Tom, happy New Year.

Happy New Year.

What's the song for the new year?

Isn't it that isn't that like odd lying sang or whatever?

I don't know, it's white people stuff.

Wait, but that way you just sang is not.

That is a graduation.

Song right, But I think I think they are the same song.

But like what?

Like odd lying sign is like slowed down 'cause there are instances of that like like God save the Queen is like my country tis of thee or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mm hmm.

Or it's kind of like how there's certain NFL music that sounds like Christmas music to me, but I seem to be the only person that hears it.

So anyway.

I stand by honestly, I think the NFL has the NFL like theme song slaps.

Yeah, and every channel has its own and it's super fun and I but I'm talking about the.

Yeah, that's a good one.

My favorite is when there is, I think it's a Fox Fox Sports 1, which like Fox, but like when a player gets hurt and then they cut to commercial, it slows it down.

There's like, like it like really it like they like take it down a notch and it kind of like use twinkly or music 'cause they're like, this is serious, somebody might be dead.

The way you just did that did sound like giddy up.

Giddy up.

Every time, every time, every single time.

Tom, what have you been watching on Bravo?

I have been watching.

I was watching everything.

And then I decided to free myself from the shackles of the nine, O 2 and O.

Oh no, we're done.

Public service announcement housekeeping on the podcast.

Unless something bombastic happens on Beverly Hills, I will not be talking about Beverly Hills on this podcast.

Thursdays are going to be traders days for me now so Beverly Hills can get fucked.

I don't care about Beverly Hills anymore.

Like I'm I'm willing to go back at some point in time, but like I, like I'll never shut anyone out forever.

If thing like I didn't watch two seasons of OCI believe, but then I came back when they kind of shook some things up.

I just, I, I don't have it in my spirit to watch these women play pretend.

And like, so badly.

Like you're telling me some of you are actresses?

It's just bad guys.

I think we can, you know, I when I post about it, people will always be like, well, then don't watch the show.

And I'm like, OK, but I've been watching this show probably longer than your ass.

So like, I'm just making it clear that a show I've watched for 15 years, I don't watch anymore.

It feels crazy.

I know, I look, I think that it's really funny to me that Peacock slash Bravo slash NBCU made a really big decision.

Like Beverly Hills is allegedly their like highest rated show.

It's the one that gets like the most views and everything.

They put it on in the same night as traders.

That means that they really do not care about that show.

Like to me that means that they're like, not that invested in it because people are going to be on Peacock watching traders.

Yeah, but it's different programming people like those people.

I, I think the NBC Universal like network is different from Peacock.

It's like a different, completely different team.

Like I think like obviously they're related, it's NBC, but I think that they don't for some reason, live TV and streaming doesn't compute as the same because on Peacock you get, you get Beverly Hills on Friday.

So technically, in Peacock's mind, their day is Friday.

Yes, but for Bravo people like I would think that Andy would care about the fact that like his one of his babies, Beverly Hills is having to go up on the same night as traders, even though traders can be watched, you know, whatever later.

But I just think I just think that to me it feels like they don't care, which is fine.

They shouldn't care.

It's not good.

Like, not a lot happens on the show and it pisses me off.

And there's nothing to discuss, like, from like a podcasting perspective.

Like, what am I gonna talk about them staring at each other and, like, complimenting each other's hair?

Like, I don't care, You know what I mean?

Well, what's popular right now in general is very smooth brain content.

Like it's, you're right, like, and there are some of some of it I, I watch, but like the a lot of content is not stimulating.

Like content is slowly becoming less and less stimulating because people don't want to be stimulated.

They don't want to think.

They want to be into a state of like hypnotism so they can all hail our great emperor.

So I just, I think it's part of that wave.

Like I think, I think for some people, some of these shows are a little too challenging for them and they don't want to be challenged.

But just so funny because I'm like, you don't want to be challenged by like real houses of Salt Lake City where they're putting on a play in like, you know, in like Greece.

Like I think that that's so silly that that's, you know, that's a comparison.

So I know well, I'm also watching Vanderpump.

But back to I guess sorry, things that I am watching because that's that's something I'm not watching.

I am watching Interpump rules which I'm I'm I'm OK on.

I'm loving Potomac and Salt Lake City and married to medicine.

I didn't get a chance to get fully caught up on that one but I am liking it.

I always like it.

I'll always catch up.

Like even if I don't watch it week of I'll always watch all their episodes because they they go down easy.

OK, married to medicine.

I did watch this week's like literally an hour ago while I was cooking dinner and I could Tom, I'm sure you can guess what happened because last week somebody fought.

So what do you think happened this week?

They cried and held hands and said, you're my sister.

That's right.

That's right.

And then Jackie said this is the most broken we've ever been, and it's a Jackie.

Always say that.

They always say we've never there.

It's time to go on a on a couples trip because we've never been more broken.

It's like, OK, well, if you're this if you if that if that statement is true, this friend group needs to stop being together because you're you.

Every year you just get more broken.

You know, you were talking about like smooth brain programming.

And the thing with Married to Medicine is that married to Medicine like has the exact same format every year.

Every year it's the same thing.

You start in quad is usually fighting with somebody.

Heavenly is usually fighting with somebody and then there's a couple of parties.

Somebody says something about somebody's husband or somebody's kids or somebody's business.

And then Jackie and Simone are like, let's do an intervention vacation and then they do an intervention vacation where sometimes they do like one or two like Good Samaritan volunteering things.

And then next, you know, it's reunion.

Like that is a show every single year.

And I think that Married to Medicine is a show where like if you are looking for smooth brain programming, that is a good one.

But a lot of stuff happens and they do make me lol so hard when I like.

Yeah, it's yeah, I agree there's but they're also addressing the thing where I where I will always for married to medicine is 1 authentic friendships 2.

They're always talking about what's happening in the world and how it affects the medical the medical world, which I especially in the last like 5 years has been I think really important.

And they're always willing to have tough conversations, which I I always I always love to see that.

What I can't get behind though is them always this narrative that Doctor Jackie is our like our St.

of Bravo when in reality she is so nasty and so.

Rude.

So rude.

Do you have a thyroid issue?

I almost I jumped out of my seat.

And I like that to me, I know I like her cuz she just looked like the woman that she was saying this to Brandy.

She just looked at her and she was like, I know exactly what you're doing and I'm not going to engage like I love that.

So I do love Mary to Madison.

Anyway, nothing really crazy happened.

Let's talk about Vanderpump Rules real quick.

I was watching it this week, this week's episode and last week's episode.

I like watch together.

And you know what I realized Tom is like they're watching and, and this is, by the way, going to be said as parentheses complimentary.

It's like watching what the people from Love Island would do if they had jobs at a restaurant.

It's very Love Island coded.

It's Love Island people out of the villa.

And it is, you know, if you watch it with that lens, it's fine.

It's, you know, we have like that Angelica and Jason, who's probably fucking his cousin.

Her name is Angelica.

Is that it?

I to be honest, their names do not stick with me.

I cannot the only person.

Whose name?

Made that up, lands with me is Venus.

Of course.

And Marcus, Venus and Marcus I get.

I'm sorry to the ladies.

I don't know all.

I don't know a lady's name.

It is Angelica.

Angelica the like Olympic athlete or whatever she is.

Wait, the New Girl is an Olympic athlete?

Too, She was like in the national team for like Taekwondo.

Oh no jiu jitsu I think.

No, the the man is jiu jitsu.

Jason does jiu jitsu.

She does Taekwondo, which is so trendy right now.

I don't know if you knew this.

Everyone I know.

So I know so many people who are doing jiu jitsu now that's I never thought I'd say.

Tom Jiu Jitsu is very red pill coated.

No, but people I know that are not red pill like in the city it's.

I know, but it's, it's an unfortunately it's, it's a very red pill space.

I mean, our president is hosting AUFC fight on the White House lawn for July 4th.

So I do think that that's, you know, it's all in the same.

It's like UFC.

It's all that weird.

Like man, like guys just kiss each other.

But I know the people I know who do jiu jitsu are women.

Girls just kiss each other the the cousins.

Can we just talk briefly about the cousins?

The only fans Cousins.

Yeah, the jerk off together.

What do you want to?

Know fascinated by them.

I am obsessed with them.

They are so corny and I can't stop watching them.

They're so Love Island coded.

They are, but you know, your comparison of island by the way, I think what what you're just saying though, is like it's a show, like it's the same generation of humans.

That's why like they're just Gen.

Z ers you.

Know yeah, yeah like they don't really have personalities really right like they're just they're like baked and cooked and like Instagram and TikTok and like that's you know, like the one girl just turned 22 like it's that's what it is, but I am enjoying it.

It's whatever.

That's some smooth brain programming that like does make me laugh.

Also, I do enjoy it.

What's the girl's name?

The star who's like has the the singing career, hopefully.

Natalie.

Love, Natalie.

Love her love.

Last week just like the her just crashing out and them just having a good time behind her.

Beautiful.

I also did enjoy Marcus and Jason standing together to write 1 text to come out for for Angelica to come out.

That was cute.

I was like these people are so dumb.

It is.

It is good editing, it's fun to watch.

Marcus, there's something about him that feels people are comparing him with Jackson.

I'm like, no, he's so, so sweet at in his soul.

I think he's just lost.

Yeah, he's like, like, I don't want to compare him to James Kennedy.

Maybe it's because he also wants to be a DJ, But like, it feels more like the soft feelings I used to get for James Kennedy than any feelings I ever had for Jax Taylor.

Yeah, I know.

I totally agree.

Yeah, but, you know, it's whatever I do.

I do love it.

I like watching it.

It's a good time.

But we're going to talk mostly about Potomac and Salt Lake City because that's reasons for the seasons.

Yeah, that's what people want to hear us to speak on.

Is there's new shaws out this week also?

Yeah, it is.

Can I say something?

I've never admitted this on air.

You hate Persian people?

No could.

You imagine.

Imagine I'm like I'm Sunni and I hate all those Shias just.

Kidding.

You never watch Shahs of Sunset.

No, no, no, I love Shahs of Sunset.

I didn't even watch the I didn't watch the trailer.

I saw it drop during like the Bravo con stuff and I was just like, Nah, I'm not gonna watch this.

And I never watched the trailer.

So I I watched the trailer but I have only seen seasons one through 3 or 4 of Shahs.

So I I don't but I'm OK not catching up really.

I know what I know what happens like I know I know that it's.

A format is the same.

I know but with like Mike being such a fuck boy and getting into so much real life shit I just was like I don't think I can do this with him.

And then also the stuff with Reza and MJ falling out over when when that man wait who went and tore up the yard?

It was MJ's husband.

Husband tore up Reza's yard, right?

I mean, he threw a couple of pots around it's.

Really not that serious no I know it made me lol that that didn't make me lol.

But it made me sad that they weren't together like weren't friends for so long.

So I I'm just excited for this new chapter and I really, really love to see this crop of girls back together again.

Queen of Crash out.

Gol NASA, the original Gigi?

The original.

Now she belongs on a different show that I've been watching.

Is it bad girls that is baddies?

Baddies.

Baddies.

Now, I did see that you've been watching it.

And you know, Tom, you are the premier television trash influencer in my life.

A dumpster diva, if you will.

Yeah, I'm very influenced when you watch things.

I don't know that this one is for me, for Noor.

Why not?

I don't know, there's just something like you, you are a little more wholesome than I, these people.

If what I'm about to describe to you, if this is for you, then watch it.

But I just want, I'm going to be honest, these people like they spend they probably film for three weeks and it's like a or maybe less than that.

And it's like a 20 episode season and you're watching.

You're watching just like essentially nest Cam footage of them beat the absolute living shit out out of each other with their tits and their coochies out.

Now, what about that feels something like something I wouldn't enjoy?

Hello.

No, I wouldn't give.

It a spin if you want, but I just my fascination with a lot of reality TV that it's like the reason I fell into Love Island is that and it's not even just reality TV actually, it's just kind of everything.

Like I like to know what gets everyone going on the culture.

Like I just even if the if it's not for me, I can confidently say I've ditched my toe and pretty much every like, yeah, kind of facet of reality TV to see what it was all about.

Like I I don't watch Dancing with the Stars, but I've seen some of that.

Like I don't watch Bachelor, but I watched that for a couple years, like so and I watched Jocelyn's Cabaret, which was on Zeus, which is essentially the same.

So show I was there just yeah, yeah, I like this better.

I will.

OK.

Is there a competition portion or it's just no gal?

They do have auditions to become a bad girl, it is just bad Girls Club.

Which bad Girls Club?

All they did was they just filmed them going to the club every night.

The funniest thing about the show though is they're always like this season on Baddies.

We're here to get the bag and then they're like, but they never get the bag because they never make it to the club because someone's bleeding.

The episode I was watching last night someone ripped an artery in their ass cheek and had to go go to the hospital to get stitches and it's and the woman who got her ass ripped her name is her name is Roly, short for Roly Poly.

Not Roly Poly got her ass she gripped.

Like honestly, like I I think you could watch the first.

So I I Batty S is what I watched first, which is that's season 2.

I'm now on Batty's West.

They're just, Oh my God.

They're just taking the baddies.

All around the country they go, they have baddies Caribbean, they have baddies, they have baddies.

Africa coming up.

Oh my God, I love it.

But but I think you could jump.

Baddies S was great, but lower budget Baddies W 'cause I think baddies S was like the low up season for them, so they got tons of money.

Baddies W is like high Sheen production value and you can kind of really see the blood and tits up close.

Oh, OK.

And when you said hi, Sheen, you don't.

You mean Sheen like the finished Sheen, not like the company that sells the clothes.

And I and I mean both.

Oh OK, is there a Baddies East?

Go ahead.

What'd you say?

Is there Baddies East?

Well, yes, that's not the next season.

OK cuz not I'm interested in as an East Coast girly myself.

OK, well, when I OK, so after I finish West, we can watch East and talk about it if you want.

I mean, I don't.

I'm worried for you.

My I think my biggest thing with watching it was I never watched Bad Girls Club, so I didn't know who Natalie Nunn was.

As a yeah, I only know her from her face and her chin.

Have you seen her blowing smoke?

Of course, everybody has.

So that was really why I wanted to get to know get to know the girls.

And also I know that Raven and Kendrick just love it so much.

So we have a text start going and they are dying.

They're like, Tom, I can't believe you're watching this show.

Now, is there a portion of the show where they say come and get your chain and then there's a SO?

So there so before each season there's baddie's auditions to get on that season and they it it is hilarious.

Maybe, just maybe you know what that's what you should watch.

You need to watch the baddies W auditions episode and let me know your thoughts.

So they essentially recreate American Idol.

Their reunion host is like waiting outside of the rooms after they get their ticket to Hollywood.

Like they, it's the whole thing, except it's just completely disorganized.

And so they they essentially just have like 200 women in like stripper outfits locked in a room and they just have to walk up on their own 1 by 1 to a table and tell them why they're a baddie in five seconds.

And you just watch just an hour of that.

And they are these one lady starts twerking and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you are not a baddie.

And she's like, why?

And she's like your tampon string is hanging out of your.

Ass.

Oh my God.

Well.

You're twerking.

And she was like, well, what am I supposed to do?

And they were like, wear underwear.

Wait, that's amazing.

Also, it's kind of feels to me like if American Idol, America's Next Top Model and like Flavor of Love and what was what was the etiquette show with Monique Charm School, Charm School, all were mashed together.

Charm school you can pull out of it though, 'cause there's no Natalie Nunn has no interest in making them good.

Like she's never like be better.

She's like, sometimes they'll just be like security.

You guys can step back.

The girls need to fight it out and she'll like let them.

She'll just let them run at run at each other.

Oh my God.

And this is on Zeus.

Zeus, yes.

OK, All right.

Well, that was a glowing recommendation, and I'm gonna make sure that the zoo's people Natalie None cuts you a check because that was so good.

Wait one, wait one other thing and then we can move to actual shows.

Their reunions.

I'm I haven't watched a non housewife or bravo reunion in a minute and I forgot that not everyone brings like full like regalia to the stage.

Yeah, for their reunions.

Their reunion for Batty S was hosted by Trina who is like a very, very famous rapper.

Yeah, of course.

I would show up in a really cute outfit for Trina.

No, these girls are wearing their their Nike high tops, a tank top and like some shorts and they're like, Hey, what's up, Natalie?

None shows up in that.

Yeah, but you need to be dressed comfortably if you're going to be beating somebody's ass.

You know what?

You bring up a really good point.

Yeah, you can't be fighting people in a fucking gown.

The last time somebody did that, it was Porsche and Kenya.

There's.

A Well, we we.

Yeah, we can't.

What were you gonna say?

What were you?

Gonna say there is a woman on this current season that is my new obsession.

Her name is Biggie and she talks like this.

She's like, I know you're not coming for Biggie.

And I'm like, I can't even get down to her level of voice.

It's, it's fascinating.

So.

Amazing.

OK, well let's go over to Real Houses of Potomac first.

This week on Real Houses of Potomac, Tia went into some random white people's house.

Monique hosted A binder and book party, and then Angel did her big one.

She put on a hat.

She said there's a snake in my boots.

And then she invited the ladies out to Colorado to yeehaw it up.

But not at her house, at another house.

And obviously that that sparked up some shadiness.

What did you think about Monique's Binder party?

I thought, I think it's a good idea, but I thought the delivery was really clunky.

She needed someone helping her organize that.

I thought.

I thought the idea was fun to be like, I'm still shady, like let's talk shit, but like, why is there an audience to hear you talk Shit like that would have pissed me off if I was, if I was, what's her face the new one, Angel.

If I was Angel, I would have been mad that Ashley wrote that shit about me.

And then this whole like, everyone has to hear it.

Yeah, being like catfish, whatever.

Like I'm like that just, it's not really, I don't know, it didn't really land, right.

I also, if I was there, I would be like, is this a, is this a ticketed event?

What are we watching?

Exactly.

No.

Also, if I was a cast member and I was invited to a book event and this is something that I would imagine Monique sold tickets to, I think.

And then now and then I'm being put on the spot.

I'd be like, is this a, are you going to cut me a track?

Like what is going on here?

Because like, what you're not going to do is use me for promotion.

Although I did enjoy it, I did find it really cute and fun that she was like bringing back her stuff.

But, you know, I just can't get over the fact.

I mean, I know I was very excited right now for you to tell me about the show where women do beat each other up.

But I don't love seeing Monique back because I'm like, you know, she she did say the last time there was a table between me and someone, it didn't go well for them.

So I'm like, well, can you write a letter to yourself again, Monique?

Because I don't think that you've really changed that much, you know?

Yeah, but we don't we don't need to rehash that battle.

But my take on it is maybe, maybe Natalie Nunn has gotten into my head, but I'm kind of like, let's go.

My thing is like Candace, I I am a candy girl first.

Like I've never been a Monique person.

But Candace, like is always poking the bear.

Monique said please stop.

And so like she was like, well, this is how we do it.

I don't know.

I kind of thought it was blown a bit out of proportion where Giselle was like, you're ruining the the legacy of like this show.

I'm like y'all, the legacy of this show is you.

You devour people's marriages.

That's right.

Exactly.

Unless it's your best friend and her husband is actively cheating on her and then you just say oh leave Robin alone.

Yeah, you devour marriages, you go.

People are going to prison like but, but God forbid someone like.

God forbid somebody, God, you're like, God forbid somebody who runs through a barn and tells somebody that they're going to kill them.

I mean, God forbid God.

Forbid A baddie be a baddie.

Monique, come get your chain.

Do you think that Angel did her big one?

I don't, I don't think Angel with all the resources in the world is capable of doing a little a medium sized one.

She.

Is OK, So her corniness, it actually delights me now.

Like I actually get really, really excited when she thinks that she's doing something really big.

And then we're like, oh, like even her being like, you know, her being like, you know what they're like, why aren't we staying at your house?

And she's like, it's because I want to keep the energy clean.

And they're like, really?

And then she's like, it's, it's, it's because of space.

There's, there's not, there's not enough space in my house for you guys.

Like that is just so sad to me, right?

Like it's like, you really tried it.

And then she was like, no, guys, it's just there's, there's not, there's not enough beds.

The house isn't actually that big.

I'm actually full of shit.

Like I love watching her fumble.

I think it's really fun.

I agree.

I, I think that I, if I was with her, I constantly would be like, you really thought you were doing something like I just think everyday I'd be like, you really thought this was this is going to eat and you're you're not eating.

But but I think in her defense, I think there's some production shenanigans here.

A little bit about the trip because one, I think the obvious reason of why this house is so far away is they could not for the life of them find a house.

Yeah, like where the people were willing to have cameras there or with all the like when people when these shows go film, like they have to put take cameras to the walls.

Like they have to do a ton of shit to get it ready for the show.

And the summer in like a summers in Colorado, like with no time notice.

Like I could see it being a problem, but put them in a hotel.

There are hotels by your house like she doesn't live in.

She put the the women in like bum fuck mountains, yes, but I don't think that that's where she lives.

That's not what she lives standing.

She lives, I mean, the map that they were showing, it looked like she lives somewhere closer to like Colorado Springs.

And that's like not near the airport, but they live like where they're staying is like even further than that.

Like it's somewhere between the airport and her house.

But it just sounds like it's a big logistical nightmare.

I did think that it was cute that she was she put Giselle and Ashley in a room together with twin beds.

And you know what, Tom, I'm going to say something.

Maybe people disagree with me.

I kind of love sleeping on a twin bed.

And you know what?

And you know, maybe I'm just saying that because I get to sleep on a king bed every day.

But like I I've had to sleep on a twin bed like a few times in my life and it's not that bad.

Who cares?

Now I I think a full is where I drop is like the largest, the smallest don't go like twin.

Those were fools.

Those are fools.

Twins were like I think when I think twin, I think like I think like college size bed.

Have you been on a twin recently?

Have I been on a twin recently?

I think I have.

I feel like it's bigger than I feel like it's bigger than you think, for sure.

I, I think if I'm alone, I'm, I think a queen.

I don't need anything bigger than a queen.

Sometimes when you get a king and you're alone, like in a hotel room for instance, it's just kind of.

Like it's too cold.

I'm just like what the hell is over there?

Like I just.

But I make a mountain for my pillows.

I don't need, I don't need the king if I'm alone, but I I would not like the the twin necessarily.

But at the same time, like I'm always down to share a room.

If we have like separate beds on a girl's vacay, that doesn't bother me.

Yeah, I feel like if I'm going to share a room with a person and it has two beds, I'm OK with that.

I think the bigger concern would be bathroom.

Like do I get my own bathroom?

Is that I think is a bigger thing that you have to share and that is annoying.

But I did love that Angel was like, I'm going to say that I don't care about the show, but then I'm going to do this thing that has been done on the show many, many times, including the very first season when Ashley put Giselle and Robin in a room with twin size beds and then a few seasons ago where Mia put Giselle and Robin in twin size beds.

So.

That house was haunting guys.

If you need a if you need a real jump scare, go watch that cast trip on season 1.

They were in a really like a very like average lake house.

Like I think I would love to probably go there for an Airbnb.

Like it was it was it was pretty, but it's not like housewives and just a house decorated by Michael Darby.

It was just haunting and.

It didn't have air conditioning.

Yeah, it was a mess.

It was a disaster.

It was in Delaware.

It was Bethany Beach anyway, so why do I?

Stand there drinking her coronas I can't stand.

Watching her husband grope people's butts.

I can't stand her in her coronas.

There's something about her in a corona that I don't like.

I actually had that birthday party this episode and I don't care about any of them, but I live for her Uncle Lump.

I love that man.

He is always so irritated by these people.

He hates his sister, he hates his niece.

He like like they're talking about like Ashley's stepdad finally like going to get help or whatever.

And he just he gets so annoyed.

He goes, what, what, what are we talking about?

Who are we talking about?

John?

He went what he went and got help and.

Everybody's like.

We weren't supposed to use his name.

But I know it's clearly like the show, like they don't want to say his name on the show.

And she's like, can we just say their name, please?

This is crazy.

I love him.

He's like, all right, I'm going to get rolled in by Ashley and Sheila and I'm going to give them advice and they're going to not listen to me.

And then I'm just going to roll my eyes and I'm going to say, what the fuck are we doing here?

Then they'll bring me back again, I guess.

I like I like him too.

I like him too.

No, but the the House, can we talk about this water situation?

Oh yeah, there's no water.

Was that in the clip for the next episode?

No, that was this episode, wasn't it?

Oh, no.

Oh no, you're right.

That was next week.

I watched the clip like right when I went.

Oh, never mind.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So next week's previews show that there's no water in the house, which is crazy.

It's a mess and like, I'm sorry Angel, you just keep digging your hole deeper.

I think the thing with her that I can't stand is she's not a real person.

Like she can't land and she realized that she's not playing the right character here.

And so she's always auto correcting.

But then when she gets to that confessional chair, she's all of a sudden like channeling like Karen Huger in a way.

She's like And when my husband rings, I pick up the call and I'm like, who are you?

I cannot figure out how old she is, Tom.

She could be your age.

She could be five years older than me.

I have no idea.

But her energy is so geriatric to me and that's why I'm always laughing when she gets in that chair.

She's like, as a wife of a football player, I'm like Angels Wake.

Up.

The way you said that made me sound like it was like in my 20s or something.

I'm like, Oh my God, we're only five years apart.

Yeah, gave a range of 10 years to me.

She could be to me.

She could be 28.

She could be 63.

That's what I'm saying.

We have no idea.

We have absolutely no idea how old this woman is.

All we know is that her husband is hot as fuck.

Y'all and housewives, please stop getting rentals for reality shows.

It will always come out that you're in a rental and people will judge you.

Yeah, also.

Her thing is so clunky because like, I think she thought the season was obviously, it's obvious that she thought the season was going to end a lot sooner than it actually did.

And so she only got that rental for like a little amount of time.

And then there was like 2.

It was like an episode before the eviction episode.

She was like, I'm so happy that we found the perfect house to buy here in Potomac.

And then two episodes later she was like, we're going back to Colorado cuz we got evicted or whatever or like or lease ended.

And I'm just like, what?

And she's like, we didn't get the house in the time that we thought we were going to get the house.

She has almost like a Meredith Marks like groveliness to her voice too, cuz she's like very slow talking.

But it's just it, you know, I feel for her.

But I mostly the person I really feel for is Kiarna because Kiarna brought this woman on TV.

She was like, my friend is fabulous.

She's the wife of the NFL player.

She's really cool.

She has this like outdoors company.

Also, by the way, if your business is luxury vacations for people and you put people in a house without water.

Not a good luck diva.

No, no, wait.

But OK.

Back to Qiana though.

Did you think it was weird that she didn't put Qiana in her house with her?

I thought that was so weird.

No, she is.

She's going to take Qiana and Tia to the house, back to her house.

She did.

Tia and Wendy no.

No, no, Wendy got the basement.

Oh, duh.

OK, never mind.

Wendy got the basement which is so obnoxious because Wendy got like 4 beds and Giselle and Ashley got one room with two tiny beds.

Can you talk about Kierna?

Kierna on mushrooms or whatever, she says.

Yes.

I was like, why was she crying?

And she starts crying.

I was like, she's fucked up.

Wait, wait, sorry.

I have so much to say about Kierna.

First thing before we got to the trip, I found the Billboard so black out at that billboard.

I was like he was like my friend who is my friend who sometimes I live in a home that I'd purchase sometimes for me and her.

Cheers to whatever's up there.

I'm so proud of my soon to be ex friend who I may not buy a ring for.

Have you seen this frame?

You should put a picture in it.

It's.

So he, they're so, they're so lame.

It's so funny.

Kiera being like, I've always had a dream about having a billboard.

You didn't win a prize.

You buy an ad spot.

That's like me putting up a billboard for my podcast on the fucking Turnpike and being like, I can't believe I have a billboard on the Turnpike.

You pay for it.

It's an ad.

Something about that, something about it feels humiliating.

I I don't know why it just does.

Also 'cause it's not like a, it's not like a regular billboard, it's like an electronic 1, so like.

Right.

It's like you're what I what I see up there is like injury insurance, not not whatever you're selling.

It's like Chick-fil-A, like eat more chicken, like a cow saying eat more chicken and then next thing you know.

It's Kiarna.

I just love that they were like waiting in a grassy Knoll waiting for her.

They were literally on the Billboard.

They're on the side of the highway.

It hits every hour and 53.

Greg is such a loser, but I use another one.

I can't stop watching him.

I can't stop watching him.

That picture frame business.

Oh God, that was so good.

She's like, you want me so good?

And I thought.

I was living in a time warp because every time they go into his house, it's the same scene and it's they always come into the kitchen.

He opens up a bottle of champagne.

She goes.

What did you give me, Greg?

She pours into something and then they go sit down and they talking about whether they're gonna live in a house together or not.

I promise you guys, there's been at least three of that scene in this season.

And every time it happens, I literally get my remote.

I'm like, am I watching the right episode?

It is the same and each time I feel like Greg gets worse and worse on camera.

Like he gets more and more nervous on camera, like he's not getting comfortable with the cameras.

He's just.

Drinking more I think now to get more comfortable so he's like I choose my mind.

I love you so much.

He said he called himself Mr.

Biggs, and then he was like, except that Mister Diggs and you know what the D stands for.

And Kierna's like, ha, not the D Craig, like Kierna.

He's such a loser.

Look at you, look at your and you're a.

Baddie.

She's a baddie.

She she got a fistfight, she's a baddie trying.

To get your chain get.

You know, the chain has been taken away.

Her, her, you know, her ass popped a 10 milligram edible and it hit with a second.

She opened up the curtains of that bedroom and it was like, and the trees and the altitude and the two shots of tequila.

She literally was like she I never she was just like I I this is this is an audio podcast, obviously, but I'm just like trying to imitate.

Her new Patreon.

Patreon exclusive.

You want to see she's like, she's like Doe White and she's like, she's so fucked up.

It's almost like she's seeing life through a fisheye limbs.

All of a sudden she's like.

It's so good.

It was so good and I died.

And then and then she's seen the bag goes.

They don't got trees in Baltimore.

Yo, Potomac is so fucking good.

I I this, this season really has been so wonderful.

And I think that it's getting a little slept on just because Salt Lake is, is really swinging big.

But I, I think, I mean, I think they're, I believe every season for them continues to get even higher ratings too.

So like, yeah.

But don't make it so good.

They're so good.

It's like a, you know, we had a couple of rough couple of seasons in the middle there where we weren't sure what was going on, but like, hello, the end of this season to one person comes out of jail and another person goes to jail.

I know what more can you ask for?

I also, I also like that we've released, obviously this is a this, this like subtext will always live in this franchise, but we've released a little bit of the colorism conversations from the show.

Like I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about it, but I don't think Andy is our facilitator for those conversations.

Like we've tried to in the past on this franchise.

And we've also released the like coming from marriages situations as much.

And the girls are more just focusing on like they're in the now, like what their dynamics are.

People are getting evicted.

Stacey lies like Stacey Stacey's got bad breath.

Like like it's just, it's just fun shenanigans and I, I'm really enjoying it.

Yeah, it's the best.

Also, don't bring Nicki Minaj back to host anything.

No, no.

Let's go over to like I actually did not talk about last week's episode.

So if we can, I would like to chat a little bit about both the finale and last week's episode because last week there was so much that happened, but like also not a lot that happened.

Like there was so much.

It was so much bickering.

I loved last week's episode because it was, like, classic rehearsals of New York to me, Like, the way that they were fighting, like the fact that, like, it was a Ramona callback of, like, who are you to get my hair wet?

And like, I just blow dried my hair and now my hair is wet.

Also, like, both Heather, like Meredith shot in a pool.

Yeah.

What the fuck?

At the spa, man.

He slept on.

It is.

I'm like nobody's talking about.

It's like sound like one of those threads where they're like, I feel like nobody's talking about.

And it's like the thing that everybody's talking about, but for real nobody.

I think no one's talking about the Stranger Things finale, did you?

No.

You're not a stranger thing.

Well no, I I watched the first part of the season y'all.

I can't stand the Part 1 Part 2.

Same thing with Wednesday.

Like I watched the first part and then I'm like, I can't bring myself to.

You know what I do?

I don't.

I don't watch it when the first part comes out, I wait and stuff.

But then I think it's out.

It's just annoying.

And The thing is, I honestly didn't even get spoiled by anything that happened in Stranger Things.

I just, I can't stand really Bobby Brown giving like like smizing to the camera at all times.

Well, I watched all of it with my kids, so I need you to catch up because the next time you see my kids, you need to have a full conversation with them about all of their favorite characters.

It's their.

Favorite show and I need them to watch bad.

Easy.

Okay, imagine Noah.

They would think it was small, they would think it was funny.

But then they I think it might be a little.

There's a lot of nudity.

I don't think it's appropriate.

Oh, Noah, I was watching Married to Medicine 'cause, you know, I think you've seen my office before, but like, I have my MacBook and then I have like my work laptop.

So Married to Medicine is a show that I just, like, throw on in the background while working.

And Noah came upstairs and he needed homework help and I paused it and the captions were on and it was the men talking.

And Eugene said, well she did send that text about my Dick being small.

And Noah read that and he was like what are you watching?

And I was like, Noah, don't worry about it, Don't worry, don't.

Worry about it.

Don't wait.

It's not.

For you back to Ramona for a second, when about her being like who are you to get my hair wet?

The line actually is who are you to get me wet?

Which I think is so hilarious that she says that verbatim.

Who are you to get me Wet Wet?

Who do you want to get you wet, baby?

Harry Dubin.

Harry Dubin.

Yeah, it just, I felt like nobody talked about the fact that Meredith just casually pooped a little bit into a wearing a white bathing suit, might I add.

Yeah.

And then they.

Just like, I bet you she poops like caviar.

Like it's just little like.

I bet that those girls have horrible poops.

Oh yeah, 'cause they all, they're, they're all on.

They're either horribly constipated, 'cause they're on their their needles or they are only eating like blue juice, like blue blueberry smoothies.

And so their shits are like blue liquid or.

Lisa Bartlett probably is the only one with regular shits because she's pounding down that Wendy's.

Do you have regular shits when you go to Wendy's Because.

I feel like fast.

I feel like fast food poops are just like they're it goes right through you.

But maybe that food goes right through me because I have it so rarely.

Because it's there's no nutrition in it like your body, your body didn't have to think.

Your body didn't have to think about it.

Your body's like nothing to nothing.

To see your life, push it through, push it.

Go ahead.

I also love that that a full ASMR fight last episode.

It's our imitating life.

It's crazy that that has been a thing on these shows online for so long and that now it's coming to fruition.

It's like, I can't believe that you would do that to me.

I can't believe you would talk to me like that.

I'm sad right now.

Why would you do that?

She said.

I haven't spoken to my children in months.

You just said to yourself your hair looks that way because it's fake.

I can't stand Meredith, but I have to say one of my favourite lines of this whole season is when when Brittany says like, well, I haven't talked to him.

I didn't talk to my kids for two years and it just got some Meredith.

She goes, of course, of course.

It's about you, of course.

And it's always about you, 'cause like, she's like.

She's the way she loses.

Her breath.

So good.

Have you been to Santorini or where where you have?

I've always wanted to go.

It does.

Are you drinking out of a baby bottle?

What the hell is that?

It looks like it had a little Oh.

Patreon exclusive.

It's.

The top the top of it isn't coming through clear on here and it looks like a little.

Stick on it, imagine I'm like it's just my sippy cup.

It's like the, yeah, it's, it's weird.

I know something about them filming here.

It feels incredibly claustrophobic everywhere they are.

I wouldn't say so.

I went so long ago.

I went in 2013 and I do think that it is a lot more crowded than people expected to be.

And also like, there's a lot of stairs.

Like you have to take a million stairs in Santorini.

I know people who have been to Santorini with like, babies and strollers.

And I'm like, how?

Because that's crazy to me.

But yeah, it's, it's not that it's claustrophobic because like, the roads are a little windy, like the walkways, but then everywhere you turn, there's like the sea and it's like, gorgeous, you know what I mean?

I do.

I am like, you know, Mary being like so worried that about like all the stairs and them falling.

I think it's a legitimate concern because like, I mean, they're all on Meredith, but I don't think anybody's sober on this trip.

No, and they just, they just released a sneak peek of the reunion.

Did you see that of Whitney talking about Bravo Con being blackout?

Oh, I didn't see that.

Yeah, she I guess she had to apologize to Andy.

And like Meredith is like before we get into the reunion, I want to clarify like your behavior Bravo Con and you're the one coming for me about the the substances.

So.

Wow.

Well, yeah, I did hear that about Bravo Con, that Whitney was plastered the entire weekend.

Yeah.

OK, this week we obviously the big thing was this melodramatic Greek tragedy.

And honestly, for me, the most shocking thing was when we started watching it, I was like, oh, so the woman with the red hair, that's her actual hair.

She didn't put on a wig to pretend to be Whitney.

Like that was crazy to me that she wasn't playing Whitney.

Yeah, she's playing Mary.

I'm like, you have you.

You have Spaghettio's hair, You play Whitney.

Yeah, hello.

It was so over the top.

Obviously the other big thing was like, these women are concerned, quote, UN quote for Meredith's mental space and whatever, and they're all coming from Meredith.

But still, still, somehow, at the end, we have Heather Gay sobbing.

OK, I I have something to say.

OK, go ahead.

In TuneIn, a dumpster dive podcast for more of me having things to say.

But, and I'll repeat this there, but I am not, I'm not a Meredith person really like anymore.

I used to love her and then she just it.

I just don't love how she navigates the show.

It just it doesn't, it doesn't always work for me.

But I think if Heather and Whitney were not on the back half of this season, I don't think like I think we could have had more interesting storylines come out through just like natural events occurring.

But instead, I mean, I, and I'll put most of the blame on Heather cuz she is like the one that spearheads the narrative for the show.

She just puts too much energy on like how the story is going to go.

And so she's like, I have to have my finale moment now since reality, reality Von Tees.

So like I'm going to take Meredith down in a dramatic monologue on the Santorini backdrop.

Like I'm like girl, stop, shut the fuck up.

If anyone spent this much time on your life, you would leave the show.

No And.

She Heather Gay really is.

MMM, turn it around.

Wicked witching Mary works because it's really crazy her being like just go, just leave.

Get the Uber and go.

They're leaving.

Girl, why are you freaking out?

Why are you crying so hard?

Hear you, You're standing, right?

I'm like, you just screamed at her until it also kind of screamed out of nowhere.

And I think it definitely was edited obviously down.

I'm sure they were there for a while, but I still think they, I feel like that moment still came pretty out of nowhere because it didn't feel like there was any reason to be coming for her in this moment.

Meredith was sitting there being vulnerable with them and then all of a sudden Heather's like fuck you.

It was so bizarre.

I think that Heather feels really, Heather feels a lot of any time somebody accuses Heather of treating somebody a certain way or Heather is so concerned about the way that she's coming off to the audience that every single season she tries to be like the most virtuous one.

Like she's basically doing what she probably used to do when she was like actively a part of the Mormon church, like being like the most like truthful, most honest, most real person on the show, right?

And anybody who she feels like is like slightly not honest, she's like, like, I can't trust them.

Like her saying that Bronwyn Bronwyn's story, she's something like 1 foot on like something in a banana peel.

And I was like that she's.

Trying to reference no girl doesn't work I'm.

Like no, like she doesn't like Bronwyn, but Bronwyn, like after this Greek thing, I was first of all, I was cracking up watching this story.

I was like, this is so cute.

I was like, this is so fun.

What a cute story at the end, right?

And then Bronwyn is like, I was horrified and I was like, no, Bronwyn, calm down.

There is no reason to be horrified.

But, you know, she says at the end of it, like, you guys were talking about me and those are things that I need to improve about myself.

And she was like crying and being vulnerable.

And Heather, when they turned the camera to her.

And again, this could be editing, but I felt like to me, one, Heather was drunk already and two, and two, she suddenly started to realize that like, she's not going to get that big finale monologue because everybody else is opening up and everybody else is like being vulnerable, like Lisa Barlow.

I was like, look at Miss Lisa Barlow.

She really came out.

I'm tough by the end of this season.

Most likable finale and most likable episode for her in a minute from me cuz I don't love her.

And I was like, look at you.

She was a delight in Greece.

I mean, she did call, she did call Brittany Alki casually that.

Was kind of funny.

It was kind of funny.

We have to be honest.

Let's all be honest about that.

But, you know, like her crying and being like, saying what she said, like her admitting like, yeah, I like, hide behind these things because, like, this is all I have.

Like, these are my, like, levels of success, everybody being vulnerable.

And then Meredith, I think the thing that Meredith said that really set Heather off is Meredith is always going to paint herself as a martyr.

Like she has that martyr mother mentality.

Like she is like, that's why the episode where she cried on Mother's Day of her being like, of course it has to be about you.

Like that was so funny because like, that's just who Meredith is.

So Meredith being like, everybody thinks I'm not fine, but I am fine.

And I get sad sometimes, but I'm OK.

And I just feel like everybody's getting upset at me and like, I can't open up because I'm afraid, right?

Like when she says she's afraid, Heather is like, oh, now the audience is going to think that we're bullying you, so that's why you're afraid.

Why I can't have that.

Let me scream you about not being authentic and you're like, Heather, go away.

Like she's not even calculated in a fun way.

She's just like she's calculated in a really boring way.

She's just boring.

She is, you know, Raven always says it online and I gotta agree with her.

She is the biggest loser we have.

The biggest loser?

She's allergic to slaying like Gina.

Allergic to the sleigh?

Perfect display.

It's.

But Gina's not a loser to me, though.

For some reason she 'cause I, I don't know, there's something about her like that doesn't feel loser to me.

She's not.

The thing is, she's not trying to be anything.

She isn't.

She's just is.

She just is like basic and she's like.

Yeah, you're right.

It's me.

I'm.

Basic and it's like.

That's true, that's true.

She had like Leathers trying.

To be Lisa Barlow.

Yeah, and that's really what it is cuz at the end when she starts crying, she's crying because Lisa went and like took care of Meredith and said like you know, you guys are being too harsh on Meredith.

Cuz here's the thing, everything that they're saying about Meredith is probably true because Lisa Barlow every time they said a thing, Lisa Barlow had her face like oh shit, you went there, you guys said it.

Whoopsie.

Oh my God, I can't believe you guys are saying this.

And like, she doesn't necessarily disagree with it until Meredith gets really upset and then she's like, OK, I'm going to have Meredith back because like, she's obviously really sad, you know?

And that's really when Heather also loses it because she just wants to be Lisa Bartlow and she LBLB.

This is about you, LB.

Shut up, Heather.

Oh God she's so y'all.

She is exhaust.

If you are still taken by the chains of like like the by the the shackles of Heather Gay are holding you down like you and you still want a ride hard for this woman, I encourage you to come to the bright side and release yourself because she is not one of the great housewives.

She isn't.

We have to be honest about that.

For some reason, Bravo has made us think she is.

Can I say also it's funny because like I do think Heather and Whitney function sort of in the same plane in that like they, but something about the way Whitney does it just tickles my fancy.

Her being like Meredith, Meredith, look at me, look at me, Meredith holding Meredith just.

She's not calculated.

That's the thing with her, she.

She tries.

To be and she's too.

She's too.

She's too dumb, guys.

So like, it's just not, it's never gonna be as evil and conniving from her.

Meredith is like you guys said really terrible things about me, and every single time Whitney apologizes for it, she repeats the thing that she said, which always cracks me up.

She's like, Meredith, the time I called you a pill popper and an alcoholic.

I'm sorry about that.

And Meredith, remember when I called you a pill popper, an alcoholic?

I'm really sorry about that.

Meredith, I apologize for that time I called you a pill popper and an alcoholic.

Merits like, OK, are you?

Stop saying it over and over again.

I know.

But I do you think that do you think that they would want to get rid of any anyone?

I I don't think that they it would behoove them to get rid of any of them if they want.

If Meredith wants to leave on her own accord, which I can't honestly see her doing no matter how mean they are to her, like she wants to sell her caviar, she'll she'll show up to film like.

She's, yeah, she's creating a brick and mortar restaurant or lounge of some sort where they will be selling caviar and potato chips.

Like I think she needs the check, honey.

Like she's not.

She's putting that MMM label on anything that she can get her hand guns on, so.

They're not going to change.

And by the way, there are people that are like since last night recasting the show and I'm like, no, no, you love this show because of this exact cast.

Keep it.

Even though Heather is a loser, I need her to stay on the show because her desperation, like her level of like just like being like I've cut my skin open and bled open for all of you.

Like, no, you haven't shut up, you're boring.

Get away from me.

Like I'm not interested.

But she's just so dramatic.

Like I think that you need each and every single.

It's like the it's like they said in the play, without each other, you're nobody.

So that is so beautiful.

I did think it was really funny when Meredith texted Bronwyn to come to her room to talk about the lunch, and then when Bronwyn tried to talk about it on camera, Meredith just straight up denied it.

That's so good.

Because she didn't think they would show footage like she would think.

They they don't have any proof that that actually happened.

So funny.

She's like, that never happened, Bronwyn.

And then Bronwyn brought it up again on the bus and she was like, OK, well actually what happened, Bronwyn, is I didn't ask you what happened at lunch.

I stated what happened at lunch.

Well, my one and my one thing about Bronwyn, and I like Bronwyn, but she is a rat.

Oh yeah.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, she acknowledges it at the end of the episode.

She's like, I'm a rat.

I'm a rat, yeah.

It's just like, stick me in the inside of somebody's chef hat.

I'm a rat.

It's me.

I love it.

I think that each and every single person is perfect.

Did you watch the Mary documentary?

No, Did you?

No, no, I, I I don't.

Really care to be honest with you.

I'm at the point where I'm like, if she's a cult leader, then she's a cult leader.

But like, I'm not trying to be your friend.

I'm just trying to watch this show.

Yeah.

And I think that like, as stated in the concept of this podcast, they're all problematic and that's OK.

That's my relationship with them.

It's like, I don't think that anybody's a good person.

I just think.

This franchise is wrought with darkness.

I just think it's kind of crazy that we're yeah.

Why is this the is this the sword you want to die on?

Like Whitney and her husband are running multi level marketing schemes like that.

There is a dock to be had there.

Like I'm positive there is crazy things that have happened in the Mormon church with all these Mormons.

Like there's just so much there.

I everyone has their shit.

I, I think it's just, I think some, some rat wanted to speak from her, from her inner circle about it.

And you know, there's always a podcaster that's willing to to talk to front facing camera for a check.

So I think that's how they got some other talking.

I mean, there were certain podcasters that were featured on the program and they didn't even get credit.

So yeah, that's so if you guys haven't seen this online, there's a group.

So there are people in that.

There are creators in the dock like literally like in a production studio, like doing interviews about it.

Those people kind of bother me.

But the but there are a ton of people who didn't even know that they were part of it that learned when it premiered because they were using their clips, which I think is really fucked up to be honest with you.

And I am really mad they didn't use my clips.

Let me tell you, as somebody who has been defending Mary like since the beginning, I do think it's fucked up that they didn't use any of my content.

I'm like, hello, I'm the premier Mary defender.

Like my thing with Mary is that like everything I've understood about her is actually from a Bravo docket episode.

They did a series about Mary and her church and everything that they talked about on their podcast.

Apparently this documentary says the opposite of like, I've always understood where Mary was really young and she was kind of just like told that this is what she needed to do.

And when you come from like a religious space where you're like being told that God has like anointed you and your grandmother's entire legacy lives on you like, that's it then, right.

Like, and really it was that she was getting bamboozled by this man who is no longer filming on this television show, you know, like, so I I always look at it from the perspective of like Mary is a young was a young woman when she was roped into this.

And she is it's not really her.

It's like these things are happening to her.

But apparently the documentary says not so much.

The documentary says she's more involved in it than you think.

And I'm like, if she's a bad person, I mean, I guess that's listen, Lisa Barlow told you to fuck off.

So like.

Help me.

Yeah.

Yeah, she did.

Yeah.

So, well, I'm going to trust the Bravo docket before I trust anything TLC puts to it's indication to be honest with you.

But 'cause they aren't TLC isn't, aren't lawyers and the Bravo docket, they do extended research and also they, they're not trying to be salacious.

They're honestly just trying to like spread information about like the real information about all of these things that we we love to follow.

So I definitely support them.

Yeah, I mean, Ceci and Angela's big thing is always like, this is just like the legal document that we're reading, and this is what these legal words mean.

And so like, that's why I love listening to them and they're like takes on all this stuff.

But yeah, I I'm not interested in a salacious documentary.

But I will say this, that if anybody from TLC is listening and they would like to send screeners to me or to Tom for us to talk about their programming on our podcast, please feel free to send it over to us.

Send it, please.

Oh wait, did you ask me for that?

The this isn't funny, but the clip that it comes from is funny.

You know, like the the woman that fell out out of the sunroof.

Yes, her whole family like talks about he's.

In the dark.

And they said that it was like horrible that they're they're like, you know, the death of this person like is now like, lol, like a meme, right?

But it's like, well, Mary didn't do that that blame Bravo for that, which they shouldn't have kept that in the episode.

Still stays so funny to me.

She's like, I'm excited to be here.

And she's like, did she survive?

And she's like, no, no, she died.

She died.

She's.

But I'm excited to be here and that little redhead Bobby, or whatever her name is, Robbie Bobby.

Bobby, I think it is Bobby.

Bobby Wild, Rose.

It's just.

Horrifying.

I really hate that.

Anyway, I think it's safe really for this chat.

Are you excited for traders?

So excited you can follow the podcast.

We'll be covering traders this season and covering Summer House.

Those are the two shows that I'm going to be covering recaps on.

When is Summer House back?

Like first week of February.

Wow, so we have the valley Shahs, whatever Persian time, Iran, whatever.

Summer house traders.

Honestly, we don't really have time for Beverly Hills Southern charm.

I don't watch that show.

Yeah, I, I kind of do.

I'm behind, but I that show goes down.

That's a, that's a, that's a smooth brain show for me.

Oh, it's a very smooth brain show and it's partnering smooth brain show, which is my favorite show is Southern Hospitality.

Where did you see Ali?

Luber might be on on Southern hospitality.

Uh huh, like she filmed this whole last season of it.

I don't think she filmed the whole last season, but apparently she was spotted in Charleston doing some filming for that.

Television Craig hooks up with Allie Looper.

She can't be with.

Allie's a very sweet, real, real life, sweet human being.

We cannot have her with Craig.

I need to see some filming of Allie with Venus as two star girls.

They are star girls first and foremost.

Yeah, you're right.

Wait, we didn't talk about let him cook.

Oh my God, let him cook.

Which if you guys don't know, is Kyle Cooks.

He's going on tour.

You can see him anywhere from Ohio to Los Angeles.

He's gonna be on tour.

Amanda's gonna be sitting in a stock room putting together a lover boy sweatshirt like things that they sold and and signing divorce papers probably it seems.

Lord, I hope so.

Yeah, I think I should.

And I looked at it and I was like, there's no, there's no cooking in New Jersey or New York, so.

Wait, did you see that he posted a Christmas thing without her?

I did.

I did see that everybody.

And then Amanda commented on it saying where's Amanda?

See, that makes me think they're still together.

Sadly, I think she's like you do you.

I don't want any part of this.

We have a business together and I want to have a family with your sperm.

So let's figure this out for the next couple years, then maybe they split up, I don't know.

Yeah, and it's very much possible that like, you know, there's a there's a time in your life when you get into your 30s where you're like, do I even really want a husband?

Like, do I even really need like, And then you look at it, you're like, OK, financially that makes more sense.

Like we have like, you know, a business together or whatever.

But like, do I, I mean, I guess, yeah, sure, Go, go out there, do whatever you want.

I'm just going to be like in bed eating, you know, Takis and talking to my friends.

Takis sounds so good.

OK, well I have to go eat dinner and you should eat some dinner too.

Guys go follow Dumpster Dive and Tom Hamlet at the Tom Hamlet and Good Judy's.

Yeah, Dumpster dive.

We just had Daisy from Below Deck on.

She talked a lot about the Salt Lake City crossover event, so that was fun.

And you can see full video episodes of the show on YouTube, so check that out.

That's amazing.

I'll be back this weekend to talk about traders with my brother Raheel, and I can't wait.

And if Michael Rapaport doesn't get kicked out on the very first episode, I'm gonna continue watching.

And I'm just gonna be really mad about it.

He's not gonna make it very far.

No one likes his ass.

He is the most traitor.

Traitor looking motherfucker.

Like they will absolutely get rid of him in two seconds.

Well, he might be your next mayor, Tom.

It's OK.

The chat is over.

The chat.