Hi.

I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

We are a sibling.

Railvalry, No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, revelry.

That's good.

How was last night?

It was amazing.

It was really great.

It was a great night.

It was just like so many amazing women and I was it was the Power of Women Variety honors, you know, we were like five of us were honored for the work we do outside of like, you know, acting, and it was great.

It was so it was great, It was it was It was I had all my girlfriends there and all I wanted to do is hang with my girlfriends, but there was no time.

We were just listening to a bunch of speeches.

So we were all like, I wanted to hang and then we couldn't.

I know, I heard the speech was good.

Scotty said that you helped you write it.

Yeah, the speech was great.

The speech was really great.

And uh yeah, he's he's a good editor.

Scotty's a good editor.

Scotty is my brother on on running point.

King over like the real brother role.

The lines are getting.

Blurred, but uh yeah, he's uh he helped, he helped me kind of edit, you know, I overwrote it.

I but it's such an interesting concept, like to be powerful, Like what is it?

What does that mean?

You know?

Because that's such it's such a polarizing actually concept, Like it's amazing, you need it, it's vital for your life and for your life force.

But then it's also so destructive and can be so destructive.

Yeah, you know, so like when I started thinking about it, I was like, what a crazy word to you know, the power of women, and like, because the power can be amazing and used in these amazing ways, or it could be like really destructive.

You know.

So there's different degrees of power in different contexts of power, you know.

I mean you're a powerful woman in your own home, when you're raising your children, you know, you're a powerful.

Well it is, that's right, but but also like, but there's also so many aspects to it, like to what does it mean?

To like where does it come from?

Someone on the carpet was like, you know, where do you get your power from?

I was like, am I Vagina say that?

I was like, I think my vagina.

But you know there's something that go with it because like powerful, like they're it's not like a destination, do you know what I mean?

Like to be powerful isn't a destination.

It's actually something you have to Like it's used in everyday life, like you know, literally, like how people harness their own power is so specific to them.

You know.

Yeah, some people they're waking up in the morning and getting up and having a positive day means they've harnessed like a great powerful day.

That's what I'm saying.

Like it can be minuscule or it can be big, h you know, and sometimes being powerful can be relinquishing your power because you're not in it, that's right.

Or like what I say, it's like the power of women is, which is the ability to be able to connect the head and the heart at the same time, you know, because we're so in two women are so into live and we're you know, we were empisthetic.

We're nurtures by biologically, you know, by nature, where we lean more towards that.

When they introduced you, did you walk out to the power of love?

I forgot the Rolling Stone song.

I was like, this is the best Lewis don't take money, don't don't credit.

That's the best.

Oh my god, the power.

I was listening to another Huey Lewis song the other day, which was it came up, It's the best.

Someone said something and you know, our family, this.

Is it love, it is this.

I know.

And we had this whole moment with you know, because we're wrapping up our second season, and we were laughing because every time someone says something, I can think of a song, because that's like our family superpower for some reason, and I broke into because I think I or someone said, well, this is it, and I was like, this is it.

He is a.

Song.

I know.

You're in the car, by the way, do yourself a favor and blast some Huey Lewis in the car.

Yeah, it's so good.

It's the best.

Huey Lewis is the best.

And when you saw that documentary about what Quincy when he did.

The that the show, you know, when you did the song.

Yeah, it was so great to see Huey Lewis was so he was the coolest guy in there.

Love.

I loved his vibe.

You know.

Of course with all these like Whitney Houston and what am I doing.

He was so cool, he was so humble.

We have ants and here who's been a friend of mine for a long long time.

Yes, to see if he feels that he is powerful, perful?

What's going on?

You know what?

I always have to watch my back.

Okay, okay, I have a quick question, Kate, where the hell are you?

Because Ala looks like he's in his cloppet.

I mean I can see his dirty frog.

Kate's like an English countryside.

He look like he's in a dark English manner.

She's actually a universal city of the Harry Potter exhibit.

I'm in my son's room, man like, I don't have my own space in this house, so I just have to find any place that I can settle down in.

And yes, okay it is open.

We get to see what this little bastards were here.

Look at this.

Look at this ship.

Oh no, oh.

No, but you know what you're responsible for this me he's.

Just seen he no, no, no live if he wants to live in ship, he can live in ship.

Well.

And I've known you for a million years, but I know nothing about your background, Like where did you grow up?

Do you have siblings?

Like where how did this all start first of what kind.

Of researchers do you have on you your podcast?

You can have this information, dude, we do.

We do it.

It's right here.

But but the but we do it so that you answer the question.

Okay, okay, I can I.

Can't read it.

I can't read I can't read everything about you that way.

So listen.

Border raised in Compton, California.

I knew that.

That's that you knew three siblings.

I'm the oldest of four, three boys and a girl.

My sister is the youngest.

Unfortunately, I lost my younger brother fifty five.

Twenty three, twenty four years ago.

Damn Yeah, car accident while he was a student in playing football at West Texas A and M.

So it's two brothers and a sister.

Now me, my my younger brother under me and my baby sister.

What's crazy?

My father before he passed, had plus size women clothing stores, right, and they were called three d's in an angel named after our children, and the D stand for devils but to put up.

So there's basically three devils in an angel of clothing store.

Genius.

So that was that.

That's so cute.

Yeah, and your mom, I know, Mom, I know mom.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if mom.

Mom is doing well.

She's in Carson, California.

She is, she's an actress now, but before then was a telephone operator for one of one of the hospitals here and we actually for the County of Los Angeles.

But always wanted to be an actress and it never worked out for her because she's horrible.

And I made it to.

A position where I could actually give her her chance just to live out her wildest.

Dream, which you did.

I mean, she's in everything that you touch now.

You know what I mean.

I'm making a point to do that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's amazing.

Yeah yeah, but she's doing well.

It's a little too early for her to be in the Bengal Hall, but it's it's Thursday to be at a Bengal hall at six o'clock to day.

How old is your mom?

She's seventy three.

She's eighteen years my senior.

Yeah, no, seventeen seventeen, so she's seventy teen.

She's only seventeen years, so she's seventy.

She had you when she was seventeen.

Yeah, her on your and your siblings, what are the age differences?

I have no idea.

Do you know how your your sibling?

Sorry, I have no idea.

My whole mind is my brother told me how old he was.

I was like, fuck you that.

I don't know how old my siblings are.

What do you mean?

No, I with the age differences, like, are you close in are you all close in age?

Oh?

My brothers and I are?

I am.

I'm fifty five.

I think my brother is turrently fifty this year or no, no's I'm four years older than my brother.

He's turning fifty.

He's twenty fifty one this year.

My deceased brother would be forty nine.

But crazy about them.

I just tell you about my parents.

They like to make the love around the same same time every year.

My brother's birthday are November fifteenth and November sixteenth, two years apart.

My god, yeah, November fifteen, sixteen, two years apart.

They literally it's a it's mating season, the mating season exactly.

And my sister, my brother is forty one.

My sister my brother brother would have been forty nine.

I think my sister is forty six.

Oh, like you're pretty close yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah?

And growing up, where do you do?

Where'd you go to school.

I went to Roosevelt Elementary and Compton Wayley Junior High Compton, and then I went to the Los Angeles County High School for the Performing Arts for.

For high Did you know that, I mean early on, did you know what you wanted to do?

I mean it was probably obviously, you know, nine.

Years old, I knew I wanted to play football for the Dallas Cowboys.

You know, that was my dad's team, America's team at the time.

I wanted to be a lawyer, and I wanted to be an actor.

And at the age of nine, I realized that if I became an actor, I could be all three of those things and whatever else I wanted to become in life.

And so I decided to be an actor.

And it happened this way.

My mother was in a production of A Raisin in the Sun at Compton Community College, and I was in the back of.

The theater with my two brothers.

We were just playing as my mother was on stage and rehearsing rehearsing, and I just happened to look up on stage one day, went from playing with our toys or whatever we were doing, just having to look up, and I saw them doing anything on stage, and I said, that is what I'm going to do with the rest of my life.

And I went back to playing with my brothers and here we are, forty years later.

What had been?

But what was it?

What was the thing?

You know?

It was it?

Just the did it?

Did it correlate to you growing up to childhood to sort of, you know, becoming something else, to immersing yourself in something different.

I also think it's interesting that you were little and it was Raisin in the Sun, which is pretty heavy, Yeah, really incredibly heavy, and you're like, I'm going to do that.

First off, when I look back, I was like, what kind of protection was my mother?

I didn't know it was a comedy, but but yeah, yeah it was.

It was that, And.

I don't know, Oliver, you know, I realized that at a very early age, I realized that my energy was put on this earth to entertain.

I was able to recognize that that, you know, this is why I'm here.

Called it naivete or.

Foolishness, but this is all I ever prepared to do in life.

And since that moment looking up on stage, I put myself in position to learn to study, to do anything, and any chance I got to have a captive audience.

I took it.

Be it.

My pastor wanted.

Me to sing his favorite song, Amazing Grace at church, even though I couldn't sing, I got up and sang in front of the congregation.

If there was a spelling bee at school, I was the first one to join.

If there was somebody that the teacher asked to read aloud, I always raised my hand.

Any chance I got to have a captive audience, be in front of somebody and to do what I wanted to do, I did.

And I started doing that at nine years old.

I was like, yo, this is it.

It wasn't an adrenaline thing.

It wasn't like I want to be a star, Like, no, this is why I'm here.

I'm supposed to be.

I'm supposed to have a captive audience.

Did you do theater a little bit?

A little bit, but not until like high school when we were doing plays in college, But before then, you know, found myself in little things.

I always found an acting class.

I always found a class to hone the craft, and that started maybe around eleven twelve.

Were you did you study with anybody?

Do you still?

Do you still study with people or do.

I haven't in a while.

I used to take a class this is this gym by the name of Tony Greca.

I would take his classes and just things that I did in in in school and whatnot.

But he was the only, uh a private coach that that I had in my career.

Going back just the second growing up, like, what was your what was your household?

Like?

Was there a lot of freedom?

You know?

Was it strict was or was like go go do your thing, you know, just bed before dark types?

No, it was free man.

Uh.

You know, you know, I grew up in a time where I was the last key kid.

You know, I'm the oldest of four children, so it was you know, I I was like the second parent, you know, getting getting my younger brothers uh from from daycare and all that, and then just having the house to ourselves growing up.

And I had the Yale house key on a shoe street, you know that I would give my brother and sisters.

I come home, unlocked the door, get in the.

House, lock the door, and then we would just you know, we would have our freedom to until my mom came home and tell my dad came home from work.

So yeah, and my mother, you know, again, this was all she ever wanted to do, so she was very supportive of me.

In the arm.

That's so great.

You did any of your other siblings?

Is everybody pretty artistic?

Like or leaned towards the arts.

My brother who is the c had a he had a knack for art, you know, so this is god thirty thirty thirty five years ago.

My brother would make art out of aluminum for it, you know, which was just amazing.

Like he would take family portraits and we purchased them, but but create a family portrait out the full wow figures of people out of aluminum foil and paint them.

And I always wanted to.

I always thought that it was so intricated, it so beautiful that my me and my other brother was like, yo, man, this needs to be on display.

You know this, people need to see this.

And so for Christmas and his birthday, his birthdays, all he wanted was a luminum foil just.

To create things.

Man.

He created, uh.

The Starship Enterprise one day and that blew my mind and wow, brother made the star Starship Enterprise.

You still have those pieces?

I have, I have I have a few pieces he made.

Make a piece of my daughter Uh, you know you have.

My baby was maybe not even to maybe eighteen months, so you take those little cute portraits, sent him a picture of it.

While he was in uh going to college, and uh he made my daughter.

He brought her picture to life in this three b thing and painted her and all to give her pigtails and everything.

But yeah, yeah, so me and my brother that was it.

The other but my other brother, he's a trauma nurse at Martin Luther King Hospital and uh in the er.

And my my sister, she works at at another hospital in Bility.

When did you what was your first like job job?

Oh, my first.

Job job, my first job job.

But I got I thought as a as as an entertainer's honor.

I was Captain Craving's I was at Howard University and this gourmet dessert delivery company.

Needed a mascot, so they they came to Howard.

I don't know how I ended up at Howard.

And they wanted an actor, and so they came into the School of Fine Arts and they said what they were doing.

So I met with these guys.

And I got the gig and I shot this little uh commercial for them, uh in d C.

This little regional thing for them, and they loved it so much that they made me the mascot.

But my job was actually this was this was this was Uber East before there was Uber East.

I used to do.

I had to deliver the the dessert to to these offices.

I was like, yo, man, I'm not acting.

I was like, yo, I'm a I'm I'm deliver.

But it was it was my first because I was in full costume.

I was Captain Cravings.

That was my name, Cravings.

I had on a black pair of tights.

I had on some Chuck Taylors.

Uh.

Fortunately there's no pictures to cooperation.

I was going to say, where can we find these again?

I had some bedazzled Chuck Taylors.

I had on a white Cravings catering sweatshirt.

I had on a pink cake.

I had on uh, some silver, a silver long ranger mass rhymestone and off to match.

And on the back of the cake it said Captain Cravings and it said if you ever need to be saved, dial seven.

Nine seven Crave.

And I had to fucking that was my first acting bad.

Did you all just show up delivering things in the outfit?

That was the only way I could deliver the things.

You must have gotten so laid in the outs, I said, if you.

Ever I said, if anybody ever orders this from Howard University, it will never be delivered by me.

Oh my god.

That's a good that's a good person.

That was my That was my first act gate now my first professional gid.

What like what you got your sade card?

Yeah?

On my resume?

Was I wanted?

It was a Roger Foreman film called Alien Avengers.

Uh.

And I was in it with George Wynn And I'll never forget this.

At the end of the day, I went to say goodbye to George and he was sitting out on the step of him.

We had these double bangers.

He was sitting on the step of his double banger with an ice chest full of beer and I was like, oh shit, it's real.

It's really the guy for Gears.

I had a beer when George went at the end of the day, Alien Avengers, Roger Foreman film was uh.

And were you were you hyped or was this just huge?

Oh?

It was huge for me?

Yeah?

Yeah, so what I mean?

Yeah, it was it was huge for me.

It was it was one day's worth the work.

Yeah, you know, maybe two scenes in something really campy.

But it was fun and I got to work with some great people.

And I get to say that was my claim the same That was how I got my sag guard.

What was the gig though?

That really made you believe and understand, like, oh shit, like this is it?

This is now, I'm I'm I'm on my way here, you know what I mean.

My second gig it was a half hour comedy with ll WHOJ and Debbie Allen on NBC.

Yeah, in the House, in the House.

That's right.

That was your second gig.

That was that was that was That was my second gig.

And that was what year was that?

Nineties?

That was ninety five.

And and here's the thing.

I was the first person in my friend group to have a kid.

And I went to my boys.

I went to my boys to tell them.

Now, mind you, when I went to my boys place, this was a place that had seven grown men living in a one bedroom, one bathroom apartment.

And we and we affectionately called it the cave.

So I went to the cave, you know.

Hang out with my boys and let them know that I was uh going to want to be a dad.

And my boy had in blast ended up becoming my writing partner and creating my very first sitcom, all about the Anderson's on the WB We were we.

Went out on the breezeway and he was like, what are you going to do?

And it was just crazy.

I was like, I got to get me a TV show.

And we laugh about it now because you know, he said, what are you going to do?

I looked at dead and I said, I got I got to give me a television show.

And he walked off and two weeks later I got a television show.

Amazing, dude, but.

It was it was.

It was in the house.

I did the first episode in November.

My daughter was born.

I did the first episode November nineteen ninety five.

My daughter was born February sixth, nineteen ninety six, and the day, the morning of February seventh, I'm laying with my daughter on my chest and I'm in a refiner in the room, and my whole thing was is you lived to with your mother's heartbeat for the last nine months.

The first heartbeat you're going to live with outside of your mother is mine.

Though I had her sleeping on my chest and I don't think I slept that entire night.

I just stared at her.

And at six point thirty that morning, my cellphone.

It's my mom.

She said, where are you at.

I was like, me where I met?

You know, I'm at the house.

You know, I just had a baby.

She said, what NBC is looking for you?

I was like, for what?

To go to work on?

What?

And usually back on that show you did, But with the rapper, I was like, in the house.

He said yeah, I said when she said eight third and I was like, how do you know this?

Well?

They dropped this back in the day when they used to drop off scripts at your crib.

They dropped off a script last night and it says you have to be there at eight thirty to day and I was like, okay.

So hung the phone, kiss my kiss my daughter, kissed my lady and said, Daddy gotta go to work.

And I drove into work with pictures.

I had Polaroid pad, a POLLOI camera so and I had another camera.

So on the way to work, I went to one of those one.

Hour photo map places and I had the pictures delivered and I showed them at the table, reading with pictures of my newborn baby and thanking them for this because my baby was born the last night, not even twelve hours.

I mean, but fatherhood must have shaped so much of your career because you had her young, So it must have been I mean, I would assume driving like definitely a motivate, a driving force.

No, it was it was it got me focused, you know, because at that time I was I was twenty five at the time.

Young.

It's like, you know, I can, I can, I can.

I can survive on my own, I can, I can, I can make it on my own.

But the moment my lady.

Came home and told me she was pregnant with our kid, that that changed it everything for me because now I'm responsible for people.

You know, I can't go.

Through life it's like you're just figuring it out on the fly and as I go along, because I'm no longer a solo passenger.

You know.

I people with me now that you know, are depending on me, and I'm responsible for uh and and and.

Having my daughter.

Got me focused on what it was that I needed to do as an artist.

And once I got focused, it was just crazy.

I realized that everything was always right before me, you know.

I was just focused on other ship and becoming a father, open my eyes, so all the things that I needed to be doing in order to be successful at This is my dream.

This is all I ever wanted to do with life.

This is all I ever wanted.

Did you?

Did you always want to do comedy or did you it was that your focus?

Or was it just to do what is an amazing dramatic actor?

No?

I know, but but but but you've really made millions and millions of people laugh, you know.

Which is.

So?

I wonder like, what was your Did you come into it wanting to do more of one thing?

No?

I just wanted to come into it and be the hardest and offer what I had.

Comedy was was a way in.

You know, I'm funny by nature.

I you know, I get it from you know, it came from inside my home.

I get it.

I got it from my mother.

You know, I got it from my friends growing up and realized that I'm I'm pretty good at this.

Now.

If you were to talk to my friends, they're like, Anthony was never funny.

He was never funny.

They're like, but I will tell you this, he did always give you that one that would drop you to your knee.

We never knew when we were going to get that one, but he would always hit you with one.

They were like, oh shit, he's funny.

But up until then I was nothing, and they take pride and.

Funny.

It just happened.

I'm me go back for a second, because when you had the kid or your wife was pregnant, you're on the breezeway and you said, all right, I got to get a job, and then two weeks later you're getting a job.

Where do you stand with your sort of spirituality, with your idea, with this idea of sort of the universe of working hard to get lucky.

I mean, where are you with that generally great question?

I believe it's uh And I'm going to be all over the place with this answer, but it's going to make sense.

It's all about a manifestation, you know, and and seeing those things for me.

For seeing those things, I never I stopped wanting for things in life a long time ago because I realized I would always want that girl, I would always want that car, will always want to take that trip.

I would always want I would want something and I would never obtain it.

It was always just outside of my grasp.

And I realized a long time ago that in wanting for something, all I did was create a want for it.

I never said that it was mine.

I never claimed it as my own.

I never saw myself having it.

I just saw myself wanting those things.

And I started to change the way that I thought of things.

And you know, for meetings and auditions, I have my own little personal mantra that I would say that I claimed this as my own.

If it's meant for me to have, and if it's meant for me, it's meant for me.

And if it's not, it's going to go to Kate.

If it's not, I can't be mad.

And I get that because it wasn't mine.

So if I don't get the gig, if I don't get that it wasn't mine to get that, that's that I learned that there's a higher power that we are connected to.

And I realized this at a barely early age.

I realized this when I was nine years old.

I realized the power that we have, but in particular the power that I had.

And I tell people all this all the time.

I was like, it's so simple that it's difficult because you can't believe that it's this simple.

To tap into that, into the universe and claim and ask.

In all of that, I would always be up in Canada making these movies Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton.

All these entre y'all.

And then one thing I just said, you know, I said to myself, I said I want to be out of the country and make a movie.

And I kept going back up to Canada.

And then I was like, oh shit, hold.

On, it's not that we're going to go further.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm not be specific in my ask and it goes into specificity, right, And so I was like, well, you know what, let me change how I asked for these things.

And I specifically, specifically said the next movie I make, I will need a passport to enter the country and it will be overseas.

And I say all that because.

At that time, all you needed was a birth certificate to get into Canada and you just drive right up and you can be there.

And and I really, I said, I was like, I keep asking for uh, you know, to make this, make movies out of the country, and I keep ending up in Canada.

I got what I was asking for, but it was coming to me in its most general form, so it wasn't how I needed.

It, how I wanted it.

Smash cut to you in like Greenland.

So if I specifically made my ass the next movie I make will be overseas, and I will need a passport to into the country.

In the next move I make will be out of the country.

I will need a passport you into the country, and it will be overseas.

Three days later, after saying that, my manager calls and says, hey, am, Jerry Bruckheimer is doing this movie in Australia, shoots for six months.

You're in a very short list.

It's called down Under.

He wants to meet with you down Under then becomes Kangaroo Jack.

So I go into my meeting with Jerry O'Connell, who's already been cast in the movie.

We go meet and we do a few scenes.

Before I go into my scene.

What do I do?

I say my mantra, I claim this as my own.

If it's meant for me to have, I go in there have one of the best auditions I have in my life.

A day or two later, I get a call Anthony Jerry Brock Jerry Bruckhember loves you.

The job is yours now I also have to I also want to back up when I when I made the claim I never won the passport.

I made the claim, uh that the next movie I make will be shot over seas.

The very next day, I went to the passport office and I got a passport to application.

I filled it up and I went through the process of getting my very first passport, and then I get the call that Jerry Bruckhammer wants to meet me to shoot this movie.

Wow, you're a manifestor well, I was about I was about to say that, So we we've actually had people on science, scientists who believe in manifestation.

But it's not like, oh, I want two feet of snow so my skiing is good.

It's deeper, and there's more physiological, actual science based and backed sort of information on why manifesting can actually work, you know, and for you.

And I think this is really important because I was always skeptical about it.

But I'm wondering for you, how did that?

How does that work itself out?

Do you just speak it out loud to the universe?

Is that kind of how you do it?

Or do you get quiet or do you write it down?

Or what is your process with that?

My process is.

All three album Okay, I speak it out loud because words are powerful.

Yeah, you know, so that's why I watched what I started to watch what I say with regards to negative things, not even about myself, but just putting negative energy out.

I got to work on that ship.

Yeah.

I speak it out loud, I speak it in silence.

I write it down and in my other room over here, man, I have a bag of magazines and.

I'm putting together a vision board.

So I do that as well.

You know you do vision boards.

I love that they did this thing that if you have a vision board or or just the very thing you look at or you read or you focused on right before you go to sleep as one of like the best tools of manifesting because your brain, that's what your brain starts, that's what it basically like rests with that thought.

But you know what, kid, I need I need to start doing it.

I you know, sometimes I would think about those things and all that, but I've never really just looked at things.

Like that before I went to sleep.

Sometimes I'll take something and I'll be like, okay, right before I go to bed, you know, because the phone is just such a fucker, Like it's so awful for us, you know, So I sleep out.

I've gotten very ritualistic about my night because I believe in the power of words as well.

I believe in the power of what you're putting out and all of the positive output, you know.

Like I'm the kind of person probably like you or if my friends are talking shit, they turn to me and they're like, and I'm like, what do you I don't do that.

I don't know how to do that.

I'm like, I'm someone someone could be awful to me and I could be like, they're probably having a bad day, you know.

But but yeah, so I started doing that sort of visual thing, like what do I want to be putting out?

Like what what?

What?

What do I What am I looking for or what am I Yeah, it's important, it's work.

You have to work with that because I'm not.

I'm just kind of speaking for myself.

But it feels like default is negativity in a way.

You know.

Our default is fear from a primal place.

Yes, we had, it's our condition because we that's how we survived as humanity survived essentially was fear, because that's how we you know, succeeded or were able to save ourselves.

For anyone who's able to work in this business as an actor or as an artist and actually make some kind of living doing it.

It might not be their full living, but some kind of living doing it is a privilege.

It's an honor because it's so rare.

And for every one great artist, everyone, great musician, everyone, great actor, there's a thousand of them just as good that have never had the opportunity.

Mm hmm.

This is what Brewer said.

The director Kae just in a movie called Song Sung Blue.

By the way, it's fucking amazing.

She's going to be nominated for all the awards.

She is.

She's incredible.

It's really amazing.

But Craig Brewer, you know, do you.

Know Craig Craig wrote and directed Hustle, Hustle and Flow.

Yeah, of course that's right, Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

You wait till you see the movie.

Yeah, Okay, he's in his pocket.

He gave a speech at at the premiere, and that's kind of what he was saying, just you know about all of the other artists out there who have not hit who are equally as good, if not better than some of the major players in our business.

Yeah, that's exactly how it has been.

You know.

We all have our own individual journeys, you know, and I can't when we can't our journey to the next person, we have no idea what it is that they've gone through, you know, or what they're going through in the moment.

All I can be concerned about is what I'm going through and what it means to me.

Because if everything that I see that's out there, if I've claimed it as my own and I've been told that it is mine, I am going to get all that has been told is mine.

And it has nothing to do with greed or anything.

It's just like, no, I was told that that is mine right there, that is mine, right there, that is mine.

Oh, I'm going to get it all.

Now.

The other pieces that I leave behind, I'm leaving behind because those aren't meant for me.

I was told to just because I have the ability to take it all.

I'm not taking it all.

I'm taking what was told was mine because that is for somebody else, Just like somebody came into this room and into this world and took everything that was supposed to be meant for them.

They left these things behind because they were meant for me.

And that's how it is.

It's cool.

Yeah, best believe all the ship that I see that has my name tag on coming, it's coming with me, and I'm not going to leave it behind.

It's coming with me.

I love it.

It's like, oh, that's my favorite piece.

Yeah, that's your favorite piece, but my piece.

I love it.

That's inspiring.

Man, this has been my piece.

Yeah, I love it.

You can come with me and admire it all that you want, and I don't mind sharing it with you and know, but best believe that's.

My barbecue I have.

I have two triggers.

I have a green egg, I have Santa Maria grill.

Like I fucking love smoking and barbecuing, okay, and I'm decently good at it.

He is he wanted to get really yeah, I wanted to.

I was more of the old school, you know, with what you're doing your building, you know, queues out of barrels and and really doing those like two stoves what it called the the offsets, you know.

Yeah, and then I found the trigger.

And I know it seems like cheating, but it is so easy I can.

I can set it and forget it and it's fucking amazing.

Okay, you know, things are made to help people move along what they gotta do, man, and I love it.

Look, I got into barbecuing because my dad was the youngest of sixteen born in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Born on them.

That's where our feeling's from.

Yeah, my mom's did and my grandpa is aroundpa that's that's where.

That's where my dad's from, Little Rock, Arkansas, youngest of sixteen on the farm.

Wow.

So you know, fucking his brother was an Irish twin.

He was he's eleven months younger than my uncle a dad.

So they were fifty sees and joined them to hit.

So my uncle moved out to La my father followed him and uh and so my my dad would make his own uh barbecue pits out of fifty five gallon drums, welled them himself.

And so that's what I grew up in.

And so have this opportunity to uh to do this this barbecue brand with with with Cedric the entertainer, you know, my good friend, and we're both chefs.

We both love to eat, we both loved to cook.

And every time we take the Fellas golf trip, Sat and I are the ones in the kitchen cooking for the group.

Yes, yeah, yeah, that's that's best best best best best friend you could have in your life.

Uh to best business partner, uh and three just an all around great guy.

And so we had the opportunity to, uh you know, start this barbecue lifestyle.

Brand and and we did.

We have you know, we have three seasonings.

We have a midnight smoke, we have something we call the m v P.

And we have a lemon our take on lemon pepper we called the lemon Stepper and uh and we and we have two sauces.

All day and our caroline line, our mustard bade son.

Well you said, can I can I send you both?

You both can get a package of everything.

You have to.

Uh you know, when did you start barbecuing?

I mean when did you start cooking?

You know, man barbecue as a kid.

Yeah, my dad.

So my dad did.

Every weekend.

My dad would he would go fishing down along Bach.

He would come home.

He would barbecue fish, smoke fish, barbecue rings.

I mean he's the bigger as country boy.

That's what I do.

You know, I have a boat.

I catched fish like my face off.

That's my passion.

You know, those were thats how I grew up so young teenager.

Father taught me how to smoke, how to smoke, how to cook with wood charcoal.

Uh, and so it started at an early age.

And I love it.

I love it.

Oh that's so fun.

I want to do a barbecue party.

Can we have a barbecue party?

We have a barbecue budding.

Come on, I'm sure we all between the three of us, we have some of the best backyards.

Barbecue's barbecue party ever?

Don't you have?

Do you have a show about barbieq?

We we started great, said, and I created a show called The Kings of Barbecue basically to bring attention to us starting and building a business.

Got it.

So we were on an a four year while we did that, and we're about to go back into production and put it on YouTube and shoot these things that the air workings of you know, two best friends in Hollywood starting a business.

Yeah, you know.

We we we were able to open a restaurant at the at the Westfield Ciphy City Mall called Ac Barbecue.

That's right up in the food court there.

We opened up in May.

Uh do it pretty well?

Uh?

And just having a great time doing and traveling the world.

Fun.

Well, it's funny.

Because I have a deck.

I created a deck for I wanted to do a sort of a low budget backyard barbecue show in my actual home and so so it's almost like this reality unscript of me cooking, but people come out.

I had it sort of formulated where you get these other chefs coming in, but it's just very sort of off the cuff.

You're in my house and I am not a professional.

So it's definitely about the experience of getting.

There for an album.

Yeah, dude, I love I love it.

There's so much joy in cooking and when people eat your food, and like it's in lives that do that for me, you know, like fishing and there's certain things in your kids.

But when you cook something amazing and your family is eating it and they're like, holy shit, this is unreal.

There's a pride.

There's something that happens, some locksy toes, some dopamine that comes out where you're just like, oh my god.

There's an addiction to it.

You love that fucking feeling.

That's what I love about it.

I love it.

It's crazy.

At the end of at the end of the day, I don't find myself eating anything.

I don't either do I just find myself feeding people and just enjoying.

Yes, I've been enjoying what I was able to prepare for them.

That, yeah, that's my thing.

Because they're like, you want to gonna make it, You're gonna make a play, And I'm like, no, I mean I'll pick a little bit, like you know, yeah, well we got to cook together, dude, looking forward to it.

Let's do it.

Let's play some golf too.

By the way, my kids, my boys became obsessed with golf, which is got back into the game.

So I'm playing all of our kids.

It's like crazy, Hey, Oliver, bring them to the tournament, man, if you always yeah, go over sometimes.

And then I'm working around with the kids.

Now that I know the kids play, bring them to the tournament.

Let's do it.

Wait, wasn't wasn't such in the desert?

He was in the desert.

Yeah, third week of make This would be my uh seventh or eighth year.

Yeah, I gotta I gotta make it this year.

You gotta do it, allie fun all right, it was a great conversation.

Yes, we'll see you, Sam, you got it all right, right.

I love that man.

He's the best, the best, always has been the most wonderful.

Energy I know.

Every time I see him just always brings that incredible.

Energy, killing it.

He's just he's just always doing cool ship and he's so great.

Yeah, Hustler works hard.

All Right, I gotta go.

I have a pitch that I'm gonna be late for now.

I love you.

I know it's fun talking to you.