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Is It You? With Bridget Moynahan aka Natasha...

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Speaker 1

Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know.

Are you a Charlotte?

You guys, it's a big day.

It's a big day.

Okay.

Speaker 2

Honestly, I didn't know if I was going to be able to talk Bridget into joining us, but I have.

She is here, the incredible, the one and the only Bridget moynihan who plays Natasha is here with us.

And I just found out something incredible.

Speaker 1

You guys, I did.

I admitted something pretty big.

It's big.

Please tell me it's pretty big, Nurse.

Yes, I don't know what's gonna happen if I say this, It's gonna be fine.

Speaker 2

It's gonna be fine.

Speaker 1

Like I'm gonna cry, Oh my god, this is like nerve wracking, amazing.

Speaker 2

It's no, We're just gonna I.

Speaker 1

Came in to say that.

A.

I don't listen to podcasts.

I just don't.

I don't know why it's okay unless it's news related, and even that I've had to pull back.

Sure, And I've never watched the full seasons of Sex in the City, and nobody knows that.

I've never admitted that, not even to my priest.

Wow, I love it so much.

I am so fastbreaking news.

Speaker 2

I mean it's breaking news and it's fascinating news.

Okay, Because I do think that there is this perception in the world that all of us actors just watch everything that we do and are fine with it and you know, feel proud and glory in it or whatever, Which is not to say that you don't feel proud, and you should feel proud, but it can be hard to watch yourself.

Is that why you don't watch yourself or the show?

Speaker 1

I think it's two different things.

Speaker 2

Ok On.

Speaker 1

I never watch shows that I'm in.

I see it for the first time, probably you know, at the premiere or you know, the first screening, and then I won't really go back, Okay, And I mean I just watched Coyote Ugly for the first time because I think we had another anniversary and that was the first time I've seen the movie in probably twenty five years or whatever the anniversary is.

I mean, it was pretty amazing.

What did you think when you watched a great movie?

Speaker 2

Right, it was.

Speaker 1

A great movie.

I read for Coyote Ugly, you did what role?

Speaker 2

I don't even know what role?

Some role where I was like, there is no way they're going to hire me.

Speaker 1

For this.

It was a very crazy audition process, and in fact, it was I got that right at the same time as I got sex in the City.

How incredible.

Yeah, right at the same time.

I think, I honestly think I was auditioning for them almost in the same day or in the same two days.

Unbelievable.

I mean multiple auditioning process you know, yeah, processes.

You have to dance.

I had to dance multiple days, dancing in front of like directors and producers, I.

Speaker 2

Know, terrifying to prince, Oh my.

Speaker 1

God, No, how old were you, I don't know, older than most people would have thought.

I guess, oh, yeah, you.

Speaker 2

Weren't like twenty two or something.

Speaker 1

Well, yeah, yeah, I was like probably yeah, something like sure, sure, that's what I would have thought.

That's what I thought.

And were you scared to audition for that one?

No, because I had this like weird confidence of dancing.

I used to love to dance, but I was not a dancer.

I was just like prom semi proms music on in your room dance.

I had no formal training.

So a lot of the a lot of the people that went out for that had a lot more formal training, but you felt confident.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

See, that's how when I met you, you seemed supremely confident.

Speaker 1

Oh my gosh.

When I went onto the set of Sex in the City, I was like, I always describe it as this like double jutch, you know, jump roping.

Yeah.

And then I, who was a band at the time, it really had no experience, only had maybe two small independent films under my belt.

Jumping into your Sex in the City world, it was like, you bet, you better stay on beat, you know.

Speaker 2

And you did, and well you really did, you really did.

This is the thing that I think, And this is what the joy of looking back is, you know, after all this time, because I have my memories right and there of course filtered through whatever was going on with me at.

Speaker 1

The time and that day and whatever.

Speaker 2

But when you look back, I mean, you have one line in the first episode, but you are so present.

First of all, you're so beautifully cast.

But second of all, you're so present and you' I've read your interviews where you you know, I had to look back at what you've said, what you've been on record saying whatever, And you said, no one told me the plan, No what I don't know if the plan was formed and I don't know either.

I wish I had time to call Michael Patrick, but he's working on a different show right now.

Speaker 1

But it didn't.

Speaker 2

I think what happened because this was the time when we were starting to trust ourselves and our writers were starting to trust themselves.

I don't know if the plan was what it was.

I think you showed up and you were so incredible that the plan became the plan.

Speaker 1

Wow, okay, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2

Because you were, like, first of all, the way you looked incredible, but second of all.

Speaker 1

You're funny because when I see myself in that first scene, yeah, that's not what I see.

I see like, oh my god, can you not smile so much?

Like I don't know what Chris was saying to me, But I don't know.

Was it really that funny?

I'm not sure, But I mean it's just such a masterile, right, And then you have Carrie, you, Sarah Jessica Parker coming up and looking the way she looks, and it's quite something.

It was quite something.

Yeah, I mean, how good was that outfit?

Oh my god?

Incredible?

Speaker 2

And now there's still like all the youngsters are trying to trying to recreate it.

Yeah, and It's funny because at the time, right me, I'm Southern and you know, I'm conservative Charlotte, and I remember thinking like, what is she worrying?

Oh my god?

And those are the amazing ones now, you know.

And also she looked, I mean, she could go none wrong.

But this is what was so great about you and you're casting and your vibe, Like it's really a vibe thing of one line, So it's not really about the line, but the way that you are with him, the way that you look with him, the fact that you're so obviously charmed by him, like you don't even need lines.

It's like a punch to the gut for her and for all of us because we're with her right and you have you know, like a you're so much the opposite of her in terms of I feel like you're equally amazing in the opposite opposite way.

You know, you're cool where she hot and complicated, you're cool and collected.

Speaker 1

And it was like it was like Big had his perfect woman and two women yeah, like you know, doing everything he needed, but from two different people.

Speaker 2

I agree totally, and also two totally polar opposites, which then makes you think about him I'm thinking about big.

I don't know if my listeners are sick of it yet, but like for me, and I've told them this before.

Speaker 1

When I started, I would just.

Speaker 2

See things as Charlotte saw them.

I wasn't complicated enough to think, like, what do I think about this script?

Is Kristen?

And then oh, but I'm gonna play Charlotte.

I was just in it, you know.

And also we were going so fast back in the day.

I remember the hours were so insane.

I mean, I don't know how much you remember.

Speaker 1

But well, I wasn't there all the time, right, I would kind of like drop in and drop out and yeah.

So but I mean we were all night.

You guys were working all night.

And that was again my first audition because I'm a very on time person, which means half an hour early.

I'm always early, yeah, And so I was at the audition early obviously, and I had other auditions that day, so I had I was like, I'm going to get in and out on this.

And then they were running late and running late and running late, and I'm calling my agents.

I'm like, guys, I have to go to the other one, and they're like, stay for this.

You need to stay for this.

I'm like, I can't be late for the next one, and I was really I kind of want to be late.

I get and then I was feeling like, why are you late?

And it was one line, it was nice to meet you, right, that was the one audition line that I was waiting an hour to say.

But we're but obviously so worth it.

Speaker 2

But then, so what do you remember, Like how did it unfold for you?

So you get hired for the one episode theoretically, right, like just one one?

Speaker 1

Yeah, and what happened next?

You remember?

No, of course not.

It was just just like, oh, and then they want you back.

But it was just it was casual, kind of like it was a casual and are you available?

Sure?

Great?

And that was it.

But I do think I don't know how many episodes I actually was in.

Someone should find that out.

I don't think it was many.

But because she was spoken about so much, Yeah, she's a much bigger character than whatever appeared on air one hundred percent.

Speaker 2

I saw that you had said that interview, and I thought that this is very, very true.

But I also think that you don't give yourself enough credit because when you are there, you have such a power and a resonance, you know, if it had been someone with less like kind of presence and groundedness.

You have a very grounded on screen presence, which I think has has proven true.

And you're very career, very long and amazing career, fourteen seasons of Blue Blood.

Like it's incredible, right because you're very very grounded, intelligent present, and it's such a beautiful woman that's very powerful.

Speaker 1

I don't know, if you know, I'm gonna hang out with you more often, definitely.

It's my job to analyze these things.

Speaker 2

And this is what I see so and I think at the time, and this is what I remember and feel really horribly guilty about because I was so in it, you know, and I was obviously Charlotte is like this fiercely loyal friend that's one of her big things and believes in love but also believed in big and Carrie.

You know, I was very pro big Carrie.

Charlotte was very pro big for Carrie, right until you weren't exactly and then I really really was.

Speaker 1

Which I did see that episode recently and I was like, how many friends do that?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Which we are you talking about?

Speaker 1

How many friends say?

What are you doing this is horrible.

You should not be having an affair, right.

Thank god you're the other woman.

How would you like it if this was happening to you, like you really you let her have it.

You gave her the slip side of things.

Thank god, Thank god.

Speaker 2

Charlotte does have like a moral compass that is going to be you know, in action when things get to the nitty gritty, right, like like she might be kind of vague and hopeful, and then all of a sudden, if you're there, she's like, you know, I believe in marriage, and what are you doing?

Speaker 1

Which thank god?

Speaker 2

But I mean, I mean, there's so much talk to you about.

But one of the things, I just want to confess this thing to you.

So at the time that you came right, First of all, let me say this.

You know you're referring to all these auditions.

I was in New York before I got the show, but right when I got out of college, and I would audition like twelve times a day or whatever.

And I did that in la as well, just bam, bam, bam.

Some would be commercial, someone would be you know, guest star, all the indie different things, right, which I assume you were also in the mix.

Yeah, I am ninety nine percent sure I sat waiting rooms with you.

Speaker 1

I'm sure we did, but we didn't even know.

Speaker 2

Now it's insane to think about, right, And so for me, I was like, Oh, there's that beautiful woman and she's so tall, she's gonna get it.

Speaker 1

Like that.

Speaker 2

That's how I felt, you know what I mean, like because it would just be all models.

Speaker 1

Yeah, remember those days, Yes, yes, for the hair commercial, yes, all of it all.

Speaker 2

And then sometimes at the commercial auditions, they'd make you go in there and dance.

Do you remember this space?

Speaker 1

I don't.

I just maybe.

Speaker 2

I mean, but you were so many things you felt confident dancing.

Speaker 1

It's a weird.

Auditioning is weird, awful.

I think it's gotten weirder though over the years.

Speaker 2

I mean now it's on tape, you do it in your house, not bizarre.

Speaker 1

I know.

Speaker 2

I feel like I would have not better at that than in person.

In person, I would just shut down.

Speaker 1

And I prefer going in you too, into the audition with people and casting directors who have read the script and have better lighting and who can work with you.

I mean, casting directors are amazing, that's true, that's true.

We don't get to see them anymore.

Speaker 2

I guess I don't even understand what's happening now.

I don't even get it.

I don't even which.

Speaker 1

Is why we're here in this dark room.

Speaker 2

Exactly exactly exactly.

Speaker 1

But luckily we have a whole career that we can talk about.

That's right.

Speaker 2

So it's all good, it's all good, Okay, So I want to go back to this thing that I have to confess to you.

So you came, and I remember, you know, we read the scripts, right, and we're like, you know, oh no, he's good.

Come with this.

Speaker 1

Girl, And I mean, we hear facts about you.

Speaker 2

He met you in Paris, your character Natasha, he met you in Paris, you know, in our mind in the Sex and City world of the characters, he's gone to Paris and she's trying to move on.

She thinks he's still in Paris, right, which is why it's such a shock.

At the party, Yeah, at the party in the Hampton's, the rodeo party in the Hampton's, bizarre Yeah, and you know, all of us are just like horrified.

And I remember at some point and I don't think it would have been this episode because I think we filmed that party in far Rockaway.

Do you remember this, but.

Speaker 1

Somewhere I remember.

I was in the trailer for a really long time because it was a long day.

There was so much going on, and then I had to go out into this massive party.

Yes, it was scary for me.

I'm sorry.

How could it not be scared?

Speaker 2

Yes, And this is what I want to say.

Normally, what I would do for guest star people.

Speaker 1

Which were usually men, I would go and.

Speaker 2

Try to kind of proactively be friendly because it is such a scary situation.

But because you were like.

Speaker 1

The nemesis, yes, I don't think nobody was taking to me.

I feel really bad about that.

Bridge.

Oh it's okay now, I know, but.

Speaker 2

I feel really bad because like we were all young, yish, you know what I mean, and like you were new, and I just feel bad.

Speaker 1

I don't worry, okay.

But then but then we were run into each other at the gym all the time, and.

Speaker 2

That's yeah, that was much later, and that was really feeling.

Speaker 1

So nice to me.

She was not nice to me at the rodeo party.

Speaker 2

Well, I'm glad that I had a chance, because by then we weren't in our characters anymore.

Speaker 1

And I could just be like.

Speaker 2

A nor normal person, thank god.

Yeah, but I have always felt really guilty about it because I didn't even really realize how much I had internalized Charlotte's worldview.

You know what I'm saying, Like I was more forgiving of things.

I don't even want to get into it, but like that, you know people who played parts would.

Speaker 1

Do or whatever that Charlotte loved, sure what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

And then I was less forgiving, you know, if you were somebody that I felt like, was you know, threatening my friend or whatever.

And it's like so silly, really, and I feel.

Speaker 1

Bad, No, no, but it's so it's so interesting the things that we look back on and yeah, I have to say since then, like when we when I came back for and just like that, it was such a nice reunion, right, you know, it was so so nice to see you.

Speaker 2

I mean time and distance and getting to kind of immaturity, Yeah, maturity and growth and you know, getting to play the same characters, but yet having that growth within the characters, even though we're still kind of supporting Carrie and her insane ideas of that episode.

But that's also what I love, like Carrie is a flawed character, as all of us were flawed.

Characters are flawed characters because people are flawed and complicated.

One of the things I wanted to ask you about because I have seen over the years that you've commented that people, meaning fans at times, would give you a hard time.

You bridget a hard time for playing Natasha.

Speaker 1

Even though you did nothing wrong, right, you mean, like like because they all love Big and Carrie together and somehow I was in the way.

That's so much.

Speaker 2

Fair, Like what would they say to you?

Speaker 1

What did you say?

Speaker 2

How did you feel?

Speaker 1

I think I actually said out loud sometimes like no, she was having an affair with my husband.

Let's break this down.

Good for you.

And I don't know how you watched those episodes where she's sneaking, I mean sneaking to the hotel room.

I mean it's extreme and it's so not feel like, what are you doing, especially when the hotel rooms got worse, I know it was like super swanky and then like kind of suspect.

Yes, No, I'm just saying you didn't.

You didn't root for her to stay on that path.

Speaker 2

I mean, how could you?

I remember though, And this again is me being Charlotte.

Obviously Charlotte didn't really know at the time, but like we were pro Big and her like it is bizarre and interesting.

But then I also read an interview where you say something to the effect of you know Big was in love with her meaning Carrie, And I mean, it is so complicated, right, but this is how life is.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

People are complicated and messy, and obviously they have a whole messy thing for so long.

It's messy for so long.

Yeah, But I also think as a friend, like, why wasn't I like, this is messy for so long?

Speaker 1

I think you were.

Speaker 2

I guess I did at times at times.

But then I think, also when you see your friend who just can't move on or can't get out of that cycle or whatever it is, what do you do?

You know, what do you do?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 2

Like, yeah, you.

Speaker 1

Don't want to, you have to I guess support.

Speaker 2

Right, I think you do.

I think you do, and you have to try to be there for them as they're going through it or whatever it is.

But I also have this other personal memory I want to share with you.

I was in an elevator with you, yes, at some point, yes, in between the films and and just like that, and I knew that there had been so at one point we wanted to do a third movie.

Yes, and in that third movie, Natasha was in it.

Yes, did I tell you that?

Yes?

Speaker 1

Okay?

Speaker 2

Because I know I wanted to and I couldn't remember if I had the nerve.

Speaker 1

To spit it out.

I wonder, did you tell me?

And then I ended up never getting the call or did you tell me you were.

Speaker 2

Because we were supposed to do it and then it wasn't good and then there was no third I moved so bad, but I put me in and just said that.

But I think, well, I didn't know that was coming obviously, right, because we're just we take so many turns in this thirty year long journey.

Speaker 1

Yes, but I because.

Speaker 2

I saw you, and I thought to myself because in my mind also by that point, having some space from being in it, I realized, oh, poor Natasha really suffered and has had no like kind of closure and like credit paid, you know, but that's what the scene was going to be, which you kind of got in and just like that, but it was a bit different in the movie that didn't happen.

Speaker 1

And I just wanted you to.

Speaker 2

Know that you have been in our collective writer's mind in terms of wanting you to have that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that would have been fun, I know, but it was still fun.

Speaker 2

It was fun when it happened, and it happened in a different way, but thank god it happened because it was kind of left in such a weird way, you know what.

Speaker 1

I But it was so sweet.

When Michael Patrick King called, He's like, I want to pitch something to you and just let me know if you would be open to it, and I'm like, yes, it would be like I don't know what you could just say, I just want you sitting at a table and I would have been yes, said, I would have brought him coffee on set.

It doesn't matter, like just a good part of the world again, was just an honor.

Speaker 2

I'm so glad.

Speaker 1

I'm so glad you felt that.

Speaker 2

I think for us, we feel guilty that we hadn't like kind of done you justice, you know, you slash Natasha, and so I think that's why he felt like you might not you know, want to, but we really really wanted you to, and we're so happy.

Thanks.

I'm so happy that you did.

Okay, let's go back in time again because I'd love to hear about like the things that people remember or don't or whatever.

So you go on two auditions you end up getting Coyote Ugly and Sex and the City.

Yeah, of course you have no way of knowing that Sex and the City will go on to be this big, massive thing, right, But Coyote Ugly I think everyone thought was going to be a big thing.

Speaker 1

Well, that was also another another moment of me like not knowing what I was getting into, and that was the Jerry Bruckheimer world.

I had no idea who I live under a rock.

Let's just call it Richard.

I really do like, I don't respect it.

I don't pay attention to things that I don't need to pay attention to.

So and I guess I should have paid attention to Jerry Berkrimer was.

Speaker 2

But a pretty big deal.

Speaker 1

He's a pretty big deal.

And I was a new young actor and I don't think I understood the machine that he was and how he makes careers.

And he was he's a major.

He just makes hits, right, And I think the nice thing about not really knowing that is that you're just treating each audition as it all means the same, right, it's all an exploration of a character, and you're all you're just going out.

There's no pressure, there's no like ones better than the other, Right.

Speaker 2

You don't know the pressure.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and you can't You can't ever rely on that.

How many times have you done a pilot that you think, oh, of course it's got these actors, these producers, this network behind it, and then it actually never goes anywhere.

You know, people have whole careers doing that.

Absolutely, so you can't ever know what's going to be a hit or not.

No, no, no, so yeah, I remember that was like everyone wanted that job.

I didn't know that, but I remember seeing the billboard on that building on Sunset Boulevard when you're you're heading I believe east, and it's right on Sunset before Losianaga, and it's huge, huge, and all of us were on it.

Speaker 3

I was like, oh, okay, that's kind of what when I figured out that that was going to be bigger than what I you know, because we were just in it.

Speaker 1

We were just you know, but that's learning to dance and learning to bartend and just working out with ur Again.

Speaker 2

I love it, And did you you went to the real place?

I assume and did the research because I remember all that.

I was sober by that point, so I was like, I'm going to stay away from that place.

But I do feel like somehow I ended up there.

Did we film there?

Maybe?

I don't know.

Speaker 1

I'm sure you felt.

I'm sure you feel they did.

But I think I was going there socially prior to yeah, because you were very cool, Well you were.

I just maybe was out later than I should have been.

Oh listen, and I lived in the neighborhood.

Yeah, I mean you live in the life.

Yeah, this was the probably like a diner now or a Bubby's or a store or a store, you know what I mean, probably.

Speaker 2

Like the right right, Yeah, because Bubbies moved, which is interesting.

Yeah, Bubbies, Yeah, Bubbies with the pie.

You guys were going to reminisce.

Speaker 1

Now, okay, so let's go back.

Speaker 2

You did the short little one episode with us second season, then you go off, you do Coyote Ugly, then you come back there's season okay, and did they just yes, you did.

They would just call you for and say like, are you available?

So you were just doing one by one?

Speaker 1

Yeah, it was just a day lare.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, wow, that's insane.

Speaker 1

And every time Chris Nouth would be like, Hi, nice to meet you, They're like, dude, and your wife, yes, Chris.

Speaker 2

Oh my god, that is classic.

Speaker 1

Wow wow wow, Okay, well I love Chris.

I mean, and then like years later we bump into each other in California and he's like, and there's my wife.

I'm like, you couldn't remember I was your wife when I was your wife or now I'm not.

No, I'm not your wife.

Speaker 2

That's very Chris.

That's a very Chris story.

Yes, Chris was was like weirdly in the moment in weird ways, you know what I'm saying.

The thing that that occurs to me that I want to talk to you about.

I mean, it's funny because we're rewatching this one episode, but you have one line which is adorable, but you really do it is just such a powerfully horrible scene.

Really, like even rewatching it all these years later.

Speaker 1

I mean, the one.

Speaker 2

No, I'm going to get to that one.

That one also, you know, the one where she sees you together for the first time, the rodeo slash beach party.

I mean, I think because we absolutely do not see it coming, right, everyone thinks BIG's in Paris.

We have no idea she's been trying to move on with.

And she's flirting with that guy, the doctor, the doctor who's good on paper, which of course means it's not good in general.

No offense, but you know everyone knows that.

Speaker 1

But I think that's pretty clear.

Speaker 2

But the thing that I also think is so interesting about the episode is is kind of because I'm trying to pretend Charlie's briend, trying to pretend that she's in her twenties, there's an innocence.

Speaker 1

About the episode.

Speaker 2

You know, we're at the beach, it's like younger girls and all kind of people are around, and we don't see it coming at all.

You think it's just going to be kind of like a crazy party episode.

You know, Charlotte gets crabs from this guy that she goes out with, which is mortifying and brilliant and mortifying, and then all of a sudden it ends with this, you know, basically a tragedy for Carrie, which is that she looks over she sees your goddess young self laughing as you say, and literally you could have said nothing, it didn't matter, just you standing.

Speaker 1

There with him laughing and him laughing with you because he seems so different with you.

Speaker 2

Yeah, because with Carrie he's very kind of stern and yes, like kind of covered and manipulative or whatever, and with you he just seems kind of relaxed and giggly, kind of like who is that?

So just the vision, and Sarah plays it so beautifully, like you just feel her, you know, her heart just you know, oh the awful And then she tries to kind of like, hey, how are you what are you doing here?

And he says all kinds of stupid things, you know, and then you very politely say nice to meet you, and excuse yourself because you can see and this is what I mean about you being just so grounded and good, like you can see in your eyes you oh no.

You also say Carrie, I've heard so much about you, which is also so devastating.

Yeah, like he's told you about her awful, beautiful.

Speaker 1

But I do feel like there's a look that mister Big it's I don't know how to say, mister Big.

Speaker 2

It's cool you said it.

Speaker 1

Mister Big gives to Carrie when they're alone, and he's like, I was gonna call you like there.

It was so touching and moving and like heartbreaking a little bit that, yeah, but also Ken, I know, but I like make it you kind of I don't know.

I mean, yes, yes it was.

It wasn't cold, it wasn't like he wasn't sure he was he was sorry.

Well maybe I thought for him, for him, I did.

Speaker 2

I did not feel for him, not one iota in my rewatching.

I'm sure I did at the time, Right in my rewatching, I think, like, what a fucking apple?

Well, yes, like, come on, look at her there, so fantastic, just devastated, you know, just like wound the heart, and you, you know, so beautiful and cool and calm and poised.

You know, you're so poised and polite that you excuse yourself because you can see that there's you know, unfinished business something something going on.

And also he told you about her, right, what did he even tell you about her?

It's so well written, obviously the writers are incredible, but so well reacted by all three of you in terms of the unspoken moments there, which is to me why you then became this part, you know, And it reminds me a little bit of Kyle.

When we hired Kyle to play my Trey McDougall.

He was supposed to do.

I believe.

I have to ask him.

I believe he was supposed to do five episodes.

And the idea was that he was supposed to be you know, Charlotte is now like, I'm going to get married.

I'm going to get married.

I'm going to get married like a broken record.

And then she meets him in the street and of course he looks like he looks dream a dream, and she's like, oh my god, I found him, and everything is perfect on the outside, not so perfect in the relationship, but she's still going to make it work.

And the idea originally had been that he would be very annoying, that his character would be very annoying, would be very good looking but very annoying, that no one would want to talk to him.

So there's a scene on the boat with Chris, Sir, Jessica, Carrie Big Me and Kyle, and I'm supposed to be laughing at all of his jokes.

They're supposed to be terrible, and the two of them are supposed to be like, oh God, he's awful, what are we going to do?

But he was Kyle, he was so charming, he couldn't be not cheering, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1

So we just shifted the writing.

Speaker 2

You know, he was supposed to last five episodes.

It was not supposed to work out, and then he was supposed.

Speaker 1

To be gone.

And how long was he on?

Speaker 3

For?

Speaker 1

Years?

Like I can't even I don't know, three years years?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Like we got married, we try to have a baby.

It's there's still problems the whole time, but Charlotte is persistent, She's going to make it work, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1

And he's Kyle.

Speaker 2

We had to write leave the part about him being annoying, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1

And everybody liked him.

Speaker 2

Yes, we were all collectively completely infatuated with him.

How could you not be?

Yeah, I think that's also what happened with you.

Speaker 1

And I'm going to go.

Speaker 2

Get to the bottom of it with Michael Patrick.

But like I think you showed up and everybody's like like the light bulbs just you know, it's just perfect.

Speaker 1

That's what I think happened.

It was well, it was it was a gift that kept giving.

I'm so glad.

Now, what was that like for you?

Speaker 2

Like, Okay, coyote ugly comes out and then you're still coming back on the show.

You were doing so many different things.

That's how I remember it.

What what was your experience?

I don't know.

Speaker 1

I think at that time I had fully just I had this perception that you couldn't model and be an actress.

So I put all the modeling aside and just focused on acting.

And so I wasn't really I mean, you do you do, you know, shoots for promotional things and everything, but you are your actor self, a.

Speaker 2

Magazine cover you, right, not the model sun You were talking and you.

Speaker 1

Know, talking, you know what I'm saying, talking, Yeah, yeah, So I think, yeah, it wasn't fun.

I feel like I was doing a lot of a lot of films at that time.

I think so too.

Speaker 2

I think you were really busy, and I think we were just lucky to be still getting you.

Speaker 1

You know, I think I was.

Yeah, it was a whirlwind.

It was a whirlwind.

It was like those two projects at the same time.

Really just the momentum went.

Speaker 2

Absolutely And I love to ask people this because it's not always what you think, Like, did it was it what you thought it would be?

Did it make you happy?

Was it overwhelming?

What was it like to have that momentum?

Speaker 1

I don't know if I ever thought about what it was.

I didn't go up.

Speaker 2

You know, yeah, you didn't analyze it.

Speaker 1

I didn't analyze it.

I always felt so fortunate to get the projects that I got, and I you know, I was working with you know, Beneffleck and al Pacino and like Colin Ferrell and just like a lot of good projects that were challenging me in different ways.

So you were rolling with it.

I was rolling with it.

And it was just like when you step back and think, while this this happened, like it is wild?

Is it is totally wild?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 1

But I think I think as a and I see some of the young like like Sweeney, what's her name, Sydney Sidney Sweeney, I'm just like, I'm watching her and it's just so fantastic the success that she's having.

And at the same time, you just hope that she can maneuver because when you and I were coming up, it was not what it is now as far as social media and the attention, the paparazzi and the lack of privacy and all that, especially the commentary and the commentary, well, yes, I mean I.

Speaker 2

Would say like for Sarah Jessica, the lack of privacy was a problem, especially when she got pregnant, like they you know, I was so worried about her every single day.

They chased her so relentless.

Speaker 1

I can't imagine horrific, horrific when she's pregnant.

Speaker 2

That was when I really thought, like, I don't I don't want that.

I don't want that.

No, I don't want that at all.

And she didn't want that, but she didn't have a choice at that point, you know, so I think we had our own version.

I think now the thing that's weird and different and problematic is the there's so much negative input on social media.

Yet social media is also really important, so it's hard to just totally ignore it, you know, in many ways.

I mean, there are people who do, and more power to them obviously, Yeah, but like like for her age, for that group, it's like it's a it's a way that they communicate, you know, it's part of their lives, right, and then to have things go, you know, in the crazy ways that they go.

I mean, she doesn't add campaign and then people freak out, right, like.

Speaker 1

I thought it was brilliant, right, and also that's not her idea, No, you know what I mean, but I do love like this generation knows how to use it as a tool and embrace it in ways that I I was just behind on and not comfortable with.

Speaker 2

I mean, look, we all are.

It's weird for us, right, Like I struggle.

I struggle myself.

I try to do it because I have this podcast and you know whatever, and it is like it is a whole business now really, But I get young people to help me out because I don't know, like the idea for us in our generation of just inviting people in your house to film you.

Speaker 1

That's weird.

Yeah it's still weird, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2

Like it's a strange thing, but I think if you grew up with it, it's not weird at all.

Right, So it is one of those generational issues obviously, but it is super fascinating to watch.

I feel for the young people because I feel like we all had a level of you know, bizarre scrutiny.

Obviously, you were in the modeling industry.

It's not an easy industry to come.

It might have been actually been easier to leave modeling and go to acting.

Speaker 1

What was your perception, Yeah, well I think that I struggled in the modeling because I had maybe opinions, sure, other things that I needed to express, and you didn't have that avenue in that and then.

But that's part of the part of the reason why I don't watch my material afterwards is because I don't want to get judgmental or nitty gritty on how I'm looking, because to me, that's not the point.

Absolutely, so I don't want to go down that route.

Speaker 2

I agree, that's brilliant, super smart.

Speaker 1

So and it's hard for me as a because I've started directing over the last you know, four years, and to have to direct yourself is very bizarre because you don't want to be paying attention to your own performance or how you're looking, so you rely on other people.

But then you don't have the eye the same I and you would have been maybe adjusting things whatever.

But I have incredible respect for actors who can do it so well, like Bradley Cooper.

Oh my god, like, how how down to that man and his talent?

I agree, in front of and behind the screen absolutely yeah, so I know, I know affleck yeah.

Also, how do we do it?

You said a fluck?

He I know, but it sounded like the commercial.

Speaker 2

Oh sorry, sorry, sorry, Ben.

Speaker 1

F Ben yeah, he does a great job.

He does a great job.

Speaker 2

So when you went to Blue Bloods, so you did.

Oh John Wick, I mean one of.

Speaker 1

My another gifts that just kept giving.

Incredible and so great.

I always love to see you.

Speaker 2

If I'm on a plane and I've seen everything that's on the plane and John Wick's there, I'll rewatch old John Wick and I always love to see you.

Speaker 1

So great, so great, Keanu, I know a dream Creamy.

He's on Broadway beyond.

I know.

Speaker 2

It's incredible, it's incredible.

I mean, it's just so great to be a part of our industry for so long, so long.

Speaker 1

And I went to the last I met you.

Speaker 3

Oh you can talk about him if you want, but I met you.

Speaker 1

It was it was fun that I went to the premiere and he's like, can you believe we've been doing this for ten years?

I was like, what ten years?

He's like, yeah, the first time we did this shoot was ten years ago.

It's like, wow, that is incredible.

It's incredible.

It's a joy, you know, what a joy, and like for you to be on this show for as long as you have been, and then you know, I had the blessing of Blue Bloods as well.

So it's just, you know, it is We're so lucky.

We're so lucky.

Speaker 2

We're incredibly lucky.

Now, you did fourteen seasons of blue Blood.

Speaker 1

Fourteen seasons.

Yeah, and we did have a lot of the crew from Sex and the City.

I know, yeah, we took them.

Speaker 2

I know.

I'm glad because I mean because they had a good job.

It was good.

Yeah, but wonderful, wonderful crew members.

And then so blue Blood is ended and there's some kind of spin off something what's happening?

Speaker 1

There's a spin off called Boston Blue Got It with Donnie got It?

Speaker 2

Got It?

Speaker 1

And yeah, so do you go on there?

Are you going to go on there?

Yes?

Speaker 2

Cool?

Speaker 1

Yes, So that keeps on giving as well.

That keeps on giving, and I'm directing on that.

So that's great.

How fine.

When did you start directing on blue Bloods?

Yeah?

On Blue Bloods?

Speaker 2

Do you love it?

Speaker 1

I definitely enjoy it.

I like being on that side of the camera.

I like working with actors, I like participating with all the different departments.

It really just like revived my interest in the business to be you know, just getting just to another layer and another layer and another layer.

Yeah, it's it was great.

Does it get boring for you just to be acting now?

Well, I haven't really.

I mean we just finished the show like a year ago, got it, and I did, you know, a couple of projects after that.

But I've got a team, you know, I've got a kid who's graduating from high school soon.

So I'm kind of lame.

Oh my god, you have a lot to do.

I'm just in the mom work, leaning into that yes and then congratulation, yeah, thanks, and then directing on this.

So we'll see, we'll see.

But you know, the business itself.

Speaker 2

Is coming through ohs.

Speaker 1

Metamorphosis, and so it continues, and it continues.

But I think, you know, it will be really nice to I've been working NonStop since high school in one career, you know, like in credible after high school.

So it's like, this is the first time I've had a like nice conscious break.

That's nice.

So it's been nice.

Speaker 2

That's so nice.

I think it's so important because you can't really reflect on things if you're just going, going, going, going, But I also think in our jobs, going, going, going is a huge blessing and you're aware of that, you know, it's.

Speaker 1

A huge blessing, and but you know it's I don't know.

I feel like it's been a blessing.

But then while you're in the circus of moving from project to project and doing all these things, like your your concept of time is oh yeah, that was season three or oh yeah one Africa on that show, right, you know your timetable is chunks of time with the poster in mind.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely I do.

And yeah, so.

Speaker 2

It's hard for me with the podcast to people will say, well, when did this happen?

In my mind everything is reorganized, not as reality, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

You don't.

Speaker 2

I'm not a linear date date person or whatever I'm trying to be because I have to be now.

And sometimes I'll see an episode I'll think, well, I thought that was in season five.

Speaker 1

In season one, Like it's wacky, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

But I mean it's kind of fun in a way too, because I do think one of the joys of what we do is that you're not in one setting at all times, like a right job, you know, we have just infinites.

Speaker 1

Every day is a new day, right.

Speaker 2

Interest and change and novelty, and you know, sometimes occasionally it's difficult, right, but often it's really a joy.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2

It is so much fun having Bridget moynihan here.

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