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What your fucking bullies around here?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

How is everybody's week?

Speaker 3

It's pretty good.

It's a very exciting week for me.

I have.

This is the week where I don't have to drive a kid to any sports.

Football season ended last week.

Soccer season doesn't start till next week.

It's pretty sweet.

Speaker 5

It's so much, so much sports teaching those kids bad habits.

Speaker 3

I might have to take a kid to be in a Santa Claus parade to support one of his sports somewhere in between now.

Speaker 4

And then Santa Claus Parade already.

Speaker 3

Yeah, good lord, because all the little towns start doing them now so that the floats and stuff are available, and they will when the bigger cities start doing them.

They have trouble getting people to sign up.

Speaker 4

This is like the day after Thanksgiving, you know, real Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the real one, the one where you guys celebrate your genocide by eating it.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

I don't see a problem with this.

Speaker 3

Oh, yes, a good way to celebrate genocide, as any I suppose.

Speaker 4

Listen, don't get mad just because you celebrated your genocide already.

Speaker 3

Ours was more of a soft genocide.

So we again, we hide behind the fact that since we're near you guys, we never looked that bad.

It's like, well, you guys did what, Yeah, but look what they did.

Speaker 4

It's all right.

We're already getting uh people saying that elections are being stolen.

Election day is not even over yet.

There like two states somehow wide sweeping voter fraud.

Speaker 3

Of course, I know, I don't know.

Nothing makes any fucking sense.

Our government put out a budget today and it's like, our liberal government wants to cut a bunch of stuff, and the conservative government is like, your conservative opposition is like, no, you can't cut things.

And it's like, wait a minute, what the fun?

Nothing makes any sense in the world anymore?

Speaker 4

No, never ever, do you have a good week now?

Speaker 5

It was Okay, I've just been working like NonStop, So you gotta stop that work and stuff.

Leam, I have to go back to work tomorrow.

Speaker 3

Oh really?

Yeah, it's hard to go back to work even if you were off for shitty reasons, even if you were on Like it's like, work is the only thing that'll make you miss having COVID.

You'll be like, damn it.

Remember when I was contagious and I wasn't allowed to go places.

Speaker 4

I haven't left my house in a week.

Speaker 3

That sounds pretty nice.

Speaker 4

I took the garbage down of the street.

That was my big adventure for one day.

Speaker 3

Are you bragging?

Is that what you're doing right now?

You're bragging?

Speaker 4

Pretty much?

It was, yeah, that's the only time I've actually stepped foot outside the house.

Speaker 3

Pretty good.

Speaker 4

My sleep schedule has been insane because I am very much a natural night owl, and you literally have nothing to do.

You just like I'm kind of tired, I'm gonna take an app I'll sleep for like six hours, and then I'll wake up and stay up till like five in the morning.

Speaker 3

I had that problem.

My whole life was like if I was off work for more than a day in a row of a default to being like my nighttime hours where I stay up all night, sleep all day.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

I think only when I had a kid did that stop being.

Speaker 4

Across the thing.

Yeah, even like you would think my dog would help keep me in check, but she didn't.

She'd well because she wants to get her fatter breakfast and she has not tried to like wake me up.

So there's days I've woken up at like noon and I'm like, you haven't even had your breakfast yet, and you're acting you didn't even like act like you want it.

Why you wake me up?

Of course I'm should have tried it.

I would have been like, shut up, I'm trying to sleep.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Anyways, yeah, COVID suns COVID.

It wouldn't enjoy it.

Speaker 4

It was not the first.

Speaker 3

Game on this one, I know.

Speaker 4

The first real real day of having it was like the worst.

Honestly, I felt so weak and could barely like I had to force myself to get out of bed to eat something because I was afraid that I wasn't eating something or drinking something, that it would make everything much much worse.

So, uh, very weak.

Before I realized I had COVID, I was considering if I needed to get myself to the er because that's how like we can fucked up I felt.

But then after I ate something, started drinking some more fluids, I felt a little bit better, and suddenly my brain was like, you probably have COVID.

So I had to have some chicken noodle soup and some COVID test delivered.

I'm sure that person because I did it through like door dash, so I'm sure that person was just like, well, someone's obviously sick.

Speaker 3

We're just leaving it at the step and running.

Speaker 4

Yeah, but man, I took that test, and you know you're supposed to, you know, do the thing on the whatever, and then it's like, then wait fifteen minutes and read the lines.

And I swear to god, ten seconds that fucking line showed up.

It's like, not only do you have COVID, you have like super COVID.

That this test is like you have all the COVID right now.

Yeah, no, so yeah.

The next day I felt like ninety percent better, and then I was just kind of worn out for a couple of days.

And then the last couple of days, I've just been well, I shouldn't go to work because I might still be contagious.

Type of situation.

Speaker 3

That's the best kind of sick, where they're like, yeah, it's the right thing to do for me to stay home.

I don't feel that bad.

Speaker 4

But oh, and then convincing myself like, well, I could get up and do all this stuff, but you know, I do have COVID, maybe I will.

Speaker 3

Don't want to stress your audio.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I don't want to push it.

Instead, I should lay on the couch and play Fortnite instead.

Speaker 3

Yeah, who's Noah got bored and just started watching YouTube in the background, like our conversation.

Speaker 4

It's his wife.

She's stilling no other story.

Oh I could tell so and I mean no being so interactive and so.

Speaker 5

You know, sorry, sorry, all right.

Speaker 4

I don't even remember what the fuck are we talking about this week?

Oh?

Robot movies?

Right, yeah, yeah, another picked robot movies.

That's about all the explanation you need.

Speaker 3

There robots shaped like little girls who kill or robots who kill that are shaped like little girls.

Whoever you choose to put.

Speaker 4

Sure uh, no, do you want to tell us about a Deadly Friend?

Speaker 6

Oh?

I sure do.

Speaker 1

Good.

Speaker 6

So Deadly Friend is a movie about a genius kid who's got a silly, silly robot named beet Peep that uh is also a psycho path From the very beginning of the movie, which is very funny, there's like, there's no question of that.

From the very beginning, They're like, no, this robot is mentally ill.

It's also a cool, friendly robot.

Speaker 3

It's a cool friendly It's it's it almost has that like mental illness from the eighties that were just it's so childlike and excessively strong.

For some reason, it's it's brain problems make it excessively strong.

Speaker 6

Yeah, it's it's Lenny.

Speaker 4

It's Lenny's situation.

Speaker 6

Yeah, yep.

Yeah.

So he's got his robot.

Obviously he's a genius and going to the college, even though everybody thinks he's in the tenth grade.

I don't know if that means he jumped forward or if they actually just hired an age appropriate actor for once in a horror movie.

Speaker 3

No, he's supposed to have jumped forward.

Yeah.

Speaker 6

Uh.

Anyways, all that stuff's going, he's making interesting discoveries.

He's kind of got one of those scholarships where he's doing like a student teaching thing, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7

Uh.

Speaker 6

He means the neighbor girl who is abused by her piece of ship father, blah blah blah.

He throws her down the stairs.

She hits her head and is brain dead, and he decides that there's only one reasonable corpse course of action, and that is too uh steal her body and replace her brain with the chip from his robot that was destroyed by Mama.

Speaker 4

From from either throw Mama from the train and or the goonies.

Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah, she's just mama, he just calls, Yeah, yeah, she's just she's his mama.

Which works.

I mean, she comes back.

But did we discover that mostly she's not Sam the girl next door.

She's mostly Bepeep the robot trying to come to the roops with being in a human body.

Speaker 3

Were clear, don't robot baby.

Speaker 6

But uh well, and this is true until the very end of the movie, in which Sam finally starts to come through and then they immediately kill her, which.

Speaker 3

Fun.

Speaker 6

But yeah, but crazy robot goes crazy and starts taking its robody vengeance through the body of a girl who's got uh lenny strength.

Yeah because because of robot brain.

Speaker 3

Because yeah, because if you put a chip in her brain, not only does she start acting like the robot, but she actually takes on the physical characteristics of the robot as well because of the chip in her brain.

So how that's how you get super strength is but having a chip put in your brain in it only worked.

Speaker 6

So this movie is delightful for a number of reasons.

I used to like it because I liked the fact that it was this corny, cheesy, silly horror movie that every time there's a death, the death is fucking so much more brutal than you're ready for because of the tone of the rest of the movie, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7

Because the first twenty minutes is just like what if a boy had a pet robot?

And then they're going around town and the bullies pick on the boy and the robot stands up to him, and then he meets the girl next door and she likes the robot too well, So then people just start getting fucking killed it's awesome.

Speaker 6

Well and here's the story.

Yeah, so I used to like it for those reasons.

On this rewatch, I think my appreciation because it had been a long time since I watched it, my appreciation of it has gone up even more because of some of the things we've watched on this show.

So I don't think I had the frame of reference the first few times I watched it to those nineteen sixties cheesy like familish comedy movie that we've kind of watched, and I was like, holy shit, that's what it is.

They just made one of those movies with exactly that tone, Like everything about it is one of those movies, just also a horror movie.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Well, yeah, there's there's some back and forth about why it ended up with those two tones.

Speaker 3

Well, and like it's worth noting that the studio told the director, we need stuff more like your last movie, and so all of a sudden, there's a pedophile that in it, there's a dream sequence with a burned man in it, there's a shock ending in it, and it's like, oh, look look what happens when you push them Look what happens when you push the wrong buttons on that director.

Speaker 4

Yeah, he wanted to make just like a studio like family friendly movie, and they were like, they did test screenings, and he's like, people are really disappointed because it didn't have any blood and gore like his last you know, because I think the movie before this was Nightmare on Elm Street.

Right, So so the studios like, no, no, we need to add more stuff in.

So they reshot a bunch of stuff.

They added all the gore scenes and then did the crazy ending where she turns into an actual robot.

Yeah, sus Craven wonted none of this, but did it anyway, because.

Speaker 3

Prime example that occasionally studios can be right, because this masterpiece is somehow, through the magic of the nineteen eighties, taking a family friendly comedy drama and converting it into a horror film just works.

And I can't explain that would never work in any other era, and we've seen them try in other eras.

Yeah, So, I mean the fruit this movie opens with they moved to town and he's got his robot that he's built himself, which is like super artificial intelligence, right, and we're like, okay, like we're already in a world where a teenager built his robot and they're like, because you can build this robot already, you get to go straight to college and you can help with the professors with their research.

And it's like, yeah, that guess that makes sense.

And then he gets to the college and the research is in biology, so he's a super genius in biology and robotic simultaneously.

Right when that happens, like, oh, we're doing the thing where if you're smart, you just know everything.

All right, I'm down to mention the robot looks like what would happen if the killbots never got struck by lightning?

It's just like it's got like the treads that eighties robots had for whatever, I guess because of Johnny number five.

And then it's just a killbot with a friendly face painted on it, no laser.

I guess it's brilliant.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Mama Fatelli is the uh, the lady that keeps everything that goes into her ron.

Speaker 3

Yeah, she just basically bullies the She just mean to the kids.

She that was an eighties trope, right, you had to have a mean neighbor and you just had like this one.

Just like at one point, their ball goes over the fence and she won't give it back to them, and she's like, well, it's on my property.

It's my ball now, which she later learns to regret.

Speaker 6

That's that's the checkoffs basketball.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we might as like, we might as well talk about her death scene because we know that's what's gonna happen, is when the when the robot girl starts her revenge.

She ends up going and being like, oh, I remember I'm mad at her over a basketball, so I'll break into her house and throw the ball at her head so hard that it causes a Scanners like explosion of the head.

The only reason this is better than Scanners is because then her body walks around for a few seconds with no head on it.

It's so good.

Oh my god, it's so good when that body is walking around like a chicken with no head on it, and then it just kind of collapses.

And then yet the movie pauses so you can have an applause break.

Speaker 4

We should point out Sam was played by the original Buffy.

Speaker 3

Yes, that's one of the ways in which this movie was inspirational.

Was it convinced the world that she would be good with super strength.

And they're like, oh, well, in that case, I was.

Speaker 6

Gonna say her her performance in this less inspired than her performance at Buffy.

Speaker 3

I think I would suggest, Yeah, she was still up and coming at this point and hadn't quite reached her peak, which was Buffy, and then she also existed in other movies after that, but she was just riding the fame Buffy.

Speaker 4

After that, Yeah, she became a trumper.

Speaker 3

So yeah, I don't care about that.

Speaker 6

I do.

It's how about that?

How about that fucking ending though, where is thing finally works and her brain's rewiring and Sam starts to come out and then they kill her.

Speaker 3

Yep.

Speaker 6

Gee, it's so dark like and it don't get me wrong, like there's the violent stuff in this movie and all that kind of stuff, but man, that that dark fucking ending is way darker than the rest of the movie.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's what's interesting about that is I don't think that's part of the rewrites, Like, I think that's how they intended the movie to end, because it was supposed to be like a drama slash comedy about the relationship, right, and so then the idea that he was finally able to save her but she dies anyway was the tragic ending.

And it's like, could you imagine if you took all the blood and guts out of this movie and you're just doing the like lighthearted like, oh, she beats up the bully that was picking on her boyfriend stuff, and then it ended that way.

That'd be crazy because yeah, at the end, like when it starts to come out that she's been taking her revenge, it's, uh, the cops show up and start chasing and all that stuff gets like really intense where it's like the cops are trying to shoot her and he's trying to stop the cops, and you get that one moment where the cop is aiming at her and he's grabbing the cops arm and another cop comes in and grabs him and holds him back and he's like, I know you don't want us to hurt her, but you gotta let us do our job.

And it's like, Jesus, this is what happened him to our movie?

Like where'd the fun Robot go.

Speaker 1

About?

Speaker 4

When he drugs his mom so they can escape to the morgue and steal the body.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well, by the way, like he drugs his mom so they can go steal a body.

He gets his buddy to help him.

His buddy is just the paper boy that stops by.

That's it.

They've known each other for like a week, kids, and it's like, can you help me drug my mom and steal a corpse from the morgue?

And he's like, I guess.

Speaker 4

So's well, anything for you, my riot or die friend.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's but even even part of that is like and this is just the eighties of it all, but like he's gonna drug his mom and go steal a body to save the life of a girl he's known for a week.

It's not like they haven't kissed yet.

Like it's like he just thinks she's hot, that's it.

And this is what the lengths he's willing to go to.

Speaker 4

I like that they come home and they're not even sure if she's still alive because he may have overdrugged her.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and the friend is really worried.

He's like, you might have killed your mom, and the kid whose mom it is it is like to be fine, I'm sure it's worse.

It could happen.

My mom's dead.

Speaker 6

So what do you guys think?

It's weird that in the movie, like it's set up so obviously that you know you're you're supposed to think oh, she's got weird robot brain.

But it's clearly set up in the plot that the idea is that he keeps saying that it's Sam, and that it's not Sam, that it's that it's bebe right, that's the whole thing.

And there's even like some fairly good acting on the weird robot Girl's part of trying to where Boebe's getting upset that he's not understanding because like, but at the end he's even yelling the name like you know what I mean, like the robots doing the thing that the robot did, and up until the last second of the movie, the main character still hasn't fucking figured it out.

I was like, isn't that I thought that was what the resolution of the movie is supposed to be, is him figuring out that it's not her, and instead it's like, oh, no, it is her.

It just it was just mostly robot up till this point.

Speaker 3

As a subtle reminder, the guy who can build robots from scratch and do surgery that leaves no scarring all at the age of fifteen is not quite smart enough to figure out that if you put the robot chip in the girl's head, the girl will act like a robot.

He can't.

He can't draw that conclusion.

And even when she starts acting like a robot, he still can't figure it out.

Like it's all very ridiculous in a good way.

By the way, none of this is criticisms.

This movie's perfect, but yeah, like it's perfect.

It's really funny that he's like, why is she acting this way?

And it's like, well, she was dead and then you cut her head open and put some computer parts in there, and you thought, what, there'd be no consequences to that.

Speaker 4

Well, I mean, to be fair, eighties.

Speaker 3

That's a solid point.

I have no counterpoint to that.

Speaker 6

You guys have a favorite kill because they're all pretty good.

Speaker 4

I mean, should we take the basketball off the table?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 6

Yeah, basketball is iconic, so basketball goes to the side.

Speaker 3

Yeah, sure.

I think it's probably the when she kills her dad in the dream sequence.

You know, the fun moment in our Happy Go Lucky eighties movie where the dad comes in and tes to rape his daughter and she she breaks off the end of that flower of oz and stabs it into him, so the blood comes shooting out the other end of the fus like it's She's created a fountain out of her gradually dying father.

I really enjoyed that.

Speaker 4

Moment about h Definitely eighties was the mom knowing she was getting the ship kicked out of her and not really do anything about it.

Speaker 6

Yeah, So in her defense, she did do the thing of like straight up talking to the girl and being like, you know, we could make this stop.

We could just call the police and this would be over, and all this in the girl doing the whole now it's my dad, don't need it, that kind of stuff.

And I kind of understand that impulse of a not wanting to go against the person's wishes, even whenever it's to their detriment.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and it may just be a nowaday thing where you could just leave an anonymous like, look, this girl's getting shit kicked out of her, and have them do aware welfare check.

Speaker 3

I also kind of.

Speaker 4

Think that was like a thing back then.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And also nowadays, like kids are more aware of the fact that they don't deserve to get beaten, whereas at that point, kids who were being abused were often like just thought it was normal.

It's it's anything involving child abuse is real dark, And this movie like that's the main plot point.

It's all very difficult to like get your head around, so I just try to treat it as he's an asshole.

It's a movie.

He gets his movie revenge, which is what he deserves by movie logic.

And I don't think about it in real world terms because makes me said, sure, I did think the scene where he did, like the whole like where she dies and the cops are there and he's like, I told her not to leave her stuff on the stairs or she'd fall down, and it's like it's just so cliched and so very nineteen eighty six, and I'm like, yeah, okay, that's that's what you would say in that time.

Speaker 4

How about when they're going there getting ready to pull the plug on her, and the dad just sitting there just like, well, I mean we could wait a couple more, No, no, do it?

Speaker 3

Now?

Speaker 6

Do it?

Speaker 4

Jesus?

Speaker 3

He really wants her dead man right?

It's yeah, I mean they're going out of their way to make the dad the huge villain of the movie.

Do they go a little too far?

Arguably?

Speaker 7

You know?

Speaker 3

Is it?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

There's no subtlety, there's no but.

Speaker 3

We get to watch him be murdered on screen.

Twice and then he comes back as like a Freddy Krueger want to be.

So we even see them disrespect his body once he's dead.

So it's like he gets his he gets what he deserves, I guess.

But it's the scene where they're burying him like behind like is that is it coal in that basement?

Like are we too understand that that nineteen eighties house still has like a coal furnace in the basement and that's why they have like the burying them behind a bunch of coal to hide the body.

Speaker 6

Listen, listen, that kind of shit went way longer than you think it would have.

All right, I mean I remember, if I remember correctly, there's like an insane thing where the first US president that was born in a hospital was Gerald R.

Ford.

Speaker 3

Fair enough, I'm not sure exactly how that connects to a coal furnace in this nineteen eighty six movie about a robot.

Speaker 6

But no, I'd mean, like technology wise, you'd think, like in my brain, that's like eighteen hundred shit, and it's like no, no, that's like nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 4

What was the old uh sort of trivia that Betty White was born before they sold bread and slices.

Speaker 6

That's something like that.

So that's crazy.

So she's not the best thing since.

Speaker 4

Slice bread exactly.

Speaker 6

She predates slice bread.

Speaker 3

Slice Bread's the best thing since her?

Speaker 6

Yeah crazy or was?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Anyways, what else about this movie was awesome?

Does anybody have any real criticisms of the movie.

I guess we should be objective, not just giggle because of the blood and go.

Speaker 4

No, I'm trying to think, like, there's nothing.

Speaker 6

I really like the opening.

I really like the opening scene where the drunk guy like breaks into their car to steal something and like Babe's just fucking choking him.

That's how the movie opens.

He's like, Amn, just gonna get up.

Speaker 3

It's it's so funny because the movie takes such a like if you went into this blind, which like I don't know how you could, but you would genuinely think this movie was gonna be about the robot, and the robot was gonna go onny killing spree, you would not predict that the movie's going to be about them putting a chip in the girl's head, which is so funny.

I don't know.

All that stuff at the beginning with the robot is so much fun, where they like they have to build him a ramp because he can't go up and downstairs.

We get to see the robot like moving furniture around because he needs to charge, and he's got to find the new outlets because they're in a new house.

Speaker 6

He grabs that dirt bike wholigan buy the balls.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the random like like adult hooligans who just randomly bullied teenagers.

That was that a big thing?

Like they're not robbing them, they're not, you know, they're just bullying them because they're mean.

Speaker 4

There's a couple in the town I grew up in fair Enough, and you know, the one time one of them chased me because he yelled at me for riding my skateboard down the street and I said something about his mom, and then you know, he took off chasing after me, to which then I had to grab my skateboard and just book it because I couldn't ride that thing.

Speaker 6

Like why.

Speaker 3

Skateboards is not a great means of transportation.

Speaker 4

For the most part, I don't know anything else.

Speaker 3

Well, we could talk about the controversy that has come up regarding this movie, which is the fact fact that we have a yellow tinted robot called BB and then in twenty fifteen we get the yellow tinted robot called BB eight, which means you guys are hiding BB twos and seven from me.

I want to know where my other killer robot movies are.

Speaker 4

Technically, he's a orange.

Speaker 3

Listen, you can't tell it.

You can't tell me that you can tell the difference between those two colors in nineteen eighties technology versus twenty technology.

There's no way that it's a coincidence that BB eight looks as much like BB.

There's no way it has to be on purpose.

Speaker 4

We know JJ Abrams is a huge Phantasm fan, so it's not hard to believe he wouldn't be a fan of other horror films.

Speaker 3

I mean, God, I want it to be true, because and I really want me I really want to like discover BB's two through seven on a shelf somewhere and watch all those movies and watch the progression.

Speaker 4

Maybe a I can help you out.

Speaker 3

I know, I don't want to.

Oh, I don't want.

If there's anything we learned from these movies this week, Brian, is that we don't want to use AI for these types of things.

Come on, didn't you pay any attention whatsoever to these two films.

Speaker 4

No, I don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I totally worked out in both in both situations.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, other than the lots of innocent people ending of dead.

Not innocent people, but innocent enough that we probably shouldn't be murdering them with robots.

Speaker 4

All right, Doug, do you want to tell us about the updated version of this story with a little movie called Megan.

Speaker 3

Megan, which is almost a remake.

Having watched these back to back, so uh, nice family is driving along schmuck.

Two of them are dead.

The little girl in the back from the back seat has to go live with her aunt.

Her aunt, as it turns out, as a toy designer who has been to signing an AI doll and eventually brings the doll home to live with them, with the idea that the doll will be a protector for the little girl is one of the one of the sort of prerogatives that it's given.

But it turns out when you tell AI to protect people, then it kills other people, and eventually there is a showdown between the AI robot and the old fashioned robot that is in the garage that just had a fun scene earlier in the movie so that we would know it would be there to fight later on.

Speaker 4

Definitely not a name of the robot, wasn't foreshadowing.

Speaker 3

Right, Yeah, So basically then the little girl has to choose between her aunt and her robot, and wouldn't you know what, she picks her aunt.

So that's the movie.

I mean, the plot is a little bit more convoluted than that, but really it's little girl gets robot, robot starts defending little girl, gets darker and darker and darker until all hell breaks loose, followed by when the little girl finally has to make the decision to take the human side over the robot side.

Speaker 6

It does deal with some interesting ideas.

I like it.

I really like the idea of Okay, yeah, this is a really cool piece of technology and it seems great, but maybe you actually don't want a toy that a person can mistake for being real.

Yeah, there is, because children don't have the emotional maturity to understand.

Speaker 3

Yeah, there's the whole thing, the whole subplot about if we don't want the toy raise, if we don't want like the toy raising the kid, we want the toy to be like a tool that the kid can use, and when you make the toy too realistic and too advanced, at some point, it's taking control.

And obviously that's commentary on all of the tech that kids have today, right, it's it's it's done pretty well where it's done in like a fun way, in and over the top way, but it is it is the idea that a kid can become more attached to that toy than they would be to a human being.

There are definitely children in today's society who are more attached to their tablet or their phone than they are to their parents, because that's what's raising them.

Speaker 4

I agreed for so much for anybody.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I hadn't actually seen that before.

Speaker 3

Oh really, okay, so what did you think?

Then?

Speaker 6

It was much better than I actually thought it was going to be.

I really enjoyed the kills.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I enjoy the creepy Megan Robots stuff.

I get, like, I get why it's creepy and that they're you know, using Uncanny Valley and all that kind of stuff to make you uncomfortable, but to me, that feels cheap.

Does that It's like if it's like a jumps like shitty jump scares in the movie.

I'm like, yeah, okay, well it's freaky, but it's also freaky because you just took an easy thing that makes everyone feel freaky and you just said, aha, it freaked you out, and you're like, no, you didn't.

You just did the thing that everyone knows bothers people.

Speaker 3

I don't know about that, Like I think I think they did a good job of I think I guess it's just agree to disagree.

I think the idea of having it look just human enough that you can kind of think it looks human without but you always kind of know it's not.

I think that works in the in the context of the movie, and it makes sense and I don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 6

It's something, uh the other word, the other word thing do what did you like her dance?

It's I don't people, Why are people obsessed with the fuck?

I don't give a ship about the dancing.

It's fucking It's just so fucking dumb.

I just don't give a ship.

Speaker 3

Like on the dance, by the way, like we can agree on that, like like whatever.

In the context of the movie, she dances a little bit, it's fine, But the fact that people act like that's what the movie's about.

Is absurd.

It's a few seconds of the movie.

Speaker 6

Yeah yeah, I was getting ready to say, you know, it's more important than that in this movie.

The little boy who's a piece of shit getting his ear ripped off, that's that's what this movie is.

Speaker 3

Like, Uh love that.

I love watching that kid get his ear ripped off.

And it's awesome too because she kills a dog before that, So you're like, oh, we don't want the audience to turn on her too much, so rip the ear off a small child.

Get the audience back on board with Megan, right, Like that's what you're right to do.

Like it's really smart filmmaking.

Speaker 6

Although again, they did one of those things where they went to I feel like they went too over the top with that kid, big and piece of shit?

Does that Like you didn't need to go to that extreme for the audience to go, yeah, fuck that kid.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but it's made for a younger audience too, right, And so maybe for us to hate that kid doesn't take that much.

Speaker 4

But for adults they hate children, it's pretty easy.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Like yeah, but like a lot of I think for a lot of other people, it's like they still want children to live and they don't want they don't want them to be hurt and stuff, and it's like, I guess, but like, you know, we derive a certain amount of joy out of watching that children die that might be unusual to mainstream audiences.

Is that does that make sense?

Like trying to make they want an average person going into the theater and sitting down and watching this movie to be happy when that kid dies.

And it takes a lot to get other people to want a kid to die as opposed to us who are just like like I kind of want to watch a kid die right now and there's nothing going on.

I'm just talking to you guys.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I was gonna say.

The other thing that fucks me up in this movie is so the actor that plays her boss.

The only place I know that actor from is that he's on a daily show with John Stewart.

He's like a fairly regular person on there, and I'm like, this character's throwing me way off.

I was like, I only know this actor for one thing, and his delivery is funny and all that, and he's kind of doing the same delivery, but seriously, and I'm like, this is strange.

This is a strange thing that's happened.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's it's not the actor's fault.

I don't think it's just it's just the fact that he's only known for one thing, and all of a sudden he's being cast in a completely different role.

Speaker 6

So here's another thing.

Do you guys find it weird that the assistant guy steals the the Megan files at the beginning of the movie, like Jurassic Park forever fucking reason, and then that actually does not play into the story whatsoever.

Speaker 3

That's because you haven't seen the sequel.

Speaker 6

I mean, yeah, if I was making a sequel, I would probably use that as the impetus is the thrown away plotline that was never fucking used in the movie for whatever.

Speaker 3

Yeah, they did use it as a major plot point in the sequel, in the shitty Shitty sequel.

Speaker 4

I saw Doug watch that today and I was like, really.

Speaker 3

Because I was happy after I watched this and then it's just hovering there for me to watch.

So anyways, yeah, the sequel sucks.

We'll discuss it later, but yeah, it's it's it is weird that he's doing that, and it's like, what were they setting up I'm not sure.

I guess the idea that they want it in the background of people's heads, that maybe he the idea that if Megan is dangerous and then that technology could be out there and could end up actually in the hands of like have millions of them out there kind of thing.

Is that what they're trying to imply?

Speaker 6

Well, I was kind of wondering.

I almost feel like maybe that there was a scriptory rite during the making of the movie that happened where because there's also a couple of moments where Megan does the whole uh downloading thing, and like I thought it was going to maybe be revealed that he was fucking with it and corrupted the code or something.

Oh yeah, but that never I don't know.

It's weird that that never pans out.

There's also the weird stuff where I get that it's just supposed to be implying that Megan's upgrading herself, but you never actually learn any of the things that she's bringing in.

And maybe that's intentional because it's supposed to kind of be about AI and that you don't understand what the algorithm is doing and all that kind of stuff.

But yeah, I don't know.

There just feels like there's things there that were It feels like they were meant to be explained and then weren't.

Speaker 3

I think this is just despite how good this movie looks like, this is just like it's like a guy with not a lot of experience making movies telling a fun little story and not necessarily tying up all those loose ends as well they could be in a slightly more professionally made movie, And like, part of me is glad if that happens, because I don't think that kid's ear gets ripped off in a in a more traditional film, But I like, you know what I mean, where somebody was going back and triple checking the triple checking the script for like loose ends rather than concentrating on like how are we going to kill this little boy?

And you know what can Megan do to him?

Speaker 6

She kills that web lady with a powerwasher.

That's pretty good.

Speaker 3

Do we think the neighbor in this movie is a direct reference to the neighbor from the last movie, the like bitchy old lady with the big red hair, Like maybe.

Speaker 4

I think the most trope that everybody loves is it?

Speaker 3

Like I mean, I guess to a certain extent.

Yeah, Like, I mean, it was an eighties trope, and there's definitely this is definitely an eighties callback film, right, so she.

Speaker 4

Could say she's also a throwback to the uh neighbors on alf try to discover him all the time.

Speaker 3

Yeah, there's reference.

I can see that reference because she keeps like, she keeps saying, like, you got the two little girls living there, and she even tells the cop like that one little girl keeps looking out the window in the middle of the night, and like, whoever the main character is.

She's just like, it's it's a toy.

It's right there.

You can see it's a toy.

Like why does this lady keeping So Yeah, I guess that's true.

I prefer to think it's a direct reference to the other film.

Speaker 6

It is kind of The escalation of the neighbor is kind of interesting because at the beginning of the movie you kind of get the impression that, Okay, the neighbor is like a shitty neighbor, but they're not overtly like malicious.

They're just kind of a shitty neighbor, if that makes sense.

Yeah, and that maybe this could be resolved if what's her face was a more personable person instead of being a robot person.

Right, yeah, but then the second the dog dies, that neighbor becomes just a fucking ultra hunt like it it the turn is so hard of her, going from Okay, maybe she's not that bad, maybe there's something else, you know what I mean to know, she's just awful all the time, every second.

Speaker 3

You know, But I think, like you can understand how a person would react if their dog was killed and you believed it's their fault, that's the person who did it kind of thing.

Speaker 6

Sure, true, sure, sure, I don't know it just it just seems like it goes to such an extreme all of a sudden.

Speaker 3

But yeah, but yeah, no, like and it's interesting you brought up like it is at the beginning.

It is they're using that rivalry to kind of show us what's wrong with the ant character, how she has trouble relating to people.

And it's like, Okay, your neighbor's like spraying some stuff off her driveway and it's landing on your driveway, and like the neighbor offers like, well, I could lend you my host so you can clean that off, like and she gets all mad and all that it's like, well, yeah, like it's a little annoying, but you could handle it better kind of thing if you were if you were capable of human interaction.

And that that plays into the whole storyline of like the little girl having trouble relating to the ant and therefore being drawn more towards Megan, and that that whole plot we already discussed about how she's relating to the doll more than to the human, which I think is a I would just take that a step further and goo.

It's also a commentary on parenting from the eighties or from today, where in the eighties they just like would turn on a TV and put your food on a tray and walk away, And now they're handing kids smartphones and just ignoring them.

And it's like, well, yeah, we're shocked when the kids spend all their time on a phone, but also what are you doing with them to keep them mid like you know what I mean, Like try have you tried spending time with your children instead of it?

Have you tried actually relating to them?

No, wonder, they're getting attached to other things.

So what were you going to say?

Speaker 6

No?

Speaker 3

I think I cut you off.

Speaker 6

That was seconds ago.

I can't remember, Oh.

Speaker 3

Fair enough, did you pick up on a bunch of the eighties references?

There's direct RoboCop references and terminator references and stuff which I think are fun, Like it's just a fun It's a subtle thing to like the audience of, like, we all know what we're doing here.

We're all having a good time playing with robot movies.

Speaker 6

Yeah, NaN's real.

Speaker 3

Let do.

Speaker 6

Like I said, I was much more pleased with the movie than I thought I was going to be.

Again, I do feel like maybe maybe this is a general theme of the writing of the movie.

I think like everything's maybe slightly too much so.

The the ant's neglect of her niece whose parents have just died, I feel like is over the top because I feel like they try to be subtle at some points and that at other points you're like, okay, like chill the fuck out, Like she's not like, what is she associopath?

Like a normal person would not look at this child and go, yeah, well that's awkward.

So fucking fucking fuck my niece and her you know, dead parents.

Speaker 3

You know, Okay, so let let what what are your What's an example of of an actual moment because she never says fuck my niece and parents into movie.

So what's an actual example from the movie.

Speaker 6

I mean there's but there there are multiple times where she's like, oh, she's really upset.

Yeah, but I kind of need you to come to work and do this other thing.

Yeah, but you could be you could be sad later.

Little girl whose parents.

Speaker 3

Just like I know.

But I think I think that that's more realistic than you're giving me a credit.

For people who are obsessed with their work, will they will just look past everyone else's feelings because they think their work is the most important thing.

Speaker 6

Well sure, but also like bringing the girl home and being like, oh, yeah, I don't have any toys for a kid, that's awful.

But generally the response is okay, well you go get some toys.

Yeah, but that's not the response.

That's never the response of anything in this movie.

She's always like little Girl's problems, and then we get pretty quickly into the robot and then she's like, robot can do all that shit.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

No, I agree.

I agree.

She's not a great parent figure in the movie.

Speaker 1

She's bad.

Speaker 6

She's a bad parent.

She is like they go out of their way to put you against the social worker.

That's check again.

But at the same time, I'm like that social workers should take that girl away.

Speaker 3

See I don't, I don't know.

I wasn't against the social worker.

It's just I guess that's like, I guess that's just the difference is here as I'm like, oh, yeah, that social worker is trying to help, and like, I think that ant Is is a person who never should have had a kid and all of a sudden has one and is trying to do her best, and her best just is not good enough because she doesn't she keeps going back, defaulting back to who she was before she had a kid.

And you have to be a different person when you have a kid, then you do when you don't.

Speaker 4

It just plays back into her like she doesn't know how to interact with people properly.

She understands like robots and robotic things, but she doesn't she doesn't know how to deal with the child who's upset her.

Her way to cure this, as we see in the movie, is give her a robot and then we all see how that turns out.

Speaker 6

Oh that's all I was gonna bitch about the megan singing stuff.

Whatever the one scene where she sings.

I can deal with that because whatever she's supposed to be a living doll that is modeling herself to entertain a small girl child, which I'm like, yeah, yeah, it would sing, but god damn it, they have to They like did it like multiple times, and I'm like, fucking stop.

This is this is why I'm against the murder robot, not because she's killing people, but because she sings.

Fuck that robot killer.

Speaker 3

I'm not a huge fan singing.

But did you guys, do you guys remember the cricket dolls from the eighties.

It did remind me of that, so now they were like, yeah, they were like human sized dolls and you put a cassette tape in the back and it would talk to the little girls or sing to the girls, depending on what cassette you put in.

Speaker 4

Remember cricket, I remember Teddy Rexpin.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Cricket was I guess the girl version of that.

But it was bigger than Teddy Roxpin, so it it looked like like it looked like a five year old girl was that big.

And if you took your brother's heavy metal tapes and put it in your sister's cricket doll.

It would scream metallic adder an upsets of course, so some of us used to switch those tapes while nobody was looking.

Speaker 4

It's not important, Doug, what are you doing?

Don't worry about it.

Speaker 3

Yes, anyways, back to the movie, it's yeah, I don't.

I guess I.

I don't have the same problems with the character being a bad parent as no it does.

I think it's what the movie's saying is she's bad at it.

Speaker 4

And.

Speaker 3

There are plenty of people who are that bad at being parents and who are incapable of prioritizing the child.

Speaker 6

Again again, I agree with you.

I get that the movie was going for it.

My only commentary is that I in which maybe it's an issue with this as a modern movie, and modern movies are made for people who have short attention spans and don't like details.

So everything is just fucking too much, all the time, over the top, and you have to be spoon fed every fucking thing in every fucking movie.

But weason, I just that's what That's the way I felt about everything in the movie.

It's like, Okay, well, no, I get it, you don't need to like go five steps more.

And then they go yeah, we do, and then they go five steps more and you're like, okay, I get it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so you wanted them to take two steps back from that plot line and dedicated to the guys stealing the files beginning of the movie.

Figure out what you do?

Well, number of.

Speaker 6

Characters, well, I mean, like, any subtlety anywhere in this movie would have been pretty good.

There's not a single like, I don't.

I don't think anybody's gonna come back on a rewatch and go, oh I didn't notice this subtle little detail of the background.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 6

It's like, no, no, I didn't.

You know you saw it.

You saw every fucking thing that they wanted you to see.

Speaker 3

There was no subtlety in this movie.

We agree to that, right, I don't think they were going for subtlety.

I don't.

Speaker 6

But can we just say the dog attack scene is fucking hawful that the little girl Actually the part where it's biting Megan's almost even worse.

And that's a doll And it still makes you want to pee my pants because al cress of that dog is and it's just so realistic of you know, a child getting mulled by a dog.

It's like, oh, I don't like it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I again.

I think what they were trying to do there was make you understand why the dog had to be killed.

But it might have almost gone too far.

But I don't.

I enjoyed it again because I enjoy watching children get bit by dogs.

Speaker 6

So hmmm, see, I think that's it.

Speaker 4

That's it again.

Speaker 6

I was getting ready to say, see, that's a disagree.

I think of all the things that I love watching a child die in a movie, that's that's good stuff.

But uh, but.

Speaker 4

This person clipped out and said to the authorities.

Speaker 6

But child, I was getting ready to say, child getting mulled by a dog in a movie, even if they don't die, I don't want to see that.

Speaker 3

Well, that's because of your protectionism of dogs and movies that has nothing to do with the kid.

Speaker 6

Well, no, I think it's also because it's like a relatable thing, you know what I mean.

Like if I see a child transform into a manica doll, be thrown off of a building and and bounce off of something hard, that's very funny to me.

Speaker 4

Wait wait, wait, wait wait, but is it part of the plot that the child turns into a mannequin dog?

Speaker 6

You know, you know, you know what I mean, Like they throw and it's a rock and it's very funny.

Speaker 4

That's fucking funn saying there's a movie where a child turns into a mannekan doll is thrown off the roof, Like know what movie that is?

Speaker 6

Yeah, I would also be into that Mannequin twelve, the Mannequin child, But that I'm meant to you because I can't associate with it.

Getting bit by a dog.

I can associate with.

I understand how awful getting bit by a dog is.

And I've known people who have had children that have been like horribly injured by a dog and things like that, and it's like too real.

I don't I don't need that.

I don't need that realism in my horror.

I want fake horror.

Speaker 3

All right, Well, it's a good thing you never had friends whose kid got their ear pulled off the side of his head by a robot, because then you wouldn't have been able to enjoy that scena.

Yeah.

Speaker 6

See, that's accurate.

Luckily, there aren't a lot of robots pulling ears off people.

Speaker 3

What about when the robot kills everybody, and that it kills the assistant guy and then the boss guy and leaves their bodies in an elevator for everybody else to find.

That's super fun because you get that great moment of like the pr person trying to convince a crowd, like when they're supposed to look shocked and when they're supposed to look happy, and then in the background, just the elevator opens and there's just bodies in it, like a scene from Dona Dead.

I really like that.

Speaker 4

I do like the zea where she pulls the handle off of the paper cutter yeah, and I'm just like, fuck, yes, this is what I want to see.

Pull that off and use it as a weapon.

Speaker 3

I do I do for an high tech office.

Speaker 6

I really I really appreciate the guy's reaction though, because it actually is like the appropriate human reaction of he's like, oh, there's the doll, what's it doing here?

That's not normal?

And then it grabs the thing and he goes no, it's like it's got a knife, you know.

Speaker 3

It's the perfect reaction.

I think it's really well done, and I respect him for running away the way he did.

Speaker 4

All Right, anything else about Megan we want to talk about?

Speaker 2

No.

Speaker 3

I think it's just it's a really fun horror movie.

Of just like like it's it's a throwback.

It knows it's a throwback, so it pays just enough tribute to the eighties films that it's aping.

It's you know, the characters are there, the acting good enough, like you know what I mean.

Speaker 6

It's it is a little weird that the ending of this movie and the ending of Real Steel are basically the same movie end.

Speaker 4

I've never seen.

Speaker 3

Real Steel end with like the Alexa in the house being taken over by the robot.

Speaker 6

It does involve the the little kid with the control thick.

Oh really you were talking about like a well, that's the whole plot of Real Steel is that it's a training robot that can mimic human motions.

So Hugh Jackman's character is a fighter who can't fight anymore, so instead they put him in the control things that he fucks up other robots as a robot.

Speaker 4

So it's giant sized rock'm soccer robots essentially.

Speaker 6

Yes, Real Steel is rock'm soccer robots the movie Like, no one will convince me otherwise ever.

Speaker 3

No, I mean that's what it looked like.

I never saw the movie, but that's certainly what it looked like in the previews.

Speaker 6

But yeah, yeah, the little you know, the little girl pulls out and then she's got the gloves on behind her hands and she knocks her knuckles together in a weird superhero movement, a moment in a horror movie, which, well, good, I don't appreciate.

I don't need those weird superhero poses in my fucking horror movies either.

Keep the like genre blending good sometimes, don't don't need that much of it.

Stay away, keep keep your shit out of my genres.

Speaker 4

Which, by the way, Real Steal is based on a short story by Richard Matheson which always floors me when I think about it.

Speaker 6

Listen which was actually which was actually called rock 'em.

Speaker 3

Talking, and he read the short story bright.

Speaker 4

No, but I'm sure it is like zero point one percent of what the actual movie is like.

Speaker 3

There are robots that box, that is it.

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Speaker 4

Thanks, We'll be done to you, all right, you by watch anythings this last week?

Speaker 6

Even more supernatural.

I'm on season three, episode seven.

Season three so far a little weird, I'm not.

I'm not sure if season three is my favorite.

Season two was definitely better than one, but three is just weird.

But I also feel like that's because ninety percent of the plot is just Dean's going to be going to hell in a year, So let's find things that distract everybody from Dean going to hell in twenty more episodes.

Speaker 4

I'm on season four.

In the episode I just watched right before we started recording, was a black and white episode where there's a shape shifter who takes on the shape of the classic Universal monsters.

Speaker 6

I am very excited to get to that episode.

Speaker 4

It was a lot of fun.

Apparently it was there Halloween episode for that year.

Speaker 3

It's weird that that show would have a Halloween episodes.

Every episode folloween.

Speaker 4

Episode of a different show.

Yeah, the opening credits and the end credits are all done and like that universal style, and it's a lot of fun.

All right, what did you watch?

Speaker 3

Dog?

Speaker 4

Well?

Speaker 3

I watched Megan two point zero.

Speaker 4

Yep, that's so I was curious to hear about that because I thought that looked like garbage sounds of it.

Speaker 6

I agree.

Speaker 3

It's it's a sequel made by people who thought the dancing was the most important part of that first movie.

Like it's literally so one of the sub one of the opening plots in it is that there's this other guy who has developed like a almost like an exoskeleton type suit for people who have like people in wheelchairs or whatever, so help them walk again.

But then of course he has to get up and dance to show it off kind of thing.

And I was like right away, I'm like, holy shit.

We're like a few minutes in and I'm like, god, I'm already upset at Yeah, it's just it does that.

It does.

It does kind of an interesting thing where it implies that the first ever AI that gained sentience is from like nineteen eighty four, and it's been locked away, but it's still been growing and learning this whole time, and so now it's like super intelligent.

But then there's like a third AI that's like an actual robot that the government developed to go kill people.

So now it's trying to free the first AI.

So then Megan they have to put her in a new body so that she can go fight the robot that's trying to free the AI that's going to take over the world, and it's like, what the fuck are you doing?

It was like the whole point of this the first movie is it's this nice, like simple movie where it's like, what if we put AI in a doll and then it tried to kill people?

You know, So if you want, if you want her fighting, you want I understand the impetus to put her as like she's the good guy fighting the new evil robot.

Now, Like yeah, and I understand that logic, but if you're gonna do that, just you just fucking do that, right.

You just literally have a new robot.

The new robot's gonna gonna hurt the little girl.

So Megan is like still protective of the little girl, put her in a new body, she goes and fights the new robot.

It's not you don't need all this unnecessarily complicated stuff.

You've got all this like backstory with like fucking like the aunt is I think she's dating this guy.

I'll be honest, I didn't pay that much attention because the movie lost me real early.

But she's like dating this guy and it turns out he's part of like an organization that wants to control all of these different things, and you're like, I don't care, and like the FBI keeps showing up and like investigating because they think she developed the robot that's gone, and I'm just like I don't care.

I don't care.

I don't care.

Like why, It's like you're so wrong on this, Like you're of the humor is working in it the way it worked in the first movie.

It's way too complicated.

You're not spending enough time with the characters we actually want to see, which is the aunt and the daughter and Megan from the first movie.

Those are the characters who want returning right, and you're spending all this time with all these other characters who I don't want to get to know.

Some of them get killed.

There's too many fucking AI's just a mess, just a what a colossal failure.

It's it's a real George Lucas situation where they're like, what if we gave you ten times the budget and he's like, oh, I could do all this stuff, and it's like, don't do all that stuff.

You didn't want to do all that stuff.

You don't need to do all that stuff.

You can do the normal stuff.

So pretty frustrated.

Speaker 6

That I re edited Megan.

I added to Robot the first movie, and you can't watch the old version of the first movie anymore.

Speaker 4

It's the robot combat.

Speaker 3

And again, no, honestly, I didn't even really enjoy it because it all feels very kind of like over the top and glossy.

Yeah, and I'm just like, I don't it's not violent enough, I guess would be my point.

Like in the original movie, like we didn't really get too deep into it, but like the final fistfight between Megan and that other robot is very violent and rough, and it feels very dark and very kind of horror movie ish, and here it's like they're in a sequel.

They go for like more like action movie stuff, and I'm just like, no, that's just the wrong instinct and you shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 4

I remember when it came out and it did horribly at.

Speaker 3

The box office because the trailers look bad.

Speaker 4

The trailers looked like pure garbage.

I remember Jason Blum said something like, yeah, we thought Megan was kind of like Superman, that we could just drop her into any genre of film and an audience would be word for it.

And I'm like, I don't even think you understand your statement you just said, because that is the stuns either.

Speaker 3

First of all, no, you can't do that, and second of all, don't try that with Superman either.

Jesus.

Yeah, well, I guess speaking of superheroes and different genres, I did watch Marvel Zombies this week.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 3

It's very action oriented, and I personally don't get really into animated action, which I've said that before.

It's not a criticism of the show.

It's not poorly done or anything.

I just personally find animated action to be less engaging.

So to have an action heavy show, I would have preferred more more time on character development stuff.

But I also get that I'm watching a cartoon called Marvel Zombies, so they're probably not going to do that, you know, Yeah, like for you've seen it, Brian, you haven't seen it?

Speaker 6

No?

No?

Speaker 3

Yeah, So like it's come all a comm and the new Hawkeye and someone else team up and they find like iron Heart, iron Heart, Yeah, they find a thingy, and the idea is, well, if we get this thingy and outer space, it'll call the Novacore and then Overcore will come help us.

And then now they're on a road trip to find a way into outer space.

They meet up with all sorts of characters from the Marvel universe.

You have like Blade, who is now the avatar of Kanshu.

If I'm saying any of that right, but it's.

Speaker 4

Like Blade Night, I believe is what they call him.

Speaker 3

What they call him, so he's he's Moonnight meets Blade, which I enjoyed that character.

I liked when they met up with Spider Man and Man and all that because it's all fun.

I liked what they did with Hulk, who was now Hulk had like absorbed like weird and finy Stone power and stuff.

They did a lot of fun things where they like recreated stuff that had happened in the traditional universe.

But what if there was zombies, So you had like zombie Thanos fighting in like fighting the battle and then Thor shows up the same thing that happened in Finity War, which was kind of fun, except zombies.

You know, the plot, like I did think like so the whole thing of I guess spoiler alert, but they're traveling cross country, they get finally get to outer space, and then it's just like, yeah, then over, of course not here now, then of course here to keep you on Earth and keep Earth basically quarantined, turn around and go back and start a new plot, please, And it's like that felt a little cheap and unearned, I guess, but then it also led to like the final battle, which is Wanda with a zombie army that she's controlling attacking our heroes, which is fun.

Let's be honest, and you get lots of like zombified heroes showing up.

Zombafied.

Giant Man was maybe my favorite because it was like the Michael Douglas version of Giant Man fighting Spider Man, but one of them is the zombie.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

I remember being all right.

I remember feeling like four episodes was like the perfect length for it.

It didn't need to be any longer.

Maybe even could have been one episode shorter and I would have been fine with it.

Speaker 3

I think, Yeah, depending on what they did with the extra episodes, I would watch more.

Yeah, But I just I felt like this was kind of an encapsulated storyline that fit the time they had, whereas if you know you'd have to add, you'd have to Could you just do another episode and add more stops on their road trip and they meet different heroes?

Speaker 6

Sure?

Speaker 3

Like could they have met the X Men and some of them are zombies?

Sure?

Why not?

Like you could do that?

You know, there's no reason why you couldn't add an episode in where they meet the Fantastic Four.

But one of the Fantastic Fours is a zombie like, sure, but did it need it?

Speaker 6

No?

Speaker 4

So technically in the comics it's read Richard's fault the zombies take over.

Speaker 3

They don't did they explain?

Did they do that?

And what if?

Did they explain why zombies are there?

Speaker 4

I don't remember.

Speaker 3

It's just I think it's just what if zombies is the whole thing?

Speaker 6

Well, and I think there's been multiple what if zombies and I think they had different outbreak things.

Speaker 3

Oh okay, so yeah, I mean, like if you, I think people already decided for themselves if they want to watch something called Marble Zombies or not.

I don't think that matters what we say.

But but like I think if you're if you want to watch it, you won't be that disappointed if you're if you're on the fence.

Is there anything in it that that you're like, Oh my god, you have to see this.

No, not really.

Speaker 4

So it is a continuation of the episode of what If.

So, yeah, you want to make sure you're caught up on the dire story, go watch the what If episode?

Speaker 3

Ye?

So, what else did I watch?

Oh?

I watched the bake of the Hand that Rocks the Cradle.

Speaker 4

There was a remake.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's a Hulu original showed up in Disney Plus this month or last month.

It's not good.

I didn't know what a Hulu original was.

It turns out it's much closer to a Hallmark movie than what I want.

So and I don't know that that's a story I want to see told through the lens of a Hallmark movie.

And the story is pretty similar to the original.

I haven't seen the original in a while, but it's just done worse.

I don't know.

And they do it.

They do some stuff where they change the motivations of the characters and they add like some more backstory to why this person is there and stuff, and it's like, okay, but I don't care, and I don't necessarily want that, and again like you're just it's really weird because the movie has like a very like after School Special kind of tone to it, and then yet there is just enough violence and foul language that you couldn't show it on TV.

So I'm like, so then what are you doing?

Like it's that classic thing of like make up your mind?

What do you want to make here?

Because if you if you want to if you want this to be a Hallmark movie, go make a Hallmark movie.

If you want this to be like a dark thriller, then make that.

But you've made neither one of them because you don't know how to walk the line properly.

So so yah, I don't recommend that.

I'd probably I don't know, Like what is Hulu?

I don't have I live in Canada.

What is Hulu?

Speaker 6

Is it?

Speaker 3

Like?

Do they make movies that are designed to be shown on TV?

Or no?

Speaker 4

No, Hulu was a I say was because they're phasing it out.

It was like a joint uh, a joint streamer that was essentially built by ABC, CBS and Fox.

I want to say so it was essentially a way for all of those three companies to come together and be like here is a platform that we can put all of our TV shows and stuff on like the day after they air on TV, and we can put all of our movie libraries on it, and you know, we can all with profits, but we all don't have to have our own individual training services.

And this was like towards the beginning, like right after Netflix had started to become big and stuff, and then I believe at one point CBS sold their steak off and got out of it, and then ABC bought Fox.

So Disney just owns the whole thing now, and I think they're just phasing it out to make it almost like a new subscription tier on Disney Plus.

Okay, so like the brand will still be around, but the actual app part of it will go away.

So they would make some of their own original movies, and I don't know, they made some like the horror ones that I've had friends that wrote and directed some of them.

Those are pretty good, but yeah, it's kind of it's a crapshoot like anything else.

Like some of it's good, other stuff is terrible.

So this is just somebody thought this was a great idea and it was terrible.

Speaker 3

Yeah, all right, So I don't know, I don't.

I don't recommend watching it.

If you want to watch that story, go watch the original.

It's better.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it's just because.

Speaker 3

It's kind of like because we are at the point now where nineties movies can get remade, and nineties movies have their share of problems, Like it's some of them could use an upgrade.

And that was that was like a story that I thought could be told through a new lens, but well didn't.

Speaker 4

Didn't Ernie Hudson play a mentally handicapped man the original It's been a long time.

Speaker 3

They framed him for trying to hurt the little girl.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Interesting.

Speaker 3

Yeah, anyways, there's no there is no like mentally challenged in the new version.

They don't go there there.

Yeah, and it's like they're like, Ernie nailed it perfectly.

We can't redo that, so let's just let it go.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

And other than that, everything else I watched was I had Halloween Day off and it was raining, so I watched Trick or Treat, Halloween four, and Halloween five back to back to back the whole day.

Two good movies, two good movies, and Halloween five.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean Trick or Treat is perfect.

It's every time I watch it, I'm like, it's it's better than I expect it to be.

And I'm and I'm like already eagerly anticipating watching it, and then I watch it and I go, man, I love it so much.

It's so fucking perfect, and I'm just I'm so happy when I watch it.

I don't know everything about it is great.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I got thrown out of the Halloween spirit by being devastatingly sick, so I watched nearly much or anything on Halloween.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Well, I was like it was weird.

So I woke up that morning and I had the day off, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, should go for like a walk, get some exercise and stuff.

And I opened the front door and it's raining, and I was like, or I could brew a pot of coffee and put on or Treat.

And I'm just sitting here like like just cup coffee.

It's like whatever, nine in the morning and I'm just watching Trick or Treat, enjoying my coffee, smiling, just happy as can be, just.

Speaker 4

Watching Sam stuff that lollipop and that leaves his mouth.

She thull out the candles pumpkin.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well, she disrespected Halloween tradition exactly, so it was a yeah, it was it's oh man, I don't know what's left to say about that movie.

We I think we did a commentary on it once, so we don't.

You know, if people want to know our thoughts, you can find it.

I'm sure.

Speaker 4

Yeah, but it's We've teased a sequel for a long long time.

Yeah, and I hope maybe get.

Speaker 3

On at some point, but I don't know how we happened.

But I don't like.

This was also a movie that remember it took like two years to make it out after it had been made for some reason.

Speaker 4

Yeah, because the universal stupid.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, that's why Hollywood is stupid.

Speaker 1

That's a right.

Speaker 4

That means Crampus is coming up.

Speaker 3

Yep, it's almost time.

What was funny is on the day after Halloween, I was looking at the theater because it was the fortieth anniversary of Back to the Future and they were playing it, so I was looking to see if there's any times that worked for me, and then I noticed they were playing Christmas Vacation as well, and I'm like, it's November first, and you're putting Christmas Vacation in theaters.

Yeah.

Speaker 4

I don't know, wait till halfway through November.

Speaker 3

Yeah, but the amount of people who were like, like I've seen there's people in my neighborhood they're Christmas lights up November first, like they like they got up early in the morning, took down the Halloween stuff, put up the Christmas stuff, And I'm like, that's it's a little far for me.

I haven't even taken down the Halloween stuff yet.

I might not have taken down the Halloween stuff by the time we record next week.

Who knows.

That could be laziness, though, well that's always that's always acceptable too.

But yeah, I don't.

I don't unless you want to get into a detailed discussion of Halloweens four and five, I don't know that we need to do.

Speaker 4

We did a commentary for Halloween four.

You can just listen to that.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

As much as Doug keeps forgetting that we've done.

Speaker 3

It every year, it's listen, I forgot.

I did not forget any of the years before we did it.

I only forgot the years after we did it, So it's not that many years.

And five is just a hot mess of like it's such it's kind of funny, like it's there's the kills are okay, Like all the stuff with Michael Myers is okay, it's everything around it that's weird.

And then just an ending that clearly was not thought out, not well done.

Speaker 4

So it just sucks because I'm like a continuities now with some stuff.

And the director they hired decided, Eh, we're not gonna worry about that shit.

Let's go to the Myers House, which is a giant, like three story Victorian house.

And it's like, no, it's not.

Yeah, damn it.

Speaker 3

So it is.

One thing I noticed at the end of five is they do the thing where they tricked Michael into coming back into the house and it's all a trap and they throw a big net on him and stuff.

Yeah, and I'm like, oh, so the twenty eighteen remake was ripping off five and two, both of which it criticized in its dialogue The fuckers.

That'd be all I watched, though, get do you watch anything else?

Speaker 4

The only thing I really watched was I watched Nobody too.

Oh yeah, I was a fan of the first one.

Was it should check this one out.

I mean, if you like the first one, it's more the same, which is both a good thing and a bad thing.

I guess Bob Odenkirks still beating the shit out of people and whatever else.

I guess the problem is, like, since since we've seen the first one, like the sort of surprise element, not that was a surprise because they kind of showed all the trailer, but just the idea of it.

You watch it the first one and you're like, oh, okay, great, and then then when you do it again, it's like, well, yeah, I know, and even though like it's okay, it still is just you've already seen it, so you're kind of just all right with it.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 4

They go to like a water park, Christopher Lloyd blows some shit up, which is a lot of fun, but like it's not I wouldn't say not to watch it, but yeah, it's it's it's about the same.

Speaker 3

So that, yeah, I don't know that I needed a second one of those.

Speaker 4

Yeah, mean either.

But and then I was like, well, let's uh, let's keep this going.

Let's watch that movie The Killers Game with Batista as the one where he gets like some diagnosis that he's gonna die and so he hires a hitman to take him out so that his life insurance will pay out to his girlfriend or whatever, and then turns out, oh, no, we made a mistake.

You're not actually dying.

I can't call the hitoff, so he has to kill a bunch of hitmen.

So I'm sooner watching it.

I'm like, all right, all right, all right, yep, yep.

And then I'm sitting there just like I swear I've seen this before, and I just was like, well, maybe it was one of those where I started it and then got like fifteen minutes in and was like, yeah, I'm just on the mood for this, and then didn't finish it.

But I just kept going and going and going.

I'm like, I've watched this.

And I got halfway through the movie and I pulled up the Wikipedia just to read the plot description of how it ends, and I'm like, I watched I've watched this movie before, and that shows how much of an impression it made.

Apparently if I completely forgot that I had watched it.

So yeah, so it's whatever, all right, Obviously it was not enough to make an impression of my brain that I've already watched it.

I tried to watch it again.

Speaker 3

That's yeah.

Speaker 4

So I just stopped and did something else.

Speaker 3

But that's reasonable.

I should have done that when I was watching Megan too stup, do something else.

Yeah, good advice to have at the time.

Speaker 4

Because I started like predicting stuff and I'm just like, all right, I've seen this.

I had to have seen this.

Pulled up that read how it ends, and I'm like, it ends like in a stone building of some sort.

And at the end in the description it's like, yeah, they're fighting in like an old church, and I'm like, oh, well, yeah, that's it.

So I was just like, all right, I don't need to finish this.

I've seen it before.

It obviously wasn't that impressive.

Speaker 3

That's funny.

Speaker 4

So yeah, I don't know.

Take that for a Take that review for what it's worth.

If you want to watch a movie and forget you've watched it, check out killers game.

Speaker 3

It's rarely considered a compliment.

Speaker 1

Here's a brief glimpse of some of the truly fine pictures we've got to go in the near future.

Speaker 4

All Right, Doug, even though you programmed two months of the show, it is time for you to pick movies again.

Speaker 3

I was forced to program one of those months, by the way, sure, but we did we let know a pick this week, and he was kind enough to pick killer robots, which he knows is a favorite topic of mine.

So I will return the favor and do something no Noah likes next.

Next week, we're talking all about hookers.

Yay, Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers and Franken Hooker, because why.

Speaker 6

Not any reason to watch Franken Hooker A good reason.

Speaker 3

I haven't seen it so long I can't even tell you if I like it or not.

Speaker 4

So I just watched it like a month ago.

Speaker 3

Oh well, they're watching it again.

Speaker 4

Apparently.

Speaker 3

Stop watching movies that are on the list.

You won't have these kinds of surprises.

Speaker 4

The funny thing is, I don't even know if I realized it was on the list.

I've never seen Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers before, so that'll be a first time.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Like I saw Franken Hooker once, probably twenty years ago.

I'd like a festival screening.

For some reason, they're replaying it.

Yeah, so now I'll now I'll remember whether I enjoyed that screening or not.

Speaker 4

Well, no, you can tell your wife that they picked they picked hookers for you because you love hookers so much.

Person cocaine, I'm sure there was plenty of cocaine that was being used when these movies were made.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think it's reasonable to conclude that.

Speaker 4

Got the word.

Speaker 3

So, Brian, are you gonna can you go back to getting hookers now that your COVID is cleared up?

Speaker 4

Probably I have to show them, like a negative COVID test beforehand.

Speaker 3

I don't know the idea of a hooker checking like, sorry, you're gonna show me your test before?

It seems very funny to me.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Funny thing is I texted like on Sunday and was like, hey, uh, I can't find any definitive rundown of what the what the protocol is for coming back to work after getting COVID, And I don't remember, like I think our COVID protocols and our employee handbook which is sitting somewhere on my desk collecting dust ever since I got it.

So it was like, so, I'm planning on coming back on Wednesday because that'll be a full week, and it says I should like quarantine for five days and that gives an extra two.

And my supervisor I was texting with he didn't know the protocols either, So there's lots of like, well, I mean feeling better.

It's like yeah, He's like, well, I guess it's good enough.

It's like all right, if you say so, because I didn't know if I needed like a negative COVID test or whatever.

But everything I'm reading is like, oh, you can test positive for COVID up to like thirty days afterwards, but you're not contagious.

You just still have the virus and stuff.

Speaker 3

I don't think there's very many places required any kind of testing anymore.

Speaker 4

And cant God damn it.

And I know, you know, so much has changed since uh, you know, we got the vaccines and as we've gone on, we've learned more and everything.

So I just didn't know what the protocol was.

And apparently nobody else is either.

Speaker 3

Oh I couldn't tell you if there's still a protocol in my work or not.

I don't know.

Speaker 4

Apparently an email went out because of me, because of that.

Speaker 3

Stay away from Brian he is.

Speaker 4

He's like, oh, Steve, who is like our designated HR person in the building, he sent out the COVID protocol and everybody over email and I was like, okay, cool.

So it's just it's just like, oh, it's good we're all on top of it.

It shows how long it's been since somebody at the office is COVID.

Speaker 3

That's funny because it's like it was such a big deal for so long, and now it's like, yeah, people don't even people don't even think about it.

Speaker 4

And it's like, well, oh yeah, I mean I haven't warn a mask in how long years at this point.

Speaker 3

No, I've had to go to the hospital last week and I didn't even have to wear one there.

Speaker 4

So yeah, I did have to have somebody to deliver groceries.

After my two cans of soup and two COVID test delivery, I had to have someone else deliver more groceries because I was like, I need stuff to eat.

Speaker 3

I think you're probably fine to just go out with it now, but maybe, like I mean, i'd probably be the polite thing to do would be to wear a mask, I think, But I don't think you're required to anywhere.

Speaker 4

Well luckily, uh the app around here had like fifty percent off your first grocery order, and I've never done it before, so I was like sweet.

Speaker 3

I always theorized that if you if you get my fear is if you get your groceries or like anything fresh.

They're gonna be the worst one.

If you're a piece of chicken.

They're like for the worst piece of crap that nobody would pick out off the show.

Speaker 4

No, no, no, That's why I went easy.

I just went like some frozen pizzas, some chips, chips and dip.

Speaker 2

Some.

Speaker 4

I did pick up some grapes.

Those weren't too bad.

A couple of cans of like other types of soup.

So it was stuff I didn't have to worry about making like an educated decision about, but makes it a little bit easier.

Speaker 3

Then gone or.

Speaker 6

Sleep, have a sleep.

Speaker 3

Told him he gets to talk with Hookers next week, and he just ran to go watch the movies.

Speaker 4

Do you have a favorite I'm sick meal?

Speaker 6

Noah, Uh, gatorade there's a big one.

I do gatorade and then uh usually soup soup.

Speaker 4

Okay, do you have anything Dougger is about saying if I'm sick, I actually like to do shots of whiskey.

Speaker 3

I find it's the most helpful thing.

Speaker 4

Just burn that virus at it.

Speaker 3

Somebody fucking recommended it to me back like I was like in university and one of my professors recommended it to me like I stopped him and I'm like, look, I'm sick.

I've got to go home.

And he goes, you know what you do, go home and have a glass of whiskey.

It'll help.

And so I'm like, all right, he seems to know what he's talking about.

Speaker 6

And it works.

Speaker 3

So now I try it every time ever since.

Speaker 4

Then give my cold a whiskey.

Speaker 3

It weirdly seems to help more than anything else.

The whiskey has much more of an impact on you when you're sick than if you were sober doing the shots.

You got to make sure you're not driving anywhere after.

Speaker 1

But please remember to replace the speaker on the post when you leave the theater.

Speaker 6

And I hope it's time to say good night.

Speaker 1

We sincerely appreciate your patronage and hope we've succeeded in bringing you an enjoyable evening of entertainment.

Speaker 4

Please drive home carefully and come back again.

Speaker 1

Sue, good night,

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