Yeah, I noticed that sometimes if there's something I'm trying to put out there that like something doesn't want others to know about, it will give me an issue.

And then it's like, I know I got to do it even more.

So, well, I mean, not to get too thick in the weeds before we even start talking, but what just happened is that I was working on an episode that I had recorded last week and I did like 5, maybe six hours of.

Editing on it.

Because I do put quite a bit of work into the post production and I hit save and it was fine.

Like I had been working on this same file open on the computer for three days no problem.

And then I went to take the like portion of the conversation and move it into the bed where I have all my kind of intro outro stuff laid out.

And when I did that, it just like wasn't functioning.

It wouldn't let me copy paste.

So I thought, oh, that's weird.

And I decided to shut down the program and open it again, as you would do in that circumstance.

And I opened the program again and they have like, you know, the open recent tab.

So I go to the open recent, click on the name of the file, in this case it's Hannah.

And it just gives me this.

Weird error message I've never seen.

Which is like the file extension is not recognized.

And so I'm like, well, this is strange.

And I go into the file folder portion of my Mac.

I can see the Hannah dot AUP file 13 gigabytes there it is there's that huge audio file I've been working on it's right there I'm looking at it in the file folder.

I see the two companion files that go with it.

I try to open it nothing just like this.

The connection between that file type and then the audio software was broken.

And so I'm like, OK, let me download the latest version of the audio software.

I do.

I quickly realized I had the latest audio software version.

So there was no update done.

This version number is exactly the same as before I updated.

And so I go to try to open the file and now that file is just gone.

Like gone.

And that happened in the 1520 minutes before we spoke.

Wow, that's crazy.

Yeah.

And then as I went to so I, you know, I'm, as we're speaking, I'm using the same software and you know, fingers crossed because it has worked every time for the past couple of years.

But I've had really weird instances where the audio will not function or will will turf.

And that conversation with Hannah was pretty profound.

And it often will occur like when the conversations are more meaningful or a little bit more exciting or something.

And I don't really know what to make of that, but.

Yeah, I know I had a near death experience and it like electronics go all weird with me a lot like I like I said, I have issues like that where, you know, even on like TikTok my I do the solar, it's a Schumer Resner's report basically like what's going on with the sun.

And then we're having a lot of solar flare activity, which can cause issues with like electronics and stuff like that.

But I've had instances the same way where it's I'm I'm like when I tried to do the captions in the video it came up with this whole message was nothing what I said.

It's just so many weird things are happening right now.

Well, I take.

It as a good sign, but it is extremely frustrating.

I mean with recording and editing.

I was probably 8 hours into that piece of work and I had just.

You know, you just go, you go in a linear fashion.

So I had started at the start of the conversation, work my way through it all, you know, taking out all the little lip smacks or points where we accidentally spoke over each other and stuff like that.

And, and I got to the end, which is like this interesting logical progression of like I finished, I hit save.

This is exactly what I do every time.

And then there's that breaking or that like changing, which if you're left alone with it, it can be an invalidating thing.

You're like confused.

But if you look at it in context, I look at it like one of two things.

It's either sort of like Hannah's conversation is not meant to be shared as is and the Fabian how they are, are going to, of course, let me go all the way to the finish line before they turf it because they're tricksters.

Little mother motherfuckers like they are.

Depending on which ones you're working.

Yeah, I got one around that's pretty like this is going to sound out there, but maybe not to you.

So we'll find out what your tolerance is for strange stuff here in a second.

But there's this gnome.

Like a resident gnome in the podcast Grimble Grumble.

And he's pretty.

Like jealousy.

So if other Faye that are real are being spoken about, this is his calling card.

Oh yeah, definitely.

I work with like other energies and if they're too powerful, like energies or deities, one can get jealous of the other almost.

It's like a weird thing, but I definitely get it.

Like there is in the energetically, there could be like, you know, jealousy.

It depends on the energy, I guess.

But Faye can be a jealous.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel you.

So just to fill that in a bit more like I'm.

This is talking to you probably puts me around episode 70, so 2 years of work on this.

I saw a ferry in 2019 aboard my boat with my girlfriend at the time, and before that I'd never had any interest in the subject matter.

I was not even remotely interested in paranormal stuff.

Like like any person.

I had heard of ghosts and Bigfoot, but I did not.

You know what I mean?

Like maybe on a Sunday when I was hungover, I'd watch a Bigfoot show or something.

But you know, it wasn't like.

You weren't like deep into.

The absolutely not spiritual.

Side of it.

All not whatsoever.

And then I did have a visual sighting of an illuminated light being in front of my very eyes and it boggles my mind to this day.

And you know, for four years I researched all I could to try to understand what that what the fuck that was.

Reluctantly kind of came to the conclusion that it was a fairy because of a lot of touch points.

You know, it was winged, it was diminutive, it that utterly magical like etcetera, etcetera.

This is maybe a fairy because nothing else really in the lexicon of available paranormal titles fit.

And then I started fascinating Faye because I was still not really that satisfied.

And there's not a ton of contemporary knowledge base on fairies.

It's all like folklore.

So I was like, where's the modern stuff?

I.

Think that information is coming up now because like our ancestors more present.

I'm Irish and Scottish so the fair part of the culture.

Like they won't even mow down a fairy Bush in Ireland.

They will literally change the road.

Yeah, I was about to say yeah.

You know, so, but then now I live in America and I try and explain like all those ways to my son and he's like fairy, they're bad girls.

I'm like, no, they're not, They're not.

But you know, he was eight or seven when I so I I explained it to him more and like, no, look like it's really part of her culture.

And then I follow something on social media.

She goes by Dana the alien or I forget her other name, but she goes into fairies and plasma and how they are probably plasma beings.

And I think we're going to see a lot more right now because of the solar flares spitting plasma at the Earth, right?

And even some of the solar flares are called Fae and they look like, yeah, I just recently I got like message that to you.

But she goes in depth about the mysticism of plasma, right?

So physically it could be happening.

You know, some people get the experience, others don't.

I guess it depends to how deep you go into spirituality.

But I mean, really, it's our ancestors coming back.

They want us to tap back into the ways that they had the cultural ways.

And fairies are part of the culture, so.

This is a really interesting perspective and I not to get too far ahead of ourselves because I want to save all this for when we talk for the episode because I like to do it, you know, fresh.

But I agree with so much of what you just said there.

I think it's a long like ancient race of beans and I think that they occupy a type of well, I mean, the word liminal is always tossed around even though I don't really like it.

But I would say that they they are coexisting with us within our energetic and existential plane, like where we know that things are real.

They can come into that, but they also have superseding powers that.

Extend beyond our linear 3 dimensional constraints.

They can definitely play tricks with time.

They can play tricks with space.

They can play tricks with objects and and yeah, physical items.

They can change your perception of place of sound of.

Smell of, touch of.

Yeah, like they have their own intelligence.

Like it's not just plasma.

It's like a they might come in through like through plasma, but they have their own.

It's just like, yeah, like I work with different deities and stuff like that.

It's like the same thing.

They're just different energy signatures, I would say.

Right.

Yeah, they definitely have an individualized signature.

And I would go so far as to say like in my encounters, which are growing all the time, there's a working logic that's starting to unfold.

Like the the whole idea that like one would turf another one's episode sounds like you've lost your marbles until you consider like what I think is actually the the back story there to help connect the dots is in Season 1.

There was some pretty amazing moments in season 1.

Like I would spoke spoke to one woman and a raccoon skull materialized between her feet while we were talking Sing raccoon skull.

I spoke to another woman and she was pulling tarot cards and putting them in front of her and three tarot cards changed from the ones that had been pulled out in front of her while we were talking.

So like some really wild moments.

And this was all the doing of this character.

Grimble Grumble this gnome I'm referring to, certainly it was because he was the focus of an arc in an episode structure around him and people were listening and getting extremely engaged.

And then he was essentially able to manifest more strongly due to this correctly and due to the pool of collective interest and focus on him, he was growing in strength.

So then as as the reality of his presence became more apparent to everyone listening, that again was like a a a snowball is getting larger and and more prominent as it went.

And this brought forward a lot more people who I think had been on the fence about talking to me, who equally have contact or equally have real stories.

And in the event where I talked to people who had pretty powerful or amazing stuff, I inevitably lost audio, lost sections of audio, and or was utterly prevented from laying audio down like the audio software is.

Open, I'm hitting the record button.

It is just not commencing to do what the software is designed to do.

Just like, you know, stuck like when you hit a just.

Having hiccups all over.

The everywhere dropped Internet connections and and then so I put the whole podcast series on the shelf for nine months and I just started back up recently.

I'm kind of episode 7 of season 2 and there's this one woman, Hannah.

From the first season, who I would say is like a super fan and she had this one really intense thing happened where like again, I'm trying to really tell you like this gnome.

Is.

Gets jealous.

And so at one juncture I was talking to a woman in the previous season and she was telling me this really powerful story about a fae and everything was going wrong.

I was fighting against it intensely.

I finally got the connection up and started to record again and then finally he knocked out the power in my whole building.

And this was a real event because the power was down unexpectedly in 19 units in the semicircle emanating from my center point, and the technicians were there for like 2 days trying to figure out what had affected the distribution of electricity in this building.

That's wild.

And so I put on HE.

Was like no.

Precisely.

And I put an episode out about it, and Hannah, this superfan, was listening to that episode in her home.

I was getting to the exact point where I talk about my power going out.

And the same thing happened in her building, down to the moment I said it.

Yeah, it's almost like you're opening up.

Or when people listen and engage and they believe he has a way to go to them too.

The woman I spoke to yesterday was Hannah, and that's she and I were recapping some of this high strangeness around her, like super fandom and the will, the way that it was manifesting in her experiences.

But she's also got her own, like, really strong Fae character that she knows by name and should.

We talked about that and that was a big part of the focus of the episode.

And then of course, I get to finish it and now it's gone.

And I do feel like that.

Oh, he was jealous that you guys were talking about another.

Yeah, I could see that.

I could see it.

Previously she had been a big like, like she had sent me a couple of audio clips that I had worked into the podcast that were definitely like her, you know, connecting to this grimble grumble energy and it manifesting in her house, which I do think was fueling him on some weird way that like, if they eat food, they eat your curiosity about them.

I guess.

Like, do you know what I mean?

Like if you're fascinated and curious, they get stronger.

I don't know how that works but.

Yeah, it's, it comes down to belief systems.

If you believe in him, it gives like kind of a kind of an opening, you know, it's not like a, a bad thing, but I've, you know, even with working with fairy energy, they can mess with you.

I mean, it really depends on what energy.

It's like people really just in, in an energy form, you know, they have such unique characteristics.

But I, I, I felt jealousy from even deities that I work with.

So I totally believe you.

Trust me.

Well, we're off to a good start then.

Anyway.

So my name is Jim.

You're Jen.

I'm originally from Canada.

I saw a fairy in 2019.

Before that, I didn't really give a shit.

I thought people who were interested in fairies were like Disney fans.

Really.

That's about as far as I went with that thought process.

But I've since learned quite differently and my own experience initially, and then the some of the things I just outlined for you, I mean that that's a huge trajectory of change for a guy like me, middle-aged white guy, you.

Know.

But.

Like totally woke you.

Up woke me up and I'm still not even close to done like figuring it out.

I'm so curious.

As to how it works well.

That's a lifelong process.

So and so, yeah, that's the purpose of my of the show is really just me in my own journey, reaching out to others.

The person you're speaking with earlier, Julia, she's my partner.

We work on the show together.

Oh, OK.

And it's just the labor of love.

We do it for free.

We don't monetize.

Fascinating, Faye, But we both have experienced enough super strange stuff that we're hooked, you know, so.

Yeah, no, I love it you having people talk more about spiritual experiences because that's what we have to do.

I mean, like I said, even fairies and Faye, that's they were, they are real because it's just the culture in America, I feel like in the Western world is like they don't get it.

A lot of people don't get it, but they're waking up to it now.

This is accurate.

When I saw that thing in 2019, I'm not exaggerating.

I did not find a single North American resource on ferries and I couldn't understand like if I saw a ferry in Canada, in British Columbia, Canada.

Is that wrong?

Like our ferries, just from the UK Like I just.

Oh no, they're energies.

So they'll come to the person like wherever they're supposed to be with it.

Yeah.

So they can be everywhere all at once.

Now you have a ancestral background to the UK, is that correct?

Yes, I I'm Irish and Scottish and German, but the Irish and Scottish, they're huge with the fae.

Like I said, that's it's actually part of our ancestry or mine.

That's why I try to explain my son like they're not fake.

You're thinking of you know, but it's trying to explain that to a little boy.

He's a little hard, but like he sees me doing.

I have a fairy door on my altar.

Like I bought a little fairy door from the dollar store and it's on my altar, right?

But it's only energies of love and light and they better not mess with me.

But you know it happens because it depends on the energy, so.

I.

OK, well we're off to a good start.

If it's OK with you, I'll just brief you on how the show goes and then we can start out of respect for your time.

It's pretty simple.

I just bring you on.

I introduce you anonymously.

So you're going to be Jen.

What part of America are you in?

You know what state?

OK, so Jen from New Jersey is how you're going to be introduced.

Now beyond that, if you want to, you know, drop any links or stuff, you're totally welcome to, for your practice, whatever you feel, you know, comfortable with.

But the, the general promises, I'll keep you anonymous if, unless otherwise, you want to reveal yourself.

I just give a brief introduction.

And really what I'm here to do is just listen to the things that are going on with you in relation to Faye.

I'm super interested in this near death experience because I've had one one of my own.

Oh, there you go.

That's initiation, Yeah.

Thanks for saying that.

It's yeah, I'm really interested to hear.

Yeah.

I'm now doubly interested to hear about yours, given that that was your off the cuff remark about a near death experience.

It is a type of initiation, you're right.

Oh.

Absolutely.

It's a big initiation, takes years to even like ground it back down.

But I'll tell you about it in the interview.

Mine was in childhood so I've been like this for a long time.

So basically the the setting is that you just have as much time and space to talk about whatever you feel is relevant to an understanding of your perspective on life and your experiences.

And that's the format of the show.

I jump in kind of towards the end of whenever you're naturally finished storytelling and ask questions that have come up because I'm curious.

After that portion of the show, we just get towards the end and I sign off.

Oh, OK.

Sounds like it's breaking up a little bit.

A little bit.

OK, yeah.

It's not like you record.

I know.

You know what, right before you like when to do that.

I heard it break up.

So yes, yes, wow, wow.

Right.

Oh, we're just skipping like chunks of time.

It's not recording it.

Yeah.

You know what, We're having a lot of solar flare activity right now, like I said.

So not only does it like it gives, it gives these energies more power kind of in a way, they're kind of more fueled so.

We're good now we're back to normal.

So let me try to describe to you what just happened and.

In with all good luck.

What we just experienced was captured.

So Audacity is a free audio software.

I use it all the time.

When you're speaking, you can see your wave form laying down.

It looks like an EKG kind of form.

So as you're speaking, you can visually see a wave form like a representation of your vocals.

And I said, OK, let's go to start.

And it glitched.

And then it's the audio input.

So when you think about input, what I mean is like normally I select the device that I want Audacity to be recording.

And in the everyday circumstance, I choose my microphone, my Samsung G Track Pro, the studio mic I'm talking to you on right now.

That is a physical selection that I make.

And that is what the software is doing.

You cannot change, it is impossible to change the input mid recording.

You have to stop the software hit stop right then you can change the input and then you can resume recording.

But you cannot change the input mid, mid recording.

It's not designed that way, first of all.

Second of all, it's switched over to now a different audio input, which is the one that you're speaking on.

You're speaking on a digital channel called Black Hole 2 Channel, and that's going to a separate piece of audio software that's recording you independently.

And when I look at the audio that just got recorded, what I see happening is this.

I'm talking on my microphone.

Suddenly for no reason, the same software that I'm recording myself on now is recording you.

And when I look at the audio settings, my microphone is the only thing selected.

So it is not selecting the channel that you're on, and the channel that you're on is not even visible in the in the selections.

So I don't know how on earth your audio got into Audacity and started recording, but I'm going to play it again because it's just too neat.

It's really crazy.

Like, really, really, really crazy.

Yeah.

I'm.

So that's confirmation that I'm right about what I was trying to share with you, which is that Grimble Grumble was jealous.

All right, OK, well, let me just get my bearings here.

So you're there speaking.

That's still recording.

Fine.

This little bit of magical audio flippage is saved.

And now I'm recording over here and it seems to be going.

I couldn't understand what I was looking at because my my waveform just stopped laying down.

Like if I go like this boop, bop, beep bop, I can immediately see it appear on the screen in front of me.

And while I was talking and I know I was talking, it just stopped.

And then your audio channel is now in there.

That is really an interesting trick of technology.

That kind of that kind of thing happens a lot actually during the start of episodes.

Yeah, that's what I when I was recording a video and the audio gave a whole message.

I was, it didn't do anything.

I was saying it just I share the message on TikTok because I'm like, I feel like this is a message that needs to be shared.

And it was pretty wild too.

So I don't know I these energies work through electronics so.

They actually do work through electronics.

I'm so glad to hear you say that because I firmly believe that and what I just experienced there is too strange like.

Yeah, it's probably confirmation from your little buddy.

It's absolutely confirmation from and I can feel him in.

Here right now.

Thick as Thieves because I get this weird unsettled feeling when he's about and it's disassociative, like I'm using my machine and then it's doing something beyond function, which is what I call it.

It's performing beyond function.

That's so wild.

There's a big there's a big button that says Audio setup and underneath it it says select audio device.

And then there's a drop down menu and it shows you, for example, the MacBook Air internal speaker.

And then that's, you know, 1 selectable that shows you my studio mic.

That's a second selectable.

Nowhere in there does it show black hole 2 channel because black hole 2 channel is a is this like if it to help you understand, I record my vocals in one program and I recorded your vocals in a separate program.

That way those two performances are totally separate.

If we accidentally speak over one another, I can fix that later.

You know, if there's sound on your end of a dog barking while I'm talking, I can remove it vice versa.

And so it's only my channel that did that spontaneously while I was looking at it, while I'm not touching anything.

It's extremely confirmatory that earlier I was having unexplainable problems and I just cannot like under score this enough.

Sorry to sound like a broken record, but it's just 'cause this just happened and I'm feeling a little Jarred.

There's, I've never seen that happened and it's not possible to happen like right now.

I'm talking to you.

OK, Do you hear this?

Click, click, click.

I'm trying to click the audio setup button to change the channel to something else other than my vocals that's being recorded and it won't let me even open it.

So they can do things that perform beyond function.

I've spoken to photographers who capture like really interesting stuff after the fact, like the photo is altered in post.

There's, I mean 1,000,001 examples of messages being received through phones, messages being received through radios, messages being received through Alexa's, messages being received through.

I mean, you pick it.

If it's got a circuit board and is connected to power source somehow the Fey can alter those things.

Yeah, absolutely.

That's even orbs and stuff.

We can't necessarily see them with their naked eye, but you pick them up on pictures or, or even, you know, you know, ghosts or something.

You can hear them in the background.

It's crazy because I guess it's just more sensitive, but they can also mess with it.

My theory is that like, because the electronics are essentially pieces of the earth at the, you know, most basic level, all those pieces.

They have a quartz crystal.

On them.

They have tungsten, they have minerals, they have, you know, they're basically made of the earth.

And the Faye are always in folklore, you know, described as figuratively and literally of the earth.

And so I wonder to what extent that's just as simple as it is.

It's like these objects are still magical and of the earth.

Yeah, I think it's the frequencies like they can.

It's because think of like, you know, why find all of that?

It's like the frequencies they're picking up on.

I mean come through now my mouse is not working.

Wow, he's like, I'm just going to blow up your whole computer.

You hear that?

That's my mouse ball spinning.

It's the cursor's not moving, no.

Which means I can't hit stop, which means I can't hit save.

Oh no, never.

That's crazy.

He's messing with you.

Fuck my life.

All right, well, let me just contemplate my next moves here.

This is like immediately moving into my top ten.

Weird stuff happening when I'm using the computer.

Yeah, that happens with me a lot.

There's a lot of weird stuff that happens.

I don't know, I I have, it'll happen a lot where it'll do the same thing or, and it'll be that like specific message I'm being asked to give and then there's issues or my stuff gets suppressed because the message is too on point that it's like, I don't know, I noticed that on social media.

But but yeah, I mean that these energies in general, can you know when you're working with them And if that's The thing is depending on the energy, like the deities I work with, like they're not going to really play tricks.

But that's what the fae do.

The fae, the fairies are nice.

That's what I've learned too, is the fae are different than like the fairies.

Like the fairies are a little nicer.

The fae will mess with you.

Yes, and many children see them too.

About 75% of the world's children today are being born with etheric vision.

And when your children talk with people and have Daydream playmates, the chances are they're actually speaking to some of these people because these angels or angelic forces or nature spirits as they're often called, will often make themselves sing, sing, sing.

And all of a sudden I hear him go.

Whoa.

Or, you know, something like that.

So I look up, and as I look up I see this Sing sing sing.

And I said I've never seen a butterfly like you before.

I know that the paranormal is real.

Listen, as soon as I spoke to it, it turns around and makes eye contact with me and then it stands upright.

And then it was at that moment that I saw it was like an orange light appear above this row of trees.

Then from this orange light, this thing appeared.

It's wings.

Were actually like Sycamore leaf shaped.

And I started talking to them.

I'm like, hi, Are you all the dwarfs?

And I would hear whispers that would say hi, yeah.

You want to play?

And it wasn't just my imagination.

And I had told them, I'm like my dwarfs, they like beer, you know?

And my dad's like, yeah, sure, your dwarfs like beer.

And they were holding a conversation in his beer slid upwards instead of downwards.

How the house was tilted and him and my brothers jumped off.

So I stopped calling out Adam and I'm just kind of, my mind draws a blank and I stopped behind that tree stump.

I'm pretty close to it now because I took a few steps forward and I see this thing, thing, thing.

Thin, thin, thin.

Because I was like, oh, I thought it was just spelled that way.

You know, when someone was like, no, no, like she's writing a book on fairies and I'm like, wow, well, thank you for like, clearing that up because I was writing fae as an FAERY.

And they're like, no, those are different.

That's not even the same thing as like a fairy, like FARY.

I'm like OK, and I have a fairy garden and like someone mowed it down and I was like, that's awesome.

So I have to replant that because they do give me shit if I don't so.

Well, I'm I'm 100% invested in talking with you because there's no way that this degree of high strangeness is occurring at the onset of the show unless you've got some interest and stuff to talk about here today.

So the privilege is all mine.

Yeah, I just let it flow.

So so I don't, I just let it flow like whatever is meant to come through will come through.

And so there may be some messages in there that there's also other energies that don't want this stuff coming out.

So you get you got a couple of different things.

It could be because I don't when when my stuff doesn't go out.

I know it's not necessarily a fairies.

It's a lot darker than that and there's like messages.

They don't want people to catch on to this stuff.

You're also accurate there too.

You get no objection from me.

It's a little bit hard because you can't see it with your eyes sometimes to pick out the offender.

But the the interesting thing is that if you do assign like the trick quote UN quote to like a fairey or a faire or a darker force, no matter who's behind the steering wheel, they all drive the same kind of car.

It seems like the playbook is fairly similar, which means there's an underlying logic to it all and they are using the same mechanics to perform the same miracles effectively, right?

So.

You know the.

Same inner framework that allows for a good supernatural occurrence is probably pretty close to the same internal framework that allows for a -1 Here today.

I'm pretty full on convinced that this is Grimble grumble character just because of my deep intuition and the feeling I have in the room right now.

Oh.

Yeah, pay attention to your feelings for sure.

Also, you know I was focusing on him in the moments before we started and then all this is transpired.

I mean starting with why I told you the pre conversation but just losing that comment with Hannah.

Yeah, he's giving me confirmation.

Grimble grumble.

Hi, I recognize you're here.

Thanks for letting me be reminded that you're an important part of the show.

I'm going to try to do this show with Jen now.

Could you please just quietly fuck off for a little minute, buddy?

Thank you.

OK here.

We go.

Welcome everybody tonight to Fascinating Faye.

Tonight we're traveling to New Jersey to talk with Jim.

Jim, how are things going in New Jersey tonight?

Things are going good, thank you for asking.

Thank you for being here.

I can't go any further without telling the audience.

Jen and I have just had an epic series of high strangeness technology issues, primarily me I should say, Which you know is worth noting because they were really interesting and I'll try to see if I was able to capture some of them and weave them into the intro part of this episode.

OK.

That said, Jen, thanks a lot for being here tonight.

I'm going to spend one minute to do in my brief intro if that's OK with you.

Sure.

Thank you.

So Jen, here on Fascinating Faye, we have a couple of rules that make the conversations flow.

The first one is that we are not here to convince anybody of anything.

It's difficult to convince people who are not immersed into the subject matter of the existence of this phenomenon.

And it is also difficult in general to just like take a stance in your storytelling that you have to convince somebody of something so.

Here we don't try to do that.

There's no emphasis on convincing anybody of anything.

It's not a gotcha show.

I'm not here to ask gotcha style questions.

I'm just here to listen.

The the second thing I like to say is it's, it's brave to come on the show because as I just aforementioned, the subject matter is tricky in terms of its understanding.

And depending on who's listening, they're going to be coming from a place of understanding that may not be at the same level as yours or mine or another person.

So, you know, it takes a, it takes a brave soul to just speak honestly about this stuff because it can bring about negative responses.

So I think it's brave to come on the show and I want to let you know that it's not a platitude.

I respect and appreciate you willing to talk to me about this this stuff.

Yeah, anytime.

Thank you for having me on the show.

No problem really like I said, the the pleasure's mine and then finally the last bit of my introduction then we'll get right into what you've come here to talk tonight about is just just as follows.

It's my format in the show, Jen, that I just kind of kick back and let the guest have as much mic time as necessary.

I really love it if guests can give us some context, you know, they can go chronologically, perhaps through experiences that can tell a little bit about themselves.

Whatever is helpful for myself and for the audience listening to gain understanding that's similar to how you understand these experiences, you know yourself.

That's the goal here.

So with that said, what I'll ask you to do is if you'd be so kind for myself and for the audience and if the fairies that are interfering will allow, would you be so kind as to just walk us into, you know, some of your first experiences and and get us going here tonight.

Yeah, sure.

So my first major experience was when I was 13, I was diagnosed with leukemia and I started to undergo very aggressive chemotherapy treatments.

And I had a massive reaction to the chemotherapy.

And I was like actually locked in my body in a vegetative state for three days.

I went to the void.

It was like the peaceful void.

I called the cosmic boom now, like I was swaddled in darkness.

I wasn't scared.

It was I was at peace.

I had no pain.

And then then the next thing you know, I wake up to my family around my bed saying goodbye to me.

And I made a full recovery.

Like I had my last rites read to me.

It was typical like Hospice type situation.

And I woke up and I learned to walk and talk again, you know, and I've permanent physical damage from the chemotherapy.

But I came out of that and doctors are like, that's a miracle.

We didn't do anything.

So that was the beginning for me to just like I say, near death experience, like an initiation spiritually for sure.

And I was 14 when that happened.

As far as fairies, So growing up, we're my families are, we're Irish and Scottish Americans, but our culture, they absolutely believe in the fairies.

So it's culturally speaking it, it is real to us.

And my mother had always talked about.

Her the, she got visited when she was a child by her fairy godmother and she has said that her whole life all the way up to the end when she had dementia, she still remembered that part where she'd met her fairy godmother.

So my, my parents were never, you know, told me things were not real.

They would actually, if I said, oh, I think that this is this, well, you know, believe yourself.

Then eventually it took me about 20 years to actually remember the fact that I had near death experience.

So that was about 10 years ago when I even processed everything.

And then I got introduced into like different near death experience groups.

And I share my near death experience quite a bit on podcasts and whatnot.

But as far as fairies, I do work with fairies.

I've like a fairy door on my altar.

I'm an initiated rose priestess as well and I actually belong to a temple based out of the UK so and even just finding that temple I don't even like something led me to that.

I don't even know how I find a temple of priestesses in the UK, but it is, it's, it's very much like when I have Reiki sessions, if people work with fairies, their fairies will come to me in the Reiki session.

And I have had clients that like I have fairies I work with.

But like I said, because I work with fairies, I'll have other people's fairies come to me.

And I even asked the client after the session, like, do you work with fairies by any chance?

She's like, yeah, I have a, a fairy garden in the house and outside.

And I'm like, that's funny because they came to me and then mine came to me in the same thing and told me to clean up my fairy garden that I have for my fairies.

So I got to talk into in that Reiki session by my own fairies because they're funny like that.

Like they, they even now I have to fix the fairy garden and that's looming over my head.

I have to go get some stuff to fix the fairy garden for the fairies.

But the near death experience, I think opened me up to all of it.

But then Reiki has helped me to stay open to it all and then to see other people and actually meet other people's, you know, fairies that work with them.

So as far as fairies, I have always believed in fairies, mainly because like, like I said, my mother had a visit from her fairy godmother when she was a child, you know, and they're Scottish and Irish ancestry.

So it's very much real.

It's it's part of the cultural ways, so.

Do do you remember what your mother's story of the fairy Godmother visiting her was?

Do you remember any details from her story?

She just said that when she was a child, her fairy godmother showed up in her room.

I don't really know what she said, but she remembered that her whole life.

I mean like I said, even up to the end when she had dementia and can barely remember our names, she remembered she got a visit from her fairy godmother.

I find that fascinating, just because a lot of people had had that strong, strong memory of a visitation in youth.

The second episode of the podcast features Monique, a woman from New York City who, you know, it's it, it hearing you just paraphrase your mom's story, It's pretty identical.

You know, just 50 years later, she can still remember this.

I spoke to another woman named Leif from British Columbia, Canada.

Very similar recollection of, you know, around 4 to five years old.

And I've spoken to a number of people offline who've actually let me talk to their children.

And, you know, you talk to some kids and maybe now they're 8-9 and they're telling, like, really compelling stories and visitations where they're 4-5.

It's fascinating.

And especially the kids these days are so gifted.

I I say they're they're reincarnated warriors like the kids these days.

They're so spiritually open, you know, I, they come back to bring back all of this to us.

I believe so.

And even my son talks about past lives and stuff.

It's crazy.

It's wild what they can remember.

It's interesting because like I've heard a number of people also comment on the children of this generation and maybe the one just before it having these gifts.

Yeah, they're super gifted.

They're coming in, I think at a different time, you know, where the, I just feel like the vibration is rising.

So these kids are coming in at a higher vibratory rate than us.

So they come in and remember everything we have forgotten and we have to remember it, but they don't ever forget.

So I feel like there's like the veil is gone in that sense.

So they can see, you know, like I, I'm a pediatric home health nurse and kids, kids see things that we can't typically see.

You know, there's, there's no filter there.

And I, like I said with my mom, you know, nobody ever told her it was fake.

I mean, my grandfather's Scottish.

Like I said, I, it's real there.

The movie, What is it brave?

It's there's, it's about Scotland too, I think so.

That's interesting.

It's you had a little EVP there, it wouldn't let you say about that movie.

Interesting.

Oh, oh, it's it blocked it out.

Well, yeah, that's that's one movie.

And that's what I like about these movies that are coming out now for kids.

It's teaching the kids about cultural ways.

If you look, there's so many different cultures they're, you know, putting out there and, and it all comes down to like there is all of the spirituality it's tied in with our ancestors.

There's a real through line that I'm starting to look at historically where there's this concept of like certain generations of children being born with etheric vision.

I have a little clip about it in my intro.

Actually.

Maybe in the 1940s and 50s, there was a real belief that like a high percentage of children were being born with etheric vision.

And I don't know if it was a direct response to the world wars or, or what, but there was like a it seems to be there was a generation of people ushered in with more connection.

And again, here we find ourselves in a troubling time on the planet.

And it does seem to be occurring again, which I find really interesting.

Yeah, for sure.

It's like the kids will save this world for real.

But I think to do that, we're being our, we're just having to tap in with the earth more.

And when you tap in with the earth and you know, you connect with the earth enough, you see, you see spirit like you're more grounded in a way that you can connect with nature, which these are parts of nature, you know, fairies.

Fairies are a part of nature.

Well said.

I think they've been here before us.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Humans are are definitely, I mean, these things have been around a lot longer, but we have, you know, we have ancient ancestors too.

Like I remind people, our ancestors are not just a few 100 years back, there's thousands of years.

So when you go back that far, everybody was living in tune with Mother Nature, you know, and this is when we have the folklore, quote UN quote, about fairies.

And it's like, was it just folklore?

No, it wasn't.

It's just as we were detached over the years from spirit, we had to make it seem like it was all fake.

You know, it's all make believe, but really it's not.

It's just a matter of being plugged back into spirit to be able to see or sense fairies and, and you know, entities like energies like that.

It's it's difficult because I mean, no, just speaking personally here, it's jarring.

And when you start to realize, like, oh, like, fairy tales, for lack of a better word, are real, that's a huge conceptual leap for, like, a brain to make, especially in adulthood.

For sure, Especially when we're taught that this stuff's not real, you know?

Also, I would go so far as to say the phenomena is tricky enough that it is also internally a little bit invalidating because it doesn't leave you with like a box of fairy parts that you can go show to the forensic lab.

You know what I mean?

It leaves you empty handed and the journey is 1 largely internally of of growth of the mind and the and the way that your perception of your surroundings changes in relation to understanding then makes it clearer.

But at first you're blind.

And so it the conditioning has been really effective and the the way that they've kind of placed fairies in culture as trivialities is a really good way to break connection to them.

The narrative of this show anyway, is that they're far more real than you we could ever imagine.

The extremely sophisticated, hyper talented quantum enabled, you know, individuals who have their own agenda, their own senses of personality, humor, morality, and when they're around you feel you're in contact with someone, not just some like thing.

These are my archetypes.

These are theories, especially the fae especially, you know, I mean, look what just happened when we were talking earlier.

I've never seen happen before and completely defies logic where midstream the audio inputs are flipping and now you're recording where I should be recording.

You're not even manually.

Able to to stop the recording and change the input while the recording is underway.

So, you know, like just for the audience, just again, I'm harkening back to a pre conversation you are Privy to, but Jen and I were having a pre conversation that was getting really technically astonishing.

And so when I am saying like, just to agree with you, right?

Like fairies are are absolutely real, the way that folklore described them, the way that it kind of feels detached from what we might accept, I think is a byproduct of two things.

One, like the thing we're talking about, like the conditioning.

And two, the language has changed.

It's now hundreds of years later.

And rather than like making a bushel of potatoes go missing, they're fucking with my Audacity software while I'm looking.

At it, right.

And they can with that type of stuff even easier really because it's an electronic.

So they can kind of work through that a little easier.

And if if you, they want to mess with you, you know, but I mean, even even the government says interdimensional beings exist.

No, but they're not hiding it anymore.

So that's why I tell people.

And also we're at Solar Max, right?

And that's why I was like trying to explain when we're at solar Max, it's throwing plasma like at the Earth.

Hence the reason we all had those Aurora borealis is all the way down the United States just last week or whichever, you know, a couple weeks ago.

So when that happens, I, I watched someone called Dana the alien and she's on TikTok or Instagram, but she goes in depth about the mysticism of plasma.

You know, it's the fourth state of matter plasma, but it's intelligent.

It's an intelligent matter and it will work with you.

And she's like, what if fairies were plasma?

And like, look at ball lightning.

Ball lightning is plasma like, so the more that we're getting like at solar Max, we're getting a ton of this sent to the Earth.

There may be an increase.

And also it's sending higher vibrations to the Earth.

So we're seeing things in a different way.

Our heightened perceptions are at play at this point, so we can see more.

So you're going to have an influx of being able to see this stuff.

And just in the past 24 hours, we got hit with a ton of solar flare activity so that it almost fuels them because they're it's bringing us to a place where we can actually see them.

But I think the science behind this mystical folklore and stuff is going to come out to be like real.

And we're going to find the science behind it soon, I believe.

I'm I agree with that so strongly that we're going to figure it out scientifically.

Oh yeah.

I mean, look at the explosion in science right now, even medical, the medical world, everything you could see the evolution of, you know, I and it's going to probably it'll just bring in spirit into, you know, so it'll be mind, body, spirit that we're looking at instead of just the mind and the body anymore, because clearly that that doesn't work.

But.

You know, on that subject matter, let me if it's OK with you.

I want to ask some questions about your near death experience, if that's cool with you.

Sure.

OK.

Well, first of all, everything we've just talked about is extremely fascinating and tracks with a lot of my understanding.

So you, you know, I feel like I'm in good company talking with you.

Thanks again for being here tonight.

I really appreciate.

It yeah, no problem.

Thank you.

Honestly, this is super fascinating.

Actually very clear conversation.

Might seem a little bit hard to follow if you're new to the subject matter.

And I encourage anybody who's listening for the first time to go back, listen to more of the catalog, gain some context.

But I feel like I'm talking to an old friend who understands this stuff.

So I I really like talking with you think.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, same here.

It's nice when you can vibe.

You know, sometimes I'll bring stuff up and I get a look and I'm like, OK, that's definitely not the person to talk to about that.

But yeah, I go into all of this.

Absolutely.

You know, especially growing up Irish and Scottish, like they, they're real in in different cultures.

The Western world's a little bit harder to get to see the truth, but every culture has something like that.

You know, it's like I am starting to understand the difference between culture and upbringing and the and like the impact that actually does have on the understanding of experiences.

People in North America have a harder time than people in free.

Definitely the UK.

Yeah, for sure.

Just more detached from nature I think here.

I think that's the accurate and I think also like when when you look at like what happened to the country, they pretty much in the course of, you know, under 1000 years took all the magic right out of it had existed for time immemorial.

So.

And now this is the time when the magic's flowing back in and with the help, I believe, of the sun because like, we're in a solar system, so, and this happens every eleven years, solar Max.

So this is a cycle upon a cycle upon a cycle.

And like you could see the Earth, she's going through her shit, obviously with the volcanoes and earthquakes and basically we're all waking up together.

So that's why I think more people are going to start talking about their experiences with fairies or with, because I, I'm amazed by how many people I would never think you were into that.

And you have your own experience.

And it's like, wow, see, that's why we should all talk about our spiritual experiences more.

But we all feel like, oh, this person, I think I'm crazy, but it's like, you know what, just say it If you feel compelled because you have no idea.

Someone might be like right there on your level and you can have a whole, you know it.

It's cool because it kind of validates your beliefs too.

When you find people who which none of us really need to be validated.

You just have to believe yourself.

Like I say, like I'm I share everything because I don't really care if people call me crazy.

So it's all good.

Just don't call me late to dinner.

You actually summarized like the side mission of the show quite well there, which is that, you know, there's a bit of a comfort in hearing the other voices and knowing like this could just basically happen to anybody.

And it's not isolated to, you know, cause a lot of people are, are a lot of people are isolated when they have a real paranormal experience.

I would say it's a pretty isolating thing actually.

Right.

You don't know.

Oh my gosh, I'm losing my mind, you know?

Or maybe sometimes even worse, like, Oh my gosh, I have to join all these New Agey people, you know, like.

Right.

It can be difficult for as an average Joe to reconcile spiritual experiences or abilities without feeling like they're getting drawn into a Brian Froud, you know, Labyrinth movie or something, You know, like, and if that's not your aesthetic to begin with, folklore and the fairy community quote UN quote can be pretty off putting especially I'm just talking personally to a guy like me, like I was straight middle-aged white guy.

Like I often struggle still with like am I really spending my days talking about fairies?

What has happened to my?

Yeah, it's amazing though.

But look at the opportunities you'll get from talking about that stuff.

You know, I think right now it's we should lean into whatever you feel like you should talk about, you know, especially spiritually because you're kind of giving the Fae a voice.

You know, the more people that talk about it, the more the fake can come in.

Really like like we were talking about before with, you know, if the people who believe it kind of opens up that, you know, channel for fairies to come in and you know, and then it expands because everybody's in their own awakening process.

Like even if somebody doesn't believe in it now, next year they'll have an experience for their self and then they will believe it.

So it's that's why it's like, don't even bother trying to get people to believe you.

But if you feel compelled to share with somebody, you'd be surprised.

Maybe if you shared that you'd have a fairy friend, you know?

Again, doing a really excellent job of paraphrasing the purpose of this show existing.

So thanks for that.

OK.

Yeah, so thanks for that.

And OK, before I forget, I wanted to ask a couple more questions about your near death experience.

And so, so let's go back there for a second.

First of all, surviving the leukemia diagnosis is no small feat.

That's awesome, you know.

Thanks.

Yeah, that was quite rough, especially because it was very experimental.

So yeah, they almost killed me on several occasions with that and it did 'cause permanent damage, but I just have such a different view of life because I was literally trapped in my body and fully aware.

I couldn't talk, I couldn't move.

I I couldn't let anybody know if you even have an itch.

And then I came out of that.

So I always look at life like it could be a lot worse.

You know, I'm lucky I could talk.

That's so profound that like, you have that locked in recollection and I'm coming to, you know, to see your family essentially surrounding you with your last rites.

It's pretty interesting following your near death experience.

What kind of things change or what did you notice was different in your life is really kind of what I'm trying to ask.

I just was happier.

I, I don't know, I, I just saw things in such a different light.

I was, I was, it like charged me up like I was always ready to have fun, you know, and before that, I mean, and then as I got longer down the line in life, I even actually seven years after my near death experience, I ended up landing a job as an autopsy assistant with a County Medical examiner.

So I literally worked with the dead for five years and I didn't even remember the near death experience.

I had No Fear in death.

I was like, these people are in a better place right now.

This is just their vessel.

And I just knew that like that wasn't like I was raised Catholic, like very loosely can I feel like we weren't really good at going to church and stuff.

But so my parents were never, you know, tear down anything I say about spirituality.

They're very supportive actually, which probably helps me to talk more about it.

But the, the experience made me just, I was not afraid of death to the point where I literally worked with the dead for five years.

And now I'm a nurse and I've worked Hospice cases, which I've used Reiki and, and stuff like.

And so I just know that there is something after this.

We're here for a very short amount of time and make the best of it.

We're learning lessons.

It's life is tough, but we're here to grow, so you know, it's about the ups and downs, but it really comes down to just love, to loving one another and when we can come together in that, life does shift.

It's really powerful to talk to you with that perspective, something that I think everybody listening could benefit from, because sometimes when we are facing our challenges on a day-to-day basis, they can seem overwhelming.

But I think you're speaking from a real place of experience, not just a platitude when you talk that way.

So I really admire that about you because a lot of people might have a different feeling about, you know, having had leukemia and other things they might feel or why me, you know, I don't hear that from you at all.

Well.

For sure, I was definitely why me for a long time, but then I ended up after 7 years of trying to conceive, I got pregnant with my son and that he saved me.

Like I, I can't even meeting, meeting this soul that's been with me through everything that really it, that is what fully brought that near death experience, you know, full circle.

But I did get, you know, it's not like I didn't get depression and stuff after that because you go to this peaceful place and then you come back to Earth and it's like, it's really hard, you know?

But I just tried to not like stay in the place, you know, just know that when you're at your lowest, it's because you're about to go up, right?

There's peaks and valleys in life.

It's just about going with the flow.

But it's also about feeling your feelings, not stuffing them down, feeling, no, I'm wrong for feeling that way.

Like you have to feel everything and just enjoy life.

Really.

It's about the little things you can, you can't take you got it.

You're going to take the memories with you, nothing else.

Look at it that way.

Really well said.

Again, I'm enjoying talking with you a lot because everything that you're saying is really well said.

Messages that I think a lot of people need to hear today, and myself included.

For sure, we're all going through a bit of a spiritual, you know, awakening, but it's just about trusting yourself.

You don't need validation from anybody really, you know.

The, the truth of it actually does lie within your heart.

And there's a feedback loop there because the fairies know your heart.

And so the relationship grows as your belief grows.

And as your belief grows, the expressions of their presence grow.

And then your belief grows.

And you can get yourself into a place like myself where, you know, pretty sure jealous Faye was mucking with and is still mucking with the technology, which is like, does that make him my my buddy like.

Well, I think if they get, they're like tricksters.

So it's like, I know like sometimes, but I mean, like the fairies I work with, it's because I work with fairies.

That's this is how these experiences even happen.

Like even, you know, the fairies LED us to talk today, you know, so that's they let us to talk and like that's like even other people that you have on your show, it's like it's all being led by them.

We're just being brought together by them, you know, and I look at it like that, all these experiences I've had, even just sharing the near death experience, I would never have met all the people I've met.

And it's all because I just spoke about my experience out loud and I didn't care what people thought.

So you know, your, your vibe will attract your tribe.

So to anybody out there that talks about fairies and gets looks, just blow it off.

Keep talking about fairies.

You'll find your tribe when you're when you keep putting out your vibe, you know?

Let's talk about fairies more than for a minute as we kind of, you know, move into the second-half getting closer to the conclusion of this conversation here tonight.

So with you and fairies, like, how did the relationship start?

Tell me a little bit more about the fairies you work with as you understand it.

I'm really curious to see how they fit into your life.

The fairies I work with, they I have, I use like a lot of protection.

So they're working with me, they protect me.

I also, when I work with my fairies, like I said, it opens me up to be able to give messages to other people who have fairies in my Reiki, you know, sessions because sometimes they, sometimes the sessions will turn into almost like a mediumship session.

It just depends on what's going to come through for each individual.

So I have had that experience though, where because I work with fairies, I can help other people or give messages to other people with their fairies, like letting them know they're right there.

So, you know, if you're wondering, they're there.

But ultimately, look, my fairies are like it.

I was saying it's funny because in the summer I, I sprinkled like wild fair wildflowers in my fairy garden and it like took over.

And then the, the people here I guess thought it was weeds and weed whacked the whole garden.

And I was like the day before I was looking at it and I'm like, that looks a little crazy.

I don't know what to do with that garden.

The next day it was like they weed whacked the whole thing.

So I was like, OK, that's the fairy saying start over.

It's too messy.

So they can be tricksters, though.

It really depends, but I really don't have any hard.

Usually they don't mess with me so much, but I I like to have that open communication with fairies because I truly do believe them.

And I feel like sometimes some fairies, who knows how far back they go, how far, how long they've been with you, what they know about your past lives.

Like I believe if they're with me now, they were always with me in every dimension.

So I, I pretty much, it opens me up.

That's why I like to work my fairies because it opens me up for other people so.

Interesting.

I do wonder too, like how they get associated with you and how long that goes for and and has it always been?

And like some of the courses of a person's life may feel inevitable when they finally realize they've got Faye in them or Faye with them.

You know, they can be both I think.

Some Faye Incarnate as humans too.

I'm, I'm starting to grow in my understanding of that as well.

Yeah.

I mean the soul being a everlasting concept and not, you know, finishing when the body finishes, I do believe the soul is everlasting.

Oh, absolutely, yeah.

You know, So what is a fairy other than just, you know, a type of bodiless soul, you know?

Yeah, I look at it like as an energy signature, its own unique and, and each, each fairy, it's just like each human we're own unique being like they are very unique in their own ways.

And it it depends, you know, like you got your fear that tricks you, but you probably have some that come in and really help you or uplift you or you know, I, I do, I think they're they're there to support us, but they depending they can be tricksters for sure.

So you get a little bit of both of that.

But yeah, I, I just believe they're like their own specific energy signature, just like other, you know, like I work with deities and stuff like that.

It's like the same thing, very specific energy signatures, but they're just in that group, you know, like I work with goddesses and this is just a group of fae.

And then you got the, you know, the gods like stuff like that, but it's their own group, but very individual energy signatures with each of us.

So I don't know, maybe that sounds really confusing.

Not so much because I kind of think that there's like an interdimensional ecosystem or I call it like interdimensional soup.

And I think you have entity classes.

I think like a ghost is understandable as a person who maybe was formerly human and is now separated from human form, but is still interacting with reality on some plain alien, you know, UFO.

This might be coming from another dimensional plane in which their planet is like quite a bit closer than ours, and so they're both physical and interdimensional because they've got a realness to themselves when they're in their plane.

I think you've got, you know, fairies and Fae, which are largely invisible and maybe exist in this plane, not necessarily another one, but maybe they exist at a higher frequency, a vibration within this plane and therefore are not normally detectable.

I think you've got, you know, branching out from there, as you said, deities, gods, archetypes, nature spirits.

I think you've got earth, stone and wood energies.

I think you've got elemental energies.

I think all of these components of reality, because reality is so beautiful, mystical and magical, just without even needing this extra stuff to be understood.

Yeah, just opening your eyes and touching a plant is gorgeous enough of an experience that it doesn't have to be any deeper to be meaningful.

But when you start to ask yourself like the fundamental question of why is this all here and how is this all here?

Like what is what is reality then is where you start to open the door to be understanding of all these things I just listed.

And so you're, you're talking like actually quite accurately about what that ecosystem is inhabited by in my, in my estimation, you know.

And we're just getting to a place, humans, where now we can, they've always been there.

We just couldn't see them or sense them.

But now as the veil lifts off of all of that spiritual stuff, now it's just we can see it now.

So like those energies have always been there.

It's just maybe we didn't notice, you know, or we couldn't see them or we didn't have our own experience because that's what it's like, you know, you have the initial experience that like initiates you and then you could see things after that.

So, yeah, everybody's like on their own path.

And, and like I said, sometimes people can't see it now, but they'll see it, you know, when they're meant to.

Yeah, a lot of people talk about this like initiating experience, and it's often traumatic.

And I've wrestled with this one a lot because it sounds on paper like trauma.

Traumatized people are predisposed to the paranormal, which could sound like traumatized people are predisposed to hallucinations because they're traumatized, right?

So when people draw that corollary between like a trauma or a big event and then thereafter having more perception or a change perspective, it can be like contextually the wrong envelope.

But what I like to think of it is like is like this.

I think of big trauma like you're talking about that your near death experience, you know, surviving leukemia, coming out of it essentially cancer free and that in remission.

Like what I think is that a traumatic experience is closer to a rebirth.

Right.

Yeah, definitely.

And in newness and in birth, in childhood, in newness, in youth, it's clear that perception of the paranormal is stronger.

And so an adult trauma can re, you know, cause you to go through rebirth, essentially.

Yeah, I think, you know, things tend to happen when they're meant to.

Or I mean, it feels like when we ever meant to have a trauma, but like it's happening at that time to wake you up for your next phase of life on Earth at least unless you don't make it and you're actually dead, then you have your next phase of life off of this earth.

But but I think they're so like you said, like so many different types of energies that exist here that we're just scratching the surface of.

Yeah.

And they can be confused with one another and for sure it can be, you know, a bit of a land minefield as you wade out into it.

From a personal energetic and protection standpoint as well.

I would say that that's part of the consideration that everyone needs to make, really.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, it's very important right now, especially to protect your energy and cleanse and yeah, for sure.

Well, Jen, I have a favorite question that I ask everybody that comes on the show as we get, you know, closer to the end of the show.

So I'm going to ask you that question.

Now.

Here's my little caveat that I give.

We've been talking largely about fairies this entire, you know, past hour.

But I'd like to ask the specific question because I'm here to just sort of collect, you know, your, your thoughts in one place on the question.

No right answer, no wrong answer because no one truly knows.

But I'm just wondering, Jen, what do you think that fairies are?

I believe that they're energies.

They're just, it's a specific energy signature.

Like I, I or it could be plasma, like I'm not even joking.

It's could be it's, I believe they're here already and we just don't see them until we get to a place where we can see them because they're energy signatures and we just, our, our physical eyes can't necessarily always see that.

I believe that they're just energy.

Everything is energy, but there's specific energy signatures from, like you said, a specific energy group.

Really well said.

I think that's about as accurate of a description as I could give too.

Yeah, I I think we're going to learn a lot more about it too as time goes on, so.

Well, I certainly believe that through conversations like this, and through efforts by yourself and others that are out there working to open minds, there's a real possibility that we will again have the veil lifted and be able to go have brunch with our favorite gnome and fairy sitting at the table across from us.

Or so I should hope.

I think our ancestors hope that we get to that place because that's where they were and that's where we need to get to, to be one with nature again, you know?

I think the fairies hope it for us as well.

For sure, yeah, it will be a better place when we can all accept Spirit, you know?

Well said.

Well, what I'll do here, Jen, is I'll just spend like one minute signing off on the podcast.

I always give my guests the last word on the show.

So while I just blabber away about social media and all that for a minute here, think about what your last word might be.

And then it'll it'll be something you can tell everybody in a moment here if that's OK with you.

OK.

Sure.

OK, cool.

Well, everybody you've been listening tonight to fascinated Faye.

I'm your host, Jim.

If you'd like to come on the show and talk fairies with me.

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And if you prefer, you can also shoot me Adm on any common social media at fascinating Faye and get a hold of me that way to, you know, chat or come on the show.

Be happy to hear from you, Jen.

I don't have any more value I could add.

I could talk with you much longer and you know, maybe in a later time, I want to dig in more to what you saw and experienced during your near death encounter.

But your death experience, I should say.

But for tonight, you know, I'm I'm happy to to sort of get close to sign off here as we've talked a lot about fairies and I've really, you know, learned a lot from you and enjoyed a lot of what you've said just before I forget.

I really like what you said.

Our fairies ball lightning.

It's really interesting because some people are trying to debunk my encounter by saying I had ball and you can come into the wheelhouse of my boat.

Right.

Well, I would say, you know, stand in your truth, not somebody else's, because the experience was for you and nobody else.

I would say as well like that idea that like his ball lightning fairies, it's half a dozen of 1/6 of the other.

It might very well be.

It could be a a version of.

It exactly and it may be a mechanism that they're utilizing and when people think they've seen ball lightning, which is pretty incredible to condom plate existing scientifically, there might be a little bit more going on there than is currently part of the scientific hypothesis about what the lighting is.

Right.

Yeah, We don't know everything yet.

People need to remember that we're always learning.

No, we certainly don't, but usually I keep my outro more succinct, but I had to toss that one out because it was something you said that I thought was a great part of today's chat.

That said though, I don't have any more value I can add or questions for tonight, so I will say that on behalf of all of our human and non human listeners tuned in to fascinating fate tonight.

Super big thanks to Jen from New Jersey for coming on the show to tell fairies with me.

Jen, I really appreciate you being here.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me on great talk.

Thank you.

Absolutely.

And without any further ado, if you've got some last words for the audience tonight, I'll let you do the signing off here.

My last words would be like I was saying, stand in your own truths.

People do not need to validate what you're seeing.

Pretty pictures on the wall, plastic figurines I saw the markings in all in the stacks of magazines.

I don't remember much at all.

Tired door is blurred and everything I do recall I can't describe with.

World with world there.

Are children in the garden playing some funny games?

I hadn't seen them yet before, but I somehow knew their names.

I don't remember much at all what I don't expert in.

Everything I do recall I can't describe with words with words with words with.

Words with words.

I could.

Let it be all right, all right, hold.

You tonight.

It'll be all right.

It'll be all right.

Left.

I could hold you tonight.

Let it be all right.

Won't you deny?

Let it be all right, Let it be all right.

But if I turn, Won't you deny?

Let it be all right, let it be all right.