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Welcome to Ruthie's Table four, a production of iHeartRadio and Adamized Studios.
Speaker 2The films of Olivia Coleman have the power to move us to tears, make us laugh, and inspire us to try something new.
They can also make us feel really, really hungry.
In the Favorite playing Queen Anne, Olivia Coleman conveys her authority by insisting on a cup of over rich hot chocolate.
And there are tables laden with roasted venison, lamb cakes, desserts, the symbols of wealth and privilege.
None to the queen, what what you cannot have?
Got chocolate?
Your stomach?
Sugar inflames it.
Speaker 1I'm AGirl having that cup?
Speaker 2Do not?
I'm sorry, I do not know what to do.
Oh fine, give it here and you can get a bucket in a mop for the aftermath.
I met Olivia over food one night in the River Cafe.
She was with my friend Maggie gillinol and they just wrap filming for their movie The Lost Daughter in Greece.
It is not an exaggeration to say they pretty much ordered everything on the menu.
We immediately got into talking about feeding our kids, cooking and inflicted distance from family when working This was a conversation that could have lasted for hours, but I had to go back to the kitchen and she needed to finish your lemon pasta before it cooled down.
Today we're here in the River Cafe and she is the one who's been cooking the lemon pasta.
Now we're going to pick up where we left off.
Conversation with a woman I admire, I respect, and I adore lucky me.
Speaker 1Oh, that was the best introduction.
Speaker 2Thanks, Man's true.
It's true.
So you're in the River Cafe kitchen with Alex, who's on the section called Hots two which does pasta.
So what was it like?
What it just say?
Speaker 1Lovely?
Speaker 2You chose for your recipe tag you Telly with lemon, cream and parsley, And I wonder if you would like to read it.
Speaker 3Four hundred grams tagli tenny and salt and coarsely ground black pepper, three hundred miles double cream, one hundred and twenty grams unsalted butter, softened zest and juice of four juicy lemons.
Six tablespoons roughly chopped flat leaf parsley.
One hundred and fifty grams of grated parmitan.
Speaker 1This is one that you chose.
Speaker 2Sure, yeah, I mean it.
It is absolutely lovely and classic, and I think sort of as you start being this time of years, is you know, it's sort of starve a bit more light in summary, but still on its slightly miserable.
Speaker 1Well have I picked something too easy for you?
Speaker 2No?
No, this is great, fantastic.
Speaker 1What we want to do is we basically.
Speaker 2Just get everything in in the pan.
Speaker 3That we need.
Speaker 1So we're going to have a bit of butter of a bit of.
Speaker 3Cream in a large, thick bottomed saucepan.
Gently heat the cream.
When warm, add the butter, lemon, juice, and zest, stir briefly together.
Speaker 1Then remove from the heat.
Speaker 3Cook the tagultarian a generous amount of boiling salted water until al dente, and then drain, stir into the warm cream and season.
Add half the parsley and tossed together.
Speaker 1I was going, do you want to like toss it?
Speaker 3Can?
I?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, because I feel like, sorry, that's a bit you know, we've still got a bit of you Just give it a good old yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3Serve immediately on warm plates with the remainder of the parsley and the parmesan as it.
Speaker 2Cools, it will sort of thicken up a little bit, and then a little bit of parmesan on top.
Speaker 1From that's sort of what we're looking for.
Its pretty Oh.
Speaker 2What did you observe?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Just amazing.
Speaker 2He said you cooked it?
You actually did well.
Speaker 1I think he's lying, definitely.
Speaker 2It's not easy to go into it.
Let me do that.
I did the tossing.
Yeah, did you catch it?
Yeah?
Speaker 3Well I did make a bit of a mess of your floor.
Sorry, Oh dear, okay, we.
Speaker 1Just wanted no, we didn't want to know.
Speaker 2Did you see food and your ability to eat, Well, it's a kind of measure of your success.
People very often see that that we've talked to would say as their success increased, they measured it by being able to go to a good restaurant, better bottle of wine, even not have to look at the right hand side for the prices before they looked at what they wanted to eat.
Yeah, the difference is so is that how is that measured in your career?
Speaker 3I remember we've got a close group of active friends that we all were drama school together and we all stayed very close.
But when we first left drama school, sometimes we'd go to you know, a pub for someone's birthday to eat, and it was very much sort of how about should we share that all of us were you know, really there wasn't much lots of money going around and and renting terrible places and trying to share something between us.
Or if we club together and buy one bottle and then we could always get something from the offfee on the way home and have more to drink because it's cheaper at home.
And then cut to you know, years later, I could say, let's walk out for dinner, my shout or you know what.
Speaker 2Did you read after we had the ask?
Was that celebrated with food?
Speaker 4No?
Speaker 1I think that was entirely booze.
Speaker 3I could do another program called you know, I was so out of it sort of I couldn't believe what had happened.
Speaker 2You did seem very sharp, yes, And why why were you so surprised?
Speaker 3I didn't think i'd get it, you know, the first time I'd been nominated, and we were so proud the film and everything, but I just thought that that's never gonna happen.
That's oh, it makes your emotional.
It was such a ridiculous thing to have happened in a way.
Yeah, I can't believe it.
Still can't quite believe that happened.
I did afterwards.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 2Do you are you an emotional eater?
Do you eat when you're happy or sad?
You both?
Yeah?
Speaker 3Yeah, I do love you know, the comfort foods or hot buttered toast butter place, but I love butter.
Speaker 1Toast is basically just a vehicle for butter.
Agree.
Speaker 2My mother in law used to say that butter is the best cheese, you know.
She treated it like cheese and you just have a piece of slab butter until she decided that it was would kill you, so that I was never allowed to cook with butter after that.
But it is really Yeah, I like it.
And when you make a film like for instance, going to Greece, when you made the last order.
Speaker 3With Maggie too, Yeah, all of the we're in the same hotel.
Maggie had a little house separately because she had to do grown up things think about the next day, and we were all quite badly behaved.
Who you were so me Jesse, Dakota, Dakoacha Johnson, Jesse Buckley, to Coach Johnson, Paul Meskill, Ollie Jackson, Cohen, Dagmara Demin, chic.
Speaker 1Who else?
Speaker 3I feel awful if I'm missing anyone else out.
But we were all together and quite badly behaved and eating.
We knew exactly the menu because we'd all been the same hotel for I think six weeks, so we knew the menu back to front.
And they were very sweet and would do very but there was I remember they had a deconstructed fetter, you know, Greek salad, so it was a really different fetter, not a solid one, but quite a soft one, laid out sort of prettily rather than you know what.
But I remember from a childhood holidays degrees which is great, big chunks of everything in a bomb.
I have even got pictures of the food.
And they did a savice with mango and m lovely things.
This is Greece, in Greece, in the hotel in the Poseidonian and as well, Yes we did go to Greece as it as yeah as kids, and I remember then eating octopus.
I couldn't eat octopus now because I've you know, the my octopus teacher, and learning so much about how clever they are.
I can't do it any but to eat it straight out of the sea, so fresh and squid and.
Speaker 2So did your parents travel with you when you were a kid, did you kill No, they.
Speaker 3Weren't really travelers.
But my dad's best friend moved to Naples when I was twelve.
I don't think they'd ever been to Italy, and we decided to go and we stayed with them.
Speaker 2In the summer.
Speaker 3Yes, in the summer, we went to Ischia in the Bay of Naples and just had because they lived there and he married an Italian woman.
We had incredible food.
We went to amazing restaurants, and we didn't know what we were doing, so he would trust me and you would order something of everything and try these beautiful things.
We went to little restaurants in people's houses in the hills.
Oh, yeh is it when I was twelve?
I was born in seventy four and I can't do maths.
Speaker 2Yeah, so that's eighty two, well done, No twelve, no maths either.
Seventy four eight eighty six.
How long did it take us to add twelve to seventy four eighty that's the year before we started here.
And it's interesting that you know your first introduction to Italian cucoo was southern, you know, so regional, isn't it a different said, you go on to Venice, you would have had completely different food.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And I love the food of southern Italy.
I did that last year.
I went sailing in that area and it's lemons and basil.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know, fish fresh.
Speaker 2Yeah, fresh, really good.
So let's go back to the beginnings.
Yes, born in.
Speaker 3Norfolk, Yes, not really a family of food.
Food was always love.
We'd always sit together and we had dinner.
Yeah, a lot of My mum was a nurse.
Often she'd come in.
It would be quick.
We might sit on the sofa watch Telly with food on our laps and you know, doctor who.
But when people came around, it was an excuse for my dad to open a bottle of wine and entertain.
Speaker 2And who did the cooking?
Speaker 1Then?
Speaker 2Did he ever cook?
Speaker 4He?
Speaker 3My mom did the cooking.
She never really loved cooking.
And her mum, I remember my granny sort of dreaded people coming around.
And we'd always have slightly overcooked salmon, new potatoes and green beans.
I think that was it every time I went to my granny's house.
And but then my mum whenever anyone came for a dinner party, I can just remember cold Morney.
That's with cheese and kind of crepes and spinach, I think, yeah yeah, and new potatoes as simple as possible.
Speaker 1She really didn't want to spend much time.
After that trip to Italy.
Speaker 3My dad decided he wanted to get involved and started to particularly pastors and things, and that's.
Speaker 2What did you do?
Speaker 3He was a surveyor, chilter surveyor, but he quite liked the glass of wine feeding everybody.
Speaker 1He wasn't great, but he was enthusiastic.
Speaker 2I think it is hard for a woman who was a nurse, you know, how to think about did she work nights?
Speaker 3By the time I came along, she wasn't doing nights because she wasn't working in the hospital.
She was working on the district, so I can't even remember.
She must have been on call if someone needed her at night time.
But she worked Christmas Day, you know.
She always took the shifts that she knew other people didn't really want to do.
I think, and your grandmother lived near you, often i'd go and stay there.
If Mum and Dad were very busy, I'd go and stay with my granny.
And she always had orange Club biscuits in her.
Speaker 2What are your memories of your grandmother, my grand orange.
Speaker 3Club biscuits, rabina hilariously by in my bed.
So that's sugar all night.
Speaker 2Probably they didn't think about that.
Speaker 1No, no, not at all and pretty.
Speaker 2Okay, thanks, So the memories.
What about your father's mother.
Speaker 1She was an amazing baker girl.
Speaker 2We found someone in the y.
What did she make?
Speaker 3Just there was always she had a little larder and she'd always go have a little look in the cupboard there go on and there was always been a little bit of cake and made you a little bit something or shortbreads, fruitcake which I'd ever liked, so she'd always make me a little chocolate cake.
And yeah, just we were always allowed to go in and help ourselves.
Speaker 2So growing up Norfrika's see only place incredible secret.
Speaker 3We used to also our holidays were also camping in Norfolk, just a few miles away from where we actually lived on the coast, and we'd camp in a campsite and picked Sanfa.
We in Norfolk we call it Sanfa And when I first saw it written down on our menu in London said Samphire.
Speaker 1I have no idea what that was, so.
Speaker 2I thought it was pronounced.
Speaker 3I thought it was spelt as a kid s a n f e r sanfa, but I think that's just the Northern way of saying it.
But the way we ate it as well was so shake off the mud in the seawater and it's sort of blanched, but it's still so you keep the root thing and just dip it in butter and put it like that.
You get the meat off the meat, you know.
Yeah, yeah, And we'd always just have it like that.
You'd never have it with something else.
Speaker 1You eat it.
That's how we ate it.
Speaker 2We take that little twig off at the barroom and then we've blanched, put it with a fishbert and yeah and sea burst.
It's great.
It's a short season though, isn't it.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1I think you're not allowed to pick it anymore.
Speaker 3We used to really go and pick it, just go to the beach, pick it off the marshes and fish and fish.
Yes, we used to go cockling as well.
And mussels.
I have always loved mussels.
Oh that garlakey dunk bread in it.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 3I did my first school play when I was sixteen, and suddenly I'd always been so rubbish at everything at school, and then suddenly did a play and went a light went on.
Speaker 1I love this.
Speaker 3I wonder if I could do this, but I didn't know anyone who did it.
I assumed you had to come from that place in order to do it, so sort of had a secret yearning that never said it.
And then I went to Homerton, which I think still is a teacher training college in Cambridge, but I left after a term or so, so I never They call it matriculation when you become part of the university, but I never did that, so I was never part of the university.
Speaker 1And I left because I just couldn't do it.
Speaker 3And then went off to the town of Cambridge and ended up working as a cleaner there for years.
And I had a bicycle has the same major to everyone else.
Nobody questioned me, and I went cycled around, went to lectures of people.
So I went to an architecture lecture, went to an EU law lecture with when I was totally in desperate, in love with Ed and just trying.
Speaker 2To you were being an actor.
Nigella last and a friend of mine, you know, she worked as a cleaner in hotels and Florence, and she said it was the most revealing you could have, particularly in the hotel the way people left their rooms or so you did that for her.
Speaker 3Long, Yeah, a couple of years, and then did a secretarial course.
That was my mum's suggestion that if you're going to be an actor, you need something for it.
So you knew then that this is by then.
Yeah, I had done in Cambridge.
There's about thirty drama societies and I would just cycle aandaled it.
I did my shift cycle and auditioning things don't play his learning lines, going back, cleaning all the loose and chasing head around.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was your husband to be was a student Cambridge.
Speaker 1Yes he was.
Speaker 3He's proper clever and he was there doing it properly.
What does he do He was doing law then, but he's a writer.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3And then we went off to Bristol of Vic Drama School together and then we sort of you know, the food is love thing.
We went to Thai restaurants and discovered new food together and there's Aai restaurant in Cambridge and it was so delicious we took it back with us.
We asked its the first of a time I've asked for a doggie bag.
And I didn't want to leave any of it, and we left it on his window, still outside, putting arms out the.
Speaker 1Window and going, oh my god, it's amazing.
The lemon grass and the coconut.
Speaker 2Milcolm so Cambridge and then you started acting more and more and he went to Bristol.
Yeah, and when you actually then started working in the theater, that must have absolutely your way of eating.
Did it give you a routine or did it give you restrictions some what you could have?
Speaker 3And well, once we left Bristol and we were working, you know, trying to earn our keep as actors.
I did my first few plays and things.
I think I ate quite late after the show because it was sort of on a high.
Certainly wanted to have a drink afterwards.
When I worked at the Noel Coward Theater right next to Shiky's with Amy Morgan and Phoebe Wallerbridge, the three of us would sort of go to Cheeky's afterwards and sit outside and I think we all smoked then, and we would order the little croquettes and the Scarlett Burgers.
Speaker 1Oh, and that was a true and just drink.
This would have been.
Speaker 3After Iron Lady, except when I first met Phoebe, which is Meryl Street playing Margaret Thatcher.
Speaker 1So a couple of years after that, three years after that.
I don't know, I'm so bad.
Speaker 2With but you can remember what you ate, you can always Yes, Yeah, loves food, she does.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 3And it's really annoying that she's so tall and lean and she loves eating.
Speaker 2It's annoying.
It's annoying.
I will, I will.
But sure you were eating out, so when you because it's you know, picnics.
Would you eat before if you were in a martine would you.
Speaker 3We'd sometimes have a picnic on the floor of one of our dressing rooms, so go to you know, get sort of little little cheeses and meats and pretend you're having a normal life and not going back on stage.
Speaker 2There are men involved as well.
Speaker 3Was it most of the female It was mostly just the three of our girls, and we'd have a kip.
We'd sort of put we had some roll out mattresses that we could put on the floor and we'd have a snooze and eat nice food and then do the matinee.
Speaker 2Do you think that it binds you together food?
When you when you go on a set and you know that you're meeting you know, I don't know if the all the other actors were friends of yours before, but does it something that holds you all?
Speaker 3Before COVID happened, everyone would eat together on the dining bus and I loved that you were eating with the crew and what did you go for?
What you go for, and having a lovely time together, so social, and then time to sort of all be equal and to let your head down.
And then now the dining bus hasn't really come back, and so people sort of eat separately, and that's such a shame, and you sort of sit on your own in your little van.
And I missed that very much, and hopefully we'll come back.
But also sometimes you know, some actors are having to have a particularly strict diet because they've got to look a certain way, and that's sort of awful, and you try and hide the pudding option that you went for.
Speaker 2How does weight and physical appearance with food, How does it affect your work?
I was just talking to someone who's coming to London to be in a movie, and his assistant said to me that he has a nutritionist and a trainer because he's on a very special diet for the film.
And I thought, well, that'd be interesting.
I'd like to know about that because maybe I could go on that without the nutritionist.
And it turned out that he was actually eating eight thousand calories a day because I had to gain so much weight.
It was completely and I just was wondering how that, you know, when you were a princess, when you.
Speaker 3When you okay queen and I had to put on weight.
You had to put on about two stone, did you?
Speaker 2And how did you do that?
Speaker 1I mean, that's easy.
Speaker 2Yeah, you didn't need a nutritionist in my seat.
Speaker 3But you know, and Rachel and and Emily Emma are very healthy, clean eaters anyway.
They love food, but it's sort of clean food, so well, they had their healthy options.
I would say, I have one of everything and all of the puddings, and if you don't want that, I'll have that.
It started actually to be little bit quite quite gloomy.
I thought, God, what fun being told to put on weight?
But I can put all my quite quickly, and so it starts to feel, oh, yeah, I don't know, you want another pizza or another I'm going to have to take it all off at the end, you know, And how did you take it off?
Just see it old fashioned eating a lot less and trying to move more.
Speaker 1But it was boring and hard, and she loved to eat.
Was yeah she was.
I mean she did.
Speaker 2Was it fifteen pregnancies she'd had seventeen or maybe when I watched the film against and she lost, she'd lost seventeen babies.
Speaker 1That's right.
Speaker 3Her eldest one had lasted to had got to ten years old, so they had varying degrees of ages.
But I think food for her was she was apparently clinically obese and and.
Speaker 1Yeah, you eat comfort food.
Speaker 2And what I playing the queen and the was she very different?
Speaker 3And she was tiny, so I did have to She had a tiny waist and I don't have a tiny waiste, so I did.
Speaker 1They were very sweet.
Speaker 3They got me a trainer before I started, and then thankfully by my second season she was a bit older and didn't have such tiny waste, so I was about.
Speaker 2A bit.
Did you feel playing her and the research into the live post war so completely restrictive and different from what the voluptuous nurse and the time?
Speaker 1Yes, so what was that like?
Speaker 2What was your sense of food in the palace and food in the monarchy and food for being Queen.
Speaker 3Well, I think when they had I mean, this is you know, only stuff, but I remember from what we did.
But whenever there was there were people coming to visit, sort of big must entertain the heads of state things, it was all beautiful, lovely food.
But because she'd remembered rations and everything, Yeah, she was never irresponsible about too much food.
She ate quite sort of circumspect frugally, and she did maintain and she was very healthy and outdoorsy, and she maintained a sort of neat little figure which doesn't come from copies amounts of food.
So I think she was quite conservative about pleasure.
Speaker 2I mean, yeah, it's interesting that you know what you wonder what pleasure there was in Yeah, you know you can see the kings of France and the childs and wonder whether the British aristocracy had probably probably did you know those country houses then yeah, you just wonder about the palace, whether eating and food was fun.
I hope so, yeah, I hope they enjoy it how they enjoy it now.
I think with King Charles, I think that that family probably is more interested in food because.
Speaker 3The lovely organic vegetables and yeah, and for Miller's son Tom Barker Bowls writes about food to cook book.
Speaker 1Hopefully they have to.
Speaker 2I wonder if they go to restaurants.
Speaker 1So I don't know.
I think that's probably hard thing to do, isn't it.
Speaker 2Maybe do you cook at home?
Is this passion for food telling that you love to eat?
But yeah, that's fair enough.
I'm a very good guest.
Speaker 3When I first left home, my mom gave me a Delia Smith sort of complete, which was amazing.
Speaker 2And you know, I think she's good, really, I do.
She was in the restaurant that long ago, really, and I thought she really taught a generation to cook.
Speaker 3All those lovely sort of staples.
I learned that from from her recipe book.
So your mom gave you this book?
And yeah, and so I loved cooking for my two flatmates, Debbie and Olivia, and that was the only cookbook we had, and we would I loved it.
Also, I started to enjoy going to the shop and going to buy because we want such a tight budget.
We'd picture meals and buy for the meals, not just you know, anything off the shelf.
Speaker 1Fancy that.
And I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 3And I enjoyed and sometimes it was just a jacket of potato with loads of butter and cheese.
But I really enjoyed the us all eating together and you know, feeding each other.
So you have three children and you work and sometimes you don't.
Yeah, it can be home or you have do have to shop.
Speaker 2So what is like?
You told us what food was like in your parents and your grandparents.
If I were to knock on the door, what is food like if you were to knock on the.
Speaker 3Door that, Yeah, you should, because now we have I still struggle with saying because I feel a bit it's still of embarrassed.
But we have a really lovely nanny now I know, because we certainly both started working much more.
Speaker 1She's an incredible cook.
Speaker 2Are they coming there?
Yeah, you should, and you'll sit down to dinner.
Speaker 1We always sit together and eat.
Speaker 3Yeah when we sometimes the kids are doing late things at school and we have we do a Sunday roast every Sunday.
Speaker 1We're so boring.
Speaker 2And do you take them on holidays and food holidays?
Speaker 3Yeah, we took the kids to sort of holiday of a lifetime to Sri Lanka just before lockdown and just ate the most incredible food three times a day, curry three times a day.
Speaker 2Yeah, what was that?
Speaker 3Because we traveled around with the kids, and our two eldest are really adventurous.
Speaker 1They've always we've we've always.
Speaker 3Included them with all the food we have, and when we have curry, we always make one that's slightly less spicy, and they sort of they love it now and the boys love spice.
And so when we were traveling around, our little one really wasn't wasn't thrilled, but she was only four at the time.
So she ate plain pasta wherever we were plain rise and we would have egg hoppers and the string hoppers for breakfast, and the dolls and the coconuts, sambal and all these beautiful things we would eat and they loved it as well.
Speaker 2It does tell you about a country, doesn't it.
Yell, that's growing.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Our middle boy, he's he became obsessed with Japan when he was very little, and he did a sushi course and he makes beautiful sushi and ramen.
Speaker 2He does three day ramen.
It does take yeah days, it makes days.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3And actually Ed is taking the two boys for a cookery course when they before our eldest goes to university.
So they're doing a little week together little boys week learning to cook.
Speaker 2Do you feel when you're away and you're working, do you feel that your work takes you away from some people you love?
And well, you know, how does that work?
Speaker 3Ed and I have been together thirty years, and up until COVID, i'd only ever been away.
The longest I've been away was two weeks, because I just don't take jobs away from home.
Speaker 2Okay, let's stuck there.
So then you you think about accepting a movie or yeah, a player or something that will keep you away from home.
Speaker 3Yeah, I just I get terribly homesick.
I never used to be able to sleep very well if ED wasn't there, And now I think we're probably you know, I'm at an age where sleep is harder anyway, So actually it's quite.
Speaker 1You go a night away, Yeah, I'll, I'll get a great night sleep.
Speaker 3But I also I missed the kids, you know, I wanted to be there, and so I was very lucky that I had the option of great work in the UK and I didn't have to go away and then well.
Speaker 2Lost or cha.
I was going to say it was that six weeks.
Speaker 1Six weeks.
Speaker 3So Sunny went from the six sixth way, which is I think why we all behave so badly because we all adored each other, got on so well, got hey, we're here, we're in a beautiful place.
Speaker 2Did the kids come out?
Speaker 3No, because weren't allud you because if they came, they'd have to quarantine before point, so we'd all meet up.
We were each other's family, and I know dag Mara was really missing her family, and I really understood that feeling.
So I said, you'll be back on the school run before you know it.
And they don't know that you're miserable or happy, so just go for happy.
Speaker 2And men aren't nil who are in the same actors feel that way as well.
Do you think they know that their wife is home with the kids, and it's all.
Speaker 3I've always struggled with this male female thing.
I think ideally, if you're all brought up the same, you are the same.
It's only conditioning that makes sisting male female.
So all the men I know and love struggle with being away from home and they miss, you know, the ones I'm not that impressed by have a ball.
But I think that's the same with some women as well.
You know, love being away.
It's I don't think it's a gender thing.
I think it's a conditioning thing.
But people get shut down by different No.
Speaker 2No, people ask me if women chefs could differently from male shops, and I always try and avoid that.
They really want you to say that women cook with more care or more sensitivity and men are a bit more and it's not true.
Speaker 3And it's not fair to the men that we all know love and I know plenty of really uncaring women and plenty of incredibly emotional, you know, kind men.
Speaker 2And now you're doing a movie about chocolate.
Is that right?
Oh god, yeah, I had to talk about that will they won't get and the chocolate.
So what was that like in terms of chocolate?
Speaker 3And oh they had a chocolate here, But when I went to have for fittings and things, they said, come and look at what this chocolate has made for us.
And these chocolates were exquisite, and he said you can eat them all.
I mean often, if it's going to be a prop why bother maker, But that he was so such a master.
He insisted that it had to taste beautiful, what sort of caramel?
Speaker 1Incredible?
Speaker 3And they were brightly colored and amazing shapes, and every one of them you could have eaten, and it would have been incredible.
Speaker 2I wish the audience could see your smile, because every time you talk about food, your face lights up, and you know, you sort of remember the things that you ate, places that you've eaten.
Speaker 1And the first time I had truffle.
Speaker 3Yeah, a white ruffle.
Oh, just any truffle.
Any, And now we have we have a little job with truffle, and every now and then, yeah, overscrumbled eagle, yeah on a Russian pasta.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2You know, food is love, and food is alleviating hunger, and food is curiosity or traveling or discovering.
Food is also comfort, and I was wondering if there's a food that you would turn to, something you'd either make or buy.
Olivia Coleman, wonderful person that you are, and I hope you don't need comfort very often because you give such joy.
I mean when you came in the restaurant today, We've had all sorts of people come in and they're great.
They're politicians or you know, actors or writers or doctors or whatever, and you just I could just see everybody look up and be so happy you were there, really happy that you were there.
It was really great to see, and of course I joined them and saying thank you so much, so would you come back again?
Yeah, okay, we'll do it more.
And meanwhile, will you tell me and tell I was ever listening, what would be the comfort food you turn to?
Speaker 3My comfort food is sort of a one spoon thing and it's tarcodile.
Speaker 1I could eat that all day, every day.
Okay, tacodile.
Speaker 4Tell me?
Speaker 2Can you just tell people who might not know what it is?
Speaker 3So it's a lentils which are soft, and there's garlic, and I think the tadca is the tempered thing on the top.
I've never made it, but I am a connoisseur of eating it.
Yeah, and it is my favorite thing I always order.
If we have a takeaway or delivery, I order much more tarcodile than we need, so I can have it cold for breakfast.
I'll have it read it again for lunch next day.
I just love it.
Speaker 1I could eat it.
I'm going to try that love it.
Speaker 2I was surprised because I'm sure you're going to say toast and butter.
Speaker 1I'm sorry, Yeah, don't be sorry, but.
Speaker 2I will come and have that talcodile knock on your door and thank you so God, thank you having me.
And now you're going to go and have food.
I'm go have lunch and you can eat and eat and eat.
Oh, thank you, thank you so much.
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