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Today's show will be a rebroadcast of the McCullough Foundation press conference held on November 20th, 2025 in response to the CDC announcement on November 19th, 2025, where the CDSC has walked back to its prior statements that vaccines do not cause autism.

In fact, they state now that those statements were not based on evidence-based medicine.

This is all in response to the McCullough Foundation report on the determinants of autism that was released October 27th, 2020.

We'll break it all down for you.

This is huge.

The McCullough Foundation clearly has influenced public policy at the CDC.

It's not as if Robert F.

Kennedy and the CDC interim director have gotten around to this in October of 2025.

They clearly were prompted, motivated, and I think read our report.

They received our report immediately when it was released.

It was sent to them by email with a cover letter.

And we anticipate the McCullough Report had a great influence in this sweeping change in public policy.

This is such welcome news by so many mothers and fathers suffering with children that have autism, where the parents believe a big bundle of vaccines, in fact, was part of the reason why they developed autism to begin with.

Indeed, they were right.

McCullough Foundation uh findings indicate that.

Indeed, it's all come out on the CDC.

Now, the CDC has done this quietly with no press release, no fanfare.

And at the time of this production, Robert F.

Kennedy said uh in a side interview that in fact he ordered the changes.

Well, of course he would.

He's the HHS director, at least has to uh um approve them at this level.

But it's a stunning change.

We give credit to so many in the activist group who worked so hard over time to raise awareness to the issue.

It's all paid off.

Uh, and so I think you're really gonna be um impressed with this press relief.

Press release, you'll hear Nicholas Holcher, epidemiologist of McCullough Foundation.

Yours truly, Dr.

Peter McCullough, president of the foundation, and then historian and best-selling author, John Lee, who is the vice president of the McCullough Foundation.

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Peter McCullough, president of McCullough Foundation and John Leake, Vice President of the McCullough Foundation, and we're going to talk all about this, what it means, and why it happened.

So, John, do you want to take it away?

Yeah, I think that our starting point, and I think all of us can agree on this.

It really began during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The extremely aggressive rollout of this new uh genetic technology, the so-called messenger RNA gene therapy shots with Pfizer and Moderna being the two much touted candidates.

And we perceived that this is so aggressive, this is so fanatic, they're just fanatical.

There just doesn't seem to be any kind of cautionary principles being applied to this.

And what we observed is the great um heresy that we are having to contend with in terms of accusations, it is that anything that promotes vaccine hesitation.

And I think Dr.

McCullough, you you got a huge dose of this, and your efforts to to find early treatment modalities.

You think you're just helping your patients, but you're immediately sort of slammed and smeared and sued and the rest of it.

And I I remember when you began to think um the heresy that I am apparently guilty of is promoting vaccine hesitation.

And so we've got into this arena.

What is vaccine hesitation?

It is has been deemed by our public health authorities to be the great anathema to public health.

Vaccine hesitancy could be any idea, any notion, any perception that causes someone to hesitate to get a shot.

So we began looking at this strange world through the lens of the COVID-19 vaccine rollout.

But then the further we got into it, the more we began to think, well, this isn't just the COVID-19 vaccines.

It seems to be the entire vaccine enterprise going back 300 years.

So we ended up writing a book about this vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality.

It was a New York Times bestseller in August, but parallel to writing the book, and Dr.

McCullough, I'll let you talk about this.

Um, a very thoughtful observant philanthropist said, um, hey guys, um, have y'all thought about really looking deeply into a full review of just what in the devil is causing this explosive rise of autism.

And Doctor, you were the one that originally started kind of pacing this endeavor.

Together.

So maybe you could tell us, you know, what were your thoughts as we got into this study?

Sure.

Well, thank you, John.

I'm Dr.

Peter McCullough, President of the McCullough Foundation, and it certainly is a big day for our foundation.

You know, when I was a kid, autism was one in 10,000.

The CDC estimates as of 2022 is one in 31, 3.2% of the entire nation's childhood population carries this diagnosis.

And there's related diagnoses.

There's over 10% have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

There are percents that have ticks and seizures.

All of these markedly on the rise since 1986 when the uh vaccine injury compensation act legislation was put in place, which provided immunity to liability lawsuits for the vaccine manufacturers.

And we saw a proliferation of vaccines under the schedule.

Children were taking more and more of these.

And when we looked back at our health and human services, which, according to this legislation, John should be giving uh biannual reports to Congress on vaccine safety, they haven't delivered a single report.

So the concern is the autism epidemic really has gotten into full swing.

And now I see autistic individuals in my practice routinely.

We see them out in everyday life.

Uh, this has now become a mainstay diagnosis.

27% of those affected children have profound autism.

That is, they very markedly low IQ, they can't communicate, uh, nonverbal or screaming, headbanging behaviors, unable to use the toilet uh themselves alone, lifelong disability.

So uh as we saw this evolving, we saw it and obtained independent funding, and we uh set out to do a systematic review.

It hadn't been done actually in many, many years.

And we came up with our findings that we uh presented by a press release as well as put on the European uh commission preprint server on October 27th, 2025.

So this is really recent.

Uh Nick, why don't you take us through the statements that the CDC has relied upon that they put on the website?

Uh take us through what the CDC said the party line was up until the McCullough Foundation report.

Yeah, so before the CDC on their own web page literally had this page we're looking at right here, but they said without a doubt that vaccines do not cause autism.

So they basically had a indefensible fraudulent claim that was not supported by any evidence.

And so that was there for many, many, many years until yesterday, when they decided to finally reverse course and act upon the actual totality of evidence.

And so now on the CDC autism and vaccines website, they have three key points.

One is they say the claim vaccines do not cause autism is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism.

And then they went on to say studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities.

And so both of those are true.

And we demonstrate this without a doubt in our McCullough Foundation autism report, where it is literally just a small narrow band of vaccines that have ever been studied for autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders.

It's really only been the MMR to a small extent hepatitis B.

And so, yeah, they cannot make that claim.

They simply cannot.

And so studies supporting the link have been ignored.

Well, yeah, we identified 107 studies that infer a possible association with vaccines and autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders.

They never once brought those up, never once mentioned those.

And if if you look on the right side of this figure here on the screen, you'll see all of the major reports that have come out since the 90s.

First, it was the Institute of Medicine, where they say the evidence is inadequate to accept or reject the causal relationship between vaccines and autism, right?

So they've said there's they they can't rule out a link, even in these major reports that are widely cited as so-called debunking a link.

And then you move on to the HHS Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, they had two reports, one in 2014, one in 2021.

And in both of these, they conclude that there's again, there was no evidence to reject a causal relationship between vaccines and autism.

And so they've each of these times there was no ability to claim vaccines do not cause autism.

And now, at the bottom, you'll see in 2025, the McCullough Foundation report, determinants of autism spectrum disorder puts without a doubt that vaccination is indeed the most significant modifiable risk factor for autism.

So, Nick, the the CDC was relying on the Institute of Medicine as well as AHRQ in their uh release on the internet yesterday, November 19th, 2025.

And uh yeah, I think the important point, John, is that you know, we have this gap from 2021 up to 2025.

And and what's happened in that gap is you know, this examination now of far beyond the COVID-19 vaccines, the entire vaccine enterprise.

So, what have we learned?

Well, what we've learned is that, for example, this long-standing assertion, vaccines don't cause autism.

This has been repeated ad nauseum like a mantra on television, Sanjay Gupta has uh been fond of repeating this again and again um on his uh CNN medical show.

Um the the most remarkable feature of this assertion that is made without evidence is that it's also made with the acknowledgement.

I actually have a recording of Dr.

Goobs' saying, um, we don't know what causes autism.

We just know that it's not caused by vaccines.

Now, I I think, and I would argue that that that is a fallacy.

If you don't know what causes it, how precisely have you gone about ruling out the possibility that vaccines are at least a causal factor?

And I I want to mention um the the way in which in our world of of mass media and electronic representations of reality, I think there is a long documented history of powerful institutions and commercial interests simply making assertions.

It's it's as though it's an article of faith.

It's it's as though it's a religious institution that has simply handed down an orthodoxy without any underlying evidence or explanation of how this conclusion or this assertion came about.

And if if that assertion is made enough times and enough media, then it just sort of becomes in the minds of the public and in a perceived incontrovertible truth.

So what we've done is we've we've gone back, and I think to our surprise, I think you gentlemen would agree with me.

Um I mean, the the evidence is actually there.

It's it's in dozens of studies.

Uh, you know, that the whole exercise reminded me um of the observation of a famous linguistic philosopher named Ludwig Wittgenstein, who pointed out that in a lot of these intellectual controversies, the answers are already there.

The solutions are already there.

We don't need new information.

We just need to examine in an impartial way the information that is already at hand.

And that's what we've done with with our report.

And um, it's very gratifying to see that just three weeks later, um, the CDC is acknowledging or recognizing uh the basic findings of our report.

Well, certainly the CDC, HHS, all the officials were sent our report on October 27, 2025.

I was in communication with Senator Ron Johnson, and uh, you know, clearly there had been thought leaders in this field for decades who had these suspicions.

There's been about three dozen books written about vaccines and autism.

Uh, but but like the prior Institute of Medicine and AHRQ reports, almost certainly the CDC has responded to independent scholarship and an independent scientific report with the conclusions of the McCullough Foundation report on autism.

Now, Nick, among the 29 studies that were neutral that failed to find the association between vaccination and autism.

What was wrong with these studies?

Why were they?

Not reliable.

And why is that a house of cards that's crumbling now for the vaccine industry?

Yeah, we completely expose those studies and why they cannot be reliably used to actually determine true risk of autism because not one of them had an actual truly unvaccinated control group.

Not one.

They may have claimed it was an unvaccinated control group, but actually, especially with the Danish data set, um, there was actually about you know 50, 60 percent of these children were actually vaccinated.

And so you you know, you cannot properly assess risk if you're if your comparator group has also received the exposure, and so there was that, and then they had what's called misclassification bias.

So they didn't verify the vaccine cards, they didn't verify the autism in the children with physical exams, and so it was all based on these ICD codes, and you know, you could keep going down the list of flaws they had there.

A lot of the times they employed um certain statistical tricks to lower their associations, and then uh later reanalyses of the same data sets, particularly uh Anderson and colleagues that looked at aluminum recently um in the supplement supplementary data sets, you there actually are increased risks of neurodevelopmental disorders that the authors simply do not report on.

And so, and then so it was all that bias and then bias of the publishing cartel that doesn't publish this data and academic bias, where um researchers are afraid to lose their jobs if they publish these types of studies.

So there's probably many of these studies laying around somewhere in people's drawers, but they never published them because they're afraid of losing their career.

So all those studies were highly flawed.

But one thing I want to bring up, and this is important is the 12 studies that did have an actual unvaccinated control group, all 12 of them found that the unvaccinated were far healthier in every single domain, far less chronic disease, far less autism, most importantly, far less neurodevelopmental disorders of all types, including ADHD ticks, speech delays, speech disorders, and less asthma, autoimmune disease, skin disorders, ear infections, everything you could think of.

And so it was quite undeniable.

Well, you know, I I certainly think that many have contributed to this field, and recent books have been very helpful.

So John mentioned our book, New York Times bestseller, vaccines, mythology, and ideology and reality, which which give this context, and we do take it right up into the point of uh, you know, the court of claims and the case of Hannah Pauling and the father, Jonathan Pauling.

Uh John, what's the impact of these vignettes, these clinical case series where we were carefully told in an individual child what's happened?

Well, I think I think the most remarkable study or I should say case study or vignette, um, is not only in in terms of its clinical presentation, but also the way in which the United States government responded to it.

It is this very remarkable case of HANA polling.

Um, her father, John Pauling was a neurologist at Johns Hopkins University Hospital, um, a distinguished neurologist, and it just so happened that his young daughter HANA um went and received a large battery of vaccines.

Um, it is the classic case that we've seen uh um duplicated many times over with other parents and their children, but in this case it's remarkable because the father who is observing this in real time is himself a neurologist.

So HANA goes, she gets a big battery of vaccines, she develops a fever, um inconsolable crying, uh, a kind of uh syndrome of different acute symptoms, the initial symptoms resolve, at which point she regresses into this uncommunicative, withdrawn um impaired state, which was shortly thereafter diagnosed is autism.

So Dr.

Poling and his colleague, a man named Um Dr.

I believe it's Andrew Simmer, I believe is his name, they do a study, a case study on this, it's published, it's peer-reviewed, and then a very strange thing happens during this so-called autism omnibus proceeding in the U.S.

Federal Court of Claims, you have a kind of classing together of about 5,000 different claims of autism, and Dr.

Polling is just one of them.

And I think it's very important if you want to understand how this whole story has been handled, or I would say mishandled in the public forum, what you see is once it becomes evident to the U.S.

Justice Department uh defendants in this case that one of the claimants in the autism omnibus proceeding is Dr.

Poling, who's not just any parent.

He's a Johns Hopkins Medical Center neurologist, what we now know is that the uh the um US Department of Justice uh um defending attorneys, they then take Dr.

Polling and his wife aside, and they say, look, we're gonna acknowledge that in your case the vaccines did cause HANA's autism, but you know, we would prefer that this be done as a separate acknowledgement that in order, in other words, we remove you from the autism omnibus proceedings.

Now, if you look at the way this unfolded, it's obviously unfair and fraudulent to the rest of the cases in the omnibus proceeding because what the court then says is based on the cases, the test cases we've evaluated, you know, not including uh HANA polling, you know, we've concluded there is no link between childhood vaccination and autism.

So we've we've taken the HANA polling case, it's just one of many, but it's a very significant example of first showing it is evidence of the link between childhood vaccination and autism, but it's also a very dark and disturbing example of the way the United States government has handled this, and the deeper we got into it, and I I would like to mention another dimension of this that pertains to our co-author um Andrew Wakefield.

You know, I I had heard the lore of Andrew Wakefield, uh a British gastroenterologist who um had just been characterized as is a kind of persona non-grata in British medicine, his his medical license was pulled, he was harassed and dragged through the mud of the media.

And so I think Doctor, you would share my initial perception when we first looked at this, we thought, well, gee whiz.

I mean, you know, where there's all this smoke, this must there must be fire.

But when we actually looked at Dr.

Wakefield, at his research, at the narrative that he actually encountered as a gastroenterologist, the parents came to him and they said, look, the child has GI tract inflammation and and and all kinds of problems um and and um uh uh in its in GI tract function, but also coincident to that, the child seems to be suffering from autism.

So Dr.

Wakefield and his colleagues will say, well, you know, what's going on here?

This is this is a rather remarkable observation.

They publish a seminal study in the Lancet in the year 1998, and I want to emphasize this.

They do not claim to have discovered a link between MMR vaccination and autism.

They do not make that claim, they merely say looking at the case studies that have been presented to us, it strongly raises the suspicion that there's a link and that this should be further examined.

And I'll conclude with this.

In my opinion, what got Dr.

Wegfield in trouble with this public health um pharmaceutical company biopharmaceutical complex was the particular statement in the Lancet report was if there is indeed a link between MMR and autism, we can expect to see a strong upward trend.

And the number of cases of autism in the UK.

So that has proven to be prophetic.

And I think that that statement that he made is a key element of his being branded in effect a heretic.

Now, you know, we we use a lot of scientific language in our in our uh discourse about this kind of uh subjects, but I really want to emphasize that the way Wakefield was treated to me is very reminiscent of the way the Holy Office of the Inquisition used to treat people who are branded as heretics, people like Galileo Galilei, for example.

Um so this this autism story encompasses um science, logic, history, religion.

It's it's it's a vast story.

Um and where it ceases to be just an academic matter is in these tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of children who are profoundly autistic.

And Doc, I'll let you talk a little bit more about this.

I I think this this idea of a spectrum disorder obscures the fact that this isn't just a spectrum.

There is, in fact, on the severe side of the spectrum, a very, very distinct presentation of severe symptoms.

Could you talk about that?

Yes, uh, certainly, and you know, Wakefield will appear on uh national TV as uh many of us will throughout probably today and and for you know some time now.

Many are calling for his uh exoneration, his vindication, including Senator Ron Johnson today by tweet.

Now, remember uh Wakefield's initial observation in Lancet was a valid study for 13 years in Lancet before, under pressure from the pharmaceutical lobby, Lancet uh retracted the paper, but it was only after Wakefield's prediction was beginning to come true.

Now, what's happened in the last year is notable that uh uh a book by Gavin De Becker called Brain Injury was published.

And and uh de Becker points out that 20 vaccines have in their package inserts a side effect.

The side effect is encephalitis or brain inflammation.

So through these FDA negotiated package inserts, the vaccines do cause brain inflammation in some children.

I think De Becker's uh work on this is spot on.

The other book Yeah, that's it right there, forbidden facts.

So a great uh credit to Gavin De Becker.

The other book that uh hit in addition to ours, John, is a book by uh lead attorney Aaron Seary from Siri Gilmstead, and it's called Vaccines Amen.

And it's uh a reiteration of this observation that vaccines are accepted based on religious faith.

And he points out this dark part of vaccine regulation where the vaccines uh you know get approved with very little uh clinical data, almost nothing on safety, uh, no uh proven uh trials where there's a placebo control trial, certainly not enough follow-up, and how corrupt the entire vaccine industry is.

So these three books our book, vaccines, mythology, ideology, and reality, Gavin De Becker, brain injury, and then Aaron Seary, vaccines and men.

This was occurring in 2025 before the McCullough Foundation report hits.

The CDC comes out with a report that we're now deep into autism.

That uh occurred this spring with the 2025 release of the 2022 data.

And uh, and now we have this picture of profound autism that John brought up, and I see uh these individuals in my practice, and I want to make this point that my clinical exam of autistic individuals, young individuals, uh, adolescents, adults, to me, it appears like a post encephalitic pattern, meaning that there was brain inflammation at the around the time of the vaccines were being administered, and now there are associated features of encephalitis, uh, uh difficulty uh in concentration, difficulty in maintaining eye contact, communication.

There's actually hearing abnormalities.

This is common with encephalitis, for instance, where there's uh what's called hyperacusis.

You may see uh autistic children wearing uh sound canceling headphones.

That's a post-encephalitic um feature.

Uh there is about 32% of autistic children also have attention deficit disorder.

Uh about 8% of those with ADHD have autism.

And then there's a percent, probably 10 to 15% of autistic children, particularly profound autism, that have epilepsy or seizures.

These are all consistent in my view as of autism spectrum disorder, particularly profound autism being a manifestation of a post-encephalitic state.

Because I'm reasonable I'm saying this is the CDC has brought up the issue of ingredients.

And uh many have seen exhaustive analyses on mercury, uh, thiomerosol, which has largely been removed from the vaccines, save for 4% of the influenza vaccine.

So it's out.

And, you know, so mercury has been removed from the vaccines and autism still has gone up.

Uh, we're now have aluminum to examine.

So about 60% of all the doses of vaccines given to children contain aluminum.

And the aluminum amounts that accumulate over time exceed the body's ability to get rid of it.

There are case examples where blood aluminum levels have been measured in children, and they are high transiently after a vaccine.

But I'm here to tell you that I don't think autism spectrum disorder is a manifestation of aluminum encephalopathy.

Aluminum encephalopathy has been described for sure uh in a um uh in a French study of elderly people called the Plaquid study.

And uh it right it manifests because there's uh you know aluminum in the drinking water for many, many years in the in these elderly French community.

It's a form of accelerated dementia.

It has a physical exam feature of uh clonus or myoclonus, which is a ratcheting of the uh muscles and a certain uh pattern on reflex, and uh and and can be associated with a with with, in a sense, almost like a delirium.

The same would be true from aluminum encephalopathy and hemodialis patients.

So it's my interpretation that the metals, both mercury and aluminum contribute to brain inflammation or encephalitis, but they themselves are not an etiologic factor or a central factor in the development of autism spectrum disorder.

Meaning, like with mercury, removing that from the vaccines did not stop the autism epidemic.

And I don't think removing aluminum from the vaccines will stop the autism epidemic because it's global brain inflammation that's inherent to the vaccine ingredients uh uh the main ingredients, which include the antigens or the um the attenuated uh viral strains or killed viral strains.

So, Nick, uh what do you see out there in terms of uh mainstream media and social media reaction to this development from the CDC, which, but by the way, the CDC had no press release on this.

This is probably one of the most profound statements the CDC has made about childhood vaccines uh in in many, many uh decades, and no press release.

Nick, what are you seeing out there?

Yeah, well, you read my mind.

I was just searching that up, and you you know it's not surprising.

We look at every single mainstream media site is lashing out in a panic ever since this happened.

For example, um, let's look, let's see here.

Where do they mention misinformation?

Here we go.

CDC website changed to include false claims that link autism to vaccines, CNN.

Um let's see what else.

CDC replaces website on vaccines and autism with false and misleading claims.

Uh CDC vaccine website promotes anti-science claims.

Um I could just interject what what you're seeing, and this is this is not an exaggeration that this is not just some vague metaphor.

This is the exact equivalent during the counter-reformation of the Holy Office of the Inquisition trying to stamp out heresy.

None of I I've I scan through some of these stories.

None of them address the evidence.

It's just it's just uh a further re it's a reassertion of an orthodox article of faith.

It's it it I and I this is important.

It none of these these journalists actually examine the arguments or the data.

So it's almost done.

It's almost as if they're making an ad hominem attack directly against the agency.

Well, it is.

Now, I have to admit, I mean, shows how naive I am.

I thought that that the CDC did accompany the website change.

With a press release.

And now you're telling me because I somebody sent me the link.

I assumed it was a link to a press release.

So in other words, they they just kind of by night and fog updated the website, but didn't announce it.

Do I understand this correctly?

And there's nobody's name at the end of the, you know, they issue kind of nine pages on this.

There's nobody, there's no CDC officer or, you know, this is so big, you'd think you'd have uh, you know, acting CDC uh director, Jim O'Neill.

Now, Jim O'Neill did receive the McCullough Foundation report.

But um uh this is a stunning development.

Now, Nick, what are you seeing on the health freedom side of things out there in social media and in independent media?

Yeah, the health freedom side, they are very happy that even this such a it really is kind of really just a small little baby step of you know, changing words on a website, but just this small win has made people so happy because you know, people have been fighting for this for so long.

And you know, the medical freedom movement, the grassroots Maha movement does view this as a major win, and it is because they are finally reversing their stance on the vaccines and autism.

But um, yeah, we do need to see a press conference, that's for sure.

Um, you know, it's it's quite strange to just roll out such a large change and not uh give any explanation.

Well, in many ways, this is the McCullough Foundation press conference.

We did issue a press release on our report October 27, 2025.

John, I want to finish with your reflections about the role of public activism out there.

The the CDC does mention in its um website report uh uh yesterday that at least half of parents survey with children with autism believe the vaccines played a role in the development of autism.

Many of these parents have become activists, and we've seen the rise of just you know, wonderful uh health activist organizations out there uh and their you know impetus has become greater and greater.

What do you think their role is in seeing the change that we just saw over the last uh 24 hours?

Well, I think it's it's the most perfidious feature of this story is the story, and and Dr.

Wakefield, you know, has emphasized this repeatedly in conversations with me.

He says, look, it's an old adage of medicine that you have to actually listen to patients.

You can't just say patient comes into my office um complaining of something, but you know, what the hell does he know?

He's an idiot and he didn't go to medical school.

I mean, it's you're you're not going to get very far actually as a healer, if that's your arrogant academic attitude.

But what you it's funny, I didn't like fully appreciate this.

Um, in the case of an infant, the infant oftentimes is not reached the stage where the infant can speak.

So what the physician has to do is ask the mother, uh, particularly the mother, because during this early phase of life, the mother has an incredibly close relationship with her infant.

In fact, I would dare say, not that I know anything about it personally, but that a mother's relationship with her infant is probably the most exquisitely tuned relationship in all of human relations.

I mean, she's constantly looking at him and his face and his affect and his tone and all of the stuff that infants signal.

So it's it's the hype of perfidious arrogance when a mom comes in and says, look, the baby was fine.

First 12 months, first 18 months, he was a sort of a babbling toddler that was playing with toys and would hold eye contact and smile at me when I smiled at him.

The vignette, and there are thousands of them.

Mom takes the baby in for a baby well visit, baby gets a bunch of shots.

Um, 12 hours later, the baby develops a high fever, sometimes all the way up to 105 Fahrenheit, maybe has a seizure.

I've had numerous parents tell me the terrifying thing was shortly after vaccination, we were in a restaurant, the baby was in a in one of those little caring things, and we look over and the baby is seizing.

Oh my god, what's going on here?

The seizures are the fever or the combination of both resolve, at which point the baby regresses.

It's like someone just kidnapped the child, leaving behind a kind of empty husk of the child.

The mom goes in, she's got the temporal association clearly documented, and what is the pediatrician as often as not tell her?

It has nothing to do with the vaccines.

So I mean, if if if a if a criminal investigator told that to parents whose child had disappeared, and the parents had a document, the child went to the bus stop to get on the school bus and was last seen, you know, it was never seen again.

If the investigator said, you know, something um I appreciate this is your perception of the timeline, but I don't think that's the case.

I mean, no crime would ever be solved.

So I I really think it's important to understand that this is the kind of debate in human affairs that can be easily seized by people availing themselves of academic authority in order to, in effect, appropriate the conversation away from the actual witnesses.

And in this case, the most important witnesses are the mothers.

So we've seen with some of the mothers that we've worked with, Jackie Schlagel here in Texas.

Um there are a number of women, mothers who have worked closely with children's health defense.

I mean, they're really the bottom of the or are the basis, their witness testimony is the basis of ultimately arriving at seeing the reality of what's going on here.

Well, uh, you know, great credit given to these mothers and fathers who have joined organizations, been major drivers in organizations.

So in Texas, Jackie Schlegel for Texas for Medical Freedom, Rebecca Hardy, Texans for Vaccine Choice, Children's Health Defense, you mentioned, led by Mary Holland, now an organization that's uh, you know, essentially changed the landscape of vaccine risk awareness.

Uh, they've made huge strides.

You know, Dell Big Tree and the Highwire, uh, one of the best uh media presentations uh you can ever have on the topic.

And of course, Dell's documentaries of vaxxed, unvaxxed, and now an inconvenience study, which won a you know, best film award at the Malibu uh independent film festival.

Uh Syria and Gilmstead, and it's not for profit agency.

I can't, I can decide.

Uh they've been enormously influential.

Uh Canadians for vaccine choice and all the international organizations, uh, the World Council for Health, great credits as their guidance came out and called Safer to Wait in 2023.

That was the you know, physician uh-led evidence-based consensus-driven organization, the first one to come out and say, listen, maybe it's safer to wait, or it is safer to wait on childhood vaccines.

So uh great credit given to all of those who have worked to change the landscape of where we are in vaccines.

And now the CDC essentially capitulating to some degree.

Now, now they have indicated they will have their own report, and they should.

And uh I imagine the McCullough Foundation report will be a great report to build on.

There's a wonderful report uh published uh by Toby Rogers of the Brownstone Institute that has a huge building block of information on the genetic uh uh uh determinants or the uh susceptibility factors for autism.

Uh, all of these will come together.

But I'm here to tell you, I think today is a day in history where vaccination in the United States and worldwide forever has changed.

We saw a report by Vasuvian and colleagues published in JAMA Open Network recently, where 60% of parents indicate they're not going through with the full ACIP schedule, uh, you know, as it's laid out before them.

Some may be degraded or declined, some may opt out of vaccination altogether.

Uh we include in our report a paper by Mosson and Jacob indicating that 10% of all Medicaid recipients in Florida now, those children have had no visits, no Medicaid visits for vaccination, maybe their parents may be declining vaccination altogether.

And as Nick Closure indicates in our report, 12 studies reassuringly have indicated that if a child, a healthy child born today goes without any vaccines, that they are indeed healthier.

Than their fully vaccinated counterparts.

And we have treatments for uh for these vaccine preventable diseases now, uh, the mortality of which all were substantially reduced long before the vaccines have ever came onto the um, you know, onto the the market and got into popular use.

So uh Nick, uh, we're gonna close out this uh live broadcast from the McCullough Foundation at this time.

Um, but but uh, you know, I want you to update our followers about where they can see this broadcast and where they can see our coverage on this late breaking development from the CDC.

It's first in history acknowledgement that uh childhood vaccination may be linked to uh autism.

So Nick, take it from here and close this out.

Gentlemen, could I just interject something real quick?

Yes, we have two minutes.

Um, I just wanted to say um, if I may, Doctor, uh, what I think is the best way to to proceed in terms of investigating and further drilling down on this, if I may.

Um, so uh I think that going forward, the approach to this, the methodology should be what Sir Austin Bradford Hill did in his examination of is there a link between smoking over a period of time and uh lung cancer.

And um I I think it's instructive.

Um, Sir Austin Bradford Hill did not set out to ascertain the causes of the whole spectrum of different kinds of cancer.

Um, there was an observation that had already been made.

Um, there had been some seminal observations made in Germany in the 20s and 30s.

There's a guy named Fritz Linkett in Germany who did uh um an epidemiological study on smoking and lung cancer.

What Sir Austin did is he said we are going to try to ascertain if not the entire population, but in what is apparently a susceptible segment of the population for whatever underlying reasons, if heavy smoking causes lung cancer.

And so he very carefully and methodically examined this, and he ultimately drew the conclusion there is a causal link between smoking and lung cancer.

And that is what needs to be done with autism.

There needs to be a properly structured case series of parents who have reported this particular vignette, normal birth, normal gestation, normal milestone, developmental milestones hit, goes in to get a bunch of vaccines.

It's these multiple administrations all at once, develops the initial acute symptoms, and then regresses into autism.

A Bradford Hill style study needs to be done on this, and then that will show the way, just as Sir Austin showed the way with smoking and lung cancer.

And John, to qualify that, you know, our next steps that McCullough Foundation specifically to focus on the subset of profound autism, which is unambiguous.

So we don't have the clouded um, you know, uh array of of spectrum diagnoses that um uh you know is referred to as neurodiversity.

We want to focus on those that were completely normal, and they've become severely impaired after, you know, a battery of vaccines.

Yes, I I think that's important.

I see autism spectrum disorder is a deliberate muddying of the semantic waters.

And I and I've uh I interviewed um Gavin De Becker about his book, and I and I do want to get the title right, Forbidden Facts.

Um, and he he independently of me had the exact same perception.

This talk of an of a spectrum is is it what it's doing is it's diverting attention from identifying a particular symptom that's caused by a particular cause.

It's just it's making it making the whole thing so broad and ill-defined that you can't actually hit a particular target.

Well, in other words, John, it's normalizing it.

Like this is normal, and it's being presented to the public as neurodiversity.

Nick, we've got to close it out.

Uh uh tell our followers uh where they can find the McCullough Foundation report, how to follow us, how to support the McCullough Foundation in our critical work in this area, which is clearly influencing public policy acutely.

Again, McCullough Foundation report released October 27th, 2025, sent to the CDC, HHS, all of the officials, November 19th, 2025.

The CDC comes out after reviewing that with now, I think a clear capitulation that we can no longer say that childhood vaccination is unrelated to autism.

Nick, take it away.

Yeah, so everybody go visit McCullough FND.org.

You will find our autism report on our homepage.

You'll find the link.

There's a no-do link where you can download the whole report.

Uh, we're going to follow up with this interview on the focalpoints.com.

We're going to post it on our substack.

If you want to rewatch it, and we're going to provide all the links and the breakdown of everything that's happened.

And yeah, I just want to close out with this is a very serious situation.

Look at the top right.

Look at that graph.

We went from one in 10,000.

We're now at one in 31, 26.7% of these are profoundly autistic children.

So we cannot just stop not do anything and let this to continue to increase until half of all boys will end up being autistic at its current trajectory.

So again, very serious.

107 studies we identified, all linking vaccines to autism or neurodevelopmental disorders, spanning epidemiologic population data down to mechanistic biological evidence, down to clinical and real case reports.

So the preliminary evidence is so clear.

Now we're honing in on the final steps.

And if you want to support us in those final steps, uh please consider contributing to the McCullough Foundation again at McCullough FND.org.

Nick and John, thank you so much.

I'm Dr.

Peter McCullough, president of the McCullough Foundation.

Thank you so much for listening.

Thank you.

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