Episode Transcript
[SPEAKER_00]: First down at the 31 it would be about a 49 yard attempt from here for the Cains.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Beckwill throw gets rid of it quickly and it is all the picked up hitters hitters up there.
[SPEAKER_00]: TJ K-Brush, one fight and was tipped at the line and Beck throws his fourth pick of the game and that one was a killer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Here's toast, Roman and Scoop.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you're Friday night in Miami, went to shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: Canes were outcoached, outplayed, lose 24, 21.
[SPEAKER_06]: By the fuck are we here, Rob?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the recap show.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the recap show there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, it's the recap show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, there's boys.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not important to top of the morning to you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we are.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm six for six by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I picked this loss at the beginning.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think if you depict, I think Rose six for six, so [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I picked this loss at the beginning of the year now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I picked them the win on the recap show or on the week we show on the week we show we did But at the beginning of the year when I looked at it because I thought this was the version of and again I lost sight of the fact that promise coming off a a by week and you guys guys damn good man He's he's he's one more ACC games.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one more ACC and he's than anybody in the last how many years how many years is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a three four year something like that more more ACC and isn't any [SPEAKER_04]: I find, again, I have completely disassociated myself from wins and losses and how my life exists with this football team and happened many years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: What I've liked them the win last night sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do it, am I upset about it?
[SPEAKER_04]: I really don't give a shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm happy to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's one of those things.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do find the immediate, the immediate, [SPEAKER_04]: Is it coaching or is it execution?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it execution or is it coach?
[SPEAKER_04]: And couple of opinions on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've got a couple of opinions.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm happy to get into them now where we can talk later.
[SPEAKER_04]: What else do you guys have to say?
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Darth Thoast.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Darth Thoast is back.
[SPEAKER_06]: Listen, as you would have done, what I would say is scoop to your response to what you just said.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would say play the dilling him audio because that we were outcoached.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everything on that field is Mario.
[SPEAKER_06]: The quarterback now has 11 touchdowns and seven interceptions on the season, so that's just shit.
[SPEAKER_06]: Four interceptions last night, bad interceptions, bro, under thrown balls, just bad interceptions last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: The offensive coordinator who we were raven about couldn't call plays and get himself out of a paper bag last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: like why the insistence on over and over again, when you're not able to run the ball, throwing the ball to the flat on third and fucking 12.
[SPEAKER_06]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just, bro, the entire the fact that we played that badly and lost by three.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you came out of the gate, ass, team was not ready down 14, nothing, just like that, eight minutes in this 14, nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: defense just getting shredded.
[SPEAKER_06]: The entire team was not ready.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Ron says, the Friday night thing, whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that was, that place was hoppin' last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: About 85 to 90% full.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know it was technical and you'll fool out not everybody showed up.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that was just disappointing then.
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought we were past that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the quarterback play.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know where we go for the rest of this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know what we can even count on.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just going to be either he's greater.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's awful.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'll be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm guessing this is going to be good for at least two more losses the rest of the way.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, I'm getting pretty close to what I thought would be.
[SPEAKER_06]: I right now, right now, I question whether or not this can even make the ACC title again.
[SPEAKER_06]: or they don't control their own destiny.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know they don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know they don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they can win out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think you had lost a Louisville in this Louisville is not the bad loss to Louisville.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they're a good team played poorly very good, but what we didn't talk, we're not talking about Syracuse from last year, who had a pretty good last year.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not talking about losing to NC State.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not talking about losing to one R U N C team, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was lost team to team.
[SPEAKER_04]: Louis was a damn good team.
[SPEAKER_04]: Louis was five and one.
[SPEAKER_04]: They lost an overtime to UVA, who's only got one loss.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they gave up two offensive touchdown.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they gave up two defensive touchdowns in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, he's outpicked.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like a little turns really, really, really good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, at the top of Louis, you've got your Kenny Dilling him, accountability.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got Jeff Rom, who's really, really gays a damn good coach.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he will outskate.
[SPEAKER_04]: He will outskine your ass from here to high Sunday.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's a press now.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to talk about all the bro.
[SPEAKER_06]: You called in the pregame show linebackers in coverage.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, I'm destroyed.
[SPEAKER_06]: A to mob.
[SPEAKER_06]: Destroyed.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's one of these things where the one of the sentences that Jacoby top.
[SPEAKER_04]: A ran some stuff early on obviously because that's how it was teamed up.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were never seen film.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it caught us off guard.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: is called preparation.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's called coaching.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's called, they have a tendency to do this defensively.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see if we can catch him off guard early, quick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what we can do to make this a little bit more of an evenly balanced game, because athletically, aside from Bell, who is going to be an all-per-probable.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we had soups, I do, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So the ability to the ability for them to level it out is scheming, it's coaching, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's part of the, is it coaches versus execution of the players, there's a lot more to it than that, but I don't know, that's how it got ugly early.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel that we have a ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to entangle it all piece by piece because that's what that lasted to us.
[SPEAKER_02]: It put like a jumbled mess in our souls, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've talked about out coach and scheming and quarterback.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to try to pull on strands until we kind of come to a consensus.
[SPEAKER_02]: First things first, you mentioned this scoop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about the scheme.
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt there was like this like apex parallel like Predator's facing off against each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: One wins on culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Might be tries to win on culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do it with physicality in the trenches.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do it trying to run it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They try to be physical, Mario Chris the ball when you close your eyes and you picture me.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's pounding his head.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to bring it to him brother.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to bring it to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have Brom.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is site the apex predator of schematics.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to show you things he hasn't looked before.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, listen, if you know what that guy's capable of, you shouldn't be surprised that you're not surprised set the failure floor early.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's going to show us things we've never seen before.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we do will have a least a little bit of a loose plan for it because that's his ML.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what happened was, is when you can outscamatect them and beat them to the punch and put them 14, you took a lot of the physicality out of them, too, with your scheme on defense.
[SPEAKER_02]: So next thing you know, you got out coach, you did, it's clear as day.
[SPEAKER_02]: The film were halfway through on student of the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very clear.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I found it interesting because we said it enough, like, hey, [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Miami, your physical, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is how you're going to have to win in late months.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you need a defense and a running game that travels.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, but when you can't win on culture ball, when that 17th inside run doesn't work or the extension off the RPO game or they're starting to kind of pin their ears and put you back, then you expose yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is, when the culture disappears from the University of Miami, [SPEAKER_02]: the schematics remain.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when Brahm took your lunch because he won once he was able to negate your physicality.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that it's hard to do because it's not like everybody has the offensive chops and the defensive chops that Louisville brought to the table.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very well coached that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've always liked them, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're in dog fights the last three years.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's one more game say anybody at ACC doesn't get the credit that he deserves.
[SPEAKER_02]: The boys, when it came to that string and me untangling it, I'm just telling you right now, Miami couldn't outfizzicle Louisville.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when they couldn't, they got exposed.
[SPEAKER_02]: They looked pedestrian, big time.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was my exact, when I wanted to talk about it earlier, if you want to talk about execution or you want to talk about coaching, if you have potentially have potentially.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I have superior talent to where you can out muscle them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you can beat them man on man.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you're getting beat per se because of schematics.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is that coaching execution?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's getting out coached.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's that was the exact thing I was going to talk about.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just, [SPEAKER_04]: We have the same brain, well done.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you can't, I know there's a lot of people saying, well, it's execution, you know, it's fall starts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, what happened when?
[SPEAKER_04]: But when last year for most of the year and for the first few games this offense and the formations look like an Alabama team from saving from seven years ago where they never moved.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was as professional as you can get.
[SPEAKER_04]: it was business.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, they cannot get out of their own way.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've got more penalties kicking them right and then you would even think they could have, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just a constant barrage of stepping on your own crank.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very back to where it was however many years ago after being what we thought was business.
[SPEAKER_02]: quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: If the OB be famous, what we'd be smoke detector was sounding and beeping in the background, we talked about the penalties.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did have a little, I did have a little, I did have a couple days ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we'd said to a listen, you like to physical people, you just need to get a little bit more creative.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to be able to bail out your team, especially in these moments when you're not getting out of your own way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So those two were sounding and those two bits you picked up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, that falls back on coaching.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dilly Dilly, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to take ownership, ultimate ownership of everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now later on, we'll talk about a quarterback's ownership because he's got his own things.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got his own up to, but that's where we're at.
[SPEAKER_02]: Toast, talk to me, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was very good.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was very happy to hop into the, for me, the biggest issue in last night's game, the biggest takeaway outside of, yeah, we can delve into the schematics and being outcoached.
[SPEAKER_06]: For me, it was the performance of the quarterback.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you threw four in ourceptions and you lost 24-21.
[SPEAKER_06]: We should have won this game.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now he's got 11 touchdowns, seven interceptions, not a good enough ratio to be who we thought he was going to be.
[SPEAKER_06]: The, the, it's, it's a stunning downturn compared to what we had last year.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it is just tough to watch.
[SPEAKER_04]: It honestly, that was, you're going through the video right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: You talked to, I don't know if you got through everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: We talked to me about the picks, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I know all of go ahead.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the first one, you know, sometimes you say it's on the quarterback, sometimes you say it's just a great play.
[SPEAKER_04]: The first one was a fantastic play.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess that was that was really it was a great ball.
[SPEAKER_04]: I also don't understand how he he doesn't get call for P.
I there because it was a jump ball as the center has just jump all when I watched [SPEAKER_02]: step back again, like when I watch it back again and we just put it on the timeline we looked at it and what we're going to introduce on student and game at the original voice channel is we're going to put a color coded system for every interception and I'm going to take my best guess and we're going to formulate our best guess and we're going to say hey listen to green interceptions not really on that like you you've seen them wide receiver goes right in the hands tipped up and then it goes to that you can't put that really on the quarterback they all go in the quarterback understand that one in particular it was weird because right he makes it to great play the lineback or yes there's p i on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he kind of did throw it where it was, you know, double the triple covered, why not run at the top of the screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to put that on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they blew the call.
[SPEAKER_02]: Two things can be true at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: The second one is definitely on one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's under thron him all day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Paul needs to go out in the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: I poured down.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to blitz.
[SPEAKER_04]: He had no word.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has blitz.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got blown up on that play.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to put in an orange still on the quarterback.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm going to reference a Mike Leach thing on student the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mike Leach said, if you're getting sacked in a quarterback, that's always on the quarterback.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's the quarterback's job to make sure he's protected.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you weren't protected on that call and you do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And on the last one, it's going to be tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he mentioned it in a presser.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a green one because I saw it immediately.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, they blitzed.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have a hot to the outside.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your tight end needs to go to the flat.
[SPEAKER_02]: He turned inside his shoulder.
[SPEAKER_02]: He put up there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He ran the wrong route.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, quarterback, you stole through the ball, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though he ran the wrong route, that's not as egregious as the other ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when it all comes down and you're looking at it as a color, it's on Carson back.
[SPEAKER_02]: The color is going to be more warm than it is green and and that's what we can walk away from because all the time and narrative is the narrative he threw for intercepts those are always going to be on that, but I have a little quarterback son and if I'm going to talk to him about like, hey, this is what happened this would have that's what happened on those intercepts.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, and, and I appreciate all that for Sharon's kind of what I thought.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I had a conversation.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was, I was not, I was driving home last night.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I did not pay much attention.
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know as my wife and girls read home and stuff was out of her mind.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, I think it's because you weren't there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, I had to take over the, but we had a good conversation this morning.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she asked me a very valid question, [SPEAKER_04]: Why are we calling that play in that situation, knowing that we're in fuel-go-range, knowing that Carson Beck has thrown three picks already, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Knowing that the [SPEAKER_04]: The odds of scoring there, the odds of completing passes as the field condenses is not in our favor, especially with someone who's had a pretty poor evening so far.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why do we not run the ball there?
[SPEAKER_04]: Why do we not at least try to put yourself in a position to [SPEAKER_04]: go to overtime, I know you'd like to win it in regulation.
[SPEAKER_04]: But these are all, this was the conversation, these are all the questions I was asked this morning because she wants to know my opinions and I find it incredibly valid.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know my take on it, my take on as you should, for the boy, you should try to win.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I completely understand her position there, which I'm sure that a lot of the fan base is asking too, so I'm curious on your take.
[SPEAKER_02]: hot hot so on that last play and I I saw it immediately after I was I know he turned to the inside which I But no, what I'm saying is that's not the play so the play is something that's superseded it when Louisville decided to Blitz they tried to know that nightmare and that is if they blitz we have an answer for it and that is Get Elijah lofting out until flat is the safe safe successful play and get into the flat the promise you didn't get into the flat He let it up feel that led to the pick [SPEAKER_02]: That's on you, young man, but that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a plan in case we have a nightmare.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think that was the original play.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do not.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was when used one, we say hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, OK, look, we're coming out, ace gun, all verticals.
[SPEAKER_02]: All four guys are running verticals.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, if they zero blitz or if they won blitz or something like that, we're going to hit hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go ahead and get the running back into the flat.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that was.
[SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't the play.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Carson Beck did the right thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but he did the wrong thing at the same time and again, credit Louisville there because when it mattered, they brought pressure and they pressured our guy who threw three interceptions.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a perfectly time blitz and it caught the University of Miami doing something stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what led to the ball game.
[SPEAKER_06]: Period.
[SPEAKER_06]: So man, the last last last four games, including South Florida, he's got seven touchdowns and seven interceptions.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just not good enough, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just not good enough.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's not gonna get you where you need to go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not what we thought we were getting, all the big game Carson stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was a huge game last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he, yeah, it just wasn't good, bro.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm trying to, I don't want to destroy the kid, but when you're making millions of dollars, you're gonna get for it and crap and you perform like that, you just all are.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he deserves it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this was the analogy that I came to my head last night right when I went right before I closed my eyes and I hit the pillow on my that was a game and again, I think things are changes for me because now I have a little son that's playing this position right and I try to take it from like, hey, just advice, but I would say, hey, if this is my son, I'm like, look.
[SPEAKER_02]: As a man right when when you show emotions, especially online, it's like putting, it's like putting blood in the water, you know if you say something emotionally online, what what are other men naturally going to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they might take some shots.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them will, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though men have this mental health, why do I say that as a backdrop?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because what you did last night, it wasn't like you threw an intersection in a game-breaking intersection, or like one you were constantly game because of one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You threw four intersections.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what that did was you have now put blood in the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have chumbed the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have invited everybody to take shots.
[SPEAKER_02]: All the naysayers are now circling you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you are in the middle of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that came did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's not be, your high-spin chances are completely gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is where you are now.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is where you are.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he has two choices.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the successful or unsuccessful nature of the University of Miami-Mooing Ford is squarely on his right arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Squarely, there is no backup coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the answer or he's not the answer.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what is my advice to him?
[SPEAKER_02]: If this is me talking to my son, you got two choices, son.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can sit there idly by and let the sharks attack you and take you out or you become one of the sharks.
[SPEAKER_02]: You now got to say, hey, look, we're going to rally this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to go ahead and be the out for ball office.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to turn into the bigger shark to fight off the rest of the sharks, because reality is you are in the mix of a shark frenzy now, son.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing you could do about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've through four interceptions to the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's here.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing you can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't run from it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the stench.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's attracted from miles around surrounded by sharks.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that game did to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't just one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't to you were count against Florida right one two three four.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now a week later and such as life it's one two three four intersections.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's tough because you can lose a locker room really quick as a quarterback off the nights of something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the first thing he's got to do in my advice, better lock in.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what the advice is that you better study film a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_02]: You better stay after practice a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_02]: You better have the best week of practice you need to bust your ass.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you think you think after foreign exceptions, you're going to do the exact same thing you did the week before putting an exact same amount of work.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to work quadruply hard to win the respect of your team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you do it again, [SPEAKER_02]: It's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has another guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has another multiple interception game where he's the is the soul cause because he is one of the soul causes why we lost because the coaches take blame too, but you're quarterback those foreign receptions.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where the games.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where the game was lost last night, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can lose.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to I want to go back and say that I think I've been right all along.
[SPEAKER_04]: In terms of about this wider silver room.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you don't think it's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got two guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, why is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it Carson back?
[SPEAKER_04]: Not finding your guys?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it the fact that, I mean, Josh Moore had two touchdowns, uh, and a great game three, three games ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: Haven't heard his name called since.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hasn't caught a ball since.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that Josh Moore, all of a sudden, isn't any good?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I find that tough to believe.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got JoJo Trader, who Shannon Dawson says had a fantastic week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't wait for him to top it off on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_04]: Saturday, Friday, whatever, fuck day it was.
[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't get a catch.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not even sure he stepped on the grass.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got two dudes who have been your two dudes for six weeks.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got two guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got Mary and also he had five catches.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: How many people do you have in the year?
[SPEAKER_04]: But the allies are wrong to do doesn't catch anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't throw to him.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they do not.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't use him ever correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're telling me that you can't match him up in a mismatch on a safety or a linebacker.
[SPEAKER_04]: He is not utilized ever.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got two guys that you throw the ball to.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now granted, they're both great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Malachi Tony is an all-American.
[SPEAKER_04]: He might be an all-American.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care what class he is.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you've got CGDainless, who has been an absolute superstar coming over from LSU.
[SPEAKER_04]: Aside from that, is it the, I don't know why, but nobody else.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the gaps can intensify just based off what you were talking about before in terms of the interceptions because one of the interceptions Yeah, he threw it on their throne, but a wide receiver's got to be able to battle that ball You've got to cut out the right side of me a bit more, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even talk that was that was no chance It was a bad ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a red ball It was a red interceptions off that's it, but it was soft so as a quarterback I'm like dude fight for me And then you have Elijah Lofton at the end of the game running a wrong route [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he did.
[SPEAKER_02]: He ran the wrong hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now do you think I've as a quarterback am I going to have more trust in that or am I going to have the trust in the guy that I literally throw a simple screening runs 60 yards.
[SPEAKER_02]: He makes me look great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's the natural principle of life with four hot stones right one three or cold one or hot if one's hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not touching that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm touching the other three.
[SPEAKER_02]: In this case, we only have two to our two are burning them to a rewarding them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's I think you're just going to see that gap intensify scoop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just because they're playing better than me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that crazy to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other guys just can't keep up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here's the challenge to the rest of the wide receiver and tight in group.
[SPEAKER_02]: Catch up like those guys are so far and away outperforming you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we just talked about two plays that burn your quarterback is because one of you ran the wrong fucking route and the other one can't fight for a ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's on him too, but that's on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Run the right route.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: That cost your team the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hot run to the flat.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta get called out too.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you're just gonna have to keep gap because I'm not throwing you the ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's me though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, you ran the wrong route.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I had a bad game.
[SPEAKER_02]: You ran the wrong route.
[SPEAKER_06]: Josh Moore has hasn't had a catch in South Florida where he had three catches for two touchdowns.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I said.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he hasn't had a call since.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, hasn't had a call since and you're telling me that there is some good Josh Moore's a damn good receiver.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what are we doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the kind of stuff that's the kind of stuff that I don't quite understand with you know and I also don't know what's going on with Joe Joe.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't tell me, you can't tell me that, I mean, I, I bounced it, pisses me off.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't tell me every single week he's ready to go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every single week, it's the same bullshit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every single week he's ready to go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great week of practice, he's ready to go.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's ready.
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw him playing a ball game.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_04]: But every week he's ready to go until the game starts.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he's not ready to go.
[SPEAKER_04]: So is this the whole the whole the whole dog house thing?
[SPEAKER_04]: I find a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm, I'm not so sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: So to Josh Moore catch a couple of touchdown passes, think he's kind of hot shit and then they put him in the dog house.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you haven't seen him since so I don't I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's speculative scoop.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a real I know and it seems like our receivers are in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But why, why is it so, is it the culture you can't have at, you, it's, you got to be, to be able to get any burn.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying having two guys in a passing game because you're going to need to passing it because now now, the blueprints there, the blueprints there, FSU showed you the blueprint.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to take away the running game and Carson back had a nice game against them, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Louisville, we're going to take away the running game.
[SPEAKER_04]: Carson back did not have a nice game and you've got, you only have to cover two guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: At LA, Louisville, Rookwick, Toast, Louisville just did the plus one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Florida State tried to take running game away, but they couldn't really control the big play over the top.
[SPEAKER_02]: Louisville was able to take the run game away and take the big play over the top, forced Carson back in the day.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have no intermediate passing able, so ever.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_06]: We did wear underdog last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: So CJ had 71 and their kicker had one.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we picked our $50 paid out of 111.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that was nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that's the the extent of our victories last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, man, it's just uh, but yeah, I don't know where.
[SPEAKER_06]: The why you would think that there'd be a lot of opportunity for these other guys because you would think that Malachi is getting a lot of attention on the defensive side as well as CJ.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there'd be someone running around that's, you know, going against a shitty ass and nickel corner.
[SPEAKER_06]: Joe Joe, somebody got nobody else and why we're why and the other thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I sure he's a great kid, but from an athletic standpoint, you can do so much more [SPEAKER_06]: but they're just insistent to balance the guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I don't understand it, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who ran the wrong route at the very end?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was lofted.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, it could be coming down to a trust.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
You got to be able to actually cut the offense to where we call it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this isn't new to football.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a blitz you run hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're supposed to run this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's immediately what Carson Beck.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a live.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that is not the right route.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is not usually typically what you see.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, and I him peeled the inside.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, yeah, they're trying to run that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they ran it again last night.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I'm like, what did that play?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I look, it was no bunch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, no, but what here's what's happening offensively in Shannon Dawson and I did, I never called this out ever on our history of our podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who your analysts are at the University of Miami.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys are on notice because the thing you got a real eyes and you got to see the deficiencies because this is an adjustment season right one of the best things I've ever heard in this years and years ago there was a high school coach won a lot of state championships everything I did it goes after six games well for them they play 10 games season after five games I basically throw everything out the window and I reinvent myself because too much film is out there [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there was too much film.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have some warning things.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got two games in a row where you're running game.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot riding on this season.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to tell me that this is the running game that you think is going to work.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to tell me that there's things that like that that you can't do.
[SPEAKER_02]: You give one jet sweep to Malachi.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying jet sweep yourself out of the whole situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you give one jet sweep.
[SPEAKER_02]: You run outside in the scores of touchdown.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the rest of the time, you're just going to RPO and attach things on that, and you think it's going to successfully work, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you got to take a little bit of a hit there, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, we've seen things we haven't seen, so you don't have a plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: To me, this was an audition for the University of Miami, and they failed it, because I felt like Brom came in with a playoff caliber, worthy game plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, I'll play off where they get like you have two weeks of pair.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to win, you got to get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you win this game, you go to playoffs, you're winning national championship.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what are you trying to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is your apex?
[SPEAKER_02]: What does it look like?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's what it looked like.
[SPEAKER_02]: You had two weeks of pair for University of Miami.
[SPEAKER_02]: You stunted their past rush on the offensive side of the ball by getting the ball out quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, analysts.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't think that teams are going to try to do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't think at a certain point, Louisville wins at the end of the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why, what did they do?
[SPEAKER_02]: What did they do?
[SPEAKER_02]: They raise their hands.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they tipped the ball, did they not?
[SPEAKER_02]: That last play was tipped because what is their coach tell them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, when we're blitzing, a hot ball needs to come out quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: So guess what we need to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to raise our hands and block the ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is coaching.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is somebody making it down to the minutia and understand this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did we ever try to block Miller Moss when he threw 30 balls within two seconds?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, what were we trying to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, we were just bullheaded, trying to go ahead and make a sack.
[SPEAKER_02]: At a certain point, they're not letting you do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lift your hands, like I don't did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you didn't understand, like when you, when do you flip the switch to be like guys, this isn't gonna work, they're not doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: When we get them in a third along situation or something, like that will pin our ears, but they're not giving us up to you to get up feel.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're gonna look to try to bat some balls down because you bat one of those balls down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Bell takes a drag, that's two feet in front of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're actually in a good position to bat that down at the line of skirmish, not even trying to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is after they've done this play like 15 times.
[SPEAKER_02]: you guys aren't taking you failed the minutia because why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because this is what happens with Shannon Dawson.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have cam ward bailing out, buddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He bailed you out of a lot of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We, we, we chronicle it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you don't have cam ward bailing out and you don't have a running game bag yelling out, guess what you got a rely on up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to do this more.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't just, out physical out everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't physical yourself out of every life situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might think it's possible, but you, you lost to a guy who is far superior in schematics.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, I don't know where the answer is, but they need to find one quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it starts with getting a run game because obviously, toast, I don't think Carson and Beck is the answer to just carry the shoulder.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to be a look, we talk about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to be able with him.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to be able to have a play action pass game.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to be able to run the ball to allow things to open up for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the reality.
[SPEAKER_04]: When you can't run the football, [SPEAKER_04]: You don't have that option.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone's just pinning their ears back to even rush in three they man they dropped eight all night And they said go ahead.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've right they pinched in the eight apps because they know That's the only a if anyone doesn't know is the only place Miami runs the football [SPEAKER_04]: In between the guards, if you guys haven't seen enough by now, we haven't been talking about it's only in between the guards.
[SPEAKER_04]: They ran a few off tackle against, I don't know what team does.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you can sell Florida's super successful plays actually.
[SPEAKER_04]: Move the chains from first and 10 or second until whatever it was.
[SPEAKER_04]: They ran a one time last night.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fletch got cold for a whole Marty Brown.
[SPEAKER_04]: They brought it back.
[SPEAKER_04]: They never run outside the A gap.
[SPEAKER_04]: because they're going to line up and they're going to beat you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what's coming.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know it's coming.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're bigger and better than you.
[SPEAKER_04]: And people are starting to show that, you know, they're smarter than you maybe.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're 34 minutes in.
[SPEAKER_06]: We haven't mentioned the yes and now.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I don't want to have a being excusable once again, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can grasp the ACC officials taking a touchdown off the North Malachi, Tony on the pun, which was garbage.
[SPEAKER_06]: The entire first two touchdown drives for Louisville, the right tackle jump in early every single time with Ruben Bannon is face not called fucking once.
[SPEAKER_06]: Listen, it's just it's just it's not an excuse, but man, it is [SPEAKER_06]: The ACC Albert O'Reverran is the head of the officials.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was fired by the NFL because he sucked at the NFL.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like they need to give him a soft landing spot.
[SPEAKER_06]: And man, the official, since he has been in charge over the last like basically seven, eight years, it has been absolute garbage.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that punt last night was an absolute abomination.
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody sent me the actual rule book and it was like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not an acceptable fair.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be over your head, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be over your head.
[SPEAKER_02]: I say this and these ACC teams, if you're listening, people who could have potential to induce an enforced change, you need to start finding them.
[SPEAKER_02]: you need to say no, absolutely not because when you when we show you the film and it's egregious air after air and you miss a a pertinent call, you blow calls or you do this, we're either going to go ahead and try to change the rule and we have to be able to like you can't have certain things for viewable and certain things not reviewable.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have certain things that are not reviewable because you don't want to hurt a rep's feelings.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you need to be able to let me find this again to some.
[SPEAKER_02]: because you're costing my university potential millions of dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: I miss a playoff spot, you know, millions of dollars you cost me, and that's A.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you need to start levying finds against them, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And number two is you have to put grades out.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to have ACC account of the entire grades and baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, after last night's performance, this crew got a, you have PFF grades.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are they the most protected species of posses on the planet?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why does everybody else want accountability?
[SPEAKER_02]: You have it in government.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have it here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have it in a private sector.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have it here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the referees are made of glass.
[SPEAKER_02]: Their mom and dad had glass balls.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they're made of glass and you can't touch them, you can't talk to them, you can't say anything that they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the most egregious offense and your costing teams millions and millions of dollars weekend and weekend with no accountability.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gross.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I know you were watching the games because you haven't seen the whole game yet, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because you were driving the entire game.
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't see that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So let me ask you a question, Rob, because we were shocked in the stadium.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was a fourth and one at the end of the third court.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then we come back to start the fourth court.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it was first and ten for Louisville.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they just, and we were told that there was a review in the show.
[SPEAKER_06]: He got the action, but did they actually, but did they actually get the first down?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it didn't seem, oh, they didn't get 100.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I thought of me, I thought of Shamar Browns call when they called him down on on basically they said all his momentum at stop and they took a touchdown off the board against UF.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want this is the same damn play?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is the same damn play.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whistle.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they didn't blow whistle.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like we've seen this earlier in a year when you blew the whistle, but now you're not going to blow the whistle and say he didn't have that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, the Shamar Brown thing should have been like, Hey, we need to do this and you got past a certain threshold.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're finding you 50 grand for a grieges performances referees.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to protect our agencies.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they made 50 grand.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't think I think there's I think there's I think there's an easy fix that.
[SPEAKER_04]: because you're asking for way too much, you know that all of that was never going to it none of that's ever going to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think there's an easy fix to this like that play last night with Malachi, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: If that rough thinks the potentially that is a that he called for for a catch, he did it illegally.
[SPEAKER_04]: there's nothing that has to be done other than he drops a flag out of his out of his pocket and he lets the play continue and then you can go back and say it's a touchdown we're going to review this they're going to go back they're going to look at and you're like no that's definitely not a flag or yeah that's a flag that's five yards from where he's when where he caught the ball put it back the minute you blow the whistle everything's fucked [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, everything is screwed, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's no reason for that guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no reason for that guy to blow the whistle.
[SPEAKER_04]: You think it's illegal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Drop your flag.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let the play that continue and then review it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to review it anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's an easy fix for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the type of stuff that drives no such because the place never should have been called dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can review it because it's not called that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, momentum calls them in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to let them go to a part of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we need if you're not playing a whistle, there's no player safety issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's as if it was like, well, he did race his hand well enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, of course, once you blow the whistle, there's nothing to review at that certain point.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, like, again, it's a blown call.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, I agree with what you say in scoop, just don't blow the whistle next time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like you do momentum, just do it, just let it go, let it go, and then put the fly down and then review it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree, that's that's stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the fact that it mattered remains, they blew the call.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they blow calls week after week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just saw just popped out a little stack here.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is this is a mess.
[SPEAKER_06]: So Louisville had 365 seven yards on offense 249 of them Isaac Brown and Chris Bell.
[SPEAKER_06]: those two guys in the entire game it was those two guys just destroying us three keys to the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't let them ring their bell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't let Isaac Bronch get outside and don't let him become Randy Moss and Miller Moss equivalent.
[SPEAKER_02]: You knew who their best guys were and in in a and in situations you got to account for their best guys in the Miami hurricanes did it again outskimed outcoach.
[SPEAKER_02]: From getting his playmakers the ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you lost.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, all you want to talk about coaching real quick or not coaching or execution.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rubin Bane.
[SPEAKER_04]: One solo tackle.
[SPEAKER_04]: You think Rubin Bane all of a sudden sucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: You think Rubin Bane didn't show up last night.
[SPEAKER_04]: You think Rubin Bane is too slow to play Louisville.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they scheme against his ass is what they did.
[SPEAKER_04]: They scheme to allow Rubin Bane not to beat you or not to be involved.
[SPEAKER_04]: at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what that's called coach coach.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I laugh?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I laugh because I've been highlighting in all year.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's due to the game is when Miami goes three by one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm talking about like three or on one side, one or on one side.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was one time they had went and it was actually a key message or on the one side by himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're literally because you were so far out they didn't even block them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just ran the other way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you want to negate somebody like all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to go right out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just he was after by himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then next, you know, they just had too many hats on the other side of the hats or like, thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, at this point of the year, film has compiled, you need to go ahead and do, I give, I'm going to give you a, uh, [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_02]: I want the University of Miami to say, I want a team to say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're going to say that.
[SPEAKER_04]: We never saw that coming.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just want something to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not who we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: You saw it on the two-port conversion.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've been saving that all year.
[SPEAKER_06]: Listen, listen.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to learn a lot, I mean, in scoop made a point.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we got Stanford at home on Saturday Saturday night shouldn't be where you should be able to get through.
[SPEAKER_06]: God damn my hope, but bro, this game in a couple of weeks in Dallas, this is going to be.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, it's going to be the game and then in Dallas.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's going to be the game.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wait, it's in, yeah, I send you this is going to be the game where this coaching staff has to show what they got.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's going to be the coaching staff game.
[SPEAKER_02]: You win the next two games, you're seven and one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be eight for eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to have an one for eight.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no margin of errors.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, let's watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to win.
[SPEAKER_02]: I still personally think if you go 11 and one.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know, I'm sure that games are there all here.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're here.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: We threw four in their sections.
[SPEAKER_02]: You chum the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think at 11 and one, you're not keeping my amni out of the playoffs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if they don't play for the ACC chip, but you gave my stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, I'm probably working to get a season.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, we're going to drop down to what like 12 13 all for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be in the 20s.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you go ahead and win the rest of the thing, cause football's health, they're scout there.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're at 12 or 13, there's 12 teams again in a playoffs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm not saying you're gonna get that first run by, but I'm saying you can probably still get into playoffs and not win the ACC championship game.
[SPEAKER_02]: And not even a playboy kind of dumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you have to win out, but you have to win out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, well, that's what I said.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no two loss ACC team is getting into anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you have to win out now.
[SPEAKER_04]: You are, you are, let's, let's only weigh two loss issues.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't get some of the people in the conference.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was somebody who allowed to say about people who picked us to get eight and four this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you guys, I don't think this part is debatable.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think this part's debatable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not, oh, you know, this is not a sentimental win.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not sentimental be yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going to lose though, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going to have your one loss, [SPEAKER_02]: You want to lose earlier and you want to lose this way now, and not like you did last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: And to a good team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Louisville's not going to be a bad loss.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was early enough that there's so much more body of that this could be in the past.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, it's incredibly.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is one of the hardest things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Think about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the hardest things to do on this earth now it is in this landscape of college football is to win every game.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's be honest, it's relatively impossible with how good all of these teams are and the parody out there and the ACC is it's all the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: ACC picked well, it's all the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: They eat each other up, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're their own worst enemy when it comes to that stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's bound to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: Your bound to lose a game, the odds are not in your favor of not losing a game, not even [SPEAKER_04]: So, you can see how this goes, because you could certainly lose a few more.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you went 11 and 2 and lost the ACC championship, like you get in and you lose.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, you might not get into the playoffs, but if you're 11 and 1 and go play.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you win, you're probably getting into the playoffs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, if you're gonna lose, lose now, but, but, we've seen this episode before, and you talked about rat poison, Mario, Crystal Ball, you took two jugs, and you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: you're just ingested all the rotten poison in the, like, you're, you're, you're just ingested at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: You said stay away from it, but then you turned around with a game plan that you were like, hey, we're just going to go ahead and we, we, you drank your own coolie, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: At the, you, you thought you were just going to out bully them and just take the W at home because we're more physical brother.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, and yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of [SPEAKER_04]: But we don't, we could win out and not get in, which is wild to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a different patch on your mind, you're not even worrying about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a different, like what that hell, let's talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Vanderbilt stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll talk about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've missed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can have three losses in the SEC.
[SPEAKER_04]: The big team you're getting at.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know what's the, is it, here's a quick question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it easier to just stay where you are and maybe try to lose one game to two games at the max or do you go to a different conference where you have the luxury to maybe lose one more I don't know I don't know what the answer I don't know what the easier road to victory is going to be because literally they're both hard right you got to lose less games in the ACC or big 12 you can lose more games in the SEC but apparently the competitions better so I don't know is it apples apples.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who knows.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: We got to stand for coming up Saturday at home seven o'clock.
[SPEAKER_06]: Start times.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see how well they handle FSU today.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, FSU is that that's a 10 30 game tonight.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to watch that one.
[SPEAKER_06]: Go into the one we've got in our hands for next week.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to send major things and love out to one of our favorite listeners, Joe, who was nice enough to invite us to that game last night.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's why I was I was over their great, great dude drives to the games from [SPEAKER_06]: What it means he lives in this is hippie comes out of the games.
[SPEAKER_06]: What?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we love you Joe.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Joe.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Great dude.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why right dude.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that was a good time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, why?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because he loves the games and why does he do that to himself?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he comes down here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, like a condo says for a couple of weeks.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think boxes a couple of games.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel bad for him.
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel bad for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel bad for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel bad Mario should pay for his season tickets for the reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for my son.
[SPEAKER_02]: He took it apparently hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a message this morning like, yeah, your son took that loss hard because I literally just had that go, I go, Franco, I bet at this long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: This Miami team can be special.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it doesn't really.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or did you see or like, I'm lying.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was like, I was like, [SPEAKER_02]: This could be one of those teams.
[SPEAKER_02]: We could be special, Franco, and then next to you, no, with this, this shitty thing because of the type of loss of what happened, especially at the quarterback position, where you didn't feel like you had holes a week ago, you have a huge hole there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the most important position, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was talking to somebody this morning.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, he goes, yeah, toast seemed a little upset last night.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, this is why I handled the Twitter account during games.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is, this is the exact reason because I like, I wasn't on it and then I jumped that I was like, oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like in me, I'm like, oh no, oh no, this is, this is really, really bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is really not good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's like, oh boy, there we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: On there too.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, we all were, we all had tweets on the OBB account.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it just ghost?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was up to.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I, you could tell which one's for yours.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, which one's for his.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Off could sell.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know which ones are mine.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's go down the list.
[SPEAKER_06]: Did you just always count on the first thing you've done?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's let me just go ahead and I have a stylistic give away that you always know it's me if you Yeah, you know it's mine because I do this I tweet a certain way correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I my first one was I am So I know you like you just to think people make people think it's you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I started off with I'm so fucking annoyed Yeah, that a couple of you guys hopped in then I called talked about the note not calling false starts [SPEAKER_06]: I ripped the D.I.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cuck.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, sorry, CC.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'll rip it on.
[SPEAKER_06]: Use this name, so that was nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was well done.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm the one that threw out there.
[SPEAKER_06]: We are not winning this game in the third quarter.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that did very well.
[SPEAKER_06]: 27,000.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look, see, here's the thing though.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the present time at that current time, we weren't winning that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we were 100% accurate.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's, it was.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody said we're going to win the game when the clock strikes zero.
[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't say that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is probably the one that piss people off of years doing this pod waiting for this shit to turn around and this is what they're giving us out coached again, fuck off eat all the dicks.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, I saw that one in real time.
[SPEAKER_05]: That wasn't me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then after that, it was not a house fuck all of them.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then after that in all caps, we were the greatest team ever laughed out loud.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because we got the fumble return.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And first thing I thought to myself, when he picked that one, he got tackled.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, well, fuck.
[SPEAKER_04]: He needed to score there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_06]: We did score though.
[SPEAKER_06]: Listen, this is why I don't want to.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is why I shouldn't be going to games.
[SPEAKER_06]: I should be with this stream.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's all my fault because I was unavailable to uh, to hand it really is for the all of this on scoop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I even thought it would it's I would have done more tweets.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought scoop was there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm just kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did properly prepare after a buy a week.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were miss we are coaching was not very good.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's the show.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank God.
[SPEAKER_06]: No need to talk about this bullshit anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, until Saturday or I'm sorry, we'll do another show on Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah [SPEAKER_06]: be helpful.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be helpful.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was getting pissed for Mani from ruining it for all of us.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I actually Mani go ahead and do this and help us out.
[SPEAKER_06]: That would be good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you imagine if Duke goes on a run in wins and aces?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god bro.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they can't, they've got like, how many lots of them?
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_06]: None, none, they're three and all, bro.
[SPEAKER_04]: They got two or three.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and they're scheduled.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're scheduled, they're rest of the way.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm, bro.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Georgia Tech Schedule sucks, but Duke's.
[SPEAKER_06]: They've got Georgia Tech Clemson UVA, they're not going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: You con, the part loose of you con.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, this is Mani.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a Mani loss right there.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we'll see you guys later this week.
[SPEAKER_06]: Enjoy your day of football today in tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_06]: probably just leave the house and I'll watch any of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just going to be talking about how much I ain't building neighbors getting fired no matter if he wins it was today.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's there you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: There you go There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I can find it in my 40 they need a higher they need a higher Jeff Brahm It's where they need a higher yeah, he is not leaving this on the water Yeah, right what it was the reason no reason right guys zero expectations are gonna do whatever once because the guys five and one He can't even get ranked that's why [SPEAKER_04]: Well, he'll be right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a crazy wreck like he'll be right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He'll be ranked 22, my and my will be ranked 12th.
[SPEAKER_04]: The head of a.
Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, we'll be at 13.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's, yeah, that's, that's the kind of stuff that I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: But anyway, you guys are smarter than me.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, that's always.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not really.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's another episode in the books.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you waiting for?
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody to kiss you goodbye.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I guess not.
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