In part 2 with Matt Milligan, co-founder of Uhubs, the discussion delves into the differences between software sales and consulting sales, and the need for a consultative approach in both fields. Matt talks about AI in sales processes and the profile of high-performing salespeople. He explains that AI tools can automate significant portions of sales workflows, leading to increased efficiency and performance. The conversation also touches on the evolving role of Chief Revenue Officers (CROs), who need to be data-literate and have strong revenue operations (RevOps) support. Milligan introduces the RISE framework (Revenue Skills, Impactful Behaviours, Strategic Process Execution, Expert Knowledge) as a structured approach to assessing and improving sales capabilities, ultimately driving revenue growth.