Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte.

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Yes, okay, all right.

This is one of those ones where I'm like, you know, let's discuss Big and Carrie, because I know you've got some thoughts and feelings.

I have a lot of thoughts and feelings.

Here's my thing.

I know that everyone is kind of like Big is terrible.

That's kind of like the general consensus is.

Right now, how much are you watching like fan edits on TikTok Because they're electrifying by the way.

They never know when they're going to be mean.

Well, oh, there's only good ones a Charlotte.

It's like Charlotte has one line and then boom, it's like, you know, all these like clips of her are likes are eating down.

Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna send you.

But I know, here's the thing in between the movies.

Yea, And and just like that, there's a happy marriage there.

They were together for a long time and the days they have that we see where he's kind of putting on like records and she's like getting takeout and they're kind of like hanging out and he's got a cigar.

I don't know, it just seems like they really they match each other's freak and they're and they're slight, you know, I don't I think we say narcissistant a little too freely.

Of course, I think, you know, they both can be self centered at times.

But yes, and I think that he he is of course toxic, but I do think that he loves her.

And his actions in the American in Paris part two, I'm I'm like, he loves that woman, and he did, and at the wedding it was a lot I kind of see why.

He was a little bit like freaked out.

And I do get that he was like, it looks bad because it's my second marriage and I've already had my.

My marriage was in the trades.

I think also he tried to call She's got to start using that phone, my daughter to get that exactly.

I'm like, Lily, don't play this.

But here I'm like, I think, of course, I'm glad that she was like you at the wedding.

I mean, that was and when my father gave them.

The lived one of the few lives ever.

That's my girl.

But yeah, I all.

The years of them telling you, Charlotte couldn't be angry, pent up, you.

Have to come watch this, Zachos ready to.

Let's go.

But I just, yeah, I think I kind of I'm I'm a Charlotte in that way that I am like.

I I do see that there is like a love and a friction here.

I think there's other powers that be.

Do I think they're like totally perfect for each other?

Maybe not, But I do think that there was a beautiful bond there.

I think, and I really don't want to I don't want to speak ill of it.

I don't like her and aiden together way more than I have problems with that.

Yeah, we can't talk about that right now because we will never do it.

I know.

Yeah, sorry, Okay.

Thing so I at the time, right because I played Charlotte, and Charlotte was always believing in love and always poring right.

So I never ever, ever second guessed it at all.

And I'm not the kind of actor where I read a script and think about it from an outside perspective.

Cynthia does that beautifully, like she'll say, oh, we need more of this or this or that.

You know, she can think about it analytically.

I'm in it from the second that I read it.

I'm never out interesting.

Yeah, I'm saying is it's only the information I'm getting in the right and.

I'm going to go with it.

And yes, I'm building on it in my head, right, like what do I need to deepen out here in my mind that I'm going to play subtext whatever blah blah blah.

Actually in the beginning, right because we were just starting.

But I never questioned big And also, and I've said this many times, but oh, I say, Benny, with the Kardashians, I was supposed to.

Talk to you about that next next.

Time, Okay, I really felt.

I really felt, like I look back on it now because I never rewatched before I am now, right, So I'm like these episodes I hardly remember.

Yeah, it's fascinating.

I don't know what I'm about to do.

I'm like, what am I about to do?

And they came out?

Did you watch them?

I watched it before they came out, because they'd give us a VHS.

Oh well, I was on HBO.

Okay, she just watched that, and then that was Run Home and we'd be so excited.

At least I was right, you know what I mean.

I wasn't that critical of myself back then.

But also I was so into the world we were creating.

Well yeah, of course, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and see what everyone else is doing.

That's what's fun to be like, I don't know you were shooting.

That, right, because you weren't there.

Yeah, it's really cool.

Yeah.

So I never thought twice about big.

And I also think that we were just very, very used to men like this, of course, And I mean it's not like they don't exist now, but like back then, they were kind of the norm.

Yeah, him in this episode looking at women, I'm like, yeah, that's.

I don't see any changes now, Like I still I'll still literally be with like a guy, a straight guy.

It's rare, but I'll be with a straight guy every now and then.

And I'll see like them check out, you know waitress, and I'm like, I'm sure I do that.

Okay, So as a man.

You know, I'm like, I get that.

And also I've seen like women do that, I mean my friends.

But do we do this?

Obviously no, of course there's so men don't do this thing.

It's called being discreet.

I would say that that's not necessarily on the menu, but I do think that.

Yeah, I get where carry's coming from.

I wish big.

I hate him in that that bar scene with the cigar.

That part is oh my gosh, and that's so crazy.

It's like I die a little bit.

That's where he uses me.

So sad.

It's sad because the episode before he sings to her, I know in the Italian my girlfriend and you were in love and says that you're just like everything I ever said about him.

I take you back exactly.

And then we're now in this episode smoke a cigar and this is a durable young waitress comes and Carrie puts up with it, and I'm dying.

She looks fabulous, She looks fabulous.

She looks fabulous at all times.

Really at all.

My favorite carrying moment that I feel like, actually now I'm I think it's getting its flowers.

But when she's got the newsboy cap on, pony chail.

Out and she shows up at the bar and Aiden's playing like yacht Si with the bartender, and you guys want me to like Aiden, don't be crazy.

Don't don't be crazy?

Funny that part.

I know the outfit.

I haven't done.

Watch that bastard when he tries to when he tries to punish her for her little.

Her love with Big.

Sorry, I love record.

That's the whole thing.

That's the whole thing.

We have to we have to hear.

Okay, okay, okay.

So here we are, here we are he So this is the thing that bugs me about the So what about Samanth.

Samantha says, so Big is very obviously looking at other women as carry and here are walking down the street.

Then she talks to all of No, she talks to just Samantha when they're walking in Central Park, and she basically says he's wondering and it's very good, and she says, Samantha says, you can't change the part about a man.

It's in their genetic code, like something else I'm not going to say, she.

Said, like farting, Yes, thank you, Yes, of course you got to have I say all the crude stuff.

But this is her She's a theme, right because in the cheating episode, she's like, this is just what they're going to do.

It's in their code.

It's genetics, it's you know, it's who they are.

Like, are you of that, thinking.

That that men it's just men are going to do this?

Yeah, I mean there's a pattern for sure.

I think that there's a natural thing that we tell straight men that there's like always a something better out there for them, you know.

So then I think gay men feel this.

Maybe sometimes, but I do think it feels very straight guy to be like the world is built for you, and I think it is in a lot of ways.

So then I think they're.

They're like hedging their bets because there might be something better maybe.

And also I think, yeah, I don't think Samantha's wrong and that if this is like a huge red flag, I don't think that this feels like the biggest red flag, just because just I think guys in general, now, the red flag is how he acts in that.

Rest Totally, totally, totally, you're so brutal.

I know, and thank god, Yeah, doesn't she say She's like, you're so you're so full of yourself?

Does she say it?

There?

She said something like that will get to it in a second.

I mean, but this is when this whole episode starts, and you can she's holding it in and holding it in, holding it in, holding in it, which I really relate to and feel for her, and you know, it's fascinating to watch, and she does it so beautifully, you know, because I was talking to someone else who said, oh, you know, she makes drama when things are good, but that's because she's held in so many things.

Yeah, of course.

Also she's an observer.

I think like she's coming to this as like a writer and someone who's writing about it, so it's like the her being thoughtful also talking to our friends a lot about it.

I don't know if I necessarily think.

That that's like narcissistic, like I think it is her job and that to me, I'm like, it's kind of the this feels like you would.

Anyone in relationships is probably talking about it too much, especially in a new relationships.

That's just when you're young.

People do I want my girls to they once they're done, I go start from the top.

Which I want to hear it again?

What do we think he's doing?

I got to hear this again.

God, you're such a good friend.

I love Anthony in a lot of ways.

Love it.

Yeah about that, I will.

I will think you're less angry, yes, yes, yes, yeah, I'm more playful yes, which I love.

So let me ask you this.

We've got we are in the depths now with Miranda and Steve.

He just showed up last episode.

I first of all didn't even realize he comes in the second season.

He's early and she's amazing, say from the first second, which I didn't remember.

Yeah, he's really not to you know, do you know not to.

Do it?

What would this be?

I guess I don't know.

I'm like, what would I How would this get me in trouble?

But he just has a great butt and well.

So much love.

Like I feel like people like as like a young gay guy watching the show is like Steeve's like kind of hot, it's because everyone's like guys, but I'm like, Steve's hot.

Oh my god, he's very hot, and he's hot.

I never noticed the butt because I know him and I can't.

It's I mean, and I mean.

Yes, so much more than that.

He really is.

And the thing that's great about him is that he's very in the way that I think Evan also does and definitely Kyle does from the minute they show up, even though you don't know that that guy is going to stay and I can't remember if we really knew what was going to happen with Sidenbergh.

They come with so much.

And they feel so real, like they feel like the fully formed because some I think so beautiful are so beautifully written as this almost like like the jazz guy for some reason is so funny because that is such a specific guy and you don't want to it's like, boom, that's him.

There is nothing else you need to know.

That's true.

That like some just feel like like even in aiden, I know I'm being really hard on him today.

I don't know why, but like.

I just feel like there's a lot Yeah, okay myself, Hey, we all are I think you know this show so beautifully writes these like complex, like iconic women, but the way men are written, I feel like it's so I don't know, so inspiring to me with.

The show because it just yeah, at times you can make so flat, so satirical.

So but then someone like Steve can come in and they're just what you thought you were imposing on the sprint.

They're completely different.

There's so much that's true and where he's coming from, and that's.

So true and what I love is like so he really also cuts through her stuff, you know, like mine is obviously and you know, tough and all of the things right, and she's so mean to him in the first episode that he comes and now they're just having all this sex and stuff.

She's trying to stay away even am right, what's morning sex?

And she does this it's a very interesting thing.

But then she gets all dressed uff for him and drinks a bunch of coffee and then he comes over, he falls asleep and then she's like no.

So that's so like it's those moments.

I think it even is the you know, the Charlotte, I'm your wife and you know, I won't do the whole thing again.

But it is it is fully just putting yourself.

It's like those vulnerable moments I think are where the show is so funny and real, and that like, there's something funny about turning on sexiness because I think no one knows when they're actually sexy.

Good point, Like we all think this thing is so sexy, but then I say that to someone and they're like, no, that was it was so much hotter when you did that.

And I'm like, oh my god, I looked really.

Gross, you know what I mean.

And you're like, I hate when I wear my hair like that.

So it's something I think it's true like that.

It feels so real in that he's like, you look great, but it's like that's not the you know.

Well, it's also like she obviously made this effort, which I think of matters because previously she was kind of making none, right, and you don't know about that effort.

Well, I do think Steve Keres, because apparently later someone else told me this again.

I'm really like in it, he asks her to do something for him.

It comes to his basketball and he doesn't, but then she does, right.

But you know, she's just Miranda has her walls and she's so much right, and she's like, I'm not going to compromise her whatever, that's her thing.

And as we know, the whole course of them, this is going to continue in different ways.

In beautiful ways.

I think their relationship I love too.

I think their relationship is so Yeah, I don't know, it feels really real to like, I agree.

I don't know.

I went to college with a lot of New York kids, and I feel like she feels like a lot of the parents I met, and those relationships feel like the parents met.

I don't know.

I don't know how to describe it.

Well.

I think that people who go to New York.

First of all, there's a bunch of interesting people who go, right, Like, you only go to New York if like you're full of something, like something you want to super succeeds for life, alpha lost for life, creativity, whatever it is.

You only go to New York if you're like like overly full, right, and then you go there and then you might be like, oh what did I do?

This place is insane and you might leave.

But if you stay and creative family, that means you're different.

Yeah, there's something exactly that that's so especially from people who came to New York not like raise that right, because it's like parents, like grew up in Brooklyn and like that feels that.

It's definitely, definitely, definitely, Yeah, there's.

Something about them.

It all feels very real.

I'm with you.

I'm totally with you.

Okay, So I love their love their thing.

Now you see me with this guy, and you know, apologies to this person.

I don't remember him literally at all.

He's so weird.

Well, there were a lot you see yourself and you're like, oh my god, I'm because I have no I'm just like I was blacked out that episode.

I don't know.

I mean the amount of like hours you're clocking in Honestly at that point on a sound stage.

It is just like I thought, no.

And we're not in the sound stage at that point.

I do think I had.

I think at this one, I saw my white flowers, Charlotte's white flowers show up in this episode for the first time.

Very exciting.

Yeah, yeah, I think I might have three flats from my bedroom now.

I started with just two and a bed and a night stand and a picture of a woman falling through water.

Yes, that was it, and that that's so high it's high.

Yeah, it's high in the corner.

It's high.

Although I don't think Charlotte would have a TV and no, I know.

I think I only had it because I had that handyman one time who had to come fix it, and then I decided to have sex fix it.

Exact you thought it was day Zo.

Need to start with me, you can go all day I remember that I love that gay guy that you're like, oh no, oh my god, I.

Love him and crush on him is incredible.

Ye, when he's had a huge crush.

Well done.

Yeah, yeah, well let me ask you this.

We called him metrosexual.

Oh yeah, which I think we got to bring that back.

That was so so you're not against, No, I think, I mean, okay.

Maybe I don't know.

I'm like, I don't think I'm I don't know if I'm pro or against.

I think I'm more like, I just if that was a tiptoe into being more accepting gay people tell you.

But also I'm like, it is funny to finally give it a term, because it's like, you guys are acting Gaysing.

Said that at the time it would have been bad.

Yeah, but metro feels like it was the culture at that it was my thing.

Is also like they're like, no, that guy is gay, you can't go out with him, and I'm like, he is, Oh no, I think I haven't rewatched, but I think there's like a lot of I think you're like, let.

Me see, I really love Charlotte being like it feels very true.

It feels very true to my experiences with women to where it would be like gay was put so far down on the list of things they thought that were going wrong between me and them.

This is true.

Yeah, They're like, it's me.

It's my body, it's my hair, my skin, the way I talk.

And then someone's like or he's a flaming homosexual and they're like no, no, no, yeah.

Yes, okay.

I went to college with a bunch of actors.

I went to Rutgers and they had me school School of the Arts, like the BFA program.

Yeah, so when we started.

I know where this is going, you do.

When they started, the sophomores and up would take beds on the freshman and who would be gay and who wouldn't be gay, and we were just like what you know?

Yeah?

And I came from South Carolina, all right, so I was super clueless.

I know a bunch of gay people, but no one said they were gay.

Of course they were in South Carolina.

Yeah, so in the eighties.

Yeah, my prom date is gay.

But that's also my boyfriend exactly.

Yeah, and we're going together for a while, exactly.

So.

I have a boyfriend in college in my freshman year.

His name is Bob, and he was a sophomore.

So I thought, well, he's already as the freshman test or whatever.

Of course, I love this to me, let me.

She was so sweet, right, really, like you could have emotional conversations with me.

I've never had this in my young life, do you know what I mean?

I never total So then.

In the in the indimcy category, he was really into giving oral sex, not so much into the other things.

Right, it's not really my thing, which I know, like I'm saying a lot.

I understand its clickbait right now, but this is the truth in your Benny, So I'm gonna tell you.

I was like, that's not really my thing so much, but it's just I could never like get over that hurd so important.

I'm talking to my other freshman girlfriends about it, and we're all just like, oh, well, that's interesting, and they were all put it, don't you like that?

Isn't that good?

Trying to please you?

Isn't that great?

And I'm like, well, I don't know, it's just really kind of all it happens, and like I just can't seem to like I just keep thinking it's gonna progress and it just doesn't.

That's kind of it.

Yeah, okay, but isn't that that's not really bad?

And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.

I mean, I don't know why it took them so long, but come junior year, very gay.

Yeah, but then it was a drama and it's so sad when I look back on it because it was like such a it's like what your show is about, you know, And that's part of why I love your show, Like it's it is a specific relationship that you should be able to make great.

Yeah, but it's it's what's so it's that it's both sad, but then also in the end, I think there is something beautiful about it.

There's like a safety as long as like women.

I think I always feel terrible if it ever comes across as like women getting used in that way because it's.

So used you know, it's it's so confused.

Absolutely, yeah, and that's it.

It's a little bit like mental warfare that you were unfortunately, psychological warfare that we're imposing on women where they're like yeah, and so I think that's the thing too.

It's like that everyone is kind of having this in all of their sexual.

Explorations, you know, yes, yes, And I think that's what Sex and the City does so beautifully.

That there are so many other ways that these things can be strange because sex is so weird, like the way and everyone brings a weirdness to it.

But yeah, it is, I know.

But the thing that was said was that after we've been so close, I was always just like a little mad at him.

I guess I was just like, yeah, well Macnus.

That makes sense.

And I think that's that also is the show and that I'm like, I these relationships are so complicated, like he does there and there's miscommunication, and there's you are you know unfortunately like telling you know something.

Eighteen or nineteen or whatever.

Yeah, and you're like, oh, I put right.

You're like I gave you my body like I felt, you know, and and then like, oh you wasted my time.

That was kind of a thing that conversation at that point in time in a theater school, I would say probably most Oh yeah, you had to look real hard.

You had to look real hard to find anyone.

And there would probably be the one you would never would have thought.

Oh no, No, it was one that I totally thought, okay, and it was a great, great boyfriend.

But it took me till senior year to figure that out.

But it was great because it was freedom.

It was freedom once you kind of accepted you know, it's just freedom.

Yeah, I'm saying, oh, totally, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Do you want to talk about Charlotte and this this boy it's just to get circumcised, which is so weird and honestly, can it even happen?

So yeah, I don't know if this I think I can.

I love that Charlotte's crushing our guys like this, that she's saying, hey, I need this, but it is so a guy thing to have this new At the end, when he's like, I know, I kind of have this newfound life.

I can't live it.

You don't see it coming from this dude, He's like, kind of.

It's just great.

It's just like it's such a deliciously written this sequence to me that it's like, I mean, I don't, yeah, I don't.

This is so interesting to me because if it is so American and that this is such a because I grew up in Idaho, so it was like if someone was uncircumcised.

Everyone knew, right, it was very different.

It was so different and so yeah, and so I feel like there is something so Charlotte when she has that line that she's like, I'm from Connecticut.

Right, that is so Mary.

I know a lot of people do this, like cover their true selves, but I mean it's it's a lot of work.

It's a lot of work, so much so that acting is really it feels really fun.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, I'm like kind of back in, back in the swing of things.

I love that.

I think Charlotte, I don't.

I think she could have maybe come to love it at some point if she really ended up liking the guy.

Yeah, that guy was exciting enough.

I completely agree, and.

I think she was like, oh, yeah, maybe let's see and then I'm getting it done.

At first I could see how that'd be like for me, right, No.

That was exciting.

What could be better?

The girls are like, you know, the girls don't even get on her her thinking, which is obviously not unusual, but it is very sweet.

But there are also so many big things that happened, but you know we weren't well.

Samantha's My favorite is is very much.

I really see myself reflected in that of returning to an ex girlfriend and you're like dressed up as.

Them in a way.

I don't know.

I think about that a lot where I'm like, well, yeah, I had kind of been with this girl in college, if you and so I wonder if she was ever story And I just say, I've never heard a single thing from her about anything, and I've never heard anyone ask her, but I am curious, like if she it seems like maybe she is kind of like more on the mad side, you know, and kind of like what the fuck me?

Does she still have an Idaho?

No?

No, this was in college, but it's just so but it's so funny to me to think, like, oh my god, yeah, I don't know.

That scene feels so real of like my.

Thought looking at it was why is she not more flattered?

Well what I mean incredible delivery of like I'm so much prettier than her.

So it's funny, but it's incredible.

I think now maybe more flattered.

I think at the time, I think it might be a little bit of the Bob thing where you're like, damn, wait really and like, am I the reason that.

She's confused?

But I'm a perfect woman, right, you know?

Like how so I and I think there is just something so almost in that of him like taking her entire vibe.

For the drag queen.

I feel like it is also.

Is it not flattering?

I think both the name and the look is kind of like that could be like to.

Wait, you're you know of like calling yourself you took my whole vibe?

Yeah, I'm clearly the reference here, right, you know, but but it's just to I think that is almost like just a beautifully like comedic scene in an episode that feels more like about this complicated of like carrying big kind of being hell, yes, need that moment of like.

Oh definitely don't know.

I was thinking about this as I rewatched, like how once we feel more confident to be dramatic, the things that we have deemed to be the comedy subplots have to be upped of course.

Yeah, yeah, it's like tone.

I mean that show like I think Sex and the City balances tone so beautifully because it's like the second it would maybe get too much, then there is like a perfect laugh or just like someone one of the side stories, whether it be you or Miranda or you know, and that these and or carry at times where like that that's the humor.

Like even I think Hot Child in the City.

I'm trying to think of what the other storylines were, but Carr watch it was just like a young guy that she's like taking, Yeah, and it's like she kind of gets to have that kind of like funlucky hair.

Yeah exactly.

And he's like he drawser in a comic book, you know, and it feels.

Very had a new writer drew comic books all.

I love it.

This is why it happened.

Yes, it's all coming.

Back to it's very like light and I think can balance that and what a gift of an ensemble.

I think that that's so fun for writers.

Okay, if it's going to be so if this is going to be so sad, like I remember when I was writing the fifth episode, Scott King and I were laughing so much at the thought of Haley spreading Mono at this party while you know, me and Carmen are getting our hearts broken, but just playing within that world because you know, people sign up for a comedy so you also.

Want to definitely, and I asked a very risky question, and you can go please.

I never want to leave.

So obviously we took time off.

We did the movies, we took time off, we came back with them just like that.

We intended to come back and make a different show with the same characters, which I know is slightly insane.

I don't know if I knew it then, but I definitely know it now.

Well, of course, as is always the case.

And no one had really done this.

It's not something that's commonly done.

We're so lucky we got to do it, obviously.

And the tone is different, obviously because we could never replicate the tone, you know, And it's twice as long, and there's more characters and we're dealing with different things.

But when you look at say, the balance of drama and comedy in Sex and City and then the whatever people want to call it, like people talk about how like we're insane on interest like that, which I don't feel when I'm in it.

Like that people are acting insane in the show, or that it's or like, oh the scenarios are insane.

I don't feel any of it is insane.

I don't know it's insane.

I think it's it's it's a shift from the show, but in a way that, Yeah, that feels like you have to naturally evolves.

I mean, what an insane creative challenge.

I think it's like.

The whole process of it because also each one is coming to you want to show evolution of characters, and I think that's something tricky that that people you know, whether they love or don't love how a character acting.

It's like, but the actor also has to bring in history to it, like this has been they are not that character that you met, because no one is the person that they were years ago.

That's that would be strange.

And that's the problem though, because we're frozen in time and still being watched.

Yeah, yet we're making this new thing.

Well that's why it's smart to create a different format for it.

But I think there's still in obvious blend of comedy and drama and and maybe like a little bit lesser like intense drama.

I mean, I guess big like literally dropped dead.

But sorry, I'm laughing at some uncomfortable because I think it's funny, just like I guess, well.

We started so then exactly the ultimate.

There is exactly that there is like a maybe more levity than any for me, definitely, I don't know.

I think that the show so beautifully can keep people still engaged.

Though I don't know.

That's the thing I like to say exactly, which.

I think, isn't that Like, I don't know, it's kind of proving it self in that it's like, still we have so much to say about women and what we think women should be an act in too in culture, and whether that be sexually.

Or with their families exactly.

So I'm like, I don't know.

And each of the relationships also still feel complicated, Like I think the carry and aiden thing does kind of sound like something that I think some people that are single at that age feel, and that there's you know, so I'm like that feel are you really yeah, marry me?

Is he going to come?

He's coming?

Of course?

My Charlotte's so sweet?

Yeah, he really is, my Charlotte?

Are you a Charlotte at all?

Okay, So I think I'm Charlotte Rising because at times I am very you know, and I do feel kind of like a preppy boy, and I like being straight.

I like being straight.

A's I like doing you know, I was the auditorio very that.

But then I think I lean maybe a little bit like naughtier like Samantha.

And then I do have like some Carrie in me.

I think I was going to say Carrie, I do feel get a.

I'm not, but I love her so much.

I just and I surround myself.

I think with Miranda and Charlotte's that feels like like Mary Beth to me, feels like a bit of she's such a Charlotte.

But then I think there's like a Miranda.

She's very logical, very like also.

Like sharp sharp yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I wouldn't use sharp.

I think she is.

She's so sharp, you know what, and she's.

So like I think what I love is like the stances are always just like it's this, and that feels and so totally like my East Coast girls like you nail that and and just like that is a joy, like just to be clear like everything.

I think it's cool that there's so much discourse, like that is so scary to me.

Of course it's scary, but I like, I think I'm getting like a tiny dust of that with my show, where like there are people have so many opinions of careacters.

Yeah, and they keeping like redeem him or I hate her she's a lesbian, and I'm like, yeah, I know, okay, sometimes but I think the fact that people are talking about it and electrified and that carry all of a sudden it is pissed at Miranda.

Hell yeah, I seated.

It was fascinating.

I didn't see it coming.

Man, I don't drink that Mexican cut were scared.

I was scared.

I was scared last week when they argued after my birthday party.

That's what I mean.

I haven't seen the latest week that's tonight.

Yeah, and yeah, because the coke, I think was even before it's been coming, you know what I'm saying.

Well, she took the last Mexican I know.

See, they have a complex relationship.

When you look back, it's own.

There is the kind of remember when I think there's something there.

I agree, but they need to kiss, but there's.

Something, there's something at this point, it's like letter.

Yeah, lesbian too, and I just watched My Power Lesbians.

It was really fun.

Up opportunity woman.

Oh my god, her lines, what a great mic drop.

She But if you're not gonna eat seat, you're not.

Oh.

I know, man, I know.

I went to the cubby room when I was young, and well in there.

I love you so much.

You're perfect.