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Destiny: Fotoula Adrimi: Sacred Mysticism of Egypt

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Speaker 1

Welcome to Destiny.

Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

Speaker 2

How many times have we talked about zep Teppe.

We've heard it from Jesus everybody, Hancock, h Newman, Andrew Collins, Chris Dunn.

I mean almost to a person, it seems like we've heard about zep Teppy.

What is zep TEPPI?

It's the first time in Egypt.

It's the beginning.

It's when the documents were being scribed.

We don't know the age.

Some people think it's, oh, what, twelve thousand years ago, nine five hundred years ago?

How could that be?

That's the time zone of the catastrophic event that wipes everything out, is at the starting time?

We don't know.

I mean it's funny because if we look at the king's list of the Sumerians that goes back over two hundred thousand years, and of course our archaeologists can't fatom that number, and so they think it's a myth.

Same thing goes with the Egyptian King's List that goes back several thousand years before the Dynastics.

Traditional Egyptologists believe that the Egyptian Pharonic period, we're talking about pharaohs and their queens started five thousand years ago, but it doesn't look like the first time fits in that scenario.

It feels like it fits a lot further back, and it still remains to be seen how old the pyramids are, how old the temples are.

One of my great fascinations are the standing statues, these magnificent statues that were carved in granite that are cycloptic.

They're monsters, they're megalists.

They're weighing in at you know, eighty tons, and they're thirty to fifty feet tall.

And what's really strange about them is they're so elegantly carved.

They're so perfect.

They're too perfect.

As Chris dun calls it, the level of perfection is beyond a human's ability, and that means the sculptures are not made by humans.

They're made by some machines.

By the way, Chris is going to be on the show in a couple of weeks and we're going to talk to him about the sculptures, because in his first book he describes this level of precision and this is something that I just am fascinated in.

But today we are looking at zep Tepi the first time from the eyes and this is an ideal subject for destiny.

We're looking at it from the paranormal perspective, somebody who can pass through and capture a lifetime during zep Tepi, when things were much pure, when there was a ritual and there was meditation, and there was connection to the Earth energy.

And so that is the theme and that is the design for today's program.

Well why should we care about that?

Well, Egypt is a huge influence on most of us because even if we agree that it's only five thousand years old, that's a long time five thousand years for a country to be in existence.

That means if you follow the Hindus of reincarnation, you're living many lifetimes there.

And so many of us have very solid life experienced and so we have a fascination.

When I first went to Egypt seven eight years ago, I was shocked at how familiar everything felt.

And you know, the only thing I didn't feel really that comfortable with, and it's probably because it's a machine, is we do these private visits into the Great Cufu, the Great Pyramid, and it's there's no air and they don't pump any air in there, so it's stagnant air, and it's stifling hot, and so you just kind of most of your way around there, and you get in into the King's chamber and you can see that it's really not made for people to be in.

It's made for whatever, the creation of energy some you know, toleric field measurement, frequency capture or whatever.

We don't know, but it's it's amazing when you consider how sophisticated all these machines are.

And the older I get, and this is just a side note, the older I get.

And it seems like this is also the theme of many of our guests on Destiny and Earth Ancients.

It's a profound realization that there's no way the Pharaohs built the pyramids.

There's no way that they carve these magnificent statues.

There's no way that they had the technology to cut obelisks, to cut granite blocks.

And remember the Great Pyramid is made up of blocks away an average of two point five tons each.

How the hell did they get that three hundred and forty feet in the air.

Nobody knows, Nobody can.

I mean, there's just no way.

We can't reproduce it.

Now we have no idea how they did it.

Then and so it's a whole different level of conscious is a whole different level of science.

And that's the other thing.

And I don't want to beat this too hard.

The representative of Egyptology, Zahi doctor Zahie Owas of the Supreme Antiquities Department, said he didn't know what ze Zeptepe was on Joe Rogan's program.

You know this three hundred million excuse me, thirty one million downloads a month of listeners.

And here's Zahi Owas, the foremost authority in Egyptology, saying that he doesn't know what zep tepy is.

Come on, and you've got to remember doctor Karakuney, remember her, professor of Egyptology at UCLA.

And I say this a lot, I have to repeat it.

She says Egyptology is dead.

And I wonder if that extends to archaeology.

If their universities, if the universities where these guys are being women and men are being educated, is only and this are people that are getting PhDs doctorates.

If they only allow a civilization to be a certain age five thousand years and anything before that is hunters and gatherers.

What happens with if there's evidence for older pyramids and older cultures.

What do we do about that older sophisticated cultures, Well, I don't know.

I think they get a mental blog.

And I'm blessed to have people like Ed Barnhardt on the program who is much more flexible, and it is not an age of ptologies.

He's a Mayanist, which gives us more flexibility.

And the beauty in that situation is we only have about one percent of the Mayan culture down and understood.

I don't know what we understand regarding the Pharonic period and the pre Dynastic period.

I don't think it's a huge amount, but I have to question it.

So we're gonna be talking about paranormal events today and paranormal abilities tapping into the ancient past.

So today's program is Sacred Mysticism of Egypt, the ancient faith of Hera Initiation.

And my guest is Fotula a DREAMI.

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This tour is perfect for you.

We talk about Egypt quite a bit here on Destiny, but we don't get into the esoteric enough of course.

On Earth Ancients, we talk about the monuments, the discoveries, the scanning technology, that's revealing a great deal more about these ancient emphasis than we have ever known.

But today we are introducing a new book called Sacred Mysticism of Egypt, the Ancient Path of Heca Initiation, and the the author is Fortula Adreamy, who isn't intuitive, She's a psychic, and what makes this fun is that she at a certain age, began getting impressions of this early period of Egypt known as zep Tepi, and zep Tepi up until very recently, was thought to be a myth, very early period where the pharaohs referred to as the beginning of Egypt.

But as it turns out, we're going to learn a lot more than the myth.

As it is because Fortula actually has had past lives there and recalls them to such a level that we really get a sense of them.

So Fortula, welcome to Destiny.

Great to have you on the program.

Speaker 1

It's wonderful to be here.

Thank you so much Cliff for inviting me, and thank you to everybody listening.

I have such a passion for ancient Egypt and is really where my spiritual home and I dream of that time.

I feel its calling me.

This time of zeb Teppi, where we were so connected to ourselves, to the earth, to the cosmos, to the universe, to the divine and there is a yearning in myself for that time.

So maybe sometimes people feel that feel, you know, there is a place where we can call home, and that was come for me.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about your childhood, Fortula, your Greek ancestry.

You write in your book in the very beginning that you were sensitive, your psychic and your dad even says you speak to more dead people than you do people that are alives.

What was that like growing up in Greece.

Were you with a Greek Orthodox family, religious family or was it more just simple lifestyle.

Speaker 1

So it was not easy.

It was not easy.

But my family there, they're not Orthodox really that they are of course everybody in Greece is this a culture.

We're Greek Orthodox people, but you know, they word church, churse or anything like that.

And my dad is an engineer.

He's a very scientific person, so he doesn't believe in anything.

The only thing he believes is in Greek Salmanism, and he says that's real to him because his grandfather was you know what we call in the West the shaman.

They don't.

They don't have that word in Greece.

But he was practicing shamanism in his time, and he tried to teach my dad.

My dad said that he was not interested as a child because he wanted to play, but because it was a hereditary vocation, he had to sit with his grandfather over hours and hours doing the ritual with herbs and with everything else.

Speaker 2

So stop you real quickly.

Speaker 3

So grandfather was a shaman great grandfather, Yeah, And so was he affiliated with a tribe with a group or was he just indoctrinated as a young person to and perhaps he's a psychic as well, but was he He was obviously a huge influence on you.

Speaker 2

But where did his roots began?

Speaker 1

So so, Greek salmon is me is very secret and it's passed through the family, so it's not the group.

It's like really close from one person to another.

And in my family it was passed down through the male line.

That's how my father was the first male born in his family.

So his grandfather told him you have to do it because it's the first male born child that needs to carry the tradition.

So it's not people know.

Well, at my great grandfather's age you know, in the sixties and even in the sixties, fifties and sixties, people would go to him for all sorts of things, you know, Ailment's case removal, blessings, tell us when what the weather is going to be like for the year.

He used to do all of that kind of thing.

But so there was that understanding in my family.

But my parents were not really religious, and I was very connected.

I was actually really drawn to not religion, but to the church, to the divine to do all these beings called Mother, Mary and Jesus.

I could feel all the angels.

I was so open and my parents, I think were a bit frightened of that child who could speak about all these things.

So I decided not to say anything.

It was better for me not to say anything, because the idea was if you if you said, you know, I speak to Mother Marry, they think either there's something wrong with you, you're crazy, or this is devil's work, even if his mother.

You know, only the priest can speak to to these beings, so you you are connecting to something you should stay away from.

So there was this huge fear.

This is fear in the community of anybody connecting or seeing things it was like branded devil's work.

Don't do that.

So I kept I kept it to myself, and as long, for as long as I kept to myself, I had a wonderful experiences.

This was this was a real joy for me.

Speaker 2

But your grandfather must have encouraged you.

I mean, if you're seeing and hearing spirits and and uh naturally communicating, if your parents were freaked out, your grandfather was probably saying, don't worry about it.

I mean, tell me talk about how you he woruld work with you.

Obviously, if you're sensitive, you know, you want to know what the heck's going on.

Speaker 1

Yeah, So the lineage is patriarchical, and Greece is very everything is really patriarchical, and spirituality was no different.

So my great grandfather, it was my great grandfather, my grandfather.

So my great grandfather told everybody that it's unlucky for women to do any spiritual work.

It's not good for women to have visions.

So you can see the control of the patriarchy.

So when I started, you know, after years and years doing some monic work myself, doing opening to my family saying this is what I do.

The first thing my father said is that.

You know, my grandfather said that it's unlucky for women to do this kind of thing.

You should not.

I'm not going to share anything with you, and so it was quite quite difficult.

So I prayed to the spirits to help me, and after two years he opened up and he shared with me his tradition.

But as a child, you know, it was very much like women should not meddle in this.

And my grandmother, I didn't know her.

So that's my dad's mother.

She was very open, very psychic.

Wonderful story about her.

But we're here to talk about Egypt, so I'm not going to I have so many things I could say about.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about you.

You writing your book that you're very clairvoyant.

What does that mean and how do you apply it to your life?

Speaker 1

So the first thing, you know that I started seeing was images.

So basically, if I have a question, I will see an image that describes the answer that I'm looking looking for.

And sometimes but it's much more air.

I actually see the spirits with my eyes open.

When I was a child, I had no doubt whatsoever or what I was seeing because whatever I was asking for, you know, the prayers of a child it would happen.

You know, I would pray for something to these spirits that were coming into my mind that they were appearing sometimes also in front of me, and they would say, sure, you know what if you want to win the ruffle at school, you know, okay, you're coming with an open heart.

Why not?

So so things were so easy.

I mean I would really really ask them something and it would happen.

And so I had no doubt.

And they were also very protective of me, and they were they were really guiding me in my life.

But they wouldn't you know, I don't want to give people the impression that they would live my life for me.

Of course, you have to go through the holes and come out of the dark holes that life opens for you as well, so you can learn.

And sometimes it's the helping spirits that trip you.

So you can see.

You know, we told you not to do that.

This is what happens.

You don't you don't consider things properly.

But but yes, I had this great connection act also here spirit and I can still do that.

They come and talk through me more now more what is happening with me more is that I merge with my helping spirits and they speak through my mouth.

And when I do healing work, they would move my hands.

They will take things, you know, intrusions from people's bodies, they will take things out they will bring so they would use my body.

They will kind of merge with me.

When I was a child, I was more of an observer of them and hearing them, feeling them in my body.

And sometimes I would have this very deep feeling that this is this, this is something here and and and as a child sometimes I didn't understand it.

Also, I would get a bit frightened somehow when the spiritual energy would come, you know, really in the room.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 1

And and and some of the guides that are are considered like family now like a newbies.

Uh, you know, it was it was a bit scary at first.

Speaker 2

Let me just ask you, Fortula, do you have spirit guides?

What were you calling these helpers?

Are the spirit GUIDs or the angels?

Do you have a name for them that's comfortable?

Because these are these are these are beings that appear to be as active in your life as real physical beings.

Speaker 1

Yes, they they are, and uh, they are.

I'm very I'm very fortunate to have this connection.

But I think it's a connection that is inherent in our human self and in zeb Tepi in ancient digit that was that was very much there for everybody.

I believe in that time.

There were no shamans in ancient digital of this ancient time because everybody was connected.

Everybody was so connected.

But for me, these beings cliffs are like, you know, how can I describe?

I described them as part of my family.

Really, you know, my first book I dedicated to my earthly mother and also to my divine mother.

Goddess isis and goddess is not really the word that you know, we should use because we have, you know, a vision of what God or goddess is from our Western culture.

But these beings of light maybe beings of light and light and beings is a better better term.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So in your book, you write, since twenty two thousand and six, you've been remembering, you've been remembering the zep Tappee period.

What happened in two thousand and six that shifted you to Egypt?

Was there a certain guy that came through or someone said, you're going to be start You're going to start remembering more about this period of time.

Talk a little bit about that opening.

Speaker 1

Well, Isis came into my life.

She really came into my life in the meditation, and she asked me if I wanted to be her teacher again, and I said yes, because who would say no.

I was just like, I didn't know what I was signing up for.

I said yes, and then things that started to happen.

There was in two thousand and six I went to Egypt, but I also went to Knoso's as well, which is in crete, is the Minoan crete which was People call it the palace, but what I saw was a huge temple complex.

So no, not just the palace, just so much more than that.

And after that I received from Isis.

She came through and she gave me this first system that is called the seven Gates of Awareness.

Then she took me to Egypt and I saw these gates in the in a temple.

It's a little temple of Osius inside Karnak a little chapel, and she saw me, says, this is the teaching that I'm giving you, that you are channeling.

So she started with giving me the initiation process of the myster is.

How I can invite people in the midst there is, how can merge with her and through mesic can raise people's vibrations, so we can start to become more connected and and channeling.

Heka.

Hekka is the part of creation that we all had access to in Seteppy in ancient Egypt, and we we still I have access to.

Speaker 2

Okay, So I consider zep Teppy a period.

But I also because we're not really told by the Egyptological community that's an actual period.

I consider zep Teppy so far back in our history, that our Egypt's history, that it's hard to really fato him that there were actual people there.

But talk about zep Teppy, what do you understand it to be?

And also if you wouldn't mind, I think that you probably have never have had a number of past lives there as well.

Speaker 1

Yes, that's right.

So when I started working with Isis, it was a friend of mine from America who was a mentor for me at the time, and Frank Bobcok and I never met him in flesh.

You manifested in the room and then somebody got in touch, got me and him in touch.

So there were things like that happening, strange things, and he said, you should really look into your past lives because he could see me as this Egyptian person, and that's why he came to me in the room.

He said, I came to pay my respects.

But I had I was complete.

You know, I was really ignorant by then, you know, at that point.

So I said, yeah, okay, I will look into it.

I will investigate my past life in Egypt.

And as I say in the book Sacred Mysticism of Egypt, the first time I tried to go to zeb Tepi, it was like the question came, why do you want to go to the golden times of ancient Egypt?

What is your intention?

And my answer, my first answer, which was because Frank said it's a good idea or I'm curious about it, didn't get me anywhere.

I was back in my body.

Everything just shut down.

I couldn't see anything.

And then I thought, I really need to dig deep.

And my answer was the second answer was I want to go to see Zetepe because maybe there is something there that I can help people at this time here now.

Maybe I can bring some knowledge or some understanding that can help our world now.

And that intention goes more altruistic, of course, and that opened the doors So the next thing is I am in these megalithic temples, you know, like the Temple of the Sphinx, the Valley Temple, the Ocyrian Temple, these big megalithic structures, and what I see there, I see me doing ceremony there.

I'm in a different body.

Of course, my skin is quite dark, and I feel, you know that.

I go in to the temple and I felt this immense heat.

Of course, I'm in Glasgow.

My body is in Glasgow, and it's very cold and wet here, but there could really feel the heat.

And I could feel the humidity as well, which you don't have now in it, right because now in Egypt is very very dry climate.

Speaker 2

You have the desert.

Speaker 1

But I could feel humidity was just like really almost like difficult to breathe humid.

And then I see that the walls are bare.

They don't have any hieroglyphics, they don't have any any images, but they have all of that written in energy.

So the walls are constructed bare, but the energy the language, there is a sacred language that is on the walls.

And I start to connect with that energy.

I start to connect with that language because I see the images.

I see how I could, you know, because I was a spirit, of course, you know, I could also go through the walls and go to the next to the next level.

I see the underground and parts of these temples, and I see in the underground that there is so much power because the ceremonies were done underground to really harness that energy coming deep from the earth.

And and I see that the underground of the temples is as important, if not more important, from what we see at the top, And that there are many levels that we haven't really discovered yet or we are not allowed to discover yet.

But I see, for example, that the pyramids and the Temple of the Sphinx are connected underground.

You know that has not been discovered.

But you know, in in my vision, you know, I could go through through through a tunnel from the valve the Temple of the Sphinx to the pyramid, and it will take a different place where you know we go now from the main entrance.

Speaker 2

How do you know?

How do you know, Futula, that it was the first time zeb Tepi is that language provided by the priests that you're remembering as that person in that time?

Speaker 1

And no, that was my intention because I felt that, well, what was the guidance, my own guidance, the inner guidance that I had was that I needed to go back to zeb Tepi, because that was when the energy was so pure.

And if I'm looking for help for a humanity right now, you have to go back to the beginning.

You have to remember where you came from, and that was the time.

Speaker 2

So your intention of your intention of meditative going back to the first time, which is you use the language zept Tepy, led you to this lifetime where you were in eachypt at the very beginning.

Speaker 1

Yes, yes, it was my intention, but also it was that that guidance that that's when it was the energy was pure in the fire earning times.

They inherit the wisdom of zept Tepy.

They inherit the the you know, the pyramid texts, the myths, all this, all this rich tradition, and they practiced it as their religion, as a spiritual tradition in the mysteries.

It's much more than a religion.

It's a spiritual practice.

But what they do, they said, my helping spirit said at that time there is also the corruption.

You know, there's great work being done in the temples, but the whole of the human race has fallen into a lower vibrational states, so the teachings are not as pure, but because they inherited what they you know, all this tradition, it is very useful to remember whatever we can remember from ancient digits, even later on, and even going now to the temples, you know, I go to to temples who were built later on, like like Abby Doors, amazing temple, the Ocidan behind it is from Zeptepi, But the main temple of Seti, the first is an incredible temple, is so alive and the energy is continuing.

So I feel that somehow zeb tep is there in the beginning is the purest form of the of the teachings.

But then somehow they come, they flow, the energy flows.

The journey continues throughout the Pharaohic Egypt as well.

Speaker 2

So zep Tepi is considered the period during where the gods who were alive Osiris and Horrorce and those other gods.

Did you see them?

Were they human beings or were they actual beings of light or ets?

Some people think that the early except Teppy prayer was an et initiation.

Speaker 1

So I didn't see I'm sorry, I didn't see extra terrestrials, but I saw people being so connected to the stars, so connected to the cosmos, and knowing that you know, here on the Earth were an outpost of beings who you know, we came from different places.

So we all have come from different places on the Earth, and because we are all so different, we have to kind of try and work it out and live together, which is really tough because we are not of the same place, all of us.

Earth has so many difference, souls of different level of understanding.

And in zept Teppy, though the people who had come were much more aware.

We were still born.

You know, we didn't manifest out of in air.

We were still born through this amazing miracle of life that the Earth gave us these bodies.

But our bodies of a great vibration, and we could self heal ourselves, and our life span was much greater.

So people can say, well, I remember, you know sometimes zbt Tepi, but I can't figure it out because there was so many you know, I can't have lived like one.

Life can't last for so long our current life.

No, But in zept Tepy we had an incredible ability to self heal through universal energy that we are now tapping into again through holistic medicine.

But there it was just like of flowing.

The universal energy was was something that was so tangible that we could really feel.

There was no question about it being there.

And actually we used the universal energy to power our civilization to uh to construct the pyramids and the temples we see now we use the universal energy for electricity for everything.

It was part of our experience making electricity out of thin air.

That was that was the way, because this this athic energy is part of the cosmos and and part of flowing to us too.

Speaker 2

We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves and will return shortly with my guest today for Tula ad Remi presenting her new book Sacred Mysticism of Egypt.

Will be right back.

My guest today is Fortuna Adriami.

She is discussing her new book, Sacred Mysticism of Egypt.

This is a targeted period that she is chronicling, known as zep Tepi the first time the Golden Age of Egypt.

Can you talk a little bit about what you experienced when you went back to that time period of the Pyramids, because you know, a lot of people still feel that the Pyramids were tombs.

But engineers who visit and we have a lot of these people on our program, believe it was a giant engine of some kind and energy producing machine.

The other thing I'd like you to talk a little bit about is the energy machine generated energy and what was it used for?

Speaker 1

Yes, so the pyramids were multipurpose, and I absolutely agreed that the Pyramids were built by engineers.

I mean I kind of sometimes think, you know, can't we now see that what you see then?

In plain sight?

I mean, we can look at the pyramids and see, how can we think that these pyramids were built by unskilled workers or slaves?

You know, how can we think that when we look at the work that is done there.

You know, we cannot even construct these pyramids now, I mean, nobody has tried.

But it's a magnificent, magnificent, uh miracle of engineering and and this this uh yeah, they are of course, they are machines.

They are multi purposed.

They bring the universal energy they they converted.

This is like an energy generator that is connecting the whole of their world.

Not just Egypt, but it goes back to Atlantis, and it goes back further.

So these pyramids are not just in Egy well discovered, you know, the Bosnian Pyramids are being discovered.

We might discover other things as well.

The standing stones, I think they're connected to the pyramids, and I think they what they have created it was sacred sides, because they had also said the ritual and ceremony and devolution of consciousness was also part of this work.

But it was also you know, the practical side of being a machine and the spiritual side of being a sacred site.

But they are also connecting etherically the whole of their world.

And what happens is they create electricity, they create radio waves, they create communication, They create communication because whatever you know you can do inside the pyramid is communicated etherically around the Earth.

Now we don't have, you know, the we can't really listen and read and feel what is being communicated, what is being transmitted, because it's in the form of energy.

But if we could, we would be able to understand that they are actually transmitting through the whole planet and beyond with these structures.

So for me, I had an experience in this lifetime about this.

It was the day before the spring equinox in twenty and eleven, and it was a full moon, and we went into one of the pyramids, not a great pyramids and other pyramids of Kisa, so the later ones.

It was a da Sure pyramid and it has three chambers.

We end up in the third chamber, which is something that you don't really see because the third chamber is one where you basically are going through a corridor.

It's made of wood, so it's a modern thing.

And you see there and below you are boulders, big boulders coming out of the earth, and sulfur coming out as well, so there's a bit of a smell there, but you have the element of fire.

So as we go in with my group, some people are taken over.

They can't remember what happened, but we all started chanting, and we were all there chanting, and I just noticed some people started chanting.

Everybody starts chanting, and then there was a man there meditating.

He joins us and he starts chanting with us, and we have this vision that what is happening is that our chanting at that time is being transmitted all over the earth from this space and the cosmos, and I see the pyramid becoming so active, and we stayed there, we had lost any sense of time.

And then the guards came and said, look, we're closing the place, can you please please happened And when we came out, they were all in their cars waiting for us to come out and so they could go home.

So yeah, yes, in zeb Tepi, I think the pyramids where incredible places of using the etheric energy to create electricity to create and physical energy to create communication, and as sacred places of initiation for the evolution of consciousness.

Because the Great Pyramid it's called the Place of ascension, that's its name, never the place of ascension, So it was about ascending from this this physical body into your infinite spirit.

Uh And and I believe that the in the what we call the King's Chamber and where you know the sarcophacus, there is the place where all these lay lines beat, all the power comes there from the pyramid, and it's where people would lie down to go through their initiation, to raise the vibration, to raise their consciousness.

So that's that's what I have seen.

Speaker 2

And you know, I haven't even thought about that.

That that in the King's chamber that one.

Speaker 1

Uh.

Speaker 2

I guess you could call it built in sarcophagus because it's attached to the floor.

Speaker 1

Uh.

Speaker 2

Would be all would be directly under all the lay lines which intersect.

There must be a super powerful area to lay You know, I've been in that chamber many many times, but I haven't had I felt too, I felt something very eerie about considering laying inside that that box.

Speaker 3

Uh.

Speaker 2

But as you say, it's all the temples, all the pyramids that we know about that are Egyptian appear to be built over lay lines.

I mean, I've been to the Hathor Temple in Dindera.

Have you been there?

Speaker 1

Yes?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Something's very special about that place because the rooms, each of the room seems to be vibrating a certain harmonic and so it's like that place is still turned on.

Are the temples still active?

Do you think?

Speaker 1

Yes?

I do think so.

I do think so.

And what has happened with being was that in twenty ten, actually a year before two thousand and nine, my helping spirit I sis It came and said, I want you to lead a pilgrimage needed and she told me exactly where to go to which temples to go and what ceremony I should do in each of these temples.

Every time I go, it's different, but they are so alive, they meet us.

They you know, we go there with a pure intention and the place is vibrating.

But sometimes, you know what happens with the pyramid.

I feel that sometimes if you go when there are tourists around, it's like the place is sleeping because people have gone there and they said that I was so excited I would go to the Great Pyramid, but I didn't feel anything.

But if you go there when there are no tourists, and I have had this privilege and a gift is really a gift.

And I think the Egyptian people who who could do that?

So they gave me the special time, the two hours.

Speaker 2

It's called the private visit.

Speaker 1

It's a private visit, that's right, and do that.

Yeah, and you go there and we go there and we do ceremony.

Now that pyramid is just so alive.

There is no doubt in anybody's mind that this place is absolutely puzzing with etheraeric energy, with energy of light that's helping us all come into ourselves in you know, evolve, elevate, our consciousness and our vibration.

So it's a very very special place.

And I love Egypt.

I love zep Tepi.

It's my spiritual home.

It's not there yet, but they left us their structures so that we can now wake up go back to that.

I think they left us a legacy.

Speaker 2

Yeah, your book has different chapters where you have initiative like meditations and thought provoking activities.

Is that the design of the book that you put together so that people kind of remember that period of zep Teppi or is it more for anybody who wants to kind of get a sense of ancient Egypt.

Speaker 1

Well, I think the book is a bit of both.

It's a bit of both.

So people can read the book if they wish to understand what is the mystery school of ancient Egypt, how did people view the spirit, the soul, what were the teachings, what they were working on, and hopefully they can maybe find parallels with their own understanding and maybe it helps people who are on a spiritual path.

So the book is a great book for the spiritual seeker.

And you know, sometimes people say, well, you know, I'm following another spiritual tradition.

I'm not sure about Egypt, or I'm doing things you know in South America or you know, North America.

Whatever.

But in the ancient world we used to say that nobody really holds the whole picture.

We all have a little part of the puzzle, and if we put them together, we can learn from each other.

So it's not just the one thing.

And the ancient Greeks were great on that.

They had all these temples, all these different deities from Egypt too, and they said, you know, all the enlightened beings have something to teach us.

So whatever is the tradition, bring it here and maybe we can expand our consciousness and have a bigger picture.

So I think for anybody who is on a spiritual path, this is a great book to open, you know, your third eye and see you know, another part of the puzzle about spiritual awakening.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I like that because you're kind of talking about a level of humanity that we don't pay attention to, which is our spirituality.

And this period of zep Tippy you're talking about was very, very pure, and if we can connect with it, it's probably going to be a detox, isn't it.

And not only that, it's going to be an opening, I think.

Speaker 1

So, I think we will understand so much more about the evolution of our soul and the eternity of our spirit and what we're doing here on earth.

You know, what is the current period we're going through, and how we are coming out of that period, and what is the next period we are growing into.

So I think, you know, the ancient Egyptians, like other cultures, left us with their prophecies, with their myths that you know, in face value, you could say, well, their fairy tales or nice stories.

But when you go deeper, that's where the book takes you, is to offer you that other understanding, that other layer, as you are basically unveiling lifting the veil of ices ice is unveiled, as they say in the esoteric world, drifting the veil and seeing a different picture.

Speaker 2

We hear about the kings list in Sumeria that goes back two hundred and sixty thousand years.

There's also an Egyptian kings list, but we don't really know how far it goes back because the Egyptologists stop at known pharaohs, they don't go into the distant path.

What would you say, well, I mean, this might be difficult, but what would you say is a time period for zep Teppi.

Speaker 1

So you know, as historical reference that we have is from Plato.

So Plato talks about, you know, his fellow Athenian who lived before him, Soloon.

So in the classical Greece, and Soloon goes to Egypt and they tell they talk to him about Atlantis and they talk to him about this first time.

So they say that it was at least ten thousand years before Solon's time.

So that's ten thousand years before classical Greece.

So that's you're there talking about ten thousand, five hundred BC, you know, roughly lovely speaking, but of course it's you know, further back.

You know, that is just the one time that is when you know the fall starts.

But you know, if you go further back, I would say, you know, easily, you're talking about fifteen thousand BC.

Thirty fifteen thousand to thirteen and a half thousand BC, is you could say the golden time in Egypt.

It might be further, you know, much further, but that's the time that I remember in Egypt.

Then when it comes to the ten thousand, nine thousand, six hundred, that's where you have the fall, that's where things start to go wrong.

But in Egypt they still retain that.

And I think when phiah only gig it starts at five thousand BC, when the Egyptology stay, Yeah, that's where you know, fire only cage it starts.

What you have is that the unification of the two nations Upper and Lower Egypt.

So lower Egypt is where these people from zeb Debbi, from Atlantis and jetpr keeping themselves to themselves until that time they are stationed in the pyramids in Heliopolis or you know, or Cairo or their station there.

Then they realize there are too few of us left.

We are losing everything.

We need to connect with the other people here and then the north and the South come together.

So for me, the unification of Egypt that the Lower Egypt, which is the north of Egypt are the Atlantians are the people from that came after the fall of Atlantis, the people who talk about zeb Tepe, who still remember, you know, the remnants of that, and then the indigenous population was in the south, they come and form one nation because they won't be enough of the of them, you know, the Atlantians left and they have to somehow continue their tradition.

So that is what I have seen, and I have seen the effort that these people have made to continue the spiritual tradition of the evolution of the soul, which is the exit point from the conditioned reality through their temple work.

What they have created there and how important that was for them.

Speaker 2

What do we see as the remnants of Atlantis when you go to zep Teppi, is Atlanta still around or has it?

Has it ended?

And you're looking at the refugees of Atlantics in Egypt.

Speaker 1

So what I saw was that that that it was the Atlantians who create the pyramids, who go and build the pyramids.

So at some point some of the Atlantians as they went to other places in the world, you know, they go and build pyramids elsewhere as well.

They have a master plan that they wish to connect as much of the earth that was available to them through through etheric energy, and that's why they build all the sacred sites on on places of power where the lay lines cross, and some of them go and live there.

There is like an outpost, it's like a place where you know, they go and they are Atlantians living in Egypt.

Now when Atlantis falls.

What I have seen is that some of those Atlantians who escape the Great flood, they come to the places where these outposts, where one of these places is Egypt, and they try to, you know, come together and continue as much as possible their life there.

But of course they don't have access anymore to the superpower of Atlantis, that was the big machine of etheric energy.

They don't have as much access to that.

It's just like the peration, you know, becomes lower and lower.

They can't regenerate their bodies.

They can do other things that they were able to do, but still they have some sort of limited access.

But it is like as we're coming closer to our time, all of that is becoming less and less, and eventually they realize the only way to keep it safe is to go through the temple tradition, because if they give that technology again to people, then that might to everybody that might be misused.

Speaker 2

And yet there's so many examples of high technology in Egypt every place I go, from the stone cutting, to the perfection and pyramid design, to sculptures that are so perfect they could not have been cut by human hand, you know, these big sculptures of ramses second, which he claimed, but there are probably thousands of years before he even existed and he decided to put his cartousha on there.

It's a really fascinating idea that that I see whenever I go to Egypt.

But can you talk about some examples of the of the high technology that was in place during zep teppy.

Speaker 1

So one of the examples is you know, you mentioned the statues, but one of the examples that I remember seeing my first visit and my first visit to Egypt, is that an unfinished sarcophagus.

That where you have the sarcophagus that somebody started cutting and it's almost as if the cut the rock just once because if they had, you know, the cut at the wrong angle, so you can see that, oh it's not not cut straight.

But if they were like just using the copper tools bit by bit, they would have discovered you know, I'm not going on a straight line.

Yeah, you know, was earlier on, but this is something that's been cut once and this does somebody made the mistake.

Speaker 2

And you talk about the circophagus at the museum, Yes, at the museum, Yes, a famous example of a big blade saw cutting.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And so when I saw that.

I asked, how was this cut?

And I saw lasers.

I saw the lasers.

Speaker 2

Really there's cutting.

Speaker 1

The co facus lasers cutting this and I just saw this, you know, the laser, the fire of the laser coming down and cutting this, and I thought, we have no idea.

You know what these people were doing.

It's it's exceptional, but we we have the blinkers on and we can't accept it.

Like things like that.

These arcs in the museum is the perfect example.

You know, the other all these other things that you mentioned, you know, the drill holes, how can they can you have drill holes, you know, so perfect with copper tools.

It's it's impossible, you know, drill holes in granite.

And there are so many examples.

But what I saw was was they were using a laser technology and it's that was the only the only way that I could describe it.

But in zeb Tepi, it wasn't just a technology that was one thing at that pure time.

It was also our consciousness.

The evolution of our consciousness was matching that technology.

That we had such an incredible connection.

You know, we didn't need to use even language.

The language was so sacred because it was so powerful.

The words were so powerful because we were such powerful beings.

But we were powerful beings not in the sense of our everyday world, you know, part over somebody else.

We were like so much in our energy and we had this psychic communication that we now think, well that is so exciting.

It was actually then commonplace we could We could speak mind to mind and.

Speaker 2

We're talking about we were we were talking through telepathy.

Speaker 1

Telepathy.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, we were.

So this is zep type that didn't really have spoken language.

Speaker 1

They they did, but it was like to speak.

It was like to speak was to create.

Oh wow, so what you what you said?

It was almost like, you know, it was not chea chat like I speak and I create.

That was it was like a magical language that Yeah, so that's that's what I saw.

I also saw, Cliff that you know, the people that they had such awareness that they knew where they came from in the cosmos, and I saw that they were able to send back, almost like through this telepathy, that the place I came from.

This is what it's like to live on Earth.

Speaker 2

We're going to take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guest today, Fortula ad Remade, discussing her new book, Sacred Mysticism of Egypt.

This is a look at zep Teppi the first Time from a paranormal perspective.

Will be right back.

Fortula Adrami is a psychic.

She is coming to us today from Scotland and she has written a fascinating look at zep Tepi the first Time of Egypt in a book called Sacred Mysticism of Egypt.

So they handed in car is I mean, I follow the past life theory a little bit, but the older I get, the more I understand that we all don't necessarily keep incarnating from Earth.

We are coming from other planetary systems, instellations and embodying Earthlin bodies with all this ancient paths of other civilizations and things like that.

And so that's what you're talking about, is people remembering where they came from.

Speaker 1

Right yes, yes, and seeing the turning internal journey of their soul.

You know what is past?

What this future?

I'm here now writing this body, in this existence, having an experience of this life on Earth?

What is this like what we're creating here?

But also being very very present, very present, to this lifetime.

And the other thing I wanted to talk about is that at the time of Zeptep there were incredible spiritual teachers, spiritual beings, very highly evolved beings.

And of course you could say everybody was on a spiritual path or very highly evolved, but these beings, you know, did not have They had such incredible consciousness.

They didn't go through the portal of death.

They didn't die the way we died and left live our bodies.

But they were able to transform their body into light.

And because the consciousness is the only thing that exists, is like this body, Okay, we are here for so long, but it's the consciousness that is eternal.

So they could go back into being their consciousness without you know, or their multi dimensional self, without you know, having to die.

They could transform the body into light.

So I saw that as well.

And these incredible beings unfortunately are not on the earth anymore.

But yeah, they have left us, so we have to now help ourselves and come together and wake up.

But what they said is that you know what we are, what we are doing is you can all do.

We are just demonst I think that this is possible for you.

Speaker 2

Are there still parts of Egypt in these temples or perhaps sacred locations like the Assyrian that are used for initiative practice to kickstart the higher levels of consciousness that they once possessed there in ancient Egypt.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think so, Yes, I think so.

It's not talked about and it's not something that is advertised or in any way.

But I have come across very beautiful people, Egyptian people who continue to do this work in their land, and they are guardians of this temple, of these temples, so they are very aware, they know where the powerpoints are and they they have they do healing work.

I had the experiences of that.

But because it's all sort of not allowed in in the in theory, although everybody knows it happens.

Yeah, it's it's like something that I have to respect and not speak much about this kind of thing, but it is the tradition is being continued by by the very people who live there, so that that is a wonderful thing.

Yeah, And and they are very powerful, some of them are very very powerful.

I had an experience in the Temple of rams Is, the third in the West Bankle of Luxor a few years ago.

Again with my group and a person who came from the Egyptian and Egyptian guy who never saw him again, but he was there.

He met us there, He knew exactly how many of us were there, and though some people had not come yet.

Inside the temple, he said he was told that there would be so many people here.

And the place we went inside the temple was not of the vibration of this earth.

And as I went in, I thought, oh my goodness, this vibration is completely different to anything we know on the earth.

And I've been there after many times and it's not been there.

So he was a catalyst.

He had the key to activate that place for us.

Speaker 2

So oh okay, Yeah, I was gonna say a lot of those temples have to be activated.

You can't just go in and hope you get some energy.

But I've always thought, maybe i'd like to get your opinion on this, is that when you go to a sacred archaeological park that does have pyramids or temples that are unique, that if you intentionally ask for the energy to tach you, sometimes it'll work, won't it.

I think it does.

It doesn't maya land.

I think I've tried it at Hathor and it seems to work there as well.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, Hathor is that the temple of Hathor is the temple of the Great Mother, and it is a mother to all of us.

So her door is always open.

So if we go there with an open heart and and say, like you said, may may I I be touched by the energy, and may I receive but whatever I need to receive right now, then she will be there.

Because here, this is this is the place where the door is always open.

The mother never sets the doors to her children.

She wants us to come back to her.

And and so it's it's a wonderful place.

And that's one of the most beautiful temples there.

Speaker 2

How do how are we supposed to work with these ancient energies today in our comple society?

If we can't, I mean, so many people can't afford to go to Egypt.

But can we request the energy?

Can we think back and maybe visualized working with the energy?

How do we work with the energy?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Absolutely, the energies are available to us, you know, universally, because there are you know, in the book, I talk about that a lot, and there's a beautiful, beautiful practice is there for people to connect.

But briefly, just to say that the ancient Egyptian said, there is a physical body.

Of course, it's not in Egypt, it's wherever we are.

But there is another part of us called the double that is the multi dimensional self.

That multi dimensionalself is made of energy.

So we are This multi dimensional self exists beyond space, beyond time.

It can connect with the past like I did in my past lives.

It can connect with a few, It can connect with any place on Earth, any sacred space.

So the first thing is to ask permission, to say, I'm coming here.

I wish to connect with the energy for the highest good, because this energy cannot be misused.

It was when they tried to misuse the energy that Egypt started to fall and was you know, other foreign powers came and conquered Egypt and all of that.

It creates chaos.

So to avoid chaos in our lives, we need to be a little bit smart here.

I'm talking from personal experience.

Let us let us come to that place and say, okay, I asked permission for the highest good.

May I receive a download of this energy.

And we ask also that we can also ask that this energy have a healing effect on us or all helps us to raise our vibrations so we can continue ours iritual path and evolutionary journey.

We can also create a little ritual if we have more time, because ritual is a great way to connect.

It bypasses the conditioned mind that has doubts as it do I feel or not?

So rituals and ceremonies that I have included in the book that refer back to those times.

Of course, in those times it was days and days of ritual.

Now we only have, like you know, hour, it is enough whatever we have.

So they are they are designed for our life now, but they have a great effect.

And I've practiced these teachings for a long time, you know, since two thousand and six.

I've been practicing and teaching this path because Isis told me, she gave me, you know, the first bit of this of this teaching, and she said, go and teach it.

Speaker 2

Now.

Speaker 1

I was so scared, but people found me in their dreams and and I wasn't advertising or saying anything then, but people were coming to my door saying I was told to come and find you.

And after three people did that, I thought I better do it, you know, I said yes, I better do it.

No joy, no choice, no choice.

Speaker 2

You incarnated for a reason.

You're here physically for a reason.

Speaker 1

I didn't know the reason before, but once I said yes twice, it's now, it's now obvious.

But I have folders and folders and folders of all these teachings.

It's very rich, very profound teaching, and and I share it with people who wish to walk this spiritual path, and I find it helpful.

So it's it's the path of the ancient initiate that it's given me for our times now.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the books called Sacred Mysticism of Egypt.

My guest today has been for Tuna, a dreamy, and I want to mention in the book there is a lot of her own personal discovery, but she's got lessons and initiative, initiatory types of practices.

Can you give us a couple of case studies of perhaps students who have worked with your material and who have had either their own visions or miraculous healings or whatever.

I just love to hear a couple of case studies that you can remember about working with you.

Speaker 1

So and very easy way to connect with the material and to fill the energy is on Wednesdays.

My other business partner in the Icy School of Holistic Health and I we do a free transmission of the energy.

People send us in an email saying I want to take part in the transmission.

They make themselves comfortable, they can meditate, they can lie down the fuck and fall asleep, whatever they wish, and they receive the energy.

And we don't know many of these people.

We never heard of them.

They just email us, and so we never know who is taking part.

And some people we do, but a lot of people we don't.

And we get emails from people that are really touching.

They are really touching our hearts.

I'm not saying that happens to everybody, because illness is also a journey.

But we had an email from somebody who was terminal and she she basically had done all the medical interventions that will just look like nothing left.

And somebody told her about the transmission and she just said, you know.

The person said, oh, you might just help you relax.

It's just bathing in the light.

And this person kept taking part in these transmissions and then she sent us an email she said, I don't my condition has in is now I'm told this in remission.

I am fully well again, and I have done nothing else that I can put my finger on that said this.

You know, medication helped all this because they basically she was told there's nothing more can be done.

So when something like that happens, it really touches my heart.

And I thought, you know, this is somebody.

I have no idea where that person is.

And she then stopped taking part because that was here, that's what's hearing.

And I have no idea who they are.

And there are some this is just somebody I don't even know.

But there are also people who have been working with us for years.

And these people who came because again something brought them.

I remember one person saying that they had gone into spiritual training.

I think they were learning another energy system.

And they kept hearing the world is said, is said, but they didn't know what that meant.

And then they at the time, you know, it was our course was is the spiritual path of vices.

For some reason, they said maybe I will do this course.

And then when I shared in the course that the ancient Egyptian name of Vices is said, they were saying, no way, no way.

This was the I know I'm in the right place, because this is what I was hearing those those times.

And when you hear that, you think, oh my goodness.

They extend that these spirit guys, that these divine beings go to actually bring us together.

You know, but our mind can stop us so many times.

But the extent the work that goes behind behind the scenes for for for us to come together.

And I see the people who are practicing the teachings, how they change.

You know, It's like people come with all sorts of problems or issues or they don't know they heavy issues because there's a catastis happening, so everything's revealed.

The ego comes up.

It's not always beautiful.

There are some things that are quite hurtful, et cetera.

But we get so many, you know, emails from people saying, look, I never spoke about that.

I was able to speak to the class because something really made me feel so safe, may feel at home.

And how these people change their lives that there's nothing stopping them.

Then it's like, you know, after years they have this belief distrust in life.

Before they felt I don't know what I'm doing here in this world.

I don't feel I should be on the earth you know, it was a mistake that I was born here and after practicing the teachings and the energy and the power comes and activates these sole lessons that is, waiting to live, waiting to be here, waiting to embrace life.

Then there is a gradual, step by step, you know, evolution.

And I see that and it really touches my heart to see people really evolve and coming that high.

Speaker 2

Do you have soul activations in your book, Tula?

I mean, I haven't read all the way through, but that's a pretty big deal.

If you do a meditation where someone reaches in and actually, and I mean some people might live their whole life and go, I don't know what my purpose is, but you hope at some point they figure it out.

But do you actually show have that in your book or is that more of the mystery school that you are co.

Speaker 1

You know, you know, it just depends where everybody is.

Somebody reads one of the place in the book the Passages, I talked about the car and meeting your multi dimensional self and meeting your car, and somebody wrote to me and said exactly that that I had this sole activation with my whole body was buzzing.

I was just you know, she gave me all this, you know email, how excited this person was that finally she understood herself who she is.

But that was somebody who had done a lot of work.

You know.

Somebody could read that same thing and might not get there.

So the practices meet us where we are, and I have no idea what they will give to each person.

So these practices are really step by step in our journey, but depends where we are in our journey.

But they are very deep, so I think they work.

They go very very deeply.

If people do them.

As a hard things to do spiritual practice, everything stops us from doing that, we never have time for it.

But if people actually do them, I think they will gain a great benefit.

And I say that as somebody who also has you know, I have to kind of make that decision that I'm going to meditate.

It's a bit of a struggle for me too, after all these years made dating.

Yeah, yeah, even after a tepic you know, there is that conditioning says, oh no, you have other things to do.

But I know I have to do my meditation.

And it's always at the end of the day that I know I have to meditate.

Before I go to bed because that day is over sort of things.

So I know, we're all human, we're all we're all in this journey.

There's never any judgment.

But my friend with the partner of the of the Icy School of Holistic Health, she has been meditating for you know, over thirty five years, and she is just incredible because she loves to meditate.

She cannot you know, she wakes up and the first thing is that, like, you have to meditate.

If we have a busy day, See, we'll wake up in the middle of the night to make sure meditates.

Yeah, the highlight of her life.

And I think that's so rare.

That's so rare.

But I'm not like that.

I need to push myself to meditate.

But when I do, oh my goodness, because the energy is so deep, it's so profound, it's so powerful.

It really is amazing.

Speaker 2

I agree.

Yeah, I've been meditating about twenty five years.

So so the book just came out August first, so you can get it in Amazon.

Where else can people learn about you?

Give us your website and if you're on social media, give us that material as well.

Speaker 1

So, yes, the website has so much The Icy School of Realistic Health dot com.

So you'll find webinars that we do once a month for introduction to the ancient Egyptian mysteries.

You will find our program there for the initiations and for also the Path of the Initiate which is a lot more involved.

And there is also the Shamanic site.

There's all sorts of retreats that we do.

It's very very rich.

And there's a newsletter that goes out every month with the channelings from me by with through God, the sizs.

It comes through and it gives me all these words that I share about our times now and all the things that we do also are in the newsletter.

And yeah, I'm on Facebook.

There's a group Spiritual Awakening that is there people if people want to join the group, and my name if you put for Tula Dreaming, I'm there or for Tula Dreaming.

Saman is in Instagram and the podcast yet not not podcast.

What do you call it?

Substock?

Speaker 2

Substock substock writing?

Speaker 1

Okay, so I write, I write also in substock and I share things in substock.

Speaker 2

How many times a year do you go to Egypt or like once every other year?

Because I mean from Scotland.

It shouldn't take more than like five hours to get there.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think it's about five six hours six hours.

Speaker 2

From sub too bad.

Speaker 1

No, No, it's nothing compared to the States.

So so I the way I go to Egypt is I don't go every year or every other year.

I go whenever I'm invited by God.

The size it comes and she says, you know you like she gives me this dream and she says, now it's the time to go to Egypt.

So I haven't had this dream for a while.

I love to go.

I would go and you know, tomorrow if the dream came, but I have a feeling it might be twenty twenty seven the next one.

But I haven't had the dream yet, so I can't from it.

Speaker 2

I have ever dream yet.

When you're called to go to Egypt, do you get kind of an idea where you're supposed to visit?

Like itinerary, Like you got to go here and here and hear everything everything.

Speaker 1

Wow, the dream is very detailed.

Everything she says you have to go.

You have to start from this side.

So the last time we started from Laxar, before we had had you know, the previous pilgrimmers, we started from the pyramids.

This time we started from Lasar, we went down to us one that went up to the den there, stayed in Abidos for two nights, and then we went to Cairo then.

So it's it's it might be the similar or very different.

No other times it took us to a symbol, had to go to a blue symbol and stay there as well, which was quite different too because in abus symbol, of course the temple is not in his proper place, but the energy is still there, is still there.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I I have a feeling that the Abu Simbel was not built by the pharaohs.

I think it's much earlier, the earlier period, perhaps zep TEPI or even earlier, just because they don't have the skill level to create that size.

And it's funny because we know now that a lot of these pharaohs took these amazing sculptures and temples and even the pyramids and claimed them for themselves.

You know, they had massive egos.

But you know, even though the Egyptologists know this, they still kind of go along and go, well, that's Ramsey's a second, you know he did that.

Anyhow, Hey, a real pleasure having you on the on the program for Tula, and thank you very much and hopefully we'll have you again.

Speaker 1

Thank you so much, Cliff, Thank you so much for inviting me.

It was a real pleasure, up several pleasure to speak to you and share with everybody what is in my heart.

And in the book.

The book is very good, just a transmission of light.

And thank you so much, and I would love to come back anytime.

Thank you.

Speaker 2

Botula has a number of examples in her book of students who are tapping that zep Teppe period, and some of them are describing really a miraculous period, almost to the level that the Pupa Vu.

The Maya Book of Ancestors talks about where we're talking advanced humans and psychic abilities, what we call paranormal aarabilities.

We can see way way beyond your physical presence, you can buy, locate, you can communicate, and she talked about telepathy.

That's also a big one in the Mayan early culture.

So this also rings true of Setia and Treta Yuga, those early periods where we're supermen and women and we are doing what we want.

And she didn't say manifesting at will, but she did imply creating creating at will.

So that's almost the same thing.

Now, I didn't get into a lot of the technical details because that's not what Destiny's all about, but I would have liked to, and I didn't read the whole book, but I would like to know more about the time periods zep Tippip tippy.

Is it one hundred thousand years ago?

Is it fifty thousand years ago?

She does implicate at Atlantis is a major influence in this early period of Deep Teppi.

In fact, there's major chapters on Atlantis in her book Sacred Mysticism of Egypt.

So I mean it's a consideration to purchase the book.

The other thing is if you were influenced in her In the interview on her suggestions of taking her course, her coursework sounds like it's pretty effective, but of course you have to check it out, so go to her website and you can see more about it.

So that's fascinating.

That's that's a perfect fit for Destiny.

A lot of you, I'd get hate mail from you if I had that on Earth Agents, but see Destiny is a little sister for Earth Agents.

It's a perfect fit.

And for many of you who are not into the paranormal, human potential movement, sacred geometry and things like that.

And you don't really like Destiny, well, don't listen.

Don't listen, because I like that kind of stuff.

You gotta remember, I spent like almost a decade as a program director here in beautiful San Francisco, California, where there is a lot of theory and a lot of spirituality put into practice.

It's kind of a testing ground, kind of a Petri dish dish for testing out weird and unique concepts.

Some of them manifest and so there you go.

That's why Destiny is fun for me, and I hope it's interesting for you as well.

Hey, I want to remind you we have a tour coming up first of the year.

It's our Semmathaniel Earth Ancients Grand Egyptian Tour April twenty eighth through May tenth.

It is going to be a fabulous tour.

You know, we're talking about these magnet inficent sculptures.

I have requested and verified that we go see some of the largest, if not the largest, standing free sculptures in the world.

Again, we're gonna have Chris done on the program in a few weeks to highlight these magnignificent sculptures and also really put to the test the belief that Ramsey is second in the Faronic period, that he's the Old Kingdom were producing these sculptures.

They didn't have the technology.

And again the more I look at these buildings, pyramids and sculptures and stone cutting being that would be obelisks, I don't think anything came from the Faranic period.

I think it was all prior to their appearing on the planet.

So anyhow, check that out.

The tour is again in the twenty eighth of April through May ten.

It's gonna be fabulous.

Our tours are half the typical price.

The more most tours are about ten to twelve thousand dollars or half that much covers everything for the full eight terrory.

Go to earth Agents dot com forward slash tours, look for the banner, click it and if you have some questions to me, an email Hey Cliff, what's going on here?

Tell me more.

I'll get back to you.

And to do that, go to earth Agents is the number four of the letter.

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Come on and join us, all right, that's it for this show.

I want to thank my guest today Fotula Drimi, coming to us from Scotland as always, the team of Gael tor Mark Foster and Feya, our video expert in Pakistan.

Hey, that reminds me we are on YouTube now.

You can see all the Destiny videos see my I guess, see all the graphics and charts and stuff like that.

Just go to YouTube and punch Destiny and you'll see it.

You guys rock all right, take care of you well and we will talk to you next time.

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