Hi.

I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

We are a sibling.

Railvalry.

No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your mouth.

Revelry.

That's good.

Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, starting another podcast.

It's Oliver Hudson.

I know you can't see video right now unless this is posted as a clip.

But I'm in my daughter's room.

I've got the stuffed animals behind me.

I've got our door covered with purple pictures.

It's there's a lot going on in here right now.

But this is my life.

I have to move from room to room.

You would think after this many years of doing a podcast that have a dedicated space.

My dedicated space is the children's bedrooms.

Currently, the boys have late days, so they're sleeping in their rooms.

My daughter at a regular day.

So now I'm in her room, sitting at her makeup desk, which if you could see this, it's I'm not going to show you because it's too much.

There's so much stuff going on right now.

She's only twelve.

I don't know maybe I did something wrong.

Anyway, we're here, we're chilling, and it's Christmas time, and I love me some Christmas time.

I did a Christmas movie.

I don't know where it's at on the charts right now, but it was doing very very well.

How to blast, I've coined myself mister Christmas because in a short span of time I had a movie in Netflix movie that was Christmas.

I did a gingerbread baking show that I hosted which was Christmas.

And I was on The Great British Bake Off, the Celebrity edition.

Celebrity.

I guess that's what I am.

You know, the definition of my celebrity might be different from sort of like a Brad Pitt, you know what I mean, but a celeb nonetheless, and it was an amazing experience and I fucking won, all right.

Got a Paul Hollywood handshake in case you haven't seen it.

And so I'm mister Christmas.

That's who I am.

Anyway, we have a cool guest in the waiting room right now.

Empty Motivator is his Instagram handle, and that's how I know him.

He comes across my feet all the time.

His real name is Zachary Darnowski, and he just spreads love and joy and happy and generosity.

You know, his vulnerability, and he's extremely heartfelt.

And it's nice to see because today it's all bad shit.

Every time we turn on the TV, every time or algorithm picks up something that might be a little negative, we just get fed all of this horrible shit.

But Zach is doing it correctly, he's doing it right.

He's raising money for people, he's giving money away, he's helping people's lives.

So let's just bring him on and have a DISCUSSI hey, Oliver, where are you.

I'm in New York City?

How about yourself?

I'm in my daughter's room at my house.

If you can't tell, I've got pink and purple all around me.

I've got stuffed animals.

You know, this is my life.

I've been doing this for four or five years, and I have no dedicated podcast space.

I just hop around for my kids' rooms when they're not in school.

They must be honored.

Their room looks great.

No, it's not.

They're not honored.

They come home and they're like, Dad, like, were you in my room doing your dumb podcast?

I'm like yes, Like why how do you know?

This because because you left your computer here and now the dog came into my room and he ate my track.

I'm like, oh god, I can't win.

What are you doing?

In New York?

We're doing a few videos.

So we did something with Big Brothers, Big Sisters this morning.

They have the Foundation.

There's a big conference here and it's surprising people here in New York with a banking app called Chimes.

So yeah, it's nice here.

So I got to get into this because I've you've come across my feed.

You know, forever, you're in my algorithm, which I think is a good thing, you know what I mean, Which means that you know, there is some there is some positivity and some bright light to my algorithm, although it can get dark at times, you know what I mean.

Yeah, yeah, I know it's crazy.

But how did this all start?

Because you're Canadian.

You grew up in Windsor.

I was just in Vancouver and I'm actually back to Vancouver.

I was in Toronto, did a movie in Toronto.

My parents lived in Canada for years.

So where in Canada did your parents live?

They lived in BC you know, for five years.

My brother played hockey, so they moved up there.

With him.

Yeah, whar he was out there?

Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful.

But I was in Toronto in February.

It was snowy, snowy, snow.

You can get cold there, especially January February the time of year.

So how did you get to where you got?

You know?

I mean I was looking you up and sort of researching you a little bit, and it definitely wasn't the initial career path.

So how did this all happen?

I grew up my whole life.

I knew I wanted to be a doctor, and I finally got accepted into medical school after years and years of working towards that.

And my dream was to become a doctor, but it was also to live in Sydney, Australia.

In Australia, and I got accepted to the University of Sydney Medical School and I started there in January of twenty twenty.

And when you say twenty twenty, everyone thinks the pandemic, and when the pandemic, everyone has an emotional response to that.

And school went online immediately.

When I got there medical school, I tore my ACL and needed surgery for my knee.

A week later that me and my girlfriend of six years.

We broke up and she was like my identity and my happiness and I didn't have any new friends because it was all online, and I was afraid to tell anyone back home how I was feeling because who am I to complain?

And it was just this too much, too all at once thing in my life.

And it was the middle of one night I went for I was living with one of my roommates in medical school, and I knew I was going to like cry or just be in a really really dark place, and I didn't want to like let him know what I was feeling.

So I went for a walk one night and I just started to like sit down and I was crying, just sitting down on the ground, and these two women in their mid to late thirties, they came up to me and they just said, Hey, are you okay?

And I said, obviously I'm fine.

And one heard them to see that I tear, so I was trying to wipe it, and they said, what's going on?

And what they did in that moment, Oliver, changed my life forever.

They just sat there in the we cement and they listened to this stranger from Canada cry and just talk about what was going on in his life.

And I'll never forget that next morning when I woke up and just that relief of off my shoulders and realizing that like talking to a stranger, as weird as it was, made me feel like I was moving out of that dark hole that I was getting myself further and further, and I was really questioning my life at that point, and then I started.

I told my parents back home how I was feeling, and then my med school classmate was like, I said, I want to I don't forget exactly what I said to him, but I just said something along the lines like I want to be like that for somebody else.

So I over a few weeks, I thought, why not blindfold myself it hugged strangers because maybe there's other strangers out there that need a hug or need someone just to listen to.

And then after that, my med school classmates was like, maybe there's people online like and they're stuck in their homes that could connect to that that you're not gonna meet.

Maybe you should make videos.

So that's how the TikTok journey started.

And empty motivator stands for medical doctor motivator because I was just trying to motivate myself down a path.

Yeah, there's way more to it.

But then at that point, wow, the video started.

So wait, going back, you were in Australia, broke up with your girlfriend, which of course can be very difficult, especially if you have wrapped up your entire identity in a person, which essentially is a codependency you know what I mean, which isn't healthy at the end of the day.

So for you, what kind of a place did you get into?

I mean, I know the girl was gone, but when you were having that moment and sort of questioning everything, were you questioning your career path, were you questioning your motivation and life you know?

Or was it just pure heartbreak and sadness.

I mean, if I was twenty eight, I felt super alone.

I was in hundreds of thousands of dollars a debt.

I feel like I wasted money time.

I didn't have a plan to need to fall back on.

I was in with my classmates, who I knew there was some in that class that I would pay anything for them to be my doctor.

Some might pay anything for them not to be my doctor.

I knew I was somewhere in the middle.

So I knew at that point that this wasn't my end all be all, like what's my why am I here on earth?

Like what's my life meaning?

Have?

Like I just felt so alone, lost, confused and not knowing where to start in that conversation.

So it was like paralysis too where I was at.

Yeah, well, it's so interesting because it is so true where a stranger who reaches out and cares and asks the right questions and opens themselves up to you.

Opening up can really be cathartic in the sense that there are no judgments, there are no pressures, you don't know this person, and yeah, exactly.

I mean in a way it's it's therapy, but you've and better because you can just let it all go, and there's something sort of special about that, you know.

And so when you started to make these videos, at what point where you're like, oh shit, wait a minute, this is actually affecting people.

It is blowing up right now, this is my new path.

I mean, like the first time I started making videos, it immediately people were messaging me saying this video say, I don't know how much truely this it saved my life and just stream language like that.

So I knew right from the get go that the videos were impacting people.

But it was the first time, Oliver, that in twenty eight years, I felt purposeful and myself.

So I didn't think that was going to lead to or how long it would lead for where it would go to, but I knew I found something for the first time that was confident, whether you agreed or disagree with me making content that I felt myself.

So that was how I felt confident enough to tell my parents that I'm going to quit medical school and I moved back home and there to make TikTok video.

How did that go?

How do you think it was?

What do you want for your kids more than anything?

Right?

Well, happiness because from health, Yes, for me, right because it's just all us.

Yeah, you have a good parent regarding ah support of fortunate that I did.

My parents have no idea about social media or what I was doing, and they knew how hard I worked or what we sacrificed financially to be able to do that to go to medical school.

So they just saw I wasn't happy and I wasn't healthy, so they let me move back home in my small town in Canada, Windsor Ontario, like you said, And my friend at the time never recorded a video.

He played high school basketball with me, he got a camera, he believed in what I was doing.

He volunteered for two months for free, and then it immediately just it took off.

But if it wasn't for my parents' support, if it wasn't for my friend, if it wasn't for those you know what's crazy is all of those two women that night.

To this day, I have no idea that that effort created that and I haven't been I'm going back to for the first time next month with a mission to find them.

Wouldn't that be amazing if you were able to Yeah, you know, I mean incredible.

Ah, No, you're right.

I mean parents have expectations for their kids.

Some put way more than they should.

You know, for me growing up, you know, we didn't have great expectations put on us.

It was the same thing that I'm trying to pass on to my kids, which is just be happy.

You know, stay healthy.

Sometimes that's uncontrollable, but just be happy and good and be a good human being, you know what I mean.

Walk outside every day and enjoy the air because it's not gonna last very long.

You know what I'm saying, So just enjoy yourself.

Don't put so much stress on yourself, you know, And you're right, I mean, that is the impetus, that's the catalyst for what why you have become so successful and why you were following your life's passion and sort of how you stumbled into it, which is cool too.

Were you like this before?

You seem like you have such a really beautiful, sort of sensitive nature about you.

Was this who you always have been?

That's the coolest thing to me is that, like not trying to hype myself up my hometown.

I've always said, always doing it for the video of the cameras.

But then I have friends or people that I've just aren't even friends with, just knew from like high school or passing by.

I worked with the McDonald's like this salesac's always been and it just it's cool to see that.

I guess I've had that impact.

Obviously completely different in the video world, but yeah, I love talking to strangers.

I love hearing people's stories.

I usually like being on your side of the stick where I get to ask the question.

I can just listen.

But I know that's fun.

Yeah, it is because you get to learn so much, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you and I are not dissimilar in that I'm not a very surface person.

I'm not a small talk person because the truth is, that's all the good stuff is, you know what I mean.

It's when you get specific and you're really asking the questions and not just sort of hey, how are you?

How is your day?

You know, it's like, well, what else.

I've explained this story probably at least one hundred times to like the six year relationship, this this, You're the first person asked me about the identity and happiness thing or make a comment on that person.

So, yeah, you do pay attention to the details.

Really well, oh yeah.

I have a lot to still learn in relationships.

Oh dude, I don't think we ever ever stop learning, ever stop evolving.

You know.

That's the beauty of self analysis is if you really love it, which I do, it can be painful as shit, but it's also you know, it just expands your mind and expands your character.

It will never end.

And I'm constantly on a search one way or another.

You know, what's it?

Why do I feel this way?

Or how do I remedy this or how do I be better here?

Or not only that, but also just giving yourself grace and forgiveness and having compassion for yourself when you do go off the rails.

I think we hold ourselves sometimes so rigidly to you know what is right, that once we slip a little bit, it's like you hit yourself over the head, when really it's like, no, dude, we're human beings.

Man like, we fail, we make mistakes.

We can wallow in the darkness for a while.

That's okay, you know what I mean.

I don't think that's a bad thing as long as you know how to get out and there's a ladder, you know what I'm saying.

Absolutely Yeah.

So when you started to realize that this was a business, did you wrestle it all with sort of you know, your philanthropy essentially your emotional philanthropy and commerce and sort of how those things match up.

It's been a really weird journey.

So like a few months into making videos.

We mean, my videographer I said that volunteered.

At the time, we were sitting at a pizza shop having lunch and I got this email from YouTube saying you just got paid six hundred and forty six dollars and I go to his name's Patrick Patrick.

We just got paid six hundred and forty six.

That was the best amount of money I've ever received because I was like, we're helping people, but we can still pay our bills.

By doing this, I can to be here.

So I had no idea that this could be like a business or a revenue stream, Like I had such delusion when I did this, like if this didn't work, I don't know where i'd be today.

To be honest with you, I'll be working somewhere.

I don't know.

I don't know what i'd be doing in Windsor.

But yeah, it's it was really interesting to see that it's a space where you can obviously self fund and create, but we've created vertical.

So we have a nonprofit called Kindness is Cool.

So one hundred percent of the donations go in and then one hundred percent go directly to the people that we impact.

So I've learned that people not always want to help charities, but people always want to help and support people.

That never seems to go out of style in terms of people connecting with stories right on an individual basis.

So there's that aspect there's the nonprofit, then there's obviously like the streams from like the platforms, and then brands that have also sponsored that allow us to give it at a greater.

Scale of course, like like what you're doing with the chime.

Yeah, and we wouldn't be able to do otherwise.

So it's been really awesome, whether it's celebrities or brands that have sponsored and allowed us to create such life changing things.

But the biggest videos are always the ones where we crowd fund for individuals or families and one hundred thousand people donate five dollars and we're able to give away half a million dollars to a family.

Just yeah, life changing opportunities.

So how do you how do you decide on your subjects?

I mean, like they decide on me, right, it's just like you talking to me, just like it's an energy thing.

I'd say about eighty percent of the time, it's just random.

There's no vetting process.

It's just going on talking to strangers.

So sometimes I'll be out there for like ten twenty minutes, sometimes six seven hours until like it's just like the right conversation, the right opportunity, they're being kind and then you get to snowball all the yeah, oh and yeah, I get to do that every day.

So when you raise money for people, though, how do you sort of vet them or how do you, yeah, sort of choose them.

I mean you you sort of in a way catch feelings for some of these people.

So I don't go in there thinking we're going to crowdfund for them.

So if there's ever like an opportunity, say we give you all of our like super Bowl tickets, but I find out that you're struggling to pay your rent bill or you about to get evicted, if there's more to the story from a financial standpoint, we'll always crowdfund for the individual or family.

I don't go in there assuming a crowd fund, even like my mom, so I show my mom all my videos before I post them'll be like Zach, you've done too many crowdfunds.

People are going to stop donating.

There's never been a time, Oliver, where we haven't reached our crowdfunding goals minimum at least twenty thousand dollars up until, like I said, over half a million dollars.

So they find that and then it's what we do with the money.

So at first it would just be all right, here's seven thousand the twenty thousand dollars.

But we've learned that over time.

Obviously that money doesn't solve money problems.

No, yeah, sometimes it creates more.

So now we have financial advisors, we set money aside, we create beneficiaries money to go directly ty their houses, cars, education funds.

And we we've some people full time jobs because I'll I hire good people, right, yeah, you want to hire a good person.

So we're able to essentially almost like vet that through a video and that people to this day that I know, I go back and they're like, this is our best worker.

We have like a year later in my own at other cities that we've done this.

So, yeah, that's amazing now that I think that's so smart, you know, because again, you give someone a half a million dollars in a bag, it's like, ah, wait a minute.

I mean, I don't care how good of a human being you are.

You get that urge, you be like, I'm gonna go buy some shit I'm not gonna buy right, I'm gonna be right, I'm gonna go buy something that I shouldn't buy right now, you know, And then that can snowball into a bad but.

In the video it looks like we're giving a half a million dollars, so you get you evoke that like emotional response.

So Yesmira, which we can crowd fund more, which that we can obviously create a longer term impact for them.

And do you have as you've established and created relationships along the way and with higher powered people, are you able to sort of source super Bowl tickets and all of these incredible experiences.

It's been like any layer way inbound outbound.

The answer is yes.

The really cool example of like an inbound outbound relationship is we did a video where we gave a car away with Chris Brown at one of his shows.

But that only came to existence because his twelve year old daughter, Royalty, watches all my videos and she wanted to do something kind like me in the videos.

Chris heard that, and because of that, Chris wanted to do the video.

He never does that kind of stuff because he's inspired by his daughter that wanted to show her that.

So it's cool to see the ripple that it creates inbound outbound in that family tree or whatnot too.

That's amazing.

It's soageous, like you were saying, well it is, how can be so negative but positive?

Sure, it takes a little more work to get that ball moving I guess down the hill, but I think it's a bigger ball that's more way, more powerful.

Yeah, no, you're correct, you know.

And I just because sometimes people, I'm sure you've gotten hate.

Everyone gets a little hate, like, oh, you're just making that money and you know you're exploiting people's feelings for a dollar or whatever.

The hell.

I'm sure you hear, but that's bullshit in my opinion, because we are we can make money and help human beings.

I mean, there are the perfects of every job.

Of course, of course, dude, Yeah, you should get yours while you give it as well.

There's absolutely no doubt about that.

But I do my absolute best, and my manager or anyone can attest Like any situation where I feel like there's more to do, we always do the most, even if that's a detriment to me, because I don't really care.

It's my time.

I really feel honored and responsible to have a following a fifty million people that have the power to change a person's like, right, you know what I mean?

Are you global?

Have you gone across a man, you've gone across the ocean at all.

We're going to London actually in a few weeks with crime speaking cons.

We're gonna do a bog and Paul and KSI, but not a lot global.

Hopefully next year we can expand more globally.

I'm really excited to hopefully do this in other countries and have people like myself that speak of the languages be able to do it in their countries, because obviously I'll speak any other languages.

You can create a whole you can you could create a whole network.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

You could under your banner, under you.

You know, you can create a whole global network of people like you.

And you know, I'll give you another example of a really cool story that how I knew that I was doing the right thing.

I was just starting to make videos.

I was in my hometown.

We brought one hundred kids to like to local water park, and his dad and these three daughters I think they were ten, eight and six at the time, came up to me and they said, we watch your videos.

Can we take a photo?

Sure?

So they're about to walk away, and the six year old tap my elbow, and she came up to me and she's like, I just want to let you know that my dad shows us your videos every night before bed.

And last week we were at the grocery store and there looked like a guy that he was hungry.

So when I went home that night, I took my biggie bank and I cracked open my piggy bank because I want to do what the guy in the video does.

Oh my god, wow.

And that was when I felt like my videos were doing something that I'll never see that had a purpose.

It was an energy transfer that the ripple effect, right, that a one to one will never create.

A You talk about vulnerability, you know, relatability, Yeah, which is so true.

I've been a big proponent of being vulnerable.

It's something I've struggled with in certain aspects of my life.

There are certain parts of me that are extremely vulnerable.

I'm very sense, I'm not afraid to cry, but there are certain you know, there are certain people in my life for certain hang ups where vulnerability is hard for me.

And that's just based on psychology.

I mean, we can go way back into childhood and life, right, but when you're able to be unafraid Essentially, that's what vulnerability is.

You're just unafraid to be yourself and unafraid to express your feelings.

It opens up so much.

And you're right, I've never thought of it that way.

It equals relatability because everyone is vulnerable, whether they're masking it, pushing it down or not.

Vulnerability exists within all of us.

Yeah, when we are able to be vulnerable, you are.

You can sort of you got the key essentially to those who want vulnerability but who are afraid to.

You never know who needs that key for you to you and lock that.

You never know who that person is.

Man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I dig that.

I dig how it sort of equals relatability.

You know, it's to all of them.

If you go back to my old hugging videos, I haven't posted them in a while.

I always say, hey, how's it going or whatever I'll say when they come in a hug, And the first thing people always say before they say, what's going on, I'm good?

M right?

Mask, mask, they're not right, they're coming in for a hug, but like I'm good, you're not good.

It gets like mortial responses to I guess, shy or hide away or I guess be normal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, how's been how's the celebrity aspect been for you?

Meaning, like you get people know who you are now, you get recognized, you sign autographs.

No, I get recognized, but like I don't want to be recognized.

I want to make videos and disguise.

Right, I'm a guy that makes videos that makes people happy.

But like it's really cool.

The coolest part to me is those like six year old girl stories like that one I gave you with the piggy bang.

That's the celebritiness of it to me.

I just yeah, I don't.

Yeah, that's in a small town, so I'm not usually in La on a crazy red carpets or yeah.

Yeah.

But when celebrities want to get involved and it's able to like their fan base is being like exposed to like this type of content in a new light, it's just really cool to see.

Yeah.

And so as far as growth goes, you know, we're always expanding and thinking about how, okay, how do we keep this going?

Like how do we how do we how do we do how do we just make this thing as big as it can be?

What what plans do you have sort of for the future?

For that.

Yeah, so right now it's one scaling the giving.

So we're at a point now where we're giving away like cars, homes, Like it's at that point where it's I don't know where else you go in terms of I guess it would be like infrastructures, whether.

It's so, but how do you do that?

Like, how how do you give away a home?

Explain how that might work?

Sure, mostly it's from the crowdfunding at this point.

So those ones that were able to like crowdfund a couple hundred thousand dollars for them, whether it's it's paying for the home or if it's a smaller crowdfund, then we're able to get a lease for like three years or fully furnished home for them to get them back on their feet.

And this is all coming from crowdsourcing, meaning these are all just people who are donating.

Donating their coffee money to Yeah, and it only works I think.

Then you donate five bucks and then in forty eight hours you see that Greg's got a home, or you're able to see and feel in real time where your money's going to.

And that transparency is everything, right because it's as quick as you can build it, you can come down one hundred times faster, so showing where it's going.

I think one of the aspects that you said was expanding it to other countries, whether it's other people doing what I'm doing and then traveling more.

I'm going to get into the streaming space next year and open to it being a TV show as long as it doesn't feel two TV and it still feels like raw and real.

Yeah, no, that's great.

Yeah, and see where it goes.

Yeah, I love your attitude.

It's just kind of like, fuck it.

I don't know, like this thing.

This thing happened because I was upset and my girl left me and I'm crying on a bench in Australia and it's like, oh, well, the rest is gravy.

It's just kind of like.

As disorganized as that thought process may sound, it's the first time in like for four years, this growth has been like this, and I've never worked something I guess so effortlessly but hard at the same time where it's work.

So I know that I'm very self aware and pivoted as as need be and continue to serve others in the right door should open.

Did you have to assemble a team once this thing got big and you're like, oh, oh wait a minute, I need people.

I need a.

Really great team.

So I've got a really good team now for about a year, but it's a small team.

I'm a manager, a videographer, and an editor and on the ground and then that's it.

But for the most time, it was just me and my old videographer, the one that I started with.

He was super awestome too, but he's his dream was to open like a studio where he does like portrait photography.

He has two girls, and he obviously can't travel as much as I am.

Yeah, so he just set up that this year and now he's doing that full time.

So both and we're great.

Where are you at with Do you have a girlfriend now or.

What's Yeah, we've been together for three years.

She's okay, good, Yeah, man, I'm not still this lonely single man.

Sophia.

And funny enough, I met her three days into making videos in my hometown and I actually caught it on cameras, not on my videos, our first interaction video when she first came up on our twenty second interaction.

So that's amazing.

Say they have the first person they met someone on four K.

Well, if this one, if this one is the one forever and ever, and you know you're sixty years in what a cool video.

Yeah, you know, very very grateful for that.

That's great, dude.

And she obviously is extremely supportive in what you do.

I assume, right, And she's okay with you being gone, and.

He's the backbone, and she's able to travel with me sometimes.

She also works as a dental hygienist.

But she wants to be able to step away next year and come more because these moments are incredible.

But I want her They don't mean they don't mean the same unless you with the people that you love.

So I want her to be part of those moments more with me.

Yeah, that's amazing.

And what about bloopers, because there has to be There has to be a crazy blooper real.

I don't know if you ever put one out, but if you ever thought about it, Yeah, every day, I'm sure you get all kinds of crazy stuff where it's people are complete dicks.

Number one.

Of course, we live in society where we've got all kinds of different people, right, so there has to be a ton of bloopers.

Do you have any good ones.

Yeah, I got, I got.

I'm out there all day.

Man, I'm going to like today we're filming in the Bronx.

You don't get a get a couple?

Uh well liners, Yeah, I don't.

I deliberately don't post that because then even if I post that for ten seconds, I'm like, yeah, in a video, people would just hyper fixate on that.

Yeah, but yeah, it would it would be I have it all.

It's in folders.

Maybe I'll release into the world.

But what is I mean?

Is it just sometimes people just get angry or sometimes people are laughing, or is it all?

Is it run the gambit of sort of what how people react to you that is not positively?

Yeah, I think I think it's all.

It's yeah, it's humanly above Yeah, humans going through stuff, and I'm a it could be an emotional punching back because I'm like starting a conversation.

Yeah yeah.

Do have you ever felt in danger.

When I have like a lot of money on me in like a rougher neighborhood.

But now we either we have fake money in terms of it's a larger amount of money, or there's a security guard like someone that keeps me safe in terms of in the moment, So I'm never my life's not in dangered.

Oh good, good God.

When I was blindfolded for a year, the that's ever happened to me is this.

I watched the back.

It was like a fourteen year old girl.

She had this white skittle.

This is a gum, piece of gum.

She just threw it at me.

In one year, no one's ever punched me.

Or wow, there's a skittle and I'm blindfold that I'm as vulnerable as security guard at the time.

Yeah, yeah, I was very surprised at that because that was the one when I felt unsafe the most.

Yeah, all right, before we get out of here, what are your hang ups?

You know what I mean?

Like, you are offering this amazing experience to the world for anyone who wants to take it, essentially right.

But if someone was if I was blindfolded, if I were you and you had to and you came up to me and I started to question you, or or I asked you to sort of let go and be vulnerable and tell me what you know you'd like to be better in your life?

What would that.

Be Making more time for the people in my life that matter?

My family, my brother, my parents, my partner.

It's been a whirl in the last four years.

But I feel like it's been really hard for me to find this balance of making myself proud and helping people while also still not missing moments of life.

I feel like I missed.

I miss a lot of moments, and I've been working on in that consciously looks year.

That's that one, and then also feeling imposter syndrome.

Yeah, that's real.

I enter in terms of like these spaces.

I just I'm a guy that makes videos.

I don't think I have any other so I just it's not like this ego with it and it just it's cool to see that it provides value, it makes people feel good.

But where does that imposter syndrome take you?

Meaning like people don't people are gonna find me out or they think that I'm I'm not really what I but people think I am.

You know, where does that come from?

Do you think I.

Don't think people are gonna think who I am because I think I'm pretty like just real, But I'm not sure.

I don't know, you know, it's just and I guess.

Maybe because imposter syndrome, it's kind of like, well, not good enough because actors have that too, creatives in general.

You're a creative.

It's just kind of you know, you go do these all these gigs and you're getting work and it's all happening in your own series, and you're like, oh shit, they're gonna find me out.

They're gonna discover that I'm not that good or you know, it's like it's this imposter syndrome, like everyone thinks I'm doing well, but like when are they gonna know?

When are they gonna find out that I'm not?

You know what I mean?

It's that insecurity essentially.

It is no definitely I felt insecure and feeling like I'm not good enough or the person that is equivalent to the person in the room that maybe inspires me or I feel in my heart that they are, but maybe they're feeling amposter syndrome.

M hmm.

It's just like this and that's that vulnerability relatability thing, right m hmm.

Allowed, and you're not gonna feel it.

But that one I haven't figured out a solution to as much as the other one.

Well, whatever, we're young, you're young.

I'm not young.

You're young man pushing fifty man away.

Well, dude, this has been amazing.

Thank you for talking to me.

This has been very cool.

And then if you ever get to la me up, I'd love to be a part of this somehow, you know.

I appreciate that.

So down with all this stuff, I really am.

It's it's we need, it's necessary, especially right now how divided everybody is, and the vitriol and everything that comes up on your feet is kind of like, oh oh God, and you get sucked down this rabbit hole, and it's so nice to sort of just watch happiness and.

Positivity humans being humans, right.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Matter what we look like or who we are.

So yeah, thank you, thank you for your time.

Yeah, I appreciate it.

Brother, Get out there and do it.

Man, I can't wait to keep watching your vis.

Also, one last thing, if anyone's listening in the next twenty four hours, I challenge you to one random act of kindness.

Yes, I love you, one random I'm doing it.

I do it all the time.

Man, let's go, baby, appreciate yes, Zach, I appreciate you, man.

Love bye, guys.

Peace.

Buddy.

What a great guy, My god, he's so positive and full of like cinnamon sugar.

You know what I mean.

I feel like if you cut open his cheeks, it's just like cinnamon, sugar and just candy and joy is gonna pour out of him.

What a good dude.

And it's so genuine, you know, it's so genuine, especially when you start from a place like he started, where he had an entire life ahead of him, kind of planned, and then you know, he gets rocked and in one moment, shit can shift and change the whole trajectory.

I guess the lesson there is, you know, don't be so rigid in what you think you are, you know, I mean, or where you think you should be, or what you perceive that you want, because sometimes that can surprise you and change.

Sitting on a bench in Australia to women just approach him boom.

His life takes a completely different path.

And not only is he doing what he wants to do and helping people, he's making a shit ton of money and he can't beat that.

And he's genuine, as I said, like you can tell he does it because he does care.

You know, there's no Charlatan about him in any way.

It's not like I'm gonna take all this money and you know, he's very, very authentic anyway, all right, I am leaving now to do a full body scan, so within the next four hours we'll know.

We'll know if the Hudson Express is still on the tracks or if he's derailed.

All right, I'm leaving.

Bye,