I was gonna let you go first.

Oh me.

Well, Hi, everybody welcome.

This is another rewatch episode of Catching Up with the Camdens.

This week we.

Are I'm feeling a little bit of love in the house because it's Happy's Valentine and I'm McKenzie.

Rusbond, I'm Beverly Mitchell, and I'm David Gallagher.

That was awesome, Mac.

Thanks, you did it.

You did it, Mac, you did it was it was all you, baby.

So this is episode fifteen, Happy's Valentine, Season one.

Yeah, this is a big episode.

Yeah, it is a big episode.

It's one of the ones that I remember.

It's one of the ones that I remember.

Not because of uh shooting it in particular, but because of how worried I was before we shot it, like getting the script, thinking about like how intense like the scenes that I had to do in this, Like I just I knew as soon as we got this script and understood what the hook was that I had my work cut out for me.

So I remember being like stressed out about it.

Really yoh yeah.

I ever felt like you were stressed.

I always felt like you were so cool as a cucumber.

You're like I got this, well, I was really you were You're you did such a good job hiding it because that you were just always such a professional, Like I don't think any of us ever had any.

Question that you could pull off anything that Brenda would throw at you.

Well, my job to question it, and I did.

And the fact that you were you were worried because you wanted to do your best work.

So bravo and kudos to you at a young age understanding that and bring.

Yeah, I know I've I remember feeling the pressure and the like the self imposed pressure.

By the way, I'm not saying that anyone put pressure on me, because they didn't.

Everyone was always very supportive.

My family included my dad would always just be like, what are you worried about?

You got this, don't worry about it, you know what I mean.

Like everyone always kind of like knew that I was capable of doing it and stuff, But but I did have when I was little, when I had important work like this to do, especially particularly emotional work, I always would worry about it and kind of like put put that kind of do pressure on myself to like to make sure that I stepped up to it.

You know, well, I mean, you know it was because you took it seriously and I want to do your best.

And it's whether if it were acting like or if it were sports like, say it were a big game, like nobody wants to let their team.

Down, right, Yeah, it's great.

It's similar.

I mean, kids have to learn how to crack or not under pressure.

But so don't whole episode Hatty's Valentine starts out with Eric and Annie wanting to go camping, which I didn't remember this part, so this was not at all funny, and how they wanted to go camping on Valentine's Day.

And of course Annie is like all in, like she's the one who's got like she's got the gear, she knows what she's doing, and Eric.

Has well, Annie wants let's be clear, Annie wants to go camping, Eric, Eric has to go camping.

Well, Eric is trying to find every excuse not to go camping.

He's like, well, you know the kids, and of course.

Yeah, I got my sermon to write and and and so on and so.

On, I got things.

There's people who need to talk to me.

But you know, the kids all have plans because it's Valentine's Day.

And Lucy of course, is expecting some grand romantic gesture from from Jimmy Moon, because of course he's capable of that, because she she is just a helpless romantic.

This poor girl has read way too many romance novels and she just is it's gonna be a sad, sad, sad day for her.

That's interesting.

So what do you think Lucy's favorite books would have been like as a kid or now, Like, definitely romance novels, but like like the girl version of that.

We are there are there like kids romance novels.

That seems a bit strange, but I would, you know.

I think I think if Lucy would have like I mean, what's funny though, is like she also liked romantic things that she didn't understand, like French fill.

Yeah, it's like that, you know, like that, you know, junior high kids are all reading seventeen magazine, but the seventeen year olds are actually reading Cosmo.

Yeah.

Well, back to the episode.

Can I have a note, literally, can we just talk about the high school exterior shots with all the extras, because there is a sequence of them trying to understand that we go to school, and half of the extras I swear were like not even young adults, but like.

No, like full blown like age.

Yeah it was.

And I was watching and it was like a long it was.

I could have been a high school extra right now.

We would be on the young side of the high school extras.

I was watching this whole sequence so weird.

It's so funny.

Maybe they shot something else that day that they needed extras for and they're like, what it'll work.

I know.

Part of me is like, did they just stoped?

I don't think they shot I'm like, this has to be like footage, stock footage that they like.

If you get adults, you can keep them all day.

If you get a bunch of kids, you got to teach them.

You got to they have to be out at a certain time.

Like that's that's all it is.

It's just a practical thing.

Maybe we had a bigger budget second season.

No, they're like full blown, like twenty thirty year olds.

Yet Barry looks too old to play seventeen, And it makes me laugh every time he says that he's seventeen.

But Barry looks seventeen when you look at the extras at the high school.

It's so true though, But I think everyone on TV looks like ten years older than they're supposed to be pretty much, and then at a certain age, women especially, they just look a lot younger than they're supposed to look for.

But if you notice that that's changed, because I think that's.

Changed a little bit.

Yeah, I think.

It changed like ten years ago, like I think, but long after we were done.

But in our day on everyone played, you know, five to ten years younger, and so people just looked older than they were telling you they were.

Now, I feel like we're in a time where that doesn't fly anymore, and so now you have more age appropriate casting.

But like it, I don't know when the switch flipped, probably, but I would say it was probably a good ten years ago now.

But it's but I don't see that anymore.

It's it's it's a relic of the nineties and before because obviously this was a trend that came from eighties TV and from before then as well.

But I think it definitely created such unrealistic expectations for actual high school students of what they should look and dress like.

To be honest, like you felt like, oh my god, why do I look like a kid?

When yeah, who's twenty something.

Yeah, yes, and to be honest, those expectations have not adjusted.

Those expectations are still there and very high and.

Unfaired people you know, play high school, well they're actually like twenty somethings certainly can't help.

Yeah, no, it's I think it used to be a weirder issue because you were literally just looking at people who were not the age that they were that you were told they were, and so you're you're going what they like, they're very mature, and why am I?

You know, how come I don't have a full beard and a And I also think.

That there wasn't It wasn't necessarily just their physical appearance.

But obviously, when you have actors who are older than the characters they're playing, they're playing with the wisdom of their current age, not of the age in which they're playing, and you could always tell when they tried to play it down or play it dumb.

Let's dive back, Let's let's try go back and dive back in.

We have amazing guest stars on this episode as well as usual as usual, but we have some of our favorites that are coming back who we've already met in previous episodes, and that is the Hamilton's, who are played by so many of our favorites.

So we first meet John and Keisha played by chas Lamar Shepherd and Gabrielle union Wade now her now yes, and Dorian Harewood and Patricia I do love that John and Keisha.

The scene with John and Keisha when he's trying to like yell at her because Matt and John have a plan of how to get rid of all the kids so that they don't have to deal with them, and he's like yelling at Keisha and she just like runs over and she's like, what do I look like a dog?

Do not yell at me like that in front of my friends?

And I love that she's and he's like, yeah, sorry, sorry.

He's immediately like put back in his place because she's just this very strong, well spoken and just like don't you dare Like I love that brother or sister relationship between the two of them.

Yeah, it's very cute.

And everyone's trying to set up their Valentine's weekend like behind each other's backs, and that's kind of the that's the big play of the episode is that everyone has plans for Valentine's Day, but everyone's trying to like sneak their plans by everyone else.

And it's like the pawn of passing, passing the torch, so John and passing the children, missing the children they're supposed to be watching all the younger kids.

And then they try to pass it on to Keisha and Mary, which Keisha abruptly says, not a chance and says tell And then John said tells Matt to like try try Mary and see if you can get any luckily, So.

What he says to him is you'll figure it out.

Yeah, just just handle it.

Don't don't bother me with these things exactly.

Yeah, And we still have the puppies, And I wrote down I'm like, oh my god, Ruthie and the puppies.

You trying to handle the puppies in that scene with Catherine.

And your like sleeve kept keeps getting caught on the puppies tooth and you're just like.

Well, I just like it was so sweet because I just see you like you're I mean, at that age, it was already like hard to like be in scene, but then when you have a live animal that keeps moving that you're trying to also handle.

It was such a very sweet, sweet scene and you did so great, just like trying to to not lose a puppy that was moving around and trying to get away from you and then biting.

You always been good with animals, Yes, I that is that the one of Max's uh secret powers good with animals.

So cute.

I love that.

That was so fun.

I mean, who wouldn't want to have puppies onset?

I mean true, I mean that that's kind of like a great day that, like you're like, hey, you have to work and you get to play with puppies on that tweet.

So the next thing that happens is, uh, the kid that the kid torch gets passed to Lucy, who then turns around and demands payment.

And so this was like, uh, Lucy's going to be going to the movies.

Lucy can take the kids to the movies.

That'll get him out of the house for everybody's plans.

And then Lucy's like, cool ten bucks and uh, you know, adjusted for inflation.

Okay, this is like asking for a million dollars.

So everyone complains she took it from that, it's a whole week's allowance.

Yeah, I feel like she's just like she's learned from Simon.

And also like, keep in mind, she already had her like hissy fit because Jimmy's mad at her because they can't go to the movies, and then Jimmy, Jimmy had his own little man fit or boyfit about it.

So when when she negotiates the deal to get the money, I think she feels like, Okay, not only do I get to go to the movies and I got money, like I am a when ning and I do like that.

She also she takes money from Matt and Mary.

I also like this change where now all of a sudden Simon is like fine with the puppies leaving, because this is like, you know, the big episode where the puppies are getting their home and Simon is all of a sudden fine with it because he describes what it was like when Ruthie came and how his life changed when his little sister showed up and took all the attention.

And isn't it nice when you can kind of like they can go away and you can get that attention back.

Yeah, Simon Simon has an interesting way in these early years of framing everything.

He definitely has his unique perspective.

You know, in the show, he's a glass half full guy though you know, so he.

Is a glass half full guy.

And uh yeah, he's constantly like trying to position himself for for the situation at hand, Like he's very very thoughtful with his uh, with his perspective.

And then we cut back to Annie and Eric.

Still Annie trying to convince Eric that like this camping trip is like the greatest idea, and Eric is still just not into it at all, has no desire.

He is just he's like an indoor cat.

He does not want to go be in the wild and outside he is that is not his thing.

No, neither of the men are into it in the in the the setup they are they are just like going along for the ride to make their wives happy.

Yeah, because it's Valentine's Day, Because.

It's Valentine's Day.

It's it's that that old classic like oh I gotta go and do such and such for the wife kind of kind of stick, yes.

Because they're the women are trying to set up this like romantic gesture and the guys are like not figuring it out at all.

That's right, but it also makes a whole lot of sense like the women have a plan, they have this whole like design of what the night will look like, and the men are just dragging their feet being like I don't want to.

I don't want to what are we doing?

What is this for?

Like I don't get it, Like I don't know, and like not they're not with it, they're not on it.

I have here in my notes.

Lucy threatens the kids with movies.

You come in and you're like, hey, guys, you want to go to the movies And we're like no, You're like.

Well you're going, and then you like you stump away and we're like all right, fine, I guess I know.

And I and it's what was it?

It's an animation retrospect, is the Yeah, it's.

It's something they made up so that they can play like things that they didn't have to license in the show because it was owned by Warner Brothers.

So it's just old Warner Brothers cartoons.

Yeah.

And I also like I also have that Lucy's trying to like get Jimmy to go for the plan and like trying to get him in on like what this deal is, Like we're going to take the kids.

It's going to be great.

They can watch a movie.

You and I can watch a movie.

It'll be a friend.

We can watch the French Actually, I think he didn't want to watch animation because thinks it's dumb.

So we had to watch the French film because he's very sophisticated.

Yes, and obviously jim and then Jimmy is like afraid of Reverend Camden and is like, you know, I don't I don't think the reverend would approve and and then Lucy's like, well he doesn't really know, so like it won't hurt him.

And I wrote down this line, Jimmy, you are a risk taker.

That's kind of exciting, Like that was his like line to like Lucy like that, and I just I had to laugh because I just thought it was so silly.

And so you guys, you guys are always trying to make something sound risky.

Such a desperate it's desperate for something to be risky.

Lucy's writing her own romance novel.

If we were to talk about the level in which like Lucy's like breaking the law, like this is it, We're going to the movies like she's we are you know, we're this is real big stuff, guys, this is she's really she's.

She's just selling.

Like, so we have to watch the kids, but guess what, We're not gonna watch them.

It is not hot, Isn't that Like this is like her version of like breaking the law.

Like any parent ever who puts Blue on, We're not gonna We're gonna watch them, but we're not.

Yeah, I'm supposed to be watching the kids.

I'm not.

Blue is.

Great babysitter by the way, Blue.

Oh my god, who doesn't love blue?

Oh?

And then I have Dwight naming the kids, uh, naming the puppies Simon and Ruthie.

Yeah, I know I have that in my notes as well.

Dwight names the puppies Simon and Ruthie.

And and of course Simon takes this as like as a big compliment and like the weird thing that it is, no.

Because it's like it's like your first son is being named after you.

Yeah, exactly, which is it's like, yeah, he's I say something like you're a good man, Dwight or something like that.

I like, I'm completely like convinced that this is like an honorable thing that has happened.

Then we go to the kids being at the movies, and Lucy's there with the youngers, but so Nigel and Simon and Ruthie and what was Camille's character's name?

But I forgot.

I just know Camille.

I just think of Camille.

That's like, I don't think of her character name.

This is this is when you you know, this is when you find out if you're gonna pull a Simon move and then drag Simon along, you're gonna get Simon.

And it happened Simon.

Yeah.

So I end up saying, all right, pay up, and you end up getting your money taken.

The money that you extorted from Mary and Matt gets taken by Simon and Nigel.

With like I mean it, the fact that she thought she was ever going to get to keep the money was ridiculous because I mean, obviously this was such a move.

Was a Simon move to begin with, I mean.

Yeah, exactly, it was not trying to pull a Simon move.

And you Simon did not let you get away with it.

No, Yeah, because Lucy would never It's like that's just not her thing.

I was step closer.

I got closer.

I mean I tried.

I had it for like ten minutes.

Listen.

I was rich for ten minutes, and then of course, then dirt poor right after.

And then Keisha and Mary are throwing a rager at home while Lucy is at the movies with the kids, and there is like a full blown party at the Camden house.

That's right, a full blown party of adults of adults.

Yes, yes, But.

We also go back to the campgrounds.

So this is when we establish like the little camp site then that presumably the moms have put together, like Annie has put up the tent, like it done all the hard work of camping, while the guys kind of like.

They're literally sitting there commiserating about how much they hate being cold, they hate they hate bugs, they hate I mean, it's literally just the back and forth between it's so funny Reverend Camden and Reverend Hamilton about how they are not outdoors, these people, they are not loving this, and they just they're like, we hate everything, but we love our wives.

Just a couple of sticks in the mud.

It gets extra points for how old the show is.

But such a great kind of like uh like role reversal, like reversal of expectations, you know, like the stereotypical thing would be having the girls sit there going I hate bugs.

I don't want to be cold, get me this, do that.

I don't want to set up the camp.

And then of course this is the other way around.

You have the two the two grown men sitting there not knowing what to do, being very uncomfortable.

Uh and and the women are taking care of the camp site, setting everything up, getting everything ready, planning the surprise.

They're doing everything, and the guys are just sitting there complaining about being taken care of on the camping trip.

And then I love that.

Like Eric is talking about how he doesn't have a sermon and so more, Reverend Hamilton Morgan says he'll let him like he's basically like.

They're cheating on their homework.

They're cheating exactly.

And I thought it was really funny too.

I have a note the beepers mm hmm.

Our showers is old enough to cross over with the time of beepers beers.

Isn't that something now?

To be fair, this was at the very end of beeper era, the very last few years of beepers existing on this earth.

But you heard said when we were starting.

Right, yeah, because it was nineteen ninety six when we started.

But I remember like I remember having, Like.

Did you have a beeper?

Of course I had a beeper.

I believe you probably had the like clear plastic kind that was like turquoisey or so why don't they definitely would have had a clear plastic one, and you probably would have had the horizontal one, right, No, I.

Had like the Yeah, I had the original beeper because I used to have well, I had it before we had we were on seventh seven.

I had my beeper at school, so my mom would tech would be not text me, would beat me when she was going to pick me up early an audition, so like I would know that I was but like to be honest, the front office would call.

So I don't really know that I needed a beeper, but I thought I did.

But I remember I remember beeper too young, That's right, I wasn't so just.

A baby too young for beepers, never had one.

Not only did I have a beeper, I also had a two way pager, the Motorola two way pager.

Because when that thing came, and that was like.

No, not just a deluxe beeper, no.

Because that one you could actually text meant like you can actually write messages, so like it was actually like actual text.

It wasn't like beeper codes because remember like you had like one fourth was like I love do you remember?

Am I like you guys?

This is.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

I'm having an issue right now.

I am not that much older, but now you're making me feel decades older, because do you guys know, like.

Just say, I didn't have any of this like ancient technology.

I wasn't around, you know, I was.

One four three meant one four three.

I don't know the code.

This is a foreign language.

Best is just this.

This is the language of the ancient guys.

I might have.

I don't know ancient.

I one four three?

How did you learn beeper code?

Was it carved on a stone tablet?

And then you had to.

Do you know what's happening right now?

I am having daggers to my heart.

Right now I will go cry in the corner.

I should move on, but yes, there I even like my number was seventeen, so like I would text or beat Oh my god, I keep saying text, I would beat my friends and at the end it was seventeen and that's when they knew, like, oh it's BEV.

That was your call sign.

Yeah, that's cool, I'm asking.

I don't know, this is.

Just too much.

You know what, all of our listeners will understand.

They will understand the love of beepers and how we used to have to make our numbers be upside down so we could try to make them words and send messages to each other because we did not have text.

It was not available.

It was like the secret language of the day.

It was.

But you know what, it was also fun because you actually had to like think really hard to like send a message and you have to be really like on it because you couldn't just like it took time and it took efforts, and like you had to figure out like what numbers would what they look like if they were upside down and whatnot.

So not like the messages that I said with a half a dozen typos and then like a half a dozen more typos in the correction, and then I'm just like.

Yeah, it's not just never mind, I'll I'll leave that joke right where it was.

It's fine, Yeah, okay, okay, I only.

Know one number code that you turn upside down that turns into words.

That's what I was thinking, Like.

You can do it on a calculator.

We have gotten off topic.

Let's go back to the episode because right now we just can't talk about the person in part because I'm just it's too much.

It's too much.

We have Patricia's ex calls on Valentine's Day, and this is where we have the introduction of a very sore subject because Patricia has been married before and Morgan gets upset that.

He calls every Valentine's Day?

Can I can I it controversial that I think Morgan is right about this?

Am I am?

I?

Like?

Am I the I wouldn't really like my ex calling my husband or sorry, I wouldn't like but like.

If your ex called you every Valentine's Day?

Would you be would you pick up that call?

Would you like?

What?

You know what I mean, Like it's it's very inconsiderate to say the least that that's the day that they call.

And like I, I don't think I would like it if one of my exes did it, or if my partners ex did it.

It seems like rude, you know what I mean?

Agreed, Like birthday fine, but like yeah, birthday okay, you know, like it's you know, it's not like you have to pretend people don't exist or whatever, or like never speak to someone anymore because you dated once or something.

But like.

This situation in particular felt out rude to me, and I was like, yeah, I think Morgan's okay with being upset about this.

It's rude.

And I don't know why you'd have to take that call, you know, true, but I don't know.

I was just like I didn't understand why he was wrong.

I agree, but I wouldn't really like it either, So I'm with you.

You know, and not even like from a jealousy perspective.

It's just very inconsiderate, isn't it.

Yeah, it's disrespectful, I think.

Yeah.

So Also it's because it was like their anniversary.

But also it's like recognizing, like okay, but that's normal.

But who celebrates their exes anniversary?

Like that's not a thing anyone celebrates.

I have so many anniversaries to celebrate.

I wouldn't have any because I don't have any exceses because I only had one boyfriend in I am married.

I can have some of mine.

Then we go to the kids in the theater.

I actually do remember shooting this.

I do, and.

And Simon and Nigel are being little jerks throwing popcorn at people in the theater, and and there there's one shot while we're sitting there throwing popcorn at that at that poor guy, the extra who was who they picked, and I beat him right in the head and I went yes, I literally went, oh, I got him.

Like watching episode, that's so funny.

And we we also go to Lucy and Jimmy exchanging their Valentine's Day and it's a very I'm sorry Valentine's cards, and the Valentine's Day card that Jimmy gives Lucy has a very special special message.

It says, if a pretty girl is a melody, how come you're such a strain.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's not a nice card.

And he said, well, because we were seeing a friend, I thought it was good.

I just want I thought it'd be funny, which also again he.

Said something like I wanted to keep it light or something like that, and I just there's no excuse.

I literally was just like, oh, man, Jimmy Moon, it's.

So it's so Jimmy Moon.

It is so Jimmy Moon.

Yeah, And of.

Course Lucy gets very upset and has to ye French movie again.

I think Lucy is right on this one.

I think it's perfectly fine to be upset about to get that for Valentine's Day from your date.

Yeah, I think Lucy is completely justified in looking at Jimmy Moon, like, what the hell were you thinking?

Agreed?

Yeah.

And then we go back and we see Matt and John get back to the house and find a bunch of people at the rager that Mary and Kisha are throwing, and there are some guys drinking beers who, when they get caught, put the beers in the lamp shade.

In the lamp.

Yeah, in the lamp shade.

Excellent, excellent decisions, Yeah, excellent.

Yes, no one will ever find.

Them there, No nobody else see, you know, a beer bottle just like kind of like tipping.

Out the casually sitting on top of the lamp of lamp shade.

And then of course we have Morgan and Eric conspiring to check on the kids and send our dear friend Sergeant Michael's.

Yes, who arrives at the party, Yeah, to find his own kid there.

Yeah, which is also great.

Yeah, so this this was actually and I had forgotten this detail that that uh, that they had done this, but but We're already this early in the game.

We're already building out the lore of Sergeant Michael's and and his his family and personal stuff.

You know.

So he shows up to break up the party, but instead of uh, you know, coming in, coming in blazon uh to uh to threaten all the kids and stuff, he finds his own son hanging out partying at the party and just tells him to call his mother.

You call your mother, to which his son goes, can't you just He basically looks at his dad and says, can't you just arrest me?

Because he'd rather he'd rather be arrested and get yelled at by his mother.

Which I thought was really funny.

Yeah, so seventh Heaven, I love that part.

I love you so Yeah.

That is us.

That is that is our show.

That is absolutely We also have the part where after Jimmy Moon has you know, completely insulted Lucy, he then puts his arm around her and tries to apologize and is about to move in for a kiss.

And I will say that part of me was like, oh, what's happening and Lucky Lucy, Lucy stop, that's awful.

Lucy gets saved by the usher who comes in and tells her that they've got to come with him because the kiddos have been getting into trouble and we have.

That's right, we got kicked out of the Looney Tunes movie for throwing popcorn at an adult who was in the Looney Tunes film.

Without kids.

There was a kid next to him.

Yeah, there was a kid next to him.

What that?

Otherwise then it gets real creepy.

And I also love that Matt is saying, like, no one is drinking with Keisha and John.

Oh yeah, because Matt, we got we go back to Sergeant Michaels.

Matt's basically saying like, no one's drinking, no one's getting in trouble, even though not only did Sergeant Michaels just catch his son, he caught his son drinking.

And so John and Keisha are like trying like you know that whole stick behind Like when you're behind someone's back and you're trying to tell them something and you're so over the top and of course no one's gonna notice.

You know that there's some maniacs behind you waving up and down.

Again, that's another seventh seventh thing, you know, Like that Sergeant Michaels wouldn't turn and be like, what are you doing?

But that's also when we find out the very heavy part where this whole episode takes a turn where it goes kind of lighthearted and we hit the hard stuff, and that is Sergeant Michaels breaks the news that Happy has been hit by.

That's right, Sergeant Michaels brings the news and just kind of crashes the entire momentum of the episode with a with a very serious turn of events.

So that and and I think it's kind of well done in the sense that they set the episode up for all this other shenanigans, this kind of lighthearted silliness to happen, and then everything gets kind of knocked back down to reality and all of a sudden, being mad about the party, or being mad about the camping trip, or being mad about the X is it everything becomes trivial, like instantly, And I think that that is kind of where the the I think that therein lies the value of the episode in as far as like it's it's messaging about what's important, you know, So like all this stuff is built up this whole time and then suddenly none of it matters.

Because Happy is in the in the hospital having escaped looking for her puppies, which we've Simon.

There's all this foreshadowing early in the episode where Simon's like, you know, you can't let her out.

You know, she's going to look for her puppies.

She's going to worry about where her puppies are.

You know, we can't let her Happy out.

And so of course that's the thing that ends up happening when when everyone is busy trying to you know, execute their their big plans for the evening.

And then we like that, isn't it.

Yeah, And then we dive into basically kind of like the aftermath of what happens now that this news has been broken, and Matt obviously has to go try to handle and figure out what's going on with Happy, and Mary and Keisha start to cleaning up.

I did make a note of like their cleanup job was like such teenager cleanup, which is like seeing a dirty pillow and instead just turning it around.

Yeah, there's a like putting the vase inside a drawer.

Total like total teenage way of like cleaning, which is like not cleaning at all.

Yeah, And when when my kid tries to clean uh their room.

I always tell them don't hide things.

That's like the first thing I say is like, all right, go clean your room.

Don't hide things.

That's not cleaning.

Well, a maze.

The youngest, who's five, has been really good about cleaning her room lately.

But I just went into her closet and I found pretty much.

I'm pretty sure her laundry basket was shoved into the back corner and I had been wondering where those clothes had been.

Grant did sheese five?

And her room was spotless, so she did a really good job.

And then she just basically looked at me and she goes Mommy, And I was like, you know what, You're right, and we might need to we might we need to do one of those days.

Yep, it's gonna it's happening sometimes.

But then we have a moment with Jimmy and Lucy where he's he's trying to he's trying to clean this all up, and he says, someday I will kiss you, but I don't want it to be because of an artificial holiday, which again very Jimmy Verry Jimmy Moon.

And of course, of course, now Lucy is now swooning again because how romantic that he's not romantic on the day that he's supposed to be romantic.

Yeah, so he doesn't, he doesn't play.

He doesn't.

And next up we have the scene.

That well everyone comes home, and then we have the scene where which was one of the big scenes for me, where we all come in and Simon of course immediately is like, where's Happy, having been worried about Happy this whole time and having told everyone not to let her out, and then Matt has to tell me the news that about Happy, and Simon of course gets upset and yells at him and tries to run off, and Matt grabs him and pulls him in for a hug, and uh and and it was it was okay, it was a good it was a good a good scene.

Uh.

It was a great scene for Simon and Matt for sure.

And I think it it went over very well.

I think it was.

It was very sweet, it was touching, and it definitely like just make makes your heart break, because it is it's like that when you get news like that you you want of you, it's a big reaction.

It's not like in Simon's reaction and in his frustration and his anger and his heartbreak and all of those emotions like come out in that scene when and Matt also this like very calm guilt, yeah, and brokenness in that in the fact that not only was a mistake made, but a mistake that not only caused harm to Happy but also caused harm to Simon, and this like responsibility.

You can just see all there's it's it's so much.

There's so much more than you know.

It was just a very weighty, weighty scene.

Yeah, yes, there was a lot of unspoken emotions in it.

I thought was just incredible scene.

It was really great.

Sometimes when you got that much, there's really not anything you can say about it, you know, like, oh, I threw a party, your dog got out got hit by a car even though you told me not to.

Like what's Matt other than it's.

No, I think the hug speaks volumes.

It's you know, it's all of the regret and the apology is is in the is in the hug.

The idea of that, the idea of like being like.

Being so incredibly upset with someone who grabs you for a for a that for that aggressive apology hug is like.

Is like big family vibes, you know what I mean.

Like that's something that I can relate to coming from a big family of like sometimes you can't sometimes sorry doesn't cut it, you know, and you have to you have to show someone like that you love them and that you're sorry.

And I think it's also that like like that hugging when someone's fighting you so long that like their body relaxes because they're so upset, and you have to kind of give that big hut to let them to force their body to relax.

And yeah, and that's when like the big tears come and the like the body kind of gives out.

Physical touch breaks barriers sometimes that words can't in.

Certain situations exactly.

And right after this very like heavy scene, we have the interrogation where we have Eric and Morgan kind of trying to get to the bottom of like what went on, and you have each between the Camden's and the Hamilton's of what had happened.

And it's this where like there are nothing's connecting really, like everyone's got like their little half truths of like how it all went down.

I wrote Lucy's very creative babysitting, which was like not baby's at all creative and basically and like all everybody apologizing for their part in what has had transpired that day.

I also have like a mark.

I was like, oh my gosh, a landline.

Guys, like we have beepers and we have landlines in this episode.

Love it.

What a time to be alive.

What a time where you don't know who's calling, you don't know who's who's on the other end, you just pick up and hope for the best.

A wild, wild west landline.

Who has those?

Nobody and we all this is when they all decide, all the Camdens decide that everyone's tired, but everyone wants to be there for Simon.

And everybody goes down to the vet because we're not letting Simon either by himself.

And we find Simon asleep with Happy.

Yes uh the operating table that happyes on, you know, and and the vet asleep at at their desk as well, and everyone just kind of like crashing at the vet waiting to see if Happy is okay.

A very sweet it would never happen, but it was very sweet.

Yeah, a very sweet idea that would not certainly not today, I don't think would happen under I mean you'd have to be at a very small vet practice in a very small town, I imagine for something like this to possibly happen.

But it but still nevertheless very sweet and uh and everyone kind of holds out and waits and uh and and spends the night there and then.

Even in the morning.

Her slippers because I had to write her slippers because I remember those slippers mac I or the crud out of those slippers.

Those were definitely a favorite wardrobe.

I hated wearing them too.

They were they felt so.

Gross, but they made you wear them all the time.

They were ruthy.

And you know what's funny.

So when they when they first unveiled these slippers to me, they were so cute.

They were like these great fluffy and then they're like, no, but we're gonna make them look really really dirty, like they're your favorite slippers and you've worn them a lot.

And so when the very first time I got to wear them, they were already like filthy.

Oh like looked like they'd been taken out of an alleyway dumpster.

And I was I was like, there was a lot less magic and in TV in that first moment, So this is movie magic.

There's a sweet moment where Happy kind of finally wakes up and gives Diamon a kiss, a little lick, and Simon started.

How much but it was on your face for that.

There was there was a command for kisses.

It was I remember, yeah, and I remember because and I remember this because, uh, Shauna or Sean or whoever was training Happy for the episode, will go gus.

Because the fingers like.

Sometimes it would Happy would just be like I have you know, you like hot dogs or whatever, but everything would have to stop for a second, so the trainer could be like to get it, and.

Then we sometimes kiss and then you'd continue.

Yeah, we'd like pause until we can get it.

And then so it's like the whole scene just like takes a pause until we could get Happy to do what she needed to do, and then then we would.

You guys remember that though.

Right, Yeah, actually I do, now that you bring it up.

Yeah, I do.

I remember that.

That was always.

It happened all the time.

It was one of the you know that one and speak Whenever Happy had to bark, they go Happy.

Speak.

Yep.

Sometimes Happy was just not in the mood and it would take a second.

Oh yeah, So the whole production would like pause, while the trainer would like sit there and spaz out.

Trying to get Happy to do the things.

I mean, getting dogs getting animals to do things on c is not something that's easy.

It definitely is a challenge.

Speak for yourself.

I'm talking about animals, not you.

I'm kidding, I am too.

And then then we have this scene where like, obviously everyone's super excited because Happy's fine, and Matt Matt asks for forgiveness, and I love that Simon makes everyone apologize to Happy for their failure and keeping her safe, Like everyone needs to tell Happy you're sorry, which also is just such a simon thing to do because Happy is not a dog.

Happy is like part of the family, and you would treat her just as you would treat one of us.

Don't apologize to me, Yes, apologize to Happy.

And then you don't know if she's gonna take your apology.

That's right.

She might need time to forgive.

She might, she might.

And then that the very sweet moment at the very very end where it is Simon has a sweet message for Happy, which is.

What was it?

Happy Valentine's Day?

Happy?

Oh, Happy Valentine's Day.

Happy?

That's right?

I didn't write that in my notes.

He did it?

Why not?

I don't know.

I think I was tired.

Are you tired?

You're tired when you were watching the episode?

It was too late.

I watch it, like, you know, late at night before bed.

I was a last week.

So there's been some time.

But that that is the end of Happy's Valentine Again.

It was like a fun episode.

Then there was like a lot of emotion and like a very yeah, it.

Was a fun episode.

It like especially I think what stands out to as far as that goes, because there's not a lot of times in the show where we do things.

Where we took creative liberties.

With the way that things are filmed.

We were a very kind of by the numbers kind of formulaic show.

But the interrogation sequence of like kind of face on stuff that would then pan left and right and kind of wipe cut and things like that.

I was watching that, I was like, oh, man, that's that's pretty fancy stuff for a show like us, you know, to do a sequence like that, that's that's kind of like.

So there was some creativity and it was very light and then to have all of that come crashing down for the for the final act with happy and bring it back to the family and have something serious to deal with is very seventh Heaven and I think it's it's that's why it's become one of those kind of quintessential episodes from the first season.

So that is that is it.

We did it, guys.

That is episode fifteen.

That is our rewatch.

Hope you guys and enjoyed the episode.

Thank you so much for joining us, and please catch us next time.

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