I am nominated for MILF Performer of the Year.

How do you feel about MILF Performer of the Year.

I may have a midlife crisis in front of everyone on stage if I actually win that one.

And why is that?

Well, because I don't look thirty five and I don't have kids, and so a lot of people see me and they don't equate milk to me.

Charlie Ford is standing in the kitchen of a drab townhouse in a suburban estate on the outskirts of the dry Las Vegas Desert and talking about the demands of motherhood or milfhood.

The Aussie performer is crashing here on a friend's couch in the lead up to the Adult Video News Pawn Awards.

She rubs her eyes, exhausted after a night of partying with her porn star pals, and runs a hand through her blonde hair.

There's oil stained pizza boxes stacked up on the counter, a quick and easy midweek meal for a busy working meal.

I think the termo milf is morphine over time, and I think with porn these days, it's not that specific look anymore, like it's a lot of different body types and people that are cast as a milf because you can be a stepmom and have a kid, you know, inverted commace kid who is like a similar age to you these days.

When were you first cast as a milf?

I don't remember.

I honestly don't remember.

Probably very early on in my career two years ago.

And what's usually involved in like the in the milf movies?

What's the general plot?

It varies, No, it can still be a very varied category.

But you have to have a step mom and you have to have a step son.

Basically, there's like the basics of it.

Yeah, picture this.

It's nineteen ninety nine.

You're inside a packed cinema and one unforgettable line about Stiffler's mom is about to shift the culture and accidentally birth an empire.

That's Stiffler's mom.

Yep, shit.

Can I believe a fine woman like this produced a guy like stiff n do it took some milf?

The hell's that m ilf mom?

I'd like to fuck?

Yeah?

Oh yeah.

American Pie didn't just give us cringe comedy.

It gifted the world a cheeky four letter acronym that would go on to dominate search engines, bankroll thousands of content creators and become a global fantasy.

The milfkraze went from teenage dream to business model faster than you could say warm apple pie.

The sexy mother category consistently ranks in the top searches across adult platforms.

On Pornhub, one of the largest X rated websites in the world, the milf genre was the most viewed category for twenty twenty four, up four places from the previous year.

It seems people are crying out for mummies.

With this demand, many young female performers are being ushered into milfhood by the time they're thirty.

It's seen as the inevitable next step in a porn Korea, whether it's through the studio system or subscription platforms like Only Fans, Apparently, you can't stay and ingenoux forever, you need to grow up.

For someone like Bonnie Blue, who at twenty five has become notorious for sleeping with barely legal boys, she seems born to play the role.

Is that even in her plan, it doesn't really matter.

As Charlie Ford says, becoming a milf can happen by accident.

This is what to expect when you're not quite expecting a concertis.

My name is Molly Manning.

I am forty nine years old, and I am the real mom to a sixteen year old boy, and I am a pornster.

And what genre do you specialize in?

I guess what I am is like a mom, you know, milf, mum, cougar.

The genre that I do is that mummy fantasy milf.

Will Transforming from fresh faced starlet to milf is a supercharged pathway for a lot of performers in their twenties and thirties.

They're now also competing with genuine MILFs, middle aged women with actual kids, bills to pay, and a lust to thrust.

This is all thanks in part to the surging popularity of the genre and the rise of amateur online platforms for real life mums like Molly Manning are milking it.

It's brought in a whole bunch of people into the space that I think, I think the public likes, you know, to see, you know, a traditional, normal looking sort of mum that can be super naughty.

This ozzie mum swoops her mess of brassy curls out of her smooth round face.

As she talks.

She pushes up the sleeves of her camel colored cashmere top, revealing a tattoo on her right arm.

The Curse of font spells out one word, her son's name.

Her shiny red acrylic fingernails tap on the timber table in the courtyard of this coffee shop as she SIPs her latte.

Well, I'll be honest, I've always been pretty van.

I actually had a facelift in August.

I went to Turkey, so I had a nat clift and a face left.

So I'm still recovering from that.

I'm still swollen.

It was really cheap.

It would have cost me at least thirty thousand dollars here.

I paid like five eight hundred you as in Istanbul, And I'm actually going to go back and have a BBL.

I've had my boobs done and stuff.

Yeah, if I keep myself in good cheap, I don't see why I couldn't be doing this for another fifteen years, to be honest, this.

Is Molly's second year at the Pawn Expo.

She's taking a well earned break from the commitments of motherhood and milhood to chat with me.

She's still technically a newcomer to the beerz.

It was a midlife career pivot.

She moved to la from Australia in two thousand and eight with her son and was working as a pilates instructor, but she had a dream.

I wanted to be an actress, not a pornographic actress, a normal actress.

I think in the back of my mind I would always have been happy to be in a drama with some good dialogue and some hardcore sex.

I would have been okay with that, and obviously porno's it's all centered around the sex.

It was towards the end of twenty twenty one when things took a turn.

A lot of people had said to me, oh, you know this only fans, you should try only fans.

But I didn't really know what it was about, and it wasn't easy to find information out about it.

You know, I think like the first month, I don't know what I'm doing, you.

Said, people in your life started telling you that you should do only fans.

What prompted them to tell you that much?

Well, I was working as a plarti's instructor, but then it was during the pandemic when I wasn't really doing anything.

I've always been really confident and comfortable with myself like when I was a kid, I was alway running around naked.

My mum was always like, put some clothes on.

But there was nothing sexual about that, you know what I mean.

It was just just like being naked when I got on only fans.

I was single, so I did have a boyfriend and we did it for a few years, and it just had a really disastrous ending because I discovered he was on Craiglist doing homosexual stuff with like older man and it was it was really weird.

It was so strange.

So but actually when I say that, like we probably were very well suited together, but he didn't want there was no room for him for me to do that, Like it was for him to be doing all that sort of stuff in secret.

And so that's why it didn't work.

With no boyfriend and no contacts in the amateur porn industry, how did she recruit guys to film with In the.

Beginning, There's a couple of people in some of my sober meetings that I just shot content with because there's always a bunch of guys.

So you met some guys in your sober meetings like AA, and then how did the conversation start?

Well, I'm pretty I'm pretty blunt and straight out with it, which is I appreciate.

I think I just asked, you know, like would you be interested in shooting some content with me?

And like yes, most of them were yes.

How sex positive is your household?

I think we're pretty positive.

I said to my son, I'll buy you a pocket pussy or something for your birthday.

Like I have sat down with him distinctly and made sure that he understands that pornography is not real and that, you know, it's a performance, and so I've sort of tried to get him to know that that's probably not what women really want, you know, because he's a vergent and you know, I think a lot of young men watch a lot of porn, and I think they maybe get a bit distorted about what's real and what's not.

So I just really wanted him to know that that was not, you know, what usually normally goes on.

I don't think with people.

Do kids at his school or do his friends know?

I don't think so.

I don't think so has he ever mentioned it to you?

He has not mentioned it.

And then when I tried to talk to him about it, he just changed the subject.

What are the conversations that you've had with him about your career.

Well, I know his father has said many derogatory things about me, you know, having only fans account and this and that.

So aside from those things, he hasn't really said very much.

I mean, he knows I have I have an only fans Obviously, he does not know me as Molly Manny.

He knows me something else his mum.

I did mention him that I had been shooting mainstream pornography and he just changed the subject.

So I can only assume he probably doesn't really want to have a conversation with his mom about it.

And I think that if he does want to have a conversation about it, then he's welcome to.

But I don't think it would be fair of me to keep pushing something that I can see he doesn't particularly feel comfortable to talk about.

I just sort of made him aware that, you know, sex work doesn't make you a bad person, you know my opinions, Not paying child to poor, you know, lying, stealing, murdering, thieving, those kinds of things make you a bad person.

Usually on a weekday morning like this, Molly would be up at six am and making her son veggiemite toast in the kitchen of their North Hollywood home before driving him to school, and then she'd be off to work filming content that ranges from shaving her legs in the shower to gang bangs.

While there have been some months where she has managed to rake in between five thousand dollars and fifteen thousand dollars on only fans, things have not been as lucrative with her professional studio scenes.

So the studios I don't think pay you very well.

I was told that they haven't had to pay rise for quite a long time.

It will depend You could be paid thirteen hundred dollars for a scene.

You could be paid fifteen hundred dollars.

It depends, so different studios will pay you a different amount.

And it probably depends on as well, Like if you have a name, for example, I'm assuming, like Angela, white people that have been around a long time and are really well known, I'm assuming they get paid a lot more.

But it depends.

Yeah, you get paid so that the least amount of pay you get is street boy girl, and then you get more as the scale goes up.

You know, there's girl boy boy boy girl girl, double penetration, double vage and all those sorts of things.

Anal and how far up the scale have you gone?

Oh so I've shot two anals professional scenes I think.

And how much did they pay?

I think like two grand two and a half thousand dollars.

It's not that much because you just basically sign away all your rights to it.

But my understanding thinking about it, like in the bigger picture, is they do a ton of marketing and they do very good jobshing you out there.

So so my idea with that is the idea to try to find new fans.

And it's that quest for eyeballs that makes it an around the clock job.

Here at the Expo, amateur creators line the hallways, standing at booths and doing anything they can to get their names out there, even if it means selling car bumper stickers emblazoned with their website address.

Across the week, Molly is scheduled to clock into a booth and hawk her wares.

My job, predominantly as an OnlyFans creator, is about, in my opinion, a five percent marketing and sales fifteen percent making the content.

So primarily that's the job.

It's a lot of work really because I started off coming from no base, as they said, I'm not a social media person really, but you know, having to grow social media, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, all of those things.

I think I have around maybe five hundred thousand followers.

Who is your average fan?

I would say my fan is predominantly a male with a penis.

As Molly starts to shoot more scenes for professional porn studios, she's now competing with younger performers who are also getting cast as mills.

I believe in porn.

I think if you're over the age of twenty three, it could be a malf and so, yeah, they're not casting real mils.

There's a lot of women casting porno don't have any children at all.

But I do think that nowadays, with like a lot of this performers and things becoming quite big stars, I think I think that the market also drives things, because I've heard one director that they know that I've shot a lot with.

He's like, I don't know if the market's driving this or we're pushing it upon people, you know, with all the fox sast because it's so popular and it's so bizarre, you know, I mean, you're in a scene and you know, I'm there with my daughter and my granddaughter and my grandson, and then we're suddenly having an orgy, you know, Like I mean like I get a personal kick out of it because it's so wrong and I know it would never happen.

So it's funny for me, right, That's where I get my little jollies.

But you know, it's just they're so absurd.

I think sometimes what happens is the fantasy just takes over because you know, as much as I have a teenage son, and I'm one hundred percent sure that every teenage boy is horny all the time, there's there's a definite line when you're someone's mum, right, So there's a lot of people that fantasize about that stuff.

But for me personally, obviously, that's just a line that I would never cross.

What do you mean by that?

Oh, I just mean that there's you know, I get a ton of messages asking, oh, you know, I know know that you walk around in front of in front of your son naked, you know he must have a bone, surely has a boner or you know, just things like that, which like there when you're a parent, like there's just nothing sexual about that, But I get when people are fantasizing about it.

It's like a fine line where they may be.

There's a lot of fantasies.

I think that shouldn't be brought to reality.

What are some of the requests that you get from your fans.

So it's just there's a lot of the mummy fantasy, a lot of like the wanting to call you mummy, which you know, I in my mind, I get it because I feel like, you know, your mother is nurturing and you know, loving and kind, and I guess we all suck on a breast right when we're little, if we're lucky.

I understand that kind of you know, like as a man, your first point of reference for a female is your mother.

So you know, if you have a good relationship with your mother, it is a pretty good indicator that you should have good relationships with women.

And in my experience, which is like with my son's father, he has a terrible relationship with his mother.

He hates his mother, and I can see that.

And even you know, my son turned around and said to me, I don't think my dad likes women, So you know that's I don't know where the mummy fantasy stems from I mean, I've had some men tell me that they have.

One guy told me he fucked his mother like a few times, and I just I just asked, was that as a child or is an adult?

And he said it was an adult, and I, you know, I find that quite strange.

To be honest, I find it very strange.

I guess people don't know where the line goes with fantasy in reality.

When it comes to porn.

That line Molly talks about is different for everyone living out a fantasy, exploring kinks and taboos and occasionally outraging society.

Bondage, furries, voyeurism.

The list of niche and erotic categories is endless, But even some people who work in porn are raising an eyebrow.

When I've asked men that are into it, their only answer is like the taboo of it, and I feel like there must be something else.

But obviously I find it very unappealing.

My name is Inca Winter.

I'm the director at four Play Films, which is an ethical feminist company making porn for women by women.

You seem really uncomfortable when the talk of the genre comes up.

Can you tell me what emotions it makes you feel, Yeah, it's.

Like cringey to me.

I think it's cringing on many levels because I feel like, hey, I feel like it's cringey as the audience.

Then I feel like I know so many talent that's doing it that it's sort of like it's kind of everybody's like tired of it.

I think this is probably the bit that like, it's the cringiest bit.

If you think about the statistics of how females, especially young females and girls, are being sexually harassed and hurt, it is in a family context, So on a weird level, this is portraying something that's a real life issue.

And yeah, I think that's also kind of cringing to me.

When you were on the hunt for some port to watch, what did you say that was on off that wasn't quite connecting with you?

Yeah, I think it's just sort of I think when when people think of porn, there's like this image that that's in their head and it's just something that's like overly lit.

There's no sort of like atmosphere.

There's not a lot of communication between between talent, and if there's communication, it's about things like pizza.

In cheesy dialogue, Yeah.

Jesy dialogue or you know, now the whole step things step thing, oh, stepfather, step sister, step anyway.

But so then I think also a lot of the times in those kinds of scenes, female talent like overperforms, so it just feels well, I mean, it doesn't just feel.

Fake, it is fake.

So I as as a female watcher, I'm portrayed like looking at the female talent and what she's experiencing, and if that looks not pleasurable to me and sometimes even maybe potentially painful to me, then my body just sort of like you know, cringes and sort of titans, and I'm like ah, and so then I cannot enjoy what I'm seeing.

I also don't want to like sound like I have this like being very judgmental.

And then also I'm like, yeah, I'm but I'm also I mean, so I'm also a sex educator and counselor, and I've like you know, been in therapy myself for like, as I grew up in a you know, sex cult where I grew up like sex was like very without emotion.

It was kind of mandated, like relationships were prohibited, and it was a very sort of like male centric, stereotypical idea of how sex should be had.

And so I while that's not why I started to make porn, the more I think about it, it's obviously kind of what I make is the exact opposite of what I witnessed as a child.

I think about society because what I do I see as like activism, right, So I just think about these concepts a lot, and I feel like, if I say that I make feminist ethical porn, like I have to think about what that means to me and why am I doing this and why is it needed?

And I think like a big part of why I think it's needed is to kind of crush the stereotypical gender roles and sort of like what the female prescribed role in sex is.

Inca constant to wrap her head around the popularity of MILFs and the family fantasy, but she also doesn't want to yuck another person's yum.

The question is does it hurt anybody?

You know?

And I feel like it doesn't.

I don't like I you know, there's there's there's a lot of porn that's going to make me cringe for all different reasons.

Right down at a booth on the floor of the expo.

Molly the Milk is getting scolded by security for revealing too much flesh.

I was just told off because apparently my nipples were seeing.

Showing through you wearing a kind of shea leotad.

I believe the dress code is a little stricter this year.

I'm smelling a lot of wheat in the.

Air, so it's actually illegal to have weed in a casino because I was asked to leave at casino once for smoking part.

I can see here at the stool there is a skateboard with a very sexy photo of you and blazoned across it.

Are you spooking skateboards now?

Yes?

So I did a merchandise collaboration.

I have T shirts, we have air freshness, I have a skateboard.

I have a poster.

Any assigning them?

Ah?

Yes, how many units have you moved today?

I haven't moved any units today.

I'm pretty shy.

Actually, I am not the sort of person that wants to walk into a room and everybody look at me.

I'm the kind of person that wants to walk into the room and slink around and just kind of observe.

How much of your your porn persona is just that a persona.

I would say that, you know, in my my real true persona, I have a couple of personalities, you know what I mean.

I genuinely really like sex.

So it's yeah, it's it's just you have a different role for whatever you're doing at that time of the day.

I think you know you like, I'm in mum mode or I'm in whatever other my work mode.

Or speaking of work mode, Molly's calendar is full up this week.

Right now, She's trying to spook promotional mouse pads with her face on them.

Tonight, after clocking in hours at the booth, she's planning on filming a gang bang and tomorrow morning she'll be up bright and early to film with another creator in her motel room.

That's just life as a single working milf, and the grind never stops.

Molly thinks she can keep this gig going for another fifteen years, but it could go even further.

Across the room from Molly, her potential future is staring back at her.

My name is Sika Black.

I'm seventy years old and I'm a milf.

I have five daughters and then eleven grandchildren and five great grandchildren, and I love to do.

Porn with her short blonde bob and demure makeup.

Seeka looks like the mom from the Brady Bunch who's planning a special night alone with mister Brady.

Well, Alice baby sits the children.

I'm into inter racial yep, guy guy, and then of course I will do girl girl guy, and then we also do gang Banks and then I also have cuckhole.

Speaking of that, is that your husband who's sitting behind you, Yes, it is.

What's his name, James?

And what are his thoughts on your career pivot at this stage in your life?

Oh, he loves it.

He actually got me into this direction of.

Let's see here.

He taught me swinging.

He actually videoed me and put me on the corner websites, and that's when my career took off.

I was doing video of her anyway, and everybody said.

You know, these are great, you should publish this stuff and make some money.

We decided that's what we were going to do.

Does the idea of creating porn with your wife does it still turn you on?

Or is it?

Oh?

Yeah, absolutely.

I get to edit all the video by myself in a quiet room.

Need I say more my natural voyua.

So if I'm watching sex that turns me on, and watching sex her having sex is even better.

When we started, it was like you saw how excited I got with black men, and he loved watching.

So that's how he started videoing.

So it's a real family business.

Oh yes, has anyone else in your family ever wanted to follow in your footsteps?

I have already got a daughter that is, she's my gay girl.

I am more with guys and mixing with inter racial with black men where she likes to stay with females.

Does she ever ask you for tips?

Oh, I'm asking her for tips?

What kind of tips are you asking?

Houly promote herself on these websites for one thing, or the Instagram TikTok all the other ones.

I'm not versed in all those areas, so she helps me out there.

Sika and her husband James have traveled to Las Vegas from their home in Florida to meet her young male fans like this fellow probably started masturbating for an I was about twelve years old, sneaking into my uncle's ben of porn, big natural tits, cool blonde hair.

And Sika has also come to town hoping to nab a win.

She's nominated at the Awards later this week in the category the Niche Performer of the Year.

I ask her to describe what her niche is as a mill.

Oh, usually it's It starts out the step son is where he's actually found my porn from a college friend.

And as she shows him on his phone and says, hey, this is your grandma or your mom, your stepmom?

Did you know about this?

And then of course he'll come back home and blackmail me because his dad doesn't know about it, so then he'll be peeking through the door watching me get undressed.

That's another scene where I'm getting ready to shower.

Things like that.

Those are really exciting.

They're fun.

And does it I mean, does that fantasy turn you on or does it all work for you?

Oh?

It turns me on.

Hi, Hey, Molly, good morning.

Molly Manning.

The Aussie mill is fussing around her ground floor motel room that's across the road from the casino where the pawn expo is taking place.

I'm fucking pissed off.

She's and irritated.

So it's eight o'clock.

I am meant to have a collab with a gentleman at nine a m.

And he's canceled.

So yeah, I I am annoyed, mostly because I, you know, people should respect other people's time, you know.

She tugs at the waistband of her skin tight green leather pants and stumps into the bathroom.

I'm just going to get my put my makeup on because I just want to get ready.

So I'm like, you know, Harry, make at.

Ready to go.

She grabs a powder brush and tries to furiously dust away any signs of her late night, she was working a double shift.

After leaving the booth at the expo, she went to a guy's place to film content.

I initially had thought I wanted to shoot a gang bank because I don't have any of that kind of content for my private site.

It was supposed to be an orgy, but those plans didn't eventuate either.

She's kind of glad.

I was in my mind kind of dreading it.

Oh, I'm, you know, going to do a five guy gang bang.

Was Yeah, it was a little too much, and I realized, you're just you know, feeling feeling the effects of the expo.

I decided that it was probably not a good idea because I need to walk today and you know, walk around all day and just yeah, I don't want to be impaled.

Instead, she shot something a little more conservative with one guy, but not in a bedroom.

We improvised and we shot it on the pool table.

I think he had a twelve inch penis.

I mean, I'd never measuring stick, but yeah, it was a big It was really pretty cop.

She got a few hours sleep, woke up before six am, and I ate a sausage McMuffin, only to have today's plans scrapped.

It's just annoying when people cancel, you know, with just I don't know.

It's my pet peeve when people cancel without any kind of consideration that you've allocated time for something.

And how often does this happen?

It happens pretty regularly.

On a mission to add a gang bang video to her only Fans portfolio, she tried recruiting her friend, a fellow MILF named Piper Press, who's also in Vegas this week.

She declined.

Hyper she was a bit like, oh, she's like everyone is just there's such sluts at AVN and she's like, I don want to catch a disease.

A lot of people look like a free for all, so you know, if you're shooting with ten different people in a week, might be a chance you'll come home with something.

And like, yeah, I'd caught chlymodia three times in my first year of porn.

Oh you didn't.

You didn't say that.

Caught colymodia three times.

I'm nearly fifty and I'd have had colymydia once in my entire adult life and I got it.

So I've had it four times now that I had it three times in twelve months.

And it was from yeah, host to them, because I wasn't really having any other sacks.

It could have been from collabse up here, but it was people in the industry.

Molly takes a step back and assesses herself in the mirror, contorting her body into poses and tugging at the fabric of her shirt.

I want to go to get a BBL.

Yes, so I feel like I've gained a bunch of wheat around my midsection, which is what I want them to suck out.

She tosses her hive of curly red hair from side to side and angles her face towards the harsh glow of the fluorescent bathroom light.

She's self conscious some inflammation remains from her recent facelift.

I still have swelling around here, and I had a humotonga when I had it, so one of my sides on my face was a bit more swollen.

It's very subtle.

It's not a lot, but I can see a little bit.

I'm sure a doctor would be noticed it.

But it just takes a while to settle in.

With this morning's collaboration canceled, Molly attempts to muster up the enthusiasm to film some solo videos.

After all, as a DIY creator, she needs to ensure she's continually pumping out content that keeps her subscribers handing over their monthly payments.

Trying to work out how to improvise, because I definitely could take photos, I could definitely make you know, little videos myself.

There's a whole bunch of things that I could do on my own.

I was like, okay, so if now the other person is not going to come, I might as well just get ready and then, you know, just try to just vibe myself into a good mood.

As a single mom who makes a living as a mil Molly says every aspect of her day is carefully timed to accommodate her son.

She can't help but give some motherly advice to the flaky performers she often collaborates.

With as a mother.

I mean, I would just say the recipe for success in life, you know, as a person, is to be organized.

And I guess my ultimate schedule is my son's school scaled.

So that's the schedule, which is probably every parents schedule, right.

But yes, I don't fly by the seat of my pants like I did before when I was younger, just with everything.

Molly finishes her makeup and prepares to strip off to film some videos.

But there's another hitch to the plan.

She can't find her equipment.

I went out to my car and I couldn't find my tripod and a keyble for my ring light.

So later she'll head back across the road to the expo, ready to sell more mousepads.

A few steps ahead of her is the competition Jennifer White.

Perhaps you're familiar with some of her cinematic back catalog, including such titles as Anal, Love and Mills Volume two, All Star Moms, A Kinky Family, Mothers and Stepsons Volume six, and Mom's Licked Teams Volume thirty one.

Hot tip.

You don't need to obsceen the first thirty volumes for the latest edition to make sense.

I average about thirty to forty rand a month.

And how much are you posting every day every day?

What kind of content that's very sexual?

Yeah, so it's a mix of wholesome content that gets freaky.

Jennifer is doing the rounds of the expo to celebrate her four nominations at the Awards later this week.

Like Angela White, Jennifer is also nominated for Female Performer of the Year.

But there's a big difference between the two ladies.

While they both share the same surname, they don't share the same view on milf hood.

Angela told me she's firmly against doing milf porn because it's not on brand, but Jennifer has embraced the role at thirty six years old.

First milf I think was maybe four or five years ago.

It was like right before I got my boobs done.

So but yeah, yeah, I'm doing it more and more over the years.

When I usually do milf scenes, they usually involve a step son.

It's pretty cool.

It's uh.

When I first started in the industry.

I was the young eighteen year old, so to transition into milfcorn is it's it's different, but it's fun.

It's before I would get cast with a lot of established gentlemen, I guess you put it nicely, and now I'm getting a lot of the younger hot studs.

So yeah, it's a it's cool.

I like it.

So when I first started, it was the transition from DVD to Internet, and yeah, now it's the transition from Internet to OnlyFans, which I think is really interesting, or the merge of Internet to only fans.

Yeah, there's mixed feelings about it because a lot of these DII creators are they're independent.

They don't need the mainstream companies to stay afloat.

So the mainstream companies don't like that very much, you know.

They they want to shoot these girls, but the girls want to either charge a ridiculous amount or just not shoot for mainstream at all, which is fine, you know, but it polarizes the industry a little bit, and.

Is that causing tension.

It's making the talent pool smaller, So that's harder on like production managers and companies to hire for sure, because a lot of the girls Like I said, they either want to charge a ridiculous amount or they just don't want to do the shoots at all.

So now the companies are scrounging to find good talent, but they're struggling.

What's the wildest thing you've done in your career.

It's got to be a split between my fifty guy Creampie gang bang and my double anal scene.

Tell me a little bit more about the fifty guy gang bang.

What's happening behind the scenes that people wouldn't see on the video.

What's happening behind the scenes.

I had like an ice pack on my I see you get very sore, very very sore with that Mini Dix.

And yes, the ice pack was very necessary and I was out of commission for at least two three days after that.

This might explain why Bonnie Blue, who just completed her world record gang bang with one thousand guys just one week ago, is still nowhere to be found.

I ask Jennifer, who's also nominated this year for Best gang Bang Scene, what she thinks of Bonnie's attempt.

I've heard the name.

Something I read was that I guess Bonnie Blue had the beef with Lily Phillips.

But they got to understand that they're not the first ones to think of this, you know, like there was w Do's Dallas.

There was so many before them.

And it's not taking anything away.

I don't think from Bonnie for you know, Lily, to go and do that first.

I think it would be just as impactful for both of them.

And there you have it.

After all, mother knows best.

People definitely get jaded in this industry over time.

I feel like there's a disconnect and you don't realize until you're talking to people outside of the industry that you're like, Wow, I've been in the monkey cage too long.

Out of the blue, I suddenly get word about Bonnie.

I bid farewell to gangbang goddess turned milk Jennifer White, and rush through the casino like a single working mom who's late for the school pickup, shoving through groups of sweaty men who look like the comic book guy from The Simpsons.

It's six pm here on a Friday night, and I'm going to pay Bonnie a visit.

I've been informed that she's hiding out in her luxury rental mansion in Las Vegas.

I'm going to try catch a glimpse of the real person behind the character Bonnie Blue.

Please, I need to find Bonnie Blue before she disappears again out of my way.

Next time on sex Lies and Streamings.

After ducking and diving all week avoiding the interview that I flew to Las Vegas for, I finally tracked down Bonnie Blue inside her home.

It's the guyin of house that you'd see in a movie like Clueless, where her team is in crisis mode and they've left the front iron glass door open.

After becoming the Internet's favorite villain, who is Bonnie Blue?

Behind closed doors?

We're kicking back on Bonnie's bed pillows, aren't they.

That's next time on sex Lies and Streaming.

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