Episode Transcript
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard this song since the greatest year in history, nineteen ninety seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_09]: When Conner and face off.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's an in theaters the same year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a one of the listeners, names Colton.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been messaging me about Conner coming out in nineteen ninety six and I really really need to follow up on that because he claims to have proof that Conner was nineteen ninety six.
[SPEAKER_09]: Send it.
[SPEAKER_09]: What's his name?
[SPEAKER_01]: Colton.
[SPEAKER_09]: Colton, send the proof, but because I already checked box office mojo, which is pretty much all the proofs.
[SPEAKER_09]: The Bible.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's Bible of when stuff was in theaters.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, came out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he says it's just another website ran by a bunch of liberals.
[SPEAKER_01]: You would, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Might as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Might as well believe with the PDF in that case.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know, we don't need to be hyped for already hyped dude.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're already hyped.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're already in it.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're already ready.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_09]: Crime crew in effect.
[SPEAKER_09]: Crime juice in the glass.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, what more, what more do you guys want to get started?
[SPEAKER_09]: What more can I get for you?
[SPEAKER_09]: To start this fucking episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you got the heroin?
[SPEAKER_09]: Man, you are always asking for heroin.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is like insane.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I've only told you, yes, three times.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you keep asking.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, that's a constant complaint with coupe is he's too hyped up, so he needs to come down.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm way too high energy.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we're playing Buster Rimes and he's like needing to get even to that level, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, happy to be here.
[SPEAKER_09]: Happy to see you guys.
[SPEAKER_09]: We have got a great one.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a banger of an episode this week.
[SPEAKER_11]: Authorities aren't desperately searching for a killer accused of going on a rampage.
[SPEAKER_01]: The search for a possible serial killer.
[SPEAKER_08]: An urgent man hunt for a man authority's belief is behind a triple killing spree.
[SPEAKER_05]: Police here speculating that a possible serial killer may have struck again.
[SPEAKER_05]: Tornado get out of the car and that's when she became afraid.
[SPEAKER_09]: Welcome to Crime Corner.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm your host, Jesse Weissman, as always, I am joined by my crime crew, coop, coop loop, and Delco, non-dairy Dan.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: You guys are watching on video.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look how nice his angle is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Always the best out of the three angles.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah, lighting.
[SPEAKER_12]: I don't know what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_12]: I spend the least amount of time on my shot.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, look, he put the back lighting, all of that back lighting he's been doing this whole time.
[SPEAKER_09]: Anyways, today we've got another fun and flirty episode for you that's got all of our favorite things.
[SPEAKER_09]: A crime in Illinois that surprisingly didn't happen in Chicago.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're rare, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're very rare.
[SPEAKER_09]: A Midwest family that doesn't have an annoying accent.
[SPEAKER_09]: Very weird.
[SPEAKER_09]: That was the weirdest part.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I think more rare than a crime happening in Illinois outside of Chicago.
[SPEAKER_09]: The mom a little bit.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to give away too much.
[SPEAKER_09]: But not really.
[SPEAKER_09]: Not the detectives.
[SPEAKER_09]: Nobody has that annoying.
[SPEAKER_09]: Should cut like Illinois thing.
[SPEAKER_12]: Chicago.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: get yourself some Italian beef.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_12]: The bears.
[SPEAKER_09]: And an amateur wrestler with a really [SPEAKER_09]: Lame, stage, name, and outfit.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is the case of Ashley Reeves.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, so this is gonna be a roller coaster.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's gonna be highs.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's gonna be lows.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's gonna be highs again.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're gonna hate some people.
[SPEAKER_09]: One person.
[SPEAKER_09]: So much, there's gonna be a surprising [SPEAKER_01]: crazy surprising twist in the middle uh so get get ready get ready it's it's definitely gonna be a ride we've gone through a lot of really really horrible horrible cases yes and this is the only one that I've ever had to take a break from and it's surprisingly not [SPEAKER_01]: Not as gruesome as some of our other cases, but this one just really, really got to me.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's all emotion.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's all unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's all, um, I don't, you, you won't believe it.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a case that I heard a while ago and stuck with me.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I sent it to you and you were like, hmm.
[SPEAKER_12]: What?
[SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: You ready?
[SPEAKER_12]: You have my curiosity.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: No, you have my attention.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, ready.
[SPEAKER_09]: Get ready for it.
[SPEAKER_09]: We've got some vids, some fun interrogation.
[SPEAKER_09]: You guys love a good interrogation.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the best.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're my favorite thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just such good insight into the mind of absolute shit bags.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you also think about what you, it puts you in the position of like, what would I do?
[SPEAKER_09]: How would I, like, what if I was like, I would be innocent, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: But of course.
[SPEAKER_09]: But how do you act like overly, I swear to God, you know, like, [SPEAKER_09]: It makes you kind of think what is going through their minds.
[SPEAKER_09]: But anyways, I think we should get into get on this roller coaster ride.
[SPEAKER_09]: What do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, here we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today we will be making yet another trip to the Great State of Illinois.
[SPEAKER_01]: As usual, we will take a moment to set the scene before getting into the meat and potatoes of our stories for our story for the week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So originally inhabited by indigenous cultures, the Prairie State was first settled by the French in the seventeenth century where they founded the colony of New France.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we have seen in both Louisiana and Quebec, if the French are the first Europeans to claim the territory, the future is not looking bright.
[SPEAKER_01]: Salt production was the first major industry to pop up in Illinois, which explains why the residents are always so fucking salty.
[SPEAKER_01]: But later on in the state's history, lead mining became a cornerstone of the economy and is still so important to the residents of Illinois that you could say it's in their blood.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is primarily due to the gun violence and dangerously high levels of lead in the water, so lead is quite literally in their blood.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not every city in Illinois is ravaged by violent crime, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the suburbs are actually pretty peaceful.
[SPEAKER_01]: But just because you're not dodging bullets on your way to work, doesn't mean you're completely safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a lesson, the Reeves family of Nell-Stead Illinois learned the hard way when their daughter Ashley suddenly disappeared into thin air.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, this is two thousand six.
[SPEAKER_09]: So this song was playing in every car, everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's a great song.
[SPEAKER_09]: So think about this era, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: This is where our case is.
[SPEAKER_09]: I freaking loved this song.
[SPEAKER_01]: What ever happened to this guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is Cilo Green?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was Barclay.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was messing with an eighteen year old or something.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, that's what I said.
[SPEAKER_09]: I go she's eighteen.
[SPEAKER_09]: What's the problem?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't see the problem with that either.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was No, it was Barclay, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Not Cilo Green.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it No, it's Barclay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's No, it's Barclay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea who Cilo Green is then.
[SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just wanted to kind of set the scene.
[SPEAKER_09]: You guys remember that time, right?
[SPEAKER_12]: I'd rather just listen to the song.
[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't want to go down this this dark path.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: But don't worry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't worry.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think you're going to be sad.
[SPEAKER_12]: I did like to see in the coupe set up.
[SPEAKER_12]: Chicago famously had the meat packing industry, even though Green Bay stole it from them.
[SPEAKER_12]: You know, bastards.
[SPEAKER_12]: I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of rants in meat pack meat.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, a lot of like human meat inside.
[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, that's fun.
[SPEAKER_12]: So that's that's what Chicago does.
[SPEAKER_12]: You know, that's the bears in that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Is that why people are like in a shoe bag?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just so there's something about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's why the dogs are so good over there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Something about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that where what was the book?
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the zoo or something like that that was all about the horrors of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is.
[SPEAKER_12]: To be packing industry is all about Chicago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God for Chicago for teaching us that valuable lesson.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: And for just overall, kind of just being annoying.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: On the afternoon of April, twenty seven, two thousand six, seventeen year old Ashley Reeves left her family home in Milstatt.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sound right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, though.
[SPEAKER_09]: Milstatt, Illinois.
[SPEAKER_09]: To attend a job interview in a neighboring city, having no vehicle of her own, Ashley borrowed a car belonging to her boyfriend of two years, Jeremy Smith, and loaded it with the attire she had picked out for the interview, as well as some athletic clothing so she could go play basketball with her friends afterwards.
[SPEAKER_09]: Then, around third to three, thirty PM, she said goodbye to her family and drove away.
[SPEAKER_09]: So let's take a look at Ashley Reeves, the seventeen-year-old in our story.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sounds it looks about right.
[SPEAKER_09]: You said you were triggered by the way she looks.
[SPEAKER_09]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: She reminds me a lot of my niece.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, my niece was around the same age.
[SPEAKER_01]: She had very similar features.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's got the same color eyes or smile looks the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I won't be looking at the screen very much for this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I think about it too much, I'll have to step out.
[SPEAKER_12]: She's got a big old gap in her teeth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she'll probably end up with braces at some point.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's kind of endearing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like, you know, she's classic.
[SPEAKER_09]: We've got Choker for audio listeners.
[SPEAKER_09]: Choker under the eye black.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, we're going all the way under the eye with the black eye liner.
[SPEAKER_09]: We've got the two little strings hanging out the front of the ponytail.
[SPEAKER_09]: and an endearing gap in the teeth.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's also very tall, basketball player.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just after ten p.m.
[SPEAKER_09]: that night, the St.
[SPEAKER_09]: Claire County Sheriff's Office received a troubling phone call from Ashley's mother, Michelle.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I think she was actually in her mom's car.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, from your boyfriend that she was going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, from the reports that I heard she had borrowed her boyfriend's car.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was in a car that we know for sure that wasn't hers.
[SPEAKER_09]: And she said she was going to a job interview to use it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, so just after ten pm that night, the St.
[SPEAKER_09]: Clair County Sheriff's Office received a troubling phone call from Ashley's mother, Michelle.
[SPEAKER_09]: According to Michelle, Ashley had failed to return home for her ten pm curfew, and to make matters worse, she hadn't response.
[SPEAKER_09]: She wasn't responding to text or phone calls from her friends and family.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was very out of character for Ashley to not respond when her family tried to contact her.
[SPEAKER_09]: And with her friends being unable to reach her as well, her parents knew something was wrong.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sheriff's deputy's to their credit began searching immediately.
[SPEAKER_09]: And didn't wait.
[SPEAKER_09]: There was something about it.
[SPEAKER_09]: The mom was like, she has never not.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's like, she knows very strict rule.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you are not back at ten, you are calling.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you are answering.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're doing something to let me know by ten.
[SPEAKER_09]: And it had been [SPEAKER_09]: a while after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ashley was in one of those rebellious kids with some behavior problems like on her role.
[SPEAKER_09]: Athlete.
[SPEAKER_09]: So sheriff's deputies began searching, searching the surrounding area for any signs of Ashley or her boyfriend's vehicle or her mother's vehicle.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's different reports, many different articles, but, um, or her mother's the her vehicle, we'll just say hers.
[SPEAKER_09]: While the police conducted their search, Ashley's family began carrying out an investigation of their own, smart.
[SPEAKER_09]: Since Ashley was on a family cell phone plan, Michelle was able to access her phone records to determine who she had been speaking to in the days and been up to her disappearance.
[SPEAKER_09]: Very smart too.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like they were everyone was on it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Very quickly with anywhere else.
[SPEAKER_09]: It would be like sorry, you know, she's seventeen year old girl.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like let's wait a little bit again to their credit.
[SPEAKER_09]: They were like, okay, we're starting right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good on the sheriff's department for starting the investigation so quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to go back and learn a little bit about Ashley's life growing up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Born and raised in Milstad, Illinois's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ashley grew up with a loving stick.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm gonna do this again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do that.
[SPEAKER_09]: So is it Illinois's?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Illinois.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I...
I fucked that up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You certainly don't say the S.
Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't?
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: But we had this debate last time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I did it and I can't remember the consensus.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not that you're wrong.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know you don't say that like that.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not that you're wrong.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just...
Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's like what me and Rob say about the Mandela effect?
[SPEAKER_12]: I'm not wrong.
[SPEAKER_12]: I slid into another universe.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_12]: And this is different.
[SPEAKER_09]: So every case you guys will remember if you've been with us for a while, you remember we have this debate.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we probably pronounce it different every single episode.
[SPEAKER_09]: Illinois's and I think actually.
[SPEAKER_09]: Ross does too, and he was born there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So shouldn't we go by?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, but okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Tell you who's absolutely wrong.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're gonna do the opposite of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's Illinois.
[SPEAKER_09]: Illinois.
[SPEAKER_01]: Born and raised in Milstad, Illinois, Ashley grew up with you.
[SPEAKER_09]: I do like that, too, every time.
[SPEAKER_09]: I go, okay, supposedly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ashley grew up with a loving, stable family and had a healthy relationship with her parents, Michelle and Michael.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ashley was also very close to a younger sister Casey who saw her as both a sibling and a best friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: By all accounts, she had neither a reason nor the desire to run away from home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only did Ashley come from a happy home, she had a happy academic and social life as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: She performed well in school and was excitedly looking forward to graduating the following year so she could attend college.
[SPEAKER_01]: She and her boyfriend Jeremy Smith had been dating for two years and had grown very close to one another.
[SPEAKER_01]: The two shared a strong connection and their relationship showed no signs of cooling off anytime soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although she wasn't exceptionally popular, she was well-liked by her classmates and the faculty at the school.
[SPEAKER_01]: her friends knew her to be a warm, energetic and caring person who was always ready for an adventure.
[SPEAKER_01]: She also had, what some might call, a smile that could light up a room.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most dangerous thing any child can have.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's more dangerous than given a kid a gun.
[SPEAKER_09]: But we've fooled you before, haven't we?
[SPEAKER_09]: On the night of her disappearance, Ashley's mother, frantically poured over cell phone records, hoping to find some clue that might help her find her daughter.
[SPEAKER_09]: As she searched through the numbers, Ashley had been in contact with in, as she searched through the numbers, Ashley had been in contact with in the previous days.
[SPEAKER_09]: She discovered one that caught her interest.
[SPEAKER_09]: Not only did Michelle not recognize that particular number, it also appeared on the call logs more than any other phone number.
[SPEAKER_09]: Curious about who may be on the other end, Michelle dialed the number and waited for someone to pick up.
[SPEAKER_09]: When someone finally answered, Michelle was surprised to hear the voice of a man she knew on the other end of the line.
[SPEAKER_09]: His name was Samson Shelton, known as Sam Shelton, and he was a twenty-six-year-old teacher from a nearby school, not even her school.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's get a picture of Sam, the teacher, the fun teacher, is this in like, is this a football pick?
[SPEAKER_09]: Like he's he's an athlete.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every single picture of him that I could find looks like he's in some sort of line up.
[SPEAKER_09]: So for this town in this area, he is hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hot, young teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, not my type.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the sexy teacher at school.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sexie teacher fun, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Delco, is it just me or does he kind of have a resemblance to Chris Benlaw?
[SPEAKER_09]: It's something he does look like somebody, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: In some of the other pictures, he bears a striking resemblance to Chris.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think it's the season haircut?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that might be it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Caesar hair cut.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you find me?
[SPEAKER_09]: I'll Ben Waw, picture.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'll get a Ben Waw.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Aside from being the gym coach, Shelton also taught driver's ed and after hours participated in amateur wrestling matches under the stage name, the teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: Shelton had been a casual acquaintance of Ashley's since middle school when she was one of his students.
[SPEAKER_09]: So [SPEAKER_01]: Why would he go by?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would he go by the name that teacher when Samson is right there?
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, but he wanted to be a good guy, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: He wanted to be a fit.
[SPEAKER_09]: So he had like a sweater vest and like a button up shirt and would like come out holding an apple.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fucking lose.
[SPEAKER_09]: And by the way, videos I saw not horrible.
[SPEAKER_09]: It wasn't horrible.
[SPEAKER_09]: He could do some crazy moves, but it's just the out, it was khakis and like, [SPEAKER_09]: I think it was just the picture.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not as close as I thought it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it pictures a crisp and wall that often.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was going off a memory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
[SPEAKER_12]: Weirdly, I look at crisp and wall photos every day.
[SPEAKER_09]: Think of crisp and wall without roids and pale.
[SPEAKER_09]: Kind of like that's the vibe.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's the vibe for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same square shape.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that picture as well with him like football and stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: So Michelle Ashley's mother, Michelle explained the situation in Ask Shelton if he had any idea where Ashley might be.
[SPEAKER_09]: The teacher told her the teacher and come and do the ring the teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to teach you a lesson.
[SPEAKER_09]: Is that that's the worst wrestling name from parts unknown?
[SPEAKER_09]: It is the teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: a small apple, not even like an exaggerated apple.
[SPEAKER_09]: He just comes out with a normal, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_09]: This guy is in Terrasont.
[SPEAKER_09]: So the teacher told her that he hadn't seen or spoken to her recently, but he would contact Michelle if he heard anything.
[SPEAKER_09]: A former Michelle could ask any further questions.
[SPEAKER_09]: Shelton hung up the phone.
[SPEAKER_09]: Although she thought the interaction was strange, Michelle didn't believe Shelton had anything to do with Ashley's disappearance.
[SPEAKER_09]: Even though she wasn't particularly suspicious, Michelle still decided that she would report the interaction to the police the following day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it probably would have been a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let him let him know about anything, but she did hold off on reporting it for a little while, but also from the way that she described the conversation, there wasn't really anything suspicious about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was concerned.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said that he didn't know where she was and that if he heard anything or saw anything that he would definitely contact her and let her know.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we talked about like the mom actually knew who he was because [SPEAKER_09]: uh...
he was ashley's gym teacher in middle school so just a little bit at this point he wasn't her teacher but they would like meet up to play basketball he like play basketball with kids in the neighborhood no matter what school they were from so the mom knew him and knew him in the community and didn't think anything of this interaction around twelve hours after Reeves went missing [SPEAKER_01]: Police made their first break in the case.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her abandoned car was discovered in Latterman Park in the nearby town of Belville.
[SPEAKER_01]: Inside Police found Ashley's driver's license, along with the outfit she had planned on wearing to her job interview, and they also found her athletic clothes in the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: The officers could tell by the condition of the clothing that they had never been worn.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was now abundantly clear that something had happened to her.
[SPEAKER_09]: Being one of the last...
We've done enough of these cases, like Missing Girl, Seventeen.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty much never good news.
[SPEAKER_01]: Being one of the last people to see her before she vanished, Ashley's boyfriend Jeremy Smith was brought in for questioning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Having been in the committed relationship with Ashley for two years, Jeremy had grown close with her family and was loved by both of her parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: Neither Michelle nor Michael could believe that you would ever do anything to hurt their daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Still, the investigators needed to cover all of their bases.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at that moment, Jeremy was a prime suspect.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've got a clip of the interview with Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_06]: You are Ashley's boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is that correct?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: How often do you see her?
[SPEAKER_06]: Once a day, usually.
[SPEAKER_06]: Once a day, so many of you guys are pretty serious.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I believe me.
[SPEAKER_06]: I seriously am giving you my hundred percent all telling you that truth.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, there's, if, I love her, I love her death.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anything to get her back.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I just, I've never, I've cried, but I mean, I'm just so poor up about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was from Uncle's band, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's Jennifer Baragherl, and she said if I get a chance caller.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Other than that, I mean, I'll show it to Cole now.
[SPEAKER_06]: And when was last time that you talked to her?
[SPEAKER_06]: It was yesterday between, [SPEAKER_06]: Right, it was on a new niche.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was feeling like eleven and one.
[SPEAKER_06]: She said, I'm gonna go to this interview and I'm gonna go play basketball.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, nice kid, but no emotion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you were saying, it's, it's exceedingly hard to tell when someone's acting innocent or when they are innocent.
[SPEAKER_09]: saying like, you know, I have cried.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, just not crying right now.
[SPEAKER_09]: Interesting to note that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's almost one of those things that only a guilty person would be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: But he's a young kid too.
[SPEAKER_09]: So like, he's just freaked out too.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hard to tell in these same with nine one calls.
[SPEAKER_09]: You never know what someone's going through at that moment.
[SPEAKER_09]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: According to Jeremy, the last time he had seen Ashley was when he let her borrow his car the previous morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the time of her disappearance, he had been in a neighboring town watching his uncle's band perform at a place called the Stratford Bar and Grill.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was also the last time he had gotten any messages from her.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the time when Ashley should have been playing basketball with her friends, she had sent him a text asking him to call her as soon as he got the chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a bacon concierge.
[SPEAKER_09]: We might have some bacon being delivered.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't be alarmed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was afraid the light was on fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was thinking too.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're smelling burning guys if it just so you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the time he was able to call, Ashley was already missing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he claimed to have added [SPEAKER_09]: brief text conversation with her while he was at the stratford bar in grill watching his uncle's band but wasn't able to actually get a hold of her on the phone right and then he said in the interrogation he said she said to just call him whenever he could and now he's like wishing he'd called her back [SPEAKER_09]: Investigators contacted Jeremy's uh Gary we had we we prepped the the bacon delivery so you know whenever Investigators contacted Jeremy's family who confirmed that he had been with his uncle the night Ashley disappeared the only lead they were able to get from Jeremy was confirmation that she had plans [SPEAKER_09]: to play basketball with a friend the day she went missing.
[SPEAKER_09]: When they asked who that friend was, they were given a familiar name.
[SPEAKER_09]: Samson Shelton.
[SPEAKER_09]: The teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to say Sam Shelton just because that's how we're, you know, he's referred to mostly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if my first name was Samson, there's no way in hell I would shorten it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't you shorten that fucking name?
[SPEAKER_01]: Never call me Sam.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sam, you will.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't want that shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Samson?
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: At that point, Michelle had informed the police of the phone call between her and Shelton.
[SPEAKER_09]: What neither Michelle nor the police knew was that Shelton was the person she had plans to meet after her job interview.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we're thinking now that she maybe didn't even have a job interview.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now that Ashley's boyfriend was no longer a suspect, Shelton was the only lead the police head left to follow.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, the afternoon after Ashley went missing, Sam Shelton was brought in for questioning.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then, coup, you just let me know when we should play that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it'll be after that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just before Shelton was put in the hot seat investigators spoke with a few of Ashley's friends from school to see if there were any other possible suspects.
[SPEAKER_09]: They don't want to go full force on someone without, you know, finding out if there's anyone else that it could be.
[SPEAKER_09]: During the questioning, one of Ashley's friends mentioned that they had heard rumors that she had been having a secret relationship with an older man.
[SPEAKER_09]: Although Ashley hadn't said who the man was, her friend suspected that it may be her former Jim Coach, Sam Shelton.
[SPEAKER_09]: And the girls, like, [SPEAKER_09]: the girls in the school and everyone that knew him like it was just a thing you guys know did you guys ever have teachers were that like all the girls had crushes or younger teachers girls or yeah women teachers too that were like younger that like everyone was just like yeah she's that's hot teacher but I don't think the guy teachers ever like acted on it where the girl teachers maybe they like they obviously didn't act on it but they would like lean into it [SPEAKER_09]: They lean into it because they weren't going to act on it.
[SPEAKER_09]: The guy teachers historically.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's why we have them.
[SPEAKER_09]: All the stories that we do have historically.
[SPEAKER_09]: They do kind of act on it.
[SPEAKER_12]: I do remember a trip to Europe.
[SPEAKER_09]: I wonder if anything happened.
[SPEAKER_09]: It took us like to start having more flash.
[SPEAKER_09]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you just would like play after hours, basketball with seventeen year olds, because seventeen year olds are so [SPEAKER_09]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you'd always rub our legs afterwards, so they didn't get sore, just real friendly guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_09]: He even bought us beer and stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't even mean like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the hot female teacher from my high school went on to marry Jack Johnson, the musician.
[SPEAKER_09]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because she was real hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, her name was Kim.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every boy in the school.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was in Santa Barbara.
[SPEAKER_09]: Uh, that is some Santa Barbara ship right there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: My hot English teacher from tenth grade went on to be the middle school principal.
[SPEAKER_12]: So not the same caliber.
[SPEAKER_09]: Not the same caliber.
[SPEAKER_09]: My hot science teacher hot science teacher from high school.
[SPEAKER_09]: uh, I waited on him in Vegas and then he tried to hang out after.
[SPEAKER_09]: I remember you tell me it was one of the things that like you like you guys felt you had crushes, but when it comes down to it, are you up for the fucking task when you can act on it?
[SPEAKER_09]: I wasn't.
[SPEAKER_12]: No.
[SPEAKER_09]: I wasn't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I wasn't up for it.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was weird.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I was just fully like, twenties.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was, you know, everyone's of age to make decisions for themselves, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: But I was like, I can't do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: In my mind, that's still kind of adjacent to pedophilia, because if he practically helped bring this to you.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was like, this is what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_09]: When you're twenty eight with seventeen or twenty seven, some teachers are twenty six with seventeen, you know, that gap is not as big as [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: When I was, you know, seventeen, eighteen, we had twenty-two-year-old teachers.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's not bad.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_09]: It should not happen.
[SPEAKER_09]: They don't really do it that much anymore.
[SPEAKER_09]: But, you know, it wasn't like when I saw him in Vegas, he was like super old, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so he's not like, not like in his sixties or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, he was a young teacher when I had a crush on.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, not quite as pedophile adjacent as I thought it was.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and he was very much like wanting, framing it, like wanting to like meet a show him Vegas because I lived there and I was like, yeah, I know how this works.
[SPEAKER_12]: You need a Twitter or something?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it was like the strip is pretty self-explanatory, like the flamingo, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: You see all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: What am I going to show you?
[SPEAKER_09]: That's the MGM grand, like you see it.
[SPEAKER_12]: We're at a NASCAR Cafe, sir.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm the one that's going to show you the undetual.
[SPEAKER_09]: I could show him the underbelly, which is maybe what he wanted.
[SPEAKER_09]: Drugs.
[SPEAKER_09]: He wanted drugs.
[SPEAKER_09]: He didn't even want to hook up.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was like, you live here.
[SPEAKER_09]: You could get some fucking good shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Damn it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that would kill myself a steam if I figured that out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just want you for the drugs.
[SPEAKER_09]: Finally clear to the job being this in real time.
[SPEAKER_09]: He just wanted a local to get him fucking drugs.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's okay if you want to take a couple minutes off.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, because I need a big part of my story.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, I wasn't the NASCAR Cafe.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like, what was I thinking?
[SPEAKER_09]: He wanted me to get him some NASCAR good good.
[SPEAKER_09]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, just like I knew I knew it.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm trying to do a respectable show.
[SPEAKER_01]: But on April, twenty-eight, two thousand six, almost twenty four hours after Ashley went missing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sam Shelton sat down with a pair of detectives from the St.
[SPEAKER_01]: Claire Sheriff's Department.
[SPEAKER_01]: From the beginning of the interview, the detectives had a hunch that Shelton knew more than he was willing to admit.
[SPEAKER_01]: The twenty-six year old teacher confirmed that he and Ashley were friends, but hadn't spent much time together.
[SPEAKER_01]: When asked about whether or not they played basketball together, Shelton suddenly changed his story slightly and admitted that they did occasionally meet up to play, but he vehemently denied any allegations of a sexual relationship.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, should we show that part of it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, we can throw that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Put it down, shut the door, ran the car, I took off.
[SPEAKER_11]: I left her.
[SPEAKER_11]: I left her there.
[SPEAKER_11]: I left her out there.
[SPEAKER_11]: I got a radio range road.
[SPEAKER_11]: I left her right out there.
[SPEAKER_11]: I did not want to drive by there.
[SPEAKER_11]: If I would have drove by there.
[SPEAKER_11]: If I would have seen her, like, I don't know if she got hit by a car or something, she was laying over there and ditched.
[SPEAKER_11]: If I would have seen that, I could not stand that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I have, in absolute, if you, I have a very weak stomach when it comes to like, like, Gore movies, I can't even watch it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Let's still have it in my head from the, uh, that new Texas chain song actually, it came out a bit.
[SPEAKER_11]: Every single week, if I would like see her, like laying on the side of the road right there, you just- He's story at this point.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's just like changing changing.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's like nothing, nothing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't know what you're talking about, nothing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Then he's like, all right, fine.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Starts admitting bit by bit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Kind of.
[SPEAKER_09]: We never kissed.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we had sex.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like the only one that thought that was a little strange, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I had sex with her, but I swear I didn't kiss her.
[SPEAKER_12]: We make out a fuck there.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, in his mind that crazy and his mind that's like, I did not.
[SPEAKER_09]: She just like wrote, I wasn't kissing her.
[SPEAKER_09]: She just was all over me.
[SPEAKER_12]: I wasn't about it.
[SPEAKER_12]: And I was just using her.
[SPEAKER_12]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It takes a much better on his part.
[SPEAKER_01]: As the interrogation continued, the detectives began to put more and more pressure on Shelton, confronting him with the statements made by Ashley's friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Finally, after a few hours, his story began to change once again.
[SPEAKER_01]: He admitted that he had, in fact, had a sexual relationship with the seventeen-year-old, but he didn't kiss her.
[SPEAKER_01]: According to Shelton, he and Ashley had only had sex one time before he came to his senses and called off the affair.
[SPEAKER_01]: This had upset Ashley, but they agreed to remain friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing that Shelton was slowly buckling under the pressure, the St.
[SPEAKER_01]: Clair detectives continued to turn out the heat.
[SPEAKER_01]: As the investigators repeatedly called out Shelton for his lies, he began to change his story even more.
[SPEAKER_01]: He revealed that he had been with Ashley shortly before her disappearance.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was when the detectives went in for the kill.
[SPEAKER_11]: I left her there, was what I did.
[SPEAKER_11]: I left her out there, I radio her and drove.
[SPEAKER_11]: I left her right out there.
[SPEAKER_11]: I did not want to drive by there because I'm going to drove by there.
[SPEAKER_11]: And if I would see her, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_11]: If she got hit by a car or something, she was laying over there and ditched.
[SPEAKER_11]: If I would say that, I could not stand that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I have, in absolute, if you're, I have a very weak stomach when it comes to like, like, Gore movies, I can't even watch it.
[SPEAKER_11]: I still have in my head from the, uh, that new Texas chain song actually, it came out a bit, every single week.
[SPEAKER_11]: If I would like see her, like laying on the side of the road right there, it just, I don't know, I would, I would have felt absolutely like horrible.
[SPEAKER_11]: If I had any other information, [SPEAKER_09]: at this point he's saying he got in a fight with her um he like left her like pulled her out of the car and left her like made her get out of the car left her on the side of the road walking and left at this point this is what he's saying [SPEAKER_12]: My man, get a lawyer.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he's like, I couldn't go back.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's like, I couldn't, that's when he was talking.
[SPEAKER_09]: He couldn't go back and see because he was like, what if she got hit by a car?
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to see that.
[SPEAKER_09]: But his story at this point is that he just kicked her out of the car.
[SPEAKER_09]: They got in a fight.
[SPEAKER_09]: He drove away and left her to like, fend for herself, seventeen year old girl at night, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and too afraid to try back by because, oh, what if she got hit by a car or something?
[SPEAKER_09]: But then what if she got hit?
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to see any gore or anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: This fucking guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: So according to Shelton, he had met up with Ashley on the twenty seventh of April to put an end to their relationship once and for all.
[SPEAKER_09]: This had upset Ashley leading to a heated argument in the front seat of Shelton's car.
[SPEAKER_09]: He wanted to end the immoral relationship he had been having with her, but Ashley wanted to continue.
[SPEAKER_09]: After brief verbal quarrel, Shelton asked Ashley to get out of his car and he left her standing alone on the side of the road.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was the last time he saw her.
[SPEAKER_09]: But as the interrogation continued for a few more hours without any progress, [SPEAKER_09]: They brought in a senior detective named Stephen Johnson.
[SPEAKER_09]: Johnson had known Shelton from like Boy Scouts or something like this.
[SPEAKER_09]: Johnson had the other two detectives leave the room so he could speak with Shelton, one on one.
[SPEAKER_09]: During their discussion, Johnson picked up on a strong connection Shelton had with his grandmother because he knew him, knew the family.
[SPEAKER_09]: So he was like, let me just talk to you as a bro.
[SPEAKER_09]: He used this to his advantage, hoping to use empathy to get an honest answer.
[SPEAKER_09]: Johnson asked Shelton what he would tell his grandmother if she were there.
[SPEAKER_09]: So let's look at what happens.
[SPEAKER_12]: And shookcase Johnson.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: So this is the guy he knows now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wouldn't talk to grandma right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I laid down this whole story that you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's grandma going to say?
[SPEAKER_11]: I just want to go home.
[SPEAKER_11]: I just want to explain to my grandma.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly what happened.
[SPEAKER_11]: Plenty of grandma's not here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your mom's not here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's that she know what, in a way they are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because everything they taught you, all the talks grandma had with you, are within you, all of them are.
[SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, right now, Sam, he ain't telling us the truth.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you need to, you have to, for mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: For grandma, come on Sam.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kai will show you what I have put.
[SPEAKER_03]: Please.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's still out there, Sam.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And where is it, Sam?
[SPEAKER_12]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's wearing a baseball jersey.
[SPEAKER_12]: See a coach for the baseball team?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so that's what I was saying.
[SPEAKER_09]: They actually picked him up.
[SPEAKER_09]: The police picked him up for either coaching or he was playing on.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is about to coach a team where he had men's softball.
[SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Game.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's that guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: He plays basketball with all the kids.
[SPEAKER_12]: Not the outfit.
[SPEAKER_12]: I want to get my like no photo in.
[SPEAKER_09]: Also, you don't want to be ripped from the field.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like if you are a coach, if he's a coach of younger kids, not great to be ripped from the field by [SPEAKER_09]: detectives, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not a good one.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no matter what happens, you can't really go back to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, parents aren't going to be really chomping at the bit to have their kids along with you for hours on ends.
[SPEAKER_12]: I'll always remember my little league baseball coach coach Beck.
[SPEAKER_12]: He went the prison with the Tim Donahee gamble in situation with the mafia.
[SPEAKER_05]: No way.
[SPEAKER_09]: and, like, couldn't, that doesn't seem like that bad.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can still coach the kids, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd let my kids play with it.
[SPEAKER_09]: So you like, so you should really into it.
[SPEAKER_09]: enough to put your own money on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Coach, I want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if he's betting on his own games, fuck yeah, I want that guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Coach and Mike.
[SPEAKER_12]: No, they're betting on WNBA games.
[SPEAKER_12]: Or I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, who cares, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a literal who cares.
[SPEAKER_12]: They were betting on NBA games.
[SPEAKER_12]: Tim Don, he was an NBA ref from Cardinal, Harry, my area, a bunch of like weirdly NBA reps are all from New York.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he like threw games, right?
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, he's games.
[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: But he your coach made money from that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he was a part of the ring.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I would have been to you got a ref fixing games.
[SPEAKER_09]: Can I get in on that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a sure so much fucking money.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's also crazy to me in these interrogations.
[SPEAKER_09]: Those simple things that work.
[SPEAKER_09]: like you're like really am I gonna go in here and and just say what would grandma think and then he breaks down like it it's actually crazy after this was like thirteen hours.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is weird that the simplest things and you think in your mind you're like that would never work on me like oh you're gonna say my grandma okay cool like I know what you're doing that's not gonna get to me and all of them just go all right you know.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you got to do the right thing, man.
[SPEAKER_09]: They talk, you got to do the right thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: You got to tell me the truth.
[SPEAKER_12]: Everything good with you, Koo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I'm doing good so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just just thinking about my grandma.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_09]: So the detective mentioning Shelton's mother and grandmother caused the twenty-six year old to break down in tears.
[SPEAKER_09]: Johnson knew that he had finally gotten through the suspect's defenses and it was only a matter of time before he got the confession he was looking for.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure enough after a short break from questioning, Shelton was ready to talk.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that's the interview we saw and he said, I've got to go show you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So at that point, while we discussed a little bit later in the notes, but timeline wise, it was at that point that he took them to the location where he said that he had dumped her body.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, he was like, kind of told him what he did.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then they were like, okay, where's you have to show us the body?
[SPEAKER_09]: He's like, no, I want to see game game first or like, no, you have to tell us where she is.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he's like, okay, I'll show you.
[SPEAKER_01]: After nearly thirteen hours of questioning, Sam Shelton finally broke down and told detectives what had really happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of his initial story had been true, such as the fact that they had met up to discuss their relationship, but Shelton hadn't left Ashley on the side of the road as he claimed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, when the argument got heated, he tried to physically remove her from his car.
[SPEAKER_01]: During the ensuing struggle, Shelton put the teenage girl in a chokehold and began pulling her out of the vehicle.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was then that he heard something in her neck pop, [SPEAKER_01]: and the young girl's body went limp.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once Ashley was unresponsive, Shelton knew that he had to hide her body or else he was at risk of going to prison for murder.
[SPEAKER_01]: He took Ashley's body to a heavily-witted area called Citizens Park and drug her deep into the bushes.
[SPEAKER_01]: During the process, Shelton realized that Ashley was still breathing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hoping to throw police off his trail, Shelton attempted to stage the scene and make it appear that Ashley had been attacked in the woods.
[SPEAKER_01]: First, he attempted to strangle her with his bare hands.
[SPEAKER_01]: When that failed, he removed his belt, wrapped it around her neck, put his foot on her back for leverage, and pulled so hard that the belt snapped.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see why it's been a rough case to put together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Following the brutal attack on Ashley, Shelton did what any reasonable person would do after committing their first murder.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went line dancing at a local country bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Straight from the scene of the crime, to line dancing in there's [SPEAKER_01]: security footage of it just dancing as cares away.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, after we just didn't even look nervous, like sometimes people after they, you know, they'll talk to people that met up with someone after they commit a crime.
[SPEAKER_09]: They were like, seem nervous, seemed weird on edge.
[SPEAKER_09]: This guy was [SPEAKER_09]: Dancing his heart out having a great time.
[SPEAKER_09]: We were talking about I was dancing.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was out in the bow.
[SPEAKER_12]: I was out in the bow.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's like trying to not smile on a jet ski, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: It's like trying not be having fun.
[SPEAKER_09]: Line dancing, right?
[SPEAKER_12]: That's a good alibi though.
[SPEAKER_12]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: Where were you the night she went?
[SPEAKER_12]: Yes, she's footage.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just dancing my tears.
[SPEAKER_01]: After successfully dancing his cares away, he headed home at which point he received a phone call from Ashley's mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: Knowing full well that he had just murdered Michelle's daughter, he had a short friendly conversation with the worried mother and quickly hung up the phone before she could ask too many questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even begin to fathom what it would be like having that conversation, speaking with a worried mother after knowing that what you just did to her daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: absolute peace of shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Shit, little, bitch boy, peace of shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Following his confession, Shelton offered to guide detectives to the location where he had dumped Ashley's body, accompanied by members of the sheriff's office, Shelton attempted to lead detectives to where he thought he had left her corpse.
[SPEAKER_09]: By the time they began looking for Ashley's body, the sun had gone down and it had begun to rain, making it nearly impossible to see in the heavily wooded area.
[SPEAKER_09]: As a result, Shelton was sent back to the station while officers continued to search for their victim.
[SPEAKER_09]: And they kind of felt like they were being sent on a wild goose chase too.
[SPEAKER_09]: Why would this guy really taking us to the body or is he buying time?
[SPEAKER_09]: Like what is going on?
[SPEAKER_09]: um, after a few hours of searching, investigators spotted a white shape laying in a small clearing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, so we have a video of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a twist that ends again.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty hours.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sunhead set two times now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Gotten down to forty, uh, forty below, or no, sorry, uh, forty to forty degrees.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're running that type of YouTube table.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Raining.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she was absolutely covered in bug bites.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: As they approached, they could see that it was the body of Ashley Reeves.
[SPEAKER_09]: She was laying on her back with her arms, sprayed at weird angles and her eyes staring blankly up at the night sky.
[SPEAKER_09]: As one of the officers moved closer to the body, they noticed something that nobody had expected.
[SPEAKER_09]: She was still breathing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Ashley was alive.
[SPEAKER_09]: For over thirty hours Ashley had been left alone in the woods exposed to the freezing rain and unable to move due to being paralyzed from the neck down but somehow she miraculously survived.
[SPEAKER_09]: Paramedics were called to the scene and Ashley was rushed to the hospital in critical condition although her spinal cord had been severed.
[SPEAKER_09]: The trauma of the attack had left her unable to move or speak.
[SPEAKER_09]: and she showed signs of brain swelling which doctors worried may leave her with permanent brain damage.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that body can footage there was the part of it that I had the hardest time watching because I just I can't imagine finding somebody that that I love in that position just left alone in the woods for thirty hours unable to move freezing getting bitten by bugs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even with them.
[SPEAKER_09]: A live.
[SPEAKER_09]: Strangled three times neck broken.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean for a wrestler he's not that strong.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the teacher.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_09]: So when they came upon the body, if you guys are watching the video, it's the only thing we're going to show of it.
[SPEAKER_09]: So don't worry, but they're like, it looks like that's what it looks like to come upon a strangled dead body.
[SPEAKER_09]: So they were like, okay, we found it.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then they're like, holy shit.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's breathing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what?
[SPEAKER_09]: So the move from getting EMTs and they had to like, they had chainsaws coming through to clear up half, get the EMTs in there, get her out.
[SPEAKER_09]: And even then they were like, we don't know.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, this could be just the end of someone's life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were worried that she might not even survive to make it the hospital because she was in such bad condition at that point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously very much in shock.
[SPEAKER_01]: As Ashley fought for her life in the hospital, detectives went back to the police station to confront Sam Shelton.
[SPEAKER_01]: With his secret already out in the open, he held nothing back.
[SPEAKER_01]: He gave detective Johnson the full story from start to finish.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: After that, it's just like the body felt just went limp.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like this went limp.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: It went limp.
[SPEAKER_11]: It went limp.
[SPEAKER_11]: It went limp.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was just dead.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, do you remember she's alive?
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_11]: I have hot things.
[SPEAKER_11]: I've never done three of that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Her feet were still sort of kind of sort of in the car.
[SPEAKER_11]: And if I had to go down or something, I'll show you.
[SPEAKER_11]: And when she just felt liberated, I didn't know if I had to pull over.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I was like, actually, and she didn't respond.
[SPEAKER_11]: So I just set her back in the car and just kind of pushed her over.
[SPEAKER_11]: I set her in the car.
[SPEAKER_11]: And her neck was kind of [SPEAKER_11]: Like that, it was just, it was kind of like that, and she, I went forward a little bit and I stopped, put the seat belt on her, put the seat belt on, and at that point, the seat belt was on, she was able to stay up right.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think I didn't know what was, yeah, I can't stand for it.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think it freaks me out and choose.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: The conversation was.
[SPEAKER_11]: And what did you, what are you thinking?
[SPEAKER_11]: Did you get the head you was in?
[SPEAKER_11]: At that point, I wanted to brush you to the hospital, but I knew if I took it, if I took it to the hospital.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, of course all fingers are gonna be bad.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, cuz you fucking did it dude Who's very very scared, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who he was scared terrified of that seventeen year old girl [SPEAKER_12]: Fuckin' Lenny from my son, then.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know how you feel about him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I get to pet the rabbits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Following Shelton's confession, details began to emerge that indicated this wasn't the first time he had groomed one of his students.
[SPEAKER_01]: Multiple other young women came forward, claiming that Shelton had made inappropriate advances towards them, and phone records showed that he had been in contact with many other girls at his school.
[SPEAKER_01]: So not even the only girl that he was doing this to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sick fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sam was arrested and charged with the attempted murder of Ashley Reeves.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as he was taken away from the police station, Shelton asked a question that perfectly encapsulated how much of a self-centered monster he truly was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've got a clip of that, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be the fifth clip that Jesse sent.
[SPEAKER_11]: It might be able to get like my contact solution and take my contacts out and toothbrushed.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_11]: I can't think of a context that we did.
[SPEAKER_11]: Am I able to get like, well, private toilet because I can't pee when the people around because my urinary stress disorder?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I don't know what's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll tell them that that's what you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know what they'll be able to do that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I'll be miserable if I can't pee.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I'll be miserable if I can't pee.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I can't pee in front of people.
[SPEAKER_11]: Poor guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: He detectives responses is the best.
[SPEAKER_09]: He just goes, yeah, I don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't think so, man.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't think you get it, dude.
[SPEAKER_09]: And at that point the detective doesn't know what's happening at the scene.
[SPEAKER_09]: So he's just like, bro, what?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: So he had just told him everything that he did.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then it was like, I need to take these contacts out.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, not right now, but I'm just wondering if, like, I can.
[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I feel that.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: They get, they feel like sandpaper don't say.
[SPEAKER_04]: The worst.
[SPEAKER_09]: The worst.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then, like, what if the, you could not, and I mean, could not be in front of other people?
[SPEAKER_09]: And you had to hold it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can tell you from experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a shy bladder and going into basic training.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was actually a concern.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trust me, you eventually go pee and the shyness goes away.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, having the pee sucks and also back then they didn't have dailies, right?
[SPEAKER_12]: Like, I just throw my contacts out.
[SPEAKER_12]: I just take them out and they're just toss them.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's how I'm in my bedroom floor.
[SPEAKER_12]: You just kind of pile up.
[SPEAKER_09]: These are like these are the only ones you have for like.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I see.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, I see what you're saying now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Poor guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Poor poor guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: That is bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, considering how child predators are treated in prison, you should have been more concerned about not shooting right for the rest of his life.
[SPEAKER_09]: Been peeing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Despite having confessed to the brutal attack, he was granted bail and released as he awaited trial.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shelton used his temporary freedom to try and avoid facing the consequences of his action by taking a potentially fatal dose of prescription painkillers, which he washed down with a bottle of yager-myster.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing about this guy that I don't hate.
[SPEAKER_09]: Fuckin' chode, gay ass, piece of shit, pussy, bitch ass motherfucker.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hold on, hold on, let's not.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hold on, let's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a full grown man you drink with.
[SPEAKER_09]: But God damn it, it's some gayship.
[SPEAKER_01]: That said, if you want to sponsor the public.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_09]: I drink it, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: So gayship, but and also for gals.
[SPEAKER_01]: That should be Eager Myster's new tag line for gays and gals.
[SPEAKER_01]: For gays and gals.
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[SPEAKER_12]: The new campaign should just be for gazing out.
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[SPEAKER_12]: That is so perfect.
[SPEAKER_09]: And by the way, you'd be like, well, I'll try it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Do you remember how seltzer was like, yeah, truly, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're like, it's just for girls.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then you're like, I don't sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, unfortunately, the suicide attempt failed and ultimately earned him a few more of criminal charges when he physically assaulted the emergency room staff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So while they were trying to save him, he got in a fight with the emergency room staff.
[SPEAKER_08]: As you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the end, Sam Shelton pleaded guilty to attempted murder and was sentenced to twenty years in prison.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as we will soon find out, this wasn't the end of his story.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so we got a plea deal.
[SPEAKER_09]: The family agreed to it because they just didn't want to go through.
[SPEAKER_09]: They didn't want Ashley to have to go through it.
[SPEAKER_09]: She was still in somewhat of recovery.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she wasn't able to testify during the trial.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was able to speak.
[SPEAKER_09]: They were like, let's just be done with this.
[SPEAKER_09]: After being left for dead in the woods, Ashley faced a long and painful journey to recover from her injuries upon arriving at the hospital.
[SPEAKER_09]: Doctors put her in a medically induced coma to prevent further swelling in her brain.
[SPEAKER_09]: When she finally, when she was finally taken out of the coma, Ashley was unable to move or speak for weeks as her body recovered.
[SPEAKER_09]: from the attack.
[SPEAKER_09]: During this time her family had to care for her as if she was a baby, including feeding her, changing her diapers.
[SPEAKER_09]: Her mom even said it was like another baby book, like first words, first smile, first everything.
[SPEAKER_09]: Over the following months Ashley was forced to relearn how to use her body.
[SPEAKER_09]: It took [SPEAKER_09]: hours and hours of physical therapy for her to regain the ability to talk, feed herself and walk.
[SPEAKER_09]: Amazingly, despite the brutality of the attack, Ashley pulled through against all odds she was able to almost completely recover from her injuries.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, aside from the emotional scars, the only remaining signs of the attack are a minor speech impediment, and we have an interview of Ashley so you can see her now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a fan of the pop?
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that is pop a roach.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know those guys for anything except for the...
This is on the case with Paula's eye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the interview with Elizabeth Smart?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it Paula?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, I did.
[SPEAKER_09]: Everybody knows Paula.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was interviewed by Elizabeth Smart also, who's another very famous person in the true crime scene, because she was the one that was abducted and held captive for nine months by a psychotic couple.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, that was true crime news.
[SPEAKER_09]: She does a lot of interviews with her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now with the clip.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you find it odd when he was text messaging you all the time?
[SPEAKER_07]: You said he kind of wanted to know where you were all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: At the time I didn't, but now that I think about it and it's at the time I didn't think it was weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now I look at it and it's like hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Should have caught on, but it didn't.
[SPEAKER_07]: Should have caught on to what?
[SPEAKER_07]: Would you describe him as being obsessive at that point?
[SPEAKER_00]: He definitely liked to get his way.
[SPEAKER_00]: If he was told no, he would didn't like it at all.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you think there could have been some misunderstanding with Sam about the nature of the relationship and perhaps where it was ultimately going to go?
[SPEAKER_00]: There could have been, but like I said, he didn't like to be told now.
[SPEAKER_00]: If he didn't get his way, then he threw a fit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's what caused it all because who to choose to say what he did, what he did, why he did what he did.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was been thoughts thrown around that maybe he won something more, and I said no.
[SPEAKER_07]: You said he always wanted his way, and if he didn't get it, he'd throw a fit.
[SPEAKER_07]: Was he ever aggressive with you either verbally or physically?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not to me personally, but I've seen like, when he was around his friend, if he, if he wanted to do something and they had other ideas, he would just walk away, they find, I'll go by myself.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did it make you nervous?
[SPEAKER_07]: He was so secretive about the time you spent together?
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say nervous, but it definitely made me think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, because I went to his house, only a couple of times.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he would run in one hour, one time I waited in the living room for him to get something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, I'll be right back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're running upstairs, but nobody was ever allowed an instrument.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd hugged his guy friends, and he said, nobody had ever been in his room.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of thought, hmm, why is that such a big deal?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I kind of wondered what was in his room that he was hiding from that for a buddy.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I must have been kind of creepy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like after I thought about it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hmm, that could be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know if I wanted to know what's in there, you know.
[SPEAKER_07]: You had a crush on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, more or less.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure all those other girls did, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I kind of question why me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was all those other girls.
[SPEAKER_07]: So when people would come up to you after you're being basically left for dead and they say we couldn't believe this guy could do this to you.
[SPEAKER_07]: How do you react inside?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of like I'm still stunned that he would just walk up here but I've never seen him and there's walk up and say stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like yeah [SPEAKER_00]: It's over.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's in the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really don't want to think about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to regroup with the subject because there's nothing really I can't say.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so it kind of divided the small town of like Because everyone loved him they were blaming her They were really just like what what did she do and the weird thing is because of what happened to her she doesn't know what was in his room [SPEAKER_09]: Whoa, A, what was in his room?
[SPEAKER_09]: Be like the first person who could live.
[SPEAKER_12]: I was going to say it's probably like wrestling action figures.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because she lived, you know, he should be worried.
[SPEAKER_09]: But unfortunately, she can't remember because of, you know, losing oxygen and everything, coma, all these things.
[SPEAKER_09]: She can't remember what happened.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, everyone just kind of is left in small town.
[SPEAKER_09]: Illinois's to kind of make their own decision.
[SPEAKER_09]: And this is the time where it was like these young girls, they're just [SPEAKER_09]: seducing my sweet boy and he's like the star of the town.
[SPEAKER_09]: And there was a lot of people that were blaming her not really sure if she was the aggressor and he just did what he had to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there is no situation where that is what you need to do.
[SPEAKER_09]: Since her recovery Ashley has been able to give her sight of the story or at least what she can remember of it, unsurprisingly, the attack left her with large gaps in her memory.
[SPEAKER_09]: What she does remember contradicts some of the details given by Shelton.
[SPEAKER_09]: According to Ashley, the purpose of their meeting was to end the relationship, but it wasn't Shelton that wanted to call it off.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was Ashley.
[SPEAKER_09]: She also denied having any sexual contact with her attacker.
[SPEAKER_09]: Once Shelton began pursuing her to take their relationships to the next level, she chose to cut off contact out of respect for herself and her boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_09]: So that's her memory of it.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's her recollection or that's what she's saying.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're gonna let Ashley say whatever the fuck she wants to say.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because she went through what she went through.
[SPEAKER_09]: She was seventeen.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was almost thirty.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_09]: Whether she's remembering what she believes that happened or if that's what really happened, it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like there's no reason that we should be needing to get her side of the story of like, so did you want to end it or did he want to end it?
[SPEAKER_09]: That's irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, when it comes to snapping a seventeen-year-old girl's neck and then strangling her three times until you were pretty sure she was completely dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dragging her out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of makes all of the events that little irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_09]: But that's what I mean is people wanted to know.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's what they like in the town, his mom, whatever they wanted to know.
[SPEAKER_09]: But like, what was it?
[SPEAKER_09]: Was it you going after my sweet boy or was he going after you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well Ashley's miraculous survival was a blessing to everyone in her life.
[SPEAKER_01]: But unfortunately, our story doesn't have a happy ending.
[SPEAKER_01]: New developments in the case of highlighted one of the many glaring issues with our justice system.
[SPEAKER_01]: In twenty twenty four after serving seventeen years of his twenty-year prison sends, the dollar store Chris Binalau was granted parole and released from prison.
[SPEAKER_08]: He is now the streets.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is now able to return to a normal life while Ashley continues to struggle with the emotional scars left by his heartless actions.
[SPEAKER_12]: You're right, though.
[SPEAKER_12]: He is kind of a dollar store, Chris B.
M.
Locke has been lost.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was close enough.
[SPEAKER_12]: Strangled his family to death.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: Let him Bible's next to him and then hung himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then killed himself with a weight machine or something, right?
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: Do you think he hit him with the crippler crossface?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, do have been why episode eventually, and we'll get into the details of what wrestling moves he used on him to wipe out his family.
[SPEAKER_12]: Have you heard like the weird crisp and wall conspiracies?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like he didn't do it or something.
[SPEAKER_12]: Maybe he didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_12]: And somebody murdered his family and him.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I haven't heard any of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to get into it though.
[SPEAKER_01]: More on a future episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Future episode of crime corner, we'll cover crisp and wall.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah, we did.
[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe maybe that's when we'll allow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let them redeem themselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: That darkness episode possible.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sorry, and you can sit there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, we do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it would be fitting to have a comedian on the show, consider how fucking dark that episode is going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if the news of Shelton being released upset you, good, because it should.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sam's release was the result of a string of controversial decisions made by the Illinois Prisoner Review Board that resulted in at least one fatal attack after a violent offender was granted parole and went on to murder an eleven-year-old boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: The attack forced longtime chairman of the board to resign from his position, and oddly enough, the chairman's name was Donald Shelton.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not, not the relationship.
[SPEAKER_01]: No relation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't find any evidence of them being related.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought it was kind of.
[SPEAKER_12]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_12]: Where do you kill the eleven-year-old after you got out?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_12]: No, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_12]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_12]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_01]: Good enough, poor guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't idea anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if this story makes anyone as angry as it's made us, we've got good news for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can let the Illinois Prisoner Review Board know just how angry you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're the type of person who likes to write letters, you can send them to Illinois Prisoner Review Board, three-nineteen, East Madison Street, Sweet A.
Springfield, Illinois, six-two, seven-zero-one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Angry emails can be sent to PRB.info at Illinois.gov.
[SPEAKER_01]: Angry phone calls can be made using the phone number.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, Rubin.
[SPEAKER_09]: Rubin take it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me a phone call.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's two one seven seven seven eight two seven two seven three and last but not least if you still own a fax machine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can use that to contact the review board as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Their fax number is two one seven five two four zero zero one two [SPEAKER_09]: And if I know anything about the government, they're using the fax machine more than there's any of these others.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most reliable way to get a hold of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, send them some angry faxes or just send them pages and pages of black paper and runs all the ink out of the machine.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's the best way to do it.
[SPEAKER_12]: So he's out.
[SPEAKER_12]: Do they ever, you know, just kind of make peace?
[SPEAKER_09]: No.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's, that's a great, this is a crazy part of the law, right, with the attempted murder stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because I feel like this is more.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is attempted murder, but this was, he thought for sure he killed her.
[SPEAKER_09]: How did an evidence?
[SPEAKER_09]: Didn't tell the mom, like, [SPEAKER_09]: thought for sure like the way he acted after he thought he killed someone.
[SPEAKER_09]: Should have been taken into account, I believe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: You like almost kill someone.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're like, Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_09]: In torture of fight, attempted murder is for, you know, a fight that you're like, dude, I wasn't trying to kill it was right or.
[SPEAKER_09]: armed rob whatever robbery gone bad something like this the only reason he got less times because she's a tough bitch one hundred percent so why does he get true why does he get out just because she's tough as shit he one hundred percent was a murderer went in his mind when he went line dancing that's at least manslaughter right [SPEAKER_09]: It's at least, don't be on the fucking street, dude.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, don't get out three years early.
[SPEAKER_09]: Don't be on the streets ever, I think, ever.
[SPEAKER_12]: He's in prison for seventeen years.
[SPEAKER_12]: He gets a lot of time to think about it.
[SPEAKER_12]: Maybe sure.
[SPEAKER_12]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_12]: You know, becomes, you get it's the other end of it, you know, in prison.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got to be real good friends with what some of the other inmates I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and she has to recover from brain stuff, and he has to recover from butt stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: specifically.
[SPEAKER_09]: A prolapse and you get that as an injury my friend.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know you guys like to search that on the porn hub, but that is an injury.