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It is Wednesday, December tenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, episode number ninety one.

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Today we got the crew in minus miss Garcia.

She is out today.

Actually she's gonna be out the rest of the week.

So this is gonna be us, man.

Actually it's just two of us by Friday, because Brian won't be here Friday.

On his birthday.

Of course he's gonna be out on us.

So boy there, I'm gonna stress you out on for It's gonna be.

Me and you on Friday.

Well, no, no, no, no, we have a special guest that will be joining us on Nick Eatman, so a little bit of.

Three of us.

But let me just tell you this.

You can't stress me out.

I've been I've been through the fire man.

You can't.

You can't stress I start cussing, I start saying.

I got a producer back there that can cut your mic quick quick.

I'm not worried about that.

I'm not worried about that.

You're not gonna stress.

We've got fun.

We've got fun, and we'll miss you, Brian, but thank you, we'll have fun.

Appreciate that.

Thank you.

I'm sorry.

I'll be out that day.

And man, you got on your ls.

You getyeah excited about your new coach.

We talked about that we outspend, we'll go tigers.

I gotten pretty good at this one.

Yeah, yeah, you know, well we've we we're gonna do things so the right way to LSU gonna we're gonna try and know you know what, I don't know, coach.

Coach might hire me back.

I don't know, you know what.

That's pretty good, man.

I'll do him on radio.

Like every once in a while, somebody will say something about coach, and I'll well, you know, Dawson, you don't know much about the football team.

You you act like you know the football team, but you you don't know.

You don't.

I don't know the football team.

I know I know all about those tacos, pretty good, man.

There's nothing better than winning the championship and getting bought out and just going to live your life.

And man, in the swamp of something must be not after the championship, then you get your breath.

And then later they call you back and like, hey, you want to come, you want to come confense?

Man, Hey, I love that one.

Oh chilling, but I love that one.

Yeah.

It's uh college football though.

I hate to say this though, and and here I am.

I mean real quick, we're guilty of this l s you.

We'll spend money and we'll we'll go after your players and all that.

That's what this coach is about to do.

But man, we this this this system.

Just listen.

And then the UH driving in talking about Sam Levitt, the quarterback at arizonam State and how you know he you know, two years of Arizon State.

They have this you know, the positive and next thing you know, it's Arizona State can't pay him, so now he has to go somewhere else where in a system I think is broken.

I'm all about paying players, I really am.

I just worry about the levels of loyalty and all that.

And there's no loyalties with the coaches either to the way that they go off and do things.

So it's difficult.

And we all love college football.

We all love college football, and uh but man, we're getting to a point in time now where I don't I don't recognize this and I'm worried about the future of it.

And I think the future of it, there actually will be some super conference and then the teams that if you went to a school that's not in the super Conference, then you know, you might be not enjoying football as much.

You know.

That's what I hate.

I just I think, at the end of the day, if you're gonna if you're gonna put limits on players with regards to their more movement, because I think right now it is the wild Wild West is basically free agency every year.

If you're going to limit that, then you gotta do the same for coaches.

It can't be one system for coaches.

Once I'm glad you did it.

Like, no, no, I agree.

It can't be one system for coaches and one system for players.

Yeah, if they're gonna if everybody's gonna abide by a contract, then everybody needs to abide by a con I'd.

Love to see.

I'd love to see, like from a coaching standpoint, and I promise you we'll get to the Cowboys here in a second, but I'd love to see from the I'd love to see from a player perspective, from maybe a program, whether it's Texas, Southern, miss Lsue wherever, that to me that you have either a one year deal or a three year deal.

You sign this.

If you tell me you're only going to be here for a one year, then I know I can plan to do what I have to do.

If you make a commitment to me for one year, I can live with that.

You make a commitment to me for three years, then I'm like, okay, well then hey, let's work it out this way and stuff.

There has to be something I think that people are talking about.

Maybe you might see a deal where college football players or college athletes unionize and then you have collective bargaining ways and things like that.

It's you know, it's that would be We've seen how that could be a little bit of a mess or maybe some positive things.

But that might be the best way to get it to a point where it actually makes sense, because then you can actually say, Okay, here's a contract and for this amount of time, this team owns your rights.

Now, I don't know how they make coaches by by their contracts, I would assume it could be the same thing where for this amount of time, the team owns your rights, and if you want to go to another team, you have to that team has to negotiate for your rights to be there.

Absolutely, and then it becomes something that's a little more equitable.

But I just really think you're gonna have to do something both sides of that, if you're gonna if you're gonna put some limits on it.

I asked Brian today, what we got to do to get our guy flora is over here?

Brian floor is this is the league hasn't got none to do with college football, but we just talking about coaches moving around.

I was like, man, in week what fifteen?

Yeah, fourteen fifteen?

What I got to do right now to give Brian Floory is over That's I wish I'm talking about that, we can talk about him.

I wish the league worked it this way.

I will talk about him.

I wish that we had an av leg director and then Jerry be like, hey man, we're gonna fire somebody in week two and we're gonna have an interim defensive Damn sorry, if you have the interiom somebody coach, and then we'll bring in somebody.

News in NFL, I'm telling you, we just saw love college football.

Really, we love it, and I'm I'm happy the players are getting paid.

But man, this thing is it's getting way way out of hand with the movement of it all.

Well, I would love to see the day come when you have a super conferences.

I think that will solve a lot of problems.

Well, if you have two.

Honestly, the way I look at it is you take the SEC, take the Big Ten, expand both those leagues out to include all the teams from all those other conferences that are worth being in that grouping, and that's basically your two conferences.

That's your NFC and your AFC.

You got one of them, you know, the one that's kind of the Big Ten, and everybody else there and then you got the SEC and everybody else there, and then you go at it, and I think that.

Would be a great way to do it.

And then the two that come out of those two conferences end up in the College play College Chace.

Well, I tell you what, I'll be coming to Myron, and I know we have a lot of people here that are North Texas grits.

You know what they've done over there in Dent and all that.

I admire.

I admire the programs that have the athletic directors that can evaluate coaches.

Because every year North Texas gets picked by their basketball coach leaves, goes.

To a better situation, they find another one, their.

Coach, their their football coach goes and leaves every year.

Give me the guy or the gal that can run an athletic department that knows how to evaluate the coaches and talent.

And that that's why to me, those people are so valuable, so valuable programs, no doubt.

All right, let's talk a little cowboys.

What I wanted to do in our first segment today is I wanted to talk a little bit about special teams.

This is the topic we haven't talked a lot about.

We've talked about some of the challenges.

I think earlier this week we talked about that because it was so apparent in this last game.

But I don't know.

We've talked about it from the standpoint of their return game, and I've heard there's more and more of this kind of this rumbling from Cowboys nation of and we're just not getting the same level of big plays in the return game that we've become accustomed to seeing.

And so my question for you guys, if you agree that that's happening this year, do you think it's a result of the unit, the coach or the returner?

Can I can I go first there, Vach before thank you appreciate that.

I think you have a returner now that looks at himself as a starting wide receiver or that type of a player that I don't see.

I don't see the same.

And listen, the blocking hasn't been outstanding, but you don't see that when you talk about Turpin and how he won that game for you in Washington last year with his ability to go out and to make the plays you know that he was able to make, you know, it was just incredible.

His ability to attack, to put pressure.

I thought when they had this new kickoff rule that every time Dallas snapped the ball, it was going to be at the their forty eight yard line, much like you saw in the Detroit game.

I think you got a player now that kind of sees him as a receiver.

And I don't see the same kind of the attacking thisess.

I don't see the vision.

I don't see the hit the hole.

I don't see the quickness, the burst, the pressure that you put on or that he at one time put on opponents.

And yeah, I mentioned they haven't been blocking it particularly well, but we've seen teams take advantage of even ordinary returners look superhuman.

And you know Dallas has struggled with that.

They've struggled with coverage.

And but your returner doesn't look like the all pro guy that he was maybe two three years ago.

Can I real quick?

Let me I want to ask you a question about what that looks like.

Is that he doesn't have the same burst, doesn't have the same urgency.

He's not seeing it well, because when I hear you say that, he's like he's he's seeing himself more as a receiver.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time with figuring out how that means he's actually not a good.

Return or.

He doesn't want to.

He doesn't want to injure himself.

That's what you're going His way of making his way of making a living now is is that he's an eleven personnel player, you know, And do I want to put myself in harm's way to keep me from not being an eleven personnel player.

That's that's his elevation of going in And I don't fault the guy.

He's now getting more offensive reps, you know.

And so if he's getting more offensive reps, what does that mean, Oh, we don't look at him anymore as a kick returner.

We look look at him as an offensive player.

So when we start to talk about contracts going forward and things like that, he's got to maximize that.

I think he's trying to do his very best to maximize his his receiving game or receiving part of his game, as to like, he's okay with Okay, I'm going to be a returner, but I'm also this is what it's in in in connection to him being a receiver.

That's that's kind of how I look at it.

It doesn't look like the same player returning the ball.

It seems like he's trying to take less risks.

So I'm witch on that, Brian.

But I think what we see from a lot of these returns, how they thrive in these situations, is just going, yeah, just just go like you know whatever you got Billless to do that, whatever the look was at one time, and turpn one thirty, you know, one hundred and thirty whatever he is.

But now I see Turping trying to set up blocks and he's kind of joggy a little bit, and he does have the ability to like go and hit top speed immediately.

But maybe it'll be better for him, and this may be a mental thing, maybe it'll be better for him if he just fearlessly goes.

Now, that cat for the Lions last week, he's he's much bigger.

He seems to be like a like a like a thicker bill so he was ready to just run into whoever the hell he was about to run into.

I don't think Turping particularly likes to run into people.

Like when he's gotten hurt.

It's been him getting like hit on, like kicking team like not like hurt, hurt, hurt, but like he'll take a big hit and get up and go woo.

I'm one fifty, so I'm hoping that he's not gotten some fear out of out of getting thumped on kick return, because you really need that dude to to help your offense.

Like this offense gets backed up a lot, and you know the offense is good enough to work itself out of it.

But this offense will probably put more points on the board earlier in some of these games if they had some favorable field position.

I would say this though, I think he's always had that same return style of kind of the job, job, oh go, because I remember even last year when he was having some of those bigger returns.

I sit beside Nick in the press box and it would drive him crazy.

He's like run run, oh oh yeah, he turned into something.

So I don't think that that's a change in how he does it.

I just don't think it's working this year.

And maybe he's gonna have to alter that a little bit and just take it and go.

And because he may not have the same level of blocking to really set up blocks because guys aren't getting blocks.

But the fact of the matter is, like I think that's been a part of his game going back last year and the year before when he was returning kicks.

That's my opinion, And.

If that's gonna be the case, then Turpin needs to not run directly into blockers and defenders like that's that's another thing there.

If that's running, he is running into darkness quite a bit.

He's running right into it more than we've used to seeing him for Yeah, yeah.

Maybe not seeing it well, maybe not.

I mean, there's all these things that are kind of factoring in.

But there was a time where I felt like he had a really good feel for how to set things up.

If it was if it's you know, it's start left or turn right, you know, if it was press left and to get everybody over and then and then bounce that thing.

We haven't seen that.

It has been kind of go left, stay left, and get tackled on the twenty six yard line.

And that's what it's been.

That's what also makes me wonder.

I don't know this for a fact, but it makes me wonder if it's more about the unit because before he trusted, he trusted that that darkness that he's running into right now, what's going to open up right at the right time and he was going to be through it.

And now he's running and it doesn't open up, and so it looks like he's running into darkness when really he was trying to trust what was supposed to be there and.

It's just not there.

Yeah, it ain't worrying.

It's not working.

It's not working, And I'm gonna have to figure that part out because I think there's some some some challenges from overall standpoint right now.

Is there anything that they can do with their special teams, because we've talked about the coverage units, We've talked about their return unit today.

Is there anything they can do in season to be able to affect that, you.

Know, as a bone hitted offensive.

Dude, I really don't study teams in that way, Derek Gigs, but if I had to guess, if I had to guess, you know, I don't know how much the rule changes applied, you know, like like maybe like we get a new rule change and they have a conversation about things.

But I want to know what was Bones kind of saying to him, versus what its Sorenson saying to him, you know, versus whoever whoever?

Right?

I wonder like, is this a coaching aspect where they're saying Okay, well, we want you to look at it this way because maybe if you start this way and do that, it'll open up kind of like this run game kind of works in that way, like, hey, this is your lane.

But look there.

Maybe Turp is doing more more thinking as opposed to just I'm just running and being fastened everybody, but made a lot of money just being faster than everybody.

So I would love for him to cut out the thinking aspect and just fly.

Yeah.

I think that there's some things you could absolutely do about it, but the problem is you can't do it during the season, right, That's right?

What can you right now?

Now?

Let's let's be honest about Mingo, Let's be honest about Tolbert, Let's be honest about about Schoonmaker.

Let's be honest about you know, guys that are out there playing.

I mean, let's be out there honest about C.

J.

Goodwin, who is on this roster right now, is a special teams player.

You could go through the whole defense.

You can look at the Hey, Shamar James doing his job.

That's a rookie guy.

Is uh you know what's going on with Marquise Bell?

Is he doing his job?

You know there there are guys in place that they have that they're these backup guys that are having to play, you know, on special teams.

But that's your job.

I mean, you do not have a badass guy.

C.

J.

Goodwin is supposed to be your designated special teams player.

I can tell you times running down there and you know, diving at tackles, diving at tackles, missing tackles.

I could tell you about a kickoff return where he's what they call l one, He's the farthest guy on the outside, and what they do is kick him.

They kick him outside and now they run the ball up inside.

If you're the designated special teams player, that's supposed to be the guy that everybody knows and is like respects as a leader and all that stuff like that, we'll go make some plays.

Go get a block.

I mean, how many times have we seen Dallas not get a block?

Or how many it's a hold on eighty six on Schoonmaker, it's a hold on fifty schamar James, how many times have we seen that where all of a sudden the ball gets out to maybe the thirty five and now it's inside the eighteen.

Because you guys didn't do their jobs.

Yeah, they need to look at overall the type of players that they're now because Schamar James, it's really not an excuse for him anymore.

He's not playing a lot of defensive snaps him, Maris Leafol.

Those guys aren't playing a lot of defensive snaps.

I see Marrius Leafoul run around there and bang around and knock into people and stuff like that, and I'm cool with that.

Hunter lipke See is kind of the same thing.

But overall they need to get better as a unit when it comes to their ability to block and give give this guy a chance to run.

Right, We're gonna take our first break.

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We're going to dive into the Minnesota office versus the Dallas defense.

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All right, let's talk about the Minnesota off that say some you know our contest winner.

Uh Nick, that's gonna be in.

You're sweet.

He's in the comments right now.

Nick se says, Hey, Voch, I'm the guy who won the tickets last week's love to you.

Uh am, I gonna meet you this Sunday.

I don't know, is he I'm asking you?

Why you're asking me because I don't I don't know.

I don't control your movement.

I'm I supposed to know if you're gonna be in.

You don't control my movements, but you make a decision that will make me make a decision.

The decision I don't know, but your contest want tell me what this is.

I don't know what would will do our best to come by and see?

How about that?

You know you're gonna be there.

That's saying you're gonna be my best to come.

You know I'm gonna go by.

Because you have an employer that that that that that puts you in that place.

Brian Broh, do you feel what I'm saying?

So when Nick says, hey, voch, am I gonna get a chance to see you, Derek, is he gonna.

I don't know, it's calling you out for not getting a credential?

Is he gonna be able to credential?

You need a credential?

What that means?

It means you have a credential to go to the game.

I know what that means.

But like, so do I get the real joint or like, see, thats what I'm saying.

That's what I'm gonna be.

I'll be sitting in the press.

I want to be in the suite and I don't want to get tackled by security.

Then that's what you should have said from the vier.

I want to shake hands with post malone and your uh in your private spe That's what Harris Crawford.

That's what.

That's what you should have SNI gonna.

Be there too.

You ain't hearing.

We ain't gonna be that now.

You're gonna have to catch me on one of these other meet and Greece Blind.

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We'll talk about it later.

Let's talk about the Vikings.

It's talk about the.

K They are five and eight right now, grab the wheel, wi yeah, he will they are.

They are driving right off the road.

You're right.

They are fourth in the NFC North.

They're coached by Kevin Kevin O'Connell, who is a really, really good coach.

They are right now.

When you talk about the points that they've scored, they're averaging about nineteen point six points per game.

They are twenty six in the NFL in that category.

But here's the interesting part.

Last week they lost I'm sorry, they beat Washington thirty one and nothing a beat down.

The week before that they lost the Seattle twenty six.

And during the season they've also beaten playoff caliber teams like Chicago and Detroit.

Who is this team?

It sounds like they're a bad team that on a given Sunday can be pretty good.

Mister Eagleton, we're gonna talk about the Vikings offense today, and that ain't the reason.

But Cowboy fans know this more now than anything.

A defense can either keep you in the game or to keep you out of it.

Yea, regardless of what your offense looks like.

If we look at Filly and how they operate, you know, I would love I get so jealous the quarterback through five interscesss or something, and then your defense go out there and get another one on herb it or get a fumble on herb and get the ball.

Right back to you.

I think the Vikings defense kind of operates in that way.

The Vikings offense ain't good.

It ain't good, but just because they're not good doesn't mean that they won't have a good day versus Cowboys defense.

I'm just talking about Vikings versus everybody else.

The Vikings haven't been doing great things on offense, but it's not like they're getting smoked in these games because their defense isn't giving up all the points in the world.

They're decent versus the run, but they're really good versus the past, and you know, for example, you say a playoff team like the Bears, Kayler Williams is still a young quarterback, so Flora is a dial some up pressure wise and do some good things cover wise.

That'll make things weird for Caleb.

So you could be a better team.

But styles may, fights, matchups matter so to where blitzing may not affect dacking that way, but it'll affect another quarterback like Jared Goff who's not gonna run around that much, or Kayler Williams who will run but won't look downfield.

So the Vikings don't get blown out at all, but they don't put up points either.

Yeah, I think to me, when you look at their offense though, it really is about the quarterback play.

You know, they've had starts where you know, JJ McCarthy he heard his knee last year, so it's his rookie year was really you know, nonexistent, so this is like his first year and you kind of feel like though that there's you know, coming out of Michigan, like, Okay, this guy's tough, he's savvy, he's a winner, you know, he's a leader, all these things, but you watch him, he makes the rookie mistakes as a quarterback.

He will, you know, he will see him in the pocket.

Sometimes Fots likes to say he'll sack himself by his movement.

He gets a little jittery in the pocket.

There's only one other team in the league that throws the ball down the field more than the Vikings.

And and but the Vikings struggle with completions down the field.

They throw it.

They try and get the ball down the field.

They will, they will throw the ball.

But that actually scares me against this defense.

It is it is.

And you think about this though, but you know, and this is where the eye tests will tell you.

They're like, God, he missed another guy miss I mean, I'm watching a game.

I'm watching a game against the Commanders with the last week against the Commanders, and Hockinson the tight end, and Addison and these guys are running, you know.

They this team doesn't run a lot of inbreaking routes.

A lot of their balls are to the outside, so they're not running in breaking routes.

But all of a sudden, Hawkinson's wide open, Addison wide open, and this quarterback just can't get him the ball.

So that's the really the biggest issue right now.

And their offensive line I think is a is a decent one.

I think when you start to talk about Christian Derisil, he's the guy that's probably the most recognizable on this offensive line.

But as a left tackle, you know, he's had his struggles.

He's had his struggles with injuries.

There's a team, it's a team that really particularly doesn't handle the movement stuff up front very well.

You see the problems with some of the guards, some of the stunts that weigh they're past.

You've seen some problems with some of the blitzes.

You know, teams have kind of taken advantage of this quarterback and like they've got his eye level down and he's having to deal with that.

So he watched the sacks.

It's it's been a little bit of a problem for them.

But you get don't get ready.

The ball will go down the field, and you know with Justin Jefferson, I mean he will go down the field, and Addison he will go down the field.

It's going to be about can you know Dallas is this quarterback.

Can they get enough pressure on him on on the on McCarthy to make that eye level come down and then him hold the ball and not see some of those routes that have developed down the field.

My favorite favorite stat for JJ McCarthy and it's probably like thirty nine quarterbacks qualifying for it, but my favorite stat.

He's starting, but he's the worst in the league at throwing to wide open targets.

Yeah, he's the worst in That's like saying you're a linebacker and just don't tackle very well basically right, like the layups.

Yeah, the thing that you just have to be able to do if you're gonna play this correct.

And you say that Dak is the best.

Right back ship right around ninety one percent open targets, and you're McCarthy's right around seventy one to seventy two.

So he's the worst in the league.

He's see the wide open people throwing it and missing it.

But that's the that's kind of the story here.

Like justin Jefferson Mad wasn't that coming out of college?

He's a guy when you watch it think it was all that good.

Yeah, when you when you watch them in Michigan though, I mean you did see a guy that their offensive line really did a nice shot.

They were physical running the football, you.

Know, they were running team.

Yeah, they were they were very much a They were very much a like that that team that was you know, that horrorball mentality of how you play.

Yep, that's what they were at Michigan.

And you know, like I said, I I think the thing that I liked about him the most was how competitive he was.

It's I mean, super and you see it, you see it.

I mean, he is a guy when he runs, when he scrambles, you need to kind of be worried about scrambling around guy.

But he is a go ahead first guy.

He's like trying to get the first down.

He's not a slide guy.

He is a diving to try and get the first down.

So I've always admired his toughness though, but it is it is wild to watch him miss throws at the rate he does.

But this is this Cowboys defense where dreams come true, and so this will be the one day where he'll be uh, he'll be as accurate as possible.

He was he was, so he did a good job.

Got the ball out against the Commanders a lot quicker than they than they had in the other games.

Have a note for that, Derek.

You go ahead.

You know, if you watch the Washington Football Wizards, team.

They gave them wide receivers, a lot of space.

There was a lot of cushion by ten yards of it.

Play some zone, and we talk about Dann and them boys.

You know they normally man up on guys a little bit, but for whatever reason, in that game, they played a lot of zone.

They gave a lot of cushion.

Cowboys play a lot of zone and a lot flows.

Hey, man, I know you're watching.

You probably ain't fooling me right in our flues, but just watch that Commander's game.

And you are an NFL defense coordinator, so I know you've seen the Commander's game.

Please don't make that same mistake because it'll be real embarrassing.

If you give Justin Jefferson and Jordan Nassen free releases, it ain't gonna look good.

You already don't have a corner that can like match up with them guys like man for man in that kind of way.

But man might be your your better out than to just let them run free.

I think your best bet is to disrupt the timing.

We talked about this from last week and Jared Goff and them they're much better at it.

But you don't want to get embarrassed by this group who's not better at it, and you be the one defense that makes them look good at it.

Please disrupt timing on these routes.

Please don't let Jefferson and nas and go off the line scrimmage easily, because the Washington team did.

And no matter how good we look at their front seven, you know, with you know Newton and all those guys and Louvu and Pain and all those that didn't matter because the window was wilde over before him to throw.

And J.

J.

McCarthy's not a not a good password for the football.

He has nine touchdowns all year.

He threw three touchdowns last week.

You see what I'm saying, Flues, Don't don't.

Let that be you.

Let me ask you this question.

What I'm what I'm hearing from you guys, is he's the worst in the league at hitting wide open targets.

Yes, if that's the case, then why wouldn't you go into this game thinking, Okay, let's force him to hit wide open targets consistently to move the ball down the field in which case, and but don't let him get the big play, And that would say you run more zone.

That's all man, that's a fantastic point.

But like worse in the league at throwing wide open, it's still seventy five percent.

So for every four pass, is that three goals?

And you know you, I still don't even want to want to play that game.

I still don't want to mess around because he's terrible.

But Cowboys defense make terrible people look good.

Cowboys as honest, Cowboys defense finds a way to make terrible people look good.

Now that also, let's be clear, sure that was the first iteration of this defense.

I don't know that the second iteration of this defense has made back quarterbacks so good.

They've only had one shot at it, Las Vegas Jail.

They shut him down.

Jalen Hurst put up a lot of points in one quarter.

Jail.

Hur's terrible until they made the adjustment.

I mean, look at what Pat Mahomes has been doing lately versus what he did versus you know what I mean, Pat played his best game versus you for sure, and and I think you know Jared GoF of course they went out there and went crazy, but that's what they do.

I think that's hoping.

You're hoping that what happened last week was just the lines being so fantastic on offense, we were on the.

The biggest difference right now is and you could take your pick, would you rather have Williams and Saint Brown or would you rather have Jefferson and our guy Addison Madison.

You know, that's what you got to ask yourself, because I think it's a really good combination.

The biggest difference of this game is the quarterback's accuracy.

That's those receivers are comparable.

That's a complable.

Like you you could get people to say, well, of the pair of Addison and Jefferson, what you take him them are Browner or Williams?

Saint Brown or Williams.

See, that's that's the thing about it is you've got to I've got to find ways.

Early in that game against the Lions, you affected the way he threw the ball.

You just got away from that.

I don't think you can make the same mistake.

You need to stay on this guy the whole game.

And you say and go back to that, like as I hate to be this guy, but I would rather die a quick death in a slow one.

Don't don't don't let me, don't let on third downs all of a sudden, this quarterback McCarthy getting a little rhythm and all of a sudden get a little confidence.

He's playing well.

With the offense you got, you actually can't sustain that because if they get a quick one, your offense can also go down and get a quick one.

Too, because honestly, you know you don't have top tier corners.

Let's just be clear, but you've played top tier receivers all year.

You've played the best receivers in the league all year.

It just depends on what your coordinator doing.

I think you'll do fine versus group and justin Jefferson's fantastic, having a bad year because of the passer saying with Addison.

Addison seems to be more of the deep ball guys, right, and then Jefferson or whatever, and they just be missing, but they be throwing them.

But this is all about Fluce and how he's approaching it.

If this was some elite Cowboys defense, I wouldn't say a good thing at all about the Vikings offense.

It just happens in context of Cowboys defense.

They can give you a long day if you love.

Real quick too, Derek, the way they run the ball, I know you'll probably ask about that is because they play with a full back.

This is a team that kind of plays with They'll play in I formation, okam, yeah, old school football I formation.

A lot of play action in the game here.

But you know, when you start to talk about these backs, Aaron Jones and then also Jordan Mason, the way that they run the ball, it's like it's inside.

It's inside, and then it's a stretch to the ad, stretch the edge and they try and get around the corner.

Not a lot of wiggle.

You know.

This is one of those teams too.

You got to worry about the screen game.

One of the top three in the league when it comes to screen.

We talk about it every week.

What did Detroit try and do early in that game?

Throw the screen, throw the swings.

You saw how those kind of affect the Cowboys.

The Cowboys don't particularly handle passes in the flat very well.

I guarantee you Minnesota is going to try and get either a wide receiver screen or one of these screens a swing to their backs and and see if they can do some good.

Because teams all year long have really taken you to task of having to play in the flat.

Do you expect this to be a week because of their their run game.

Do you expect this to be a week where they tend to do a little bit more of the five man front stuff.

Man, I would hope.

I would hope.

I don't really and it would be it would be good.

I think to listen, the run fits against the Lions were really poor, really poor.

I know, watch and I broke that down, you know, on our channel, and it was you know, we you know, watch it a great job of pointing it out, Like you got guys like why is Oosa flying into the A gap and there's nobody in the B and where's the C?

And against Kansas City you kind of saw the fits.

I think with this group, it's not the quality of the backs that you faced the last several weeks.

It's kind of that try and wear you down offense.

So yeah, you know, but if you play bad run fits like you did against Detroit, you're gonna have some problems.

I mean, it's just it's just that's what Dallas is.

It doesn't matter who's carrying the ball.

If you're bat on your run fits, then then they're going to be issues.

U asked, was this a good week to run out the five man fronts more.

Last week was a good time.

To run the five man.

I was kind of you only did that, and you only did it eleven times?

First, so much worse offensive line like that?

That Lion's offensive line was so compromising.

You saw early in the game.

Well, when me and Brian did our film session, I'm messing petty, So I put the down and distance up there, you know what I'm saying.

So while good things are happening, I'm circling like, hey, y'all, this is all in the first drives of the game.

Bad things happening.

This is all second quartering on.

I don't know what I would love to ask them.

I need to go to one of the coordinated joints and just and just get get kicked out of there.

But I would just love to ask them, what what what made you be successful in those first few drives, and like, what made you go away from that?

What made you go away from If Flues want me to shut up next week, do what you did in the first drive last week, first couple of drives, first couple of quarter, do it all.

Do it.

Do it the rest of the year, and I'll shut up and apologize.

The Flues but he won't do that.

Will you shut up and apologize the flu?

I will shut up and apologize the flues.

But flues won't show me consistency every time I come up here.

Every time he gonna take every time I come up here.

And look, I told you I asked about that playing Spike coverage and that was the last still I think that was week three.

Left already all we're gonna tak our final break, will come back.

I got a couple of players on the defense.

I want to ask you guys about specifically how they're playing over the last couple to be back.

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All right, we got final segment.

We only got about five minutes left.

But I did have a couple of names I want to throw at you guys, and I want you tell me your thoughts as I throw.

These names out.

Let's start with Kenny Clark.

What are your thoughts on him?

Right now?

Man?

Kenny doing all right?

You know, I think I think teams are going to continue to adjusting.

You got to keep adjusting.

I think one thing Green Bay did really well with Clark when he was there.

Man, you will see Kenny play a gap, then you'll see him play some four eyed, and you'll see see him play some some wide, you know what I mean.

And Kenny's athletic enough to do it.

He's strong enough to play anywhere.

I think sometimes, you know, with with you know, with his role, he gets stuck in one play sometimes and I don't want that for him.

Solomon Thomas is another guy like that.

He's really good all over the place, but he's kind of stuck in at one spot.

And I think it's easy for teams to make adjustments when these guys are in the same spot every time.

If there's the next adjustment that I would love from whoever's in charge of the next adjustment is you have these guys on the on the D line, move him around a little bit.

Jerry on the radio and kind of alluded to it.

And when Jerry make makes small whispers, it's really something that somebody talk to him about.

He said, Man, we're good enough.

We got enough guys.

OLSA can probably get a little wider sometimes.

I would love to see what that looks like, especially when you versus these teams that will probably beat you on the run game physically.

But Kenny Clark as an edge guy where it would be Dante Fowler, Ben run the other two guys at the one in the three and play your your four man front, your down fronts and just have a bigger edge do.

I think that'd be great.

But as far as what Kenny's doing right now, since Quentnin got here, Kenny's been just as good as he was when he first got here.

I would have loved to see that last week.

That would have been a good week, those big guys lined up out there.

I'm just but yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I kind of feel like that with Kenny.

You know, it's the season's kind of taking its toll.

On him a little bit, you know, and and he early in the year of those campaigns.

I mean, you get would you get Quentin Williams in the week eleven or something like that.

It's been a four week run or so that we've seen with quinnin Williams and him, and he's done a great job.

I mean, nobody's gotten more pressures at the defensive tackles, but I think he's like twenty twenty one percent pressure rate, which is better than what like an Aaron Donald has even done from the defensive tackle spot.

So that shows you in that small time period, I think that's helped.

I think that's helped Kenny.

But there's there's been some times where, you know, Kenny has got to be careful about how how tall he plays in games.

There's there's times when he rushes the passer, you see him kind of get locked up.

He gets double teamed.

That's a hard thing to have to beat double teams, you know.

I mean the teams are having to kind of determine do you double Quinn and Williams?

Do you double?

You know, Kenny Clark, who do you double on this?

He faced so many double teams early and I think he's a little bit worre down now.

I don't think he has that that power, that punch that he had, you know, early in the season, and hopefully he can, you know with now the way that these games, you know, with these games coming so quick and so many days, these guys get a little bit worre down, and I think that was kind of happening to him.

Maybe this a little bit of a break, this ten day break and getting back on a normal schedule and letting his body kind of heal somewhat get it a little bit for this final push.

He'll be okay.

Hopefully that's the case.

If not, though, like I say, he's been steady.

He was much better earlier.

But I think it's kind of the wear and tarry getting to him.

Donovan does a Roku thoughts.

Man, he's so good as a run dude now, like he has such a feel as a run due his pass rush stuff isn't there like it was early in the season.

It could be because Quinn getting there quick.

I don't know, but just as a rundown guy, I'm surprised at the level of read and react on him, more like the instincts on him.

He doesn't get caught up on these blocks, and maybe I'm super surprised to him because of what his peers are doing.

You know, you look at the you know some of the other cowboy edgses.

I ain't got say anybody in particularly, but sometimes they get lasted on block.

Sometimes they run a field and look around.

Sometimes they don't, you know, do the small technique things.

Donvinezroku's a guy coming out of Boston College that I thought was a day one pass rusher, year three, good run dude, shock the hell out of me, year one, real good run dude, year one, and the pass rush stuff is still going to be there when.

Of you his splits are completely opposite of what I thought, and I think vach nailed it perfectly there.

I expected him to come in and the learning curve of the pass or will be really, really small.

You know, not to say that he hasn't had moments, but I felt like that he was going to be a guy that was constantly harassing quarterbacks.

So you do see some pressures, you do, But where you've noticed him Moore is actually playing as a run defender.

So that's where and that that not that he was a good run defender.

Boston College, but not to this level.

Now he's your best guy.

Not to the point, yeah, he is one of your best when it comes to you were kind of thinking about, you know, and you know, we were talking about Marshaw Kneelan and Marshaw k Neelan being a guy when you know that he was he was kind of the the Tank Lawrence guy.

So I think the way you look at Donovanezarako, he looks more like the Tank Lawrence guy now for you uh, you know, and not just because of the tragedy, but he's kind of playing in that way.

He looks like he has pastorish ability plus the plus plus run defense.

All right, that's right, we'll be back tomorrow.

We stretched that clack I had a lot more, but actually we'll get to those another day.

We will tomorrow get into the Minnesota defense versus Cowboys offense.

That'll be a challenge for the Cowboys, but we'll see how it goes till them for watching, some body Brian brought us.

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