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Well, welcome back to the DCL podcast, your podcast to cruise a little smarter.

I'm your host Lake, and I'm joined by my co-host Christy, how are you today?

I am well, Lake.

How are you?

I am doing okay.

We were recording on a Saturday, which is long Yeah, but it was gorgeous outside.

Oh my gosh, so beautiful.

Orlando is definitely showing off this week, Yeah, I had a really great run today, which All week.

Well, you're also doing that after work.

This is very true, and is a huge factor, actually.

But talking about weather, we've got some chilly I am really excited.

I am really excited for this one, too.

This is a new to me show, for sure.

I know we've done a show on this topic before, Expedition Cruises.

Exciting.

Very exciting.

Very unique as well, and we are talking about So cool.

Which is high on your bucket list, believe it I know.

We're going to talk about the Drake, and I worry I don't know how that's going to work, but besides Yeah, did you all just see, too, that quark?

Is it quirk?

Quark video that was posted, and all these news Of the ship was going nuts.

You'll have to go and look it up, because it's Bit concerned.

I mean, more than I already was.

Well, let's get into it.

We would like to welcome our guest to the show, Courtney to the show.

Courtney, how are you today?

I'm great.

How are you guys?

Doing good.

Excited to get into this.

So why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself Disney and cruising background.

Sure.

So my name is Courtney.

I am the founder of Midlight Labs, which is And I have been cruising with Disney since 2022, We started cruising with Disney after COVID, Eighth cruise in just under a month.

My mom and I got really into cruising with Disney.

We cruised with other cruise lines beforehand, Convenient that the Disney Wonder comes to San Trip out of there.

So we've done a lot of cruises out of San Diego, On ships for work.

So I spend time on research vessels, so that's Been in 20, 25 foot seas relatively regularly.

But the ships that I'm on are usually a little So I've got a lot of experience on ships, living I was really excited to get to do this.

Okay, that needs to be a whole separate podcast.

Well, pretty interesting cruising background, To discuss Disney cruises.

We're here to talk about a National Geographic What intrigued you to this cruise?

And why did you book with National Geographic?

And did you do any like comparing with other Were there any other ones that were like, kind Get into it, Courtney.

I blocked off like three hours for this.

We booked with National Geographic because our By Disney.

And Adventures by Disney closed their Antarctica And so we were like, okay, well, we want a company And it's gonna have really good customer service.

One of my good friends had sailed with Quark And so they were also an option for us.

As we priced things out, my mom kind of really And I think that's why we ended up going with So we did a lot of research.

We went through kind of what are the different What are the options?

We looked at Ponant because Ponant was who Disney Adventures by Disney to Antarctica.

And we found that there wasn't a lot of information The best information, honestly, is in the Antarctica So that's where I would start.

If somebody is looking to go to Antarctica, Beginning to or from bucket list to realization, There are Antarctica cruise operators who are Provide insight and information into there.

So once you decide on Nat Geo, you also have Do Antarctica with them.

You can do a cruise down, fly back, but it looks Including cruise down and cruise back.

How did you land on the itinerary that you chose?

And if you were to book it again, would you I wanted the credit sailing Drake, so I knew Not let my mom choose otherwise.

That being said, she was very worried about A Drake shake or a Drake Lake Drake shake is Rough seas Drake Lake when it's super calm and You never know what you're going to get until And so because of that, she decided that she So we did the sail and fly, so we sailed across I don't know if I would recommend flying the Lucky, the cruise after us got very unlucky.

So we got an extra like full day in America The people after us lost a day and there it Times during their season at least.

And so it's not an uncommon occurrence.

And there were people who came in late and left So with that, that is a big part of why I personally Drake if you don't have to.

If you are short on time because the fly the Are usually a little bit shorter.

Only do it if you have to.

And I definitely wouldn't recommend flying in Potentially, at least if you're flying out, Not going to generally have you leave two days So with that, though, I would really, I would I would 100% recommend sailing there and back.

Your schedule is going to be much more locked You're not going to have volatility in flying You're not going to miss extra days of work.

You're not going to have to reschedule all of Us.

We had to reschedule everything on the way back.

Okay, so let's go back to the beginning.

You've picked your expedition.

What type of information was given to you before We were given a chance to, so when we got our To be staying in Ushuaia for a night beforehand.

We were told we needed to arrive at least one From there, we would embark the National Geographic The Drake, have four days in Antarctica, but You're going to be going because that's really And what the weather is.

They try to optimize how many cruise ships are There's a lot of really strict regulation internal They are the ones who they self-govern and they As possible.

They're a huge force for good down there.

You don't know exactly where you're going to You leave on the ship, and when you fly out.

You mentioned you have to get in a day early.

You fly into Ushuaia.

What was that process like and what did you Before your exploration actually began?

We actually flew in I think three or four days In Ushuaia and it is a long flight to get down So we flew from LAX to Buenos Aires and then There's EZE and AEP and the flights to Ushuaia out of one and the flights in from LAX Come into another.

So you have to transfer between the two airports There's plenty of time between them, but we To help us find a car service to help us get There we saw there was a great bus service that One airport to the other.

Straightforward.

So definitely do the research if you're looking We took a private vehicle because there were Had some lunch at the second airport and then First flight was I think it was 12 hours and If I remember correctly.

I might be mixing those up.

It was a lot of flying and by the time we got And we pretty much went straight to our hotel Why don't you go ahead and give us a highlight And then we will get into this expedition.

Okay.

Ushuaia, we actually really spent a lot of time We were staying at not one of the main hotels It to be super loud.

So we were staying up at kind of up in the mountains Also because they had triple rooms available.

But the hotel had archery, it had forest bathing, All of this stuff was just included with the So we just kind of stayed up there a lot of We did go down into the city and we walked around One of our friends went and did one of the penguin Life and we hadn't budgeted for that so we didn't But we really just loved walking around Ushuaia There are so friendly and English is very prominent.

You don't have to worry about it if you don't They speak pretty good English and anything It is still a tourist city.

There is a Hard Rock Cafe.

We went and took a look but we did not eat there Food.

So that is the level of tourism that is in Ushuaia.

You mentioned needing a triple room.

I don't think we discussed who sailed with you.

We haven't discussed that yet.

It was my mom and one of her former co-workers To Antarctica.

She used to work with penguins when she worked And so she had a dream to get to Antarctica So we brought her with us and it was the three So that's why we were looking for triple rooms To look at other lines as well kind of going We needed a ship that had triple rooms available Not every ship has triples or there may only Well you spend a few days in Ushuaia and then it is time to embark onto the National Geographic Explorer.

Tell us a little bit about the embarkation process, Then what your thoughts on the ship were.

So we were transferred to another hotel the Hotel where we met with our expedition leader And that's where we kind of got our onboarding, Where we got the information that the ship would The ship was due to fly people back and the The Drake back to get the ship back to us so So we were told well normally we do a short You guys are going to get a little bit longer.

So we went to bed, got up the next morning, Prepped in our rooms ready for them to grab, Into Tierra del Fuego National Park which was Blad, they took us all around, we had guides, We ended up taking a little catamaran tour with Go straight back into Ushuaia from Tierra del We got to go into the Beagle Channel a little The landmarks.

So that was another really cool thing because Were at the lighthouse which was a really cool Unique because I don't think anybody else from From there we had a little bit more time in Getting the ship ready and we were able to get And it was very straightforward, you get on Your room and your bags may not be there yet, Some point.

It was very casual almost but it was individualized, Party comes on, there's somebody to greet you, How to open it, show you how to do everything Cruise lines, they don't automatically lock To lock and it was a very different experience A free-for-all.

This one was you get escorted to your room, The bathroom, how to work everything, and then The ship itself, the Explorer is one of their And the fanciest but it doesn't need to be, It was extremely functional.

We were on I believe deck three, we were just Store all of your gear for Antarctica and your To the main landing where there was food and Up was the lounge as well as some of the forward It didn't feel outdated but it definitely didn't Like the hot tubs and this and that but you're There's not a need for that I guess in my view.

That's not why you go to these ships, you go Antarctica and you want them to be comfortable, It's time to sleep, and you want to be able And the ship did all of that.

What kind of cabin did you book?

You mentioned needing to be able to sleep three Here it looks like these are actually pretty They felt really refurbished, there was plenty There to be nearly as many outlets as there On the entire ship.

There are not many triples on these ships so Because we knew we needed a triple.

So we were in a room that normally has a king As well.

So that's how the triple works, two beds next How royal does it where they can kind of separate Well you get aboard and then it is time to sail Time enjoying the ship, getting to familiarize What was kind of life on board like during this And then you also mentioned that you know your Was your experience with that?

So we had a bit of a moderate Drake shake as Talking to our expedition leader and he said Is measured on a scale of like one to ten or Look at the waves in meters.

So six, you're Waves going up and down.

The challenge is sometimes Which means you're going side to side and you're Stabilizers to help with it, but you're still Being said, while you're crossing the Drake, All of the mandatory briefings you need to go To make sure Antarctica stays pristine, so that Any gear that you have brought and you make You have to scrub out any Velcro.

There can't They recommend don't bring things with Velcro.

Any crumbs in your pockets, you got to make I live in Southern California, so it's hot, Needed snow pants, really.

So that made it a They have lectures going on up in the lounge, The room.

So if you're not feeling well and Watch the lectures on the TV and the sound gets Really nice.

When it comes to traversing the The Drake.

They put up ropes to help you walk Tossed all over.

They have seasickness remedies They've got green apples.

They have meclizine.

It is, they've got, and they are very, very Medical services still happen.

They just say, Let them slide.

How fascinating.

Could you imagine?

I have a picture I'll send you guys of my friend You discussed needing to go through your gear Some gear.

Did Nat Geo provide you with a list Pack?

They did.

The gear that they provide is pretty, Passage, you are very, very tight on weight.

To bring all of your stuff back.

They can recommend Snow pants, buff, waterproof gloves, rain gear, You bring a lot more.

And sometimes the biggest Pair back their list a little bit.

They don't You bring mid-layer, base layer, top layer, That some of the stuff you can rent, you can Hiking poles, and they do provide you a parka, Don't have to worry about bringing a jacket To Ushuaia, you can be very cold until you get Was there anything you packed that you ended Did not pack and wish you had?

The things that we didn't need, we only didn't Would say.

So our weather was surprisingly warm.

Was in probably low 30s, mid 40s, up into the At all.

I was basically in running tights and Parka every day.

And that was all I needed.

Goggles and big heavy buffs to keep our face Then immediately decided they were more trouble For me.

And I think that was a learning thing Stretchy buff rather than a really heavyweight For when it's very sunny.

The things that we So we could write our name on our parka.

Fascinating.

So then approximately how long It sounds like this may not necessarily be an It's more exact than you'd think, actually.

On board, they say it takes 40 hours to cross That's how much time you can expect to be sailing Let's talk really quick about your meals.

I For something to eat?

Were there any activities Out on land?

Yeah.

So dining was almost more buffet style.

What items you wanted.

If you had allergies, Which was really, really nice.

We had people To the chef and the staff and they're like, No cross contamination.

Easy day.

The other Had a nightly happy hour where again, you don't That were an up cost, but most of them were You wanted a cocktail or a mocktail and they Feel like you were having to, you know, drink Had cocktails, they had beers, they had sodas, To kind of cap off your night and talk through After you finished dinner, there would be a That day.

And that was led by the expedition On the next day's plan.

So what time you would Zodiac groups, because they could only send Then they had to come back and the next group Was gone over in the nightly briefs.

And then You, your Zodiac group was not going.

So what That meant sleeping in, at least for me.

Sometimes Wildlife, Antarctic history, Antarctic explorers.

Is they have alternating Zodiacs and then lectures You know, tea in the afternoons and snacks and Downtime just to like catch your breath, shower, Was not a shortage of things to do, but there And the normal stuff you would find on the cruise Vibe, really.

It's more of, it's more of a, It's a very educational vacation.

So if you One of these.

Awesome.

Well, then you start to get towards I will say that I probably don't have the best At the time.

So I missed the first views of Of the lights closed.

But I remember hearing Our first sighting of land in two days and everybody Even like, I pulled up my sunglasses and my I need to see it.

And we had, I, it was, it What we had been banking on.

So on the website, they show a picture of you Like that?

Yeah, I'd say so.

You can get really close to The Zodiacs.

You can get really, really close Them a bit of space because as we know from Under the water than they are above the water.

To make sure you are not nearby.

Icebergs can flip.

Icebergs can flip.

You can always tell because When the part from the underwater has flipped A golf ball.

Okay, so why don't we go into your retelling To experience some of what Antarctica has to We were told we're going to do an evening landing.

Normally dinners a little later on these ships, To go and we're going to go to Barrientos Island Penguins and we would get to kind of see what Already been split up into our Zodiac groups Be 100 personnel on shore at any time.

This Ship gets kind of split in half.

So half the The ship gets to go.

So they put everybody in B which was our group get to down to the Zodiacs So we got in our Zodiac and we sailed over to Saw was a bunch of Gentoo penguins and some Group so they don't have their big nose yet And they let us go and kind of hike around with Were very kind with their hey don't don't be Lectures and they kind of tell us hey here's Range.

Biggest thing is don't get in their way.

If they need to go places you get out of their So we were finally getting to go and we're there A naturalist to go and see a couple different And then you sail back to the ship.

And I think For this first landing.

Of course once we got Fresh steak sandwiches on the back deck of the Our first time setting foot in Antarctica with You mentioned being being told to stay away Or want to go and then being able to hike around You could hike then like it was very much okay It was extremely regulated is I don't know if It's more of a here are the areas that we know Attacked by a seal.

So it's more of a safety Here's where we are allowing our people to go Basically foreign foreign objects coming and No additional biosecurity or anything.

So especially Which we might get to in a minute talk about Didn't have a huge rookery on it.

It was it Bit of the other landscape.

There was a small In penguin guano.

I'll put it that way.

Intriguing.

Did you get up to?

So our second day or kind Area we had a morning zodiac ride.

So that meant We were just going to be going around in zodiacs.

At this time got on our zodiac.

We were actually Photographers at this point.

So that was really With us taking photos of whatever we saw.

And And it was at Spurt Island which was known for icebergs.

So we were getting to go and Just sail through these really narrow channels Little chips of ice the entire surface of the To see some of these really big icebergs and These because it's too dangerous.

But that afternoon At Palo Verde point where there was a big penguin At least for me when for my height it was very Could take we did not because I am not exactly Fell flat on my face which is a big no no you Can avoid it because of biosecurity.

That was Of orcas just we saw a huge orca pod just swimming Your like biologist dream.

I know this and between Absolutely amazing.

Well let's get into your My list of questions.

Our next day was Mickelson Mickelson Harbor.

We went to Dano Island and We got to spend the morning with Gen 2 penguins.

You get covered in guano there was a lot of The penguins there's a very narrow path that It's a little bit slippery.

So this is where As you walk penguin guano gets basically tossed Do you get penguin guano off.

Well you go splash Back on the Zodiac.

It's part of why they want This Dano Island is an older research station.

Colony and there's also a bunch of old whale Still there from like 50 60 70 years ago because Disintegrate they're just there.

The afternoon Of the entire time because that was where we Polar plunge.

And that was that was where I Icebergs in ice flows seeing penguins porpoising The distance.

It was one of those where I just Moment of the entire trip and doing a polar You can tell that you're really just so the Is really wonderful.

So for the polar plunge Suit and go in those water?

Yep.

So why?

Because Are different based on the line you go with.

Have you clip into a rope.

Nat Geo doesn't have Why?

Because what happens if you like go into A diver in a dry suit ready to go.

So because Nat Geo.

So yeah, the thing that nobody tells Is waiting for it.

Because this was the day So it wasn't cold.

The water was cold, but it The floor.

So you're standing on these metal Waters and your toes start to go numb and they Feet is that was the worst of the entire thing.

They say, see the bubbles, jump past the bubbles, Into the where they launched the zodiacs or Back in and then they give you a shot of vodka At a patch.

But you have to jump into Antarctic Chance?

It was shocking.

I mean, I was absolutely Me the most.

I've never liked polar plunges.

It's not been To do a polar plunge in Antarctica.

Yeah, it Kind of when you jump in the water.

And knowing There is like you have to get your way back My mom did.

My mom put her feet in.

They allowed Bit as we were getting out.

The rest of us just And they take pictures.

Oh, my God.

Sounds amazing I think hearing the polar plunge was less scary I do have a video of it.

I did manage to get That I would highly recommend bringing a GoPro.

On that also isn't freezing?

Like just put like Get to the really metal part, it's actually You're standing for like 10 minutes.

That's And everybody else, you know, get out.

They It's warmer out here.

Why?

I'm not even cold.

Nope, I'll use this to like stand on.

But I'm It's warmer outside of the water.

Crazy.

Well, Or your next activity.

Yeah, our next day was Day where we were going to Whalers Bay.

Whalers This is an old whaling facility where the buildings Major incident of graffiti earlier in the season.

Graffiti had been where the tag had been placed We ended up going to a location known as Neptune's And it wasn't long.

And it wasn't hard per se.

Sure that you really needed your hiking poles High muck boots.

And those are not great for One where we got to hike past a couple seals Mile, I think.

And we got to look down and it There's this beautiful window.

So that was our Going over and seeing some of the historical Of that.

And then the afternoon, as we were Edinburgh Hill, which, you know, I was like, It's a big rock.

I'm like, okay, it's a big Or the Giant's Causeway, it's like that, but Almost half dome shape thing, but of these beautiful It was really cool to get to see.

And that was 0 We didn't do any landings there, we didn't do 521 00:33:02,1000 --> 00:33:07,080 The ship.

And the whole ship got real close.

We're just like, we're really close to that.

We were supposed to fly out, we were all packed 0 The night before, so they could get it all tagged 525 00:33:20,1000 --> 00:33:27,1000 In the lounge all day when we sat in the cove 526 00:33:27,1000 --> 00:33:28,280 next to a I believe there was a Russian facility And possibly a Chinese facility.

So some people To the Russian, you know, Federation government There was some form of cell reception there.

We're just going to sit here and wait for instruction Could do.

They gave us semi periodic updates, Nothing they could do.

A lot of us just spent Were waiting to hear from shore side of is the Volatile is because of the weather on King George And it is a visual landing.

So it's only during Antarctica is fantastic because you have daylight Waiting and sitting and twiddling your thumbs, That's a big part of it is the first day we Of a room so they can make them up for the incoming Eight o'clock that night, seven o'clock that You're going back to your rooms for the night, Potentially, because we were in a triple room.

Of the bed, they'd move the two beds together, Rearrange some stuff, but it was it was fine.

For this, and they told us, hey, there's not You guys might as well do one more landing, Unthinkable for us.

So we got a whole extra Zodiac cruise.

And so we went to Fort Point.

Perspective for me.

And what I mean by that Until our bonus day, because it was cold.

It was rainy, it was sleeting.

And we'd had None of that the previous days, we'd had clear, Sitting in the front of the Zodiac, because Get wet, because I'm in full waterproof gear.

Watching these incredible, otherworldly mountains of the sea and going and Seeing the beautiful icebergs.

And then they And we see this massive rookery covered in guano.

Haven't mentioned that yet.

It's a very strong, Exited our room in the morning.

And it's a very Are hit in the face by the guano scent.

And It was gen two and a couple of chinstrap penguins.

Surviving in this cold, frigid weather.

And The baby penguin that I will send to you guys Favorite picture of the baby penguin, where Probably going and getting food to bring him He just looks so depressed.

And it's the funniest Because it just brings me so much joy, because National Geographic photographer, and I said, From Jameena Rose.

And she said, Yeah, one of And just waiting for some vomit.

And that kind You know, think about it like that.

You know, Incredibly rope like they just survive in cold It's life.

And it really kind of puts you in your perspective.

Well, what an amazing and Day.

But you were kind of trapped for quite Finally being able to get back to Argentina, When you fly the Drake, you actually fly back And you fly back into Chile.

And everything You know, you land, get to the hotel, and they Which that team of people is about two people, Of personnel.

Normally, it's the expedition Stepping into support.

But we needed hotel bookings, On a flight out that afternoon, we've been booked But then we didn't get to leave Santiago until Two nights, which we hadn't banked on, which It meant I got to spend my birthday in Santiago, Kind of threw us off of our game a little bit.

Reached out to a travel agent and said, Hey, Natales that offer triple rooms, because the Using uses is the Hotel Costa Stralis, and they We were a little concerned.

One other thing Customs are very, very, very, very, very, very Do not lose that.

You need that to be able to To leave Chile, it was rough.

So we were trying We ended up finding one kind of on the outskirts, Costa Stralis.

And we're like, you guys handle To get away from these angry vibes.

We're gonna Like this.

So we go over and that was an incredible Been purchased.

And it was very local, another Towards Americans, I would say.

And there happened And they're like, Oh, yeah, you know, hey, you Two of the only like, only like there were two Let us know.

We'll make you know, we'll come Breakfast because the attention to detail was And we watched the car race and with the locals We really got very, very lucky to find this Lovely people there.

People stay there for one They had a bunch of runner medallions and signatures It was a challenge to try to find somewhere Santiago.

We stayed near the airport, had our Bonus drinks for birthday stuff and went and Morning to get back home.

So a journey.

Really?

So obviously, delays happen as with any travel.

Even very briefly scrolling through the National Geographic expeditions website, there is so Notices about hey, these delays absolutely happen.

found on the FAQ an entire contingency plan For if each part of the trip is delayed.

Here's And it very clearly says these happen.

Like You're going to be delayed, you know, you're I guess, just tell us about kind of how I think I would recommend trip insurance highly, that It was great.

It allowed us to put any of those But the information in the fine print, it says A replacement ticket in economy.

And so we had Had planned to fly first class and they were Some people had booked their own flights.

My A fly the Drake, give yourselves like three You're delayed, you don't want to be dealing Have an extra three or four days in part in Win either way.

But yeah, there is all sorts Times they put in bold print, delays happen, People are still going to get outraged.

And Seasoned travelers.

We've both been delayed Gamut travel wise.

And so we were kind of like, This.

Our friend who was with us hasn't traveled More but she's like, you guys have this, right?

It.

We reached out to the people who we know Get this handled.

So that's, I think a big part You want to, hey, delays happen, be prepared Going to make it happen to the best of their Amount of days off work.

And for that case, In Santiago or Puerto Natales so that they can To work on time.

But chances are, if you're Time in the bank because this is a bucket list On a whim.

Antarctica is a big deal.

It's a It, you want to do it right.

Well, I'm pretty Kayaking.

Yes, just a little bit.

All right.

Oh, 100%.

Oh, gosh.

See now I'm torn.

The sad Which was on our bonus day.

I mean, I loved Even know existed until I heard about it on What is this?

And so that was the one that I Of orcas just swimming and hunting and seeing Really was it was my sad little baby penguin, I can't help but laugh and smile every time So I would hate to say was there anything that Kind of on your list of excursions that were But then ended up being like, Oh, wait, no, You know, I don't know.

I don't think there Because the Drake is intimidating and scary Yet.

We did have one moment where we had a 30 And it knocked a piano over and it woke all Went back to bed, but it knocked the table over Of bed said who fell out of bed.

That's how Of the time.

But the Drake itself, it's cloudy stormy and it's rough and it's the pure power Of the ocean.

And it's one of those things that Is sea days that are flat and calm are But sea days where you're really getting to the just incredible power that the ocean carries Feeling the ocean move beneath you and Realizing that you are just you are so small It really kind of it's it's it's like realizing I think a lot of us would tout this as a once-in-a-lifetime Type of trip would you do an Antarctica trip Or is it kind of check in the box and you're There's so many great things in the world to I may or may not already be trying to figure Antarctica for most people is a once-in-a-lifetime Be by the time most people have the time and That doesn't mean that Antarctica is only for I will say a lot of the people on our crews My mother is one of those and I would never But that doesn't mean that Antarctica is only Antarctica is for everybody and the younger I think the more of a chance you have of going Enrapturing I thought it would be a one-and-done Okay, how do I get to do the below the Antarctic How do I get to go into the Ross Sea now that I want to go on to the other side of the peninsula.

Antarctica visitation, but it's also a little Safe and clean and out of human influence.

And I do fully intend on returning to Antarctica Would I want to do it with another line where I don't know if I want to spend a night sleeping That's not necessarily my vibe.

But do I want Yes, we did not get to see Emperor penguins.

We got to see Gentoo and Chinstrap only we didn't But that just happened to be the rookeries that Just not at the rookeries we went to you don't I think that's another thing is people think You need to be able to be mobile enough to get But you don't have to go and do these crazy There are options to go and just hang around Experience it and there are naturals who always Historians who will answer your questions It's Nat Geo does an incredible job of staffing Well, we know Antarctica is on your short list But what is next for you in the foreseeable Doing the repositioning cruise from San Diego So I'll be doing that with my mom and actually So it'll be good to catch up with her and then Last fall, so that's what's up.

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