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You, Jeff?

Hello, journey Boy.

You look good, baby, Thank you.

I appreciate that.

So you you've got the McMurtry look going on.

I like it.

We're gonna We're gonna commit you.

You might have to elect you.

Shock me after this week.

We got so much to get it to going on in the world of.

Too much for Christmas, Hollywood?

What the fuck I know?

Man, there's so much happening in the world of the Netflix WV Paramount stuff.

There's more details on that have popped up over the last few days.

As if it's a story that will not end.

There's even more popping up on that.

We're gonna get.

Into some first reactions for test screenings for Supergirl Avengers Doomsday trailer dropped in some theaters in some showings, but not all showings.

Uh, and we're gonna get into some reviews.

We get some reactions to trailers.

We're gonna get into all that here on this particular show, and of course the Oscars on YouTube like all of it.

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But let's wait a little bit before we get into the metior stuff.

Jeff, how are you, How are you feeling?

How are thanks you having in the preview coming up in your newsletter for people to know as we're heading into the weekend.

I'm so like behind in the newsletter.

There's just so many weighty topics to tackle.

I haven't even like wid in on the Oscars YouTube thing.

I haven't.

I have been struggling with my Rob Reiner tribute, just have like haven't had any time Like I mean, you go to see Avatar, it takes it for a whole week.

Sure we are gonna review Avatar on the show Avatar fire and ash on the show, or as I might like to call it, Avatar fire and ass.

All right, let's get into a couple of things, Jeff, to start off before we get into the meat of our show.

Here, this just popped off.

This was announced Paul King will be doing a La Boo Boo movie.

If you can believe this, Jeff, this is legitimately happening.

This is what's being said up here.

Sony is doing the movie, but they've brought in Paul King to direct it.

So it's interesting thing for those who know the Boo Boos are.

They are collectible designer toy figures, a mischievous, wide eyed care that's created by illustrator Casing Lung.

They're known for their fair tale meets creepy aesthetic and are produced in many theme versions by brands like Pop Mart.

So an interesting choice chef to bring in Paul King.

I guess if you're gonna stop people ridiculing that the fact that you're doing one, you bring in someone with a note who's done Paddington, who's done a number of films here that have been received well by the audience.

You're amy for, Paul King, What are you doing.

What do you do?

I mean, you're better than this and we all know it.

This is I guess one of the dangers of making family films is once you start, it's tough to get off the treadmill.

This is a terrible I mean, nobody wants this movie.

I don't know who is clamoring for this.

A movie based on a fad, a collect it's like being a pog movie or something.

Nobody When I say Pog, no one has.

The audience doesn't even know the hell I'm talking about.

It's true, It's true.

The boo boos.

Yeah, like it's just like Paul King.

What happened to like Wanka two?

Where's that movie?

Yeah?

Good question, good question.

Yeah, Shalomy is too busy out here telling you how great he is.

He doesn't have time to sit down and make a walk of two.

For it is great, okay, I mean he deserves all the chocolate in his pockelt Serious, Brooklyn, you made me laugh?

Yeah, I just I was.

I'm not surprised that like Sony's making a Labula movie, but I am surprised that they That was Siri.

I think Siri confused when I said Sony shut up, Siri.

It was like, is there someone else in this apartment with me right now?

Yeah, I'm not surprised Sony is making a movie, but I am surprised that they got someone like Paul King to do it.

This just seems like top shelf like dream ask And I can't believe he said, yes.

There must have been They must have seen that there.

They must have, you know, offered him a lot of money to do it, and Kiley Walka made six hundred and thirty four million dollars worldwide.

I'll tell you no one thought that was gonna happen.

And so maybe there is a kind of a quid pro quo and like pay me this amount because I can clearly make you money, and Sony's like, yeah, we should pay up if we're going to do a good version of this movie, which could lead to multiple installments of the franchise.

We saw this with Cabbage Patch Kids.

We've seen this, Jeff, this, and this goes around at whatever the fat is you can make.

Angry Birds got a damn movie, so, you know, the.

Booboo animated movie, And this would make more sense to me if it was an animated movie.

But it's live action, right.

Yeah, it's live action, so all right, maybe it.

Needs to see this in a couple of years or whatever.

Sure you will.

Maybe Ben Wisha will come back and do the voice of the main lab boo boo.

We will see.

All right, let's see what else have we got to get into here before we get going into the main stuff?

Is there anything else we should probably?

All right, fine, let's get into it.

Let's do it, all right, Jeff, this has happened this week, paramounts.

It looks like Netflix is selecting is hold even it's hold even more on WB with some of the stuff that went down this week.

Here there was a back and forth between Paramount and Warner Brothers, Paramount accusing WB of withholding stuff.

Then they went to the stockholders to try to say, like, you know, you're being screwed up.

WB pushes back and says, no, that's not true.

And now you've got Ted Sarah Sorrando's visiting David Zaslov on the lot there and they're doing their classic let me point at something while you take a photograph look, And basically this seems like they're making it very clear that they are buddy buddy, and this is all happening, and Paramount can do whatever they want, even try to raise the price, and it's not going to be enough because of some of the things they're saying here.

What do you think, jem, I mean, I think they're moving forward as plan.

I don't think that this photo.

I'm not going to like read too much into this photo.

It's kind of standard when you're buying a studio to meet the other side and take a look at what you're getting and talk about things.

But yeah, I'm sure you think it's really Like David Ellison's sitting there on Twitter and he sees this photo pop up and he's like, oh, I'm really not getting it now.

I mean, I don't think he's getting it anyways.

I think one hundred percent David Elson is on Twitter.

I think one hundred percent he's on his photo, and I think one hundred percent he lost his shit in the in the room.

Absolutely, come on, Not Larry Allison wouldn't, but David Ellison would absolutely do this.

Like a private eye taking a photo of like your wife cheating on you with another man.

I'm like, no, No.

The fact that they're doing photos this publicly though, to me, says they're basically sending the message, you can do what you want.

We're moving forward without.

You that thing.

Yeah, I mean, I guess a photo is worth a thousand words.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, what do you think they were talking about?

There?

Is that like Ted pointing, like, and that's where we'll put the Demon Hunter's Cafe, And what do you do?

That's where we're going to tear down that theater in turn it into another Netflix screening room.

This is what we're gonna put.

We're gonna put that franchise on YouTube, on Netflix streaming service, and that franchise, nothing's gonna see that the But they did say they came out with the statement though Jeff Netflix did saying that they are gonna keep the teams intact.

A lot of people meant that, took that to mean that James Gunn and Peter Saffern worst thing.

Forget any other teams, forget any other executives, forget Mike and Pan, It's all about James Gunn.

See.

But what I mean, do you buy what they're selling here or is it more a matter of like they're just saying this stuff now to make everybody feel better about it.

They're doing some some it, some.

Pr work on this whole thing.

Or do you think they really are going to keep the teams exactly as they are on the Water Brothers side of things, and they're just gonna get into theatrical as Sarahdos keeps saying, or Sarandosa.

Others just have one of the greatest years in the history of the theatrical motion picture.

Business Warner Brothers did.

Yeah, So do you think that they're just gonna get rid of everybody in clean house?

But that's what a lot of people thought.

Yeah, that's why you guys are smart, and you're listening to the Hot my podcast where we present logic and sense.

Yes, after this year where Warner Brothers just got up to the plate and they swung and it was a home run, and they'd try to bunt and the ball would go over the fence.

Yeah, everything was a home run.

So yeah, they're keeping the fucking executive teams in place.

Do you think it'll last?

Do you think that they're doing this for now?

Nothing Like everything is temporary.

All these seats are temporary, and everybody.

Knows that's true.

That's true.

So yeah, I think the James Gun will end up working for Netflix.

Yes, Warner Brothers a Netflix company.

Yes, and Mike de Luca and Pam will as well.

They're not like you're not saying there'd be like we can't wait to install Dan Lynn and have Dan Lynn's Warner Brothers slate.

That is not what's happening.

U.

Yes, they definitely want their their They want to be in business with Mike and Pam and James and Peter and people who are churning out hits.

That's why Netflix is like this whole time.

Netflix was never interested in a studio.

Supposedly right right now they are interested.

Maybe it's because, oh, this is how it's done, like when when you do it, well, this is what it looks like.

Yeah, exactly, one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

Netflix also released a new survey with Morning Consults on the Water Brothers acquisition, and this is what they found.

Americans support the Netflix Warner Brothers deal by nearly three to one.

Forty four percent of Americans believe the combination will increase the variety of shows and movies available, compared to fifteen percent who don't.

Forty seven percent of Americans poll said they are more likely to support the deal to improve streaming quality from Netflix's technology come by Water Brothers Content versus ten percent who said they're less likely to support the deal, and Water about movies being on Netflix is the most exciting prospect about the combination.

So all of our well a lot of our fellow friends, colleagues, workmates in the business who were screaming that the sky was falling are really the minority number here.

As we've been saying on the show, they're listening to the public, and the public clearly wants this to happen.

Is clearly okay with this happened, And all the purists who think that people should keep losing money just to keep movie theaters open have to open their eyes and see what the public is telling them.

Jeff, I think at this point.

The public does not give a fuck.

Okay, this is exactly Yeah, this is a thing for Twitter and media people and pop and people who like really give a shit about movies.

But when i went back to Boston for a couple of weeks and I'm like freaking out about all the news that's breaking, do you think my brothers are like, what's gonna happen to Warner Brothers?

They don't give a shit.

Like the movies are not going to disappear anything.

They would just be on Netflix, and everybody has a Netflix subscription.

So just like the average person, I just don't think is really really like an you know, interest in the intricacies of this deal.

It's kind of like you know, waking you when it's over, right, right.

I agree, because your brothers are mostly just thinking about the next time they can attack you alone in a room.

I know it's for sure thinking man.

One of the other things that came out of this whole thing is that David Ellison keeps reiterating that he is quote highly confident that he will get this done, and there's talk that they're going to raise the.

Offer because they're just still at the thirty dollars rate.

This could Bloomberg was speculating this could go to thirty one thirty four dollars a share.

Is that going to be enough?

Because the paramount wants to bypass the WBD board and a shareholder vote, it would need to acquire ninety percent of the outstanding shares via a tender offer, So ninety percent of the shareholders we have to tender their shares for Ellison to be able to buy to be able to bypass the board and their vote.

So to me, this seems like this becomes a more and more impossible task the further this.

Goes down the road.

Jeff am I off on this, what do you think?

And Neil, it's all about out money, But David Elson isn't the only one who can raise his bid.

I think that Netflix will also would also raise their bid.

Ye wish they have the right to counter right with a certain point.

Yes, and again, even though yes, it's about money, I think it's also about being who is the best steward for the brand right And I personally think that is Netflix instead of Paramount.

I think that they know that.

I think that that's kind of like what we're seeing in the media now is just like we've chosen the girl we want, and maybe the girl doesn't have the richest father or the biggest boobs or whatever it is, but we like the girl that we chose and she's you know, that's going to be our life partner.

And that's Netflix in this case active suitor offering this and offering that.

But at the end of the day, we can live with this offer, and so can our shareholders.

And you know, and maybe you know she has not only does she have nice boobs or appropriately, she has a nice personality as well, and that's what we're looking for at this later stage in our lives.

We can hang out with her.

Jared Kushler, he's out of the deal.

He was only thrown in two hundred million.

So why do you think he was involved in this gigantic, multi zillion billion dollar offer with two hundred million dollars?

Why tell me?

Well, obviously it was just because of like the Trump stuff.

Yeah, yeah, Kushner in on this bid and that way Trump, you know, would be hard pressed to turn it down.

Yeah.

But then Trump I made it clear this week that he is no fan of the Allisons, and I don't know if that's I don't know if that's a little.

Manipulation, little whatever.

But it's no surprise that the day the next day, Kushner removed himself from the deal.

On the paramount side.

Of things, he sees the writing on the wall.

Rush exactly, Why am I fighting to be part of the losing bid?

Yeah?

Exactly?

And I said this last week.

I said that like Trump likes to be the alpha dog in his family, and if Kushner was going to roll in here, get himself a studio, and do all that would threaten his status.

This is the alpha dog in the family, and so I feel like Trump messing around with there's a lot of dynamics.

Jared Kushner getting a minority percentage ownership.

You're asking me, get.

A petty bitch who put up plaques under president's names in the White House.

Wouldn't be petty enough to worry about Darreed Kushner getting a steak in a studio?

Come on, talking about the president.

They're talking about like owning a studio and being the president.

A petty bitch.

I'm not talking about healthiness is being threatened at all?

All right?

If you think so?

Everything threatens that guy?

Please everything threaten?

Uh?

All right?

Anything more you want to say on this anymore?

We didn't cover We missed on this, Jeffer.

Shall we move on?

Uh?

We can move on.

I am going to be writing more about like just what it's going to look like the Netflix Warner Brothers once it happens.

Yeah, because I have some feelings about it right now, like early ideas of what anything about look like.

I'm like, do I want to let the cat out?

Of the bag.

Well, how about one or two?

What are two things that aren't necessarily the biggest I'm.

Going to write about it.

But what did what did Disney do?

Right?

They bought Lucasfilm for four billion dollars?

Yes?

So, and they bought out George Lucas.

So if you're Netflix and you're getting Warner Brothers, and there's a crown jewel in the Warner Brothers ip library, but there's this boulder kind of that no one really wants to deal with, and they'd love to get rid of this obstacle.

And personally, I think bring back original cast members.

You guys know where I'm going with this.

I think John A, Harry Potter?

Are you saying, Harry Potter?

Yeah?

What do you think?

That's what?

Exactly?

What's going to happen?

When you have Netflix money?

Do you think they'll buy out?

Okay?

Wow?

Like Prime Video did with the Broccolis.

You think Netflix could buy out JK.

They put her away or satisfy or pull her away from the property.

Dude, I don't know if there's a number big enough.

I really don't know.

Sure.

She's so prideful about and listen, this is the thing that keeps her relevant, and so if you remove that, I don't.

Know if she'd be willing to do that.

I don't know.

I can't read the mind of one Joanne Rowley, but I know that some people.

Like George Lucas, Yeah, yeah.

Barbara Broccoli are willing to take a step back, wash their hands, whatever it may be, for a certain price.

And if Netflix is willing to meet that price, you don't think that's a top order of business.

Because let me tell you something.

Show you know it'll it'll do fine, But it ain't Harry.

Potter, right right, right, And if you want.

Harry Potter, you need to get Harry Potter back.

And Harry Potter's only coming back one way.

Yeah, that way, as if the bulder is removed and the builder's only removed with the money.

My god, I can't think like I think with Lucas.

Lucas is an empathetic person.

I could understand him, like he had enough all the constant attacks people forget.

I know, we do revision his history about prequel trilogy, but people hated George Lucas for that prequel trilogy.

People were mad at him.

People were criticizing him left and right.

Articles all these sites tore him apart.

Fan groups, although they try to do revision his history now claim they were never this angry at him.

They were fucking angry at him.

I was there, I lived through.

It, and so him selling it made sense because he didn't want to deal with it any The Broccolis makes sense because they're old and they want to do other things.

JK though, like Harry Potter is her like it's JK Harry Potter.

They are essentially very intertwined.

And I think she likes the status, the fuck you status of messing with people because she is a Harry Potter person.

But she gets to push her anti transviews like I think there's something about that that she.

Needs and likes.

So I don't know if there's a number that could move her off that snide.

I just don't know.

I don't know.

I think a lot of great people have created a lot of great companies and works in our time plans, and a lot of them have sold those things.

They're quote unquote babies.

Yeah, you're right, four billion, but I mean four billion back then.

It's like a sports team.

Jeff I paid four billion for the Cowboys in two thousand.

Now, they're worth maybe eighteen billion or twenty billion.

I think we're talking double figure billions to get JK off that situation.

I really believe that.

Listen, whether it happens or not, I can't say.

I don't know, Like I said, I don't know what I think you're right bank account looks like.

But if that is not part of the plan approaching her with a buyout offer, I don't know what the plans that should be.

Like number one with a bullet.

I bet she's already thinking about a number ten billion, at least ten billion at least wouldn't be would not be surprised.

All right, let's move on to some other stories.

Oh No, one more thing about the Netflix thing I forgot say.

They released a promotional photo of Netflix and WB together defining the next century of storytelling, together creating and protecting jobs.

This is what I talked about keeping the teams in place.

But a lot of conspiracy theorists Jeff on the Snyder verse area went crazy because the Netflix and WB logo is over the Zack Snyder Justice League picture there in.

That's real close.

People now like, oh my god, this means the Snyder Verse is coming back.

It's the madness of the madness of them.

Like I said on Twitter last week, society is just getting dumber and dumber and dumber.

Yeah, and I don't know what could be done about this.

I mean not much call the Snyder people names, but like, are you guys, are you dumb?

Yeah?

I mean yeah, exactly exactly.

All right, wells want to DC.

Let's talk about this, Jeff.

We had some Supergirl first reactions from people.

Overall, the first reactions for the test screening that happened here, the initial things that were released or the comments that were released were positive, but then some other comments were released that were basically breaking down, saying that it was a fine screening but not great, and that Lobo had two fights and the villain was kind of underwhelming, but she was good.

So kind of mirrors what we got with the.

Superman test screenings, which you talked about and covered as well.

So you put any stock in any of this, So this is just you know, food for conversation, not much.

I mean again, test screenings you take with a grain of salt.

Obviously things are going to be changed, fixed, edited, all kinds of stuff.

I'm trying.

I'm trying to bring up the spiral port that I got.

Oh, okay, I'll do the quotes while you look it up here.

Yeah, I got it.

My source said that they liked it.

And first of all, let's back up before even this test screening that happened this week.

On a lot I've heard, I've heard the movie was good.

I've heard the movie came out good.

And that's why I always considered Craig Gillespie a potential wonder Woman director.

Yeah, you said that you did a good job.

With this one.

So my source said that they liked the movie and that they liked it more than Superman.

Okay, but it still needs work and they couldn't.

They didn't love how it felt very Guardians of the Galaxy with the needle drops and all that kind of stuff.

They said that Millie is terrific.

I think that that is a you know, frequent refrain that we're seeing from some of the reactions.

They're saying that the you know, the same thing as everybody else, like the Ellen is supposed to be kind of a lame.

Yeah, they said.

Momoa is in a few scenes as Lobo.

He kind of gets in and out, but he does is Malo Mamoa thing and you know, he's having a blast.

I think the fans will really like that character as well.

Yeah, the action scenes are supposed to be fine, nothing terribly memorable, which doesn't surprise me.

No major cameos, it sounds like besides, you know the David Corn sweat, you know, which we all know Superman is going to be in this movie, and that's more more like an extended cameo than just like a single scene.

And I know they have trouble communicating as well, because he's talking like in English and she's in Kryptonia or whatever.

The only thing that I haven't really seen come out of the reports that I believe is true.

Okay, and we're breaking some news here.

I guess he did not respond to my DM.

I'm told that Steth Rogan has a voice cameo.

What Seth Rogan has a voice cameo in Supergirl?

I am told that Seth Rogan has a voice cameo in Supergirl?

Oh what the voice cameo?

Who would be voicing between?

I don't know, I don't know who it is.

Didn't ask um what else he says?

He's the source said that the audience liked it okay, but the jokes didn't entirely land.

Okay, it didn't waste its time setting up a bunch of sequels and things like that, all insular movie.

Okay, it was self contained, self containing.

So yeah, you know, I think it like most test screenings, it went over fairly well, but there's a room for improvement.

Yeah.

I remember the Superman test screening had what like it was separated by days or whatever.

They removed that, and they cut like twenty minutes or twenty five minutes off the original cut of Superman.

So do you take these test screenies with a grain of salt?

Uh?

And doesn't mean they can't fix it.

Whatever it is, that is the issue.

But if the villain is I don't think there's much you can do to help hype up the villain though, if the villain's coming across consistently not that great, you know.

So Yeah, that's been the complaint with a lot of superhero movies.

Yeah, I mean I again, I just I didn't love that teaser.

Yeah, you didn't like the trailer, right, very bubble gum.

Now, granted I didn't.

I don't think I really love the Superman trailers.

I'm trying to remember the first one.

Yeah, I think I like the Superman trailer, but but.

I like the movie, and so I could totally end up liking Supergirl.

I'm just saying the first bit of marketing that they showed me I didn't spark.

To, Oh great, guess spoofman says, fuck, it's crypto.

Yeah, if they get it.

Could be crypto.

Out to seth Rogen is voicing, that's very possible.

That's crypto talk in the comics.

He has talked at times.

At times, so.

I have no idea I can follow up.

But yeah, I don't know.

I honestly don't know.

I'm very honest about what I don't know.

Or like you, no, I'm getting all these things about Batista's brainiac.

Jeff Snyder said this, Jeff Snyder, No, guys, Daniel rp K throughout that stuff.

I mean, yeah, so when people were like, oh, they show our podcasts and I'm like, oh, yeah, you know, it sounds like Bautista's brainiac.

That's not a sounds like Batista's brainiac from my sources.

That's just oh, it sounds like it based on what I'm reading across the internet right right, I have never heard anything about Man off Tomorrow casting.

I know nothing about it, so don't pull the Jeff Snyder's a fucking grifting piece of shit with me on Superman sequel because I've never said anything about it.

No, we've hinted that it seems like Batista might be the choice, but we haven't said it is the choice.

We've just said that it feels like it might be the choice.

Right Brainiac is the obvious villain as well.

But then James Gun's like, I never said it's Brainiac.

You will wait until like.

Thirdly, is there anyone specifically that you like to call out or talk about right now?

And the only thing that's dumber I think right now is that everyone who thinks that Brandon's Lenar is Batman because David Cornsweat followed him on Instagram.

It's like, again, as a society, Yeah, can we afford to be this dumb?

Well, it's more I would like to think that it's a little less nefarious than that.

I think it's more just that people want to get excited about stuff, Jeff, because the world is pretty fucking bleak out there.

So the idea of that an actor that you really like follows another actor that you really like, and that followed that personally followed You think, in your mind could be the Batman because you like him as Batman, you get excited for.

But maybe on the other.

Side of our are from where is this fan base coming from?

Yes, people love him on nineteen twenty three?

Who is watching a show called nineteen twenty three?

A big show?

Harrison Ford Helen Mirren is a big show?

Come on, man Man is the top show streaming right now?

Listen?

If you want to let the Internet fucking cast James Gunn's entire fucking DC universe, let's just let him do that, right, Let's just do it a Twitter poll and we'll say Batman is that way?

Like this is insane.

I don't disagree with you.

This guy is not Batman.

I don't know why the Internet is obsessed with the idea.

David corn Sweat may just think he's handsome.

Yeah, or they may have met somewhere and become friends.

Or god forbid, they might be fucking around with some of you and trolling and having fun with it.

God forbid, God forbid, that's what they do.

What about your uh, your the news you broke a few days ago on the show and on your newsletter about Scotlett Johansson, any pushback on that, any new stuff on that, anything you want to say on that.

Did you see any pushback on that?

Yes, but I'm not gonna bring it up from who.

I'm not gonna say.

You want to talk about it, you bring it up.

You texted me about you texted me about the person, and I've.

Yes, well again I think that that was in reference to like brain something about Brainiac and Batista and so James Gun's like, this is bullshit.

And then a certain gentleman by the name of Sean O'Connell, noted author Sean O'Connell is just like, see Jeff Snyder wrong about Braine forty long again, never said anything about Brainiac.

Jeff Wryder wrong about Brainiac.

So this whole Batman report total bullshit, completely false.

Yeah, Sean, if you know something, please share it with the rest of us, or do we have to wait two years for your next best selling book.

I don't understand.

Uh, No one has denied this as far as I know, other than Sean O'Connell.

Yeah, so like what I like, I just people love to hate on me.

Sure has been blocked for years.

So I love when people who are blocked somehow read my ship follow my every tweet, you know, like, maybe I'm just inescapable because I'm the master of the Internet, but I don't know.

Well, look, Seank, Sean is a friend of mine.

I won't speak ill of Sean, but I did see him push back on your stuff, and I thought it was a bit.

I thought it was a bit unnecessarily aggressive or argumentative or dismissive.

Because you're my friend as well, So I did not like seeing that.

Well, Jean, but lead out friends friend.

Okay, you know the source of that guilt goal?

Yes, yes I do it.

Is it a good source?

Shows a trustworthy source, john.

Very fustworthy source.

Yes, Sean O'Connell.

Do you know my source?

No, you don't know, fucking shit, Shut the fuck up.

There we go.

Yeah, I almost uh uh you know quote tweeted him and said something like, brother, this is pretty well sourced.

But that's not my beef because he didn't attack me on it, so I left.

I stayed out.

But it's just it's just amazing to me for twenty years.

I know, you think I know people with this in this town.

I live here, I know the parties.

I go like, I don't understand.

It's just it's a mind boggling to me that I'm just because I don't work for trade.

I'm just dismissed as this crazy internet person, as like one of these faceless Twitter scoopers who have no idea.

Who is Daniel Rickman?

Show me a photo of him?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't.

I don't.

And Sean's not even in l A, right, Shawn's out in in uh Carolina, so uh right, He's on these coast so like, you know the connections there, and yeah, strong DC connection.

Sean does.

Of course he gets invited to all the DC stuff, and I totally respect that, but you have to kind of separate yourself from your connection to studios.

I think sometimes people get too caught up in the worship, the hero worship, the studio worship, and they don't allow for independent people who are not connected to the studios to maybe have their own sources and have their own information.

So I think there's a moment there where you don't he doesn't have to go quite so hard.

I'm happy to be wrong.

Maybe Matt Reeves, who I don't know.

I didn't read Schun's book.

Maybe matt Reeves is quoted throughout Shuns, but I have no idea.

Right, maybe he's tight with matt Reeves.

Matt Reeves Colin is like Sean, just so you know, don't pick this up on your website because it's total bullshit.

If that's the case, come out and say it.

Come out and say you know, real DC sources have told me.

This is true.

That's true.

Don't just throw shit because it's some asshole named Jeff Snyder.

That's a fair point.

I think that's a fair point to make that request.

And Sean, if you're watching her listening, maybe take it an advisement.

Brother, as your friend.

I say that, I just again, I'm happy to be wrong, and I very well could be wrong.

I've been wrong plenty of times.

That's what happens when you put yourself out there and you run scoops and rumors and not everything is fucking confirmed and put in a gift wrapped box like the trades get okay, So I can totally be wrong.

I acknowledge it, like, but I'm pretty sure my track record and the way that I phrase that's the other thing.

I phrase things a certain way, and then the Internet just takes it two more steps right, right, and it's like, but I never said that, right.

And then people read from my experience, people read the internet's reaction and they think that's your words and it's not, and then they try to rake you over the calls for it, instead of realizing that other people have taken your words and expounded upon them, rather than just quoting them.

Yeah, I'm kidding.

Oh boy, I've even started to show you.

We haven't.

We're thirty five minutes in, all right, let's.

I am listen.

Ramp up, babies.

We are going up the mountain.

We haven't hit the peak.

Okay, what are your thoughts on this?

The trailer dropped officially after being leaked earlier this week Jeff for Avengers Doomsday.

It dropped for some screenings, some in some theaters, depending on the format with which you were watching the movie.

I heard the Imax.

Some of the IMAX screenings didn't have it, but the Adobey screenings had it.

So very confusing.

But it is Steve Rogers back.

Even though Chris Evans told us over and over again he was not coming back.

He is totally back riding his motorcycle, holding his costume and holding up baby by the end.

So your thoughts on this as we see the time clock letting.

Us know it's just like w cinematics, James Gunn said, don't trust anything that doesn't come from him or saffering.

Okay, look at the history of Conico movies and how many people have denied things and said, well, don't believe anyth unless it comes from me.

And I'm telling you I'm not in the movie.

And then six months later, not only am I in the movie, I'm one of the stars of the movie.

And not only that, I'm going to be marketed as the star of the fucking movie.

It's not a surprise.

Yeah, well, I just don't understand.

I don't understand lying to the mother.

I understand why to keep things secret, right, well, then keep them secret.

Right, right, right, exactly exactly.

That's the shit that I've always frustrated me as a scooper.

And they're like, listen, don't report this, please, it's kind of a spoiler, and then it's in the fucking trailer.

I just I don't understand why people get mad when I compare it to Trump, because that kind of behavior is trumpy like, don't believe anything unless I tell you and whatever I say is the truth.

And it's like, well no, because I've seen you double speak, I've.

Seen you change the truth.

I've seen you lie.

And so to say to me like I should just believe everything you say, or Peter Zaffern says, it's not really accurate, is it?

And so to me, that's a little bit of the trumpiant approach to things where only I have the truth and things are leaking and you're mad that they're leaking.

So you're trying to stop people believing the stuff by saying, don't believe any of this, it's a truth.

Or you say, I'm not gonna go comment on casting rumors anymore.

Been a week later, you're on there comment to go out dat.

I knew James wouldn't be able to help himself.

I'm glad you know he didn't just shoot down everything with the Batman?

Did he Did he not shoot it down because it's true, or did he not shoot it down because he's finally realized it's not his place to speak about Matt Reeves's move again.

I I just think because of when I heard that, I heard it the day before I reported it, and to see someone like Chris Tapley, who I have a lot of respect for, post that image on Saturday morning, and when I when I posted my story, you know, Chris had like ten likes on it and one retweet like no one had picked it up, no one had caught on to what he was trying to message and signal.

It meant that I'm not the only one hearing this.

And that's the thing you guys also have to remember.

Whenever it's Jeff Snyder says this, Jeff Snyder says this, Jeff Snyder actually doesn't say anything.

I was like, I'm just a mouthpiece, I'm just a messenger.

I'm hearing that true through these lips.

It's like these aren't thoughts coming out of my head.

Yeah.

Yeah, very true, Jeff, Very very true.

Jeff.

Anyway, your thoughts on Steve Rodgers being in at your thoughts on them focusing on Steve Rodgers, this feels.

I mean, again, it's just what are we gonna do make a fucking Avengers movie without Chris Evans.

It's my understanding that, like you know, like I said last year, I think it was last December, we said that a year ago.

He's not back as Captain America.

So when Variety blasts the Chris Evans back as Captain America, it's like the trailer copy literally says Steve Rogers will return.

You don't think they said Captain America if that was the case.

You know, I just I guess it's cool.

I mean, I like app or Steve Rogers like Chris Evans.

Yeah, I guess I want to know what happens to him.

Yeah, I tell you this.

The thing that I don't like is the discourse that's happening now since this thing got leaked a few days ago.

It's like, thank God, Captain America is coming back and gonna save us from Sam Wilson's Captain America.

And I've seen some people go like, well, if people wanted Sam Wilson's Captain America, they would have watched the show with larger numbers or gone to see the movie in larger numbers.

And that's utter bullshit.

Because Sam Wilson didn't have the Russo Brothers making his movies.

Sam Wilson didn't have the Russo Brothers doing his TV show.

It's a different it's a lack in quality that Sam Wilson is suffering from I think he's a damn good Captain America.

He hasn't had the material to show it.

You turned his cat movie into a Red Hulk movie because you didn't want to go into the black politics of a black captain American in America, because you got scared because your.

Conta quick quick trivia question, who direc Captain America Brave New World?

Malcolm Spelman?

No, but he wrote it.

Oh I'm sorry, No, who directed it?

You don't know, right?

I thought it was it was Malcolm Spelman.

Well, don't it go ahead?

Julius Ona, right, Julius Owner.

That's right, Yes, it's just.

Like nobody but Russo Bro, we've all done the snap and just like blink that movie out of existence.

Yeah, exactly, exactly my fault.

But Malcolm Spelman is the driving force of the TV show and the movie.

So to me, that's who I look at.

And he is not on the Russo's level, and neither is Julius Owner, so to me, and Marcus and mcpheeley aren't right in his movies.

So to say that Sam Wilson is a shitty cap when he's been hard done by all the things that have come around behind the scenes.

Anthony Mackie, I think it's unfair, you know, but we'll see how they handle it when the movie comes out.

So yeah, yes, I I it is unfair.

I just want to I just wanted to say that.

So, yeah, we're gonna get it.

Sounds like four teasers, one with Yeah Devin's, one with Chris Hemsworth, one with RDJ, and then a fourth one that sort of is like a full trailer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you like the strategy?

Do you like the strategy?

I mean they're leaking, right, they're adventizing it.

They're saying, hey, every other movie is marketed this way, there's this step and then this step.

We're doing a different way.

And I think it's exciting and it's obviously got the internet buzzing.

So yeah, I think it is smart.

Okay, all right, what do you think about this?

Do you think do you think this is bullshit?

Dan?

Speaking of Daniel RpK, I think he's one of the people reporting this possibility that they knew Wolverine is apparently in play because a Wolverine trademark filing was flagged by a person here.

A fan flagged the filing on the US on the official US Government trademark database showing Marvel Characters Inc.

Submitted a new application for Wolverine covering motion pictures, television programs, and multimedia entertainment.

And to add to that, Hugh Jackman was recently on the View and said that he thinks he's not done playing Wolverine.

Now, could that be a secret war's illusion or his allusion to a standalone movie?

Do you think this was part of the deal of him coming back, that he would get another standalone movie.

I don't think that there will be a standalone movie.

Oh I don't think we need to stop looking at trademark filings things like that.

That is not fucking movie news.

Okay, Meanwhile, you could register a Wolverine standalone trademark.

Who says Hugh Jackman's coming back.

That's good, that's a fair point.

I can't they just say, yeah, we're gonna be making a Wolverine TV series right, Like, why does that make you mean Hugh Jackman is back?

They are Listen, Hugh Jackman is great as Wolverine.

You gotta move on.

He's too fucking old.

I mean, he looks amazing.

There's a section he can do it again.

But it's been how many years have we been watching this fucking guy?

Twenty five twenty seven years?

Is the character?

No move on?

Time to get a new Wolverine.

So no, If Hugh Jackman says, oh, I don't think I'm done playing the character, and he's definitely talking about some sort of appearance in Secret Wars or perhaps a standalone X Men movie that you know where he's passed the tour, I don't fucking know.

But there's no way that they're gonna build properties around this guy.

You don't think it's a Wolverine separate from the Wolverine they're gonna bring into play in the X Men movie.

Or do you think the only Wolverine will be the wolvering the X Men movie.

That's it.

I'm confused what I was saying.

Do you think they'll create a separate universe for Hugh Jackman's Wolverine to exist in and that they'll have a Wolverine for the main universe who's gonna be a young Wolverine in the X Men.

Again, it's possible because of all this bullshit alternate timeline, different in universe and shit, it's possible, but I think it would be a bad idea, Like you can't get people invested in the new wolvere while the old Wolverine is still stomping around on Disney Plus.

That's fair, That's totally fair.

Yeah, we'll see.

Well, it's one of the world of comic movies.

Let's move into this gentleman's world here.

James Cameron, Jeff this has been coming up here.

He's been doing some interviews.

Of course, Fire and Ash Avatar.

Fire and Ash is out.

We're going to talk about that in just a secondary But Cameron is apparently working on a new Terminator movie.

According to THHR, he says, I can safely say that Arnold will not be in the movie, but it's time for a new generation of characters.

I insisted Arnold be in Terminator Dark Fate, and it was great to finish him playing the T eight hundred.

There needs to be a proader interpretation of Terminator in the idea of time and war and superintelligence.

I want to do new stuff that people aren't imagining.

So he is apparently working on the script for a new Terminator movie.

Do you buy this?

Do you I like this?

What are your feelings about this?

Jeff Snyder mixed.

Okay, I'm excited by the quote, right and him saying like, no, I want to totally reapproach it.

We got to like, like, basically, the tech has caught up to us.

Yes, from the eighties it was super futuristic, but now tech is caught up.

So how can I like what is next?

Right?

And I and I really like the Terminator franchise, even though it has been one of diminishing returns.

It has an interesting mythology.

So I'm open to more Terminator movies.

Yeah, and I'm definitely open to them without Arnold.

I agree.

I just don't.

I don't know.

I don't know if this is the franchise that he should be returning to.

I I hear you, But anything that gets him away from Avatar I'm a thousand percent on board with because I am now I've now kind of come around after having seen a third of We'll talk we'll review it here in a second.

But that I I think he's been wasted on these films and he needs to do other things in between these films and Terminator to reset it like Praise been reset or Predator has been reset.

Rather, I think this could be a possibility, and Alien has been reset.

Adding Terminator to be reset might be the way to go.

It doesn't mean he's going to direct it, but epeeing it like he EPs these Avatar films and really bring it to Bay.

I think it could be really interesting to see him.

I mean, if he wrote it, that would be a big deal.

Like he wrote.

Supposedly he wrote point break?

Jeff, did he write point Break?

I feel like I was seven years old or whatever.

I have no idea.

I feel like this is him still being bitter about his ex wife.

I just feel like, why would you say that?

Why would you fucking say that?

Dude?

I feel that for Peter Illif, who is credited with writing point Break.

I justin like, how do you keep this secret for?

Like?

What is it thirty five years or something?

A long time?

Yet?

How does this not come out in an interview?

Yeah, it's so weird and random.

No, I think here's the thing.

Yeah, we've seen James Cameron make multiple Terminator movies, h and make multiple Avatar movies.

They're franchised that he could revisit that maybe is looking for a return to the big screen, where he only directed one movie.

Uh, which one are you thinking Aliens Aliens?

Yeah?

Yeah, would you like to see James Cameron revisit the Alien franchise, move it again, pivot, do something new, kind of like Aliens did in the way, And I don't know, just like we're all waiting, like, well, what's gonna happen with the Alien Romulus sequel?

We haven't heard much on that, Like, I don't know.

I'd kind of like to see Cameron go back to the Alien franchise them.

I would love that, but you.

Have to pry it out of the cold, not yet dead hands of Redley Scott.

He will not let go of that franchise.

And there's no fucking way now with Cameron, who is this big dog alpha that he is going to come in to Ridley Scott and be like I'm gonna doubt take over.

Like there's no way Ridley lets that happen, dude.

So I mean it would have to take it.

Incredible of James doing Aliens or was he kind of like you like, this was my baby and.

I think it was supportive in the nineteen eighties.

I don't think he's supportive now.

I don't think he'd be supportive of it now because now it's an ego thing.

Now, it's a competition thing.

And you know how men in Hollywood fucking are, especially these kinds of dudes, They are going to compete about it.

And I just don't think Ridley would let him direct it because I because I don't.

James wouldn't come in and be like, yeah, go you go ahead and ep it, I'll direct it.

Bullshit, James would want to control the whole fucking thing.

You know that.

Well again, either way, I think I think that you're right that he should do something else between Avatar and anything but Avatar four right right right on this on this press four years.

Yeah, I think you gotta Well, we're going to talk about three in a second.

Yes, should we do it now?

Anything where you want to fail?

Well, okay, here's our review.

Let's get into our review for Avatar, Fire and Ash.

This is out in theaters starting tonight in some cities and fully tomorrow three hours and fourteen minutes, Jeff, this one going back into the world of with the Navvy, and we we're introduced to a new tribe of Fire Tribe led by Una Chaplin, who's voicing over the main main character there on that side of things, And basically we're picking up right where the second one left off, and we're dealing with all the emotions of that.

We're dealing with Stephen Lang's character, who's becoming now a Navvy person.

We're dealing with Spider or a version of a Navvy person.

And then we're dealing with the family as it's kind of as the kids are growing and finding their own voices here.

And by the end, it's a pretty cataclysmic, incredible fight sequence at the last thirty to forty five minutes of the movie that mirrors the second movie.

But your thoughts on this film, Jeff, overall?

What stood out to what worked for you?

What didn't did you like?

Wait?

Did you like it?

I did not like it.

No, it bored me to tears, but it did I liked the action.

And I'm at a point at a third movie, Jeff, where the visuals are not enough anymore to me.

This is a story that is so lightweight and cliche and weak that I've become annoyed by the franchise rather than lost in wonder over the franchise.

And I like the first two movies.

I think the first I mean, you can't even talk about this movie without saying it's so fucking long, it's so fucking long.

Let's just do this for like the next five minutes, Jehan, it's so fucking long.

So it's so fucking long, fucking long, so fucking long we could do we just do this for three hours and fifteen minutes.

I got out a the screening and just like everyone in the elevator on the way down was like, wow, that was long.

I mean, I had I had a Cameron Q and A I waited for him to sit down, and I'll tell you a story about that.

In the second I waited for him to sit down, I took a photo of him seated, and I left got a word out.

I gotta pee, I gotta eat, I gotta, I gotta I don't know, like my thoughts so I can like hear myself think for a second, because that was just one hundred and ninety five minutes of like crazy intensity.

Yeah, having addressed the left, Okay, I thought it was fucking epic.

What epic?

Epic?

Fucking epic.

Okay, I think this movie is good.

Okay, I liked it.

I've liked all the movies in this franchise for me and this one, though, what elevated with the performances I had Stephen Langer is green.

I thought Stephen lang was fucking great.

Yeah, I think he's like a terrific villain and I can't even imagine anybody else doing it.

I don't disagree with you.

I think he's great, but I do think that the technology exposed some of the weaker actors in the cast, and I mean the kids except I thought Spider was great, but I like that kid.

I think he's good.

Actually it was good.

The kid who played Lowe was annoying at the beginning when every other words bro bro Bro.

But yeah, all of that, I liked it.

I really liked Worthington and in this For for some reason, in this movie, I could see more of their faces.

I could see Sam Worthington in the face of Jake Suley.

I don't know.

I just I really like Varren, the new villain played by Una Chaplin, that she was a great addition.

Yes, I just.

The scripts aren't like amazing or anything, and they are a little cliche, but they make sense, which is more than I can say for half of the fucking blockbusters.

I see where you're like, wait, what's happening, what are they going, what are they trying to do?

This all made sense to me.

I was never lost or confused.

It's repetitive, for sure.

It's just literally, really, we got the kid, they stole a kid, the kid got back, stole them again.

It's just that, rinse and repeat for three hours.

So I would have liked a little bit more variety.

But I really I thought it was very, very good, and I'd be very surprised if it wasn't nominated for Best Picture.

Frankly, I'm sure it will be.

Although the reviews have been mixed, most Punnets don't have it in the lineup.

Yeah.

Yeah, the reviews have been mixed more than the other two films.

I think is at seventy one percent, I think after one hundred reviews.

But yeah, I have to disagree with you in terms of the I think the I think the epic noss is certainly the visuals.

I will never denigrate the visuals James Cameron's the what they do visual effects wise is utterly jaw droppingly stunned.

It really is.

For me.

The reason you say you can figure out what's going on, Jeff, is because it's a fucking fifth grader level type of approach to this situation is very simple.

This is a colonizer a native indigenous situation.

Now you're adding another tribe.

There should be much more nuanced and complexity going on in tribal politics along with the idea that you're bringing back the cheeseball Rubci stuff and Edie Falco stuff.

Oh my god, Edie is just cashing a check in this movie, same thing or Abezi.

It doesn't work, and it's to me, it's gets so frustrating, and I think we've hit the limit.

And I know you're gonna get mad, or somebody might get mad with it, but we've hit the limit of a white creator telling this story without having indigenous people in the room to help him find some more nuance here, because three hours and fourteen minutes and it's still the most basic fucking plot ever.

I gotta over the fact that I might feel guilty for my brother dying.

Let me go on a spiritual journey and figure it.

Out, like these are universal things though, John, you're selling.

You're not just selling like a movie hoping it's gonna grow three hundred or four hundred million dollars.

You have to sell us the entire world, and so there needs to be just some kind of fundamental storytelling.

That's no disagree with you, but I can criticize it because I was hoping for more after nine hours of a franchise.

I was hoping for something much more complex to come in now at this point and then you the limit.

Yeah, thing, it does feel like just a big series.

Like what if Avatar was like a fucking ten hour series.

I think that would be incredible.

I think people would love it, right, But I still think eventually you're like, when are we It's like Killers of the Flower Moon problem, Like you're telling me the story, but you're telling but then halfway through you sideline the people you say that you're trying to focus on.

And here in this situation, the folk is Sam Worthington's character, Stephen Lang's character, because they even sideline Zoe's al Danna for a lot of the movie because she's in that grief of having lost her son, which is understandable.

It's understandable, but like, what are we focusing on the white insighter, the white guy, Worthington, the white guy Lang and Uda Chaplin is white voicing over the main villain.

So to me, Cliff Curtis's character talk more like.

Curtis is every bit as good as Stephen Lang And you're and you'll be crazy to say so to say differently.

Watching in this in this movie, Stephen Lang is a character actor, Jeff, you couldn't You would have liked this movie more if Stephen Lange and Curtis Cliff Curtis like swapped characters and Cliff Curtis Cliff.

Curtis became a bigger part of the movie.

Yes, I would love that.

If they brought in more characters who are of from indigenous origins, who are fantastic actors to be a part of this franchise, I would be happy for that.

Yeah, you're so like, who gives your ship what race the actors are?

Like, I think it matters if you're telling a story like this, Jeff, I'm not saying that every situation what it doesn't matter.

So you're okay.

If I have a bunch of white people voicing over black characters in a slavery show, that's what you're saying.

You're totally cool it.

If Robert Downey Jr.

Is voicing Kutkine from Roots animated.

Not he's a black person landing in for that.

They're standing in for that.

That's what they're standing in for for indigenous people of colored.

Come on, come on, Jeff, come on.

Yes, if only the blue people can avatar I've been voiced or I guess not voice played by indigenous actors, the movie would have really resonated.

On another I think indigenous actors would have maybe pushed James.

To go, like, well, listen, this is what away you know what James gun would James Can would have said, funk off, You're fine.

It's not the actor's job to push the director on anything.

It's not saying it's a job.

I'm not saying a job.

But I know actors do that when they take on certain roles.

What did Bensia, what did you know?

Did you watch DiCaprio and Jennifer Lawrence this week?

DiCaprio said, Bensio, Derel Toro came in and changed that entire character, and we changed the movie for him.

Not only did we wait three months for him, but when he came in and he saw what we had written, he changed everything.

Because every movie we don't want, we don't want to fucking Latino and he knows this experience of immigration, and so he changed the movie.

That's why it matters.

Fuck fuck.

If only we had more Native Americans actors who had experienced this and lived it, then they could have told James Cameron how to make his billion dollar movie.

I think they could, yes, because what isn't that what scoresays?

He said, Oh, I've got I've got an advisor on Killers of the Flower Moon is gonna find me the nuance of this stuff?

And then the advisor on the Red Car that even said, well, they did the best they could, but it wasn't quite wrong.

Real people from Pandora.

This movie may have made sense.

But you know what I mean, come on, I know what you don't be obuse you know what I'm saying.

If you're gonna tell the colonizer indigenous story, why aren't you having Indigenous people involved in your creative team?

Jeff, it only makes sense.

I don't get it, of course it makes sense.

Please tell us to Una Chaplin.

So you're saying to me that if you're gonna tell a Holocaust story, you don't need to have any Jews involved.

That's what you're telling me.

That's what you're fucking telling me fuck out here.

Come on, I can't.

I'm not even gonna go down this line with you.

Go ahead, you already did, you already did.

It's ridiculous.

It really isn't all right anyway, Jalen errors.

It's so hard to explain being a minority to the majority.

The guy you're talking to a Jew.

I'm the biggest minority there is.

You're not the biggest minority.

Is cut it out?

It's all relative.

What's the percentage of Jews in the world?

John, Do you know?

It's it's all relative, is what I'm getting at, you know, because I mean, we don't even know the numbers of the amount of black people who were killed being brought to the country, not only just being here, but being brought to the country.

And so come on this idea of comparing.

And then arguments because una Chaplin, the actress is white.

No, I'm just saying that you I would have liked them to go.

You know, at some point it becomes a little too white, and you're no longer.

Telling the story.

But what are you talking about?

Oh, come on, Jeff, don't be stupid.

You know, fucking fucking wicked is standing in and she's fucking green.

Okay, she's standing in for a person of color.

That's that storyline.

It's very clear.

And Jay and James is doing the same thing here in this movie.

You know, he's put it on another planet, but he's telling the indigenous story of people of color being colonized by white people.

That is very clearly the foundation of this story.

And you'd be ridiculous to not say that that's not the foundation of the story.

Couple the Killers of the Flower Moon actress had been cast as Varnu.

I would have been great.

I would love Lily Featherstone issues great.

But when the chaplain was great, So why do we need to change it?

Una was good?

Absolutely that this might surprise you, but there are equally good people of color as there is white people.

There's equally good that exists in the world.

They're already coming in.

Bro, you've lost the flat.

I don't know what you many people are on my side.

Move on.

Yeah, okay, all right, any final what's your final rating on this one?

If you think it's so epic, what's your final rating?

Mmm?

You you just complained about the length?

Can you can you put it?

You know?

Where do you put it, I go b plus Wow.

Is that above Avatar and Avatar two?

Or below Avatar avtars.

It's fun well again with Avatar two, guys, it's like, I can't remember fucking thing about that movie.

Every It's like, it's so similar, it's the same movie, dude.

That movie went in one ear and out the other, like just like this one will in a year from now.

I'm not gonna remember a fucking thing about it, Like I wasn't like this is the same movie as two because I didn't remember anything fucking happening too.

It's all just one big TV show to me essentially, So I don't know.

I like them all kind of the same.

I think this was better than two, but not maybe as mind blowing as the first.

Okay, I would say it's the worst of the three because you could if we could feel the length, that means that's an issue.

Even if you liked it and still felt the length, that's an issue.

I would give the movie a C because the story is so tired and cliche and the visuals aren't enough to save it for me.

After a third installment in the series, I think it deserved better than what we got, and I'm not surprised that James is making comments about Lee this franchise for a little bit, because I think he's creatively exhausted, which is why we got a lot of similar beats in this movie like we did in the second one.

And it happens.

The great ones get exhausted.

It happens.

Like, do you feel like it's done?

I wish, I hope so.

I would love it to be done.

This isn't good place to leave it.

I agree, because the next step Jeff is he has to go into the kids and.

Push Sam Worthington and Zoe's al Dania to more of a recurring character rather than a main character, and they would have to recast the kids.

In my opinion, it won't be the same people and jump time.

They have to jump time to get some really notable actors to come in to be the least.

I don't know what James Cameron has in mind for the story, right, Yeah, I don't know where he is planning to take four and five.

But this feels like a complete story.

It feels I agree to me.

I don't know if I did think it was interesting the way that the movie ends, Yeah, it's it's it's a pullback, right the way back.

And yeah, yeah, this is happening in a space this fucking big, on a planet that big.

Maybe other stories with other characters on Pandora.

Yeah, people who look different, Maybe people who aren't Blue.

I don't.

I don't know, But as far as this story goes, it feels like a good place to leep.

Yeah, I think so too.

I think this is an I had not thought of this, Jeff.

But what do you think, Like I always want to say, I do think John Lando's passing is also affected James want to do something else.

I think that's a very excellent point, Jeff.

You know, when you have someone who is like your your your ride or die in a franchise, who protects you is and creatively someone can go to to talk things out, to lose that.

You can't undervalue how important that is.

And again, we're not spoiling the movie.

It's not some spoiler say that the movie ends with a pullout.

Yes, the movie takes place somewhere on Pandora.

Big spoil.

Huge.

It's like the moron who just said, I don't understand the point of these movies.

What are this point of these movies for you?

To go ooh ooh, oh oh.

Is that the point of the fucking movies?

Fucking moron?

Anyway, All right, let's move on.

Uh what do we talk about?

Oh yeah, so speaking out her space?

What do you think of this trailer?

Jeff Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Days teaser trailer dropped with Emily Blunt leading the way, Josh O'Connor who apparently is full on in his moment now Ape Houston, and a number of other act Coleman Domingo in this thing.

Colin Firth, your thoughts about this teaser trailer?

Did you get excited or did it feel a little real quick?

Last note on Avatar, even if he wants to leave it behind and be like, hey, I made these movies with John Landau and then you know, I'm ready to move on or pass the torch to somebody else.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an Avatar four and five, simply because Disney needs the movies wrong.

Yeah, they don't have a lot of movies that are like, oh, this is a billion dollars for sure, Like outside of the MCU, you know, we got to see how Star Wars rebounds next year with Skywalker or with a Starfighter.

So yeah, I just think Disney may be like, listen, we're ready to pay for these movies, whether you want to make him or hand pick your successor Neil Blombcamp or whoever.

He is dead very clearly that he does not want to hand off to anyone else.

So I think it would probably be a situation where we had to pay him off a lot or give him a bigger chunk of the pie as an eph to ep these things.

But they wouldn't want him to like they would want him to stick around, obviously, I'm saying.

If he didn't want to and they're like, we want to make more movies, right, you know, I think he would obviously choose his successor.

I think you would benefit from taking a break for a while to As.

For Disclosure Day, you know, I like the trailer.

It didn't blow me away, you know, I just a lot of CGD right, A.

Lot of that ship at the end was no good.

I agree, and I didn't like.

I don't like the title Disclosure Day.

It's a little yeah, I know it's a little odd.

I don't disagree with you.

I would have just gone with disclosure and been like yeah, there was a movie in the nineties with Demi Moore.

Sorry, okay, well this is the new disclosure disclosure Day, just as like yeah, m hm, Emily Blunt as a Midwestern meteorologist and like the aliens are I don't know what using her to communicate, She's like tacking up there.

Is that what's happening?

I think so?

Or she's being taken over or Colin Firth is doing it.

I don't as the tech pro billionaire, I don't know is the is.

The Red Sparrow or whatever the fuck it is the Cardinal?

Excuse me, the Cardinal?

Is it is that the mother alien?

Maybe?

Maybe?

Does it feel like good?

No?

No, I mean I've heard this movie is good.

Yeah, but I'm just wondering, like if universal is gonna feel like, hey, we've got bigger fish to fry this summer.

I think this is a I don't want to I guess I'll say dangerous movie.

In this way, you're catering to the UFO UAP crowd with this movie, and they.

Are a very fervent, vocal, and organized crowd.

If you come out with a movie that they feel doesn't respect that community, the people you are counting on to see this movie over and over again, are going to destroy it.

And so to me, I didn't see anything in this trailer that let me think that they were necessarily going down that road.

Because Christian is a big UAP guy, he has that channel and he said, like disclosure, this is going They're gonna explore how the government is covering stuff up.

There was like none of that in this trailer.

So it is a teaser.

There may be more in a full trailer, but there was none of that in this trailer.

So baby, there's some of that coming.

But right now, I would say, here's it has a great cast, right, I mean, Emily Blunt, Coleman, Domingo Colin first, Josh O'Connor, but there's a question mark, and I think it's Josh.

You do what.

Josh's a great actor, dare you?

He's a good actor.

I didn't like Wake Up Dead Man.

Dude, I'm not a fan of those movies in general.

He's new to the cast obviously this time around.

But between that and The Mastermind, like this whole breakout, I don't They sent me a screener for Rebuilding, which I've heard is good.

The Sundance movie I didn't watch, Okay, just like, I don't know.

He just doesn't do much for me.

He was good in Challengers.

I did like him in that, but I'm a little skeptical that he's our next giant movie star.

And watching Wake Up dead Man, I was like, this guy's should not be James Bond.

So that's what I'm nervous about with this movie.

It'sn't that Like, I trust Spielberg and I trust David Kep to write something interesting and the aliens.

You know, I think Spielberg has a decent handle on that and that would be cool, but Joshua kind of has me a little worry.

Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

That's fair.

Well, speaking of superstars, what about this, Jeff, We got a poster for you and Tom Cruise's collaboration here Digger, and we got a teaser trailer where Tom.

Clearly has added the schnaws there.

It looks almost like Jim car Curry, Jim Carrey and Lemony snickets a little bit a really odd fifty nine second teaser trailer.

What did you think of this?

What are your thoughts on?

Are you excited about this?

I mean, I'm excited for it because I think just the way everybody's talking about it, they're like, holy shit, like this is going to be something special.

You know, sometimes when they talk about movies like that, you know it can end up going the other way.

I'm a little nervous.

I didn't like this title either.

Digger.

Yeah, anytime you like I don't know, man, I mean, anytime you make a title that rhymes with the N word, I don't know about that.

Are you saying you're not a big nick kerr fan?

Is that what you're saying?

Uh, Digger?

That's Isn't there a movie Diggers with Paul Rudd?

Uh?

Maybe I don't remember it was, Okay.

I don't like.

Listen, Tom Cruise to the fucking man and he's putt himself out there.

He's taking a chance.

So like I'm there, day one sold, sign me up.

And that's that's basically what this is.

It's an announcement.

It's in your redo.

Sorry I always miss pound mm hmm, all right, it's him Cruise.

Yeah, that's all you need to know.

That's all they want you to know at this point.

I agree.

It being a comm also scares me a little bit, just because, like when a tours do comedy, it's always a little hit and miss.

Well, they did Birdman a Birdman's a comedy, so it's more of a dark comedy.

Birdman's good, a little overrated.

I like them.

What I like was the music that was in this teaser.

Oh yeah, yeah, me too.

That was really interesting.

The cinematography look cool.

Yeah, I'm curious what Tom Cruise actually looks like in this, as you know, as you pointed out, silhouette definitely did not necessarily look like the Tom.

Cruise we know in Love, right.

I actually let Tom study my hairline for this movie.

I'm not I'm looking forward to it, but I can't say it's at the top of my list.

I love Tom, and I love when Tom goes out there man, and so whether it's going to work or not, we'll see.

But I love it when he challenges himself to go out there.

He has a desire to work with these guys who are artists or auditors.

As you said, uh, and so I'm excited for it, and you're right, I agree.

The title is weird, the posters weird.

The look of him is a little strange because trying to make Tom Cruise like a normal dude who's maybe like a burnout.

No, he's not.

He's not a normal dude.

He's the world's most powerful man.

Oh is that?

What it is is that the world's most powerful persons?

Exactly?

What's with the shovel?

What does he what does he dig for?

What does he find?

Is that the source of his power is some stone somewhere underneath things?

And I don't know, but intrigued.

And that is the whole point of a teaser trailer to make you go, what is that?

What is that all about?

For sure?

All right, we've got a little bit over it, But Jeff, we got to get to these stories before we get to the questions.

YouTube the Oscars.

It's happening the Oscars on YouTube.

Jeff, I don't know if you remember this, but I pretty much called this years ago at Collider on a mail bag and talk shows that it was eventually going to end up on YouTube because it would have the freedom to be as long as they want, bring back the montages, let the speeches go as long as they want.

What are your thoughts on this?

Are you excited about this?

So happened in twenty twenty nine, ABC has it's up to twenty twenty eight, So your thoughts.

And they outbid ABC.

They outbid everybody.

Do they And that's why the Academy accepted the bid because the Academy is financially hurting.

The Academy's finances are an absolute mess, and that museum.

Not doing well.

That is a fucking money.

Pit and a half.

That's a shame money pit and a half.

Yeah, it's kind of.

Bad timing, isn't it, Jeff.

The time when people are not going to the theaters, at least the older people because they came out of study with gen Z was going more.

But like the older movie gars aren't going as in the same numbers anymore.

And you open an Academy, you know, maybe not the best time.

Museum is just not that great to be Okay, that's what it is.

But I need to read David Poland's column about this because I started reading and I had to jump to something else because I'm working on my own column and want to hear all the different perspectives.

But I'm kind of with you and Clayton Davis at Variety.

This isn't that bad an idea.

It doesn't delegitimize it just because it's on YouTube.

I don't think ABC, you know, made it like a legitimate show.

I think you're right.

They can go as long as they want.

They can have all the categories in there.

They don't need to say production design.

Sorry, you're at the start of the show.

Given in the pre show, right, you don't need to play winners off.

You can actually let them talk.

You can play clips which have been sorely missing from the broadcast, like why we need to fit a four hour show into a three hour window, Like, just let it go, and if it goes four or five hours, guess what, the people who waited all year to watch the Oscars are gonna watch that fifth hour.

Yeah, you know, like make the show for the people who want the show exactly.

This is literally what I said five six years ago when I was on those shows.

I said that the Oscars are for movie lovers.

These people complaining that they need to they need to appeal to the populist mainstream.

That's not what the Oscars have ever been about.

It's the mainstream moved away from the Oscars.

That's what happened.

They moved away from artful movies, they moved away from those in mass Now they look like the Oscars are out of date because they're not nominating all these other films for Best Pictures.

They're not Best Pictures.

They're not so stop it, and so where are you gonna go?

YouTube?

And to me, it makes sense because, like you said, because YouTube people stop, people need to stop looking at YouTube is some kind of refuge for the social media minority.

YouTube is becoming massive.

They're playing NFL games, They've got all kinds of stuff.

They're legitimate now as a network.

Streaming What David Elson was saying, which is like you know or I guess it was it Netflix that will saying basically like YouTube is the competitor now, like we're this wouldn't be a it was Netflix, I was saying it.

Netflix is like us and Warner Brothers wouldn't be a monopoly or illegal because our competition is YouTube and TikTok and all these other things.

And I think it just speaks to that.

I think it's, you know, you're meeting the audience where they are.

Frankly, more people watch YouTube every day than ABC.

Yes, I just think that there's so much you could do with it, and it could be interactive, right, It doesn't need to look the way YouTube looks right now.

Either it can have a special landing page, right, and so when the category comes up, yeah, you're watching the main show.

But then there could be five links below.

Click here to see this little feature ed on this nominee.

There's so many different things that I don't think ABC really can offer.

Right, And they have three years to do it, Jeff, they have three years to prepare.

Totally different three years from now exactly, John, You're dead on.

So I wasn't one of those people who is handwringing, being like this is, you know, the death knell for the oscars or whatever.

No, I think this is the academy trying to keep up with the times.

The other thing about this is that YouTube's not a player right now.

Right.

You couldn't just put the oscars on Netflix because Netflix is playing the game and they have a bunch of movies and contention, YouTube doesn't make a release movie, so it's kind of the they're agnostic.

That's a great point, yes, right, and Netflix already has the Screen Actors Guild Awards, so there's already a bit of a confusion there.

They having the Oscars would have been just mind blowing.

So this is the better move.

I agree, agnostic and the Oscars are.

Accepting more and more global releases into their main categories, global actors, international actors into their main categories.

So putting it on YouTube makes it more accessible to a global audience than ABC necessarily because you have to go to a different network.

You can just go on YouTube wherever country you're in and watch, and I think that's going to be a thing that helps it grow the Oscar's growth.

This ironically might be the move that makes the Oscars bigger, like they feel they should.

Have been all along.

We'll see, We'll see one last thing before we get to the questions.

We have to talk about this, Jeff, sadly your thoughts on mister Rob Reiner, sadly pat him and his wife.

I can say this, I guess sadly being murdered by his son, allegedly by a son who's a suspect right now and did charged what an incredible director, actor, producer, activist and all around human being in the business.

Jeff, you never heard a cross word about Rob Reiner from anybody except for a moronic president, and the fact that people from all sides of political aisle were offering up tributes to him, speaks for his just reach as a creator and a filmmaker.

Your thoughts on Rob Briner brother.

Just fucking crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah, I got out of a massage Sunday night and check my phone because I turned my phone off because I hate when you're in a massage and you're getting all the notifications.

Then you can't enjoy your massage.

You're just like, who texts?

So when I you know, took that shit off the phone and saw that those alerts, I was like, this is insane, this is nuts.

I mean I was literally in Brentwood at three, you know, I think he was.

The bodies were like found at three or three thirty or something like that.

I was like, on the street.

Wow.

I mean, I've really struggled.

I haven't written about it yet.

I have a whole column that is like on the ninety five yard line basically, or on the one yard line.

I guess there is no ninety five yard line.

He was.

He was incredible.

Yeah, he just had so much range and could do so he could just operate in any genre.

And his movies were so quotable.

And when you think about, oh, what's like the rom com and everybody models, their rom com after when Harry met Sally Coming of Age movies stand by me like it's tough to and he was never like considered one of like the great directors.

Yeah yeah, right right under.

We didn't like fully appreciate it, I think because you know, the truth is, the last twenty years haven't been great for Rob Reiner right right, creatively, with the exception of maybe the bucket list, you know, the buckets and he introduced that term, like, you know, put that instant cultural lexicon.

Basically I will and some people like flipped and I'm sure he has like things here and there that people actually saw I liked, But you know, we haven't really talked about Rob Reiner as a major director since the nineties.

Yes, it wasn't just the directing though, it was like the producer like Seinfeld.

Right every day, I'm probably in the top point zero zero one percent of Seinfeld fans I follow.

I don't listen to stand up comedy anymore.

At night, I listened to Seinfeld just because I know the rhythms, and it's like I don't have to worry about missing a joke because I've seen it a hundred times.

Yeah, yeah, like that show wouldn't exist without Rob Ryan.

He fought for a second season when NBC wanted to cancel it, and it was Rob Reiner's cache and the belief people had in Rob Ryder's track record that saved Sifeld.

And Jerry Seinfeld himself has said it, and that's amazing.

Yeah, and obviously the most amazing thing out of all of this, you know, because he's an amazing father.

Yeah, yep, that's the thing.

It's like, I'm an addict.

I won't say what the addiction is, but I'm an addict.

And you know, when I think about the things I've put my father through and my family through, you know, it just makes me love him that much more.

And so I actually had a lot of compassion and sympathy for Nick Reiner.

I don't disagree with you, and I don't think he deserves the death penalty.

I don't think he just have death penalty.

I hope they don't do that.

Yeah.

I think he's a sick, a sick guy who's been sick since he was a teenager.

And it's really sad what happened.

And God, it's just so so fucking heartbreaking because Rob Riiner did everything he could for this kid.

When people are like, oh, Timothy Shallowy is the greatest ever in Marty Supreme or whatever the fuck it is, you really need to see Beautiful Boy.

Rob Riiner even talked about how he read Beautiful Boy and Tweak, which is, you know, Nick and David Cheff both both wrote books Father and Son Timmy, it will always be for me.

It will always be hard for him to top that proform.

It's and Beautiful Boy.

You know, if you're trying to like make sense of this, I think you have to watch Beautiful Boy.

I think it will really color your perspective.

Steve Carrell basically is Rob Reiner, you know, I mean, you have all the resources.

Money can't help.

Money doesn't buy you out of this problem.

Ye, So I think that him and Michelle did everything that they could for that kid.

Yeah, and I don't know, you know, we still don't know the time of death and like some of that stuff.

But yeah, it just sounds like, I mean, I don't even know what it sounds like.

It's it sounds like a fucking nightmare, and it's I can't I can't imagine a worse strategy to inflict on a family.

My heart goes out to his siblings.

Yeah, and Rome Romi has been posting, you know, I follow her on Instagram and she's been posting some some really powerful moments with him that are like, I've caught myself crying a couple of times.

I gotta say, Jeff, this one fucked me up pretty hard on This One's the one's fucked me up pretty hard since Robin Williams, because he brought He's such a formative director of all of our lives.

I think everybody watching or listening to us, there are movies we go back to over and over again from his resume.

Princess Bride, some of your real big spinal tap people.

Stand By Me is such a formative film as you get older and older in life, to go back to a few good men and American President arguably his two masterpieces in terms of direction and script and all of it and performances.

There's so much to take away from his resume.

But then you look at him when you watch him in interviews talking about movies, loved movies, loved them and the power of movies and what you and of course when Harry met Sally, which is my favorite of his of all of them, and it's amazing what he was able to do.

And I think he's our modern day Billy Wilder, successful in all kinds of genres, just didn't have the extra time.

And it could be that because the addictions and the things that went on with his son were the things that were taking his attention that he went this is much more the focus that I need.

I need to help my son as he navigates this stuff.

He was in we habit fifteen years old his son, so it tells you he was using before he was fifteen, and an attic before he was fifteen.

And so the journey that he went on, and having watched the Charlie Sheen documentary and how much he lauds his father, that's also a window into how Rob Reiner looked at this and he knew this was more important than anything else.

And Carl Reiner said it in interviews as well, my son, my children are what I care about.

The things I created are great, but my children are the most important things to me.

And I'm sure Rob felt the same way.

And the fact that he fell victim to his son losing it in a moment him and his wife felt victim do so is devastating for us.

But as a father, I think he did everything he could to say the son from that moment, and he died in pursuit because he took his son to a Christmas party to try to get him out of whatever right he was in and help him.

Yeah, and sadly it backfired on him to the point that he lost his life.

And I think Rob Ryder would be the last person who would want us to put him put his son on death row.

It would be a way to dishonor him to put him on death row, you know.

And so it's heartbreaking all around and painful all around, but I think it is it shows you that addiction is such a terrible disease and we need to do better, and we need to do more, and we need to create grace and be more understanding in situations like this because it is a never ending battle for people who are involved in.

A lot of questions we need answered.

Just like man, I'm just very curious whether he was high during these murders.

I don't know whether he was under the influence or you know, whether it was just like anger, yeah, because it could have been that.

But it also could have just like I guess when I first heard about it, I thought, this kid's going to come out of this in like ten twelve hours and be like, what would I do?

Exactly?

Yeah, yeah, And that's why the suicide vest and under suicide watch, because yeah, like if I killed my parents, I want to kill myself.

No amount of punishment that we could administer as a society.

He's going to punish him more than he will punish himself.

Exactly, killed the two people who were trying to help him the most through his most personal struggle.

You know, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

I mean my heart is just it bleeds, and you know, it goes out to his the rest of his family and obviously Rob's friends, of whom there were many.

I think I have you ever met him Rob Briner?

No, I wish I had.

Honestly, dude, I wish I had met him.

I wish I'd sat at a Q and A.

I wish I'd been in a theater for him to talk about movies.

The closest I get is watching him on these interviews over the last few days.

I can't recall actually meeting him, but I feel like we've occupied the same space back when I was at the rap, like, you know, either coming through the newsroom to meet with Sharon or for a photo or just something in Toronto, because I, you know, I do the interviews in the studio, so I feel, you know, And he had just like this loud, booming voice.

Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just terrible, and I think you're right, it is.

It's the worst thing since the Robin Williams death, because it's like, you know, obviously horrible things have happened Anton Yelkin, he overdosingan yes, right, yeah, those mistakes that they made.

And Rob Briner didn't do anything wrong here.

He just loved his kid and wanted to help and there was no helpinion.

Yeah.

Yeah, Well, you know, we send out our love and our thoughts and condolences to his family as one of all his friends and anyone who's watching us who is dealing with addiction in your own family or yourself.

You know, Yes, what's what's your favorite Rod Ryan movie?

You know, when Harry met Sally.

That's barn Up.

And I don't understand why it's not in four K.

I don't understand why it's not Criterion get on it.

That is the greatest film about relationships ever made, and they have to put.

That well, I think they're just gonna be a whole reappraisal of Robert.

I think that you will see Criterion releases and that kind of stuff.

What about For me, it's this one right here.

It's stand by Me.

Oh yeah, yeah, just an amazing coming of age movie.

I just watched it a couple of months ago.

I'm time going to talk more about the movies and stuff in the newsletter piece that I write about it, but stand By Me was the one.

So yeah, totally respect for sure.

All right, there's no ways way to transition, but we got a lot of questions to get through.

As Jeff said, so let's get to it here.

Uh say, and Michael said, Miguel says, what are your.

Thoughts on The Secret Agent?

I thought it was good in factor was good.

Jeff haven't seen it.

Dying to see it, I'd say, every single day for the last two weeks, I've looked at showtimes and asked my buddy, hey, can you make this.

Hey, it's tough because that movie's long too.

It's almost three hours.

Yeah, and like the showtimes have been shit.

If the showtimes are like nine to fifty, so that doesn't aret till ten twenty.

We're not gonna be out t thirty in the morning.

And it's just like, I'm close to the point of asking me on just send me a link or send me like a Blu Ray anything, because like, I can't go into Awards season without having seen this movie.

Could just join the critics' choice.

I'm that's what I'm talking about.

Give me your login, I'll watch the screen.

I cat I get kicked out.

Nobody has to know except for the fifteen thousand.

Publicly denn has happened thirty to fifty six since Chris Hapn's than the Zeitgeist.

I'm a big fan.

But besides defending Jacob, he's had a rough six years.

What can he do to fix things?

I'm sure the red notice is good.

Pick better projects and get a better team to pick better projects.

You're Jeffy your thoughts.

Yeah, great, Like just recalibrate your idea of yourself quite frankly, Oh that's a good point.

Start taking those I mean, like Brad Pitt was a movie star, but Brad Pitt is really a character actor with Yeah, and there's a way that you could figure that out and become a character actor with a movie star face.

That's what That's how you're gonna have longevity.

Defending Jacob was excellent and if you haven't seen that show, guys track it down on Apple.

I thought it's the best thing he has done.

You know, maybe he maybe he'll step behind the camera a little bit more.

He has directed.

I could see him doing a little bit more of that.

But yeah, I think it's just it's about picking better projects and better filmmaker.

Here's some better co stars.

Yeah, there's no reason every Glenn Powell movie that came out Chris Evans could have started.

It's so he's got to find better situations for him.

Yeah, Chris Evans, you can work forever.

Yeah, there's no question you're gonna keep getting offers.

But the offer is gonna be like ghosted, Like you gotta know say no, even if it means I don't work for the next three months.

This is the only I have.

You gotta turn that shit down, bro.

Yeah.

Coboys fan nine two says that Supergowl trailer I met my own personal expectations.

I don't care for the avatar saga, so spoil away.

Yes, the capslock is because of my bad vision.

Understood, get some glasses, man, you you know people, John Hope you well, my god, the world's gone mad.

Oscars to YouTube from twenty twenty nine to all this Warner Paramount, Netflix and Stars bidding war stuff is just insane and oh my god, all right, oh thank you Cowboys fan?

Uh Vlarius grs thirty seven eighty four.

Is your thoughts about the Odyssey PROLOGU, Jeff, I haven't seen yet.

To jew Yeah, well, I mean yes, I saw it.

Right.

I saw it was fucking awesome.

That that might be my Saturday going up to Irvine and seeing one of those seventy millimeters screenings and seeing that prolog because I want to see it.

The score was so good, damn Ludwig Gorenson.

It's just it takes a story that most of us know.

We've all thought about it, but we've never seen it, we've never like really visualized it.

And it was just super fucking intense.

And the cinematography was great.

It looked like the sets everything was just fucking epic.

It's gonna be awesome.

Yeah, I like that new post they dropped too.

Mister peckwin Ady eight do you guys think Marvel is leaking this stuff on purpose as a marketing tactic, because it seems like everything is being leaked right now.

Lol.

Always loved the show, guys.

Yeah, I have no idea what is going on over there?

I said, I made that the topic on Spill Tequila on Tuesday with Winston And I think because the Spider Man form trailer was leaked as well, and it looks pretty pretty accurate to the trailer Mountain.

Yeah, So to me, I'm like, who the fuck has access to this ship that is videotap Why is it Marvel going after these people?

So it feels to me like this is their thirty seven chairs move and they're just dropping it online and pretending that it's leaked, you know.

Yeah, I mean I don't think that they're leaking it because I think this is like why would you do that?

Why would you leak an audio copy of the Spider Man teaser to rile up fans?

But I have no idea, you know, I don't know what goes on inside those PR meetings and like if you are trying to make some noise but you're not quite ready to release a trailer, or they're still in tuning the VFX, but you really want to get something out there.

Oh just you know so many tape recorded on voice memos and the internet.

Uh, yeah, it's just it's it has been weird with all the leaks and things like that lately.

You don't normally see Nope.

Dance Dog sixty says, I want to see a Police Academy remakes last reboot.

Sure, I agree, I also want to see that, but the cops are not purely popular.

Nice right, and it'll be tame, it won't be his kind of you know, remember George Ganin's got a blowjob in the first few scenes of the opening of the first Police Academy movie.

For God's sake, Philly g seventy to seventy.

Two support, Thank you, Philly, Sean Michaels and saw Sorry Sean Nicholson sixteen thirty I says, can someone explain how films like Indy five cost almost four to million?

How can these films actually cost as much?

Avatar doesn't cost us much?

Oh, Avatar does cost What the fuck does coss that much?

But that's a totally fair question.

On In five, I'm one hundred percent with you.

It's just like I never would have greened lit that movie, Like, I just not a Indiana Jones guy.

Uh.

And I'm surprised that the studios like hold him in such high regard.

Yeah, that character.

Yeah, I don't think it's going to command that much anymore.

Now that franchise is on ice.

My friends walk abacus and say, Jent, you guys think Netflix would pull an Amazon and buy out rolling for me Harry Potter's ownership to take more creative liberties without her.

I think we addressed that earlier, Jeff, Jeff brought that up.

Yes, I think if she will let them.

Yeah, uh sucks, Miss Ross.

Is any news regarding Batman two villain or casting?

I think No, I don't.

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

Okay, you know, there was a little I'm trying to think, but like, well the Big Picture podcast guys, Okay, this is not to be aggregated because because I heard back today.

If it put it this way, I would have put this out there as a rumor today and made a much more bigger deal out of it.

But I got the answer that I'm I'm looking for little there's a big wind up for not much, but the big picture guys, we're talking about the Batman rumors and all that stuff.

It's like Chris Ryan Show, give a brother a shout out.

I mean, yeah, uh yeah, Like it's just amazing to me.

How like the Ringer will never want to mention my name, Matt Bellani will never want to mention my name.

Nobody wants.

Everyone wants to pretend I don't fucking exist because I'm like the Boogeyman.

If you say my name, I'm gonna fucking pop up in your mentions.

But so they were talking on the podcast John about it was that they did a twenty twenty two draft.

Yeah.

Yeah, one of the high picks was Tar.

Yeah.

They were and someone was like, well, I wonder what todd Field is doing next.

As of now, todd Field is not casting anything.

I'm toilets.

But I had heard a rumor a week or two ago, and I tracked it down this week and it sounded like an old rumor.

Okay, so that's the caveat to this.

This is an old rumor.

I don't know what todd Field is planning.

I don't know what his movie is going to be about.

But todd Field was talking to an actor last year.

Apparently I was corrected today.

I thought he was talking to him more recently.

He was talking to this actor last year, and that actor was Austin Butler.

Oh.

Now, Austin Butler has a busy schedule.

Obviously he's got Miami Vice coming up, and rumored to be in Heat too, probably more of a supporting role or something like that.

But those are also like big, like macho movies for men, right, and you've got to balance that, I think with something a little bit more art house and awards friendly that is also maybe going to get interest female audience.

It's not that I know maybe Todd Field's planning an ICET movie.

I have no idea.

Field in general makes movies that they think are female friendly.

And so he was talking to Austin Butler last year about starring in his next movie.

Who talks of I don't know where they are.

I don't I'm not you know.

Again, if this was reportal, I would have said, Austin Butler in talks for time movie.

That would have been the newsletter.

That's not the case.

They just had some preliminary conversations last year.

But I just thought it was interesting.

So that was the scoop that I was alluding to on Twitter.

I would like to see a new movie from todd Field, even though I wasn't the biggest fan of Tar.

I would like to see Austin Butler work with a filmmaker like todd Field or someone of his caliber.

But yeah, it's it sounds like maybe we'll get some more news in the new year.

Nice.

Nice, Sorry, thank great minds thinking like I guess in terms of the JK rowlling think, thank you, waka mad cinastor mcallis.

If you could be cast in any movie role, what would it be?

I would cast Roker or Jeff as Jeremy Renner and mayor of Kingstown.

The Meltowns would be insane.

Hey, I like that show and so does Jeff, So yeah.

Mayor, I would I could never be the mayor because there's only one fucking mayor and his name is Jeremy fucking Rent.

I love Mayor of Case.

That show is this year absolutely insane.

Showed me deaths and ship that I've never seen before, and I think I hadn't seen it all.

You gotta see.

I gotta catch up because EDI's I love Edie.

As an ask Richard Brake is so good.

Like if if New Line had any balls, Richard Brake would be Freddy Krueger.

They would Maren Elm Street with Richard Brake.

Uh, he's just not you know, maybe big enough of a name.

Yeah.

I would cast myself in a revenge film.

Those are my favorite films, like See Sue is something like ce Sue.

Well, like my whole family is killed and I have to go and kill a whole group of people, uh, to get revenge.

That's my thing.

Spoofer Man says, Now the Oscars are on YouTube, do we see Studio's debut trailers as a replacement for Tuisiana as like the Game Awards?

Maybe?

I mean yes, they should be promoting that product more on the oscar is anyways, whether it's an ABC or YouTube, I don't understand, you know why they why Hollywood itself doesn't take better advantage of its own show.

Yeah, all right, let's see this one.

And Jeff I got his restaural quick, so'll be right back, guys, all right.

Zion Miguel says, I just saw j Kelly.

I really liked it.

In y'all's opinion, y'all think Sandler should and would get an Oscar nom and over Jacob Alordie.

Should we take out Paul Mescal.

I didn't think Paul Meskal was fucking anything to write home about, particularly and ham and I was more impressed with Jacob Elordi's turn in Frankenstein.

I thought Sandler was the best part of j Kelly, and I would be fine with Sandler getting an Oscar nomination, but I did not like the movie.

I thought the movie was not very good and it's been absolutely insane reading some of these glowing reviews like go watch Squid in the Well, dude, like that's a no, a bumblock movie.

I don't know what this is.

It was interesting today reading the variety Oscar predictions.

They had Andrew Scott from Blue Moon getting a nomination over definitely over Sandler and a Lordie.

I'm not sure if mescal was in their predictions.

I think that he was just simply based on this trump of Hammet for Best Picture.

I watched Blue Moon this week, or you know, kind of watched it while I was writing something, and I don't really think Andrew Scott needs a nomination.

I don't see that.

I'd much rather have Sandler nominated see.

Sorry, that's it, We're done.

Next question perfect, Sorry forty two ounces of water.

I had to go all right.

Bessa's a McCall out of theater reaction type focus normal and call haul off style, noise and people everywhere.

Jeff's twenty years later, what the fuck was that?

Did you see Bone Temple?

There were screenings last week?

Did you see Bone Temple?

You think I was invited to that?

I never know what you're invited.

I got an invitation today for like the all media screening in January, And again I like the trailer that they put out there.

I just haven't heard the best most encouraging things from a source who I trust, even though all the critics who saw in the movie last week seem to really like it.

Then again, they also really like Danny Boyle's movie, which I was disappointed by.

I agree.

I'm in your camp.

I didn't like it.

Vakavaka so post welcome to Darry.

How we feel about Andy Muschietti.

That's TV.

But even The Bold is a movie.

That's how I feel about And maybe he's got extra cachet to come back and do it, but I still think they've moved on from it.

Jeff, how are you feeling about Andy mcchetti.

I think he's a fine director.

He hasn't really made anything that speaks to me.

I mean, I'm not a big fan of the IT movies.

You know the flash It's okay, Mama is okay.

I mean he does.

He's very like, kind of workmanlike, so not really itching to see his next movie.

And I didn't finish Welcome to Daria.

I got the screeners.

I watched an episode or two and I was like, yeah, I'm good, yep, maybe I'll finish it.

Uh.

I liked it, but I still think the I think Vogel said it best on gig Buddies.

The mushietyisms are still there, so you know, it's not like you won't still get those if he was to do a Batman Brave in a boat walker.

Box is a great show.

And then then there's Roca with his gun Trump ps arguably the most liberal director in Hollywood and his Trump MB.

He's just an executive motherfucker.

I didn't say he had the political leanings of Trump.

I said the way he handles things is how he trump him.

Why do you guys need things?

They're like, are you not intelligent people.

Can you not disseminate nuance in a conversation or in a comment like I didn't say he was Trump.

He's politically a conservative.

I said, the way he handles things is trumpy and there's a fucking difference.

Jesus Christ Tupac.

Tupac was smarter than this.

If you're gonna use his avatar, be that smart?

I mean, wait, go back to that one.

Okay, this is like the maybe he's just an executive.

Other executives don't talk like this.

Yes, so you know, and it's refreshing in a way that he doesn't talk like a fucking corporate robot, which is would be worse.

But he's not just an executive.

He's the face of the brand and what they've sold the entire Superman movie.

You are.

They don't sell movies in other areas of Hollywood because you know, they like they don't sell with the executive who greenland it for direction.

Janker avatar to a dumb rapper, that's what you are, shelf presence.

There are multiple green lanterns flashes Captain Marvels's room for two Captain Americas.

I think will be okay.

It works in the comics just fine.

Yeah, but the comics aren't movies, bro.

The comics aren't movies, bro.

And I think what Jeff points out really well, he's coming back with Steve Rodgers, not necessarily as Captain America.

It works in the comics, just fine.

This is a different medium.

This is a visual medium.

The multiverse worked fine in the comics.

How's it working out in the in the theaters?

Not so well?

Joel Davis two ninety says, any juicy Star Wars rumors to close out the year, Jeff, I haven't heard anything.

Have you got anything?

No, But let's just say I'm mode.

Oh okay, there you go.

If there is Star Wars news to break, I can almost one hundred expect that news to break.

On the inside, I'd be very surprised, right and they know it.

I'm trying to power through these, Jeff, because I know you've got limited time.

So if we go over, it's because you know, you take a little bit of stetty bitch.

Okay, Okay, Dcel's here nine seven INSS we watched one battle after another amazing movie.

But it's crazy that mid level PTA would win Best Picture over there will be blood or Boogie Knights.

Mid Pta is still amazing, though.

It's not.

Yeah, you're not winning Best Picture over There will be bloodor Boogie Knights.

They're not nominated this year.

But I'm with you.

It is insane that any like critic with face can sit there and tell me that one battle after another is Paul Thomas Anderson's best movie.

Yeah.

I would never say to be thrown in a gulag and never be allowed to watch another movie again.

That's what I honestly think.

I would take these people right out of the jobs, throw over the back of the unemployment.

It's not mid Pta, first of all, but it's not better than There would Be Blood.

I think it's better than Boogie Knights because I've never been the biggest fan of that movie, but I wouldn't put it above what there will be blood.

Get in the back, No half at the gulag.

I'm half in the guleg.

Frand T has the three fourteen says the Roka didn't like JP Rebirth and Jeff did.

The Rocan didn't like fired Ash, Jeff did.

I think I'm beginning to understand this relationship.

What does Jeff think about Blade Wenner?

That's what did you hate it, you go there, you go, Joyus Romer ninety one success.

Hey hout Low, what's your thoughts on the twenty twenty six lineup for Star Wars?

Uh?

Car justly optimistic but fearing the worst.

I'll be honest with you.

It's the same creative team who's done Star Wars for the last few years, So why should I think anything will be different.

We'll see, we'll see Casey grit.

How many minutes should they shave off Avatar three forty five?

I would say, Jeff, that's a.

Good fucking question.

I think you're right.

I think it's thirty to thirty five.

Yeah, I mean there's a that movie shouldn't have been longer than two hours and thirty two hours and forty most serious Brooklyn I know doesn't like I know Jeff doesn't like comic book.

Whether any questions?

Just curious you guy, who you guys think would win a fight?

Wonder Woman or Supergirl.

Wonder Woman is willing to kill, but Supergirl's Kryptonian, So I would say Supergirl, Jeff.

I'll go wonder Woman.

Don't bring a don't bring a girl to do a woman's job.

Oh good, good answer, Good answer.

Andrew Brown anyone.

I would love a Transformers last stand of the Wreckers movie, as there are so many great Transformers comics to take inspiration from.

Well, I'm sure that's an ip.

They're gonna look at Jeff just like Star Trek and get new people aboard.

David Ellison will to bring Transformers to like.

Yes, that is definitely a priority of the new regime.

Last stand of the records.

I don't know who the records are.

I think Bay is coming back one million percent to direct one of those things.

Fantastic.

I love Rob b Reiner and ed TV.

His death is tragic.

Oh yeah, he was great in d TV.

I've loved the Wolf of Wall Street clips that are going around.

I was just gonna say that what six thousand signs.

When he tells him to shut the fuck up.

That's just a great button to the scene.

Great button.

And the aliis has saw digg or teaser any behind the scenes details we talked about it.

I think everything we know about it, Jeff, anything extra that I don't you know.

It's about the most powerful man who I think has to save the world from something.

So I'm just wondering what the threat is.

Yeah, I don't and the shovel.

Are you optimistic about Doomsday?

I'm worried.

I'm a little concerned.

The nostalgia grab of it all, the nostalgia bait of it all.

It just makes me worried.

I would say that, are you.

Kind of excited, because I mean it goes both ways.

I'm kind of excited because I'm excited to see the MSU do anything different.

Yea true.

Downey is doom.

Sure, I'll take it, just anything where he's not Iron Man for one movie, even though yeah, it's weird.

Am I optimistic?

It's time to say optimistic because I'm not optimistic about any movie that goes into production without a third act.

Well, that's a full completed script that people have given serious thought and consideration too.

Did you see Jumanji?

Did I see Jumanji?

What do you mean the new Jumanji that there's sorry forgive me, forgive me brain fart, it's the same fucking thing.

Did you see the new Anaconda?

No, I haven't said.

I didn't get a screening for it here yet.

Okay, okay, sorry, I saw Ana Kona last night.

I am embarrioed until next week.

But there is a whole gag about moving like ice cube, like being like there's you know, that's what movies do these days.

They go into production without a fucking script and no third act, and it's like, yike, I've heard this about so many movies.

Thank you for acknowledging it.

Anaconda man said he liked it, So you can say you liked it or didn't like it, can't you.

I'm not gonna say any anything because I am still sitting.

With it, Okay, but that's never a good sign that you can't sit with a comedy.

Either it works or it doesn't.

It's I don't know.

We'll see Robert Sanchez, John cool Shirt, thank you you never walk along, Baby, jeff Any Marvel Star Wars Scoop.

I think we covered that's yeah.

Well, oh, do we have a show next week?

We have to make it.

We have to make an announcement.

I would have to be Friday, right because Christmas is third, so Thursday, so.

Maybe we'll do a showday maybe Monday, Tuesday, okay, and then the rest of the week will take off.

Is that what you're saying.

I'm cool with that.

If you want to little maybe give you a little marble scoop next week.

Save that question from next week.

Ask me again, Keltrick Perkins, if it's something to two says Hello, how do you guys think Netflix will handle HBO?

I know they say they won't shut down the service, but no way on earth Netflix will doesn't want that Potter show on Netflix day one?

Right, Well, I didn't even think about it.

I think they're still going to keep it separate for a bit and then see how this all goes down, and then maybe combined because they benefit both ways, don't they, Jeff?

I guess.

I mean if they're yeah, like's if it's gonna drive sign ups to HBO, then yeah.

I mean, I don't really know what the difference would be.

I think it's all about timing, Like, is this deal going to close next year when oh, yeah, the series is do win early twenty twenty seven.

Yeah.

Yeah, But the Netflix's aesthetic is not the HBO aesthetics, So I just would be curious to see how they would do that.

Plus, there's a thing about having too much content, Jeff.

If you have to bring all the HBO Max over on top of all the Netflix stuff, it could get buried and lost.

And I think you're risking losing eyes on your content by doing that.

I think again, you have to start advertising and do the whole campaign.

What next summer, next fall?

Is the deal closed by then?

And is it if you're advertising one thing on HBO in the fall coming you know, in January every part of the series, and then everybody signs up for HBO maybe a few months early and the like.

Are they allowed to be like psych it's not an HBO still closed, so I think it'd probably be available.

Trying to see would it be available both places?

Oh well, maybe I don't know makes sense.

Wayne Edwards forty two is up, Wayne, Good to see your brother.

Good evening.

I did rewatch of The Fantastic Four recently.

You're one of the only ones.

It is still underwhelming to me.

However, the production design is amazing and the Fantastic Four main theme is awesome.

I listened to it every morning.

I agree the theme is great.

I agree that the production design is amazing.

But yeah, definitely a underwhelming movie that did not really stick in the public consciousness.

It is the least watched of the most recent Marvel movies to go on Disney.

Plus that's that's a shame.

It's also just came out in July, Like, what was the more watch than a movie that's been on the service for two years?

I mean, I mean the least watched debut of the most recent marvel So like less people saw that on the David's debut than saw Thunderbolts or Captain America four.

So I think that's that's a shame overall.

Kelchrick Perkins water Bub's announced today very strong viewership for it.

Welcome to Darren.

Do you think w B will capitalize on this with a new movie or Pennywise spinoff film?

Well, he said he's doing two seasons more.

He wanted two more seasons of it, So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a penny Wise spinoff film, because I think he's trying to bring him back if you watch the.

Show, so, I mean, I haven't heard anything to that effect.

It wouldn't be the craziest thing to do another IT movie, just an original movie that isn't based on a book or anything.

It's not.

It's not a crazy idea kill trick.

But as far as viewership goes, all the ship means absolutely nothing to me.

And I'll tell you why.

It's like I was watching football, yes play or whatever.

I forget what fucking channel I was watching, and then you know, football ends, and then it just kicks to the next hot streaming show that they have wherever I was watching it.

Yeah, how many people were in the same boat.

We were all millions of people watching football.

Football game ends, broadcast is over, Boom auto autos start new hot streaming series.

Yeah.

And then you're like, you don't even realize.

It's just on the back and you're like, wait, what is playing right now?

And they got your two minutes?

Is that of you a good boet?

All these numbers are fucking gobbledygook to me.

Wacobaca says, don't get so angry, baby, I love you.

I didn't assault you.

You did thinking that I was comparing him politically to Trump.

It's got to insulted yourself.

Quinsy Ryan, been with y'all since the shmowdown.

Appreciate you both so much.

I'm twenty eight and watched when Harry met Sally for the first time last night, pure bliss.

That's the perfect time to do it, Quincy Ryan.

I also came late to when Harry met Sally and I think you need to have some romantic experience to fully appreciate that movie.

Missal nine seventy says, who's the best director of all time?

That's a cur of Kurosawa for me, Jeff, who's the best director of all.

I don't even want to say, because your answer is way classier than mine.

You've got to write whatever you want to say.

It's all subjective.

Who is the best director of all time?

That's that's tough, Okay, I might I might have to say, Marty, Oh yeah.

Great answer.

Uh c C Black idea says Rumor's Doomsday has five trailers.

Loki was added, Oh jesus.

Hey, what's there?

I hear incoming?

Called Florence Pugh now on the phone with her agent, upset that she's not getting her own trailer.

Maybe uh Sadi's sake?

Jan Gray rumor appears true?

Who fucking see Black says it?

Yeah, who fucking knows?

I had no idea.

That's That's what I'm gonna say, Like, I have no idea because everyone's like, well, Jeff Schneyder this rumor, he said it that she was Jean Gray.

True.

But if you'll recall, like a week later, I was like, I backtracked and I and I said, he's actually playing Zo, So true?

Is?

I really have no fucking idea?

And next week's Marvel rumor may involve the same character, so who knows?

There you go, all right, we gotta go through these.

I know you gotta go.

Jeff Samuel says, do you all think the do you think with the Oscars move to YouTube, that they will allow live reactions on other YouTube channels like to do with the Game Awards.

I would love that.

That's one of my highest performing videos every year, is my live watchlog of the Oscars.

But I can't put it on the screen if they let us put it on the screen.

Fuck, yeah, what do you think?

And you've got the Oscars hosted by Jeff Snyder and there ain't gonna be anything better than that.

Thoughts on Grace Randolph trashing Steven Spielberg on thinking the Disclosure Day trailer was mediocre, as well as trashing his last two movies and his movies in the two thousands, like Minority Report, War of the Worlds.

I respect other opinion, but I disagree.

Yeah, so there you go.

You disagree to her opinion.

I think minority report other than a messy ending is like a terrific sci fi movie, Greed, But I'm with you on War of the Worlds.

I'm with Grace.

I'm not a fan.

I like War the Worlds up until Tim Robbins shows up, and then everything after that is just another mess That's that's fair.

Yeah, yeah, routine, says I love the hot mic all the At the end game, Bruce tells Steve he needs to put the stones back exactly where they left off, or it will open up a bunch of realities.

Now doom as possibly coming for cap For all we know, Steve didn't put any stones back.

We'll see who.

I didn't think about that.

Again, you guys.

I didn't exaggerated eye roll because I could not roll my eyes any harder.

I like that idea, though, Fred keep that I put a pin in that idea.

Hunter says, Hey, guys, did you see the news that broke?

An hour ago?

The Warner Brothers announced the new film labels, to be headed by three Neon executives.

It's expected to be named officially before Sundance.

Do you think they're relaunching Warner Independent Pictures?

Thanks, that's a little too deep in.

The hole for me, Jeff, what do you think?

I don't know anything about this.

Yeah, I'm not really I'm not really sure, like what kinds of movies this label is going to be making.

M It's I mean, they already have new line.

I mean it shows that their their commitment to theatrical right.

Yeah, yeah, I like the guys that they brought in, Christian Parks.

I wondered why he had left Neon because I thought he really like I didn't know if he had left on his own a quarter, if he had sort of been shown the door, right, because I liked his campaigns, even something like Keeper, you know, which isn't like a great movie or whatever.

I really liked the campaign that that guy ran for right where you get the male perspective and the female perspective in the trailer.

That's an interesting way to make to cut a trailer for that because the movie's not like that at all.

Right, So, yeah, like Christian Parks is a talented marketer, Jason Wilde has been in like acquisitions and stuff for a long long time.

I think it's a blow to Neon for sure, losing them.

And yeah, I mean it's you can only have the more smart people, the better.

I think.

At Warner Brothers, I just don't.

I'm not sure what this label entails, like what kinds of movies.

Fleming did a whole thing about how well they're not going to be warning or independent making six movies a year.

I didn't no one thought that, like those days are over.

These guys are gonna have to make two or three movies a year, And I think they're going to be betting on young up and coming filmmakers who the studio can then have a relationship with.

They want to get in.

They don't want to have to wait for Ryan Kugler to get there.

They want to find the next Ryan Kugler and empower him, you know, after movies to make Sinners.

Well, if they're going to be launching before Sundance, that to me tells me that they want to go to Sundance and find some young, up and coming filmmakers that they want to get into a relationship with.

So yeah, yeah, Timothy says, good night the Glorious Baskets.

But got my annual Christmas pub Crawl year twenty three tomorrow Jesus twenty blocks, seventeen pubs, one beer per pub, thirty minutes at each pub, plus kicking on afterwards.

Jeff, I'll have my Reggie Lewis jersey on and for the event.

Huoru you handsome pricks.

Thank you timmoth Hot.

You have a Reggie Lewis Jersey that is still larable, integrated over time, have a great time, be safe, and most importantly, help designated drive.

Yeah.

Absolutely, I'd be dead at bar five.

Samuel says, thoughts on what that new Jimmy Stewart biopic trailer looks like a faith based movie that looked terrible.

kJ App not against kJ Appa.

I think the people involved it looks terrible.

Did you see this, Jeff, this trailer.

I did see the trailer again, it could have looked amazing.

Who is this movie for?

My my grandfather who died five years ago?

Like, I don't understand who Jimmy Stewart biopicks?

Yeah, what do we do?

They're trying to play to I think they're trying to play to the Midwest.

Dare I say, you know, like the Americana quote unquote patriot.

People in the Midwest aging differently.

I don't understand.

No, I just think they you know, they elevate the heroes of the past, and I think they see it as good salt of the earth American Jimmy Stewart, Now that was an American, you know, And I think that's what they're appealing to.

But I don't blame kja Appa for his accent at all.

He's doing the best he can.

The director is it is not a good director.

Neither are the production company behind this movie.

So you're not going to get a good movie.

I wouldn't go making a slew of I wouldn't do the old movie star biopic universe.

I wouldn't be like we had have the Spencer Tracy movie and the Carry Grant movie.

You know, go right, Judy Garland won a fucking oscar right for Rene Zelleger.

That right, by the way, always was hilarious that people had at that time.

Cruise movie was going to be called Judy not the figure is a whole lot better.

Yeah yeah, yeah they diggle, but yeah, just weird.

Uh yeah.

Wayne Edward says, hey, Rocca, thank you for the show on Monday.

Oh you're welcome, man.

Unfortunately I missed it live You and camp you are doing the Lord's work.

Praising Rob Ryder and calling out the Idiot Words by the Coneheads and by the Conehead and the White House, and great work on the Wizard of Oz three parter on the Cinephiles.

Oh thanks Wayne, very kind of your brother working hard all the time.

So it's nice to be recognized by people like you for the work we do, and thanks for listening to.

I think that that tweet from Trump, Yeah, well, you know, in the scheme of things that Trump has done, is like insignificant in that it has no real world consequences.

But I think it actually showed a lot of people, even like fans of Trump, where it's just like, what the fuck are you doing?

Dude?

Yea, the fuck is wrong with you?

Yeah, this guy just got murdered.

Yeah, by his own child, by his own child.

Like shitting on everybody's grief and paint.

It's like, dude, this guy sucks.

Yeah, sucks as a human being.

On Brian John and Jeffson, Netflix owns Lethal Weapon and Rush Hour.

Do you think they are going to reboot the franchise on Netflix?

Well, no Rush Hours with paramount, right, So why would Netflix on that?

You're off on that one, Brian, I'm not sure.

Yeah, Chris, enough with the Brendan Sclenar Batman fancasts I'd rather see someone with the acting chops in charisma of Josh O'Connor after watching Knives Out three, although hope for Pattinson.

If I'm being honest, Jeff, Josh got to make those daddiers a little bit bigger.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, that's enough enough.

I'm sorry, I mean Josh Oa.

I mean he made a joke about it hosting SNL.

I know he did.

It was really funny.

Yeah, I think Josh is great.

Josh not that man, fair point.

I agree.

I Jeffrey is Coogler's show running his X Files?

Or is he too busy with Panther three since that's his next film?

If not, who could be show running the X Files?

Thanks, Jeff.

Do you know anything about that?

I don't.

I don't know.

I mean, I've never really got the impression that he's going to be show running and he's going to be like, yeah, on set every day doing everything.

I kind of just got the idea that it was an EP thing and he has an idea and he knows who he wants to cast and they can pay his name.

In the trailer from EP, Ryan Coogler and that will sort of be the extent of it.

Yeah, two last ones, man piss and Warrior says, with all the nonsense going on with these leaked Marvel trailers, do you think Doomsday movie may come out earlier out.

Tomorrow in theaters?

I have no idea.

No, I think that.

I think that they will stick to the date.

But I think it's weird that Dune has not moved yet.

Yes, it is weird.

It is weird.

And when I said that Dune is moving, because I have a brain in my head, I got pushback on that.

Oh, pushback in the sense that well, we aren't moving because we haven't moved, right, and we were here first where I was.

I started laughing at that point.

I was like, you were here first, Like this is Avengers Dooms that you want to put your movie out of the same as Avengers, say, be my guest, good luck.

But I think it's weird that it hasn't moved yet.

Yeah.

I agree with Jeff all that Cecy Black nineties and seven, Steve Selfish for going back to Peggy hashtag team doom, respect respect that what is who's this last one?

Decel is zero nine seventy eight.

What is your advice for me who wants to make a movie blog or get into film criticism.

I went to ut film School and work in film and want to connect more.

Uh, I say, go to letterbox, start an account, start dropping reviews, and then start submitting them to sites and see if they want you to write for them.

And then you're gonna get criticism.

You're gonna get an honest analysis from some of the people, and then you'll get better at it.

Because if you think you can just start and be the greatest film blocker ever, that's the wrong way to go about it.

You're young, you're starting out.

You probably haven't seen anywhere near the films you need to see to start a blog.

But I think you should if you want to do it, just be open to criticism, be open to getting better and evolving.

Anything you want to say.

Jeff hm tricky.

I mean, the honest answer is don't.

That is the advice is, do not do this.

This is a bad idea because this used to be a job and now it's a hobby.

Yes, you know, I'm very lucky, you and I are very lucky to have made careers out of this.

Yes, but I think if we're starting out now, it would be very difficult to get traction.

I mean, listen, I've worked for a variety, the Rap Collider, I've been around twenty years.

This is this is your price, five hundred and fifty square feet one bedroom apartment in Koreatown.

So if you want to get into it, be my guest.

But I'm not gonna say this is best case scenario because obviously there are more successful plenty of more successful people than me living in much nicer places.

But let's just call this the median.

Yeah, here's the advice.

I would say, Okay, learn podcast engineering.

Oh yeah, because that's how I see it, Like, you don't have to be a major voice, but if you could get in somehow and be the guy pulling the fucking levers when the major voices are talking, and then they loop you in like there, you know, I know, like engineers now by name it the ringer, Yeah, because they're the fucking guy producing the podcast for the you know, the real critics.

Yeah.

Yeah, And I think that that could open doors and lead to something down the line.

Yeah.

I mean, Kristin Harloff has a channel does host shows, but he also produces for Matt Sarah.

He produced Katie Sakoff show before she went off on her own, and so like, you know, even a person who is successful with hundreds of thousands of subscribers to his YouTube channel is still working as in essence podcast producer.

So it helps to have those skills.

Jeff is not wrong at all.

All right, Jeff, that's everything.

That's all the stream LB supertowers.

We got gotta here.

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It's just been so overwhelming with like the holidays and gift shopping and fantasy football shit, and like it's endless.

People understand, dude.

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In early December, I'm I go till December thirty.

First.

January first is when the twenty twenty five Year in Review starts.

Okay, I am going to use every single day and it ends about priorities every single day until December thirty first, to watch as much as I can, and then at that point it's over.

And if you didn't watch a movie, it's because I either didn't have access to it or I really didn't want to.

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