It's not started yet.

Okay, guys, that should be better.

Test one, two, three, Good evening, my first day on YouTube, figuring this out as I go, I don't discover you're not going to try to see.

Okay, that's fun.

And how much of a delay is there?

Yes, okay, there we go.

Okay, good, No, it's not it's not.

It's not Frank's fault, is oh good, good, good guess.

But it's not his fault.

It was it was It was my It was my fault.

It was totally my fault because I screwed up because I there's a setting, there's a setting in OBS that you have to change.

Basically, my bitrate was too high.

My bitrate and resolution that I record my recorded videos at has to be is higher than what you can livestream at in a reasonable manner.

So and I always change it.

I always change it.

And for whatever reason, you can create scenes and OBS and for some reason that one thing doesn't change, so you have to go in and manually change it each time.

So, yeah, it was my fault.

So I'm not listening to you, Frank.

I can hear you in the headphones down here, but I'm not.

I can't hear what you're saying, so I'm not listening to you, so so okay, So thanks for bearing with me, guys.

Good evening to everybody.

We're going to talk about APRS tonight.

Special shout out to the folks in Green Text YouTube channel members.

Forty five Auto was in there earlier.

Koley don you guys have switched over.

This is the new chat GP MAC seven.

Good evening, Jim KC nine USB, Jerry Chad kJ five GKK, several other guys in there.

There we go, Jeff AA four BC and my wife is in the chat.

Ham Radio Crusader's in the chat.

Good evening.

Freddy Mack Freddie Mack broke nine thousand subscribers on his YouTube channel.

Just recently saw a message on that on discord.

So yeah, you guys go check out Ham Radio Crusader.

If you're not a I'd like to do a live stream.

We're not gonna do that tonight.

I'd like to do a livestream.

Say let's get Freddy Mack to ten thousand subs so I might let him get a little bit closer on his own, then see if we can hammer him something like that, get him on a live stream.

Would you all be interested in that let me know the comments.

Sounds like a fun live stream to me.

All right, So we're gonna do a thing, and then we're gonna do another thing.

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I'm just I'm just gonna say it, Frank, you can hear me, okay, because Tank Radio pint glasses are up on the website too, with the green glow at the bottom of them.

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So those are a limited time deal.

Once he sells enough of those, he's gonna pull those down.

So those are up there too, So he's gonna want me talk about that.

And uh uh that's where that is.

So tonight we're gonna be talking about aprs and if you let's see, let me go here, I have why does that not work?

Oh?

Yeah, there it is?

Okay, So I have this running on the desk right here.

This is my I Gate Mini aprs iGATE from CSN Technologies, and we're gonna talk about them a little bit cause why is that screen?

Now?

Okay, I got a screen that's not working.

Another screen that's not working, So let me figure that out real quick.

Uh, zoom chrome, that's why there it is right there.

Okay, So igatemini dot com is this website right here.

He creates the SAT tracker that you guys might have seen before, and he's creating now this iGATE mini and we're gonna talk about that tonight.

We're gonna do some APRS messaging tonight.

I'm on an inside antenna right here with the overhead.

This is just on a little little intenna right here right now, so you might hear a buzzing in the stream, but I'm about to connect it to my outside antenna.

But the first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna get We're gonna get these guys on with us, and we're gonna talk with uh Frank Is in the background because I've been talking to him and zoom meeting right here.

There we go, and I'm gonna unmute you guys.

And good evening.

How is everyone tonight?

Hey, good evening man.

We don't have a video feed for you.

Oh I can fix that.

How's that right there?

It is there?

It is that.

Yeah, that's just feeding to you guys, not to YouTube.

But yeah, yep, yep, there we go.

All right, So Jim bought Jim bought us five Ham Radio two point zero gift memberships.

Thank you, Jim, appreciate those of you who clicked on that.

So, yeah, we're gonna be talking about APRS.

So one of the most popular, if you saw my email, one of the most popular videos of my thirty Days of Hamm Radio series was the APRS.

We Jason and I got together and I did a bunch of it on my own and I brought him on.

We did an interview part thing on zoom and that was a forty one minute video.

Is the longest video of the series, and forty one minutes is about twice as long, a little bit more than twice as long as what a normal video is on the channel.

But the thirty Days of ham Radio videos were all about I don't know, eight to ten to twelve.

Maybe some of them were closer to fifteen minutes, but none of them were more than I think maybe maybe one of them was like, well, you know what, the the VHF contest station I think was about a half hour.

But the forty one minute APRS video was definitely the longest one of the series, and it it was they had a lot of watch time.

I mean, even though it was long, longer video than what most people like to watch on YouTube, it got a lot of watch time, got a lot of really good comments on it.

So APRS is a very popular thing, no matter what some other YouTubers in Texas might tell you.

So I'm not I'm not not any names here, you know.

Come on, So I said, I wasn't gonna name any names you gotta.

Talk about I don't care.

But yeah, so uh but yeah, APRS is a thing.

I've had a lot of fun with it.

This if I can switch my view here this this overhead, I'm sorry, this overhead, I'm looking at the wrong thing.

This I gate Mini, that's right here.

I was having trouble with it.

It was it seemed to be working fine, and then I was for whatever reason I was, I was having trouble being able to send messages with it, and got on the phone with Mike Crater of it the other day and we got that worked out.

So it's all good now and it is working working just fine.

So I'm gonna plug that up to the trying to get it to where you guys can see it.

Here here we go.

So we're gonna plug this up right here.

I three D printed this case.

You guys should be proud of being with three D printed this case.

It's got these little pins in the back of it here that for whatever reason, they don't kind of stay in by themselves, so I had to.

I got some Elmer's glue and just kind of glued them down in there.

I don't know if there's like a specific glue to glue three D printed parts or whatnot, but I don't know.

I just put a little tiny little drop of Elmer's glue underneath the pins and put them down in there, so they're in there now.

Love it.

Gorilla glue, Yeah.

Gorilla glue.

You know I and I ran out of gorilla glue.

I had a tube of it that that I had in my toolbox and I ran out of it and I haven't replaced it yet, and I should, but but I just used little Elmore's coool.

The Elmers might come apart.

This is pet G A lot of the stuff I've been printing lately has been in PLA because I've got some really cool colors of PLA that I picked up from Gigaparts and from Amazon.

But this is pet GEB.

And this is actually the this is the second I printed a case and I lost these pins.

So I zip tied it together and I put it in the truck.

And it's been in the truck for the last month something like that, so it's been in some heat, not July Texas heat, not yet.

But I wanted pet g because it is gonna be living in the truck.

So I printed this brand new case today, put the buttons back in it, put you know, put it all together the way it should have been.

And and it's going back in the truck.

So this is the this is the unit that will be riding in the truck with me when I go to hamfests, when I'm on road trips, when I go to wherever, and and it's been once we got the and I I've got a question for you, Jason, because I'm going to tell you how we fixed it, and I'm going to ask you there it goes, I'm gonna ask you what you think about that.

But yeah, you guys can't see the screens a little washed out right here, but right there it says the IP address.

So it's powered by USBC.

Right here, it's on this external antenna right here.

Well, it's on this little antenna right now.

I'm about to plug it up to my external intenda.

This is a GPS comes with a GPS dongle.

I've got that run high up over there.

It says locked on the streen right there, which means it's locked into GPS, and then it says uptime, and it says the firm reversion, and then it gives you an IP address right there.

So it's very easy to pull it up in a chrome window.

And when we do that is what it looks like right there, And you can go in here and do all kinds of stuff with it.

You can find now said you have to have a physical connection to it, or can you do that same thing over Wi Fi?

Explain that it's it's over Wi Fi now, Oh it is?

Okay?

Yeah, yeah, I was confused.

I thought the cable you had connected was a USB cable to the computer.

No, I'm sorry, I should have explained that.

No, the USB cable that's connected to it now is just for power.

Okay.

It is connected via Wi Fi right now, it is serving.

It was connected to my router.

I opened up with the screen you see on on obs and zoom right now is the web browser with the IP address typed into it.

And this is what the unit looks like in the web browser.

So you can go in here and you can you can scroll down here.

You can.

I created an object and I put an object up for the Beltenham Expo that we had here locally two or three weekends ago.

So I did an object because Jason doesn't like it when we just use APRS for begonning.

So I created an object that was kind of you could do that from the software.

It's kind of fun.

I can send messages directly from this software.

There's a message.

You can message people directly from it.

The the the S s I D for my iGATE is DASH two.

It's running its k C five h w B DASH two.

I do have ambiguity on and you can.

You can go in here and I can I can turn if I go into settings right here.

Okay, you can tell it to you can set your S s I D.

Obviously it's wide one DASH one and you can tell it to beacon.

It's kind of small on the screen right here, but this middle section right here for routing okay, says RFN send two and you can choose r F for Internet, and you can I can toggle that off and on.

Okay, it says internet to send to Internet in send to RF.

So in other words, if I get a message from the Internet, I will receive it via it'll becon it v RF from the iGATE, and if I'm listening on my my mobile radio or my HT I'll get it.

If I'm not looking at the iGATE screen, I will still see it because it's beconing via r F.

It beacons to RF and or Internet.

You can turn each one of the offer on and it messages to RF or Internet.

You can turn one of those off and on, and telemetry says send to RF Internet.

And for whatever reason, telemetry to RF was off, so I just left that off.

But I will receive telemetry or it'll send telemetry to the Internet over APRS dot F five but not via RF.

So and you can.

You can mess around with this required GPS.

You can change the frequency over there at the top right on three nine, of course, is where we are.

I don't think this is a multiband unit in here.

I forgot to ask him about that.

I was going to ask him.

I was like, I wonder if this would work on like for forty I could set up my own for forty and just be because part of the problem with APRS routing is that everyone's on the same simplex frequency for two meters, so sometimes when you send a message it it it collides with other messages or other traffic, and sometimes it won't send.

That's why we had that problem in Huntsville, right exactly.

Yeah, with all the with all the traffic in Huntsville.

So so I have actually run in the past, I have actually run APRS on two twenty.

A buddy of mine, Kent, one of my good friends out here.

We got on and we started running APRS on like two two three dot six hundred or something like that.

I don't remember where it was, five hundred something like that, don't remember it was.

This was several years ago, and we were sending APRS messages back and forth via two twenty easily, and that was of course, nobody else could hear us, and we could hear anybody else.

We were just on our own little APRS thing, which is totally legit to do.

But but if you were to take like a, hey, there is Mike's in the chat CSN technologies, good evening, So it's not multipan.

I didn't think it was, but it.

But you could totally take like a like a two twenty or four to forty radio and connect like something like a raspberry Pie running dire Wolf for something similar, and pipe it to the internet so that you were running to twenty but it was still sending receiving messages to APRS do FI And you can kind of round about do that if you wanted to, and then you wouldn't be colliding with a bunch of other traffic in a in a high conject if you live in a high congested area, you wouldn't be cliding with with a bunch of other traffic.

So and you can do it over HF two.

In fact, I'm gonna get Jason to talk talk about that.

He's been doing some HF on to twenty recently, HF on APRS recently, and too many things here, but but yeah, so, so there's a lot of really cool stuff you can do with this.

I have not tapped into all of it yet, but once we got it working with messaging, it was it's been working great.

It's been working just just absolutely great.

So question for you, okay, go ahead, what what paths will.

It answer, and did you Pete.

That'd be a question for Mike in the chat.

I think you mean you mean these paths here, the wide one one.

Oh.

I think that's that's what's going out.

But what paths will it digipeat?

You really want to limit that to only digit Pete, wide one one, because you're basically a filly.

In digit right.

Yeah, And it came default.

It came to both of the path there's two there's two fields for path and usually it's on a radio, it'd be wide one one and wide two one.

Right.

It came default as both of those fields as wide one dash one and I haven't changed that.

That's a default setting.

So you're gonna Okay, so.

You're gonna have a beacon going out.

That was acceptable.

If you have that at one one two one, that wouldn't be an issue.

But what it hears it should only digipeat a wide one one path?

Gotcha?

Okay?

Does that make sense?

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

I don't know the answer to your question though, because I haven't tried.

I haven't dug that deep into it.

Okay, So that's a good that's a good question.

Maybe Michael pop up in the chat here in a minute, and let us.

Know, quick question from Colin, what unit are you using?

One more time?

What unit?

Yeah?

What you're running this on?

It's it's so, it's it's it's, it's its own unit.

This is I gaate Yeah yeah, this is an I gate Mini.

Okay, yeah, this is an I gate Mini right here.

This is its own self contained unit.

This is USBC powered and it's connected via Wi Fi to my home network right now.

And there's a lot of people messaging me now, I see all you guys on there.

So as soon as I plug uh, as soon as I plug up this thing to in my out I set up my GP nine today, which I haven't had running in several years.

So as soon as I connect this to my outside antenna, it's gonna explode.

So I was running it inside.

I was messaging Mike and I was like, hey, what about this and what about this?

He's like, man, plug it up to an outside antenda.

I'm like, okay.

So I put it on a mag mount on my truck and it just a completely, it completely, It just opened wide up there.

It is right there.

What's the power output?

H I don't know.

I don't know.

I mean, if you go to the if you go to igatemini dot com, you can read up all the specs about it.

It's right here and a lot of your a lot of your questions can be answered right there.

I don't know all the nitty gritty details of it.

I mean, it's on a raspberry pie, so it's gonna be micro watts.

Right?

Is that a pie zero?

Then?

I no, it's no, it's it's the size of a regular pie board.

I don't know if it's a four or five, but.

It's it's all right.

The developer says.

One What he says?

One?

Wat?

Okay, so one?

What there you go?

But no, no, it's the size of raspberry pie.

The size of the size of raspberry pie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, one bute.

But you can add an AM Sure you can?

Why not?

Uh?

I don't know what you know?

You might yeah, I don't know if i'd want to add an AMP.

The main reason I got this was not to be a I'm not going to put this on a tall tower or on a you know, on a building high up with a big antenna run into a bunch of power digitpeeding for a wide area.

I got this to use APRS on road trips quite frankly, because frank because when you get in like I went to Colorado twice this year, and there are places and last year we went to Yellowstone, the year before that we went to Grand Canyon, And I don't care what all the starlink and the cell phone guys tell you.

There are dead spots out there.

So when you are in a dead spot, you don't have cell reception, you don't have internet, And no, you won't be able to send APRS packets to the Internet if you have no cell signal, Okay, but you can digipeaede them and you can keep up with you know, all those trips I just mentioned, I was with people and and we could totally have In fact, Jason carries a digitieter with him when he goes places, so and he's used it on the mountain a couple of times in Huntsville, so so so that now I have that option to go into the end and it actually kind of works pretty good.

On starlink.

You get out to your campsite and you're like, well, National Park, they don't have any cell service, But you set up starlink at a campsite and it's gonna work most of the time, and then you can connect the eye gate to starlink and then you've you've got a APRS gateway right there with you.

And that's why I wanted it.

I wanted a portable APRS gateway.

I want a portable wind Link gateway.

Don't tell the wing Link guys, because they don't like that for some reason.

But I but this one is just APRS so and hunting season in Texas starts in about two weeks.

And guess what, boon docking, RV, battery power, solar, starlink and APRS I gate among among other things, are going to be set up at the hunting lease starting in a couple of weeks.

So, yeah, somebody said starlink and why find the iGATE many, Yeah, that's it.

So that's what we're gonna that's what we're gonna do.

So okay, So, uh, Jason, did you have something else to say?

No?

Okay, I thought you were I thought you were.

A There was another question, is this only gonna work?

And I know the answer, but is this gonna only work for APRS digital mode or can it work with an analogue?

This is only analog.

This is only an.

I'm sorry, a APRS signal.

It's the only analog it is not.

Okay, so I'm gonna explain real quick the difference between APRS analog and APRS digital.

Jason.

If I say something wrong, feel free to correct me.

Okay, APRS and so it's a digital signal.

Let's leave that aside for the moment.

Okay, you can take an analog radio.

Abow fang.

I'm using my BTech uv pro here.

Okay, this is an analog radio.

It does not do DMR, d Star fusion, any digital voice modes.

It is an analog radio.

It beacons APR, same as a yazoo FT three ft five, which does do fusion.

But forget that from the moment.

Okay, h Kim with D seventy five does d start?

Forget that for the moment.

These radios will becon APRS on one, three nine in an analog capacity.

And yeah, it's a digital signal, but it's not digital voice.

It's not over DMR a DMR radio and perhaps a d Star radio.

I'm not familiar with d Star as much.

But at DMR and at your DMR hospital, your pie Stars and your open spots, they will becon APRS because they have an Internet connection already, and they have and you can go in there and you can tell them to use GPS the ones that have GPS, or you can manually set a location a GPS location.

A lot of times they use the Wi Fi network that they're connected to to get a location setting.

Okay, but you can go in there and change that.

You can tell it used this manual location.

Whatever it sends APRS, it sends APRS traffic to APRS Donfi over the Internet because it's already connected to the Internet.

There's no analog signal being received or beaconed from a pie Star unit or a DMR repeater that's connected to the Internet.

But this unit is sending and receiving traffic over the Internet, yes, but also an analog over the analog one forty four dot three nine.

If I'm explaining this correctly, it's doing it so that my analog radio which is running.

I've got APRS droid running on my phone right now, connected via Bluetooth ANDC to this analog radio.

So my analog radio is both sending and receiving traffic from this iGATE over one four three nine in analog.

It's not using digital Voice DMR d star at all.

Okay.

So one of the things that I was I've talked to Bob at our Finder about and our Finder will do the our Finder uses a Simcarter Wi Fi and it'll send your APRS position over the Internet to APRS Dot Fi because the our Finder device has an Internet connection on the phone, okay, And I'm like, you need to add but it also has a legit analog dual band radio that you can do analog two meters and seventy centimeters to two way traffic on.

And I told him, I was like, you need to add analog APRS.

Forget DMR, forget the Internet connection.

You need to add you can be able to beacon an APRS signal, so that if Frank and I were standing next to each other in a parking lot at a Hamfest, and I could send a message from my radio and it goes straight to Frank and there's no Internet involved at all, and he can reply back to a message, and I can becon and Frank will see me on his radio and I'll see him on my radio, okay, And we can do the APRS thing over analog with no Internet at all.

So a pie Star and a open spot and a DMR repeater that has an Internet connection.

They can't do this.

They need an Internet connection to send APRS to APRS dot f fi.

But APRS will work completely independent of the Internet.

It won't go to you won't see it on APS dot fi obviously, but it works on as a standalone just like an just like a simplex analog radio will.

So let me know, if I let me know, if i'm if I said, if I said something confusing to somebody, I don't know.

I think maybe a clearer way to say it.

APRS is a digital packet mode running on standard FM radio.

Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, it's obviously yeah, yeah, okay, that's good.

I like that.

I like that digital packet mode.

Perfect, Okay, I think you cover the question.

Well good, yeah, hopefully hopefully explain it.

I call it analog APRS because people are like, welly, APRS is digital.

I'm like, well, yeah, packet radio is technically digital, but it's working over FM, which FM is an is what I call an analog mode.

Like it's not working over C four FM or d Star, it's working over FM.

And you can add a like a like a mobile linked tnc four you or a digi rig.

You can add these external modem devices to any analog radio and turn it on FM on three nine and create an APRS radio out of it.

You don't need DMR or a digital voice mode to use it correctly.

And that's my point.

I'm talking too much.

My throat is dry.

Oh all right, go ahead, Frank.

Anything else, No, not at this moment.

But I am watching the chat and you know what, I saw that big beer.

I'm gonna pour myself some whiskey and yeah, let do you two get back at it as I looking for any questions.

So it's coming into pumpkin beer season, and I'm I've I've got my my Southern Tier Warlock that I can no longer get in Texas, and I've got I've got a contact in uh Discord, and I hit him up the other day.

I'm like, dude, can you can you see if he goes yeah, I'll go check.

So if anyone has access to Southern Tier Warlock and or pump King, pump King is their light beer, Warlock is their stout, hit me up.

Let's do some trading, let's do some bartering for it.

So all right, I'm going to switch.

I'm gonna take this thing offline and move it over here so I can plug it into my external antenna.

Jason, let me tell you what I did to get this packet to work, because I thought this was a little bit weird.

So so I was seeing all this stuff on the ie gate.

I was seeing there's a lot of I live basically halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth.

There was a lot of activity.

There's always a lot of activity in this area, so I'm always seeing the a lot of stuff.

And I was sending messages and I was not getting it to work.

And I could get it to work from my mobile radio because I was hitting a local eyegate slash digitpeter over here.

So I get online with with Mike from CSN the other day a couple of nights ago, I think it was, and he's He's like, okay, well let it be cause I was like, does this not work with APRS droid because it seemed to work with my yazy radio.

But when I was just I was I was bumbling through the FtM five hundred menus and it seemed to be working with that, but I couldn't get it to work.

With APRS droid and he was concerned that it was being deceensed and we figured out that that was not the case.

And then uh so he he went and bought he went and bought a uv pro.

He's like, let me go get your same radio you've got.

He might have got the VGC version whatever and uh and he did some testing and he texted me like a couple of days later and he's like, hey, change it to narrow band.

Change your channel, your save channel inside of the uh of the of the uv pro to narrow band, which I did.

And there's a there's a setting in the menu that says de emphasis or emphasis or emphasis slash d emphasis and it was switched on.

So I switched that off.

He's like, turn that off.

I'm like okay.

And then like two hours later he texted me he's like, actually, I think it's because it's it needs to be narrow band.

And I'm like okay, and I So I did both of those things.

I switched it, switched the d emphasis off, and I changed it to narrow band twelve point five killer hertz and it worked worked great.

But that's interesting.

Yeah, It's it's very interesting because it worked great on local.

I can drive across town and hit an iGATE that's here locally, one of the big tall eye gates in the area, and it worked.

It worked fine before changing those settings.

So there's something specific to this I gate.

Many that why it requires those settings, I guess.

But ever since I changed out and it's working.

Another thing.

You're not sitting on top of those big wide area gateway or Gigi Peters, and you're probably sitting right there next to that I gave many.

I tried it so the I gate many I was most of the time, but I tried it with a distance too, like I would go in the house or go upstairs, or when I was at the Beltenham Expo a couple weekends ago, I left it running in the truck and I would go.

I'd walk a clear across the parking lot or walk inside the building several you know, on hundred and fifty yards away, and it still wouldn't.

I mean, you know, I would.

I got out of range because I'm just using a five white HT.

I got out of range of the DIGI of the of the eye gate where I couldn't hear it anymore and I couldn't hit it.

Anymore, and it's still you know, so i'd get back into range, barely in range, I still couldn't get it to work, all right.

So I don't know why that made a difference, but that is that's what that's what fixed it.

So fixed it, I guess, or that's what got it to work.

So all right, I plugged it back in.

Now we're on the GP nine to watch this thing.

This thing's gonna lie up parent a minute.

Watch all right.

So you can see up here in the top right it says live, but it's in red and then message it says connecting and yellow there on the on the right column.

So it's rebooting right now, there it is.

It's up.

It boots up pretty quick.

There it goes.

Okay, so now the live at the top right is turned green and we should see some stuff light up here in a second.

Yep, it's good.

Yep.

Oh okay, it's waiting for a GPS locked.

GPS says unlocked, so it takes it.

It takes it a minute or two to do that.

Don has a question, Okay, go ahead.

Does it tell you that you have a message waiting for you?

Yeah?

Uh, yes, you mean the iGATE So so you can do it with two ways.

Okay, you can send messages directly to and from the iGATE case five HWB Dash two, but generally speaking, I'm not looking at that.

Generally speaking, I'm using my Dash seven, which is APRS droid running connected to the to my UV pro here, So I am sending messages back and forth from Dash seven.

But yes you can.

Yeah, it'll tell you if there's a message waiting on Dash two, and you can.

You can totally do that.

Yeah, if you message my dash too, which is my digit Peter, I guarantee you I will never.

See that message, right right right.

I never looked at that unless something is wrong.

Right, Yeah.

So that's what I did.

When last time we were in Huntsville, I messaged Steve Molo k I k I four w W k R whatever his call sign is.

He has a digit, he's he has a dash to running.

So I sent him a message.

You see it.

It's going nuts now.

So he has a dashed and I sent him a message and he never he never got it.

And I text him a couple of days after that.

I was like, hey, did you ever like, oh no, that's my again.

I never looked at.

That it's.

Okay.

Hey, by the way, that's what I'm using for a p r S right now.

Yeah, and no, I have not lost my marbles.

Yeah.

So Jason's got a PRS working over a mestastic device and it is that's the newest video on your channel, right.

Yeah, that that one dropped two day or Friday.

It was the last video.

Yeah.

Does it store messages for anyone or only for Jason?

I don't what do you what are you talking about?

Store messages done?

Yeah, that's the second time like a store.

And forward type.

I don't think there's a store and forward type thing hooked up to it that I that I that I'm aware of, Like there's.

It would re If it's set up as a Digitpeter, it would digpeate messages for anybody.

So if I was near your truck and it heard me, then if somebody sent me a message, it would come through your Digitpeter and it would dig youpeat it to my.

Ht That's correct.

Yes, it will digitpeat messages and I gate messages for anyone who is close within range of it.

But it does not have a store and forward Uh.

Don if you're asked, because there are services you can get or maybe devices you can get that will do storing forward for APRS messages.

There's guys messing around with that type of thing, but this does not do it to my knowledge.

In a seven q is running a storing forward service on APRS, you address the message to mail.

I believe the syntaxes you put at and the call some the call sign a space, and then the message and it will store that message until that operator comes back online next.

Oh he's the one who runs that.

Yeah, okay, okay, for whatever reason, I'm not getting a GPS lock and I haven't moved the GPS antenna still up there.

I'll get a few more minutes.

I'm out reboot it.

We'll see.

So in a seven q is, I'm running his version of APRS droid, and he's got a couple added features today.

He's also the guy who's running that SMS service right now, yes, and the SMS or I went and tinkered with that, yees.

Yesterday I was I was messing around with this eyegate and I set the eye gate up next to uh, I haven't run in the truck, and I was in the house, and I'm like, okay, now that I know this is working.

Let me, I was sending messages to and from myself.

I would send an APRS message to my phone number and my phone would get it, and then I would reply from my phone in APRS droid, which also is on my phone.

So I was sending messages between apps and my phone, but it was going over APRS.

So I was talking to myself.

Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's exactly what I was doing.

Yeah, I don't I don't apologize for that either, but uh, Jason and I were messing with that.

Uh during uh, during my thirty days of ham radio, we were messing with it.

Like the next day I was, I sent him a message.

What did say like one zero two or something like that.

I said, I just pocket dolled you with APRS.

I bet you've never done that.

Pocket doll APRS just what you need, right, Uh.

So yeah, it's not uh it's not getting a GPS locked.

So that shouldn't impact your message receiving and sending messages.

Probably not.

I mean, it's uh it's uh so okay, let me try to So Mike Kid asked a minute ago, what's your call sign for this?

So the call sign on the uh the I gate is once again case five HWB Dash two, and then on my ht here it is Dash seven KC five HWB Dash seven.

So I've got apr asteroid running on my phone, which is connected via bluetooth to this UV pro.

Does that have a message screen that I gave many?

It does not.

No, No, it has a screen that gives you that info I told I said a minute ago, But as far as I know, it does not.

It doesn't have any other screen other than that.

You have to go.

You have to go into the web browser, which is what we're looking at right now to see the messages.

Okay, I don't know why it's shown up three times in there, but hello from Lakeland, Florida.

Hey, hey Jason, I got KO four pd I desh one, Hey Jason, I got you yep.

Okay, So now I'm starting to see messages on my phone.

Yep K four PDISH one W four JFS DASH ten, K nine Cmpdash eleven.

I see him on the iGATE because I gets passing traffic to my radio, and I also see him on the phone, so I'm seeing it, but generally speaking, I'm not watching the iGATE screen.

It's just running, and then I'll see him on the phone.

I don't know why it's shown up three times on the screen there, but but there you go.

K nine CMP K hey K five y V Y Hello from YVY goofball.

This is not clubhouse, sir.

I felt like it at the beginning.

Uh that kind of yeah, yeah, uh boo, there we go.

I'm gonna send him a message back.

So this isn't clubhouse.

You can see the message right there.

So k C five HW dash seven two, K five y V y dash one dash ones you're not supposed to be run dash one dude.

Uh, this isn't clubhouse, is the message I sent him.

So I got an acknowledgment from my radio.

UH A C two m I.

He's one of the developers that works with with UH with cs N Technologies A C two m I.

He he was on the zoom call with us, he says, not first, Uh, let's see has a tested iGATE for harmonics in five s KT says, watching y'all on YouTube, first time trying to message on a PRS from k Q four wtgnowledge made it.

Yeah howdy from East Tennessee k Q four q c J testing from Huntsville, w FO HBO testing testing from Huntsville.

Again.

That's another message from him K five YV.

Why says, ha ha ha, it's it's a lot faster.

Just read it right here on the iGATE screen because it's all shown up on my phone also, so yeah, it's yeah, it's it's my phone's buzzing away and you'll probably hear that.

Dude, dude, I.

Totally forgot how to turn it on on this I was gonna try to send you a message.

You might you probably, I don't think there's an iGATE close enough to you for an ht frank, Yeah, you can try it and see.

I was going to try it, but I I completely forgot how to turn it on.

I what it was on in Huntsville, and I was really enjoying it, but I couldn't key the radio and talk to someone because there was so much digital traffic.

I switched it off and I haven't messed with it since because I muted the digital noise.

But but it was just constantly receiving and on the second radio that I couldn't utilize it.

Yeah.

What I have found is that I've been carrying this UV pro with me connected to APRS droid pretty almost just about every day since Huntsville, since we were messing with it up there.

Oh there's Katie five fmu ham on, y'all, he says, And uh, I've noticed that, you know what, I I don't run anything.

I don't run.

I have this UV pro running on a channel that I just call APRS, and it's on I've got I've got dual watch turned off, so it's just the one channel, and that's all I use it for.

Because I've noticed that if you're running APRS droid, it's not smart enough to know that you are or are not on the APRS frequency.

You can go in if you're using the native APRS soft menus and software on the radio and till it only used channel thirty, or only use channel one or something like that, or only use the bottom band.

You can do that in the radio.

But if you're running APRS droid connected via T and C, the radio doesn't know what you're doing, so it's just gonna beacon at whatever frequency it's on.

So I just let mine run APRS and I don't use it for anything else.

So I ended up carrying two radios.

If I want to monitor one forty six five two or talk on a repeater.

I ended up having my my UV pro running APRS and some other ht with me.

So but oh Will, that's just kind of how it is.

Maybe one day I can figure out how to set it up in a way that you can tell it to monitor, tell it to listen to one forty six five two in the top band, but only connect to APRS droidan on the bottom band or something like that.

And if there's a way to do that, I don't know how to do it.

Don is trying to hack you, He said He's sent an APRS message to Jason with Lenne's commands.

Hell, whatever works, man, let's see so K E two D y L Hello from New York City, K three l A G enjoy the stream, K three jars.

Oh, Jeff, Good evening, Jeff, I saw you in the earlier Hello from doctor Greb greg A.

I five h V Broken Narrow, Oklahoma.

Great YouTube channel.

I will be in Broken Arrow next week.

What yeah, I asked you to take my stream for me next week, Frank, that's why?

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, So why don't you talk about that.

You got a plan for that, don't you?

Yes, I do.

Coming up next Sunday.

I finally got an answer back from Steve Alpha and Tennis.

Steve, he's gonna be coming on my live stream and we're gonna be talking about multiple different setups for his m Com one hundred and sixty meter two.

I forgot the bottom end.

I think it's ten meter antenna.

There is many different ways he recommends setting that antenna up, and we're gonna be talking about the pros.

We're gonna be talking about the cons of each setup, and we're gonna probably try to figure out which one I should do permanently in my background or my backyard that thing back there.

So it's gonna be fun.

We got a spammer in the chat.

Oh no, I allowed it.

I allowed it.

Turned that off, man, Come on, what's wrong with you?

Oh?

I can't do it in this pop up window?

That's yeah.

Those pop up windows suck, man.

I don't know what the deal is with that.

They don't give you all the menus and whatnot.

So I gotta go in there.

I'm gonna fix it here in a second, but I can't wait till that to next Sunday.

It's going to be a blast and it's gonna be fun.

Good.

Yeah, Glad you got to glad you got him going.

Thank you whoever knew that I did it, says a ck on my screen.

Okay, and.

I got another one, but that's coming up and tomorrow tomorrow.

It is the continuation of building my hamstick counterpoist system, where I'm building counterpoises for a hamstick, so I can build a non intrusive system that you can go out to any national park and set up and play radio on a table or anywhere.

Because we're not breaking the ground, we're not putting anything in the tree, we're not throwing anything into the tree.

We are just setting stuff up on the ground.

And you don't have to use a car, and you could comply with all that.

I got to go out and film it again because I failed and I forgot the tripod for it.

Yeah good.

Oh that's pretty cool.

Uh.

They're saying in the chat that they're working on a full fledged API for the I Gate Mini.

Oh that's fun.

So what is that nice?

So what what what will that enable?

I know what an API is, but what.

Is just just leave that to me in tank.

Yes, no, it'll allow you to use other software to interact with it.

Yeah okay, well yeah, yeah, so you'll be able to connect like yak or something or APRS droid.

Or you could have a piece of software that generated a packet and just send it over the APE to be forwarded out.

Gotcha, gotcha.

Okay, Okay, it'll depend on what all they open up in the API, but that's.

Still kind of cool.

Yeah that yeah, I mean obviously that's uh something.

They were making updates and progress and adding new features to it, so that's always good.

So tell us about how you're doing APRS over HF, Jason, I'm curious about that myself.

Using Vara HF and Yakka and then the YESO radio in the truck, so the eight ninety one connected up to the A toss.

It is a cumbersome setup the way I did it the first time, but it worked great.

So, but my setup required a laptop plus the digi rig plus the radio and then making sure everything stayed up and running.

HM.

So I know you're running.

I've tried it multiple times.

I was up at my daughter, which there's nowhere, there's not a digit Peter anywhere near her, and I ran APRS over HF the entire time I was there and sent messages received messages beacon It worked great?

Are you what radio?

Were you connecting with it?

The Yazoo eight ninety one while I was traveling and the seven o five once we got there.

So you were doing a QRP then yeah, yeah.

Well after I got there, I was just running ten whites.

Yeah, yeah, but no issues being heard.

And that's around the clock on forty meters during the day, I would get into Michigan and overnight I.

Might be getting into Washington State.

Because there's not a whole lot of there's not a whole lot of digit peters or gateways on HF.

You know, maybe six.

Of them, eight of them tops, but still on forty meters you can get into it around the clock.

Gotcha.

How can I ask how you did the APR S over and mestastic?

Did you use a pie or anything?

Because I know they do have some Raspberry pies that are able to run masstastic on, especially the new what is it hack not hacker five?

Spec five has the new something that is a a pr S.

It's not Delta what what is I.

Can't remember which model?

But this is a pike on spike.

Yeah, this is just a project on GitHub called APRS tastic.

I'm running it on a Pie zero two W and a hell Tech V three that doesn't even have a battery.

I just plugged it in USB USB.

Board, which gives it its power and that aprs tastic UH software.

Here's the messages once this device is registered it.

Here's the messages.

Sends it out, UH sends it out over the internet.

When it comes back, comes back over the internet, hits that heilltech and gives it.

To me on this one over RF.

Nice.

That's play cool.

Yeah, and Frank gets a I mean, if you watch the video I'll put out, it's literally you could have it stood.

Up and running in an hour.

Oh that's easy.

That's easy.

So Spec five has a device with it built in already.

Yeah, the new Spec five Strike.

It is a Raspberry Pie with a full keyboard, and there's an option where you can also get it with AH the OS loaded on a SD card and it comes in many different colors and it's pretty cool.

They they they offered me to a quick demo unit for a while, and I said, you know what, I don't have the time right now to do it justice.

But I gotta I gotta follow up with Daniel because he and I were working on something and then I started thirty Days Am Radio.

They were fled messages for like a month a month, But hey, do you have it?

You tank?

Do you know if that will interface with a p r S the way they've got it out of the box.

I don't know, Okay, I don't know.

It's most of this mostly built and tailored for uh mestastic, So if you can figure out how to get that on a antenna, then sure.

The link and the description for the device is wrong.

What what Lincoln?

What Lincoln?

Not your not yours?

Oh?

Linked the description?

Oh that's because we restarted the stream down when uh yeah, we hit we we had that hiccup, and we restarted the stream.

So I am going to when the when the live stream ends, I will go back and fix all that, including the thumbnail and all that stuff.

I do want some more time, Jason and I can so I can start playing with this stuff and coding and and trying to do cool stuff again.

But new jobs, new.

Jobs, Oh I hear you?

Yeah?

Well, he and Daniel had texted me a couple months ago and asked me about something.

I'm not going to reveal what it is yet and I was like, yeah, I can work with you on that, and then September happened for me and I just kind of lost track of everything.

But I need to, uh, I need to follow up with him on that.

So I want to get I want to get one of those units that t O had it in Colorado that has the solar panel and the and the magnets on it, and I want to take the magnets off of it and put t channel nuts on it and bolt it to my roof rack on the truck and that I'm going to have that as my mobile meshtastic node.

I want to do that, and I just haven't.

I haven't followed up with him yet.

So but that's that's where that is so nice yep.

So yeah, I and the Triple the triple messages.

I don't know what that was about.

Maybe because I moved it.

I don't know.

It does have a gpslock.

Now we're good there.

In fact, you can see over there on the right hand side of the screen it says it's connected to seven satellite or it's seeing seven satellites right now.

I just rebooted it.

If you go in here to settings down here at the bottom you can't see it at the screen.

If if I roll the screen, yeah, there we go.

I get many men.

You can get to the manual if you change log backup settings, update firmware.

When they come out with firmware, you just click on update firmware and download the file from their website and you just load it right in here manually and you're done.

It's easy.

Factory reset.

I don't know why you'd want to do that unless you're selling it reboot, save and clothes.

I did confirm with them that pulling the power from the device does not hurt the device, so if you want to just unplug it and move it somewhere, Supposedly that because you're always I'm always leary of just pulling the power from a Raspberry pie device because you know, pie Star doesn't like that.

But they claim that pulling the power from it because I was like, where's the graceful shut down?

It has a reboot button down here, but not a graceful shut down, and they say you don't need it, so but yeah, now now the triple message thing is gone.

So I've got K nine d l O k Q four r t B k Z four I t W zero.

J W have you heard of is it cats?

That might be a question for you, Jason, have you heard of have you heard of cats?

A possible replacement for A X twenty five?

I have not.

I've never heard of that either cats.

That either says C A T S or C A T five.

It might say see not CAT five.

I don't think I think it's cats.

It's all caps, so I assume that's an acronym for something.

I didn't see that question.

Don' to ask you for.

No, that's the case I got.

I got the I got that question through an APRS message.

He's asked what Yeah.

The A the file for the three D pretty casey.

D oh yeah, so uh they sent me that as well.

Hold on, let me find it.

Hold on a second, I'll find it.

I'll find it.

It's on I think it's on Maker World.

Hold on, we're holding any other questions?

Oh, I'm scrolling through here.

I was looking for that other one.

Which one?

Uh?

The one you just read what you answered.

I don't see anything popping out at the moment, okay, other than we smashed and I band hammered that spammer.

Yeah, I saw that prep Pam Paul was quick quick on the draw on that one as well.

So all right, here we go for that.

So this is the yeah, created by Mark Hale and put a link in the chat right now for that case.

This is what they sent me see us and sent me this, Yeah, and I've just goten it prints.

It has little buttons down there.

He printed a different color.

Like I said, I printed mine in pet G because I knew I was gonna leave in the truck.

I don't have any problems with leaving pet G in the truck.

It works great, but some stuff there, but that's it.

And it prints in like forty five minutes.

It's pretty quick.

Mm hmm awesome.

Yeah, okay, so what else I'm seeing all these messages you guys are sending in one xws W A two and d N DV.

So I got a question.

If you do APRS messaging simplex, mm, can that count as a PoTA contact?

It certainly should.

I mean obviously you'd have to be in range of someone.

Yeah, that'd be like making that would be like making a FM simplex contact.

Yeah, and that's so that's valid.

Yeah, Yeah, that's a valid contact.

So it certainly should.

I don't know if there's a I don't know if that's a mode that they have listed on the Poto website for that or not.

Water Flea.

I like that name, says PLA warps in my car.

Yes, same here.

Found that one out the hard way with one of those old blue DV devices several years ago.

If you want to test anything plastic, send it to us here in Texas.

Right, yeah, yeah, Arizona, Arizona has the same problem.

Yes, sir, Back to your APRS PODA.

If you just changed your path you take out the wide one one two to one, that wouldn't be direct, so they would have to hear you over simplex in order for that to work.

Oh, there you go.

That takes the digipeter completely out of it.

That's good.

Which one both of them?

Yeah, the one one and the two one?

Yes, take both of them ount okay, take both of them out, and.

Then you would only hear it if you heard it direct.

Just don't forget to change it back after you're done, right, But you could literally call CQ with a CQ group message using APRS and doing it strictly over simplex without the digiped coming into play.

So to explain what the group message are you said that a couple of times and I haven't heard this term before.

Okay, So APRS has a group message capability at least most of the devices, not all of them.

For instance, APRS droid has not added this feature yet.

But there are certain groups that are default in a radio.

So like all the Yes radios have yazu as a group, but you can go in there and change and modify those groups to be anything you want them to be.

Another one of the default groups is QST.

So if you send a message to that group, and almost all the radios have CQ in it, if you send a message, an APRS message to CQ, anybody that is subscribed to that group will receive your message, so that there's.

Local or just yes if it is a gate okay.

Local no local only.

It will not go through the internet.

Do if you sent CQ, you could line up every radio.

And yeah, yeah, that would be right.

That's what I like to do.

Like those people at your job that that say please stop replying to all, and they keep replying to all, And that's what that would be like the APRS version, if please stop replying to all.

My favorite reply to that is to remove yourself off the chain, edit the subject line and put to lead me by fast all the filters and get it popping up again.

Oh my goodness, that's funny.

But yeah, that's ah, that's what a group message is.

You know what I'll do if that that CQ worked and triggered all the radios at the same time.

Oh, but it's not a voice message.

I just put tank radio.

You just put it all in cap Yeah.

Uh, thank you John for the super chat.

You want to have some fun.

Change your mikey message to emergency.

Hey, okay, okay, that's a good question.

Explain to me what mike E is because I'm confused.

I've heard a couple of different definitions.

It's some compressed format that really never took off.

Basically, you can put a very short message in there.

The defaults are things like in service, out of service, returning, but there's also an emergency feature in Frank I was joking about that.

Don't do it unless you know what you're doing.

I actually did a video on it.

That's how we learned, right, We just do things and see what that will happen.

No, No, that's like dolling nine to one one to see what happens.

I don't try it.

Yeah.

No, If you go in and turn on the mike E emergency, it will literally light up every APRS radio, including those through a digipeter not an iGATE, and it will give a special screen on there.

One of my radios, I think it was the FtM four hundred, had a flashing red border around it and said emergency message.

So you're literally.

Lighting up every single radio around.

That might just be useful information to have, what if you need to get a message.

Actually, if you actually need that, it is it is.

I did a video on it.

I think the thumbnail was like alerting one hundred mobile or one hundred radios at once.

But it's in my APRS playlist.

Awesome, I'm applying to all everything.

I'm replying to all these messages from my phone right now.

By the way.

By the way, if anybody else is curious, how I tested that, I put all of my radios on another frequency.

I did not do it on one three doney and then the radio that I was transmitting from was on a dummy load.

So that's the safe way if you want to play with it, but make sure you turn it off before you go back to the main frequency.

Nice.

Absolutely, yeah, nice dog.

Thank you for the tarp chat.

It was kind of cool to see it work.

Mm hm cool.

So you can so if I was to send, in fact, I'm gonna do that right now.

If I was to send Frank a message, I would send it to list.

Is that right?

Can I send it?

What's that storing forward?

When that we were just talking about mail?

Mail?

That's right, mail, So I will send because I send a message to mail and I put a pr SM and it comes back and it says you don't have any message messages stored.

Yeah, that's if you're checking your message.

Yeah.

Uh.

You can also just put ap mail in your comment and anytime you Beacon if you've got a message, it'll it'll alert you or actually goes ahead and forwards you that message.

But you send it to mail.

And then in the beginning of the body, you put the AT symbol and his call sign a space and his message and the male system should reply and say message left four tank radio.

Do you have to put it a ss idea dash number after it?

No?

Okay, all right, So I'm sending that right now and you should see it pop up on the screen at KG five h J testing during the live stream I have enabled.

Now you will not.

You probably won't see it, Frank, until the next time you are near an iGATE.

Okay, well, and he either has to check for that message or he has to have ap mail in his comment.

Ap ap mail in the comment yeah okay, one.

Of those two send a message with ap.

Mail message left for KG five.

HJ Mail just replied to me, yeah okay.

So Frank in your aporus comment, you have to put the word ap mail alpha papa mail all one word.

Oh god, it's sending a message on this days bad.

I forgot and I did settings on here that I can't reproduce on the phone.

Hey, in another up?

What another cool one?

Another cool one?

Somebody sent me a message K one BW DASH fourteen.

Another cool one, Frank, is to put wind link in your comment.

If you do that, if you have any pending wind Link messages, it will alert you through ap R s MM.

Yeah, don't don't message me through wind link.

I don't have that set up yet.

A p.

Mail did you have?

You do you have a wind Link account?

Frank?

No, Oh, you totally need to do that.

I thought you had one, all right, So Jeff case s zero JD in the in the chat is asking is there a cheat sheet with all of these tricks?

And yes there is.

And guess where I got that from?

Jason shared that on an APRS anti forum or whatever the heckto called it at Huntsville last August a couple months ago.

So I and I took a picture of that, and I know I've got it here somewhere there's my bourbon stash from the there it is right there, there, it is right there all right.

So here I was, uh, well, no I'm not showing you that, okay, So right here I thought it was good.

Okay, So find, we'll tell you when an operator was last heard.

So if you send a message to find and then so in the two field you put fined and then the body I guess you just put do you put the AT symbol or just the call sign?

I'm sorry, I wasn't listening find.

Oh yeah, in the.

Body you just put the uh you just put the call sign with a specific SSID that you want to check.

Gotcha, okay?

So that's uh yeah, In fact that it says that right here too, fine body call sign plus SSID, who is well return the operator's name, class in state, WXBOT get weather based on your current location, repeat, get local repeater info.

That's cool.

I didn't see that.

I don't remember that one.

M PAD, Mike, Papa, Alpha Delta too much to list.

See this page?

Okay, yeah, that has got a lot of different commands you can send to it.

I was actually looking for and I can't find it.

That web page?

Is that where you got this?

No?

Well I created a web page.

Oh you know what, I think people can scan that QR.

How about the QR code right there?

Yeah?

Yeah, so that.

Should take them too.

Yeah, that particular web page.

Yeah, yeah, there, you go scan the QR code on the screen right now, guys, because people are asking, can, uh, how do I get that?

This one was cool as you can get the next ISS pass based on your location if you send a message to ISS.

I thought that was pretty You satellite guys should be constantly checking that an server does group messaging.

APRES Thursday uses this for check ins.

I did a video on APRS.

I've done a couple of videos on APRS Thursday, and then join group CQ group lead group is you group list returns which group you belong to?

That kind of thing.

So, yeah, scan that QR code on the screen right there.

I'll leave that up there for a minute or two.

I'm gonna drop another link in the chat.

Okay.

It's got a lot of various APRS information on it, links to videos that I've done, and that talks about some of these different services and things that you can do.

Awesome.

Yeah, this is really helpful.

I mean, that's why I took a picture of this cheat sheet that Jason had it at the Hamfest.

I was like, man, there was a lot I had.

I had heard about about a third of these, and there was several in that like iss, I'd never heard of that before.

I've done APRS Thursday.

I knew about that, and I knew about the group.

In fact, I've been sending group messages if I think about it, I'll get out in the truck in the morning and I'll send a SEK message around here and I'll just say good morning, mid Cities and uh, some some guy the other day I guess it was two days ago.

I got a group message and he goes Happy Friday.

They sent it to CQ.

I'm like, yes, people are starting to send group messages in my area.

So, uh, does that work with APRS droid.

So yes, but not direct.

So aprs droid cannot receive group messages.

But it was like the mail command works fine with aprs droid.

I know, I don't know about the rest of those, but the group but the But if you go into the log if you click on the log icon and you see all this stuff scrolling by and apure astroid, it will show you a group message in the log It just didn't show up in the message list.

I'm hoping that's something that the apr astroid guys add soon.

I would very much like to see apr astrooid support group messaging.

The repeater command is neat it's there.

Is there one only for hospitals or any nearby locals.

Don't know about that.

All right.

I just found a link to that page and put it in the chat in case somebody couldn't scan the.

Q rcade aprs bots.

Okay, yeah, that's it.

Okay, there we go.

Sweet, that's it right there.

I have hundreds of web pages published, so took me a minute to locate it.

Yeah, yeah, I got you.

Let me mute that guy.

That guy's talking about thoughts.

I have not Jordan, and I have not there you go, I'm not.

I'm not trying ISS through APRS droid.

You know what.

Let's try it and see ISS in the call sign list, and then the message just needs to be I don't uh body is next?

Oh?

Next?

Like next pass?

Okay?

Yeah, it should work because you're just sending a message, is all you're doing, right, all right, So in fact, anything listed on that page should work with APRS droid.

The only thing that doesn't work correctly right now is group messages.

Okay, good, good to know.

Okay, yeah, you see how that does that.

Sometimes it'll like lose connection then reconnect.

They claim that that's the browser doing that.

I don't know.

Sometimes it's still working though, because I'm still getting messages, even though the web page says it's not gonna like it'll come right back, it'll refresh itself.

There it is.

Yeah, see I just sent is s next, so it had it hasn't uh acknowledged me yet, but it's gone out over the internet, so it should come back in a minute.

Yeah.

And uh, Jason, you've got a you've got a deep dive APRS droid video, don't you.

Yes, specific for the n a seven Q.

Fork right right.

I was watching part of that the other day, and a lot of really good APRS droids, very very powerful.

It does a lot of stuff.

So you can't message the ISS yet with the I with the I gate Mini.

Hmm, okay.

Next, I wonder why that is okay for kt H.

There's Joe Brett again in zero RXG.

Howdy from the digipi KF eight d z M got your message to what APRS client do I miss?

Do operate on the Panasack tablet in your trug APRS droid APIs droid.

In fact, I have a little man pack that I've built.

I haven't done a video about it yet.

That's probably gonna be something I'm gonna be using at the Hunting Lease next month.

I have a gigabarts bag and I took that N seventy five hundred VGC radio and h and I bought a new Android, a dedicated Android tablet, and I put all that together and I'm probably gonna add an edpung roll up j poll to it.

And I had that in a pack for a while at a two meter pack and that.

Yeah, so I'm just gonna use that as a portable APRS station.

Uh, you can with the APRS droid.

You can set it up to work as a digipeter.

You can set it up to work as an iGATE itself if you're out of iGATE range or whatever.

So you can do a lot of different stuff with that.

So I'm gonna and then I'll have a tablet and what I want to do is put one of those in the truck and have the tablet on road trips, have the tablet running next to my r finder tablet which is running my mapping software.

But then have APRS droid running one hundred percent of the time on a road trip so that someone messages me.

It'll also do uh, that setup that I just described will also do since it's Bluetooth T and C.

It'll also do wind Link.

So you get in range of a wind Link gateway, disconnect dpr as droid, change your frequency on the radio to the wind Link gateway to packet wind Link gateway on two meters or for forty I guess, and open up WAD on your tablet and check your windlenk mail while you're on the road.

Well, I mean you're already running an iGATE on starlink.

You might as well, build a wind link gateway as well, put in a truck.

Yeah, they frown on that.

They don't like mobile wind link gateways.

So I mean no, no, I want to I want to do that.

I legit want to do that, and I want to run.

I don't know.

I'm sure there is I don't know what it is.

They want the nodes that are listed on the web page to be up twenty four to seven pretty much.

There's a way to get it to where you could.

You can you can apply to use one in like a temporary setup, like an emergency situation, like you could like like after Hurricane Helen, they would have let you deploy one in that area.

But I don't know, I don't know what.

I don't know what the stipulations behind that are.

But there's a way to do it.

But it's not a full time thing.

It's like a temporary deployment type thing.

Mm hmm.

So okay, well I think that this is Yeah, I didn't get a I didn't get a message back from next from a ISS next yet.

Does it have to be on the ISS frequency or can you can do that on this?

Do you do it on the standard frequency?

That's what I remember, these are services, and these services can go down.

I tried to send a message to w x bot the other day and never got a reply, and I know it wouldn't my system because I sent another one to MPa out and got a reply immediately.

The next day, I tried it again and it was back up and running.

So, I mean, all of these services are running on a computer.

There can be.

Glitches right right, Okay, good.

Or getting slammed right now because everyone's trying to do it.

Or we've we've sent two hundred and sixty eight people over there and they're all doing it right now at the same time.

After my Impad video, we literally crashed the IMPAD server.

See, yeah, that is the thing.

I've I've crashed the pack Tennis site before.

I'm proud to say I'm pretty proud of that fact.

Actually, So, yeah, I know what that's like.

But right, Calin, that's correct.

I wasn't sending a message that.

Yeah.

So the ISS has its own APRS system, server repeat or whatever, and it's on a different frequency and you can talk to those guys or send messages to them or whatever, but you got to get on their frequency.

That's not what we're doing.

That's not what I was trying to do.

So all right, well this has been Yeah.

I just got a reply from the ISS immediately when I sent that.

Let's double check make sure you didn't fat finger something because I sent it to ISS.

I gave it next in the body and it tells me AOS, we'll be passing overhead in six hours and forty minutes, so it'll give you whatever the next satellite is.

I believe.

Maybe that's just I can't remember exactly what the information is on that, but it didn't tell me six hours and forty minutes from now.

So I see an ISS message on my iGATE screen, but it never came through in my APRS Druid.

Packing collision.

Possibly it says pass.

It's got a bunch of garbled goog in it.

Sixty six W message four PASS.

I don't know, huh, okay, yeah, it's probably.

And you know I'm sitting here sending messages to a dozen people at the time, so you know that that's not going to present a problem, right, No, No, all right, so yeah, fun with APRS.

It does work.

It works, uh works very well.

Actually, I really like I really like APRS.

In fact, I uh I sent an APRS message.

I think it was it.

I sent it at Dayton, I know, I think I sent it at Huntsville too.

I was like, hey, are you guys on mestastic.

Why don't you get on APRS.

We'll do a lot more on APRS than we can on mestastic.

But uh, yeah, it's a fun.

It's a fun I have.

I have fun with it.

Yeah, now is is sending messages to my server, but they're not coming through on my droid.

I don't know why.

So okay, no worries, all right, So yeah, you guys use the APRS.

I will be monitoring my APR.

I'm I've pretty much like I said, I've said on several videos, I carry this with me just about every day.

If I'm at home, I'm not I'm not usually looking at it much.

But yeah, Jeff, we were already we're already talk about APRS and mestaestic.

We talked about that earlier, and yes, we can do both.

GP mech seven absolutely.

Yeah, I was doing both.

Some people were doing mestestic and on APRS.

So the people who weren't doing both is who I was talking to just then.

But yeah, this, but I pretty much carry this with me when I leave the house now and I'm running APRS droid on it and UH and it's working really really good.

And now that I've got all the messaging and stuff working in the UH in the truck, this this gateway is going to go back in the truck tomorrow and I'll be on APRS messaging a lot more.

In fact, I I have had I've had my yes FtM five hundred not beaconing, but it's but a the APRS modems on.

It's just turned I just turned the beconing off and I receive group messages and individual messages and I've been doing that pretty much since Huntsville.

Also, I don't think i've turned that radio off since Huntsville and been I've been really enjoying the APRS traffic and activity that I've been getting on that radio since then.

So that's been working really well too.

Sweet yep, Nick as asking does that radio have a built in TNC?

I think he's asking about Ye.

Yes, yeah, it has a Bluetooth TNC.

It sure does.

It absolutely does.

Sweet So.

Yeah, yeah, so so somebody as Nick, somebody was asking me the other day.

Somebody sent me an email.

They're like how do I get that to work?

How do I connect APRS STORID to my FT five?

And I'm like, as far as that goes, FT five is no better than just a Balfang radio because it doesn't have a TNC.

So there's a difference between a radio that has APRS menus, which this has that too.

Hey, Jason, Yeah, it's got a it's got a tn C, it's just not accessible.

To the user, right correct, Yeah, I mean like like a kiss T and C right, like like one you can connect to.

So it's got its own internal tn C.

That that that the Yazoo menus can work, but you can't connect to it with an external device.

It doesn't have an open T and C.

So and FT five is there's nothing wrong with an FT five.

It's a great radio.

You can message from it.

It's kind of cumbersome in the menus.

I think the D seventy five and D seventy four have great APRS menus.

I think those are very good APRS menus.

But but the D seventy five and seventy four also have an open kiss T and C, so you can connect to it via Bluetooth and run APR as droid, or you can do win leak also.

So so unless you're unless your radio has an open T and C that you can connect to either via USB on the bottom the phone or well USB on the radio rather or via Bluetooth, then you're better off getting a B tech radio, a D seventy five or like a mobile linked four bluetoo TNC, or a digibrig did you rigs probably the least expensive option.

You can get a digibrig light and connect it to via get the cables for the specific radio you've gotten, and connect it to your phone via USBC, and you can do all of this stuff.

He Dennis had that set up running at Huntsville.

He had a digirig lack connected to an old JAESU twenty nine hundred or something like that and connected to an Android tablet and he was beacon in APRS with that with a digitbrig light at Huntsville.

So you could do it that way too.

There's multiple options, but this one is definitely one of the easiest options.

I think.

I think it is.

Sweet.

Any other suggestions.

Or whiskey?

Yeah, when will we see a B tech version of the N seventy six hundred more?

Well, that is a good question.

I'm kind of surprised they haven't done that yet.

I do not know the answer to that, but I've got the VGC.

I've got the seventy five hundred and the seventy six hundred both.

You're harping back to earlier.

You're talking about pushing channels over the next milestone.

I'm only I'm yelling at myself thirty away from seven thousand.

Oh good, yes, thirty thirty thirty.

Well, we got two hundred and fifty people watching.

Herein so head over to take radio.

Share the link.

Franks, go ahead, subscribe.

And thirty more subscribers.

That's good before we hit seven thousand.

Also, a little channel news coming up this week on the twenty third is the Tank Radio Meeting.

Is the highest subscriber memory level on Patreon and also YouTube.

We'll have a meeting and we'll just sit down and talk to with all my tank commanders.

That's fun and I can't really wait.

And I'm so bummed I failed at it to give a shout or give a try to my antenna system that I built from scratch.

It's just it failed, and I forgot a tripod.

We'll see if I could find some time this week, but I probably won't.

I thought that'd be great going to the park and having this bless with a support park weekend.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, totally totally not happen.

M Sweet, I'm getting got about five six subscribers.

I need to watch the live call.

I have to agree with Don on this one.

Frank's problem is that he won't get an All Star.

If he did, he would have more subscribers.

I agree with that.

I think that's very a very good point, very good point.

There's so many repeaters around me that already have dm R and all the other back ends.

It's not all Star, I give you that, But I think all Star shines, shines when you're in the boonies and that's the only way to get out.

Yep.

So I'm not a denier.

I'm a practice being, practical practitioner.

No, that's something else that kaym Or enjoyed the live stream.

I think he ducked out as soon as he saw what it was about.

I think everybody, I think everybody on the live stream, deny in the comments, needs to send kat m r D an email with a link to this video.

Yes, yes, I'm gonna send him a message just because.

That Marty at cloud dot Com.

Yep, yeah, yeah, that's it.

But do it through the the email over HF because he had does have that set up.

Oh that's true.

We could send it through wind Lake.

Yeah, you can send him a win lak.

Yeah, most definitely.

Uh huh.

All right, Jason, what's coming up on your channel?

Hmmm?

Uh?

An offset attenuator will be the next video out.

Okay, off set attenuator.

See, I'm surprised that's a number of people that don't know this.

It helps you when your direction finding.

Yeah, so it gets you to puts you just off frequency and then you continuate the signal.

Gotcha?

Okay ye see Frank New.

Okay, makes sense.

Frank New, Frank New.

It's in the name.

Honestly, I do want to build an attenuator.

Did you get a kit or did you custom design this?

They are thirty five bucks built already, it was like twenty seven If I bought.

The kit, can you send me that link because I would love to put that together on my channel.

Yeah, I'll do that, m h.

And then I would drive up to what is it?

Don keeps yelling at me the Richardson Club.

But Richardson Club does the Fox Hunts every weekend.

There's a few clubs around here that do that.

But yeah, yeah, yeah, good.

I think the McKinney Club also does that.

Quilo Quebec for Quebec.

Charlie Juliette says he sent a kamrd a wingleak message via APRS email about a month ago, got a response back.

He does check his wind leak mail.

He does.

He does do that.

That's true.

So good told you.

I know, I got another couple subscribers.

We're going up believe fifteen away.

Now good, he's getting there, gitting there, Jason, thanks for joining us.

I know it was last minute, so I appreciate you jumping on tonight.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I never turned down APRS.

Christ not exactly.

Yeah, so yep, but this is fun.

So yeah, Like I said, I'm gonna be monitoring this more lately and or coming up well in the future.

I have been lately and I will continue to do so.

So you guys get on APRS and send me some messages and whatnot.

Send me a win link.

Also, Casey five hw you Dash two is still showing in Huntsville.

I may have.

Because he sent you because he sent you a message, or you sent him one, it will show up on his stuff or it will beacon out in Huntsville.

It wouldn't ordinarily, But because you guys exchanged a message that triggered it.

Huh, that's weird.

Okay, yeah, it took me.

Took me.

It took me a little while to figure that one out.

Yeah.

Well, if you look at if you look at the grid, I'm echo Mike twelve.

That's where I'm at right now.

So it's because you guys exchanged a message, I see.

Okay, okay, Interstellar Starman.

I do new content every week on my channel, so and I think that is pretty good.

A live stream one weekend, a video the next.

I'm trying to come up with good ideas to release sort videos again, like I used to to have a video a week.

But the the the smaller intervidio vo videos, the numbers are just poor.

And that's why I stopped doing them, because I thought it was degrading the value of the channel.

I hear you.

I've done that before too.

So all right, guys, seventy three to all, it's eight.

I don't know if Paul's going live or not.

Check out Pam Paul's channel.

He's usually going live about right now on Sundays.

He was in the chat earlier, so he's probably wandered over to his own channel by now, So uh, you guys go check him out, and uh, we'll see you on APRS this week.

Later, later, y'all, seven thirty and seven, three th