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Hi.

I'm Danielle Robe, your host, and welcome to Bookmarked by Reese's book Club.

You guys, I'm so excited for you to hear this week's conversation.

When I tell you I was smiling the entire time, my cheek's actually hurt by the end.

I don't think of myself as a horror fanatic, like, certainly not in fiction.

But when the writing is good, it does it matter.

Like it's a great story.

I've been wanting to talk to Judy Greer for so many reasons.

First of all, she's a character actress, icon you know her lover.

She's given us.

Some of the most memorable girlies in film, like Jawbreaker, How to Lose a Guy in Ten Days, thirteen, going on thirty twenty seven dresses.

Okay, her resume is really long.

I'm not going to recite the whole thing.

But you get it.

She's Hollywood's secret.

Weapon, the woman who can steal a scene with a single line.

One of her.

Latest roles is in the upcoming adaptation of Stephen King's The Long Walk, which drops September twelfth, So obviously, I wanted to know what it's like bringing a classic novel to life on screen.

But Judy Greer isn't just a scenes stealer.

She's also a massive reader, like a novel a week kind of reader, sometimes even more than that.

So if you want a conversation that has all the drama of a Stephen King's story and all the charm of a roalm com, you're in the right place.

This one is funny, it's bookish, it's a little behind the scenes Hollywood, and it's very Judy.

So let's turn the page with Judy Greer.

Judy, welcome to the club.

Thank you.

I have to tell you, I'm so excited.

This is our first in person interview.

What we have been fully virtual.

I haven't felt anybody in person, so I'm so excited for this.

That's an honor.

I'm very honored.

Thank you.

Well.

One of the reasons I think it was meant to be is you are a veteran book club girl.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am like a reader always in search of a book club.

Tell me about your first book club experience.

So I had you have been like twenty years ago.

I just started it with friends, like I just started asking around because I really wanted to be in a book club, and everyone came.

I was very specific about wanting it to be every six weeks, not once a month, because I didn't want to only be reading book club books.

And yeah, everyone came, and then I asked everyone to bring someone.

Oh that's a fun idea.

Yeah.

Yeah, So it wasn't just my friends.

So it was kind of like and I did this also with my knitting group.

If you decided to do a knitting podcast, we can talk about this there.

But did you have any rules for picking the book?

That we would kind of go around and pitch books, like a couple books, and then we would sort of like choose between the ones that were p is how I think.

We did it.

Our book club is only a few months old, and so I'm trying to figure out the best way to book club even virtually.

Well, you don't have to worry about a spread.

No, it's less expensive.

It's less expensive.

It's nice because I was always the one hosting and that could get stressful.

So this is also you're already solving a lot of the problems.

Another problem I found and look, I like rules.

I'm a rule follower.

There was a lot of like god, chitter chatter sometimes in an in person meeting that I felt like was kind of rude and inappropriate.

I know, I agree, it's hard with an in person.

So anybody that follows you on social media knows that you are pretty, but you're also very literary.

You post and you may even be reading more, but you post at least three books a month.

Yeah.

Yeah, I do read a little bit more than that.

I'm trying not to post about the ones that don't, because you know what I'm learning.

It was that don't what.

Like, I don't want to like say bad things about a book.

So if you can't say something that, you just don't say anything at all.

Are you a speed reader?

Though?

Like, how are you reading?

So?

Muny read too fast?

I definitely read way too fast.

My retention is not great, and I don't think I'm a speed reader.

But I just get excited.

But I have to confess that I read a book recently and I did flip to like a really bad thing happens.

It was the new Wallylamb book.

Okay, I was like, I just need to know what he does.

What's cool is that because I know people that do that with TV.

Or films at home.

I don't know a lot of people that do that with books.

But I think because you have this experience reading scripts, you're like.

I know this bad thing's going to happen.

And like a script is like an hour time commitment.

Yeah.

Love Wally Lamb.

I'm like a huge fan of his books and his writing.

So I was like, it's not like I'm not going to read the book.

Yeah, I need you to clear something up for me, because you mentioned that you like knitting, yes, and on your Instagram it says that you're a big reader, but you're also a knitter, a vegetarian, and a collector of jars.

Yeah, what do you collect in the jars?

The jars are being dealt with.

My husband has started making pickles, so the jars.

But they were empty jars.

I just would always like, yeah, like I love old things, and I like old jars, and like I would use them for vases or like old Mason jars.

I mean, now you can buy them in sets for your drinking glasses.

And it's like, I don't know, farmhouse chic or whatever, but like I was doing it before they sold them at Target in the Housewars section.

No, I just liked having I just liked having them around.

I like to keep food, leftovers things in them.

Thank you for clearing that up.

I really was thinking, like, what could this be?

Does she collect coins and jars?

So now I get it.

It was literally just a bunch of empty jars.

But yes, the pickling is helping that too.

I want to know about you as a very very young woman because I imagine little Judy in the library in Michigan reading.

In my bedroom.

Okay, tell me reading.

I'm an only child, so I had well, we called them babysitters.

I guess they were nannies, but in the Midwest that was just a babysitter.

My parents would give my babysitter one instruction, which was like, she has to go outside and play.

She's not allowed to sit in her room and read all day.

Yeah.

And I was really obsessed with the Sweet Valley High books.

Yes, those were awesome, were my favorites.

So I was reading through those like crazy, to the point where my dad limited every other book could be Sweet Valley High.

I read through everything I could get my hands on, and my parents would buy me and I started reading their books on their shelves, which I had to keep secret because they were naughty.

But I was just reading everything in the house.

I'm going to ask you a deep question, but I am really curious what books have given you throughout your life, because it seems like they're this through line for you.

You know, I.

Had like a very lovely childhood.

There wasn't I mean, it was pretty nice in midwestern and middle class and sweet, I guess.

But so I think about people who really find escape in books, which I certainly did, but not out of necessity necessarily.

I think it was like travel, It was learning empathy.

It was like getting out of suburbs of Detroit, even if only through a story.

Like having friends, having family, having different experiences in different places.

I mean.

Also, I spent so much time by myself, being an only child and both my parents worked, and I wouldn't trade it, but I just didn't have anyone around.

So books were like also like my playmate too, yeah, your companion, Yeah, like my friends.

And I've never I mean I can't remember ever not having a book with me.

Out of all of the characters that you've played, who would be in your dream book club and who would definitely not be invited.

Well, it's okay.

All the characters I've played, well, I just watched a movie that I have coming out called The Dead of Winter, and that woman, she's a very sick woman.

She's not invited.

Okay.

I played a character named Quinn in season two of The Last Thing He Told Me, And she's really really smart.

She's way smarter than I am.

So I would like to have her come to the book club because I would be curious.

I bet she probably reads like a lot of nonfiction Lucy from thirteen going on thirty, Tom Tom.

I think she would probably read a lot of Emily Henry and then I think Aaron the Little file Clerk from What Women Want?

Oh, that was such a good one.

Yeah, she probably would bring like the classics like Rebecca, maybe some Jane Austen, and I think also Kitty Sanchez from Arrested Development.

Who the hell knows what she would pick with that would be.

It would be like a train wreck in so fun.

It does seem like you're reading a ton of fiction, But I haven't seen you post a lot about horror books.

I know.

I think this is a really good segue.

I think I know where this is going.

I read every Stephen King book I could get my hands on when I was a kid.

Really Yeah, but I don't consider myself a fan of horror.

Wait, reading Stephen King as a young girl in Detroit is.

Really an interesting choice.

Yeah, but again, like I think, I read Carrie, and I also feel like this was the first memory I have of a book being also a movie.

The thing about his books is they're so well written that it kind of defies genre to me.

Yeah, that's interesting, I think.

And I find that example with Wally Lamb as well, Like I was not in the headspace to read that story, but I couldn't put that book down because it's so well written.

And again I don't think of myself as a horror fanatic, like certainly not in fiction, but like when the writing is good, it doesn't matter, like it's a great story.

And also thinking about like this mind, where where do these stories come from?

I mean, one of my number one all time favorite books is his book on writing.

It's like half memoir half sort of how to be a writer.

Which after I read that book, by the way, I was like, I am not a writer.

I don't have what this guy has.

What did he say, what did it take.

All consuming have to get it out?

I'll do anything for it, Like.

And you felt that way about acting.

I think I do now.

I mean I feel that way about my choices now.

But reading Stephen King talk about his writing process and the beginning of his career and like sitting in like a laundry room and every morning at six am getting up and writing and thinking like, yeah, that's a that's a writer.

Like I can say, like I want to be a writer, and I like can dabble and like write a few things in my laptop.

But when I read that book, I was like, Nope, because you know what you do.

You do what you want to.

Do, You do what you want to do.

I agree, And so clearly I don't want to do that because I spend also a lot of time online shopping, and like probably more time online shopping than I do writing.

So probably what I want is to be a shopper or to be an owner of possessions that are sold online, not jar charts.

I could be projecting, but I do think that your love of reading must be connected to your love of character.

Yes, because to me, you're like reading all these books and probably studying in some way.

Yeah.

I just actually finished a book last night that was like a gut punch nonfiction called Things in Nature Merely Grow is a memoir this woman wrote about the death of her sons, and that was a hard read and it was a beautiful read.

But I am filing that away for characters, for thoughts, for ideas, for feelings when I'm at work, and definitely, like when you get to do a movie like The Long Walk, you get hopefully like a way into the character.

It's like cheating.

I don't have to necessarily do all that work myself, but the author does it for me.

But sometimes most of the time I'm not doing something that is an adaptation, so then I have to do that backstory stuff and that's when reading really comes in handy, which also for me feels like cheating because I like to do it.

Anyway, did you read.

A bunch of horror leading up to filming The Long Walk or did you just read the Stephen King book.

I did read the actual book.

I think I read it before I even met with Francis Lawrence, the director.

I have my favorite lbs Chevalier on Larchmont Beulevard in Los Angeles.

Hi guys.

Thank you.

I love a shout out to an independent bookstore.

Thank you for that forever.

Yeah.

Oh, you know what was cute about that?

I don't know if they did it, but they got me the book.

I went and picked it up and I was like, they're making this movie, by the way, and they were like, when's it going to come out?

We should probably buy enough copies because when the movie comes out, the book will sell more.

And I'm like, oh, I'll let you know.

Too.

Yeah, that's really cute.

Okay, so this isn't your first Stephen King adaptation.

I know you were in Kerrie.

I know.

Are there any keys or idiosyncrasies to bringing Stephen King to life on screen?

Well, you better do it well because the fans little inviscerate you if you don't.

It's tricky.

It's a big undertaking.

Okay, Like it's great because you have a built in audience and like he's just so incredible, Like, don't you want to make him happy?

I hope I get to meet him in this process.

I haven't yet.

Is there something you want to ask him or say?

In particular?

You just want to feel his energy?

Well, it's weird, like meeting someone just for the sake of meeting them.

I often I'm like, I don't know.

Like someone's like, oh, do you want to go backstage at this concert?

And I'm like why, Like what are they like Shakira going to be like, oh my gosh, let's be best friends.

Like that's not going to happen.

Don't know why I said, Shakira.

You don't know.

Shakira may love Judy greer Ivan.

Look, she should agreed, I anyway, even like Okay, So tonight on my husband's TV show, he produces Real Time with Bill Maher he does yeah, and Molli Jong Fast is on his show and I read her bug.

I think it was one of the best of the year.

Dude, it's so good.

It's so good.

And I didn't realize that her mother is also a writer and a lot of the book is about her mom, and so we have to read Erica Jong.

Well, I know now I have to read Fear of Flying because I didn't I would like pee.

So yes.

I feel the same way about meeting Stephen King, like I want to be Stephen King.

But then I'm like but then what yeah, then what I don't know.

We have to come up with an epic question for you to ask him.

So when it comes to horror, I think, both in books and in film, the topics of the horror of the themes often mirror something that's happening in real life.

So like right now, I think a lot of it is rich people behaving bad Zombies people say can represent fears about societal breakdowns or loss of humanity.

The Long Walk was published in nineteen seventy nine, what about it feels relevant today?

So Stephen King wrote it in sort of response to the Vietnam Wars what I found out on the internet, which is always accurate.

Also, things have changed considerably since we shot it last year, so how I felt when we were shooting it last year isn't totally relevant anymore.

Reading the book and watching the movie even I feel like there's a different feeling, like I think watching the movie, I got to see a screening of it.

To me, it felt so much more hopeful than I felt when I read the book, Like somehow there was in the midst of this kind of dystopian universe where this is acceptable, there was so much like search for love, hope and connection among these young men that I felt like is this the echo of this generation, of this young generation.

I guess it's gen Z or what's the what's the one after that?

Even now, like are our kids looking for a hope and a connection and a sense something to be proud of, like how to be a patriot when you don't know what you really believe in anymore?

I mean, the movie is intense.

I'm not gonna lie.

It's not the trailer, yeah, and that's like two minutes long.

But if you listen and you're watching, and like, I don't know, there's there's a line he says it where he says choose love, and I was like, I just can't stop thinking about him saying that.

This character Pete mcfreeze says it, and it's like, I don't remember if that was in the book.

I guess if I could ask Stephen King something, if I get to meet him, I want to ask him what he thinks about my interpretation of the movie.

That's a cool question because I know that's probably not I know that's not what he intended when he wrote the novel in seventy nine.

But maybe I'm also just like a lemonade kind of girl, like a glass half full, because if I'm watching that and I'm not thinking that, then it's a it's intense.

Man.

Yeah, that's actually not what I thought you were going to say.

That's really wonderful to hear.

I don't know.

This is like a little bit of a silly question, but you famously took a mug that says Poise magazine from thirteen going on thirty.

Did you take anything from the set of this film?

Okay, here's a thing that I'm not just saying that because this is like a literary podcast.

I usually steal books from set.

You do, But what kind of books?

Like books that are laying around like.

They're books I want to read.

Someone was like, oh, yeah, we just buy these boxes and books by the pound as like set dressing.

And I'm like really, so like it's not like, you know, like I'm stealing someone's book.

Yeah.

Anyway, I've definitely been on TV shows where I've taken a book and read it and returned it to the set.

That is funny.

I think that's stole from.

The Walk Lion Skate.

If you want my bra bag, you know, I was really comfortable.

It was a good bra.

It was a really good bra and it's not an underwear, but it's patted, and that's like kind of hard to find.

It's really hard to find when I used to work at E and I also stole a bra.

So in addition to being a big reader, you're also a writer.

Oh, I did write a book.

You're a journaler.

You wrote a memoir.

Back in twenty fourteen called I Don't Know Where You Know Me From?

Yes, iconic title.

When did you know it was time to publish your essay collection.

When someone wanted to pay me to do it?

Really?

I have a great book agent.

Her name is Kate Hoyt, and I was going to play in New York and she's New York based, and so she wanted to set up a meeting with me.

And she'd been like sort of like looking through Instagram and like old interviews and stuff like that, and she was like, I think you have a book in you and I was like, oh my gosh.

And so she was like, well, just she was like, just why don't you just read some books like memoirs by actresses and like essay collections.

Actually, really, I sort of felt like I wanted to think of it as an essay collection because I felt like I was too young to like write a memoir.

So I started reading like I read, of course, like Bossy Pants and like Mindy Kaling's books and like a bunch of them, and I thought like, maybe I could do this, and so then we decided I would write like a little treatment, and then she edited my treatment and then we sent it out for fun and away I went.

Did you borrow any tricks from your favorite writers?

No?

I remember not writing that often.

And one day my husband was leaving for work and he was like, what are you doing today?

And I was like, oh, I have Eron's and d da da da da, and he was like, are you going to write?

And I was like, well, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna work in my book.

And he was like, you have to write your book.

Like I was so scared to write my book, you know what I mean.

It's terrifying.

I had done this fifty page treatment, which I was really proud of, and then I was just afraid, Like I was afraid it would be bad and that I would be bad and I wouldn't be able to do it, and so I just kind of kept procrastinating.

And of course I have a deadline, so it's not like I can do that forever.

But he made a good point.

He was like, this is your job.

Your job is to write your book, and you have to do your job.

You have to go to work.

And I was like, oh, stop being right deep, Yeah, you go.

To work anyway.

And so I remember taking my laptop to our favorite local bar at the time called Sunset Terrace and Thousand Oaks, and I like sat there and I just ordered diet cokes and caesar salads and French fries.

And I was no Stephen King, but I was much better after I have my little lecture from my husband to.

A good husband.

Also, choosing to write at a bar over a coffee shop is a choice.

Yeah, we really wanted those caesar salads.

It's been a decade since since you published it.

Are there any chapters that you would add at this point?

I don't know.

I mean I guess, like I mean, things are very different now.

You seem so despondent by my cos.

I know because I was just fun about my answer, which is probably about like being older and aging and being a woman, and like, I'm so bored of that topic.

Can I ask you about what you just said?

Because the aging thing is interesting to me only because and I don't know.

Wait, well I hear, but it was twenty years ago you did an interview with Cameron Crowe and he asked you what role would be the ultimate for you, and you said she shouldn't be married or have children, and she would be so sad she couldn't stop laughing.

But it's not a story about her trying to find love.

It's about her trying to find herself.

Wow.

I remember very vividly that moment with Cameron.

What an answer.

Wow, that's a cool thing I said twenty years ago.

Really cool to have on record.

Yeah, I kind of feel like I watched the finale of In Just like That last night, and I feel like I'm going.

To watch it tonight in their tiny kitchen.

Okay, I think it should be required watch for all men.

But are all heterosexual men?

But yes, I think that's kind of what they were getting at.

Okay, so you were really ahead of your time.

I mean there are these sort of benchmarks that my generation like has and it's really hard.

I remember my guy to college is being like, are we going to freeze your eggs?

Like what's the plan?

And I'm like, I don't know, like I don't know, and having to think about that and like having to have a conversation and this has been talked about by every single person, but like having to have a conversation on like a third date with someone like do you want to have kids?

And like how off putting that is and how like nobody I know, no woman I know wants to have that conversation, Like no woman wants to have that conversation.

Like, yes, we have to ask it, or we should ask it, but it's like just because we're asking it doesn't mean we want to have it right or with you.

Also, yeah, like I don't know if I want your baby, but I do kind of want to know if you're like hell, no babies for me, Like okay, I mean those things are like hammered into us when we turn thirty, you know, And so I guess I have been thinking about it for a long time because also like when I turned thirty or when I was thirty, you know, we didn't have like you weren't constantly staring at yourself all the time.

And that's not just because I'm an actress, it's all of us.

It's like you're always taking pictures of yourself.

You're always posting pictures of yourself.

We're all making content no matter who you are.

You don't have to be an influencer to be like making content.

And everybody is.

If you're a real litor, you're making content, you better be.

Those are the people that should be making a lot more.

Yeah, because before it was I didn't see myself as much unless I was like, you know, happen to be like watching someone's movie between the seats of an airplane and I'd be like, oh, look there I am, Oh I look good.

Oh I should be a blonde again like that.

You know.

Now it's just we're like inundated with ourself all the time.

All yeah, So you are just from like even just a visual point of view, like seeing how we're all aging.

Is she doing it better than me?

What's she doing?

What's she using?

Yeah?

So one of my favorite things from your book is that you say you can profile your fans.

Oh yeah, you know exactly where they know you from.

So this is going to be the one self indulgent part of this interview.

Where do I know you from?

Judy?

I mean, I'm going to go thirteen going on thirty, But that was kind of easy.

Yeah, I know, I think that's.

Changing a little bit since I wrote my book.

But tell me, what do you mean.

I'm getting a lot more men with thirteen going on thirty, like older men, and they claim it's like my wife and my daughter watch it all the time.

I'm like, Okay, sure that's what she needs to tell me.

But yes, people are people are surprising me more and more, thank God.

The first page of your memoir talks about your relationship with fame, and it's so very Midwestern, which I love.

I'm wondering if your relationship with fame or even with ambition has changed over the years.

Well, Like, I don't think that my like my star meter necessarily is much different than it was then.

Maybe I don't know.

I feel a lot more like cozier in my space than I probably did when I wrote the book.

Like I think I really understand what I have to offer in a way right now, anyway, what I have to offer right now in a way that I probably didn't back then as much.

Is there anything you can point to that helped you get there?

Just kind of working more and like spending more time with people, like my time with like artists, actors and directors and writers that I really respect and and sort of just knowing myself a little bit more even, you know, like I probably was.

I have a different kind of self esteem now than I probably did back then, and like having to sort of like be your own like hype person, you know.

Like my friend I was just talking to him about something the other day, about a project, and he said, I think you've earned the right to say no to some things for a little while, Judy, and he's an actor, that he's my really good friend, and I was like, I don't know what to do and he said that, and I was like, it's weird.

It's like I thought I was working toward being able to say yes to all this stuff, but maybe when I was working toward was being able to say no and not being terrified, like you know, the Midwestern work ethic, like well who am I if I'm not working?

And if I'm not working, like why wouldn't I just do the movie if I'm not working and I'm available and it's there and they want me to be in it, Like I should just do it right?

And he knows what I'll learn or who ill meet.

I always take something away from everything, like I have a good experience and every job I do, and I can see exactly why I should have been there and why I should have been doing it at that time.

But I also thought that was like a really kind of like lovely gift he gave me when he told me that because I was, like, I also earned the right to like like enjoy my life and create like space for other projects, other experiences, like travel, Like I've been working with this organization that I really love and I've been traveling with them, and like being able to kind of be a global ambassador and meet people that do actual like they actually like save the world, and that I would be able to do without like a my career up till now.

But also so if I just filled my.

Days all the time working towards saying no, it is so interesting.

That's a good reframe.

So heavy.

I want to ask you about female friendships in film.

Did you watch White Lotus?

Yes, so the Carrie Coons monologue.

Yeah, I have it written down just in case, but you know it.

Yeah, but will you read it or she says something about I'm just happy to have a seat at the table.

Yeah.

At the end, she says I'm glad you have a beautiful face, and I'm glad that you have a beautiful life, and I'm just happy to be at the table.

I love you.

That was a rough one.

It kind of split the internet.

Really, Yeah, I'm curious your take on it.

Well, it's made by her performance because I don't really know how that character felt, and I think it happened at such an interesting time in their day dynamic.

And I was like, I'm always excited when there's like a good female dynamic because I'm always like wanting my husband to watch it to be like, this is what it's like, this is what it's like.

You need to watch this because I can just watch like a chicken wing commercial and understand his dynamic with his friends.

But like I'm like, oh, the Cantley commercials, what it's like with your friends.

Yeah, let's talk more about it.

I'm like, you need to watch these three movies to understand the conversation I had yesterday on the phone.

You need to watch this twelve episode dark.

I mean truth, It's like you have to to understand like the levels of female friendship.

So I loved that monologue.

I loved how it was performed.

And I think that depending on the day and time I watched it, so it doesn't surprise me it broke the internet.

But also like what people are like either they think it is like beautiful and true or that it was like a lie and that she didn't mean it.

You've worked with so many legendary actors in the industry.

I want to know who gives the best book Rex.

Emma Thompson Really yeah, we shot a movie a year ago.

We basically just had like a book club between her daughter, Guya Wise, the actress Laurel Marsden who's in the movie.

Well Guy and Laurel in the movie, and me and Emma Thompson.

The four of us had just like we just had like a pile of books that we just kept circulating between us.

So fun.

And there was one day where Emma and I went to a bookstore.

We were finishing the movie in Brussels, and we went to this bookstore and like we wanted to buy each other books, and so like I was like what about this one?

And she was like I read it.

I was like, oh what about this one?

I read it?

And she ended up buying me like five books and there was only like one I could buy her that she hadn't already read.

I was like, Oh, is there somebody that we would be surprised to know is a big reader?

Owen Wilson Really how cool?

Yeah?

He reads constantly or a lot actually, and he always was asking me for book recommendations, what we text about books, and that surprised me.

Thank you for that.

That's cool.

I hope it's okay I said that.

But yeah, I mean it's cool to be a reader.

I agree.

I mean it wasn't when I was little.

Now, same book talk made it cool.

And book club, I think, thank you, thank you, TikTok.

What's on your fall reading list?

Ooh, good question.

I just bought the Book of Alchemy, and then I bought Audition at Godmother's.

I was driving up to Manacito and stopped there.

I bought I'm excited about that.

I got a signed copy, not to me, but it was signed by the author, which I'm always excited about.

And I also saw a picture of Dorian Gray on Broadway when Sarah Snook was doing it and it blew me away.

And so I bought that book.

But I bought it in the summertime, and it felt more like a fall rate, so I've been saving it.

And then when I was I was shooting the last thing you told me in Paris, and I went, of course, to Shakespeare and Company.

I didn't buy a toe bag because I'm not twenty four, but I see girls walking around with the little Shakespeare Company campus totes, and I'm like, oh, I really want one of those, but I feel like I'm too old.

I think you can do it.

What one did I buy?

The Oh?

I bought Rebecca there, which I'm excited.

So like I feel like fall I'd like to revisit some of the classics.

I like that.

Okay, we're coming up on end of our conversation, which means it's time for the speed read.

Okay, So here's how it works.

We put sixty seconds on the clock and we're going to see how many rapid fire literary questions you can get through.

Okay, are you ready?

Yeah?

Three?

Two?

What's one literary trope you would ban forever?

Can I say?

My husband's that the creative outcast boy draws.

Sorry Dean?

Okay, One that you'll defend with.

Your life, opposites a tract, favorite literary sidekick.

Oh my dog Mary Richards.

That's my favorite literary side Garth.

Yeah, okay, your favorite literary female friendship the.

Mom and the Goldfinch.

But she wasn't It wasn't a female friendship.

But I liked her relationship with the lead character who's yame?

I can't remember?

That counts.

If you could adapt any novel for the screen and star in it, what would it be and what role would you play?

The Wife and the Beast.

Favorite book to recommend?

Oh, lately, I usually recommend Demon Copperhead.

Okay, what book do you wish you could read for the first time again?

Middlesex by Jeffrey Hugenneties.

I love that book.

What's the best book you've never read?

Like, I've never read Pride and Prejudice Me neither.

That's the best book we've never read.

I love to close each episode by sharing something that you've bookmarked this week.

It could be oh, oh, you know, okay, I don't even have to finish.

Sorry, no kind of listen to your podcast, so I sort.

Of thanks for listening to the podcast.

I thought you probably would ask me this question, and I have been reading.

I have a lot of feelings about Substack.

Okay, what are the feelings first, what's I don't think we have time for all my feelings about Substack.

That being said, I do like it.

And there's one I follow called Milkfed, okay, and it's literary.

She talks a lot about books and stuff, but I read this in milk Fed on Substack and she talks about messy handwriting and she says, not every sentence is meant to be read.

Some things are only meant to be written hurried, looped, illegible, but full of feeling the opposite of esthetic.

And it really was like all these little signs to get back into journaling, And I thought what she said about writing in general is so beautiful, and like looking back on all my old journals which I had to look through when I was writing my book, like they weren't necessarily for future Judy, they were for that moment, Judy, and they were like meant to get those things out of my head in that way.

And I thought, like, of because everything now feels like it has to be content, And I think that's where I got stuck, was like, am I writing something that then I could use to do a new book out of?

Like?

Is that what this is?

Is that where this is going and and so this like idea of like writing things that aren't meant to be read and just getting back to writing again.

I was really moved, and so I copy and pasted it.

And when I thought you were going to ask me that question, I was like, what am I going to say?

Like what she says on my tailor's with coffee mug like, but it was that I was like, Oh, the last thing I bookmarked was that.

That is really beautiful.

Thank you for sharing that.

Yeah, sure, I'm glad I got to read it out loud again.

The writing is so beautiful with the you can feel it.

Yeah, yeah, right.

You and your husband must have the most interesting conversations at home because this is a podcast about books, So hi, I had to kind of stay on topic.

Yeah, but I really am dying to hear your takes on so many things.

Well, you'd have to hear his and mine because they're very different.

And he's really interesting and smart and funny and uh are you well?

Thank you?

Yeah, but it's really fun to have his perspective.

You guys are a fun double date.

We have good double date, we do for sure, Judy, thank you.

Thanks for having me.

This was so fun.

You are so fun.

My cheeks hurt.

You're so fun.

Oh good.

I really could talk about books and stuff like that forever.

So if you're ever in a pension, you need another.

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