Hi.

I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

We are a sibling.

Railvalry No, no, sibling.

Don't do that with your mouth, sib revely.

That's good.

Ali Rhudson, Al Rudson here, that is my name.

Last time I checked.

I just drove back from Colorado, twelve and a half hour drive, and now I'm here sitting in front of you, speaking into a microphone.

I've done this drive a million times.

I do it four times a year, and it's really an amazing time.

People would say, ooh, I twelve hours straight?

What are you doing?

Is it crazy?

Is it's amazing because I get to sit and listen to podcasts, to books on tape, and then I turn everything off and I just hear the tires against the pavement, And I think.

I think a lot of people will get into their cars and feel like they have to do something.

They have to get on the phone, they have to turn the radio on, they have to listen to something, But really, when there's no one else in that car, it is a time.

The only time I think in your day where you can truly be alone with your thoughts.

So I would suggest to those who are going long distancece and even not turn everything off and just sit with your thoughts and see what happens and let your mind wander.

Because we live in a society now where our minds are no longer able to wander.

We're so inundated with tech and the next thing, so we rarely have those moments.

The car is the time to have those moments, and your brain just moves into different spectrums, into different directions that you normally would not allow it to go, and it can be pretty cathartic and amazing.

And that's what I did five hours, just nothing, raw, dogging my own brain.

Yes, anyway, I'm here.

Summer is over, Not really, but summer is pretty much done.

Back from vacation.

School's about to start.

But I won't get into that because we have a waiting room.

If you didn't know.

And Brooks and Sarah Jane Nader the Nator, two of the four Nator sisters, are waiting in the waiting room.

They've got a new show coming out, Love Thy Nator.

Very excited to talk to them.

I have a feeling it's going to go well, off the rails, maybe a little unhinged.

I think we're gonna get a idea of who these girls are, so let's bring them in.

How are you guys?

Really?

I'm good?

Where are you you in?

La?

In La La Hill?

Billy?

Is that that?

How long ago did you guys actually move to La?

So we actually live in New York?

Oh you do?

Holy shit?

She wants to move to La But I don't know.

I'm not sold yet.

No why because bad?

I don't know.

I mean, our view is like insane right now.

So it's this is like, well, I don't know.

Where are you originally from.

We're from Lousiana.

Baton Rouge, Baton Rouge.

Okay, give me just give me a sense of the childhood story growing up.

Yeah, you know how how you got to where you got to?

How we went from Baton Rouge to Love Thy Nator.

I mean it was a.

Journey, it was basically, I mean, the short version is all my sister's copyed me.

You know, you're a sibling, you get it.

And I moved to New York.

Dropped out of college to pursue modeling, and they just saw how much fun I was having, and each girl, one by one soon followed, and then we just fell in love with New York and you know, planted our roots there and now we just can't get enough of it.

That's what everyone literally, Brooks, are you the oldest, she's.

The oldest, I'm the oldest.

No.

I think it was a trickle effect.

So there's four of us, and I was in high school and I went to New York for the first time to visit Brooks and was like living in Baton Rouge.

Not too much to do.

And so when I came to New York and saw her lifestyle, I was like, oh my god, I want this.

I don't want to go to an SEC school and sick of football.

I just want to be in And so I moved when I was eighteen and went to Fordham in New York.

And then the other two girls did the whole college sorority thing.

They went to UGA, and then by that time we were having so much one in New York that they were like omo.

You know how it is, siblings get fomo and it's like, why am I not there?

Yeah, so what are the what's the age difference here from the youngest to the oldest.

You don't have to say your age if you don't want to.

So she's three eight years old.

That's so not cool.

Okay, So Brooks is thirty three?

No, oh my god, that's my nin I'm okay.

So Brooks is thirty three, and then, uh.

I'm twenty three.

I'll get my passport.

We're five years apart.

Its four girls within five years, so my mom really thanks.

Ranked them out.

Wow, she had us all by I.

Think the age of twenty four or something like twenty five or six.

Yeah, she had four cranked out.

And so what was that like growing up as far as siblings go?

You know?

Was there a hierarchy?

Were there people who were more in love than others?

Did that shift?

Did that change?

I think it was always shifting, Like we were.

Hierarchy was always me on top of she was just a big bully and she was walking in dog cages.

Are you the eldest, Oliver?

I am, okay, so you get it.

I do.

Katie and I did not have a great relationship to begin with, though.

And she she worked together.

I love that.

I know.

Well, things obviously have shifted, you know, but she all she wanted was for me to love her, you know what I mean, And I couldn't.

I just I was a young boy.

We were a product of divorce.

I was dealing with my own weird shit as like an introverted kid because my dad wasn't around.

And that's all she wanted, but I couldn't give it to her.

But that's that changed, you know, as you get older, shit changes, you mature and maybe you come together.

And of course now we're best friends.

Right yeah, I think the best part about it.

And also it's different.

I feel like the relationship between like brother and sister versus all sisters, you know, Like I don't know what our older brother, if we had one, would he'd probably hate us, like attention horrors, like I can't hate you throwing himself off this side of this?

Is it contentious with all four of you?

I mean, did it get nasty?

Ever?

I think we were always like creepily close, like best friends.

Well you have to go into the background.

Like we grew up in like extremely conservative household.

We had like a tiny house, two girls to a room, so we were always on top of each other, you know, because of how we grew up.

You know, for the first like period of my life.

My dad worked for a nonprofit.

He made like he was just telling us, like he made eighteen thousand dollars a year, you know, until I was like ten years old, and you know, he had four daughters, and so we all we really just had each other to entertain one another, which I think bonded us.

But then also being like church girls and you know, being so enthralled by like you know, going into like the checkout line at the grocery store and seeing like tabloids and being like this seems so cool because we had such a you know, you know, different upbringing.

I feel like we always aspired to like live in la or live in New York, and so I think we all shared the same goals and we bonded from that.

But in terms of like how we fight, I mean, we are the people say we ride each other other of like an Italian mobster family, because we will others, weave out, drag us down the thing, blood is drawn, and then five minutes later it's all we're like scratching each other's back and like you know, gossiping.

So we're just kind of like, dude.

It's kind of the best way to go because you don't hide anything, you know what I mean, Like, it's all right out in front of you.

You're not going to hold any kind of resentment because you have an ill will to one of your sisters.

It's like, hey, you know what, I fucking hate you right now.

Yeh.

It's so much better than these families that like, even like my ex husband, like his family, they were so priven, proper, and if someone was mad at someone was in the family, it'd be like they didn't talk for three weeks and then it was just awkward when they saw each other.

We're like, we never go in a bitch like yeah, me off, Yeah, that's yeah.

Yeah.

And growing up in a conservative family, I mean, obviously you didn't adhere to much of those values or do you?

Did you?

How did that work out for you?

And how did your parents sort of deal with three girls or four girls who were just kind of like all right, cool, we love you, but maybe this isn't how we want to go.

Yeah.

I think like I growing up was like kind of conformist, Like I didn't really speak out of things that I didn't believe in or like wanted to do.

And then moving to New York really like freed me.

I think Brooks was always a wild child, rule breaker, like always crying.

So I've never had privileges.

She was like just always pushing the envelope and challenging my parents, I think, And they were also the hardest on her because she's the oldest, probably, But yeah, I think it was different for each of us.

But once we moved to New York, it was really like free for all.

Like Brooks wasn't allowed to wear bikinis her whole life, and then moved to New York and got on Sports Illustrated and it's like on the cover and like.

But that annoyed me about Towards Illustrated was I was like, I'm gonna show my parents like I'm gonna wear a two piece bikini whatever.

And then my words Ultrade cover, I was in a one piece and I was like, come on, like whatever exnon does still followed our rules.

You're in a one piece?

Oh my god, that is funny.

But did your parents did your parents?

Because you know, I have friends who grew up in very sort of Christian household who had real rebellion and it didn't go so well, you know what I mean, because the values that their parents were trying to instill upon them, were so ingrained that they had no room to let their children sort of breathe and experience their own shit.

Yeah, your parents understanding like, hey, this is what we these are our values, these are this is what we grew up on.

We try to instill this into our children.

But they are who they are.

They're individuals, and we're gonna love them no matter what, you know, or was there some contention where it's like, no, you need to be this.

I think that.

They've conformed as we've like entered this new era of being in the industry and whatever, because they do just want us to be happy.

But I think when we were growing up, especially for me because I was the oldest, you know how it is, you get a runt of all the rules and things, and then the youngest does whatever the fuck they want.

So for me, it was like a very much so like we will beat you into submission to like follow our fucking rules, and like you're not gonna not follow them, you know what I mean?

So like I would like work my ass soft and then you know, make the dance team, and like I was so thrilled about that.

And then there's one party night on dancing where you go tepeeing, you know, the football player's house.

I was so excited about that.

I worked my ass off to be on the dance team and I was one minute late to the breakfast table at seven am and they go, nope, you're not doing rolling nights, and like parents were calling my my parents and being like, she worked so hard.

She didn't make it the first year.

She was devastated sophomore or she made it and this is the one night and you guys are really going to take it from her, and they're like, that's our role.

Sorry, And you know, they found out I had sex.

My door was broken down.

You know I didn't have a door.

Yeah.

I was like, I think they were like so strict when we were growing up because they just wanted us to like do exactly what they said.

And then I feel like, I think they're so young, like they were raising us and they were like the.

Guys we date are their age, and I'm like, my dad's like, don't let them be older than me.

I'm like they're gonna get that's the room, Like you're too young for that to be the rule.

But I think like they are growing up with us, so like, as we've moved to New York and like experienced this whole new life, they're sort of like experiencing life for the first time too, because they didn't have their twenties they were like and they also didn't up.

Oh that's that's an interesting take, actually, I mean they are sort of living vicariously through you guys, exactly.

Yeah, and they're like, even when they come here to La, we have this aw some heuse we printed, like it's so cute to see there's this TikTok to and it's like, yeah, don't forget it's your parents' first time living too.

And he's just videoing every little thing, all the love that nator billboards like he hasn't you know.

They haven't traveled, like they left the country for the first time with us, like you know, several years ago.

So they're experiencing life for the first time.

And it's fun to see them like get to live life with us and have an appreciation for it because they didn't grow up doing any of that.

It's interesting too because it probably I don't know if they've talked to you about it or not, but it's shifted their perspective how could it not?

Meaning we laid down all these rules for our girls, We had these expectations for who they were supposed to be based on who we were.

That's not how it works.

You know what I'm saying.

I have three kids, it's you know, yeah, so of course you're trying to be the best father.

You're trying to instill what you want to instill in them.

But I was fucking wild, you know I was.

I was nutty.

It's still I'm almost fifty, I still am.

But you know, my kids when they start to do these things and experiment, I've experienced them.

So it would be hypocrite, It would be hypocritical for me to, you know, to get on them.

Now.

I could still wisdom and say, look I went through this, so here watch out for these pitfalls.

But for your parents, it's interesting because they have to have shifted and changed after sort of being able to experience you guys and your successes and see how great you are.

Right Like, they didn't grow up like to your point of view saying like you did all the wild, crazy things parting, So now you're like, get it with your kids and how them My parents did not like alcohol was not in our household growing we didn't smoke, they didn't have alcohol.

Their wedding, they had a huge iManage ceremony, like they started drinking like when we started literally.

Like you know, a forty years old to them.

I like it, you know, like now, like my dad will get like wasted off of like two weeks.

It's like adorable.

He's like a college kid, and he also looks like one.

So we yeah, we're like, looks like, who's this guy?

And I'm like, my fucking dad, okay.

All like.

You, how old are your parents?

Are you fucking kidding me?

That's when I'm my dad on like camera and stuff, like people, it looks like we're dating.

Actually I can throw them into the pod.

I can tell them, yeah, our parents are all here, our whole family's here.

That is so funny.

I can't even I can't believe.

It's like basically my age.

I'm forty eight, forty nine September.

But that's crazy.

Isn't that crazy?

Wow?

That's fun though, Yeah, it is, that's fun.

You know.

It's like your parents are almost it's like they're you're there.

They're fifty years old, but they're on your level essentially they're experiencing this new thing.

We're like, oh right, yeah.

They were raised even like stricter than us, so like everything was off to us.

They were terrified for our grandparents to say this show.

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And how did they deal with all of this?

You know what I'm saying, This is a life that they had never even expected to see, let alone be in on TV.

Honestly, they're so supportive, like they were all like my grandma fixed the house up for weeks and it was like in the garden her style, and she like boiled the crawfish.

All my uncles came boiled the crawfish.

They were like all hands on.

Deck, and they were so funny because like they don't understand how this TV business works, like my grandparents and their big hosts.

So she's like to all the camera people you know, are supposed to like it's the third wall, like we're not supposed to pretend it that they're or whatever.

We became very close with the crew, but like when we're working, like we're not, so my grandparents.

Like put that camera down, like how'd you collish and.

Like yelling at them and they're like, YEA have to work and she's like, oh no, you've been working all day and they're like hot twelve hours are almost all up, Like they just don't get it, and they're so they're so hospital a little excited.

Like my mom, for instance, we have this house in LA that we're renting, and you know, we have this party, and my mom rocks in with a backpack.

YETI cooler with her.

Frozen bumbo like on ice like that she frows cana with and she's like, I gotta get this in the freezer.

Like we had all these people over and we're like, okay, the dad.

Dad, Oh, dad, me.

I gotta meet dad.

All right, I meet over.

He has this good podcast.

Are you doing man?

Hey dad?

How are you man?

I'm great?

Are you man?

Look at you?

Look at this?

Look at this handsome handsome man.

Yeah, I appreciate I like this call a handsome man.

That's crazy.

I mean we were talking to your girls.

You were a young man when you had these girls.

You and I are basically the same age.

I have three kids, but I have seventeen, fifteen and twelve.

Oh you're actually a young young dad too.

I was thirty.

I was twenty nine.

Yeah that is yeah.

What are your boy girl?

What do you have two boys in a little girl.

Okay, wilder body in rio.

I love names.

Yes, got the girl and man the girl.

Is we we Yeah, it was a pursuit, I'll tell you it was crazy.

We had the two boys.

We decided to go for the third girl with the third kid, hoping it was a girl, and we got lucky.

I love that girl.

God, the only girl he got.

Man, a man with out daughters lives half a life, Yeah, the whole life.

Let me ask you a question, though, were you trying to have a boy?

You know?

Once we had a couple of girls, and then we loved the idea of them being close in age and having sisters with each other, and so by the time this little thing came along, we were thrilled that it was another girl.

Soul not be happier.

Absolutely makes it simpler too.

It didn't have to have a boy to clutter up, you know.

It was no I know, I know you had boy names already picked up he did.

Yeah, we probably my name is a boy name books, right, So they actually never found out that ginger with all four of us, they just had them right.

Oh yeah I did that.

We did that as well.

Yeah, it's the last great secret.

It's the last great secret.

I think that's you guys are gonna be best friend.

No, we should.

Everyone should be surprised.

I mean, how often do you get to be surprised with something like that?

Never?

Never that you didn't find out?

I love that?

Yeah, No, how do you?

How are you?

How did you deal with your girls sort of not bucking who you guys are, necessarily your sort of conservative nature, but being themselves, letting them sort of expand and be who they are.

I mean, was that tough for you?

Well?

I mean certain certain times are tough whenever they make decisions that you know then then are painful, or they have consequences or whatever.

You hate to see your kid have to deal with that.

But the goal was all ways independence.

We want them to be independent, make their own decisions, live their own life, and family is the hill we die on.

Doesn't matter what choice you make, it all comes down to the family.

We love our family, our girls no matter what, and that will always be the case.

So when I got divorced, Yeah, that was the worst for them.

Husband, he was like, I have to say goodbye.

I like him, I still like him, I wish him the best.

But you guys were on a different path and that's fine.

So that was that was.

The we did roll with the punches, Oliver.

I told Oliver that I got the brunch of it.

Oliver's also the eldest sibling.

And punishment and like the just you guys really being hard on me because I was okay.

We were hardest on Brooksy though.

Well, you know, you're a young parent and you're learning how to be a parent, so you're going to err on the side of strict and you know, hey, you got.

To toe the the time this one came along and was lesbian and everything, they were.

Barely barely aware that she was in the house.

So was very independent early on and very responsible.

At least we thought she was.

She was responsible of the.

Responsible of course.

Well, as a parent, it's hard because you never want your children to be in pain or hurting in any way, and you want to do everything that you can to sort of wrap your arms around them and take it away.

At the same time, they need to go through what they need to go through, callous to build character, to know that they can get through that ship, you know.

Absolutely true.

No other way to learn those lessons and mature, No, I know, Oliver and.

Broke this and how is it being on camera?

He was a star?

You loved it?

It was Yeah, it was a little awkward.

You know, reality TV.

It's a little awkward because you you're there, you're having dinner or whatever.

You don't want it to be boring, and so you know.

Are you boring?

Dad?

No, I'm saying me.

I'm saying me.

And so I'm hilarious.

Yes, so many one miners.

And also, by the way, I'm not fully prepared, but I've started to get them in la the past day we've been out all the delf commentary, which I told you what that means.

Yeah, but he did.

Oh there he goes ya.

Obviously that's like a significople are saying about you, and it's.

Well, he is al kidding me.

Look at him.

Okay, God, I'm not.

He's a that's a handsome man right there.

It's adorable.

Sur Jane did say the other day, Sorry, Dad, you might want to leave this one.

But we do have.

Our taste is around fifties.

You're the only single sisters and we're like older and sometimes you like a personality more than a look on a guy.

And thing goes when we're into visa.

She goes, we needed a new rule.

We can't buck anyone that's uglier than dad.

I was like, that's not possible.

He looks like like Superman.

You know his face, he's got the he's got the wave.

You know, he's state.

We need to get him a hair deal.

His hair is like, he's got amazing hair.

Oliver.

I was just gonna say, you have a lot of hair, I can tell you, damn all right, and holding out on us with that A.

Lot, a lot of hair.

Well, your dad is fucking awesome.

I love that.

Man said.

We've got all the Beverly Hillbillies trickling out of the house right now.

So are you renting a house in l A for how long?

I mean just for a couple of weeks, like you are.

We come out here.

We're doing all of our fun promo and we love La, you know we we just now recently started to get to spend time here and.

I love it.

What part of l are you in?

We're in Truesdale Estates, Beverly address.

In Bedhills.

So when you were in New York City and you were modeling, did you go on obviously casting for Sports Illustrated right.

I mean it was just like you were doing shit and then Sports Illustrated casting and then bang, all of a sudden, you're in the in the magazine.

Really but actually mine was a little unconventional because I was signed to like a prominent modeling agency.

You know that lots of their models were in Sports Ulstrated, And how it works at Sports Illustrated it is like there's the New York casting for like the supermodels, like the gig Had Deeds whatever, and your agent Sin's like you and they take like a list of ten and then they pick a few models and then they opened up when I first got into it, an open casting call so that anybody on earth can just stand in line for ten hours and get it in a magazine.

But my agency, you know, when I when I was with them, I was like, Okay, these are my goals and this is my dream has been Sports Illustrated And they literally like laughed in my face.

Story agents and they were like, that's hilarious.

That's really hard to get into.

And you're from Louisiana.

You just started modeling, so that's a joke.

And I was like okay, And then I went home and I opened up Instagram and they were like sports soldiers hosting and opencasting in Miami.

I had no money, I had like no plan.

I just booked a one way ticket to Miami with my with my I made my mom come with me and we stay in this shitty hotel room on Ocean Drive or whatever, and it was so loud of member.

We didn't sleep a wink, but we waited in line all day.

And she was so supportive.

And I progressed through all the rounds and ended up being featured in the magazine and then became a rookie and then you know, did it for a few years, and on my fifth years when I got the cover.

So I obviously send my agency a little signed cover copy, like well obviously the longer with them.

But I think it motivated me to like prove, you know, because you know how it is in Hollywood.

It's like you can have the best age and this and that, but then you're never going to get that job.

That's way too ridiculous.

Yeah, I wasn't familiar with I was like, I thought, if you had an Asian, you could getr foot in the door, but just goes to show you have to do it yourself.

You know, yeah, and then from that that sort of set that that sort of sets you up essentially.

Yeah, that kind of was like my entry into the industry, I think, and like introduction to the world old and you know, they're the best and I love them.

I just did my like eighth year.

So I do feel like a fifty year old.

Now, Sarah, are you correct me if I'm wrong?

But are you?

Are you into nonprofit stuff as well?

Yes?

Yes?

Yeah, like your was it your mother?

Oh?

Dad works for dad?

Yes?

So do you think you were was instilled in you sort of from him?

I mean definitely.

I feel like we like had family devotionals every day and like every morning at our seven d and breakfast, it was like, these are the rules for school, take care of your sisters, love God, like have funs what is it love?

And serve like birthdays and all that, and so we were just instilled to like serve our community and like.

Even like when we'd mode lawns or whatever, we.

Had to tie or like sin, yeah, we had to do.

But for the time we were like working little babysitting jobs we had, like our parents would take the cash and be.

Like, Okay, this percentage is going to the church like from.

Day one, that was what we were taught, and we a lot of just like community stuff in our hometown and volunteering and stuff like that, and I just kind of saw, like, also, my parents are so happy and they don't care about like fame, money, like any of that, and I feel like there's just a level of fulfillment that comes from like addressing the problems of the world.

Like to not sound cliche, but you can't get anywhere else.

And then after college, like I went to a liberal arts school for them, and so we talk a lot about like just the problems with society and everything, and it just really motivated me to get involved in that space.

That's great, amazing.

Are you specifically involved in a certain space of nonprofit?

So I work for this organization ISR.

It's Influencers Social Responsibility.

It's like corporate social responsibility, but for celebrities, influencers, public figures, and we essentially connect It's like a marketing agency for the nonprofit who will connect them with like influential people who can share about it and host events.

And it works both ways because like if somebody who's a celebrity or influencer doesn't know how to get involved, which is like so common.

Then they can tell us what cause they care about, and we can connect them with the right people and like put their name on an event and sort of like build out their philanthropic profile.

That's great.

Yeah, it's awesome, we're saying there.

Yeah, it's smart.

It's smart, well, because I mean, look, the influencer, right, that word is definitely in the last five years, has become something very real.

You know, there's a ton of a ton of money to be made off of it, you know, I mean essentially everyone's an influencer at some point.

You know, even though I'm an actor, you know I have I have an Instagram and you know I get sometimes paid to do shit, and you know, your voice can be influential.

Right.

There's a lot of people who are just making a ton of money, but there is also a space for them to do some good shit, and a lot of them probably don't know how to enter that space because they're so sort of fame and money focused, right, But you know, how about giving back a tad using that influence, using that fame to give back.

It's smart, very smart.

Yeah, I hadn't heard of anybody doing that, and I feel like we're so many charities that also want to be an I to to a certain talent for every.

Out, like it's so beneficial for everyone.

And I also feel like in school for four years, I was worrying about like how social media is going to destroy us all and we're just going to like the capitalists like buck society essentially, and I was like, but what's the answer, and they just like never had one.

And then this woman, Alex Bishman came to me and was like, Hey, would you want to get involved?

And I was like, wait, this is like perfect.

Sir.

Jane was like the EmPATH of our family and like when we were all at college or whatever, she was the one that like all the protests in Louisiana, like like gathering people for rallies and for good causes, and you know, especially in Louisiana.

I was so proud of you, like for doing that well because.

Like you know, people weren't weren't you know, paying attention to things like the Black Lives Matter movement and stuff like that, and she was gathering people and you know, raising money even just in high school for causes because you know, in Louisiana, you're not really supposed to like.

Rally or stand for purchase.

That might be proud of you to.

Stand for something and you know, for what's right.

And I think you carried that onto like your life now.

It's yeah, Sa.

It's amazing.

So how did this show come about?

How did it all happen?

I was with Jimmy Kimmel, right, I mean, he's producing, he's he's a good man.

I know, Jimmy such a great guy.

We're honored to have his humor and brain and you know, ideas involved in the show because he's so smart and amazing.

But I think actually speaking.

Of Jimmy, the way that it all came about, it actually people think that it just like came about in the last few months, but you know how shows work.

It's been in the works for several years with Hulu, and it started because we met Jimmy's agent, baby Doll, James Dixon, and he was like, you girls are so entertaining, like we should put you guys on TV.

And of course we're like, we love that idea.

You know, we weren't as they noted that, and.

So the you know, they pitched it and Disney loved the idea, and so we started the process but started filming.

You know, you know how those things take him in it and how it happened to the star all aligned at the right time, and Jimmy was like, this is great.

I want to be involved.

So we're lucky to have such a good group around us.

Yeah, and then was there when you were sort of having creative meetings about what the show is going to be?

Obviously you know, you guys are the stars.

Casting is everything when it comes to reality TV.

And then obviously even just knowing you guys for half an hour, you know it's you're very compelling women.

You are you are?

I mean you definitely you can see why people would want to watch you guys.

You know, watch better tune in.

I watched.

Look, you guys are beautiful and smart and funny as shit, and you're unfiltered.

You know, we got we got a viewer.

Yeah, we got one.

You got one.

You got one.

But uh, are you guys ready for what it could possibly bring?

You know what I mean, like as far as the fame goes, and if this thing sort of takes off, is this something that you would welcome and want?

I feel like we.

Were like such open books, and I feel like when it comes to reality TV, I think the reason one of the reasons people are gonna like it is because we are completely raw and authentic during it, Like we're not done up with makeup, like we're in our sweats, we're crying, pretty dumb, we're going through We just we just watched it for the first time, like.

I was watching that.

Okay, by season two, I am going to be completely a list.

I'm gonna have my whole thanks for She Goes.

I will be plastic wheeled out of the She Goes.

We can film it though, so you know, I feel.

Like I was nervous at first, like I'm like, I don't I'm kind of shy, and I was.

Nervous to be like perceived and all that.

But at the end of the day, like what we're realizing and my parents do they were like, I don't know.

That is like my dad's a financial advisor and baton Rouge.

She was like, what are my clients gonna think?

But they're like, you know, seventy years old.

Yeah.

But I think during the filming process especially and even just watching it last night, like we're all we're all like each other's best friends and honestly, I don't care what anyone else thinks outside of these five people.

So yeah, it's like we're all going to stick together no matter what.

And they're hurt.

Some of our mom like little quotes that we used to make fun of I've stuck with and I'm like, okay, those makes sense if I used to like tell her a lie or be like at school in high school.

Someone says saying this about me and she's like, well, you know the truth.

We know the truth.

You know the truth.

I mean that's is that true?

Like you know the truth?

So I think that with things and rumors in this and that, it's like, well I know the truth, so fine, exactly the truth will set you free, not to quote the Bible, and like we just told our truth and you know we're rolling with it.

What is was there an angle that was talked about, meaning like yeah, we're just going to film you guys, but you know what is the day to day if you're going to pitch the show?

You know it's not just the Natior Sister's gone wild.

I mean maybe you know it kind of is it's like Bad Drol's Club or something like Yeah, breakers Vies.

Yeah right, we definitely knew we wanted to show every aspect of our lives, like career, I'm young model doing my philanthropy stuff.

Brooks is like at the top of the modeling world right now, like crushing it, getting these new opportunities.

You're welcome.

Yeah, and then our others.

So we each have different careers.

One of us, Mary Holland, was in the finance roads who worked at Deutsche Bank.

They went on and started was right up.

And so we have career, we have love life, we're single.

But I also think the premise of the show in general is like, you know, people are saying like it's swamp People meets like Beverly Hillbillies meets Sex in the City.

Like it's like all of this come together.

And I think the way that the show starts off, which is true, is I'm fresh off of a divorce.

I was at the same person eighteen to twenty seven.

I thought I was going to be with that person forever.

It didn't work out, And so here we are on moving back in with the whole family in New York and soho and yeah, let's be all full and hot and fun in twenties and unhinged and everything that comes with it.

I had a boyfriend at the beginning.

Of the show and then you see that all unravel and yeah, I also the weirdly like didn't have to fabricate or like plan anything because it is ps chaotic.

Four sisters that are so those living in the same city, you move in together and anything.

They had to like spring up back.

They're like girls, like it's getting to be we can't even catch it all.

Like there's blood over here, there's a weir, there's tears.

Blood weaves, blood weaves and tears.

That's a good title for an episode.

Blood Oh my god, I love that blood.

There's all of them in that.

Also shots and a zepic and pregnancy test.

Unrambling, but there's talk about like some real ship too, be like refreshing.

Yeah, unfiltered, just yeah, And you guys are single?

Sure are that's on the pod?

How's that going right?

Great?

We're pre summer.

I don't know how I'm going to ever be with someone.

Just like together every night and like we don't approve of anyone.

I mean literally, like in the summer.

I have like a couple of things going on right now, and like it was would be the three of us, and she's like, excuse me, It's like it's not I shouldn't have said that, but it's true.

And why why old men?

Well?

You know, I mean, look, look, I'm an old man, so I think, like, I don't mind it.

I'm too young for you.

I'm below fifty.

We are way too your spring.

Chicken from I'm spring chicken.

We don't know.

We always ask that because we're like dad is so perfect, we don't have daddy issues.

But where does this all stem from?

That we need older men's approval?

I don't know, like for me, like I like girls too, so the girls, it doesn't matter they age not like old girls.

That's a whole You're like we hot young models.

Yeah yeah, no, no, no, I mean so, but guys, I don't know what it is.

No, no, no old have any girl like?

Okay, I don't know.

You tell me you don't know what's wrong with us.

We're about to get checked though, by some sort of a doctor or which doctor because we don't know where this comes from.

I mean, actually, though I have a young on my roster, you know, oh you do you do?

Actually?

Too young is twenty three twenty two.

Oh those are young niece, baby.

Yes, they're perfect.

But guys like my age, it's like stupid.

Yeah yeah, right, so there's a maturity level.

Yeah, I mean, have you with us old?

With us old guys, you finally starts to mature at.

Fifty, it's like finally happening.

I just think that they're like more.

I'm more impressed by the fifty year old.

I mean because they're funnier and they've lived life and they've experienced things.

The part of me is also.

Like like halfway through when I'm doing that, I'm like, you know.

You're doing them.

I'm like, wait, what's wrong with you?

Though?

That?

Like ya like years really by.

Zero, that's okay.

It's okay to be weird and fucked up, like we all are.

Igree By the way, my dad goes, I have one rule with these fucking guys, and we go what he goes, I don't want to have to call them sir, like I don't want you to be with a six year old.

I'm like, high start and I.

Sweet you, and I go that's pretty high.

Chance says that that's gonna happen.

He's like, are you fucking kidding?

And I was like, what's wrong with the next generation of actors and athletes?

Why don't we go for those?

Like what about this guy's showing me?

I'm like, Dad, sweet, he's just worried.

Yeah, yeah, he's gonna You're gonna bring home up peer, you know what I mean?

Oh God, we asked, do you have any mentors?

By the way, the older generation of yours?

But also I go, Dad, But then, like you guys can bond over movie quotes and like the same songs, and like you guys can.

Talk about that.

I don't have to pretend I know about this old movie from the twenties.

That's funny.

All right, cool, Well, I'm excited for you guys.

Thank you.

We're so excited.

We'll have you over for gumbo later.

I'm down for some gumbo.

Okay, all right, Oliver, thank you.

Bye.

The NAT girls, Oh my god, it's fun.

These are crazy.

Yeah, they're crazy, but they're awesome.

The dad, the dad, I mean, it takes a he's got four of them.

I have one.

Rio is already at twelve, like liking boys.

And this summer a boy asked for her number, and then you know, because she just got a phone and then he gave her, she gave him his number, and I'm like, real, what the fuck?

I mean?

You know, it's this weird thing that comes over me.

And may be men and I don't know when their daughters start to enter this phase where it becomes about boys and boys are interested as someone like the Nator Pop, you know, who is a conservative man who then is watching his daughter sort of grow up into what they've become, which obviously they're very successful and they know how to parlay.

You have to be strong as a man to be like all right, bucket, you know.

I mean, imagine your daughter.

Imagine my daughter at twenty four bringing home a fifty year old man who's my age.

I mean, how do you deal with that?

I would find God too.

I would have to find God if that was the case.

So maybe if that happens, I got to call him.

Maybe he'll baptize me.

All right, I'm out,