Former NBA player and All the Smoke host Matt Barnes joins Joy Taylor on Two Personal for a raw, honest, and emotional conversation about fatherhood, controversy, media narratives, and what it means to be a “villain” in today’s NBA — especially when you're not one in real life.

 Topics discussed:

• Why Angel Reese vs Caitlin Clark isn’t a rivalry — it’s a storyline built by contrast

• How social media and fake outrage culture destroy nuance

• Raising young men in today’s internet-fueled chaos

• The burden of being hated for being visible

• Why LeBron James is the greatest superstar in sports history

• The loss of real rivalries in the NBA

• And the myth of separating sports from politics

Matt opens up about what it’s like to be misunderstood, parenting in the public eye, and the emotional toll of being labeled a villain when you’re just trying to live right.

 This is one of the most important conversations you’ll hear all year — it’s funny, emotional, real, and unapologetic.

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