This can you stop tapping your mic?

We already did.

We already did sound check before we started recording.

OK, real this week's Traders at one point I was like, I was sweating.

I was I was trembling, trembling with anxiety.

You know that.

I don't know if you said that give up somebody sitting like this.

Patreon exclusive Patreon exclusive anxiety.

That's how I was sitting in my bed watching a Traders on Thursday night.

I watched it live.

As as it came on.

Yeah.

I was also very anxious watching this show.

Luckily I was doing about 70 on the Garden State Parkway so I had to focus on the road, which is why I likely didn't sweat, but like I was.

What's going on, on both fronts?

Could you imagine like if you got pulled over and they're like, what's wrong?

What's go?

You're, you seem really tense and you're like, I, I don't know which way Rob is going to vote.

Alan had to cut in and tell Rob we need a vote now.

Do you understand is they're dragging me out and I'm still watching it?

It's not funny anyway.

Listen, we're Let's talk about traders this week by we have some new listeners.

I was in Texas this weekend and I did convince my husband's niece to start listening, watching traders and then listening to it.

So I'm going to give a shout out to little baby Rania.

It's.

Little baby Rania.

How little baby is little baby Rania?

Like what's her age?

22.

Oh, so we can say fucking shit and piss, yeah.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Anyway.

So I'm Rania.

Anyway, we open this episode on breakfast with Maura, Kristen and Rob and somebody said this is like expert.

This would be like the hardest F marry kill to look at.

Wait, who is it?

Maura, Kristen Kish and Rob R.

No, I'm I'm out.

Kill me.

That's that's the answer.

To that I would die.

I would die.

I would like to see all three of them F&M and then I would be the one to K myself.

You know what, like I understand you have to say the M part because Rania is listening.

I say just do the F part man.

Anyway, also Rob is in the most clothes we've ever seen.

He comes in in like a flannel outfit and like a bitch.

That's not a fuck shadow.

Yeah, because you go all right, like I I get this guy, he's kind of like a fuck boy.

He's always showing his arms off or whatever his tattoo and he comes in like a nor me and he go, hey, I was I, I can't be attracted to these many versions of you.

This is not OK.

Yeah, you dress like a norm and you go, well, I don't understand.

I'm still horny.

What happened?

What?

Happened here.

What's going on?

You are wearing something at from Target and I'm still into you.

I do not understand this.

I don't get it.

OK, but more importantly, salmon, They talk about the salmon plates.

We've been, I've been writing it in my notes for two weeks and I keep forgetting to bring it up.

Now, you're obviously not a salmon person allergic to seafood.

Allergic to shellfish but I use that as an excuse to get out of all seafood.

Because I will.

Seafood.

I will say as even though I am a seafood eater, I was never into smoked salmon until just a month ago.

Oh, what happened a month ago?

A month ago for it's like around Christmas, yeah, it was Christmas.

My sister in law's parents came over with locks and like a sauce and crackers and it was just like, I don't know what it was.

It was like it was just there.

The sauce that came with it was just like fresh dill, a little bit of lemon juice and Creme fresh.

And there's just some really good quality locks with lot of dill on top with some crackers.

And I was like, this is so good.

It was actually so good.

Now, I do understand that these are reality TV people.

They're very conscious of what they look like.

I think that salmon might be the only thing on the table with protein in it besides the eggs.

You're muted.

Sorry, You think that's the thing?

Like I think you think it's a health thing.

I think it's a like a deliciousness thing.

Now, obviously, like you said, I am not a seafood person myself.

Conceptually though, right.

When I think about lox, like when I think of like a bagel, like a toasted bagel with cream cheese and lox and like smoked salmon, whatever, right.

Conceptually, it makes sense to me.

I understand Like how you would why you would why?

Yeah, exactly.

The mouthfeel even like the taste feel like what's going on here like with the cream cheese is like giving you whatever.

It's just the like the taste of the seafood that I don't that I don't understand.

But the question is why is the salmon so limited?

Why can't they?

What's the budget Peacock like?

Are we spending all of our money on Alan's wardrobe and now they can't have any salmon?

Like why are there only two plates of salmon?

Yeah, exactly.

Like I wonder because salmon is, I'm assuming these are slices, right?

Yeah.

So I would assume what's happening is that they are at the very least making a slice per person.

Yeah.

Do you think some, like the people that get in early, are doubling up?

No, but I don't think, OK, first of all, one slice of smoked salmon per, I have no idea.

It's not enough.

A salmon is in my culture, so I don't know how to talk about it.

If they're not allotting at least four to five pieces of salmon per person on that cast, that is not.

That is not.

It's very thin.

It's so thin.

It's like it's like thin pieces of fish but isn't.

It intense.

Don't you just need like a sliver of it?

No, it's barely there.

I feel like we need more, and maybe I'm just saying that because I'm a big fat pig person, but I think 4 to 5 pieces of salmon, Thinly sliced smoked salmon, women per cast member should be enough.

Now I recognize there might be some vegetarians on the cast, maybe some people like you who just don't like fish, some people who are allergic, I understand.

But I do believe that there is somebody on the cast who is eating too much of it.

Same.

Yeah.

You said four to five pieces per cast member.

Are you imagining one bagel?

Like what is the four to five pieces?

Or are you making maybe 2 bagels out of it?

Maybe?

I don't think they're having bagels, I don't think they have bagels in Scotland.

OK, so they're just eating the you.

Just I think they're having it over toast.

OK.

All right.

But I know that that I don't.

I don't see any bacon on the table, so I don't know if there's any other protein besides like boiled eggs maybe.

And apparently this is the breakfast.

I don't think they get fed at the Howard Johnson before they get here.

I'm sure the.

Continental breakfast though, right?

Like I'm sure they can get like the free coffee.

But again, it's just like carbs and I think they're like jonesing for some protein and this is like all they're going to get.

And they're like, but also I would be like Uber Eats exists.

Like you guys can Uber Eats yourself some like, you know, Mcgriddles or whatever.

I need to read somebody's in depth blog post about how Trump's tariffs have affected the salmon supply in Scotland, which is the reason why they can't get to the salmon I.

Think it has to be that.

It has to be that anyway.

I feel like people care more about their who is, if there is salmon on the table, then who actually made it out of murder.

I think that's what it feels like.

But we also don't know if anybody died because we don't know who took Shields or not.

But alas, hurrah, huzzah, everybody made it.

Everyone's there.

And we go back to the night before last night at the turret and Allen's like, guess what, these fucking faithfuls, they nobody, nobody, nobody took a shield.

So no murder tonight.

And the girl, the girls and Ron are like, OK, let's find, let's just come up with what we want to do.

And they're thinking banishment.

We're going to banish Ron.

Let's go with the group.

It looks like everybody wants to go against Ron and murder.

We got a, we got a murder Colton.

Cause Colton's fucking annoying and he's saying his name.

So it's like, fine.

Then Alan shows up and he's like, there's going to be a mission and it's going to be creepy.

But Alan's hair, Now this came up a while ago and I didn't get to talk about it, but on the very first like bunch of episodes, the first dump, there was that one outfit that Alan had on where he looked a little bit like a Canary.

Like his hair was like red and pointy, and then he had like a full yellow outfit.

Now the hair came back this episode and it looked like remember anger from inside out, like his hair is on fire.

He kind of look like that.

I was just like, I don't know what's going on.

If this is the reason why there's not no smoked salmon, we're in trouble.

But anyway, at the table, Colton's like Dorinda, you should observe Lisa Rinna and Lisa Rinna is like just being Lisa Rinna.

I guess there is a whole bunch of pre mission chatter and they still think it's Ron because of his behavior.

Now I have to pause Yuri Hill because Ron Funcha's We Actually Found Out This Week is autistic.

Oh my.

God.

Yo, it feels like that should have been told to us and also like.

So he has he actually has a child on the spectrum.

And he said, you know, for a long time I thought like I was just an ally.

Like he talked about it and he was like, I thought it was just an ally.

But like, actually I realized that there was a lot of things that my my kids did that I also do.

And then, you know, it's a late in life diagnosis, but yeah, I'm also on the spectrum.

And so like, then to go from that to like Rob and Ron playing chess and fucking Rob being so fucking sweet to Ron and being like, you know, Ron's just an introvert.

And sometimes the most like intense pressure, the hardest places in a a person for a person like that is a room full of people.

It can be like the loneliest Rob.

Your job is supposed to be snakes, you son of a bitch.

How are you?

Diagnosing people with so much grace and empathy.

Fuck you.

Oh.

My God.

That was actually so like watching that scene, it's fucked up.

It's, I mean, it's, I don't know if it's fucked up, but, or if it's just stupid, but like watching that scene in the middle of this stupid, silly show with which just makes me laugh or what?

It was actually like very sweet.

And it was sweet for both of them actually.

Like I felt good for Ron in that moment.

Because like the last three episodes I have seen somebody who is just like, it's not even like, you know, it's, it doesn't even feel like it's about the show.

It's just him, like trying to like figure out how to exist in this environment and be himself.

And it's like the student's a comedian, you know what I mean?

Like, so he's used to bringing people joy and it's just like, it was tough to watch him kind of like struggle with how to present himself in front of all these people and like, feel like he's cornered or whatever.

So seeing him have that little bit of space with just another person and just have a really good time.

And then you go, dude, Rob, come on man, Give me something to hate about you.

And then also, well, he does later, but Rob R also like just him being like, does my name come up?

Everybody just thinks I'm a stupid, a dumb guy from Alabama.

And I was like, God, you're so hot.

I can't deal with it.

Also, I think, like, what you just said is so interesting.

And like, here I am like psychoanalyzing.

Ron Funcha is like a famously famous person, right?

But like him, him being a comedian.

And if, like your comedian and your job is to make people laugh and then you get into a situation where people are actually displeased by you, like, they don't know how to function around you.

That has to be so fucking frustrating to be around.

It just felt so bad for him.

And just like, like, you know, like Doctor Rob says, it's got it's, it's got to be so lonely because he's like, I'm sure Ron has been a famous person for a while now.

Yeah.

That's how he when he comes into a room or whatever people are, you know, they have joy.

Like he brings him happy or so.

Yeah, I'm, I'm glad that that they showed that for for both of them.

It was lovely.

It was lovely.

Now we have like the inklings of like the Faithful 8, which is sort of like Mark Ballas, Maura, Tara Lipinski, Johnny Weir, Kristen, and they're trying to pull in like Steven Coletti and Eric and Candace and Rob.

And I think it's so cute that they nobody thinks about Candace or Rob as being traitors.

I think that that is amazing.

Colton at this point talks to Natalie about Lisa.

Colton is doing a lot of like, Big Brother whispering, which I fucking hate.

Natalie, keep an eye on Lisa.

OK, Shut up.

Just speak like a normal person.

You're so annoying anyway.

But what he does does bring up is I'm going to toss Lisa's name around, and I want to see who's defending her, because if somebody is defending her, then that means that they're probably also a traitor.

And I was like, OK, all right, Colton, I'm not going to lie.

You did eat with that one, but you're so fucking annoying.

Then we have the mission and it's, you know, at this big whatever, at this cabin that we're back at the cabin.

But on the way to the cabin, Colton's in a car with Tara Lipinski.

Dorinda and Rob are.

And that's where he says, guys, if I die, it's Lisa, right?

If I die tomorrow, it's Lisa.

I was like, oh, and then he's like, Rob, what do you think?

And Rob's like, I mean, it's possible, like anything is.

He's like, it's plausible.

And I was like, you know that word, Rob?

Commiserate and possible.

Shut up, Rob.

Good.

Anyway, they get to this cabin.

I I'll be honest with you, I didn't really.

And I don't I don't pay attention to the rules of the game.

I don't pay attention to the rules of the game.

I'm just looking at what's happening.

But everybody agrees that nobody's going to take a shield.

And I like Natalie because Natalie's like, if you take a shield, we're just going to banish you.

You're not a team player.

Fuck you.

Now what do you think about that?

No, I think that's fine.

I had the reason why I raised my hand was because I wanted to make sure that I didn't forget about to talk about Natalie's outfit, which was amazing.

It looked like she was living Tron.

Yeah, like these things.

It was like the first time, and then I was like, and then they changed for the mission and I was like, maybe I missed that outfit.

But then they came back and she had it on again.

Anyways, I agree with that.

I, I think that that's a Safeway to do it.

Or just be like, hey, you know what?

If you are a traitor, you're gonna go for the shield, right?

Or we'll ban your shield.

Yeah, Now Natalie's outfit, which a great thing, you brought it up this week.

We had the He Man Masters of the Universe trailer come out and Natalie's outfit was very Shira, wasn't it?

It was so Shira.

It was like that little I was, I was, I was like that.

You have to have a sick body to be walking around in that absurd outfit.

Incredible body.

Yeah, that's where to think.

I think somebody else asks, is like, thanked us for pointing her, for pointing out her, her guns or whatever.

It's not us, it's her.

It's all there, man.

It's amazing.

Incredible, she goes.

She lives in New Jersey and probably hits up an Equinox in Edgewater if you want to switch up your gym routine.

Unfortunately, I'm more of an LA Fitness type of person.

I'm $30.00 a month type of person.

I've seen lifetime.

My brother has lifetime.

I'm like.

And I'm too, and I'm too cheap and lazy to do either of those.

Every day I tell myself maybe I'll just do squats after I eat and I don't.

Anyway, there's no Shields taken at the end.

It's Eric, Robin, Ron.

They're the last three.

Somebody did did point out that that very first clue was supposed to be like Louise Black, but they thought Louise Clark.

And then someone on the Internet said like Colton kept Bryant yelling black black.

And they were like, I don't like Colton saying black like that.

He just pisses me off now, just from like a logistics perspective.

The very first thing was like the, you know, a magnet on top, like moving around.

Yeah, there are people inside of the underneath the table, like the staff.

Imagine getting kicked in the face by fucking Dorinda because you got scared of like make believe blood.

Well, So what I was more concerned about was like, you know, like the hands coming out of the grave, right?

Yeah.

These were real hands, right?

Those were people.

Or yeah.

So where's that person standing?

I think that there's a grave underneath and they're standing under it, yeah.

They probably just, yeah.

That's gotta suck.

Yeah, do.

You think they got paid well?

I don't know.

Should I?

Do you think they got paid in salmon?

Is that where salmon's going?

That's where the salmon is going anyway, the guy.

Underneath the grave's just jumping away at salmon got a whole bucket.

Anyway, at the end, there's no Shields taken, so somebody is going to be murdered.

But this is where Rob says it's not looking good for Robbie Bobby.

And I was like Robbie Bobby.

It reminded me of in Friends when he's Rachel's dad is like his name is Doctor Bobby, Doctor Robbie Bobby.

Robert Bobby.

Yeah.

Anyway, Rob doesn't want to vote for Ron, basically.

Look, that's what it is at the end because it's Eric, Rob and Ron at the end who are left.

And, you know, everybody's made their way back to the castle and Rob just feels bad for Ron.

He doesn't want to do it.

It's dinner time and yes.

How do you feel about that or are we going to get into that later when we talk about his vote?

We have to get into it later because from a from a we'll talk about it.

OK, It's dinner time.

It's dinner time.

And Johnny and Mark have a they whisper and they want to go Colton and they've sort of tried to gather the fateful 8.

And Rob tells Candace and Lisa that he does not want to vote for Ron.

And this is where I wrote Why am I trembling with anxiety?

And I think I do wonder if I should be honest with myself here because I wonder if some of that trembling was not anxiety.

And just like Rob are making me tremble from the television at one point, Dorinda's like, this is my trader's husband.

I was like, Dorinda, back off Colton.

This is when Colton says he's going to do a big move.

He's going to take Lisa into the billiards room.

And he says something which I thought was so crazy, considering everything that we've learned about Colton in the last few weeks of him being on the show.

He says I'm going to hold Lisa Rinna hostage.

Oh, he'd said that.

Now as a stalker I don't know if that's like the best thing to say.

Like that to me feels like maybe better, better words.

But what I loved in this interaction is like, Lisa Rinna's too fucking cool for this dork.

Like he's like, I'm gonna go with the all the way to the end with you.

First of all, he says I wouldn't go all the way to the end with you.

I'll save you if you save me from the round table.

No, I'll save you at the round table if you save me at the turret.

Right.

But I'm like.

And then but like also that's not how the fucking game works you idiot.

If you think she's a traitor and then you make it to the end.

She gets the money.

Like like what?

It's not doing what you think it is.

And I just love Lisa being like what the fuck?

Here's the thing about cold like this is that line or whatever reminded me of like the.

You muted make yourself my accident.

Sorry, it reminded me of the time that he came after Tiffany, like in the in the at the round table.

You can tell that he had rehearsed that line himself so many times in the mirror.

He's like, oh, this is going to be a moment.

And Lisa Rinna's like, fuck you, dude.

Like you just got on TV, you know who I am.

I'm Lisa fucking Rinna, like what are you doing?

So then they get to the round table and it's very quiet and I love Ron because he's like, so are we just going to should we just start writing our names?

Let's just write my name down.

Let's say he's like, we got to use the time, but whatever.

And then Mark talks about Ron and Mark Ballas.

He's like, look, Ron, I'm not sure it's a Porsche vote that's throwing everybody off, but I loved Ron and how he defended himself in this.

He was like, so wait, hold on.

He was like, you guys are mad at me about Porsche, but Colton's done more accusations than I have.

And he's like, you did Donna.

I mean, he's like you did, you did Michael and you did Tiffany and you did Porsche.

But we don't count Michael because we don't like Michael, but because we love Porsche.

We're still on me.

I don't think that that's fair.

And Colton really can't defend himself because ultimately what they end up saying is, well, we need to kick you out so that we get more information.

And Ron's like, that doesn't seem fair.

Then Ron says, well, you guys are going to vote me out anyway.

I'd rather use the time right now to go around and tell everybody why I love you.

And I was like, wow, this is amazing.

I was kicking and screaming.

And as he's going around and saying goodbye to everybody, Tara Lipinski says, guys, can I just say something?

Ron's not a traitor.

What are we doing?

Ron is not a traitor.

And everyone's like, yeah, Ron, we know you're not a traitor.

We're just gonna kind of banish you because it feels like we have nothing else to do.

And then Colton says he thinks it's Lisa.

And his reasoning is because she's Lisa Rinna, she's a housewife.

And he doesn't like the fact that she voted against Portia because housewives are supposed to stick together.

You know, Lisa is not one to spar with.

And I was.

You're not fucking with Lisa Rinna here.

But then when we go around doing the votes, we have a few people for Colton, we have a few people for Ron, and then Rob is basically like one of the last votes, right?

Or he starts to, yeah.

He's the last vote.

And he's he's one of the last votes.

He's one of the last votes.

But then Rob votes for Lisa, which I was like, Oh my God, Rob, what are you doing?

And then we do see ultimately that Ron is voted out.

And it just I here's the thing, if you're going to vote anybody out, maybe you vote out Eric.

Like Eric is the one that came with data his pitch against Tiffany.

Like, why are we not talking about Eric?

Why are we voting against Ron?

I don't love it.

And I just think that Ron Fun just deserves the entire world.

He doesn't deserve these people.

Fuck, fuck these people.

I'll talk about the raw boat in a second.

But since then, Ron has been online and one of the things that came because he had like a weird interaction with Dorinda where he was like, I don't think that you and I can engage in a respectful way.

Really.

Ron Funchess is now saying, like in the show, he was like during a you and I cannot communicate in a in a respectful way, right or productive way or something.

But it turns out he said later like, oh, Dorinda is a monster.

He was like, I'm going to talk about it at the reunion.

Dorinda is not a good person.

He's like we had a few interactions where she's just like not she's not.

He was like she said some shit that was so crazy.

Like, I can't even, I can't talk to her.

And he's he's going to go scorched earth against her.

And that and it makes me really happy because last season, Dorinda was absolutely nuts.

And she proved herself to be nuts.

And then they brought her back the season and gave her, you know, a standing ovation when she, like, survived.

And I just love that she has no idea what's going to happen to her at the reunion.

Yeah.

I think what it makes me think about is I don't know, like I hope that the producers kind of take notes from like, I, I mean, I obviously I don't know what Ron is gonna say, but the fact that Dorinda is a monster.

As somebody that has just kind of only seen the stuff that you have forced me to watch, you've helped me, forced me to watch.

That's right.

That does that does not surprise me.

Also the things that you've told me about her, that does not surprise me, right.

I remember her at at the reunion again, just trying to make it about herself or whatever.

And it's like, yeah, OK, I can see why that is a maybe compelling TV or whatever, but it doesn't seem like that's maybe maybe the type of person that you should keep inviting on and keep giving a platform to, right?

I think that I hope they learn the fucking lesson from having Michael Rapaport on.

Exactly.

It hey, like you don't have to, you don't have to resort to these kind of casting choices or whatever.

Yeah, he said, wait, let me just read you what he says.

If somebody said during those comments about Ron Funchess play how Ron Funchess plays, the game hits harder knowing that Ron has autism.

Kind of another example of how unconscious biases run rampant on reality TV and Ron said oh she has conscious bias.

She said some truly terrible things to me, but since they were deeply personal and outside of gameplay they were never shown just me blowing up at her out of nowhere.

Really.

Yeah, that's actually like fucked up.

Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, let's talk about the Rob boat.

Rob votes for Lisa because he doesn't he Colton trusts him and he loves Ron.

Now a little something you should know about Rob R from Love Island is he was in a deep, deep bromance with a guy who actually won.

I forgot his name Eric.

No Alan Alex.

I forgot the name of the guy.

I honestly, this is what happens when you're 40.

The guy who he was in a deep romance with, he what the fuck was his name, Aaron Aaron.

He was in a deep bromance with Aaron on Love Island and Aaron actually won traders a few years ago.

He was on the UK version, UK celebrity version of traders and Aaron won traders.

But anyway, Rob had a deep bromance with Aaron and you know how like the whole show Love Island is supposed to be like people coupling up or whatever and then like when your girlfriend gets sent home, you get sad, whatever, it didn't matter.

Rob was pro bromance and so like Rob then being like really torn between like voting for his friends versus voting against Lisa, I thought was like really telling into who Rob is.

Like we've already seen this person established on television.

But at the same time, from a gameplay perspective, I thought it was absolutely the right thing to do.

Like, yes, he should have voted for Lisa.

That was the smart thing to do.

He said it himself, like if I go against you, if I go against Colton, that doesn't look good for me.

Yeah, exactly.

Person who's an asshole, I'm not trustworthy that doesn't like traitors at the end of the day is an individual game.

That is how the game works.

Like unless you're faithful I guess.

But like it's an individual game.

A traitor does turn on themselves but I thought it was great because it puts him in a place of safety.

But also like Candace was in a great place cuz Candace is like, I'm gonna continue to vote for Ron.

I voted for Ron every single week.

I'm consistent.

And Ron even says thank you for your consistency, right?

What I like about what happened between Lisa and Colton is let's say they banish Lisa and they find out Lisa is a traitor.

The traitors should keep Colton alive because let's say Lisa gets banished.

They're gonna assume that Colton is also a traitor because that little fight at the round table looks like traitor on traitor violence.

Yep, exactly.

So I thought it was overall really great.

Like Ron Colton said whispers to her like something like if you I'm I'm gonna take my, I'm gonna take myself out or something.

Like, what did he say?

Oh, he said I'll take us both down to get you out.

Why would you do that?

What's the point?

Yeah.

That's stupid anyway.

Here's what I'll say about the Rob boat.

I when he was talking about I didn't.

I don't want to send Ron home.

I don't want to write Ron's name, Right.

I like, again, I don't know how much I'm being manipulated by the editing because I had seen that chess scene or whatever.

I don't know how much I'm being manipulated by my own hormones.

You know what I mean?

I don't know how much I want to buy this.

But like, I get that.

He's like, hey, like, first of all, he knows that Ron is a faithful, obviously as a trader himself.

Yeah.

And like, the way that he explained how he sees Ron as, like, this person who has been, like, dealing with loneliness and that stuff, you go, yeah, man, Like, I wouldn't want to write his name down either.

Like, that's really, really sweet.

The Colton part I understand in terms of gameplay.

I think if he knew how close they were in terms of votes or whatever, he would be OK getting rid of Colton, right?

Because he then he'd say, well, I'm going with the with the room or whatever.

And then Colton is out of the picture.

He's just getting rid of another faithful or whatever.

So I understood it.

I and yeah, in terms of gameplay and all that stuff, I completely get it.

Like, I don't know if there is an or I'm sure there is an argument about him turning on another traitor because that's supposed to be, you know, like they're supposed to be a team or whatever.

But for himself, Like I see that now, like if I am a faithful at that round table, Rob is the last person on my mind.

He's already been the last person on my mind.

Because, well, he's the only person on my mind.

I wanna keep him in the castle for as long as I possibly can.

But yeah, but if I'm going and okay, well, he's somebody that can be reasoned with.

He's somebody that's looking at the evidence or whatever, so I loved it.

I thought all of it was perfectly fine.

I have no problems with it.

Amazing television, Yeah, if anything.

I like him more as a result.

I love him.

OK, so Alan announced it's a halfway.

Point It's possible.

It's possible that I'm horny.

It's a halfway point, and Alan announces that there's gonna be a banquet.

And, you know, this is like, everybody's moving around the house, whatever.

We find out that the night before, he told the traders that there's going to be a brooch amulet, an amulet that will need to be worn by one of the traders.

And the first person to touch it dies.

Right?

And Lisa Rinna's like, I'm fucking in.

OK, We'll talk about the outfit that she puts on later because it's nuts.

And then this is like everybody's milling about the house before they go get ready for the stupid banquet.

But Rob says to us, I kind of just wish I was a faithful like I.

He's.

So cute.

He's like, I like hanging out with the faithful.

Yeah, he's.

Like, I like hanging out with my friends.

Like, this kind of sucks.

And I was like, you're so cute.

He's like playing pool by himself.

Like, both of those things are really cute.

Like when he says that when he's like, I wish I was a faithful.

And then also you can tell that he's playing pool by himself because he's avoiding Lisa Rinna.

He's so scared of her, it's adorable.

He's so scared.

He goes in the kitchen and Candace is there.

Candace just starts pelting him with candy.

She's like, what are you doing?

And I let this is what at least everyone has iconic.

She walks in the room and she just points at him.

Yeah, she points at him.

And I was like, oh, oh, God, I would love.

It was so good.

But I do get what he said.

He was like, guys, I was in a situation like where what was?

And I think they did understand where Prop was coming from like once he said it.

But she also, we also have this moment where Lisa is in the, they're in the, the, the bar room, I guess, and at the bar.

And Lisa is like Colton, I just want to tell you something.

I'm so much more than a housewife.

I was a housewife for like 3 years.

Like I was a housewife for like, you know, five years, three years ago.

But I was Lisa fucking Rinna before the housewives and I'm Lisa fucking Rinna after.

And I was like, yeah, these stupid idiots have not seen Days of our.

She's Billy Reed from Days of our Lives.

She was on Melrose Place.

Like how do you not know Lisa?

She sold diapers for God's sake.

Like this woman is not.

She was an M&M, OK?

She interviewed, I do not remember this.

She was like an animated Eminem with like a Lisa Rinna wig at like 1 of like the Oscars promotions.

It was so stupid.

But anyway, Lisa Rinna does more stuff than housewives.

So Colton, she's like Colton.

I'm a lot more than that.

And then Colton says, I was going to say if there's any traders in the room, like just Take Me Out tonight, OK?

Cuz like, otherwise I'm never going to leave you alone.

Shut up, Colton.

What's like the, I don't know, like, again, Colton is a gay man, right?

And like, you always want to be like, oh, OK.

Like, oh, obviously you want to be respected, but I understand that.

Like, that's just a douche, right?

Yeah.

And at the end of the day, like, that's what I see.

He's just like a white douche, you know what I mean?

So yeah, that was yeah.

What are you doing?

Yeah, so somebody Lisa Rinna's been online.

OK, this is amazing.

So Lisa Rinna's been online.

She went on Instagram, she took to her stories and she was talking about it and once and she said about Rob R, she was like, the thing with Rob is like he is so good looking that people can't stare at him for too long.

So like they don't really like they don't know what to do.

Like if he's talking to you like they don't know what to do.

So like their brain just shuts off.

She's like.

He's actually so weird, said that.

Yeah.

He's like, I can't even look at him.

Can't look at him like they don't know what to do.

So he's not on anybody's radar.

She's like Candace is a master.

She does the round table.

She's like masterful in it.

And she's like with me, she's like, yeah, I don't know what Colton's problem is.

She's like, he's got to go.

He's got a lot of issues.

She's like, I don't want to deal with it.

But then she was also on threads and somebody posted this, you know, the, the, the picture of her saying let's talk about like, or Kim Richards saying, let's talk about the husbands right?

To Lisa Rinna in Amsterdam and Beast dinner and her getting mad.

So Beast.

Yeah.

So somebody said this is who Colton thinks he's slick.

He's slick up against.

Good luck, buddy.

Because she also says she's like, what do you want me to do?

Like smash a wine bottle and like flip a table?

Like I'm not gonna do that.

That's not who I am.

I'm a real person, you know?

So she posted, somebody posted that and she responded to that meme saying let's talk about you being a stalker.

I'll say this, man, I came away with so much more respect for Lisa Rinna.

Yes, this episode.

Because I obviously I do remember her as an actress.

But what I know of her recently is the housewife's stuff, right?

Yeah.

And yeah, she was, you know, as a kid, say, standing on business.

She was.

She clocked his tea.

I don't know if I'm using that correctly.

No cap.

No cap.

Oh my God, somebody said imagine if they murdered in plain sight with the salmon.

Everybody would be dead.

The whole cast would be dead now who do you think they are?

They're going to get ready for this.

I love Candace.

Candace is like so much has happened.

I'm so stressed out and I have to go put on Spanx and a stupid headdress for the stupid fucking party.

I love her.

Now who do you think they should kill?

I don't know if they can even target anybody to kill, right?

Like it's an amulet.

I like, I was trying to think of like how you get somebody to touch it.

To me, it's pretty simple.

Lisa comes down with it or whatever and then probably Candace goes, Oh my God, look at that thing and she's like touching it or whatever.

And then somebody else touches it.

That would feel like the most like the like the easiest way to do it.

Just kind of thinking how you get somebody to touch it.

That feels like a woman would touch it.

You know what I mean?

No, I don't know.

That outfit that Lisa Rinna puts on?

I don't remember it.

I'm sorry.

I was on the.

Point.

My God.

No, Raheel.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna find it and I'm gonna send it to Lisa.

Yeah, I was.

I was.

I was.

Certain outfit traders OK.

I remember it being ornate.

Ornate.

She looked like a sailor.

She was dressed like a small English boy on his way to church for oh.

There, there it is.

I see it.

The hat.

It was so absurd.

And then like, the big, the big, like, bib, the bib.

So I think, here's the thing.

I think this is what would be the best thing for them.

OK.

I think that she should target Johnny Weir, Kristen Kitsch, even though I fucking love her, or Mark Ballas because those are the people that she has to look at who voted against Colton at the round table this past round table, right?

Like it just happened there and they're going to the next thing.

So she's got to target the person who voted for against Colton 1st.

And I think the first person who voted against Colton was Johnny Weir.

I love Johnny Weir.

I think he's amazing.

Yeah, he's getting better on this show.

He was quiet for like the first five weeks, and I was a little bit disappointed because I love him on like the Olympics coverage.

Yeah, he's really come.

He's really come alive if if I'm smart and this sucks because I don't want to see her go.

Kristen's the one that you target, right, Because she has.

She was the first one that I recall saying Colton and saying his name very loudly.

Plus like whatever's happening with like the Colton versus Monet exchange thing, which is?

Very.

Oh yeah, yeah.

The insider info on that is that people who were at the castle themselves have said that off camera Monet exchange was like beloved.

Everybody loved Monet.

And so when Kristen says something happened, like I think Monet is intimidated by or Colton is intimidated by Monet, I think it's because of the interactions that happened at the cancel because Castle because I think Monet was HGIC had gay in charge.

And I think that Colton did not like that.

Every week I have to say this is so stupid.

Every week on threads I like just insult Colton.

I'm like, you know what I like today, this week I said like, you know, The thing is, I just hate Colton lol.

It's got like 1000 views.

Like why?

People just like love it.

Like why?

Like it's so stupid.

But so you know what Colton, I hope that your mental health is good, but I also know that you've terrorized women for years and gotten away with it.

So like, also fuck you.

You know you want to be careful and sensitive in all those things, right?

Yeah, sure.

Fuck that.

You just fuck that.

Guy I don't think like I don't I, you know, he's a.

Dishy waited.

He's a Dishy waited.

The way that I watch this show is a lot of times I'm just like, hey, would I want to be friends with this person?

You know what I mean?

And like Colton, of the current cast, Colton is the last person that I'd want to be friends with.

Like Eric seems like a great time.

Like Mark and by the way, Steven, Like at some point we're going to have Steven.

Clady, how about you have a fucking voice, OK?

Although that sweater looked great, like, well, again, that whole dad dad outfit on him looked fantastic.

But yeah, but I'm like, OK, I can hang out with Steven.

Colton is the one that I do not want to hang out with.

It feels like he is somebody that wants to make everything about himself.

He's also like a big birdly guy.

He knows the attention that he can attract because he looks the way that he does and all those things.

And yeah, he's just bad energy, man.

I just don't like his energy.

Yeah, the energy is sour.

I don't like it anyway.

Well, that's the end of our traders chat.

Now I do want to just quickly touch on some other housekeeping items now.

I did.

Show we'll be touching.

We'll be touching on things.

I did share, I did share your two messages that you sent me to the people and one was Peach emoji.

And you said, I see what you mean about the butt.

And that was at 11:00 PM.

And then 11 like 1150, you said I'm all in, by the way.

So it sounds to me like your heated rivalry watch is going pretty smoothly.

I've only seen that.

Listen, it is going I'm I'll tell you what's happening.

I've.

Only you're favoring it.

I understand.

I'm favoring something.

I watched the first episode on Thursday night, right?

And then yesterday I had plans to watch it but then I had to watch Traders on Parkway and then I was at a friend's house

and I got home at 2:00 AM.

So I haven't watched the 2nd episode.

Yet, Oh my God.

But I am so excited to start watching it.

When you and I were talking when I started the first episode and you know, I hope this is OK to talk about.

But like as I started watching it, it gets to the sex scene.

It was like 11:30 at night or whatever.

And at that point I was like, yo, you know what?

This is a little bit intense for me right now in this moment.

I'm like not high enough for this.

Yeah, I'm like, I, I think I need to stop watching it at night.

Like I, I right now, I'd like the show I'm gonna watch.

It gets too high.

I know I need to watch it in the daytime because at night I don't know.

I don't know what the creepy crawlies in my body are going to do.

It's really more, it's really more me afraid of myself, right?

And then I was, I was chatting with you and then I think you said something.

I said it's just.

A little fellage got a little fellage, right?

And then I went and I had a, you know, I smoked.

By the way, can we talk about how cool they make smoking look again?

OK they make smoking look amazing.

I can't wait to talk to you about how the cast is also smoking like.

I I saw a picture of the Asian dude.

At Hudson's.

Fashion show.

Yeah, at a fashion show, smoking.

And I was like, here we go, baby, let's go.

I'll say this.

I know nicotine kills.

I know it's bad.

I know it's gonna, you know, it causes cancer and all those things.

Somebody smoking a cigarette is so much cooler than somebody vaping.

Right, we can agree 100%, yes.

And so I was thinking like, because I was going to talk to you about it because you're very anti smoke because of whatever cancer, whatever.

I think as long as that butt is attached to a smoker, it is OK.

That's when you so if you want to smoke, do squats I think is the at the end of the day.

Because you know what, squats are really good for your heart health and your lungs.

So I feel like that's gotta like counterbalance.

The last time, the last time smoking looked so sexy to me was Mad Men.

Also a really hot guy like Jon Hamm made smoking look insanely hot, you know what I mean?

So I know.

Well, I can't wait for you to watch the rest.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I, I hear here's all I'll say about the first episode is because I paused it because it was like right in the middle of like the fellation scene.

It was them in the, it was them in the in the hotel room.

And then I, I thought to myself, I'm like, OK, I have watched like straight quote UN quote straight shows.

Like they remember the show with the guy from the Wire and the British lady.

I don't remember the name of the show it was their two perspectives on.

It was like the affair, the affair.

Yeah, I think it was just called The affair or whatever, right?

And I was like, well, that show had a lot of sex in it also, right?

And the sex is a part of the storyline, right?

That's right.

And so it's like, OK, it is a part of the storyline.

I it tells part of the story.

I have to figure out how I'm going to watch this stuff because I will say it's intense.

It is intense.

And it may just be intense because I'm not used to seeing it.

But I don't think you've ever seen a gay sex scene.

Like, I mean, I don't know.

I don't know what's going on in your Incognito window or whatever.

So I was like, there is information being shared through the sex and there is like, it talks about like how one guy is more aggressive than the other because he's more comfortable in his skin and like the actor.

Right, there's so much to unpack.

And you know what I love?

What I love is that the very first episode, they're like, yeah, you're gonna see butts and some Dick sucking.

That's what's gonna happen on the show.

I kind of love that they kind of put it out there in the very first episode 'cause they're like, if you can't get past this, then you're not comfortable enough to see the see through the rest of it.

And I think that that's kind of, I can't wait to talk about hated rivalry at length.

But I think one of the things that people do need to understand is that like, you know, we talk about like, oh, love is love and everything is everybody can love anybody and it's totally fine.

But then people will say they like, but I like, don't need to see it like in my face.

What they really mean by that is that they're uncomfortable with the idea of two men sexually engaging with each other, right?

So it's like, you can stay here for the love story if you're actually comfortable with the fact that part of that love story includes sucking Dick.

Yeah, exactly.

And so again, I, I don't know because I've only seen the first episode, but what my experience was was that I went through that.

I survived.

I survived 2 hot men making out with each other.

That was a burden that I had to take personally, no.

And honestly, the way that there were some parts of it, when I felt like it was getting too intense or whatever, I would focus my eyes on other places.

And again I am the wrong.

One that's for you to that that's for you.

To, I understand, yeah.

And then also there were scenes where I was like, OK, can I forward through this a little bit quicker and not miss anything?

And so I tried doing that a couple of places and then you go, well, they seem to be talking now and again.

That information is important.

Whatever the point is, I first messaged you and I said, hey, this is a little bit intense and I paused it, but then I went back to it.

And then that second message that I sent you where it said that I'm all the way in is because it is fucking worth it.

Like it is a great show.

I want to talk to you about when we talk about it, right?

The first like the 1st 15 minutes, what I was thinking about was Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.

And I will tell you exactly why there is something, the rivalry aspect of this, right?

And like the way that they show it, the way that they show being obsessed with your rival.

Now, obviously Larry Bird and Magic Johnson did not engage in a in a homosexual relationship.

But like when you watch their documentaries and they talk about like how they used to check each other's box scores when they used to wake up.

That was the first thing that they used to do because they were so obsessed with each other's success or whatever, right?

Those are the things that I was thinking about when you see them at the gym, just trying to outdo each other and just thinking about each other and like being on top of each other's minds.

That is a real thing that happens in sports.

It just so happens that these are two very attractive men that also like to have sex with each other, which so it's.

Like yeah, they may well.

For an interesting as fuck show, you know what I.

Mean yeah, and it's shot beautifully, so I can't wait.

I think that what this called for is a full.

The soundtrack is amazing guys I think.

By the way, the experience was like going to an EDM show.

This is why you should come to an.

EDM I can't wait to go to an EDM show.

I That's one of the things I'd really like to do in 2020.

6 This love is up.

I'm going to one on Valentine's Day.

Should I bring my husband?

He wouldn't last anyway.

I think it's important for us.

It sounds to me like we're gonna do a heated rivalry only episode next week.

I think that's something only fans.

I think that it's really important for us because it's gonna be the world is miserable.

We need to talk about something that brings us joy.

But also so there was this podcast called Empty Netters.

There are hockey podcasts and they're a bunch of straight guys.

And they started doing this thing where they got really popular because they were recording themselves watching the show together and they would talk about it and it got a lot of attention.

Like even the creators had heard that they were talking about it, all that stuff.

They had like a few people from the show on their podcast.

But then recently somebody found text messages between the creators that somehow weak.

That said quote, I think these losers who made the show are cowards.

This is trash they make because of panders.

It's provocative and it checks inclusivity boxes.

He called people a bunch of like blue haired Twitter users.

So my point is we don't trust straight men who get into gay stuff.

Well, let me reword that.

Yeah, but my point is the world is currently looking for somebody's opinion that they trust.

That is not a gross dude bro, white dude bro.

Who, like wants it?

Let's talk about it.

It's length.

Let's talk about it in depth.

Let's talk.

Let's have a girthy discussion about.

It let's talk about it to completion.

I can't wait to get into that.

It's it's going to be amazing.

It's a thick topic for us to bite into.

Not biting, Oh no.