuse, and she's like, I'm gonna go look at taskeys on floor seven.
Speaker 5Like it was weird.
Speaker 2It was totally weird.
So when she walks in and they give like the ding ding ding, the prices of their birkins, I loved it.
Fourteen thirty and thirty two.
Love that moment.
And then hearing about Amanda and her manifestation and her husband manifested her on this Santa Monica Boulevard and all this stuff.
It was quite a story.
I'm looking forward to getting to know her because when they were when she was interacting with Bows and it was something about they were getting to know each other, and she said, I have four kids, and she was like, well, two are from my husband's previous marriage.
And Bos is like, oh, so they're not your kids, and she's like, I raise them.
And I thought, well, which didn't you like?
Speaker 5I didn't.
Speaker 3That was my first ding honestly on bos of ever since I've met Bose.
Speaker 2Oh okay, right, that's what I say.
I didn't like that either, And I don't like that no, and I have.
Speaker 3I had a very very close relationship my stepfather who passed, and I have a very close relationship with my stepmother.
And when I introduced my stepmom and my dad to people, I go, these are my parents.
Speaker 5And I think that it was a.
Speaker 3Little bit blase of Bose to just say that, because I bet she's going to get a lot of backlash from people in the audience because you don't get to say, like, she goes, no, one better call my daughter their daughter.
Speaker 5Don't do that.
It's not nice.
Speaker 2It depends on the situation, of course, too, because you've got you know, there probably are some parents who are step or whatever, and then they're they're saying like, oh, these are my kids, and they don't show up and they don't parent, and they don't love and all this stuff.
So there's that aspect of it.
But I think it was very smart of Amanda to say immediately and not hold back and not be like, I can't believe she said this, say I raise them, you know, like they're my own.
These are my kids, you know, And it goes to show that she clearly is present in their life at least that's what we're trusting.
So I, yeah, I did not like that.
I thought it was like a rude thing to say upon meeting somebody.
I thought, wow, that's one hell of a thing to say.
Speaker 5It's very.
Speaker 4Yeah, it's a dumb it's dumb because I do think she said that they're her step kids.
Didn't she use the word step kids in her explanation.
Speaker 2She said, I have four kids, and they go, oh my gosh, She's like, two are my from my husband's you know.
Speaker 4Okay, so but she said to or froend, so she said the truth of it.
She didn't like not say that.
That's why I thought it was so weird because if she just left it at that and didn't clarify, that's where you go, Oh, that's kind of weird to not you know, I don't know, I could see having you follow up and Jennifer Chilly sixty seven, Oh wow.
Speaker 3Sixty seven.
I thought I found that one was easier.
I thought one was easier to find that.
How old is Morgan Wallen, wild Ward, Morgan.
Speaker 2Sonia, Morgan Wade?
Just yeah, there we go.
Speaker 5But I looked up Morgan Wallen.
Speaker 3Who was that singer that walked up Morgan Wale?
And so in my mind, I, oh, yeah, whatever I looked s and now remember he goes yeah to get the God's Country.
Speaker 2Also, also, here's the other thing that Erica did that was like uncalled for, but I think she honestly did it just to cause some sort of a storyline.
When Amanda's like, do you have any mocktails or like, and Erica is like, boo, you should drink.
I mean, it's like she doesn't give two ships.
Erica is like, I better make a paycheck.
I better cause some sort of something.
You know.
So we'll see what happens between the two of them.
But uh, yeah, I'm excited to see who this Amanda is.
There's gonna be some is major issue with her in the in the future, and.
Speaker 4She seems very unlikable, but like, I, yes.
Speaker 3Absolutely, might I just say how much I am loving Rachel Zoe and I agree with whoever said she joined the show entirely to cause Roger as much embarrassment as possible.
Speaker 5And that's the episode two girl.
Speaker 2Okay, here's the thing when she was talking about how he was dating this girl and got paparazzi pictures taken of him, and like what are you doing?
Like are you okay?
Like what are you doing?
We have like we have business, Like what are you are you?
So Deanna sent me the photo of the paparazzi by the way, real quick, you're right, Jamie.
She went on the show to drag him because when she said to Bo's, Boz's like wait, well, She's like, oh yeah, it was like all over the tabloids, but nobody cared.
I was like, betch yes, bet no one did care.
No one cared, and she put it right there for us to see in a silver platter.
So, Dianna sent me the picture of this gal and their pictures together, and then you told me what Dianna about this lady.
Speaker 4Well, I let my fingers do the walk in and I found out that she and this is a blow.
Is a blow we're all going to have to sit with.
And it's why again she is on the show at this time.
This girl breeds.
Jacobi is a stylist.
Speaker 3Oh ouch, that is bad and mostly for is it's for men.
Speaker 2She's a stylist.
Speaker 4Mostly Well, the way her platform discusses what her deal is, it's just so odd.
It's like I lift up the man and style.
I'm paraphrasing, but like it's a very bizarre.
But you know, yeah, she is styling men so they can reach their greatest good you know what's happening.
Speaker 2But yeah, by the way, the paparazzi photo that you sent.
Speaker 3Me, which, by the way, can I get on these very hurt Yeah, several different threads and now you just with amy.
Speaker 4Out you know what I considered it, But I thought maybe this would be a nice reveal for you, Jamie.
Speaker 3You should be a lawyer.
You should be lawyers.
The way you just spun that.
Speaker 2Here's the picture and this is what I want to say about it.
Okay, okay, when someone hangs their arm around your neck in the way that he is.
It really bothers me.
That body language of slinging your like you got someone by the neck.
You know that to me is like an immature like I'm out of control.
I need to control something in my life.
I'm gonna grab this thing.
Speaker 4Wow, Amy, you know is.
Speaker 5So precarious, Amy as is yours.
We have.
Speaker 2Don't do this to me, don't do that.
Speaker 5I might have to say something controversial.
He looked great.
I love his style in that from the hat to the bag.
He looks handsome and cute.
Is out.
It's good.
Speaker 4Can you show can you show Jamie the other one with the titties out?
Speaker 2Oh yeah, okay, she's still harboring some resentment here.
Speaker 5She looks insane.
Speaker 2That's a bad I don't like that outfit at all at all.
Speaker 5Nice watch on Roger though.
Speaker 4Looks cute, he looks happy.
Let's be honest, Rachel.
Zoe grinded that guy's beans down, you know what I.
Speaker 2Mean, like like grind her beans.
Speaker 4But don't you think for the first half of their life she she was.
I mean, I mean you sat.
Speaker 2There, I sat there, you saw it.
I remember him saying in past a past episode or maybe I don't know.
Interview on The Rachel's Project, he said this about her when I met Rachel, Like, you know, she was a beach girl.
She just loved to hang.
She was so casual, she was so laid back.
He was like, I never thought she'd like amount to anything, and yet here she is.
Fuck that you and look at her.
Speaker 3No, he's I mean you saw then the clips.
He's he and I think you're right, Deanna.
She ground him down.
He was he was He was practically a burkean himself.
Speaker 5Yes, just carried him around like a bag.
Speaker 4Well, I think if she said purposes a burken if she ground him down, that's that's only because by default he was hanging on to her fucking coattails, and so he had nowhere to go but be around her.
Speaker 2Do your own thing.
Then you won't be ground down.
You know, you were just around and so since you were around you you got ground.
You got ground.
You did it off of the glory of love.
Speaker 4Us at church.
Thank you, get us sorted.
Speaker 2We're gonna leave it there.
There's nothing else to say.
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