Music.

None.

So let me redo that.

Hey now.

The the Honorable Jeff has let me share with us too.

And we are what?

I'm wearing the wrong shirt.

Hold on, I'm.

Wearing the wrong shirt.

What is happening?

I don't even.

Know it's.

Going to take a while to make it this button.

Interlude.

Well, Jeff undoes some buttons.

You didn't think you were tuning into this?

This is not Patreon content.

What is Heck Oh my stand up and give the people a real good look at this shirt for a second.

That is, that is.

One of them people think we don't.

Like each?

Other.

We should be all set from.

This you know.

The funniest thing I've ever.

Seen you can't look away like it's just it it, yeah.

I thought they sold out of those at Disney Springs.

And the only one.

Yeah, that ones from TAMU or everybody.

Well, welcome everybody.

Thank you for joining us for our live stream here from the Fort Wilderness Cabins.

It has been a morning so far.

It is a stressful behind the scenes I think for Is it more stressful for you guys to watch me set all this up or?

I just feel bad because I don't know how we can help, but I can feel your stress.

I can feel your energy.

I'm hearing audio.

I'm I'm getting some stuff about audio.

So I just want to make sure everybody can hear us out there.

No, I'm so sorry.

Yeah, we're, we're working the best we can with Ohio.

Audio is in and out.

OK, well, I'm, I'm going to give you this much already.

We are recording this so we can put up a better version if we need to in the future, but for the live stream, the Cabins of Fort Wilderness Internet is absolutely terrible and so I am streaming this entire thing off of my cell phone at the moment.

2 bars of service.

2 bars of service, Yeah, Thank you.

T-Mobile, it's pretty good, but we're doing the best we can.

So I apologize in advance about the audio, but we will do the best we can.

If it gets better, great.

If it doesn't I am sorry but not much I can do about it at this point.

So now you just made Paul even more stressed out.

Started rough but OK now you did.

Make a good point, our names are switched.

Yeah, I, yeah, that's going to take a long time, Jeff.

Yeah.

We're just leaving it, Yeah.

It's yeah.

Wait, I can fix it.

So, Jeff, I'll.

Be perfect 'cause you're wearing yourself.

I love that people TuneIn to just watch us randomly fix these things.

Derek, tell us a joke.

I know you learned some good jokes last.

Night oh, I did at Fan Fest yesterday with met some fantastic people which I know we're going to talk about a little bit later on.

Someone told me a fantastic joke which I love.

So everybody get ready.

So everybody's seen Star Wars, right?

Empire Strikes Back.

So we all know the scene with the Taunton, right, The Taunton, the Taunton.

So they said what temperature is Taunton meat best served?

Anyone know?

Lukewarm.

Excellent.

Excellent.

Because he bathed in its innards when he cut them open.

That's why it's funny.

Hopefully the Internet cut out on that joke.

I thought it was funny.

Hey, I think I might have figured out the the audio here.

It's just going to take me a minute.

So yeah, Jeff, tell us about your your Fort Wilderness Cabins experience so far while I fix it.

First time at the cabins here and I am in love with them.

Still wouldn't buy here because the dudes are Cray Cray but we brought our dogs.

You'll see a video of of DVC fan with our dogs here shortly.

It's been a blast.

We've been able to explore the dog parks, do the golf cart, roam, roam the cabins.

They're in heaven.

They absolutely loved it, like we bought the Mickey and Minnie ears and we've just been showing around to everybody, so it has been fantastic.

How about you?

Have you?

Didn't something happen when you checked in with your dogs Right Like?

Yeah, you got.

I don't want to spoil the video, but I will say that sorry, the Disney folks at the front lobby did give our dogs their own welcome home gift, which you'll get to see in that video coming up this week.

So very cool, very cool experience, yeah.

That's so cool and thank you for picking me up from the golf cart.

Today and we made it back in one piece so that was putting on either way he.

Did and I think my words actually to Jeff as I parked my car and he came up to pick me up.

I said just thinking about our relationship over so many years, you know, the last two years, we said right when we approached each other, we go, who would have thunk?

Then all of a sudden you're pulling up in a in a golf cart coming to pick us up to go do a live show when you're staying at the cabin.

Yeah, wilderness.

It's just crazy.

So.

We we've already decided we're going to make this an annual tradition and just make it a little staycation once a year.

Tea.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

I I, I love it.

I mean, I'll talk more about it later, but yeah.

Give us some updates on the audio.

I think we have maybe plugged some things in and fixed some things with all of that.

So I apologize in advance again.

It's kind of going on on location and causes us some issues.

We're getting some thumbs up though some from from some people in the back.

So I think we might have fixed our.

Problems.

Perfect.

Thank you guys for hanging with us through that.

Yeah, when we when we first got here.

Answer to me.

You're very far away right now.

When we first got here, the Internet, we nobody could get on the Wi-Fi at all.

It's just, there's just nothing.

And so, and a lot of people were saying that you, if you restart your stream, it'll fix your audio.

But I'm hearing it's good.

But yeah, we've got, we've got 2 bars of service and that's what we're streaming on.

But yeah, sounds like, sounds like we're doing a lot better technical.

Issues.

Are fun.

We've survived.

We've survived.

Yes, guys, I'm so sorry.

Yes.

Believe it or not, this is not our regular thing and this is kind of a dog and pony show sometimes.

If you subscribe to us on Patreon, patreon.com/DBC fan, you will realize that there's some behind the scenes pictures there.

I'm not going to lie when I tell you that there's a camera sitting on top of a baking dish at the moment.

And that is the extent of our technical skills here.

So we try our best.

But I'm going to welcome you all again to this special edition of the DVC show from the Cabins at Fort Wilderness.

Again, we got Derek de Boer with us, Jeff Haslam and my lovely wife Amy Krieger, and we are here to talk to you for the next two hours and kind of share some of our thoughts about the Fort Wilderness experience.

We've got some joining us here as well.

They might jump in and out of this as well, Andrew said.

Derek, have you lost any weight?

I don't know.

Apparently.

Apparently you're looking.

Looking.

You're looking trim and yeah.

My God, this is my favorite life, which I will tell you right now, and I'm looking at him right over here.

I'm looking at I have this Roosevelt shirt on that I bought because I love Roosevelt's.

And I was trying to pick up my outfit and I was like, you know what, I don't know what to wear.

I got 9000 shirts to wear.

And Annie, my wife, she goes, what about the one with the dogs?

Because, you know, dogs are at Fort Wilderness.

I'm like, yeah, that's good.

So I put it on and I show up here at the cabin and I meet everybody and Dan and Jeff are here.

Fantastic.

And he looks at me, he's like, that's a nice shirt.

It's a little blousy though, don't you think?

And I was like, really like, it's blousy like right now.

I mean, I know it's like 1 size too big, but the other one seemed to fit fine, but blousy.

And then I couldn't stop fidgeting with it for legit like the next like 30 minutes And they're like, stop fidgeting.

I go, you know what?

I'm going to the bathroom and I'm going to tuck it in.

And then I came out.

So thank you, Jeff, thank you for helping me fix my shirt and thank you whoever made that comment you just made my whole entire day.

This is my favorite live feed of all time.

I also want to I jumped to this comment from Frank.

Frank said hello to all the crew.

Aloha from beautiful Alani.

So.

I.

Thanks for the invite, Frank.

Yeah, Do you?

Think's considered I'd rather be there.

Not that I don't like you guys.

DVC Fan Fest 2026, maybe from Alani actually.

We do want to talk about that to kind of start off the show here before.

Before we do though, I do just want to give a quick shout out and a big love to the fact that we are all here.

First off, you to our amazing community.

We have met so many of you over the past 24 hours.

We had a great monorail crawl around 7 Seas Lagoon last night.

It was so much fun not only to meet all of you and interact with you, but also just watch you interact with each other and kind of mingle and make that.

That is what this is about for us.

It's about the, it's about the community, absolutely.

Yeah, and it was great to see like what we've always said about this show is we want people to get the most out of their membership and to be able to communicate that with and like network with other members.

I don't think there's a better way to to learn about the membership than learning how other people use it.

Cuz there's no right or wrong.

Well, there's some wrong ways.

We talked about that last week, but there are some ways to do it that might be out of the norm.

And it's great to hear other people's experiences.

Yeah, we could literally do a 2 hour show.

I'm just talking about last night and all the stories and all the amazing members.

And again, thank you.

And I thought about it and I texted the whole group today and I was like, God, I wish we could have done like a speech.

Like I wanted to do like a speech to just thank everyone because this community and it just it's very heartwarming to me and it was overwhelming slash heartwarming in like the best possible way just because it was so awesome to see so many people legit from all over the whole entire world.

You know, you know who you are MO so but all over the whole entire world to be able to come and we could interact and share stories and with each other.

And it's such a great community because of each and everyone of you.

So helping those learning about the club for the first time too.

You guys are always so great to everyone that goes on DBC fan and everything else.

So getting that face to FaceTime last night was just it was magical.

So thank you so much.

Yeah, Derek de Boer running for governor in 20.

20 Yeah, I ain't running for governor.

There's too much stuff on me.

And, and Paul had mentioned this when we were driving back, but it was not only was it just amazing for us to meet all of you guys yesterday, I feel like, I feel like I didn't even see Paul or Jeff or Derek.

Talking for the first time this morning, Yeah, because.

It was like we were just so like interested in in listening to you guys, but also just seeing the the community interact with each other, you know, in that, you know, building more community.

And Jennifer just said a little, little bit ago that last night she met like new friends, you know, forever friends for life.

So like so we love that you guys can build those connections too within the community and find people that share the same passions that you know, that you do.

So that's awesome.

Yeah, we really want this to outlive all of us that are that are a part of this.

Not that we're going anywhere.

We're all going to be here, I promise you.

I don't know, Jeff might be on borrowed.

Not as long as others.

The shirt might be debatable at this, the shirt might have sealed the deal on that one.

But you know, we want this to outlive us.

We want these relationships that you make with other members to be what Disney Vacation Club and DVC is all about.

And it's it's truly at the heart of what our DVC fan community is.

The biggest thing I want to say with you all is the biggest reason that we do all of this and and the way that we continue to do all of this is twofold.

1, I want to give a big shout out to our Patreon community, patreon.com/DVC fan.

We thank you guys so much.

The fact that you guys give money to support this show and support what we do, it means the world to us.

If you would like to join in on that and become a part of that, then please head to patreon.com/DVC fan.

You get to see some behind the scenes action Jeff Gervaisio just crawled under the table, under the table while I was giving that speech.

Get to the other room and open that door behind us.

I don't know why he just didn't walk by and open the door.

It would have been much less jarring.

But there are pictures.

I can tell you there's people that are taking pictures of him crawling under the table.

Those are going to be on Patreon.

So thank you so much to our amazing Patreon community and all of our Patreon supporters.

And again, a big shout out to our wonderful, wonderful partners, sponsors.

The reason we do all this?

Key Holder Vacations, the world of DVC, Patreon community and all of our Patreon supporters.

And again, a big shout out to our wonderful, wonderful partners, sponsors.

The reason DC rental store where you can try before you buy, rent some points.

If you're looking to stay Disney Vacation Club for the first time, you can save up upwards of 65% off of that direct Disney stay if you rent DVC points or if you've got some extra points this year and you're not going to use them, you can make some cash out of those.

So DVC rental store Last but not least, our newest brand that's a part of this family, Unlocked Magic, where you can get discounted tickets, where you can get tickets for Universal Orlando as well as the Walt Disney World Resort.

Head to unlockedmagic.com/DVC fan I guarantee you those are some of the best ticket discounts you will find on the Internet.

We also have special party tickets, Jollywood nights, Mickey's very Merry Christmas party and Mickey's not so scary Halloween party.

I thought you're going to say something but it was just a yawn so.

We have.

We have some people asking about Panda.

He's not at the dentist.

No, he is not at the dentist.

No.

Wow, that was.

Please take my shirt off when you make horrible jokes like that.

So for those for those of you that are coming tonight, Panda will be there at the meet up and at Whoopi Doo tonight.

I believe he's also going to be at the Patreon meet up tomorrow morning.

Yeah, so, so you'll see him there.

But he did send us a a video.

I don't know if Paul's going to be able to get it up or not, but he just wanted to explain a little, a little bit about where he was.

So we will add that here in a second.

But yeah, Panda, if you hear us, you know we miss you.

But we'll see you this evening for some fried chicken.

Yeah, Yeah, Panda.

Yeah, Panda recently started a new job.

Actually, it's with Verizon, not a sponsor of this show, but yeah, we're working on it.

We're working on it.

You know Red Baron turned us down, so you.

Got to you.

Got to move on and find a find a second 2nd sponsor for this show.

But yeah, no, he's busy, he's working.

You know, all of you know, if you start a new job, start a new sales job or something like that, you kind of get the the shifts you maybe don't want to have First off.

So that's affected things.

As has everyone's been following the pan.

I call it the panda tooth saga.

At this point.

I've had nightmares about problems with my teeth and I blame Panda for this at at this time.

Yeah, I explained it to you the other day.

It was quite a, quite a nightmare about I'm scared of.

Every that.

Only explains like 1/4 of that dream.

Yeah, the other part I was, yeah, it was a very strange dream.

I need, if any of you are experts at unpacking dreams, I would like to like to get some more information about that, please.

But yeah, thank you all for tuning in for this week's special edition of the DVC Show.

We're happy to be here, happy to be at Fort Wilderness.

We are headed to Hoop Dee Doo a little bit later.

Do you get you guys shared all of your thoughts on kind of the cabin experience so far so?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I, I hadn't.

Been.

Here they did it in the when you were testing, Yeah.

Yeah, Yeah, we were kind.

Of you had me talk while you switched the audio.

OK, well, we missed that.

They didn't hear you.

Yeah.

These aren't scripted, folks.

You're getting a rock.

You get what you get.

Yeah, yeah.

So I mean, I hadn't been here in like 15 years, so I'm super excited to be able to go see Hoop Dee Doo and my wife Annie's going to be able to come tonight.

And I know my son Connor, I think, is watching.

So what's up, bro?

Connor's watching and Owen's watching.

Everybody's watching.

So I'm.

It's really cool.

And I kept thinking when Jeff came to pick me up in that golf cart, like how fun it would be.

And we can probably delve into this because I've, you know, of course people give it, you know, not crap, but like, oh God, it's just a trailer, blah, blah, blah.

I haven't really spent time obviously, in this area.

The last time I was here was like 15 years ago for like a Disney media event where you're just busting.

You go straight to Hoop Dee Doo, you watch the show, then they bust you out.

So being able to get on a golf cart and just go around and see, my God, this place is massive.

Like it is massive, but it's the little community and you don't feel like you're at Disney World.

And I know people say it about certain resorts.

This one you don't feel like you're a Disney at.

No, you really don't like.

And it's, it feels like we're back in Utah like this feels like we're up Cottonwood Canyon again.

Yeah.

Glamping.

And, and I could say that and I kept thinking that I would have a really good time coming here, but what I wouldn't do, like for me, what I like about it is being able to come here, maybe stay like 2 nights, maybe three nights.

But I wouldn't go to a park like here.

Like I feel like the effort involved in getting to a park from here feels like it might be too much.

Whereas I, I feel like there's so much here to do.

Just even driving around and you're seeing everybody with their different parts and there's, you know, Amy's telling me there's like archery.

And.

So many activities that I feel like it'd be super cool to do like a combo trip, right?

So like you do your OK, I'm going to do my park heavy stuff.

I'm going to go stay at whatever the Poly or the boardwalk or not.

Not Bay Lake Tower but you go stay at whatever Disney resort you are, do all your parks then come here to almost like people view going to Vero or you like.

Compress a little.

Bit decompress yeah you know what I mean and just come here yeah spend some family time and I mean the view you guys can't see it out here it's gorgeous I mean it's so pretty and it's sunny and thankfully not raining today but yeah I would definitely do this for a couple nights just a complete non park trip.

Yeah, there there is.

There's so much to do.

I love that idea.

It can just be, you know, like the second-half relaxing portion, you know, like you said, drive around in a golf cart, check out if you come around, even if you don't come around a holiday, there's still people that decorate, you know, decorate their golf carts, decorate their cabin.

But if you come around Halloween, Christmas, there's there's even a lot more to see and they have a lot of events for Christmas and Halloween, golf cart parades and just just all sorts of things.

But also just other things.

You know, Derek mentioned the archery.

They've got kayaking.

Paul and I did the kayak.

We loved it.

They have fishing.

There's, you know, multiple swimming pools.

I know I say that word weird.

And someone told me that last night and I was like, Yep, I know which is true.

You know, even just there's so many walking trails and paths and we see people on bikes and scooters and just walking or you know, you can bring your dog.

So people walking their dog, there's horseback riding.

So we just campfires and s'mores and sing alongs.

And so just a lot, lot of lot of options just if you're going to hang out here, Jeff, you can definitely walk in front of.

We even did arts and crafts today.

Yeah, you did some.

Some of us wouldn't did some arts.

Hey one of you 2 grab me one of our mugs over there.

Oh.

Yeah.

Oh God, the tree looks like tree.

Every day they have over by the bike, I think it's called the Bike barn.

They have special arts and crafts every single day.

So Jeff is showing off here and I'll, I'll take it in.

This one.

That was Dan's.

That was Dan's.

Awesome.

So wow.

Haslam is showing off.

I believe that is Jeff G's mug.

It says happily ever after across it and then Amy here has this was.

Dan So it's like so colorful and then like you put the castle got the.

Castle in his egg and then if you tilt down, we've got a little Mickey on the top and then.

So this is supposed to be a trail mix jar.

Jeff says Summerfest 2025 on the top of his yeah, it's supposed to be a trail mix jar.

We were a little, I will say it was a little underwhelming because these are plastic jars and I expected trail mix.

I understand why Disney's not doing trail mix for allergy reasons.

They did take our names and our cabin numbers and said that maybe there would be a special surprise that comes by later.

So we'll have to kind of wait and see what.

That what other Disney resort can you get a delight and surprise of trail mix?

They're gonna have a delight surprise when they knock in 20 minutes and they're like, what is that?

We already encountered our daily trash visit.

Yeah, I was glad that was.

We were making sandwiches like.

Would you like a sandwich?

Like how are you doing?

You do.

Not want our sandwiches?

Nice to meet you today.

Well, Amy mentioned earlier why Panda is not here.

He is working.

I'm going to try to drag this video into this real quick and see if we can add in this add in this video real quick just to do.

Full share you do full screen and get out of.

It I'm a little scared about it, so I'm going to click this one and we're gonna see about the audio.

Now you can you can see him, but I don't think you can hear him quite yet.

I'll just pretend like I'm him.

Hi, everybody.

Hi, everybody.

Panda, I'm Panda.

I'm at work.

Put up.

I'd rather be with you.

Welcome home.

Welcome home.

Yeah, don't eat olives, kids.

Yeah, when I tell you like we tried.

Panda.

We tried, we tried to bring it in.

What if I do full screen with audio download?

DVC fan live show people.

Well, now he's talking, but we can't see him for hours.

But I'll.

We'll do it like I'm.

Looking forward to that and to hopefully I can see all of you.

I'm sorry I wasn't there last night.

Real work is it's hard.

It's hard.

I'm not liking it so much.

I'll see you soon.

That was so weird because I don't know where the video.

Went, yeah, that's OK.

Wait, like you all heard the audio, right?

Like everyone heard heard the audio.

Dan's telling me no, because we're like we're, we have like a minute, minute long delay on the on the broadcast.

Yeah, it it is a delay.

Yeah, that's OK.

We all heard on the show.

Right here.

Yeah, it was like.

Ringling Brothers.

Well, Jeff, you killed him off.

So it was the ghost of Panda talking to us from the beyond, I guess, you know.

But Panda, we're excited to see you later tonight.

We did come up with a couple different topics that we wanted to kind of cover in today's live stream.

One of the most interesting that I wanted to to start off on and and Amy's opinion was the most boring of the topics was right of first it.

Is the boring topic.

Right of first refusal.

I did want to mention that real quick.

So if anyone follows us on, on the DVC resale market blog, I write a, write a first, write a first refusal report once a month that discusses kind of the roefer activity that's gone on in the resale market in the past month.

And to all of our surprise, it was.

It took me 3 hours to actually write the report this month because it felt like every single resort had a roofer, even Derek's beloved Vero Beach.

I don't know what happened.

I was like, Paul, Are you sure that was correct?

They actually bought back a Vero Beach.

I think it was what, for like $12.00 a point?

Yeah, it was.

It was very, very low, like maybe in the 30s, if not lower.

So yeah, I just wanted to go around the room real quick.

Any thoughts as to like what Disney's attack is right now with roofer or why they might be doing this?

Jeff.

I, I don't follow this as closely as everybody else, but I have to think they're gearing up for something.

I have to think they're getting points back for something.

I don't know if it's, I don't know.

I have no idea.

Let me just put it that way.

I don't know, but I think they're gearing up.

Is it?

Right.

Good.

Jeff doesn't know.

Got it.

Perfect, Derek.

I don't know, Like I mean.

This.

Great segment, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm not myself, still here, just as Jeff Shirt said.

I don't know, like.

25 people just jumped off because we don't know anything about this vacation.

They're they're definitely.

Doing it for a reason.

And I think that when they don't do Roefer and that's where people go, Oh my God, it's so great because Disney's not buying contracts back.

But as an owner of DVC, you always want to see Roefer happen because when Roefer doesn't happen, what happens to your value of your DVC is it starts to, you know, go lower and lower and lower and lower.

So you want Disney to buy contracts back because therefore the prices increase.

So should you need to sell it down the road.

It is a strange approach to the fact that it's almost battershot because for a while it really was like very specific and I could put my, you know, finger on it like, oh, they're buying back Grand Floridian because people that look at Polly, look at Grand and say I don't want Polly, I want to buy that.

Or people that go to Disneyland, look at Disneyland Tower and say I don't want that, I want the Grand Californian.

So that's why the two grands were being bought back.

But yeah, all of a sudden out of no OO, Key West will always buy back because they can buy it back basically super cheap.

Yeah, flip it and boom, it's that, you know, 2057, they sell it for what, 200 and 15215 bucks a point so they can buy something back.

And I was having a conversation with someone the other day where they're talking about Rofer and I said, listen, at the end of the day, you got to remember Disney's cheap.

You know, it's not that Disney has unlimited funds to just say we're buying back everything.

Like they're given like every division in the Disney company, a certain bucket of money that they have.

OK, this is what you guys have for your Roe for buying for the whole entire year, right?

For the whole entire fiscal year.

How they decide to do it is up to them.

So therefore, they're going to be selective on like, listen, we could buy back an OQS that snucks through at 80.

We can flip it and turn around and sell it for 200 and something.

So there's a good profit margin there.

That's why people ask, you know, is my Polynesian contract going to go through?

Is my, you know, Riviera contract going to go through?

And I tell him I go listen, Disney to buy back like live stuff, which means products that they're actively selling live is really, really, really rare.

Because for Disney to buy back, say, a Riviera contract that say $120.00 a point, they're going to turn around and sell it for

2:35, but they're only making 100 bucks.

Whereas when they sell Riviera Live, when you buy it direct from Disney, Disney's getting that full 100% profit, that 235, whatever it is, they're getting all that money.

So they're going to be, you know, kind of with that sniper mentality, like let's buy this one back because we can flip it and sell it right away or this one back.

But yeah, like when Paul's report came out, it was like, what the heck?

Like they're buying back.

Like it's just weird.

Like here's some animal Kingdom, here's some of this and that.

Yeah, it's very strange.

Yeah.

And you know, for those of you that maybe are just jumping on the 1st for the first time, you know, Jarrett said.

Can you guys explain briefly how Roefer works and why Disney Vacation Club does this?

You know, this is an element of the club that they put in place strictly for the purpose that we've been discussing, which is to protect the value and also just make sure that this club doesn't turn into what other time shares have become over the years.

Where there people have to literally give them away.

Yeah, yeah, you have to pay.

Someone basically to get rid of your timeshare with Disney Vacation Club.

It's always held a decent value on the resale market and it is partially because of Disney's intervention.

So if you buy a contract, a Disney Vacation Club contract, and you then go to sell it in the future, you sell it to someone.

So I bought a contract.

Amy decides that she wants to buy it for me.

She says I'm going to buy it for $100 per point.

I say great, that sounds perfect.

That contract, before it actually closes and before that sale actually goes through, goes to Disney and it says Paul's selling his contract to Amy for $100.

Are you interested in purchasing this?

And at that point in time they they can say yes or no.

If they say yes, they buy that contract back themselves for that same price per point as agreed upon.

If they say no, our sale goes through and Amy gets the contract.

So basically they have that first right to refuse that contract sale and.

And, and so, and then also they said we're getting a question.

Is there a reason why they pick what they pick?

Sometimes it does feel like they're just throwing darts out of, you know, at a dart board.

We have seen trends before in the past, but then also sometimes there's trends are broken.

So for example, we, we used to say all the time, you know, they, they never take back actively selling resorts.

So if it's something actively selling like Riviera Fort Wilderness, they usually don't take it back.

But with that said, recently we have seen we we saw Grand Floridian take back before it had sold out before Big Pine Key has sold out and we saw them take back Polynesian, you know, prior to it being sold out now that we have the island tower.

So we've seen, well we've seen those trends in motion.

We've also seen them kind of kind of broken.

So sometimes they buy back because, yeah, they just, they need the inventory or they have a, a guest wanting to buy direct and they need those points.

Sometimes it's because they're, you know, they're gonna have, they're gonna put something on sale.

I'm not sure why.

As an example, I think we just saw an animal Kingdom get taken back for the first time in a while.

Correct.

Yeah, first time in a few months.

Yeah, and I was just talking to a member yesterday who was on a Disney cruise and they said they were offering like Animal Kingdom deal.

So, you know, there's just there's little reasons, but there's we have never really been able to nail down exact.

Everyone that's yeah, everyone that's commented so far, yes, the answer is yes to to everything.

You know, Gary said.

I'm with Jeff, absolutely no clue.

They're throwing a dart at a board, you know, see Jeff, you were right.

Maybe, maybe they're seeing prices drop lower than they like.

Masons is stocking up on inventory for a promotion.

But I did see with the Vero Beach one, I thought that was so low.

I was glad they stepped in.

I mean to protect that value.

And the other thing is I did have a member of the community reach out that that reads that blog once a month and there is a little bit of a correlation too related to either UCR or the unit that is being purchased back.

So when, when Disney, when Disney buys back points, they can, they do have the option to change the use year of the points I believe, but they cannot change the unit that the points are associated with.

So like when you buy a contract, you'll see on your contract where it says you own this fractional interest in Unit 4A.

Building #16 of yield QS.

Yeah, and, and my understanding is they can only merge points together in a certain unit.

So if they're sitting on maybe 200 points and someone comes along and they want to buy and a hundred a 300 point contract, they need 100 points more of that specific unit.

So they put that on that radar and then when they find it, they buy it back and they go back to that person and say, hey, we got we have your 300 point contract that you were looking for now.

So all of these are correct answers.

And I don't think you know, there there's a small group of people that you know, we will never actually, you know, talk to that knows the true reasons behind all of this.

But I think all all of the reasons are are certainly correct.

Feel like the people that are making those decisions.

Have you guys watched the show Severance on Apple TV?

Yeah.

When Paul has yeah.

I feel like that's the DVC row for office, like nobody knows I'm at work.

Sorry, Panda from Panda from Beyond came back when I when I came back to this screen and I'm I now don't know how to make him go away, but I did you made.

The dumpster fire No no, no I.

Muted him.

I muted but but everyone said hello.

Everyone heard that part.

That was great.

No, you're.

Fine, you got Panda coming in and out of like a ghost.

We've got Derek bleeding out next to me over.

Here our audio was terrible at first so.

Dumpster fire.

But anyway, I have totally lost my train of thought, but ADVC November.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

I feel like the Roefer department at DVC has to be like severance where they don't even know what happens outside that room.

Like they leave the room and like every their whole reality changes and and whatever.

But I mean, the Vera Beach one was a no brainer.

That one was so low that that was pretty obvious that they were going to step in there.

But the other ones it's just kind of like AI.

Do have a theory about old Key West though.

OK, you want to share, I thought?

You knew nothing?

Yeah.

Well, the law of averages.

I got to get one right every once in a while.

This is like this.

Is this like conspiracy theory?

No, this is just.

Back to the unit buying thing, because there's such a weird like summer 2042, summer 2057, I think they're going to try and flip half that resort.

OK.

The other half to 2050.

Yeah, I've always, I've always thought I.

Think they're starting to buy a specific unit now so that those buildings are all one or one.

Oh.

Just a guess, I don't know.

Instead of trying to like have everything pushed out to 2057, you think that maybe like they can do like a portion.

And that's what I think, yeah, if they're all this unit in that unit, then because.

If the 2042 contracts expire, the 2057 ones are still trucking on.

Then they could still have new pay the dues.

Yeah.

The maintenance of the 2042 ones that are running and I don't think they want Yeah, so I think.

That's maybe maybe revamp and re like.

Do you care?

Like, I love that you all listen to us, but you know we are a hot mess behind the scenes and that's what makes us fun in my opinion.

Why is Why is Panda's video on my phone?

Almost done.

OK.

Spammed you?

Some dude named Connor said the guy on the top right looks a lot like my dad.

We have the same last name.

That's very odd.

Very odd, very odd.

And, and he's got the Chicago Black Sox as his as his picture and you know a thing about Chicago or two.

Yeah, we do.

I know.

Connor, I know a guy that can get you a sheer shirt with your dad.

This year, Next year.

Or it looks a lot like your dad.

Hey.

Love you both.

If you're enjoying our antics here and want to maybe be a part of our next kind of fan weekend coming up, we do have DVC fan Oktoberfest that is coming up October 17th through the 19th 2025 at Disney's Old Key Jeff Resort.

Like like this event at Fort Wilderness.

These events that we have are are not just focused on that resort.

We try to do something at the resort, but we also try to do things that are at different locations so that anyone staying at any Disney Vacation Club property can be a part of it.

So October 17th through the 19th, we have had a lot of people asking us like what is the agenda for that?

I will be 100% honest.

First and foremost, we wanted to survive this weekend first to make sure that we could get through it.

But we have been working on the Oktoberfest schedule.

We will have a rough estimate of it coming out next week, but one of the main reasons we've been holding off is because that Saturday we are hoping to do a fantasmic dessert party as part of this event.

So that will be a paid event, similar to the Hoop Dee Doo paid event that we are doing for Summerfest later tonight.

We have not 100% nailed that down yet though, so keep that in mind if you are planning to come here.

Keep that Saturday night open at this point in time.

I will give you more information as soon as I can.

Whenever Disney events you know gets back to me, we get that contract signed, get everything nailed down.

We've been going back and forth with them a couple different rounds and similar to our paid event for this with Hoop Dee Doo, we will give a pre sale period to our Patreon community and I will tell you that for Hoop Dee Doo, Patreon bought all the tickets, they purchased everything.

Sold out faster than a Taylor Swift concert.

I don't think we will ever get that big.

If so, I hope someone else produces this show so it's not just a dumpster fire like it is when I'm trying to put this together.

I.

Think Taylor Swift ever had audio issues?

Probably not, probably not, but yeah.

So keep that in mind for Oktoberfest.

We do have some other events planned in mind as well.

People are already asking about future Summerfest or DVC fan meet up events.

In the back of our mind, we're thinking of lots of things.

The big thing that I want to share today is something that we're planning for 2026.

I want you to just take this all with a grain of salt because there's a lot of logistics that still need to be worked out.

But draw a big circle around the second-half of July at this point in time and think about joining us on a cruise ship in 2026.

Second-half of July or early August or early.

Yeah, the key was in mind 2026.

Yeah.

Our broader, our broader company, Key Holder Vacations is working to basically put on what we call the Key Holder Vacations cruise.

It is going to be a big part of what our plans are revolving around next year.

We're going to invite you, our DVC fan community to join us on that cruise.

There's also going to be some other influencers, some other partners.

It's going to be an amazing time.

Again, this is roughly in the works at this point.

The Ink is not on a contract yet, so we are not going to announce any official dates.

But I know that a lot of you are tentatively planning your 11 month plans, your 12 month plans where you're going to vacation next year.

So we want you to just tentatively put that on the calendar so that you know that that is a possibility and that will probably be kind of our summer event next year if it does lock in during that date.

Right.

And then we do I really quickly, Mason Keel said.

TT Mobile gives Taylor 3 bars.

So.

We, we have a lot of people asking for a winter fest that if yeah, if we, if we work everything out with the crews and we do that as our summer event next year, our next DVC fan fest will likely be a winter fest.

So something possibly in like January, February or very early March.

Yeah, that would be 2027.

But yes, we, we've heard you, those of you that have asked for a winter fest and summer is hot.

So we can really understand that is definitely in our in our on our list for upcoming.

To the sorry, back to the cruise really quick.

You're not coming right, or you are.

Well, that's a great question and it and it goes to this comment real quick, which is someone said someone by the name of 10 AM beer said you go on a cruise at the ship sinks, you can save Paul, Amy, Jefford, Derek, which one would you save?

Somebody in the comments, yeah.

I was just going to say I didn't think you were allowed to leave the country, so I wasn't sure if you could come.

And that's why you wear my face on your shirt.

Yeah, could keep the memory alive.

Good calls.

Too, I mean.

I'd say Amy, just.

Going to say yes, Say Amy.

Ladies first, yeah.

Well, that'll be your last live stream.

You guys will ever see us?

I was trying to give you guys space on my door.

I'll just hold on to Jeff Carcass like Leo and a piece of wood on Titanic.

Just went dark.

New Orleans Disney mom Barbara said where where can I Click to become a Patreon member?

If you actually go in the description of this, Barbara, you can actually find the link that says become support our show, click on patreon.com/DVC fan that takes you over to our Patreon community.

You can select from one of the tiers there.

So thank you so much for even considering becoming a Patreon member for sure.

So yeah, so we talked about the winter fest.

We talked about the potential cruise for those asking questions about, you know, what that cruise might look like.

We are working with Disney Cruise Line.

So it would be Disney Cruise.

I, I believe it should hopefully be out of Port Canaveral.

A plan is to stop at one or two of the private islands, hopefully 2 if we can.

So both Castaway and Lighthouse Point would be part of that plan.

But again, more definitive details coming in the future.

But I just wanted you to.

So if you're planning your trip and you would love to go on a cruise with us, keep summer open next year so.

Yeah, and then we've got we're thinking towards 2027, doing a winter fest and then doing a spring fest also to align with Flower and Garden Festival because we know that many of our DVC members out there want to come.

10 AM beers back in the comments said save Amy, but also save Jeff's shirt.

That way we got a piece of Jeff and Derek as well.

So literally have the best audience in the whole world.

Jarrett said, saying Amy, of course.

Who else would give good sandwich reviews thank?

You.

I'm sorry guys, I do.

Apologize for anyone that tuned in today's show expecting DVC and Disney news because we're going to be a little bit all over the place.

We do have a little bit of an agenda.

We have some things on a list that we do want to talk about and we're going to get to those next.

But I interacting with you guys in the comments.

So if you have any questions, go ahead and throw them in as Derek is going to tell us a story.

No, I'm not going to tell you a story.

I'm just going to say how cool it is.

And the fact that I remember when we did our first DVC fan events last year, it was where they were just like a meet up at the Boardwalk on the Great Lawn at the Boardwalk.

And we did a meet up over at Disney Springs.

And now all of a sudden to be sitting here, literally to be sitting here and talking about doing things like cruises and doing multiple events and doing all that, That is because of each and every one of you that we would not be having these conversations, not being able to do if you guys weren't out there supporting us and, you know, liking it and sharing it.

And the fact like last night was such a testament.

And the fact that there's 10s of thousands of people watch the shows where it's just people that truly love each other and they love this product.

And we're just all talking to each other.

And the fact that we can plan on doing all these insane events and yeah, it's just, it's amazing.

So thank.

You.

There were two or three interactions last night that I had with people that I thought were the best, which was we had this whole crew of people traveling with us and we would get on a monorail and then someone would turn around on the monorail and go, oh, hey, I love your show.

What are you doing here?

It's like, yeah, there's like 100 of us on this monorail right now.

We're going around doing monorail.

So I just love that there were other people in this community that like, didn't know we were doing the monorail.

Crop and a couple just.

Bumped into them and they were so shocked to see us.

Some of them actually just jumped on board.

Just continued on the on the they jumped on board.

We were at our final stop at the Poly last night and there was a couple of people that were just walking to their room and then all of a sudden they're like, hey, that's is that Derek?

Is that is that man, what's going?

I was just going back to my room like, Oh my God, I watch the show all the time.

Like it's crazy.

Yeah, 1 gentleman came up to me and he just thanked us for all that we do.

He listens to us when he's working out and he's lost over £100.

Amazing.

You know, shout out to you like thank you like that is that is all on you, man.

And you know, congratulations.

We're happy to be just a small part of, you know, all of this, so.

Well, that's what we always talk about is the fact that, you know, we do these shows and that's why I love doing knees is because we actually get to be in the same room with each other and talk with each other and it just we are.

Touching his knee right now.

Thank you for making it creepy.

But yeah, so that's what makes this race.

Creepy long, but it.

Was creepy yesterday.

It's just.

Being able to know and folks coming up and telling us how they watched the show was one of my favorite things because it goes everywhere from you know, we listen to you guys when we work out, we listen to you and we have breakfast.

We listen to you on long car rides.

We listen to you in Ireland as we have our wine and beer and then we.

Northern Ireland.

Northern Ireland.

I got to make sure.

Sorry, MO.

Sorry, MO.

But yeah.

So we just love knowing that because we just love doing the shows just with each other.

And again, there's no agenda.

I mean, yeah, we kind of know what we're talking about, but no one knows what the other person's going to say.

And so the fact that you guys take onto it and listen to it in so many different ways, it's just, it's crazy.

It's so cool.

Yeah, and my face hurt last night from smiling and laughing so much and my throat, I noticed that two hours.

Yes, I noticed that.

I was like, oh, my face hurts because I smiled so much last night.

So really just I just I know we're talking about it again.

But yeah, that was right.

Yeah, we should talk.

I know you have an agenda.

But you have the agenda I watched the agenda I want to talk about.

Yeah.

It's originally where Reflections was going to be and then Reflections got axed and now came back with a new name, very similar concept.

Most of what we've seen work minus of the information.

We're kind of relying on what we had from Reflections to begin with.

But I have seen that.

We have watched a little bit of the building progress of Lakeshore Lodge.

We've watched, you know, we've seen some aerial footage and things like that from different sites, looked at it and looked at it and from Copper Creek multiple times recently.

And I had no idea until we got here yesterday how imposing Lakeshore lodges on Fort Wilderness.

I thought there was a little more separation.

It is basically.

We're in the lobby.

Yeah, we're basically setting.

It is hovering over Pioneer Hall and just taking up a lot of that shore space right there.

And so it is at Fort Wilderness.

I want to go see.

Can we go?

Can someone take me like go on a golf cart after we do the show?

OK, good, good.

So when we go to our meet up at Caucus Tavern, you will not miss it, trust me.

You can throw a bowling ball and like, you know, yeah, bowl a strike right into the main lobby from.

Crockett's Tavern, Yeah.

So I feel like.

It's pretty crazy.

It's.

It's so unfortunately it's similar to like if you if you didn't enjoy how much the island tower changed the landscape of the feel like.

It's pretty crazy.

It's it's so unfortunately, it's similar to like if you, if you didn't enjoy how much the island tower changed the landscape of the Polynesian and you're a big Fort wilderness person.

I can see where you're going to not, not like what's going on over here because it is changing the landscape.

You used to look and you just saw trees and there's this giant over like shadowing over looming tower just kind of hanging over it.

And then Paul brought up something yesterday when we were coming back and he said, you know, it's, it's here, it's at Fort Wilderness.

I don't know how they don't incorporate Lakeshore Lodge and the cabins into the same association because it is literally here.

It's this.

It's at this property.

Yeah.

So to clarify, people that maybe have not listened before maybe didn't catch some of our shows when when Fort Wilderness was brought on as a Disney vacation called property, it was actually the first property that was deeded into a trust.

So it's called the Palmetto Trust.

And essentially rather than getting an ownership interest in the Fort Wilderness cap, so it's like like we always say like Jeff owns like the door knob to Unit 76 at Old Key West.

But like that you have a deeded ownership in that resort.

With Fort Wilderness, it is the first where you have a deeded ownership into the Palmetto Trust and you are able to use collectively what is in the trust and that is where it, it, it a lot of speculation about what that means.

There's a, you know, we continuously are looking at filings and things.

When it was originally filed, there was like a, a plot zone that included that Lakeshore Lodge area.

So a lot of people kind of assumed at that point that maybe if they did come back and rebuild in that area that they would do, you know, actually include it in Fort Wilderness.

Everything is pointing to that.

I'm, you know, again, no official Disney confirmation.

We do not know this as a fact.

But from what Amy said, like it is there, you can literally just walk out the door and in like 20 steps, you are right there at Pioneer Hall and you are in Fort Wilderness.

The the front entrance is staring straight at the Tri.

Circle.

Circle D Ranch, so it is all right here at Fort Wilderness.

So it is like it is even closer than I would say like Boulder Ridge is to Copper Creek.

It's that Oh.

You got.

That too.

What?

Yes, yes, wait till you go.

Over.

You know what it reminds me of?

Honestly, I was thinking about this yesterday because we took the dogs up and roamed around.

It reminds me of the old medieval big castle where the Lords and ladies live and then the tents out front where the peasants live.

Yeah, it was 100%.

Monty Python, yeah.

Yeah.

Because this happens are like triangle.

They're gonna be triangle.

They I I'm not gonna lie.

It's gonna be a cool resort, yes, but it's gonna change Fort wilderness.

Yes, forever.

So here's my question as someone who, again, who hasn't been here in a long time, will it change it meaning the views like for a normal person, like where we are, that's not going to change.

Like I can't see it from from here.

No, my day-to-day life in here because the area's so big.

But it's when you go to the boats, right?

So it's when you go to the boats to get to the Magic Kingdom or do all that, that's when.

You see it, it's down on that end of the resort, but it's more imposing even you are.

But if you are, if you are like standing in front of Pioneer Hall, where Hoop Dee Doo is here is Lakeshore Lodge right in front of you, It is, it is like, like you're going to have people that are staring down.

Will there be people that have views?

Like my view right now is of trees and you see the blue sky and it's beautiful.

Are there going to be cabins that literally you sit in your cabin and you look at?

Cabins maybe not, but campsites for sure.

Yeah.

OK.

So OK, so the campsites are closer to.

This site OK, Yeah, OK.

For wilderness, very large resort, you know you got to use the internal buses or have a golf cart to get around pretty much where the the horse trail rides start from.

That's where you pick it up.

That's where the buses to go to.

The parks are located in the front.

The cabins are all the cabin loops are in the front of the resort.

Then as you get, as you go further back, then you start getting into like the RV, the RV loops, the tech loops and then all the way in the back, it's, it's just more RV intent.

And then you get the back of the resort, which is where Pioneer Hall is, the lake, the boats, the the settlement settlement outpost, that shop in the middle.

There's the Meadow area too.

But all the way at the end is where Lakeshore Lodge is.

So it's opposite end of the resort as the cabin.

So as a DVC member, if you're staying here in the Fort Wilderness Cabins, you're not going to be, you're not actually going to have Lakeshore Lodge in your sight line.

But it does change the landscape of what is like one of the more congregated popular parts of the resort where there's a playground and there's a shop in Pioneer Hall and all your dining pretty much is over there as well.

So.

And I know the people on that in this room can't see this, but if you look at that picture, see all that sky behind you?

Yeah, that's a hotel now.

Yeah.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Yeah, just talking about what's behind us.

Basically everything that you see in that festival.

There are no trees here.

Yeah, it's all this is all Lakeshore Lodge back through here.

So yeah, that's a great.

That's a it.

Dominates over the whole, so you have.

Like, oh, it dominates.

Yeah.

Over these little tiny yes.

Oh my God.

Yeah, a lot of different questions here, you know, just about, you know, the amenities and things.

I do believe that they're probably going to use that same boat dock that is currently at Fort Wilderness.

That said, I would hope that they're going to do like what they did when the Poly Tower came online, which was get some bigger boats and more frequent boats.

Because here's the thing, we're talking about the Poly Tower.

That was maybe someone correct me in the comments if I'm wrong, Like what, 300 units or so?

The Pauley Island Tower when it came on.

This is 900.

Rooms.

900 rooms you are you are rivaling.

Yeah, you are.

Rivaling Saratoga Springs as one of the large Yeah.

In the form.

Of a tower.

So now it all centralized.

More condensed, Yeah, more concentrated area.

A lot of people are questioning food.

We assume that there's going to be a quick service.

We would assume that plans that were originally announced previously when this was reflections, there were plans for a Princess and the Frog kind of resort that was kind of area that was right there restaurant.

Why did I say resort?

Sorry, I got distracted by by something, but Princess and the Frog restaurant that was going to happen.

So like a lot of that kind of stuff, you know, I I think is still planned.

I think they took the, you know, original designs for reflections and they're building that I think.

So at this point, there's no doubt they're building that big T best golf cart right now.

We've got we've got the one and only Jeff and Dan headed that way.

So hi, Jeff and Dan, how we doing?

Hey, can you hear can you hear us?

We can hear you.

We can.

See.

Take that, Taylor Swift.

Perfect.

Yeah, look.

At that.

How's the wilderness doing out there today?

It's toasty warm.

She's warm, she's warm.

Yeah, we, they got the golf cart.

They got the golf cart that we got for the weekend and kudos to Jeff and Dan for kind of decking that golf cart out.

We got some lights.

There is a Dory on on the top there.

But we sent them over to the Lakeshore Lodge area.

I think maybe.

Oh no, we're going to show the golf cart here.

We got a, we're a little bit delayed because of the wonderful Internet here at at Fort Wilderness, but yeah, look at the handiwork on that.

That thing's going to glow in the dark tonight.

You're not going to miss us.

Drive it around Fort Wilderness.

We've also got Dory.

Dory.

I spent about, you know, 20 minutes getting Dory kind of put up on the top there.

But are you guys over in the Lakeshore Lodge area?

We are I'm going to try and flip this to the back camera.

So I want you guys to see so I'm standing looking at Pioneer Hall when I flip it so the entrance to hoop you do and then.

Nope, he's gone.

I mean, he tried for a second.

I'm sure he'll he'll he'll come back in in a second, hopefully the there.

We go.

Apparently when you flip it, it didn't allow him.

When you flip it, it really didn't.

It didn't like it, but.

Back.

Yeah, he's back.

And there you go.

So it.

Didn't like it, but here this is.

This is when you flip the camera.

So I'm standing looking and there it is.

Oh man, yeah.

It really.

It really towers over it and takes away the the camp feel of the campgrounds.

Yeah, I mean, that is where previously we had some nice trees.

It was a nice wooded area.

I mean it, it was nice and.

Before, you could also walk over and see fireworks from the shore there, and now that'll be all that.

Isn't most of it going to be glass?

Like, isn't it going to be very glassy resort?

It's going to be very similar thing to like Island Tower or the other more recent properties.

So like even Riviera, you're going to see actually the far side to the left of where you're standing right now.

They're already putting in some of the glass sliding doors so you can see some glass if you would, you know, walk all that way.

And then lining to the right, lining the beach area is some of the like I call them teepee cabins at this point, which was part of the original design of Fort, not Fort Ordinance reflections.

Yeah, you can actually.

Yeah, I think he's going to get get closer here so we can see it.

Yeah, I'm going to.

I'm going to walk over here.

I'm trying to trying to make it not so Blair Witchy so.

No, you know.

It's this whole this whole production's been Blair Witch for the past hour.

So, you know, the fact that 278 people are still tuning in is is pretty crazy.

But and there's our Fort wilderness sign.

Dan, this is your first time over in that area.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You know, correct?

You know, is this pretty imposing to you?

What are you?

What were your first impressions when you saw?

So I mean #1 it's all cement right now in scaffolding.

But I think my first, my first look of it is my thoughts are, you know, the, the point of wilderness Lodge and in, in, in this area, sorry for wilderness is, is, you know, the buildings are short, right?

They're made out of logs and they're all brown And there, there's a lot of, of, of, of foliage around.

And I feel like now you're going to walk up and go to Hoop Dee Doo and you're going to see this, you know, modern building behind it, and it's probably going to pull you out a little bit of the of.

Yeah, it it, yeah.

And I think Amy, did you say this morning to me it's like you're, it's like you're right there.

Like, I mean, as we're getting closer.

Like.

It's like, look, I mean, it's, it's going to be the end of the arcade.

I mean, this is the arcade to our left.

Yeah.

You're going to have this little cast area back there, a tree, and then boom, it's it's.

It's almost like, it's almost like we you, you drive up here and you don't, you no longer see the outpost and you no longer see the sediment.

Now you just see, you see the, the, the new, the new building going.

Out.

Yeah, yeah.

And then as I pan over here, there's the the structure of the teepees that Paul was talking about.

And that's, and that's the wild part is that some of these cabins are right there, like you could walk out.

That was the beach where people would come to watch fireworks walk out your.

Walk out your front or back door in the morning and you know, you head straight into Fort Wilderness to grab your food.

It's probably going to be quicker for people staying at those cabins to, you know, jump in to the.

There's what's the quick service, a bigger boat.

Yeah, they get people to Magic Kingdom, but yeah, the, well, I don't know.

I think you'll.

You'll still be able to watch the fireworks.

I mean, we see a fence right now, right?

But once the building is once this is off, we'll probably be able to walk out into that area.

But you maybe they'll have like a new viewing past on the other side of these these structures.

Yeah, yeah, Pretty, you know, it was very inconsistent.

One part of the resort was telling us to take watercraft.

The other part said that there might be a bus here.

They're going to have to run consistent buses, I feel, from all this area or build a new boat dock or something to add to that transportation need because you cannot just drop a 900 room resort right in the middle of this area and expect, you know.

They've got to step it up on because like.

But I will give Disney.

Infrastructure I will give Disney.

Credit because we we were all very concerned when it came to the Polynesian Island Tower and the effects that it would have on transportation from the Polynesian.

We were there last night.

I didn't necessarily feel that, nor have I heard rumblings in the community that have specifically said like, there's a big.

Definitely not as bad as people thought it was going to be there.

There's still issues.

And at certain times of the day there's always going to be issues.

You know, any, any time there's traffic going One Direction to the other, that's just the way it is.

But I didn't feel last night was any worse than it was.

Yeah, two years ago.

And those asking about the A frames, yes, we're we're pretty sure those are going to be cabins along the lake.

So those will be some pretty cool accommodation.

Yeah, again, all of that was part of the original Reflections concept.

Someone earlier in the comments said, yeah, they're just using those blueprints and they ran with it.

Jeff, you and I were talking this morning, you know, you're an engineer and I, I kind of asked you the question, You know, right before COVID in 2019, they had a lot of the underground infrastructure in place.

You can't just like like that.

That is kind of designed for the blueprint that is going to sit on top of it, correct?

Yeah, I mean, and yeah, you never know.

Like what we talked about the, the, the electrical and the plumbing and everything laid there and I mean it just kind of sat so you just, you just wonder like what, what really?

Is it benefiting?

And stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

And back to the transportation thing.

Right now when you're doing a boat from Fort Wilderness, correct me if I'm wrong because I haven't done it yet.

We tried last night, as Paul said, and there was a lot of miscommunication, but you're basically sharing a boat with Wilderness Lodge, correct?

There's one that goes One Direction and drops off both, one that goes the other direction, drops off both.

Once that opens, I don't think there's any way that they can.

They'll need separate.

Needs to have a dedicated Yeah Fort Wilderness.

Yeah, or even a dock down by Lakeshore further could be so 2 docks, you know, multiple boats running.

But yeah, it, it's going to be a beautiful resort.

I just, it's just very much, you have to know it is very much part of Fort Wilderness.

Yeah, right there.

Jeff and Dan are standing like right at the end of the boat dock right now on the beach is kind of the the end of if he pans to the right, that's where the boat dock for the the current Fort Wilderness is.

So it's out, out that way.

And the boats are picking people up and that's there's a boat there right now.

Look at that.

Perfect.

Yeah.

So boats leaving?

Yep.

The boats leaving now, you know, that's a bigger boat already.

The fact that they're utilizing a bigger boat already to this area just furthers.

They're going to have to either run more frequent boats or bigger boats to this part of the resort.

Right there straight in front.

Is that those are those, you know, TP like cabins.

So those are going to be great A-frame cabins from last count.

I think there's going to be upwards of maybe close to 20 to 25 of those if they they line this section.

And then there's that tree area that you see off to the upper right.

Currently that is where that Princess and the Frog restaurant that was originally announced as part of Reflections looks to be and there is a lot of framing in that in that section.

So I assume that we are going to get a restaurant in that area, if not that exact copy and paste concept of what was there.

And then if you've seen the concept of this, a lot of people say Lakeshore Lodge looks like Kadani because of how that you know that how that long area goes.

So, you know, I'm, I'm guessing that I'm guessing that might be.

That was cool that we got to see it.

Yeah, yeah, Jeff, Jeff, the video cut out so I don't know if that was on you or oh, we're back now.

So yeah, I mean that that area back there is where the.

There's some nice.

Things go, yeah.

I like the Jeff and Dan are like war correspondents like and now we're going out on the field to Jeff and Dan the.

Hurricane last year I did the same.

Thing from right?

And it's it is, it is like blazing hot and I can't even see the.

Screen OK, so we will let you guys.

Bring you guys our we'll bring our correspondents back to the cabin and let you guys get back in here to.

See.

Thank you guys both for kind of jumping out there and the last thoughts of being out there just.

Freezing hot and I can't even see the screen.

OK.

So we will let.

You guys we'll.

Bring you guys our we'll bring our correspondents back to.

The view on it, I'd buy one from Debbie's command, I think is how you say it.

I'm not sure how you say it, but yeah anyway.

Oh, that's funny.

If you want merch, you let us know and we'll we'll see what we can do.

People don't want merch with our faces on them.

This one person does, yeah.

1.

Person.

There's two people.

One's wearing one.

We did make, I don't know if we have any Amy, you can maybe duck into the the bedroom and grab one.

But we did make DVC fan pins for this weekend.

So the DVC fans.

There's some right there, yeah.

So this was a cool little thank you gift that we're giving people.

Can never get it to.

Throughout the weekend we got a lot of people that are pin traders in the community, so we wanted to make sure that they they got something.

Hopefully this is not something that like you choose trade trade.

Dustin said if I do my hand, it'll like refocus a little bit, but I don't know how to hold it like that, so let's see.

Oh yeah.

Oh, there you go.

Look at that.

Dustin, we're keeping you around.

Look at that.

Pin We gave these out last night and then we are giving them out as well for those coming to our our meet up at Hoop Dee Doo.

So very cool little custom DVC fan.

Summerfest logo pin.

Not an official Disney fan so don't go trying to trade it they'll.

They'll say no.

Yeah.

But yeah, we're really excited about that.

And then I think Paul's got some really a really cool idea for Oktoberfest in the works.

So that's gonna be a lot of fun.

We'll have a little custom gift for those of you that make it out to you.

What?

Do you think of Derek?

What do you think of Oktoberfest?

Well, I think it's always funny when people talk about like, I really want a winter fest and everyone's like, so excited.

They're like, Oh my God, Winter fest will be so much different from when it's 90 in Summerfest.

It'll be 80 winter fest.

Like really Like when I think of Winterfest, I'm like, Oh my God, Moon boots and jackets and snowball fights.

It's like, yeah, it's going to be like borderline pleasant.

That's that's the big.

Difference to the question.

No, it's OK.

I love where he took it.

And so we just kind of rolled with it.

Well, this is.

A really nice like rubber backing on it, yeah.

I don't know a lot about pins, yeah.

We've got pins that we bring into Hoop Dee Doo so that everyone there gets one as well.

So Shannon didn't get one?

Last time, Sorry, Shannon, I must have missed you.

I was the one giving them out too.

I saw her like very at the very, very end.

So what?

I think they're coming to Hoopty Doo, right?

They're coming.

All right, Yeah, we'll get you one.

Come see us so we'll.

See you guys tonight.

I think it's fine.

It it we still have a minute to talk about what Dan and Jeff just showed us.

Yeah, you you actually got to see it so.

Yeah, give us, give us some.

We'll see it later.

But I think it's one of those rare moments where I think thinking of folks, because everyone always, you know, complaints about Disney fans and they always complain about change.

You know, I don't want anything to change, but I want new stuff.

I think this is the first time that I'd feel justified if I was someone who has so many memories here at this resort.

And the reason you came here to this resort is that you felt like you were in a different world.

And you felt like, yes, you had the theme parks available, but everything was so far away that I think for the first time in a long time, I feel like it's justified.

Like, I feel like I would be upset because I not saying there's anything wrong with them doing it.

They have the right to do it.

But if I was someone who came to the cabins and have, you know, years, let alone decades of memories at these cabins to know that my skyline, everything, just from what I've seen, I haven't even seen it in person.

It's going to change that drastically.

I'm like, I don't know if I'd be thrilled with that, you know, So to hear people complain, you know, and be like, God, it's not the same as it used to be.

Most of the time it's just people complaining.

But I feel like this is so different because it does.

You're taking something from at least like on the monorail, you've had buildings of multiple stories anyway.

You had the contemporary, you had, you know, you have the Grand Floridian, you had this.

This is going from nothing into like hi here we are.

We talked about it earlier in the show.

We talked about it as we were driving in here about this the specialness of of Fort wilderness in the campgrounds are that you don't feel like you're at Disney, right.

That definitely changes when you have this giant monstrosity of a hotel.

Oh, why don't they just put a shining Mickey Mouse head right up on the top and we'll just call it a day.

You know, it's like right it it it does change thing and you know with Polly, there's a lot of complaints about that too.

It changes the skyline of seven seas lagoons.

But Disney was able to get away with that a little bit because it was kind of already planned that way.

There's concept art from the 60s and 70s where they were designing it right in the lobby there on the 2nd floor.

This is this is all new and this is going to be hard for some people to swallow, I feel.

Like I can't even imagine because you know, as Jeff was driving me in, it was that was one of the cool things was like, man, I don't even feel like I'm a Disney World.

Like this is really kind of cool.

Now I kind of see the vibe and I love it.

I can't imagine if I just kept going and all of a sudden I saw that giant colossal building.

And I mean, there is an and you mentioned it and you guys did too.

There's no debate on if this is going to be part of the same association.

There's absolutely.

I would bet 999,000% that they will not make this.

Derek people debated that with us.

We knew that the Poly Tower was part of the Polynesian.

There's going to be debate.

We had official documentation that it was and people still did not believe have.

A short term memory problem.

Not till it opens, will it?

Maybe, maybe it will, maybe it won't.

But Derek, I mean, yes, that we look at Fort Wilderness Cabins is not selling that much.

When we look at like direct sales, you see month over month direct sales for a place like the Polynesian right now or Riviera you're talking about, you know 60708090 a 100,000 points sold in a month.

Fort Wilderness Cabins maybe 5000 like.

Well, and, and even just just look at the resale market.

So we saw the 1st Riviera contracts go on sale before Riviera opened, like a couple months before Riviera opened.

And then we saw the first Disneyland Hotel Villas or Disneyland Villas go on sale a few months after Disneyland Villas opened.

Fort Wilderness.

I think there was one contract sold by a different broker this whole time and it wasn't too long ago and that's it.

We've not seen.

We had, we did have that one contract that you wrote about that actually the sellers actually decided to retain that contract.

So as far as I know, we have seen one resale Fort Wellness contract because there's just not that many owners out there.

I mean, there are some obviously, but it's just not selling that fast, so.

Well, yeah, because the people that buy it are the people that want it and the people that love it.

It's not just like buying points for points or, oh, I found a good deal.

If you're buying this place, you're buying it because you love it.

Yeah, you're buying.

Yeah, you want it and you're not going to sell it.

It's buying.

This resort is not a whimsical.

I'm on vacation.

I went on tour and I fell in love with the concept of DVC.

I like paying $13 a month in dues or $13 point in dues.

And that's why so if you keep it as part, if Lakeshore Lodge also includes this, it's such a no brainer because my God, if I was a family and I went on tour at Lakeshore Lodge, right?

And you see all the one bedrooms, the studios, the A-frame cabins, everything else.

And then they say, and just so you know, you also have these cabins.

So when you want to maybe end your trip or you want to do something completely different and for the folks that buy here, you know what I mean?

It's such an absolute no brainer as people always say, that I say you're.

Playing the drinking game at.

Home.

You're playing the drinking game at home.

Well, I put it kind of in a different perspective.

We've talked to some folks last night that are staying here at the Cabins for Summerfest, but they didn't have points.

They only resell points and obviously direct can only be used here.

So they bought cash.

They paid cash for this.

How much did they pay?

So that's the point I'm getting at.

You think about Grand Floridian, you think about Polynesian, you think about Old Key West, you think about Saratoga.

You're 456800A night depending on the time of year.

What kind of combinations?

305, I think they said a night for the weekend.

With the annual pass discount, I we talked to, yeah, I talked to them too, yeah.

And that's that's, that's what they were selling cash price the old cabins.

For yeah, there's.

So you would think that now that they're fresh and new that they could sell them at a little bit more of a premium, but they're just not as popular among, you mean they're popular among the people who love the con, the Fort wilderness, right?

Well.

And the point, the point that I was getting at was, you know, if it's only moderate level prices, yeah, if you're talking about Coronado or, or Port Orleans, why would you buy a DVC contract when you can stay here for a couple of nights here and there?

Right and.

Use your points elsewhere.

Is due.

So yeah, yeah, I would love to see it become part of Lakeshore just to bring the dues down, make it more attainable.

And I would love if it was both.

I would still love to have a contract, but I still need more.

I'm laughing because I'm watching cabin Cam drive back up in front of our cabin.

Cam is that.

Yeah, Cabin Cam's arriving back home.

Fresh off duty.

No, we've said this since day one.

You know, from the dog perspective, the fact that the cabins could have dogs, we were very enticed by that.

Unfortunately, you can only have two dogs as compared to three, even though at the front desk yesterday the lady goes, do you have dogs?

And I'm like, yeah, we got three big dogs.

Oh, you should bring them next time.

And I'm like, I don't think that's how it works.

Yeah.

Also another funny thing, I just have to say this, this is great.

Those of you, you know that one of the big rules that came out was that you can't have dogs on the furniture here.

And when you go into outposts, which is basically where you check in, they have a like a board called Wilderness or Fort Wilderness Furry Friends.

And it's pictures of people with their dogs, you know, you know, enjoying Fort Wilderness.

And so many of them are pictures of dogs laid on the furred on the Murphy bed.

And they like, they're just displaying them all over the lobby.

So yeah, I just thought that was funny.

That made me laugh.

They're.

Playing pretty fast and loose with the.

They are kind of playing a little fast and loose with the roles, so it makes me wonder.

Andrew asked in the comments.

This question for you, Derek, is it?

Is it still just a trailer to you?

You know, Andrew, that's a great question.

So technically, yes, it probably is.

However, it is really, really nice when you're inside.

I mean, we've got a whole group of people in here right now.

We have 123456788.

Just some miscellaneous people doing stuff and everything else.

I think it'd be perfect for like 2-4.

If you got 4, you got to love them.

So you gotta love the people.

If you've got four people here, yeah.

It would be tight quarters for a family of 6.

A couple of them have to be small kids.

I can't even imagine how you could do it.

And I don't wanna use the term trailer.

Yeah.

Right.

I think a modular home is a better example.

Yeah, because it doesn't have the trailer fill the trailer hitches.

It's.

And the ceiling of it, so it's got a slope ceiling, so it doesn't have that like box ceiling.

So it does feel different here.

It's got the windows up front, not that you guys can see, but it's got a beautiful view up front, huge, you know, floor to ceiling windows over there overlooking it.

So yeah, no, it, it definitely changed my mind.

I think it's really, really cool.

Again, am I going to use my precious, you know, 170 DVC points that I have to be able to come and stay here?

Probably not.

But but I love being able to be here.

But but we would, we've already talked about this making, making it a once a year.

You are.

Right, yeah, Amy and I, we've, we love bringing in our dogs and we've had a great time.

I love it that Amy and Paul had no idea what Derek and I just said for the last 5 minutes because of goings on outside the patio.

You know it, it's it is I want to tell you all, it is one thing to produce this show when we're all virtual and a lot of you ask like why we've not gone back into an in person setting.

All This is why, yes, there is so much information overload happening and when you get us all together, we're all just such silly gooses that we can't actually just focus on what we're really doing.

So at least we can focus on things when, you know, when or in that virtual setting and we can kind of control that environment.

But, you know, there's ongoings back here.

People are making sandwiches, you know, people are enjoying drinks.

And then cabin Cam gets back.

And then something like happened outside GGG.

Yeah.

See, I'm distracted by being cabin Cam.

I guess this is cabin camp.

But then someone just dropped something off on the on the picnic table.

And I have no idea what this is, but what's in the box?

Totally for you.

What's in the box for me?

Yep.

So this dropping off, thank you.

Thank you to whoever we.

Don't know who.

What figured out where we were at?

Or maybe they followed golf cart Cam back you.

Did show that.

Devo got part.

Oh my God.

Oh my goodness, what's?

In the box.

What's in the box?

Jeff's over here trying to do his Brad's Pitt impersonation

from 7:00.

Oh, Oh my.

Definitely.

Oh, what?

The it's a remote control.

Wally.

What remote control Wally?

Someone would.

Tell us who that was.

Oh my God, on our deck, who put.

Did it come with a card?

I don't.

Know no.

There's instructions.

What is Oh my.

God all soul just left his body.

He.

Did.

And then I I feel like I can, yeah.

I want to know how they found you.

Do they triangulate like our signal with?

I feel like they had to have followed golf cart Cam back or.

Or just saw it.

We just happened to realize.

Happened to realize.

Where we were or anything?

That is the cutest thing I've ever seen.

Yeah, this is.

So.

Cute.

Say goodbye to your husband Amy.

Say bye, Paul.

Moving, moving around.

Oh my God.

I can't, yeah.

I don't have any cameras where I can show you where I'm driving them around.

And I'm scared to put them on the table or else this feed will just.

That'll be the end of this show, ladies and gentlemen, for sure.

Even if I put them on the floor right now, there's so many cables everywhere that no, it would not go well.

But thank you whoever dropped off this.

Literally just just dropped him off that is.

Insane.

So cool.

For those out there watching, I really like Sorcerer Mickey a lot.

My goodness.

All right.

We're just these poor people are just getting like texts you had.

You had an agenda for this show.

What have we not talked about So?

I really think actually the last.

Thank you whoever brought that.

Last thing was going to be that's amazing taking questions that was that was kind of the last bit.

So let me just take a really quick look because I know we talked about.

Lisa, are you who dropped that off?

You commented earlier with a :) and so and then you said a big fan of the show delivering.

Always she has to be nearby, okay, And hopefully she's going to be there tonight and we'll see her.

Lisa, thank you so much.

That was very.

Sweet, thank you.

Yeah, okay.

So we talked about 50 do, we talked about Oktoberfest, we talked about the cruise, we talked about the cabin, Lakeshore Lodge, right, for sure usual.

So yeah, the last thing on my list was that we would take some questions.

Yeah, we want to definitely get to your questions.

As part of this live stream, we said, you know, we were going to chat about, you know, all things Disney and DVC.

We were getting some as we were going, but I yeah, it's kind of, it was kind of hard to keep track.

Did we finish?

Who was going to perish on the cruise ship or right now?

I hate to tell you this, but nobody said that they were going to save either of the three of you.

Sorry.

While the questions are coming in, this is an easy one just to go.

While the questions are coming in, easy one just to go around the room with Nick said.

Just question for the group.

What is everyone's favorite BBC resort?

So, Jeff?

God right now, she said.

No, not me.

OK, never mind.

Good.

Right now it's it's the Polynesian.

Yeah, that's my favorite resort on property right now, specifically the tower.

I am a really big fan of those rooms.

So that's that's an easy 1 for me.

Yep, there.

Well, I'm going to overall resort.

If I had one resort that I could use my points at only for the rest of my life would be Vero Beach.

Easy done.

We had that conversation with you last night, like you and Annie have already been talking about like.

Yeah, because she said to me, she's like, you know, maybe when the kids are older, maybe we could sell the membership.

Not that she wants to, you better not.

But it was like, yeah, you know, I guess we could technically do it because the kids are older.

And I go, I'm like, no, because I'm going to keep it if for only reason.

Then we and I was talking to great folks last night that it's like I've got a beach house.

If I only use my points at Vero Beach, I've got a beach house 2 hours away that I could go at, you know, 7-8, maybe 9 nights every single year to be able.

So if I only use it at Vero, that's it.

I'd be completely happy.

Yep, Amy.

So, OK, so for me, OK, first I do, I just want to say Lisa said it was not her that dropped off Wally.

So we don't know who it was.

So it's still a mystery.

Mystery Wally.

We'll be finding out the mystery, Wally.

Hopefully tonight.

Drop her.

Yeah, definitely tonight because they're obviously here.

I, I, I go back and forth between two resorts and it's just just depend on how I'm feeling, which one I've been to recent, more recently.

But for me it's Boardwalk and Grand Floridian.

I think that you can't go wrong with the theming of either of them.

I love, you know, I think they have some really amazing views.

You get a Boardwalk view, you're looking at Crescent Lake.

I love being able to walk to two parks and I really enjoy just how close you are at Boardwalk.

Just so much good food and also I just, I just like we used to go to live with New Jersey and so it's kind of like an Atlantic City type boardwalk feel, only less sketchy.

Just a cleaner, nicer version.

So I just like I get that feel when I'm there.

Grand Floridian for me has always been to me has always been like the crown jewel of Disney World.

You know, it's the one that you see like in a lot of the commercials and well, when you dream of, I used to think of, you know, we have to hit the Powerball to be able to stay at Grand Floridian and now we get to stay there.

We've not hit the Powerball.

We've not hit the Powerball.

We just found DVC.

So, you know, I've always loved it.

I've always loved for Boardwalk and Grand Floridian.

I've loved how light and cheery and whimsical they can be.

You know, I just really love that, that bright, cheery kind of, you know, room, the Victorian, a concept of Grand Floridian.

So yeah, just those those two, I just can never pick between them.

Yeah.

I think for me, what's great about this question is that it evolves in nature.

So you ask me, when we first started into the club, obviously we our first home resort was Animal Kingdom Lodge.

We still love that resort.

We still love it, yeah.

But as as things evolve over time and you experience the resorts more and the resorts change or they get upgrades, you know those those decisions change.

I for me right now, the answer is the Polynesian.

Actually, I have fallen in love with the island tower and have not actually slept there yet.

Which is funny, he's saying the Polynesian 'cause I think it was at the bottom of your list.

It used to be.

Earlier in our DVC journey.

And that was again, it's just as I.

Mentioned it changes.

You know, the refurbishment that they did to the main longhouses there turned those things into what I questioned where mold was growing and turned it into a much brighter, you know, wonderful resort.

And Island Tower just screams Alani.

Like even last night, you know, it rained last night for a monorail crawl and we were questioning where to go and we were like that.

The main, you know, ceremonial houses just down here I disliked.

But now I'm turning more and more into a fan of is like the Copper Creek Boulder Ridge area.

Because I.

Agree.

It it gives us those screaming feels, you know, same for you, it gives you those feels.

A home a little bit has all those trees even being here at Fort Wilderness.

I love this, I love this property.

Love zooming around on a golf cart, you know, early in the morning and and kind of driving around the resort.

It's just, it's, it's funny how these questions change as you, as you grow in your DVC ownership.

And it's, I think it's fun to watch how you know, you all, you know, you become a member, you buy somewhere and then you experience the resort, you go somewhere else in that zero to seven month window.

And then before you know it, you're on the phone with Derek or another agent at the DVC.

Resale market going well.

I need this resort now.

DVC is, you know, as much as people make it a financial purchase, it is very, very much an emotional purchase and you resonate with resorts that you hold memories at.

And so, you know, as we start, continue to experience these resorts, you know, we continue to have amazing memories of Vera Beach, amazing memories at, you know, just everywhere so far that we've gone.

And and it's just, it's so hard to choose a favorite resort when you're just experiencing all these, you know, great you.

Mentioned Vero Beach and I love you so much but I want you to step out for a second 'cause I want I want want a Golf Club camp to come in for a second I want you to come over here for a second 'cause we did get a question so if you didn't see a couple weeks ago we actually were we were at Vero Beach for Tour de turtles and we put out a video about Tour de turtles but 4 kids mom here this is Dan DVC Dan hi everybody else of you that haven't but it didn't get to see him too there's one person classic person person with a round of applause on this show today so far he.

Sacrificed himself on a golf cart.

So if Dan was on the cruise ship, would you save him versus Amy?

That's the new question.

For those of you on Patreon this morning, I did win the the Trail Mix Jar.

You did, you did.

So 4 kids.

Mom said maybe I missed it but from tour run did Dan and Jeff acquire ADVC contract from Vero Beach?

Oh gosh, we haven't yet.

We haven't.

We had, we literally said during the live show we just need to pull the trigger and do it so.

Not even during the live show was it Vero Beach.

But I can tell you that you know, these two, everyone in this room are dear friends of ours.

But we, we do travel a lot with Jeff and Dan and we end up in DVC resorts a lot, a lot with Jeff and Dan.

And every time I'm in a resort, it does not matter if it's Vero Beach.

We've been here in the cabins of Fort Wilderness today and they're like, we love it here.

We should say we should, we should just get a contract here.

It's perfect.

But you and I talked about this earlier.

It's the love of DVC and it's the love of experiencing these resorts, I think.

Yeah, So what I, what I pointed out was, is, you know, if you're buying into the vacation club every time you step on property, you wanna have that feeling, right.

So you, you definitely made the right move if you bought into, into a resort and every time you go to that resort or even any other piece of property and, and you just get excited and you just get happy that you're there, you 100% made the right move.

So when we got on property yesterday and, and you know, we drove in, we had never been to this part of, of the resort.

And this morning we went to a couple new places too.

And it's just exciting.

So that's usually when it's like we, we need to, we need to just get into another resort.

We have 100 points at Riviera Direct and we love it.

But we, we just, we just need to, we just need to pull the trigger and and and do a reset contract.

Jeff, do you want to come in for the rebuttal at all or chime in on that?

I just told him to take a picture.

He just grabbed his TikTok camera and he just wants our picture.

He agreed with me so he no, he already snapped it.

I never know when the pictures happen.

Great camera on TikTok.

Never know when pictures being taken though.

We got some gems of pictures that we'll put up on Patreon from last night.

There are some doozies, let me tell you.

But yeah, Well, thanks, Dan.

That's great.

You can hang out for a little bit.

We got a couple questions.

I'll.

I'll lead.

I'll lead with you with this and then I'll go back around the room.

Let me go back up here.

Jarrett.

I asked a good question and I'm just trying to find him as we go here.

OK, We know the answer for Paul on this.

Yeah, it's a no brainer.

If you could be 1 character for a day, who would it be?

So obviously my answer would be Wally.

I would love to love to be Wally for a day.

Just zoom around, pick up trash everywhere.

Yeah, my my my favorite, my favorite movie is Coco.

My favorite Princess is Tiana, for those of you that know, but my favorite movie is Coco.

So I probably have to be Miguel just to be able to to go on the exploration that he does in in the many different worlds.

So I would definitely say Miguel.

Miguel.

Mm, hmm.

Perfect.

That's an interesting question though, Jared, but I'm curious, are you talking about what character you would be if I were to quote UN quote, work in the parks as a character?

Or are you talking about like what personally is like your favorite character?

2 very different 2 very, very different things.

How would I be Wally?

That's what.

I mean riding inside the robot.

That's what I'm asking.

I don't really understand the answer.

OK, obviously given Wally's size like like I, I don't think I could ride inside him.

I would like to operate the controls.

If you've ever seen the roaming, if you've ever seen the roaming Wally out in the parks or we got to meet him at a run Disney event.

Jeff swap places with Dan.

Hi Jeff.

But you know, there's this guy, he just has this non discreet bag and he stands like off to the side and I won't ruin the magic, but he's helping Wally.

Let's say that say that much.

I would like to be Wally's helper for the day.

Sorcerer Mickey for me being like the actual character, not the one walking around.

Although I would absolutely do Sorcerer Mickey and Fantasmic.

I've got those motions, but he is my favorite character.

Always has been.

Always.

Happy and having the magical hat that you could just pull things out of.

I even the mugs that we did that nobody liked mine, but I drew Sorcerer Mickey on mine.

Everyone loved yours.

It was between yours and Dan was was the popular choices.

You're just claiming the wind.

Derek, I don't know which question you want to answer, but pick one and give us a.

Character and I'll just pick Goofy.

Just because that's the only one that's as tall as you.

Yeah.

I mean, it's many reasons because you have.

To change much.

Nobody looks at Goofy.

Nobody looks at Goofy whether you're in the park, God, you know, if if you're in a park and Goofy walks out, everybody smiles.

And if you're watching a goofy movie, everybody smiles.

I mean, anything having to do with Goofy just brings about joy, and it brings happiness and silliness, which I love.

You know, there's nothing serious about it.

It's just Goofy.

That's it.

So yeah, I'm gonna go goof.

Goof, Jeff.

Derek stole mine.

But really, yeah, I didn't expect goofy for you.

Well, Goofy's the engineer from.

Runaway railway.

So he's engineer Goofy, so it would be me.

Plus then, you know, yeah, people that have seen me know I'm vertically challenged.

So it's like Goofy's a big tall guy.

It would be fun.

So what's also great about Jeff is you walk into any Disney Vacation Club resort and he will re engineer it within 5 seconds of being in here.

Like the cabins of wilderness here.

You want to demo that window there?

Put a wall there.

Move the bunk beds out into this living space like.

I want to flip that 1180.

I want to put a deck out here and then it's two cabins and then it they can sell it as yeah, for two families like.

I will say I get the deck concept here at Fort Wilderness, just given the, you know, you're in the trees, you're in the wilderness.

That vibe of it, it's unfunctional for nine months out of the year or more.

You know, right now it's still very rainy.

It is still very swampy, to use a panda term here.

Well, and this is.

And it's huge these, it's a big area.

You can see what we're looking at, but these benches have been wet since.

Yeah, we arrived.

The trees don't allow allow sunlight into.

You can't but you.

Have to have it like you have to.

You can't have a room like this in the woods without some sort.

Does it have to be as big as it is?

Like, do you need a picnic table?

No, but you need something or else what would you guys do for content?

Because every morning you guys have posted your coffee, Jeff sitting out on it.

Correct, correct.

But did you see, did you see the comment on somebody commented on, and I apologize, I don't remember who it was, but they commented on the photo and said they were here last week and it was so hot they couldn't even use the deck.

I believe that the.

Deck was unusable for them because it is was it was very hot last.

Year it is weird that it's we're in Florida every house has a covered patio or most houses have a covered patio that would have been a fairly inexpensive.

Screen it in.

Screen it in or something like like the ones that at the cabins that.

But yes, again, devil's advocate here.

That would just be another thing that would increase the dues.

I always look at you after a hurricane.

I'm like how much for the screen repairs because you have a you have a screened in Pool area and I'm like each each panels 100 bucks could be.

Out there and just provide some shade with a healing fan or.

Something like one of those like automated ones like an awning?

Yeah, like an.

Automated awning or something?

Automated awning definitely won't increase the dues.

That's.

A good call.

Allison, has anyone considering doing the 2026 DVC Member cruise out of Southampton?

You know Allison, we were really excited when we heard that they were going out of that area.

Amy can speak to this, but she's always wanted to do a fjords cruise.

The problem is that itinerary really is not that great.

So it is, it is it is not a great itinerary.

It is overpriced for what it is.

Granted it is a member crew.

So you're getting those special experiences and if DVC wants to send us on it, we will certainly give you a full rundown of it, but I doubt that's going to happen they.

Won't call you back for our crew.

But yeah, I mean, Derek just mentioned it.

We are planning kind of a DVC fan key holder vacation cruise, hopefully in that late July, August time frame.

We we talked about that earlier in the show.

And then Amy and I are probably going to do a similar cruise out of Southampton.

But I imagine that we will do it with like Norwegian Cruise Lines, Celebrity Cruise Lines, if Royal Caribbean's there.

We got someone in the room right now.

It's begging us to go on a Virgin Voyages cruise, so Aaron's back there.

You can.

Beg me, I will go tomorrow.

She is, she's the queen of Virgin Voyages.

So if you have questions about that, she's she's great about it.

So, but yeah, I mean, the the member cruises are great.

You guys probably saw the content from the 2025 member cruise that just wrapped up.

It looks like they had a wonderful time.

It's definitely something I recommend experiencing as a member if you get a chance to do it and you know, the the time frame aligns, you get a lot of freebies, a lot of great takeaways with it.

They put on some great entertainment.

But you know, for the Southampton one, it's like you got to get there, you know, and at this point, just looking at it, I think they are struggling a little bit with kind of selling that cruise.

So I imagine that we'll probably see a lot of pushes for that.

Jenny, this will spark Amy's ear.

Jenny said.

Is anyone going to do the breakfast buffet at Chef de France?

I know Amy's mentioned it in the past.

So they are bringing back the breakfast buffet at Chef de France for food and wine.

You can guarantee that we will be making a reservation.

There is not a chance that we won't.

We, we never got to experience it here to ride some rides like I think we were, I think we were going to the main patisserie.

We roped up the main patisserie.

We didn't get the memo that they were doing like, you know, they were doing this whole thing at Chefs de France.

So, but you recently went there and did not have a good, well, dinner experience?

To diet, I would die.

To try, Well, I'm having a stroke, it's fine.

You want a joint Canada apparently.

I would die to try breakfast there.

Brunch there sounds really special.

We've we've given it kind of a three strikes.

You're out on dinner, and the last one was so bad that it, yeah, we're not going back there for dinner probably ever unless they change the chef.

But I went to.

Breakfast is intriguing, it's my favorite meal to eat out so I would love.

I think that's why you hate the Remy ride so much.

It's because of your bad meals that you Owen.

Paid you to say that, didn't he?

Owen?

I'm looking at you kids like.

Connor did it.

That was Connor.

Yeah.

Trying to pick a fight.

Listen, everybody agreed me with except for Amy, but she's wrong most of the time.

Keep putting your questions in the comments, we're trying to just kind of scroll through them all here looks like.

It's going to rain.

Yeah, it's going to rain pretty soon and then I'll probably take our live stream down, but we got maybe maybe 10 more minutes or so of this.

Thank you guys for kind of joining along.

There's still 352 of you, wow, deciding to listen to us ramble even after all the technical difficulties to get started.

And that was.

The viewership went up when Dan and Jeff got on I'm just.

100% true.

We got comments, Courtney said.

Dan and Jeff were so nice when we ran into one day, Epcot couldn't figure out how I knew who they were until we walked away doing a scavenger hunt in Japan.

I think I.

I remember that because I think we were all struggling on what what we had to do with it on your.

Scavenger hunt.

The DuckTales.

1.

And we couldn't figure out what was happening.

And it was.

There was something, yeah, we were in the Zen garden.

There was something popping up on the rock, but you couldn't really see it because of how the sun was hitting it.

We did.

We did it with you, Yeah.

And then it all closed down before we finished.

We.

Finished Japan and then we went to head to Norway or China or Mexico.

We went to.

Germany as.

Well, oh, we did Germany as well.

Yeah.

We wanted to do one more, but then they don't tell you that it shuts off.

Yeah, yeah, 8:30 or something.

Yeah, me and that that adventure was hilarious only because me and Amy Templeton were just drinking and not participating and Amy and Jeff were were doing all this, so I was.

Just gonna, I don't even know what you guys were talking about.

There's like a DuckTales game.

I just, I just get to Epcot and I go to a.

Video right there.

We need to get Derrick in.

The park let's let's do a slow clap for Derek real quick.

He's been in the parks like 3 times this month so like.

Thank you.

As I told everyone, they think oh you never go to the parks, I go to the parks.

This In one month I went to Epcot.

In five weeks I went to Epcot, Animal Kingdom, and we did Hollywood Studios and Disney Springs twice.

So thank you very much.

Listen, I keep telling you that he's running for governor.

He he doesn't tell people when he's going to the parks because he just wants to like, put on a disguise, walking around.

Nobody knows who he is.

No paparazzi.

Let's go around.

But I'm going to go to the parks next time.

Wearing your shirt with my face on it.

That's not creepy.

Yeah, Missy asked us, you know, for those who were not with us all last night, what would our stops on the monorail crawl.

So Missy's we actually kicked off the night at Grand Floridian and we were up at Enchanted Rose.

So First off, again, shout out to the amazing cast members at Grand.

Floridas, yeah.

Especially Caitlin.

Caitlin.

Yeah, Caitlin.

Their server.

She was so great.

So First off, don't take a large group to Enchanted Rose.

They do have a six person Max capacity of a group.

We did not know this.

And so we were kind of towering over that outside area.

But if you know the area, there's 2 tables and kind of some general seating outside of Enchanted Rows that overlook the main part of Grand Floridian.

So we did talk to the Hostess there who talked to her manager.

He came out, chatted with me a little bit.

They were like, if you guys can push into this area just so we can keep this walking path moving.

And I was like, that would be amazing.

All these people, I can tell you this DVC fan community likes some alcohol, I'm pretty sure.

So we're going to have a good night.

And so, and then it was Caitlin, I think that she came out, she took amazing care of us, got everyone their drink.

Even at one point.

I was so shocked, like I was just shocked by this just from knowing how many people we had because I'm saying we we went over to the Outer Rim bar and kind of hung out there for another hour.

And then that was that was nice just from the space was perfect for our event.

You know, it's first come, first serve and.

That's a forgotten place too.

Like just because everyone talks about California Grill, everyone talks about Steakhouse 71, but that place is great.

It's got.

It gets a lot of.

Pay, yes, but it's got great seating.

It's got great views you can overlook like Bay Lake.

So yeah, it was a it was a great bar.

Huge honorable mention in Amy's ranking of sandwiches to the sandwich at Contempo Camp Cafe.

Turkey sandwich.

You guys had one, We had one.

Dustin and Aaron had one.

That was an amazing sandwich.

My personal favorite part of that night was Jeff, your friends Rob and Tracy are in town hanging out for for the the Summerfest weekend.

And Amy sold him on the second-half of her sandwich in line for the monorail.

But then Amy disappears.

So I'm chatting with Rob and Tracy and I think I was having a conversation with Tracy and Rob was I remember Rob being there and having this box and then I just turned to him and he he was just something like that was that was a good sandwich.

Video you should see her plate.

It is like anything I've ever seen before at a buffet.

It's fantastic.

Give me coffee, Sid.

Which do you prefer, Jollywood nights or Mickey's Very merry.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Yeah, I'm like a squirrel.

I got sidetracked thinking about Wally over there.

I'm going to play with him a little bit more.

We finished off the night actually at the Wailulu Bar and Grill.

Actually, we just kind of hung out in the lobby of the Island Tower and that was a perfect place for us.

It was quiet.

People think about going over there and there's a plenty of seating.

There's that giant table right in that middle area in the lobby.

I will say best place on the monorail loop to watch fireworks in my opinion at this point is standing outside the island.

Was great, the sound was great, the viewing is like literally perfect.

Is it spot on directly?

No, but you still see the castle.

Castle there.

Didn't know there were fireworks.

Going yeah, he didn't know Disney, he didn't had fireworks, he didn't know.

Fireworks all right?

Not at all.

We're in, we're into almost two hours of the show.

It's we're we're we started off the rails.

I don't even know where we're at at this point, but yeah.

And then a contingent of us thought we were going to walk to Starlight and we explained that a little bit earlier.

And unfortunately, that did not happen because The Walking path closed for the Electric Water Pageant to come back through.

So there you go.

That was a funny story because I was thinking as you guys were talking about, oh, that's my favorite.

I was talking to so many members too during the night and when I was at the grand and started at the grand, we're talking about our favorites.

I was like, you know what?

I think this is my favorite.

And then I get to the Polly and I'm like, I think this is my favorite.

Like I mean, I was fine at the contempt I.

Was.

Just going to say no offense.

Elise is keeping track for you too.

We're at 3 on the literally count so.

I love our audience.

When you want to I, and I've mentioned this before on shows, you want to talk about someone that reads every comment on every post ever.

Derek, I don't know how this man does it.

Like I know I do a lot, but that man like just all hours of the night too.

You're just sending sending random text to me.

Like literally Paul, it's a no brainer.

He will, he will.

All the greatest.

Hits he will know breaking Disney news before we even have an idea about it and I love it I love that you yeah I love that I love that you have such a great pulse on.

I like to be clued in to the community and everything going on, which again, I, I, I love watching all the shows out there, like all the different vloggers and stuff, which is always funny because I'll mention a name or I'm, yeah, talking to Jeff and we're talking about vloggers.

And some of these guys are like, who's that?

Like who, who?

I don't even know who that is.

So yeah, it's always, I like to be clued in because sometimes, you know, I don't live in the parks like Jeff does, so.

We're at 4 now, Lisa said.

So just just keeping the counter going.

Do you want to go back to give me coffees of which you prefer, Jollywood or Mickey's very Merry Christmas party?

Amy's yelling from under the table.

Jollywood.

I will say this entire crew is headed to Jollywood nights later this year.

We're headed to one of the November dates, I believe 22nd of November, Saturday the 22nd.

So be on the lookout for us, as most people have said last night, and I will say again, just look for Derek.

He's much taller than you actually anticipate.

So just look for Derek and you won't miss him.

But we're headed to that.

And then some of us are also, I think some of us are headed to you guys are headed to the Christmas party with your parents.

End of December.

I think it's a DVC night too.

Yeah, Amy and I think you're going to opening night of the Christmas party.

So we're headed there with our social media manager, Gray for the world of DVC to get some content for that.

You're headed to Jollywood?

You doing a Christmas party this year or right now?

No, but that's depended on if there's some family coming into town, which may be a case, we may pivot and and grab a ticket.

So I I've done it three years in a row and I was going to take a break this year, but I love to go with people that have never been so if they come.

And we'll go.

Only half of us I feel like have done Jollywood though.

I've not done Jollywood.

This will be my first year at.

Jollywood and I think the half of us that have done Jollywood, would you say that's your favorite?

Mickey's not so scary.

He's my favorite.

Wasn't the?

Question and nobody in the room wants to go with me this year.

I'll go with you to go see that cow, that creepy cow, Clarabelle, I'll totally go for you, that cow.

Don't.

Even don't love that cow only part of.

That that Jeff hates is the cow.

The cow.

Doesn't fit.

I don't get it.

Comes down the street I will make.

You a deal.

Here we go.

I will come to Not so Scary with you if you come to Haunted Horror Nights at University with me.

That's what.

I thought I want that blog so bad.

No, nobody wants that, wants to see that.

So yeah, for you guys, not yet.

You can't really make the assessment.

Yet, no.

But I am excited about Jollywood.

I'm excited.

My first time for that.

So well, I'm it is my very first time at Jollywood and my least favorite park, which is the Hollywood Studios.

So I'm hoping that it's going to help bump its value for me.

So because I just don't like that park.

I mean, it's fine, but that's all.

Now.

About what if we did this?

What if we did that?

What if we did this?

He is constantly planning these.

So thank you.

Yeah, thank you.

You are awesome.

Appreciate that you keep all of us together.

He throws all this like you guys will see.

I think Dan, you took some behind the scenes like like this is a mess.

Yeah.

And how many times, how many times did we walk through this today of like we did we?

Didn't know which angle we wanted to take.

When were these sports?

Yeah, how many cameras do I need?

So yeah, Jeff, Jeff's the greatest, like best friend that you can have behind the scenes.

Just like he's always thinking about those angles if they he's always just walking under the table and crawling.

Yeah, we were.

We were 5 minutes before starting.

I'm still just tweaking everything.

He goes.

Are you gonna wear that shirt?

Are you gonna do your hair?

It was AT shirt.

It wasn't.

Yeah.

I was still in T-shirt mode.

I was gonna slap a hat on and just go with it.

I'm.

Glad I'm not the only one who does that too.

Yeah, yeah.

Is your wife bringing another shirt for you or do we have to go buy you?

No, I'm good.

I got it tucked in.

Yeah, but no, yeah, thank you.

Appreciate that.

Thank you, Paul.

Love you guys being a get being a part of this so.

And back to Amy.

Back, back to my lovely wife.

Yeah, I think it's starting to rain.

Is it raining?

Yes, it's pouring down rain.

Look at that.

It is.

A squirrel.

By the way, nobody asked me what character I wanted to be.

What character we're doing, I'm going to be.

Anna after she became queen.

Because I'm a queen.

Oh, my eye is burning.

I don't know why.

How long?

Were you prepping that joke?

That's why she's not dying on a boat well.

That's all.

Right.

You know, Jeff kind of wrapped it up pretty well I think for us here.

And what I want to really tell you all is that these people in this room put up with a lot of the antics that I want to do for this.

No one in this room ever says no.

When when we kind of come up with an idea, they always want to be a part of it.

And it really just speaks volumes to the community that we have here behind the scenes that puts this show together, that puts DVC fan together, does everything.

There's there's aspects of it that so many of you just like never see.

You guys get to see us kind of the Polish version for the most part, you see.

Yeah, I don't know if this show you would call the Polish version Derek, but you know, we, we, we do try to, you know, put out a very professional product.

We are, we are learning as we go, you know, to the fact that, you know, the the audio quality of these shows hopefully has come a long way.

Don't listen to the 1st 10 minutes of this show, but I hopefully that's come a long way.

You know, the video quality of this US learning, you know, Jeff and I are teaching each other how to make vlogs most days and, and kind of, you know, trying to trying to make better videos that you all decide to watch of us and.

Can I jump in really quick while you're coming up?

First of all, I want to echo what Jeff said.

I'd also took some behind the scenes video.

We're doing a whole behind the scenes video vlog this weekend.

And Paul and Amy both are do so much for not only this show, but for our group, for the company.

Like they're absolute rock stars, but they've also given us some really cool opportunities.

And I'm just so thankful to be a part of this team and a part of this group.

Last week I did a little post in our DVC fan show, but it's my two year anniversary with the group.

I'm gonna try not to get him up, but it's been so fun to be a part of this.

And if you go back and look at my first video compared to what we're doing now, I've learned so much about doing this that it's just been a blast.

So thank you guys for everything.

And I'm glad to call you friends.

And I like Derek too.

We love having you here.

Yeah, I.

I I can't not talk.

I mean, come on, give me a break.

Yeah, I.

Can mute you and you.

Can't no stop it.

Yeah.

Are you sure the mute Button's gonna work?

We're not sure.

No pain is.

Just gonna start talking again if I press it.

But no, I I have to back up what everyone else said too, which is just so, so very sure.

I remember being, you know, part of DVC reset market for a long, long time, you know, before Paul and Amy came on.

And I used to always think, and I used to talk with, you know, my friend Marissa and here would be like, I could could you imagine how great our company would be if we had people that truly lived?

Disney breathed it in DVC.

But we're constantly able and available and willing to do and such great content that, you know, like on the spur of the moment, like here's breaking news and this this happened, this happened.

And we're like, God, were you ever going to find someone that can possibly do that?

They're right here.

And these folks do it with such love and such compassion and such kindness that it's, I'm so glad that Jeff brought that up because it's so true that with you guys and the audience that we've had, what they've taken from what was here to things to where it is now.

I it's just absolutely amazing where you guys have taken this and I'm just so blessed and so proud to be around and be part of this ride with people that, you know, again, started off as you know, quote UN quote clients, but now there's so many folks here in this room and so many folks out there that you guys are like, dear, dear friends.

So yeah.

So thank you, Paul, and thank you, Amy, and thank you everybody from behind the scenes for just letting us be here.

We appreciate it.

To you.

You're, You're the one that grounds me every day and tells me that I need to chill out or, you know, calm down and it's going to be okay.

This, this whole thing doesn't work without us, you know, in terms of, you know, us being together, you know, we're a package deal.

So we we brainstorm these things as we're laying in bed at 10:00 with the dogs in the bedroom with us.

And we're always coming up with new ways to kind of just better this community.

It's funny that, you know, a lot of these people in this room always say like, oh, what's pollinate?

But they're working.

Yeah.

They're.

Amy was writing loans this morning.

I was I'm coming from this table.

She's covering for Monera writing loans this weekend.

We've talked to we've met new friends recently and they're like, I, I just love that you get to do DVC fan for your day job.

And everyday I'm like, that's not my day job.

That's that's my after after day job.

You know, rental store is our day job.

Monera is our day job.

You know, Jeff, Jeff has Jeff has a job and, and he continues to do that and and do this and Derek is always working.

You know, if if you want to talk about someone always working at all hours of the day, he just sold a laying down.

He just sold a contract.

Yes, look at that.

He is.

He is.

That was a Vero Beach contract to Jeff and Dan.

I've I've started to learn to Derek.

There's there's points when we do this virtually and Derek is not a light typer and I don't know if I've joked about.

This please wonder that.

Not only is she not a light, light typer, this is a laptop in front of us right now, in front of this computer screen.

Right now Derek has a laptop and and the keyboard on the laptop is missing about 7 keys and does not work.

And so he then has a this is not a gaming, this is not a gaming computer, but gaming keyboard.

But this is just my keyboard that I'm running the show with.

He has that sitting on top of the laptop and so the whole thing is moving and he's clacking.

A keyboard.

It's like.

An earthquake if.

You haven't seen your big.

Freaking.

Gorilla Hand.

But I mean, to to the point that Derek made earlier, everyone is just so passionate about this.

And it's it's for two reasons.

You know, we love what we do.

We love this product, we love this brand and we love you, our community.

And we want to make sure that we share the best information with you and we bring you the best content possible because you watching this you guys engaging in the articles heading to DVC fan.

I don't even I've not even brought this up on a show.

We updated our website if you've not been to DVC fan dot.

Com you haven't said that.

Yet, yeah, quick, quick shout out to Eric who redid our our website for us.

I think it's a lot cleaner look, a lot easier.

Function search functionality just looks a whole, whole lot better, especially on mobile devices.

So that's been great.

There's so many people behind the scenes that just make this all possible, our entire key holder vacations team.

So we cannot do it without all of them.

I could not do it without all of you.

You guys make it an amazing opportunity to be a part of DVC fan and all of this and and last but not least, all of you, our viewers, our listeners, those of you out there on the Internet that choose to tune into our funny antics and learn a little thing or two along the way.

So that is going to do it for our DVC fans.

Summerfest live stream.

Jeff, thank you so much for being here.

Sure, Derek, my lovely wife.

Thank you.

We've got Dan and Jeff are here.

Aaron and Dustin are in the background.

You guys didn't get to see them.

They're they're in town.

They wanted to be a part of Summerfest so bad that they're watching our dogs this weekend.

So they're staying at our house and watching our dogs and kind of hanging out as well.

And planning our Virgin cruise, it sounds.

Like, yeah, yeah, exactly.

So thank you all for listening to us for the past two hours.

We look forward to seeing so many of you tonight at our Hoop Dee Doo event.

Be on the lookout for some of those other future events like Oktoberfest, like a potential cruise in the near future, more opportunities to just interact with this community because it it seems like all of you want more of those.

And so we'll do our best to plan them and, and meet up with you along the way.

But that is going to do it for this week's special episode of this DVC Fan Summerfest live stream, and we hope you have a good rest of your weekend and we will see you all next Monday.