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Here a Cut Above Horror Review.

Tonight is a night for the living as we have friend of the show, Bob from the Straight Chilling Podcast on for our second week of Remake Month.

It's my pick and we are covering Tom Servigni's ode to Georgia Mero's Night of the Living Dead from nineteen ninety two.

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Good evening and welcome to A Cut Above Horror Review, a podcast where we review all things horror.

I'm your host, Jacqueline, and tonight we'll be discussing the nineteen ninety remake of Night of the Living Dead.

It's our second week in our remake month, so it's gonna be a fun time.

But before we get into it, let's meet everybody else on the show.

First up, it's Barbara Berg.

They're coming to take at you, Barbara.

Berg, going on, yo, yos yo, yos.

I am assaulted, sir.

That is an unacceptable slight Yo yo?

What do you think you are calling me?

A yo?

Yo?

Harry Cooper, I guess so you've got yo yo.

Next up, it's John, how's it going, John the funny?

Nice?

That's a good one.

Nice little addition, but not least our dear guest, a good friend of ours, Bob from Straight Chillin.

How's it going, Bob?

Yo?

What's up?

Guys, I've been buried a long time.

Thanks for having me, Thanks for coming on.

I'm glad to have your take on this movie, and it's nice to see you again so soon after our two hundredth episode when you came to hang out with us.

Likewise, yeah, yeah, thanks, thanks for having all of us on for episode two hundred and you know, helpe you guys celebrate such a huge milestone and congratulations once again.

You guys are still making it happen week after week and that's no easy thing to do, so keep it up.

Thank you, thank you.

It's that was pretty epic.

That was pretty epic having all all on.

So that was that was a blast.

H Yeah.

So I'm very curious to hear what your take on this movie is going to be, Bob, because I don't know your thoughts on it and I've never seen it before.

So oh, it's gonna be a good talk, I think.

But first, John, have you any horror news for us.

Why are you French?

Now?

Okay, we've done a bunch of French movies, so I had to keep it that, I guess.

Okay, but that's not now, No, very true.

So Arthur Clown will be a part of Halloween Horror Nights in Orlando and Hollywood.

He's got his own haunted house.

Uh so, Bob, I know that you go to Halloween Horror Nights.

I guess every year.

Maybe we usually go every other year just to keep it fresh, you know, But yeah, that should be interesting to see.

I would expect they're gonna have to dial the gore quotient back quite a bit.

Nah, it's gonna be a bunch of his split ass cheeks all over the place.

Like they can't do that, right, I mean, I mean, I guess we're walking around wearing some ladies tits yet.

I don't know, Bob, you and or I is gonna have to go this year and report back.

Yeah, I would love to hear that.

A lot of trash bags everywhere, right.

That's the real horror.

It's just trash bags everywhere that won't rip.

Despite all the sharp objects inside.

That's the shopping.

When you get to the to the souvenir stand unbelieved.

All the souvenirs in there, unbelievable.

If I was still in southern California.

That actually, go check it out in Hollywood because they're doing the same thing over there, the Universal in Hollywood.

So yeah, pretty cool.

Mm hmmm, that's some gruesome stuff.

Art's going to Hollywood.

Never thought i'd see.

The day is that.

The next movie plot is what it's about.

Art goes to Hollywood.

Hell yeah, get real meta?

Where like are they reviewing a movie based around him?

And then his character gets so mad at the review that he goes to Hollywood to kill the fuckers that gave him the review.

He shows up at like every red carpet he just kills people.

Be pretty cold.

They should do like a New Nightmare style like mockumentary, except there would be like a lot of silence.

That'll be the reboot in ten years, they'll just call it and it'll be exactly that.

Yeah, oh you put that into the ether.

Damn it, it's gonna happen.

It will be you just watch.

So we know San Diego Comic Con is coming up, and we finally got a non rated movie that's going to be in Hall H.

Have you guys heard of this?

Hall H is like the legendary Hall.

It really is like all the Marvel movies go there.

Toxic Avenger is doing their own panel.

Exciting, Yes, except I'm not going to call the fucking movie at already.

Yeah, like I just want to.

I'm excited for the movie.

I'm not excited for the whatever at Comic Con because I won't be there, but I will be at the movie when it is available.

I think that movie is only getting a release because terriff Fire has done so well because it was like I think Synnadim put out Terrifyer and they're the same people.

They're like part of Bloody Disgusting, and they're putting out the Toxic Avenger remake as well.

But it like they made the movie and it was like too like offensive.

I guess that nobody wanted to actually release it, so that's why it's taken so long.

It's so woken.

Yeah, I don't know what who knows what it is, but I'll check it out.

You know, I don't love the Toxic Avenger movies, but I'm down for it.

Trailer for the new one.

Yeah, it looks like honestly not amazing to me, but I'll still watch it.

It's very hobo with the shotgun ish.

Yeah yeah, same grindhouse type.

Yeah, I want to give a chance.

I have some actors in it, though, so I'm curious.

Yeah, yeah, Elijah will Yeah, for sure, it's got some star power.

I have been very happy with Elijah woods like career choices the past ten fifteen years, So you know, I have a fair faith.

We here at a cut above our friends of Elijah Wood.

We enjoy Eli.

Showed you.

I can't speak for all my co hosts, but I'm a big fan of mister Wood, very pro Wood.

I love I love that Bob loves Wood.

That needs to be on a T shirt.

Do it, Randy, do it?

Make it happen?

Well.

Last thing I got is in about Time news Robert England is getting his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Yes, right next to Keith David's.

That would be rad, but it's actually he's actually celebrating it on Halloween.

Perfect.

Yes, love it.

You think I'll show up in character?

Yes, I hope, really hope.

So yes, No, I want him to.

The older gets, the more he's gonna look like freddy anyway, right.

Doesn't anymore.

He looks aging people don't look like burn victims, hydroberge.

Spotted stint.

You get spotted skin, and your skin gets a little wrinkly when you get older.

That's a fact that.

Because you get cold.

Yeah, you gotta wet, sweatest, and sometimes those sweaters fray a little bit.

You know, that's true.

It's going to be at the end of October.

Sometimes you gotta go down to the boiler room, you know, because the heat went off in the house.

You got a whole room for the boiler.

Yeah, how do you explain that the razor fingers.

Well, he saw an infomercial late that night.

Because you're insomnia.

There's got to be a better way.

Like you get cut up.

You know how many cucumbers you can cut up with this?

Like I'm saving so much time with the Julian stuff.

When you get that old, you can't digest cucumbers anymore.

Whatever.

Damn they're like mostly water, yeah, right, like salary fiber is.

Hard to break.

Ah, my mother in law can't eat them.

The ships can't.

You gotta take them rectally, come for us all.

Damn, you've got.

To take him rearly and shoot him back out like that, A shorter trips.

Where are we what?

I don't know?

Can we get back on track?

Okay, what's your next news story?

John?

That's it.

That's all I got.

Thank god.

No, I'm sorry.

That fell apart, This went off the rails.

All according to I need a train noise.

Where no, no, it needs to be the sound of a train, like crashing off the breaking off of the rails and screeching into a room off.

The bridge, like an Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter.

Oh yeah, exactly.

I love the way to tie in.

I know you do, Bob.

Have you seen that movie?

I never have.

I recommend it for a super fun.

Time pleasure style movie.

It's like surprisingly badass and like better than it really had to be horses though, it has the greatest horse per minute of god damn.

Yeah, yeah, it's a minute.

It's got more horses permanent than Rob Zombies Halloween too.

Actually, oh my.

God, that's saying something.

Okay, yeah, yep, it has the highest horses in that movie.

It's a lot of horse.

Well, remember that was an accident.

Do you remember that trivia fact that like an intern tried to type in sixteen horses on the like c g I whatever, put in one point six million.

They're all c g I horses.

Yeah, and it's one scene like so many.

It's it's crazy, it's looking sold.

There you go.

You're welcome.

Thank you.

You should get that on physical media.

So you can hear it on the commentary.

I expect to hear I expect to see that on your next let's get physical media post.

You got it?

Oh man, that's all I got.

Jack one, okay, good, that's okay.

Cool.

Let's talk about the movie.

It's our second week of remake months.

We're trying to pick remakes that are actually good.

So Hydroberg, this was your choice?

Correct?

Yeah, all right, mine, Why did you pick nineteen nineties Night of the Living Dead directed by Tom Savini.

Well, we had covered the original and I thought that's that was one good thing is that I kind of like the fact that we're covering movies.

We have already covered the originals of SO and it's always been a remake that I kind of liked.

A lot of people haven't seen it.

It's not perfect, but you know, directed by Tom Servigni, I mean yeah, so like that's pretty big in my opinion and just I don't know.

It was like a modern, a modern movie that I saw in the theater, and it was kind of like I remember seeing it was kind of like a new horror movie for me, Like, I don't know, it was like a moment in my horror cred where I was like, oh, I'm seeing because I remember, remember I told you the story of that counselor that like showed us the original, So this was my chance to see, like, oh shit, I'm seeing one in the theater.

So it was like cool for me.

I don't know, Yeah, I remember, And I was able to compare it as a young, you know, filmgoer because I had seen the original and probably not too many kids my age had, so it always kind of just stuck with me as a movie that I thought people should check out.

As far as remakes go.

That's cool, all right, Well, since this was your pick, why don't you start us off in deciding whether it fucks or sucks?

Oh please tell me, Elizabeth, how exactly does one suck?

A fuck?

You want me to tell you?

Please?

I like that one, So yeah, for me.

You know, you're at the bar and you're looking across the bar, and you catch the eye and this young woman, she's got short hair, it's red.

Her name's Baba, and you know she's giving you the eye and it feels familiar.

But something's different, you know, the color in her eyes looks different.

But you know, you go home with her and things lead to what they lead to, you know, some familiar things, uh, some new things.

Uh.

She seems a little different, you know.

But at the end of the day, I think, you know, i'd call her back.

But it's not it's not life changing, and it's not as revolutionary as the first time that you remember the one that seems familiar.

So but overall, I think it focks.

Okay, Bob, what do you think?

Yeah?

I would agree that this is this is a total fuck.

I don't think I can I can manage to go toe to toe with Hydroberg's insane fuckery.

I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah, this is a total fuck from you boy, Tom Savini.

Mm hmm, All right, John, what do you think suck a fuck?

Fuck or suck suck a fuck?

How exactly this one sucker fuck?

John's gonna tell you?

Do you want me to tell you?

Yeah?

I like the analogy of like you've experienced this before, but then all of a sudden it just didn't live up expectations.

So I'm gonna give this a frigid fuck.

Okay, Uh yeah, I think my analogy is a little similar to y'all's.

Uh.

This is like hooking up with someone you were with years ago.

Maybe you're a little lonely, you call an X it's been a while.

Uh, and yeah it feels familiar, but maybe they've learned a little something, learned a couple of moves, some little techniques.

It's like, oh okay, yeah, but like mostly it's it's like pretty familiar, you know, comfortable, you know, comfortable, familiar in a good way.

So yeah, it fucks a familiar fuck a familiar Fuck Okay fortherfuck comfort.

Fuck.

All right, John, please give the spoiler warning so we can get into the details.

You bet you we're talking about from nineteen ninety.

If you have not seen this movie, pause ave podcast, go watch it, then come back to find out what we talked about it.

John, Can I ask you a question?

Yes, is you bety a John exclusive?

Or is this like a regional thing that in Washington that I'm not aware?

No, it's really not.

It's actually a Wisconsin things, so it's more like Canadian like.

Okay, bety a, okay, all right, got it.

I wasn't sure if it was regional or specific to you, so thank you for clarifying.

Because if I was talking from the Washington State, I'd be talking like this, that's my.

Name, especially like Josh Josh, Josh's John's surfer boy.

Alter you goo uh no, valley.

Girl, balley girls surfer boy.

Is it really that different?

Not really, not really.

I just I kind of like calling him mister bally girl.

I know, Nick texted us or texted us, and it was just.

Like Josh autocorrect accidentally said Josh instead of John.

Who's Josh?

You guys saw that, right, Yes?

I saw it?

Yeah, okay, because I sent to Typo you were.

Like you were like, Josh, Who's Josh?

I sound like Josh around.

Anyway?

I think you bet she is charming?

All right, So, yeah, you gave a spoiler warning.

I got a little sidetracked.

But hydro Bird, do you have a reach around plot summary for us?

Why are you laughing at me?

I'm laughing.

Josh just such an aggressive bump, like grunting.

Yeah, concerning a lot.

It stays with you, man, It's just paints a picture.

I should lead, I should I should combo that there, and then we'll just go right into the retra.

Yeah, here he comes.

He's coming to get you Barbara anyway.

Yeah, I gotta reach play the.

He already.

Did you guys missed it?

Yeah, I played it earlier.

It was it was underneath some chatter.

That's how it just likes it.

He's low, pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure we'll hear it again.

Don't worry anyway.

Let me do what I do.

Daylight country road siblings bicker on afternoon stroll visit mother's grave.

Brother trolls for Barbara and Johnny a beautiful day to visit their mother.

Barbara, fed up being teased by her brother.

A confused man in the cemetery, they discover Barbara taken more than she can stand, accidentally stabs brother in hand.

When attacked by a second cemetery man.

They are coming to get you, Barbara.

The line between reality will falter as a corpse assaults her.

Big brother tries to stop it.

Stop it, struggle with the assailant, but trips and drops it.

Johnny's face hit a tombstone his neck.

He pops it.

Brother, now dead from a broken neck, run to the car for a sec catch her breath.

Barbara surrounded and panicking what next.

As a nice enough looking man approaches, something feels off as danger and croaches.

Someone's weaponized in the crosis.

Pull the brake.

As the car rolls down a hill, hit a tree, she shakes it off.

No time to chill, She's off running through the woods, takes a spill.

Comes upon an old country home.

No one appears to be there, all alone, meet left burning on the stove.

Barbara creeps through the house a pushover for Johnny, but no mouse blood drips through the ceiling onto her blouse.

Farmer falls over the railing, arms flailing.

Barbara, now freaking out wailing, runs outside afraid.

Ben shows up to give aid.

Leadership displayed drop kicks.

Jebediah smacked with the hot pan on the friar.

Barbara snuck up on by the farmer from earlier.

She beats him with the poker.

Ben kills the others and shows her his composure how to react to eminent danger.

A hug tender love from a stranger gives her strength for the remainder.

Ben fills her in on the news of good old boys forming crews.

Pure hell on Earth, no one a clue, goddamn you, goddamn all of you.

Other survivors come up from the basement, Ben and Barbara, unaware it was taken.

Harry and Ben argue overplacement.

Local sweethearts Tom and Judy.

Two survivors take duty.

Harry downstairs, hurt, Booty Cooper yelling you bunch of yo yos upstairs.

The crew board up the windows, house becoming surrounded by weirdos extra boards in the cellar.

Cooper just watches a shitty fellow.

Barbara freaks out.

She's no stella.

Is he dead now?

She exclaims as she shoots the body and the brains.

This isn't a game.

Devise a plan to go and gas the truck.

If they don't move now, they'll all be stuck.

The plan goes south wrong.

Keys shit look, shoot the lock, and a desperate attempt to acquire the gasoline is caught on fire.

Tom and Judy burn to a crisp like fries.

Left in the friar, all hope dashed, Ben and Cooper clashed over plans to last through the night.

As tension pulls tight, Sarah gives her mother a bite.

Harry can't comprehend the sight.

Cooper's daughter a dead ringer shoot her.

Now tensions linger.

Cooper can't pull the trigger, so Ben does the deed.

Harry shoots back.

Bullets fly with great speed.

Both wounded, Harry retreats upstairs as he bleeds.

The house and its safety devolved.

Barbara knew how to solve the situation on escaping through grit and resolved she will just zigg and zagg through the dead to get help.

Takes a moment for herself, surrounded by death as she yelps, she manages to find others thriving shooting at hanging infected surviving bodies on the fire piling a change.

Barbara returns back to the house.

It appears to be vacant until undead Ben comes up out of the basement, eye'es white with death a statement she couldn't bring herself to fire a shot.

Ben was a friend and he gave her a lot when she was first caught in the spot.

She decides to look around upstairs.

Harry pops out jump scare the men who shot Ben downstairs, Unaware excited to see that Barbara came back.

He can't see the change in the humanity she lacks as she pulls the hammer back in the blink of an eye, Cooper surprised as Barbara places one right between his eyes.

Cooper shot in the head.

Another one for the fire instead, Barbara the sole survivor on this The Night of the Living Dead.

Well, a bunch of yo yos a.

Thanks for the reach around, bud.

I feel satisfied.

I'm truly satisfied, right, thank you' all.

You're so international today, like Swedish or German.

I think Germany.

Oh yeah, thank you.

Yeah, thank you so much.

Touch my nipples, touch my.

Monkey, reach around, y'all.

I'm happy.

Little That was really good, little surfer girl, I like that.

I don't know from Germany.

Yes, Germany known for its surface.

Right there, some trauma movie about surf Nazis must die?

Yeah, yeah, there you.

Go, chances a trauma film again.

You you brought it up man, based on John's life.

I didn't say Nazis said.

And something about a surfer boys.

So there, you know, it's the natural conclusion.

So let's go get this killed.

Okay, it's done.

Oh lord, So had all of you guys seen this movie before already?

Okay, I mean, yeah, okay, I've seen it.

Yes, Yes, I like the beginning, and so I've heard this is being redone and it's coming out in September, like in a four k uh copy.

And apparently there's a version that has more gore and stuff, but also like starts in black and white, which I can see now at this beginning watching it again.

Yes, I don't know if they actually filmed it that way, but that was Tom Savini's original vision was to start it in black and white and have it gradually transition into color, which I think would have been really cool.

I love that idea.

So I hope there is a version of that that exists because I like that idea.

In September, it's almost like.

A nightmare Wizard of Oz.

I can't hate this movie because, like Tom Savini has been a part of the Georgia Romero multiverse, you know, for a long time.

She's worked on the first movie and Donna the Dead.

Yeah, Day of the Dead some of his finest work, I.

Think, honestly, I agree, even amidst that I think he thinks that's his finest work.

But yeah, I do like the homages.

There's some subtle ones, like you know, we this very beginning, we get the country road, you know, that same kind of shot.

He's doing it a little differently, but you know.

And the setting looks great.

The cemetery, to me looks awesome.

It really does.

And I have to say one thing I like about this remake is the actors in it.

I really enjoyed the performances.

I like what's her name, Patricia Tolman, the red Man.

I thought she was I really really liked her as Barbara.

I liked Bill Mosley in the beginning as Johnny.

I love wish we could.

Have had in the fucking driving gloves on Brock.

I wish we could have had.

I always wish for more Bill Mosley that like, I can never have enough Bill Mosley.

But I did appreciate that little small role for him there.

I liked Tony Todd as Ben, I liked Tom Towels as Cooper.

I enjoyed the whole cast, and so I feel like the they did a lot to make this remake feel like a little a little more full, If that makes any sense, I'm not sure.

I don't know if that makes sense.

But in the original, it feels like there's a lot of space between the dialogue, and sometimes it can feel I love the original like it's a gem, but sometimes it does feel like a little stilted in the dialogue or a little like just there's like a little emptiness to it sometimes.

Yeah, but the actors here, I think, in combination with the script, it feels just like a little more full, like a little more fletched out somehow the conversation of it.

And they also probably ran their dialogue more, you know what I mean, because it's just a bigger budget movie probably I'm sure than the original in comparison.

Yeah, but I mean not by a ton.

But yeah, but.

I do remember the theater like this coming out in theaters and there being a decent bit of like advertisement for it.

I thought too when I was younger.

M Yeah, I think this is it's like it's just to like compare this to the original, because you absolutely have to write.

But like I think that there's like a certain barrier to entry for the original, it being like nineteen sixty eight black and white and sort of to your point, Jaqueline, there's it's very slow moving like the zombies are obviously slow moving, but like the movie isn't super long, what it feels a bit long.

I absolutely love it.

It's a classic, of course, but I do think especially for a modern audience, whether it be nineteen ninety or twenty twenty five, like, not everybody is going to jump into that and immediately just think it's amazing.

So, you know, kind of dusting it off and tightening it up a little bit.

And I think just it being in color is going to help a lot of people maybe discover this movie and think, hey, that's pretty cool.

Now why don't we go back and check out the original movie?

And I think it might be a little easier for them to digest already having kind of like the story in mind, you know, it might soften that.

Yeah, yeah, there's some all things that play in the original.

Bob, would you agree that, Like that's why a lot of legacy sequels are coming out now, is that it's giving it to a new audience to those out the original.

I think it's really primarily about making money, and like the recognizable ip is just a safer bet.

But it does sort of like if you're looking for a silver lining, Like I just watched the new Jurassic World movie and I really didn't care for it.

But there's a bunch of kids in there that maybe had never seen a Jurassic Park or World movie before, and they were loving it.

So like, you know, it's getting people into the genre and getting people into the theater, so like that is a nice silver lining that I guess, like, even though it's really about money, you know, just churning out as much money as you possibly can, sure people are yeah, being introduced to it that maybe otherwise wouldn't be.

Yeah.

See what I think is too this remake, And even with Texas Chainshaw, I don't think that they necessarily feel like they were like only made to generate money, Like yeah, Texas Chainsaws obviously through Bruckheimer and Michael Bay.

But at the same time, I think they tried to make their own version of that movie.

You know, we spoke about it last week, and I think Servini tried to give homage to, you know, one of his idols with this one, but he did do his own thing a little bit here with this.

Yeah, well, correct that some things that were maybe flaws too in the original.

I think I would agree with that, and I think George Romero was very involved in the development of the script as well, because this was nineteen ninety and you know, there were some really good remakes in the seventies and eighties, you know that we all know and love, and I just feel like there's a different vibe to these remakes before we got into the two thousands.

The remakes that kind of started ramping up in the two thousands feel more like what Bob was talking about with this grab to make money and reintroduce familiar ips, right.

But to me, the ones that we know from the seventies and eighties and up through and including this film feel more like you know, I mean, of course they want to make money on them, but they also feel like an attempt to do something artistic and you know, provide like kind of an updated version of something for people to enjoy.

Maybe that's naive of me, but that's how I see it.

And they have a different feel to them, like you know, Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Fly and this movie, it feels less like a money grab and more like just a director trying to do something with a story that they love.

You know, Yeah, well I think, yeah, I think Hydroberg actually brought it up, you know, like paying homage to a guy they looked up to with Roumerow and doing like a really good version of it.

If you want to see a shitty version of like a remake of a movie, watch Psycho.

Don't don't.

I knew you were going to say it.

You have to, you have to bring that up because I know that was in black and white.

That's a classic.

And then all of a sudden it's like seeing, you know, a shot for shot remake.

Well, so, John, I'm actually glad you brought that because if you didn't, I was going to anyway, because I'm I'm you know again, I'm the only one who had never seen this remake of Night of the Living Dead before.

But as I was watching, you know, maybe the first ten fifteen minutes, I was thinking to myself, is this going to be a psycho situation?

Because hoping you didn't think that, Well.

That's not the conclusion I came to.

But at the beginning I was a little worried that that was going to be the case because it's not shot for shot the same.

But I would argue that, like the scene sequence is similar.

Definitely there are some changes, but it takes a minute to get to those changes, and so I wasn't sure really like middle to end, yeah, I mean right off the bat that you know, the opening scene, like Johnny is saying stuff to Barbara, like there's some dialogue.

Yeah, that's not in the original, right, So I was like, Okay, that's promising, But then.

They swerve the subject in the background.

You know, it seems to be pretty pretty similar, and so I was like, oh no, because you know, and I've ranted and raved about it before.

But the reason I hate the Psycho remakes so much, and I know many many, if not most, people agree with me, is that there's no art in making a shot for shot remake of a classic movie that everybody knows and loves and where the only differences are that it's in color and have big name actors, but with like somehow inferior acting.

And luckily I don't feel like this turned out to be like that, but but for a minute I was, I was getting concerned because there is a lot of similarity.

And so if you're being you know, positive about it, you could say this is, you know, a faithful adaptation of the original film.

But I do think it has some positive changes in it as well, and we could talk about that later.

Yeah, I'm curious.

Do you think that maybe this was also in a for Servigni to like get George involved in the movie so that he could finally make some fucking money on the title the Night of Living Dead, you know what I mean, like because of what happened.

Yeah, I yes, And so there there were really two big reasons for this movie to exist.

One was to kind of allow George to kind of get those rights back because Night a Living Dead had been in the public domain and he was not making any money off of it.

And so this one is similar enough that I kind of like re establishes that.

And since George is credited as a co writer on the script, that kind of helps him, right.

And also George Romero himself felt like he wanted to correct some of the perception of like the female characters in the original movie, Like he he felt kind of a need to apologize to women for the way Barbara is presented in the original movie, and and so that I think that was an impetus for him to sort of correct that for audiences, which I appreciate some people have criticized that as oh, now she's just kind of heavy, like the final Final Girl trope.

But I'd rather have that than the simpering, you know, worthless character of Barbara Rich.

I think she has more of an arc in this one.

I agree.

Yeah, I think Barbara.

Barbara is like so catatonic in the first one, and at the end of the movie it's all of a sudden.

I liked the character of Barbara in this movie.

I love the fact that they used Tony Todd as Ben.

Yeah.

He was great, he was Yeah, he was.

Really subtle, but like in your face kind of Yeah.

Well, and I remember this conversation we had back during our October to Romero month, Uh, you know, a while ago.

I think all of us were disappointed with the portrayal of Barbara in the original Night of the Living Dead.

Biggest critique.

Yeah, but especially considering the I'm going to roll the prominent like position that he gives female characters in the subsequent films, and you know, so that's like kind of disappointing because I feel like he is sort of an egalitarian and he's I don't feel like he's a misogynistic person or anything like that.

And so it's just kind of a disappointing character the way that it's written, and that's why I appreciate and respect this update.

Particularly there's a moment the character, there's a moment of change where she's hysterical and in the original, Ben slaps her.

In this he embraces her and holds her, and it's enough to just empower her after and get her centered again, you know what I mean.

And he talks real to her and they become like allies, partners, like she can you know, she she realizes like, oh I can help out, I can do this, I want to do more, and like they don't.

We don't get any of that with the original.

And that was a big moment I noticed.

I was like, yeah, Like he wasn't like pushing back at her.

He was like, all right, fine, you know, you know, you just let it out.

And I thought that was for her.

Yeah, and it's.

Good for Ben.

I think that's good for Ben too.

It's disappointing for the for me to see the character of Ben slap Barber in the original.

You know, I know it was the sixties, but still, and so it's you know, I think it's I think it's a better look for both characters.

And I really love the moment in this film where Barbara takes off her skirt and puts on some pants and a tank top and she gets all like ramped.

Yeah.

I love that's that's like a visual you know, representation of the internal change that she's going to setting aside with fear.

Well, it's because she's getting ready to fight, Like she's setting aside her fear and stealing herself to do the fighting that she knows she needs to do.

Yeah.

I think Tony Todd playing Ben in this he does a really great job, Like this is totally like Barbara's movie.

But when you're introduced to Ben, you're like, Okay, this guy he's kind of he kind of knows what to do.

He seems very level headed.

Yeah, I'd probably like team up with this guy and you know, follow his lead in order to survive.

It seems like a decent choice.

And then at one point in the movie where she realizes she like sort of has a moment to like like take a look around and see how slow these zombies are actually moving.

She's like, we could just walk right by him.

She's like, why should we just stay here and wait?

For them to come to us.

We just walk right by him and get the hell out, and he's like, no, no, we gotta we gotta get the truck and we gotta get guessed and we got to board up all these doors and windows.

And in that moment, I was like, she is absolutely right, Like just go because at a certain point, as long as you're not completely surrounded by them, you can get away.

But if you stay in the house long enough, you will be completely surrounded by them at a certain point.

So like, listen to the lady, you know, but they're like dudes.

All the men in here just make terrible decisions.

Like I think that they all think they're doing the absolute correct thing, which which is definitely not like working together really at any point, which is such a like if if Tony Todd had like listened to even the dipshit downstairs and gone into the cellar, he may have found the key to the gas and they could have gone and gassed up.

Or if you would have just listened to Barbara and just like left, maybe they would have found the idiots with the truck that are rounding up the zombies and survived that way.

You know, if he would have just like listened to somebody the idiots.

She's really smart in this.

She does a couple of things that are really like even in the very beginning when she's even in a panic, when she pulls the e brake, like that was the last ditch effort, right, Like.

I love that moment too, where she thinks she's got a little bit of hope.

She sees a guy who looks playing and he's coming up the hill, but it's really just another the guy who was in the casket that she passed earlier.

Yeah, that was empty, and you see his like bare ass and he's like ass hanging out and the later on they swapped it out.

The the naked zombie in this one is is a lady in this one.

I didn't see any bug eating, though I wanted to see one eat like a cicado off the fucking thought they did.

Ye, I think they're worms or something.

Oh, yes, they were out of the dirt.

Yeah, no, pig guts.

I don't think I will admit.

There's a couple moments in this where I know it's a short film, but it feels like just extra noise and like when they're boarding up the place, it feels like a little bit of bloat, and you get a little bit of like a I don't know you had that same moment in the original too.

There's like two minutes of just boarding up windows and.

Shit, that's the thing.

Well it went on for way longer than two minutes, and I'm like, dude, how many windows are in this front room?

Because that went on for like twenty minutes.

Well, it's not just that they find wood throughout the house.

It's like, ooh, yeah, this store's fine, let's do that.

I like that moment where like, you can't use this store and he's like that's fine.

He fucking puts his hand to it.

Like I like that, Yeah, because that's Ben.

Ben is that guy.

He's like that leader sort of like no, we can't use this, you know.

The break approves of this carpentry portrayal.

Yeah, and I like the fact that, like the doors are downstairs, so now we got to work with the guy downstairs again, Like we gotta fucking see if we can get the wood from down there.

Cuba, Cuba.

Harry does literally nothing to help, literally nothing, watching while people are fucking working their ass off.

Tom tells man, what a great actor he is a journey actor, if you will.

As Rob would say, we just throwing that he's like the citizen Kane of journeyman actors.

I heard, I've heard, I've heard that.

When Johnny falls and breaks his neck fucking the doll that they that dummy that they swap in real quick.

Did you see it?

It's clearly just a dummy whatever.

It works fine for me.

I thought, yeah, it works.

Hampiness to the music and stuff too anyway, so I think.

Yeah, yeah, like that, I just I just accepted, you know, But Hedroberger, I wanted to go back to something you were saying.

You were talking about the pace and how it feels like there's just kind of some patting out here.

I agree with that.

It happens in the original movie, and it happens in this one.

I actually felt myself about midway through, like dozing a little, and I was like, oh, I got pay attention because at at its core the story is not like that.

There's not that much to it, right, and so you know, they have their their dynamics that are explored, and they have their disagreements between the characters and stuff, but really at a certain point, it's just like zombies trying to get in the house and people holding doors up, and it's kind of the same thing over and over again.

That's you know, that's just part of both movies, and so that would be a criticism I have of both films is that there's there's not enough to keep the story going really in the middle.

I feel like there's a lot at the beginning and a lot in the end, but in the middle it's just kind of like repeated episodes of the same thing.

And it's fine a couple of times, but it kind of goes on and on, and so I.

Agree with you.

It's a short movie, but it does feel a little draggy, you know, despite the like more full dialogue than I described earlier.

What hyderd What I love over this this one over the original is the just the gore, like this year just great, great kills, great makeup.

That one zombie that comes down.

I like the hand that comes off the railing with the blood coming through the ceiling.

We don't really know what's going on upstairs, you know, it's kind of she's alone at that moment, and then that like farmer bill looking motherfucker comes flying down.

The big fat one didn't he look.

Like he reminds me of a zombie that is in Shawn of the Dead, And I wouldn't be surprised if they were like paying homage to this movie.

But I don't know that for sure.

There's like a bigger zombie in the garden and they're like throwing records at it.

Yeah, now that you mentioned that, it does kind of look like shit, But yeah, I just think the effects were really good in this movie.

I agree well in TI, I mean that's you you go into this expecting that, right with Tom.

That's my point is that that Tom Savini adds the gore to it, which is nice.

I mean, obviously, nineteen sixteen it's in black and white and you're not seeing this, but the way he did it was actually very reverent.

In this too, it doesn't feel like he's using the gore just to like carry the film.

You know, he's doing, you know, trying to tell story and show character moments, you know, while showcasing this gore.

I love too when they get in the house and Ben like drop kicks that motherfucking zombie like out the door, and then the thing comes back in and it's like tries to kiss him or some ship.

Is that like a variation on the hugging zombie?

Like, I don't know, that's just magnetism, you know, you.

Just yeah, I'd be trying to kiss him too, even if I were dead.

They've been buried a long time, Like really feels so like, you know, obviously there's not going to be a zombie apocalypse, but if they're where like the ending of this feels so probable.

Like just these these back backwoods folks.

Yeah, like they've been stocking up Ammo for years, just waiting for something to pop on beers as soon as it does.

Yeah, yeah, they got him in the corral and they're using them for target practice, and a little.

Moment going on there.

Yeah, I guess that was his moment of like commentary.

You know, instead of doing the ben at the end, which we got in the original, they do this and kind of you know that kind of speaks on that maybe a little bit.

Uh.

They're just so quick to devolve and like revert to your animal instincts, which is where you know Barber has that moment where she's like, we're them, they're us, you know, we're just brainless monsters.

Well.

I love the fact that she ran into the house and looked for bed and like almost thought that they don't want her to.

Be the one that shot him.

But I love I don't love Ben's death necessarily, It's okay, No, no, I love I love the fact that she shoots Cooper.

Oh yeah, mm hmmmm hmm.

Anyway, Jacqueline, you want to say something.

Oh, I was going to say something about that lynching scene.

That was an idea for a scene that Romero had back in sixty eight, but due to racial tensions at the time, he thought it would be tasteless to include that, so he cut it out, which I think was the right call.

And so this was kind of an homage to that scene, you know, in a less racially fraught time.

So, like, two of my biggest fears with this for you, Jacqueline were that, a it was just going to toe too closely to the original to feel, you know, like a good remake to you, or you were not going to be so into Barbara being like heavy towards the end.

She gets it gets a little heavy towards the end, like she is like the chick with the gun and she's good, you know, but she's.

Oh, it's fine.

With me.

No, I like, I like that, I like that I wanted cheering on.

I mean, it's like her Ripley moment, right, and so I like, I'm I'm all about it.

And I, like I said before, I don't feel like this huge too closely to the bone of the original.

It's I think if it had been any more similar, it might be approaching the line for me.

But it's different enough that I'm okay with it.

Like it has a whole different ending.

Barbara's a different character, there's different dialogue.

I feel like the characters in some cases are portrayed differently, like Harry, and I feel like I enjoyed it enough on its own as its own movie, even having watched the original many times, and you know, fairly recently.

So I appreciate your concerns for my enjoyment, but they were not issued.

Those two things were not issues for me.

Was very worried that you were going to hate this movie.

I wasn't well.

I talked it up a little bit, like, oh, I hope she likes it.

So I was like, anytime I pick something, I'm always curious how Jacken's gonna lie, because there's sounds where I totally think I got it in the bag.

I'm actually gonna love this.

That's like, where's the pumpkins?

That don't you really thought you thought I was gonna love pumpkin had so much?

Where's the fucking boyd at?

Yeah, where's the fucking bullie?

There isn't one that's you know, what was good?

And there's the void.

A great callback in this was when fucking when Missus Cooper gets bit and you see the blood splatter on the troal.

It was used in the original to kill the mother in that one.

Yeah, that was a nice little bit.

This does have night and also the living dead in it, so I approve.

I approve.

That's my first criterion for anything.

If it doesn't have what the title says, zero.

You better deliver on your promises.

Yeah no, but uh Hydroberg.

Going off of Helen and Sarah, I don't know why her name is changed in this movie and the original.

It's Karen all the other I think all the other names are the same, but here they're not just for that one character, but that whole family.

I really like the portrayal of Helen and Harry.

I think Harry's so over the top in his villainy that it's like fun to watch and it makes that moment where I'm trying to say Patricia Barbara shoots even like particularly satisfying m And Plus I just really like Tom Towles.

I got real happy when I saw him so of c.

Yeah, well, I think he does the best he can with it.

I think he plays it as a really good villain.

The character itself is a little one note.

But no obviously, but I just feel like, I don't know, I just like watching him, Like his eyes they're so emotive and he's just like watching everybody darting around.

He's so fucking psycho like he's so hate herble.

It's like it's really fun to hate him in this movie.

He does not he does not trust anyone.

He does not help anyone, and he thinks he's helping his family, but he's so misguided and like narrow in his thinking that he's not doing anybody any good.

And it's it's it's a fun character to watch, and I think he really maximizes all the like like all that he really sucks all the juice out of that role.

I like his end too, that struggle of like when his daughter comes up the stairs and he can't shoot her, and then Ben's gonna do it and then then shoot each other.

And I kind of I like that they shoot each other, but I don't need them doing like a shootout after, Like there's kind of like a moment of chase and shooting more.

I don't know, the fact that they both wounded each other almost is enough that Ben could have got downstairs at some moment.

I don't know.

Did you think that the extra shooting was felt extra?

Like Ben shoots like maybe twice, but like that other guy like unloads that rifle like six times.

I think at a certain points it starts to feel like if I don't kill Animy, he's gonna kill me.

You know, there's it's really like about survival.

So like it made sense to me in the moment, how like things can just escalate so rapidly, especially when like weapons are involved.

So I mean it made sense.

You know, everybody's very emotional because of the situation, and like his you know, his daughter is a zombie and he just can't accept it.

So yeah, it made sense to me.

I think in the movie, Yeah.

It didn't bother me the way that it kept going, and in fact, I kind of like that scene that they actually wind up, you know, wounding each other, because I feel like, as much as I like the character of Ben and he is like a way better person than Harry is, he gets carried away too.

And he, you know, is not always thinking clearly or behaving rationally, and he sometimes makes wrong choices and is disrespectful to Harry and is sometimes getting caught up in petty, childish bullshit like what's her name, Judy Rose, Judy, Yeah, what's her name?

Yeah?

And she's like, you guys are acting like children and she.

Needs to shut up and share snacks.

Crying some much.

Well, but she's she's she chastises them for behaving like children, and that is true.

And Ben does engage in some childish behavior that I'm like, come on, you're better than this, Like just get back to what you know you need to do and stop fighting with this dickhead.

But I think, you know, he's not a perfect character.

He's not a saint, even though we like him.

And so I don't know, I feel like that shootout is I don't know, it just seems like a natural extension of this animosity that's been going on between for the whole movie.

You could see the tension too, Like Bob mentioned when Cooper's loading the rifle possibly to shoot zombies, but at the same time they're looting now the cop and she's like, get his gun, and then Cooper's starting to be like, well, if you get a gun, what are you going to do with it?

And then you could see the look on Ben when he's looking at you know, he's like, I'm going to pick up this gun.

What are you going to do now with your gun?

And obviously we see what happens.

I mean, if if the daughter wasn't in the room, that might have played out differently.

The problem the daughter was there and that's what the gun was going to be utilized for.

Yeah, but I like.

What they what they compared to the original movie that Cooper was actually trying to protect his family, even though he's like a chicken chit, but he's like trying to protect his family, that's it.

Yeah, but that's true, but he's being really.

Stupid about it and he's sure.

It's like it's kind of like Survivor if anybody's ever watched the show Survivor, Like, yeah, you have to survive, but survival is also partially a social game, and you can't you can't treat every when you're trying to survive and keep you know, your family safe.

You can't treat everyone around you with hostility and fail to work in partnership and collaboration with others.

You cannot like self isolate and make enemies with everybody.

Like that's not gonna work for you.

But that's exactly what he does here.

He does Yep.

Yeah, any characters, any characters in this that you don't like, uh, you know, based on any changes or like I think the uh which is Tom character.

He's all right, very dumb at the fucking shooting the lock on the on the That's.

Such a great scene though, Like that sequence with them get into the truck and it won't start, and then they finally get over the gas and for some reason she cuts the truck off again and it won't crank again, and then he shoots the lock and it blows up.

Like that's kind of it's such a like great moment because you're like, oh my god, something is like kind of going right, and there some of these people are like actually working together to achieve a common goal and then the dipshit just blows everything up and breathing at this screen.

You know, this is just panicking and ruins it all.

And the dudes, just like I said, continuously do dumb shit throughout this entire movie.

Yeah, Bob, I agree with you.

I love that moment too.

And I love that sort of moment in horror movies where there's some hope and then it gets totally dashed to pieces and you have no hope.

I this is this is that moment for me, and so I do love that.

And yeah, Hydroberger, I get your point.

Like the character of Tom is kind of myth.

But the thing I like about these movies, these you know, George Ramiro's Zombie Cycle and the various remakes and stuff and other imitators, is that, in like if there were a zombie apocalypse in real life and you have a group of survivors, not every character, not every character is gonna be like a hero or a bold character, like a character in the Forefront, Like some people are just kind of like regular people, and like not everybody's gonna have like a huge role, you know what I mean, And so it feels like a collection a milange, if you will.

Yeah, of like the various types of people that you would have if you had this collection of just random survivors who get thrown together.

Like, there's gonna be different personality types.

Some people are gonna be more active in this situation, some people are gonna sit back, some people are not gonna do much but cry or criticize or whatever, and some people are going to take action.

So the character of Tom is like kind of not that important to the story, but he does provide that great element characters.

It's not a bad character.

But actually felt like a little I don't know, it wasn't.

Yeah, it's like neutral for me, I guess, but like that sort of character, while not really adding much to the story, is like a type of person that could be there if there were just a you know, random assortment of survivor.

There was some exposition about like the house and the setting and stuff like that that kind of sets a mood.

So I like that's a mystery about what happened upstairs too, So I kind of like you find out about that.

Yeah, I kind of disagree.

I think the Tom character is actually the middle person.

It's like maybe I don't know, Ben and Barbara, you know, they're saying we got to do this, and then Cooper's like, no, we got to stay down here, and he's kind of like, I don't know, and sways back and forth, but ultimately ends up ups and trying to.

Like that moment too because Ben thinks you too.

Ben thinks he's gonna go downstairs because that's where he goes from him, and then he goes, Honey, come upstairs, and I like, Ben's like, oh shit, I want him over, you know.

You know what's funny though, is by the end Ben is downstairs in the cellar and Tom Towles is upstairs.

Yeah, that's right, And I do love I forgot that Tom survives Harry and then she shoots him another one for the fire.

Yeah, I love it.

I loved that.

It lingers long enough for you to be like, oh, he's absolutely still a human.

She just caps him anyway.

Yep, he's happy to see her.

You came back.

That puts Barbara in like a moral conundrum, like are we are like torn about this?

She was enjoying herself a little bit there at the end, so.

We probably should be, but I'm not.

Really He's like, good for her moment.

Well, he's not a sympathetic character.

You hate this gun.

Nobody's a zombie a human that's like murder.

We don't.

I don't hate that she kills him in in a way because I don't like him.

But at the same time, I kind of hate what it does for her character in a way, not in a bad way, but like what is it, Like you said, what is this going to do for her?

Because she was a good person and she still is a good person, but she just did commit murder, you.

Know, Like, yeah, it kind of debases her a little bit.

Yeah, he did, like try to kill Ben.

Yeah, I mean Ben tried to kill him back, so I don't know, Like.

Well, Ben tried to kill his daughter who was already dead, and then then after I feel like Ben defended himself.

But then, yeah, I guess you're right, because then Ben chases him up the stairs and tries to kill him kill himself.

I think there's some like moral gray areas to several of these characters, you know, but I feel like Ben and Barbara are our heroes, but they both I think make morally questionable choices.

Yeah, it's fair to.

Say, well, they've all been tainted by this event that happens you.

Know, well, isn't that what these movies are really about?

Yeah, even if you survive, do you you.

Know who's the monster?

Well she even says she's like them and us and them they are.

Where are the monsters?

That's where David Gordon Green got it from very subtle.

Evil.

Does the Living Dead Dies tonight again?

Again?

Do you have a favorite kill or a favorite like zombie?

I like that mechanic guy who was coming to the one that she uses as an example, like, let case shoot him in the head.

They're like, oh, you killed so and so and she's like, look the fucking back.

I like when Barbara two kind of goes like, oh that Ethiopian looking one or that came through the door, you look like a dolls them from fucking Street Fighter or something like that, the one that she shoots and she's like, is he dead now?

I like the one with his ass hanging out at the beginning.

You it makes perfect sense too when they got like the half suit on him because you know he's getting buried or whatever.

And yeah, I thought it was just like kind of like kind of smart I get.

And also, yeah, ass there you go?

What more ordered the poop poop Ladder.

The Perfect Zombie.

No Wang dude, though, No Huck minus a half star.

I would have liked a moment too at the end if if Barbara had put on Johnny's like driving gloves and then she was shooting the gun with like the driving glove on, you know what I mean, Like badass?

What Also, what a weird thing for like a brother to like say their horny at his sister right Like it's that's like so fucking weird to do.

He's coming to get you both and they're not.

They're not even like agers or like they're a groan and he's saying that.

It's like, I don't know, bizarre, very bizarre.

So so at the beginning of the movie, they're going to see their mom, their mom.

I love his rant about how she's so she's got to move a grape so far, just knowing that they have going to have to travel that far.

To It's like he's like it's two hundred miles away from the nearest beer or something.

He has something like that.

It's like, dude, like your mom's dead.

Yeah, well I feel like she's been dead for a while.

Maybe it's been like four months.

Yeah, I didn't think it was that long.

He says, we've gone to visit her three times in the past four months or something.

Yeah, m hm, right, something like that like that.

Yeah.

I really did like his character though, and a little bit in there.

I forget he did.

I didn't notice he doesn't come back though, right.

No, I think it comes out he did his zombies, I think.

Okay, I thought he does the house.

Yeah, I thought he does, right, Yeah, okay.

I might have looked down at my notes when that happened and when I was rewatching is sometimes.

Yeah, they didn't mention the word zombie.

Correct, Oh, they wouldn't know what it is.

Do we think it was?

Did they mention the media write in this in the news.

I don't remember hearing it.

I didn't hear anything like that, did y'all?

I think they mentioned like two or three different things that could have done it, But I don't remember a meteorite.

Remember, chemical, toxic chemical?

Yeah I heard that.

Uh, there's something else, but it didn't make any sense it was and it was not that.

I don't think.

I don't know.

Yeah, I can't.

I can't remember what they say.

Yeah, they rattle off a handful of things, but I don't remember a meteorite being one of them.

Now, there was originally going to be just a moment, like a you know, a shot where like a shooting star was crossing the sky at the beginning, So that might have been like a little clue, you know, kind of a clover Field type thing.

But that was kind of take a look, it's in a book the reading.

So I will say that Tom Savigni had a lot more, according to him, had a lot more creative ideas for this movie that did not get included.

It sounds like producers were very heavily involved, and some of my trivia is about that, so I might as well just say it here.

But he had a lot of ideas that may have changed, you know, made the movie more distinct from the original than what we got.

But he, you know what I read said that if George Romero was not on the set, that the producer is basically kind of bullied Tom Savini into like doing things their way and like trying to cut scenes that you know, for no apparent reason, because he was on schedule and on budget during the you know, the production of the film, and yet producers were kind of on his ass and forcing him to cut.

Out this and that first film.

Yeah, it was his first film as a director, and so I.

Think it was her last too.

I was gonna say, is this his only No?

I thought Theater Bizarre like this, this is very confident film, Like even if you don't like the you know, the story or whatever, like, it's still a good Filmo.

Do you see Theater Bizarre?

I think it might have been just like a street to DVD kind of joint.

I've never heard of it.

It's an anthology bizarre.

Yeah, there was an anthology film, and I'm pretty sure he directed it.

I bought a cop be at the at Spooky Empire some years ago, but I think he directed that.

But besides these two projects, I'm not aware of any directory.

I'd like to see him director.

Yeah, as a first time director, it sounded like he had a lot of ideas that got stymied by producers, and he is quoted as saying that only about forty percent of his ideas made it into the film.

Like why the guy for the job If you're just going to be like shutting him down with every other idea, you know?

I bet this was one of those things where like George was like I want him on, and the producers probably tried to get another director.

I could see, but Thomas so invested in this project.

It's most it's like his right, So I could see something like that.

You know, they're just being like, all right, we're going to work with him, but we're gonna be fucking all over him about everything.

I can also see him being on budget because he's in charge.

He's the effects guy, so he knows what they need to get that shit done.

Yeah, so he'd probably be very efficient there and be able to say some.

Money, Like actors salaries are static, like that's not going to change.

That's agreed on ahead of time, so it's not like that's going to inflate.

But and so, but I did read that toom.

Savigni has like a kind of a work print on VHS that has more of this stuff he wanted to include.

Not everything he wanted to do actually got filmed, but some of it did, and then it was just for coming out out and so he some years ago he he screened it at like a midnight showing at a festival or something, and he was like, it was actually the first time I'd ever watched you know that cut of it straight through as an objective viewer, and it was really good.

So I hope to be able to see that.

Yeah, that four K that's coming out.

I know they're putting a lot of cut stuff back into I don't know how much.

Maybe it is exactly what he has, so I get that.

And the black and the black and white beginning is going to be in there.

Yes, who's putting he's actually super stoked about it.

I don't know.

It's uh, it's getting like a steel book release.

I don't think it's a bootique label, So whoever owns it, I don't know if it's like Warner Brothers or whoever.

I can't remember.

It's called the Horny Edition.

It's you can like pre order it already.

I think it just came up for pre order a couple of days ago.

Actually, so Donuts.

You want to see more about Thompson be and he checked out that what it's called like smoking Mirrors.

I think it's it's good.

Doctor is really good.

You know.

I know it's good because it's like one of those ones where you like you're like, fuck, it's over, Like I wanted to see more about the person or the thing that they were talking about, well give it.

Back story like of him going to Vietnam and stuff and everything that he saw over there was just like, oh that's interesting.

Guy, And he did something affected him emotionally but also was inspiring to him as an effects guy.

Yes.

Absolutely, he's a painter too.

I follow him on Instagram.

He has some sick paintings like hardy.

Do not know that?

Yeah, like follow right now.

There's a lot of Yeah, it does really cool, like like fam of the Opera and like old Monster Monster film sort of paintings and shings like that, really cool stuff.

He's a talented dude.

That's why it's so like sucks that he I could picture him like making a bunch of cool horror films throughout the years since this one, Like yeah, this came out ninety.

Imagine all those years he was making horror films like Carpenter and shit, who knows what he would have made.

Well.

I would suggest it the next time I see him at a con, but I don't really want to pay money to talk get at a con.

Yeah, he's kind of prickly in person.

I've not met a good word for it.

Yeah, Like I don't know, usually a nice kind of warm response from people that I meet at CON's, but he was not particularly warm.

He seemed like inconvenienced.

Yeah, I forget what I had him signed now, I forget if it was from dust Till Dawn or Donna the Dead or what.

But I had him sign something.

I have him signed, my fucking crouch.

Damn for you.

I don't know what to say to that.

So honey, for you, Barbara, Barbara Burg she does it from me too.

She's very attractive.

What do we think about the change in the ending from you know, in the original Ben gets shot by I don't know.

I don't know if they're law enforcement or just some local yahoos or whatever, but basically, he's the window for being a zombie.

Yeah, through the window.

He's shot because they think he's a zombie.

And this one he actually does become a zombie and who shoots him at.

The end, Barbara, the guy with sixty that's right, that's.

Right, Okay, okay?

So do we like this change?

That's okay?

I mean I kind of wish in a way.

I don't dislike it, but I don't love it.

I think it's it's fine.

Which do you prefer, Bob.

I think the ending of the original is more impactful.

I think the ending of this is like, uh, it's it's you know.

I guess you could say it's like satisfying narratively, whereas the original ending is more satisfying and like a like message kind of way.

Also, it's impactful for him his character.

Barber's character wasn't really much in that one, right, and then then the ending here is very more impactful.

I guess for her, they're leaning more on her.

Sure, it's true, I guess the original the ending in the original feels more bleak and tragic.

Mm hmm.

Yeah, I actually like the original because the way he's crawling out the window is almost like a zombie like, the kind of slumping over and sliding out the window, and it's just like and then.

Like the bleakness of that though, I do too.

I did too, So I would say the fact.

That he was crawling to safety and was mistaken for one, it's so fucking right.

But the way he slides out the window is just like, you know, it's a lifeless body that's just reanimated.

There's a vibe all that, you know too.

I don't know exactly, I feel like unless you know he's a goner, like he shot twice.

I don't really think I think he thinks he's not gonna pull through either.

I don't know what do you think?

I agree with that?

Surprised?

Yeah, I really like the house that they use in this movie.

It looks a lot like the house in the original, and it looks just so beat up.

And run down all the locations.

Yeah, it feels like there's not that much in this house that's going to like help you, you know.

It feels just a little ramshackle, not particularly sturdy.

Yeah.

Fortunately it's got a fucking wrap around porch so that all the zombies can get right up to the windows and you, Yeah, there you go, we have a reach around porch.

I gotta get me one of those.

Damn you need a lot of leg room on those ones.

They're all the rage in the sixties.

Yeah, do they install it?

Did the boys stay around afterwards?

Like the way you handle that wood?

Heiderberger, I thought you were an expert on construction.

You, of all people, as the writer of the Reach Around, and as a construction expert, I would expect you to know about the reach around porch.

All reach arounds are performed at a ninety degree angle.

You don't want the angle to be too acute.

I need a couple of clean forty fives as well.

I don't know worrying about anymore.

And this one's off, This one's off just by a contaire?

What what?

What is he talking about?

Does anybody know?

Yeah, that's a trade term.

Rob Zombie says that when he's whenever he does trade work, you're taking off sliver just a little bit enough, just a little bit of contaire.

A measurement.

You keep saying that mystery standard.

You know it's you get a ruler and it's.

H Yeah, it's on the ruler, it's on the Yeah, all right, I'm broke to.

Take a closer look at mind yet John doesn't break so easily.

But there he went.

I'm done, John, John, I measured my wang.

Dude will buy con hairs when anybody ever asked, that's how I tell them.

It's it's about the two of them, two thousand con hairs.

Two thousand.

I could still be small, who knows, hue, Because it's two really long ones.

Though, John, you're measuring the length of the hair's thickness, So we're talking a millimeters.

The industry standard.

We need a new John.

I'm done.

That was a yeah.

I think I think we once you get to cunt hairs, I think we've covered.

That's that's my measurement right there.

Okay, there you go.

Well, unfortunately gonna okay, well, geez, way to spoil it.

I'm just kidding, Hydroberg.

This was your pick first.

Yeah, I'm actually I don't really know, Like I kind of know how I feel about this movie, but I don't really know like what a number it would be, you know what I mean, Like for this one seems it's it's different.

I don't know, because I don't want to hold it up too high, because I do, Yeah, I do hold the original as one of the best horror films ever made in my opinion, Like it might may not be a perfect film, but it did so much for horror, and it's a you know, it's got a great story behind it, even though it's a little tragic that, you know, he didn't make money on it and stuff, but he still had a career out of it and made some great films after.

And I think this is a great homage to that man, to George from another great horror creator Tom Sari.

I think to have him do one movie.

I think it's a great movie.

It's similar enough to the original but also different.

It's you know, it's like a love letter, but it's also it's its own thing.

I love the more assertive Barbara, but I also love like the touches of the original with her, Like there's moments where she slips and falls, and you know, she has a panic, like naturally you would you'd be scared.

This is a weird you know, it's the dead of walking the earth, Like this is not normal everyday shit.

So like, yeah, she has some panic, but she gets a hold of herself and she has her moment of like crying it out or whatever, and then you know, taps into something that's there.

I like giving her that arc for this movie.

I like the touches of changing some of the things that were maybe flaws in the original.

I like that George was aware of that too and wanted to directify that.

I especially loved Patricia Tolman's take on Barbara, and I also like Tony Todd's Ben.

I thought you could tell that he was really paying homage to a role in acting that must have been probably very monumental for black actors as well, you know what I mean, Like in the African Americans, the Ben character is such a great character in the original and it wasn't you know, none of that stuff was really intentional.

It was just because he was a good actor.

But it all worked in a in a great way I think for society and social norms and stuff like that.

You know.

I quite enjoy the cast overall though, like the acting all around, some solid performances.

I thought Tom Toowles kills it as Cooper like he does.

He leans in heavy, but it kind of want him to.

He's fun to watch, you know, you hate him, you love to hate him.

Tom.

Yeah, maybe he's a little blob, but I think that's kind of like the point, like you said, Jacquelin.

And also, you know the actors.

A younger guy, you know, he kind of played it like whoa, I don't know, you know, but he's trying to help.

He's just not as assertive as the other guys.

Like one guy's a coward, but he's still assertive in his in his cowardness, you know, like Harry still balls even though he's kind of a coward.

He's just more of a talker until later he's got when he's got a gun in his hand.

I like to score a decent bit.

It's not perfect.

There's some like weird moments or but I think that's the point.

We're trying to go with that weird sci fi blend from the first one that was thrown together and pay homage there.

So it's pretty good.

There's a couple of moments where it does ramp up I like, and it's the tension.

I think the gore's fantastic.

There's no like one standout moment in particular, just like jumps at at me.

But I think it's all it's like, constantly consistently good is what I like about it.

Like nothing ever looked because a couple of moments of dummy work.

Yeah here or there where she's hitting the guy over the head with the poker and her brother's death looks a little fanicky, a little weird.

But I also, oh yeah, fucking Bill Moseley.

Just gotta give props to him.

He did a great job.

I also think Savini just directed a good looking film.

It looks great, the settings look great, the cemetery looks great.

The overview of like where she runs to, Like I can kind of picture this world too, like where she ran to and where the house is.

Like Jacquelin said, the how looks you know, it's all believable.

It's all real, real settings.

It looks lived in.

I think it's a you know, the original feels that way too, but I think this, you know, this one helps you really put put you in the shoes of what's going on here and the virus.

I think I think it's a solid remake.

But you know, it doesn't do anything crazy new.

It just kind of pays homage to this one, and then it kind of it corrects some things and then changes the end a good bit, which I do appreciate.

There's some critiques though, Like I do think it sticks.

It sticks a little close to the original.

I could see that being aritique for some you know, like it's a fine line.

I think the drama plays out a little extra here and there.

Sometimes it feels a little long in the tooth, as Bob might say, Uh, and some of these stuff upstairs right just the the mindless zombie noises and the banging and the hammering and the screaming.

It feels like there's a little extra like we could have done something else with that time, even if it was like action show me some like outside moments are like oh, they're getting in the kitchen, but directed differently.

It just all felt like we were being assaulted.

Maybe that was the point to like kind of tire you out a little bit, but it makes for a little drag.

There's like a lot of lingering shots of the zombies, and I think that was just kind of show off the extras and the work and you know, the effects, but you know, it feels like a little bit of bloat to a short film.

It's a little repetitive in those moments, you know, and Cooper and Ben having a shoot at at the end felt a little extra.

It's believable.

It just felt like a couple extra shots were fired then we needed.

I don't know, just for me, I would have cut it a little shorter, but the impact is still there.

And I do like the whole point of like the court, like his daughter's corpse coming upstairs and him having that conundrum.

He's a shitty character, but I get his plight there, you know.

For sure.

Overall I think it's a pretty good remake.

So I think with all that said, I'm gonna come in with Tom Servines and I living dead.

I think I'm gonna give it a seven point five out of ten Horney Barbers.

What well you can go off of Honey Barbers.

And obviously if John wanted to, he could drop a content.

No, we're not doing that again.

I'm fine, now.

Okay, all right, I'm just writing that down.

I didn't even actually have a measurement yet.

I was like, do I go with lost keys, like wrong keys?

Do I go with Yoyo's?

I don't know.

I don't know.

There's so many choices.

Maybe some of that meat that was in the pan on the stove, we didn't even really.

Long had that been on there.

I'm surprised I hadn't caught on fire.

I'm surprised Tony didn't burn his hand when he picked up the pan to slap that motherfucker.

She turned the heat off.

Yeah, I don't know if it was made of steel.

What a cool down in ten minutes, Tony to just he's just a cool motherfucker.

That's why I didn't bother.

That's true, Bob.

Would you like to give your review next?

Sure?

Yeah, I think just in general, this is a fairly successful and just just like a nice update to a classic horror movie that I think might be a little bit difficult for some people who aren't like totally into the genre to watch it all really Like I remember, like the first time I put it on the nineteen sixty eight version, it is like it's extremely dated and it is a little bit slow.

So I think this is just sort of knocking some of the dust off, some of the cobwebs off, and it updates some some of the characters in a way that is better suited for like a more modern palette.

I think Barbara's character is obviously a very strong woman in this movie, and she's a great character, and I love that she says exactly what they need to do early in the movie and then at the end of the day she does it and survives.

You know.

It's Tony Todd, I think is a great cast and call for to play Ben.

I think seeing him in this this was before he did Candy Man, and like he that moment when he steps out of the truck with a hook, it's like, man like they really paid off in a in a strange way that nobody could have known about.

But I think he does a great job with a character been there's some really good moments, Like the beginning of this movie I think is a great moment.

The really the beginning in the end, I guess, you know, like I think Jacqueline you mentioned, the middle is up maybe a little bit boring, you know, as they're like fortifying the house and it's it's it's difficult to make that really interesting, right, But the ending definitely stands out to me too.

Here the updates and the changes that they've made.

I like the idea of the just everybody immediately going to like their baser instincts and like just getting hammered in the woods and entertaining themselves by like torturing these these zombies there that were humans like maybe yesterday, maybe as soon as yesterday, you know, or a few hours ago or whatever.

You know, it's just like true, it's it's rough, man.

And I think somebody even asks Barbara, like you having fun and like or she asked somebody I can't remember, and it's just like fun should not be in the equation right now.

It's just insane.

But that feels very believable, you know.

I think it's a pretty strong ending, especially you know, when she kills what's his face, Hooper?

Is that his name?

Cooper?

At the end of the Cooper, Thank yeah, Cooper at the end of the movie.

I think it's a very satisfying like way to end this movie, way to land the plane.

So yeah, it's it's it's not like reinventing the wheel here, and I think it's it's paying homage and putting a lot of love into you know, the trying to update an original a classic, you know, and Savini I believe was handpicked by Romero to do it, and that's just that's also kind of a nice touch.

And hopefully Romero got some money off of this movie, because he definitely didn't get any off the original, which is a total so overall crime.

Yeah, overall, pretty good, pretty good remake.

I'm gonna give this a seven out of ten.

Cornie Barbara's all right, John, what are your thoughts about Night of the Living Dead nineteen ninety Wow?

Actually what Hydieberg and Bob said.

I agree with one hundred percent.

However, it's just it didn't land with me.

I love the original.

You know, there's stuff in it the original where he's just like, yeah, this is dating You're absolutely right, Bob.

It's like this is so dated but more updated in this movie.

It just didn't hit with me so quickly.

Acting was fantastic in this movie.

All around.

I loved it.

Yeah, there were some slow parts.

I love the zombies.

The gore was like better because obviously Thom Savina is going to give you the gore.

But I don't think I saw everything that he could provide, you know, as a director.

So you know, hopefully they have this director's cut that comes out and gives us that and put it on streaming.

Because sorry, I'm sorry, Bob, Bob physical media collector.

But you do what you gotta do.

Man, I'm gonna say six point five at a ten ornie Bob bob us okay or cut hairs.

Oh my gosh, sorry, either one.

They're interchangeable.

Really, this is the most time we said the word cut without covering of Rob zombie.

Film because he'll skull fuck you.

Okay, Oh my gosh, Jacqualae.

That do you feel about Not a Living Dead nineteen ninety Yeah?

I like it a lot.

I think Bob is absolutely right in saying that the original, as important and good as it is, admittedly does feel kind of dated, I think, you know, even to a hardcore fans like us, Like I think we can admit that it feels a little dated these days, sure, and is not super accessible to a wider audience who are not necessarily like us.

And so I like the the Bob.

I like the way you said it.

That's kind of like dusting it off and updating it, making it feel a little fresher for modern audiences.

And I completely agree with that.

I like I like the acting.

I think it feels a little more natural in this version.

Like I said, I think the dialogue has been fleshed out a little more, so it feels more full.

That's that's as close as a descriptors I can get.

But I think that's ultimately a good thing.

I think that some positive changes were made, like the character of Barbara, obviously that's the biggest plus for me, but also some cool effects like the gas explosion scene and the you know, the gore with the zombies looks better.

Obviously it's more modern, bigger budget, you have Tom Savini doing it, so it's good, but it's not over the top, like it's not a gross out movie, you know.

And so I think there's a lot of positivity there, there's a lot that's kind of neutral for me, Like the stuff that sticks so closely with the original just feels like it didn't require a lot of creativity, and so that's just kind of neither good nor bad for me.

It's just like, okay, so we're just kind of repeating it's not bad.

But you know, I can't really offer a comment on it because it didn't a lot of it doesn't feel like a creative choice.

And then the negatives, I would say, I can really only think of two things that are specific negatives for me.

One of those being that I I like the ending, but I don't think it hits as hard in terms of a message, like Bob said as the original like it's it feels gratifying, but the bleakness of the ending I think fits better with the film's message.

So Bob, I I agree with you one hundred percent on that.

I think it's spot on.

Like I kind of want to feel a little downbeat at the end of this.

I like the tragedy of Ben's end in the original from nineteen sixty eight.

And my other criticism is, as I said before, the draggy pace in the middle.

It's too short of a movie for that to have happened, And I think that could have been corrected if they had developed another problem to overcome in the script during that time.

So the whole gas tank thing where they have to find the keys.

We can't find the keys.

We got to find the keys and get the truck to thing.

Oh no, Ben fell out, Oh we gotta get them.

Oh it's locked, we don't have the keys.

Up in a bloat of like that was a good problem that took up some narrative time to spend solving and it paid off with like a wow moment.

Right, It didn't actually solve any problems for them, but it was you know, in a story like this, it's it's reasonable to have several attempts at something that don't work out, right, Like you have to be posed with problems, attempt to overcome them, and then fail, you know, before you can succeed.

If that's the direction the movie's going is towards like a success, and so it's like, why not introduce another obstacle, like maybe somebody comes up with another idea for how they can get out, or maybe they actually listen to Barbara and try to walk out of there.

But then something happens that prevents them from doing that, maybe like there's a you know, the bridge where they can cross the river is washed out or something so they can't actually get I don't know, but something that prevents them from making an escape or having some kind of success towards a goal, right, And so I feel like that would have been a better use of time than the repetitive like, oh no, the zombies are pushing through the door, let's nail it up again.

Oh no, a hand grabbed my wrist like that happens so many times, And so I feel like that's how that could have been corrected and would have moved the pace along a little more.

It would have kept my interest a little bit better.

But I was feeling a little dozy during some of that that middle portion there.

So it's it is.

It is kind of a mixed mixture here, like it's it's a mixed bag.

I think there's a lot that is positive about this remake.

I think it's a really nice update.

It's very watchable.

I think even you know, even though it's thirty five years old now, and goodness gracious, you know, I still think it's pretty watchable for modern audiences.

I think it's it's well done, the characters are compelling, and it feels pretty natural.

I think Tom Towle's character is just I love to hate that guy.

That's a great villain.

Super fun, super fun.

But then there's a lot, you know, like I said, that's neutral, and then a couple of couple of drawbacks there.

So I'm gonna I'm gonna give this like a six point five out of ten.

What is it, horny Barbara's I'll give it a six point five.

It's good, it's good.

I'd watch it again.

But now, yeah, I really want to see that uncut version and maybe that would maybe that would go up even further.

I do feel disappointed at learning that toom Savini was stymied by producers, and I would like to have seen what his full potential would unleash.

So those fucking producers, damn money man, ruining everything, you know?

After about the money.

After a rewatch, either of this version or of the uncut version that comes out in a few months, like, maybe that score would go up.

But for now, on a first watch, I'm giving it six point five.

Ye fair enough?

All right, y'all want to hear some trivia.

Yeah, okay, oh wait, we've forgot about Cooter of the Week.

Sorry involved it's uh, it's Cooper.

Oh no, it's the horn, it's Johnny.

It's I mean that doesn't have to be the producers too, you.

Know, yeah, got the gloves though he's got looking at tire.

No.

I think it's the guy with his ass out.

Yeah, but he didn't have a choice.

Johnny looks like the kind of guy that uses the word measurement.

He was dressed for the occasion.

You know that's true.

It was appropriate for the occasion, all right.

So I don't know if you guys remember this from when we covered Not a Living Dead and Down of the Dead back during October to Romero.

But there was a news reporter in both movies that was a real news reporter onits remember, I'm glad you remember.

So that is Chili Billy in this movie.

So I'm glad to have him.

He's the guy with the iPad?

Is he the radio?

Okay?

Radio?

So Chili Billy appears as a reporter in both versions.

So I like that.

Uh, you know, I love trivia about who could have played this role.

Laurence Fishburne and Eric LaSalle both auditioned for the role of Ben.

Yeah you are okay?

Yeah?

Uh.

Tom Savini is a personal is personal friends with Patricia Tollman.

They went to college together, and so he you know, picked her because he knew her well and thinks of her as somebody with a strong willed character, and so that was a deliberate choice on his part side, like I like, knowing that they were friends in real life.

Good choice, man.

So we've talked about scenes that were cut out and you know, different cuts of this film and all that.

So the original cut of this film would have earned an X rating from the MPAA, which you know, made them need to cut some out to achieve that R rating.

There was a close up of the fire poker in the head of the first zombie that Barbera kills.

There was a gory headshot of the Magruder zombie, you know, and he's like, you can't shoot him, that's mister McGruder.

So there was a you know, a gory shot of that.

No I heard there was just a sexy ass kiss between that zombie and Tony Toy that had to be cut out too.

Yeah, it was too too explicit, too.

Graphic hes on the he was on the warm side of the door, that zombie.

There was a dick monster in Bosa, Fred, Okay.

That's true, I got it all reading times.

Times have changed, John.

There was a mail kissing.

That's fine, Joh, this was nineties.

They weren't kind of dead on undead kissing.

Can't have it.

Dead on dead kissing.

You have living on living.

You can't have living on it.

Stick with your own clind you can't have inter living status.

There was a bloody a bloodier version of the scene where Barber shoots and kills the bald zombie who tries to come through the window.

There was Tom blowing off the zombie's head with a shotgun and Barber killing another zombie when she takes the gun from the dead cop zombie.

So there's more graphic scenes of all that stuff that was that was cut out to achieve the R rating.

Oh, this one is bothersome.

So the man who comes through the window after they throw McGruder out was a cab driver.

So they say the man who comes through the window.

But it's like, I feel like I saw a hundred guys come through the window.

So I don't know which guy this is, but he was actually a cab driver that Tom Savini hired to transport extras to and from the set, and so he asked him if he wanted to play a zombie in the movie, which he accepted, and according to Patricia Tullman, during filming, he started stalking her and kept kept, you know, repeating Bill Moseley's line by saying there, I'm gonna get you.

Barbara were stalking her and saying I'm gonna get that you weird, Like that's disturbing.

I don't like that.

That's that's what happens when you can't really vet people, you know, Oh my god, I was saying.

Uh.

So.

The movie was not well received when it was first released and didn't do great at the box office.

It didn't do horrible, like it turned a little profit, but it wasn't a smash hit.

Opinions are still split, but it seems to have gained more positive reviews in hindsight.

Like you know, nowadays, people seem to look back on this more fondly than critics did at the time.

I have some quotes that I would like to read you later because I'm always interested in like Eberts critics at the time, I'll tell you, oh shit.

Uh.

The special effects team intentionally kept the effects somewhat restrained, as they felt that excessive gore would be disrespectful to the original film, I think, so to keep the effects realistic, they used as inspiration autopsy footage, forensic pathology textbooks, and Nazi death camp footage.

No, so there's that.

That's great, like physical too.

It's not even like the internet type stuff like that would be like you have to own that kind of stuff too soon.

No, I don't know.

But now, Tom Savini said he didn't want to get like he didn't want this to be like a splatter film.

He wanted to keep it more artistic.

So it's yeap okay.

So this was kind of interesting.

I'm curious if you guys know anything about this, because I don't.

Did you notice that on the front wall of the house, on the exterior, it says m Celeste.

I didn't even notice.

Yeah, it says m Celestial.

While I was watching the movie, I was like, huh, I wonder if that's like I mean, was it like a fortune teller who lived here, like Madame Celeste or something like that.

That sounds like a fortune teller's name.

But I felt like it was featured very prominently, and I noticed it several times during the movie.

Well I found trivia about it.

Maybe it meant to say Moleste.

Like that's why that guy was stock he thought he was supposed to stalk her.

No, so this seems to be an homage to the sailing ship the Mary Celeste, which was discovered in the Atlantic Ocean, totally unmanned but still sailing and in perpish condition.

Yeah, it was in perfect condition.

There was no like damage to the boat, there was food on board, everything seemed totally normal.

But one of the lifeboats was missing, and so it's been this like mystery.

And so this was apparently like a symbolic representation of like the house.

Like the house seems totally normal, but there there's like this danger all around.

So, like the ship, the house was relatively undamaged by its ordeal and could have been immediately occupied.

According to Tom Savini's commentary on the DVD, the name is a deliberate reference to the state of the house.

So had you ever heard of the Mary Celeste the ship?

No?

No, that freaks me out though.

That kind of thing that is freaky.

Yeah, it's kind of like Roanoke, you know, like everybody, Yeah.

Like where did its aliens?

There you go, let's see.

So Patricia Toman was actually working more as a stunt woman at this time than an actress, and she was known for or her work on Babylon Five, which I've never watched.

But there you go.

You guys underwhelmed.

Yeah, so I never I never saw it.

Ving Rams Ving Rams was considered for the role of Ben, which didn't happen, but he did show up spoiler alert.

He showed up in two thousand and four in the remake of Donna the Dead, So that's cool.

Wow.

I wonder for covering that.

Maybe we should.

Tom Savigni called the production of this movie the worst nightmare of his life.

Yeah, with all this stretch.

Bad experience, Yeah, bad, bad experience.

Maybe that's why he didn't direct any more films.

Maybe it's just like that was a shitty experience.

I'm not I think so.

Yeah, Yeah, it sounds like the most likely explanation.

Man Barbara was almost played by Caroline Williams of Texas Chainsaw Massacre to fame stretch oh stretch, yep, But due to scheduling conflicts.

Oh, she was unable to take the role.

So oh well, but Patricia Tollman, So I'm sure stretch would have been good too.

Yeah, she was too busy DJing.

All right, terrible chip.

So I mentioned this one before, but it's worth I think repeating.

This version was made mainly to address an issue of the open copyright of the original film, with the remake script drafted solely.

Oh, I guess it was solely written by Romero.

This version allowed the rights to finally be nailed down to Romero.

So nice.

I didn't say it as eloquently before, but this is more specific.

So.

And also by allowing tom so you need to direct, George was able to keep the film in like the Dead Family if you will here.

So I like that.

Yeah, so George Romero has stated that the reason he wrote Barbara differently this time was to apologize to women for the original film, where quote she loses her shoes, falls down and tiptoes like a nineteen fifties maiden in distress.

So again, I appreciate that.

She does in that movie.

This film is included and Roger Ebert's Most Hated List because he felt that Romero had just made the same movie a second time.

Did he watch it?

It's no Psycho remake.

It's not like that.

Mm hmm.

It's close enough that I would see him having an objection.

It's hard to please, and it's there's there often doesn't seem to be rhyme or reason to it, Like there are movies that I think that he's gonna hate, and then when I read the review it's positive, and then vice versa.

So I don't know.

He's a tough, tough one to figure out.

The budget for this movie was four point two million, and it earned five point eight million at the box office, so little profit.

But didn't Roger Ebert write a porno or a softmore porn what?

I don't know?

Did he?

I think so?

Or Co wrote I'm a little bit afraid to google that no one of you guys do it, and then you tell.

Me I'm not doing it either.

Although Cynthia Freeland from Pop Matters says that the original film's depiction of Barbara makes for better cinema, but and that the more feminist friendly update of Barbara is too derivative of standard Final Girl tropes.

Well, which would you rather have?

Cynthia what do you want her to be like Trophy as a strong character?

Do you want her to be a sniveling baby?

I'm just saying, got a tonic.

I don't think that's a I don't think that's a fair criticism.

No.

Back in the day when it was first released, Entertainment Weekly gave this movie a D plus and wrote, in the History of bad ideas, George Romero's decision to produce a color remake of his disturbingly frenzied nineteen sixty eight zombie fest Night of the Living Dead has to rank right up there with New Coke.

That's actually pretty funny.

Oh god.

The original Night was taken by some to be a statement about the Vietnam War.

This one isn't about anything larger than Romero's desire to make a buck.

I don't think that's fair.

And to me, that shows that the this reviewer does not know the history of the original film and how Yumiro didn't make anything on it, and so I don't I don't think that's a fair criticism.

Gaggery Jack, that was terrible review.

Right, Well, it's just like they clearly just don't know the background there.

Roger Ebert gave it one out of four stars, writing the remake, of course he did, the remake is so close to the original.

Hey, that's better than zero.

Yeah, true, better than zero, saying the remake is so close to the original that there's no reason to see both disagree.

But okay, rip Roger, but fuck off.

No.

New York Times was a bit more generous New York Times.

Again, these reviews were from you know that at the time it was released.

New York Times said there was no real need to remake a film that lives on the campy cult appeal it's acquired over time.

But as b movies and remakes go, this one knows how to bring tired zombies back to life.

So that's I think that's fair.

I mean, that's what you need, that's what you're asking for.

I mean, you can't to remake.

You're not going to get a ton of news, especially in this genre.

I feel like, yeah, depending on the movie, it.

Was Aliens, it was Aliens, and last but not least, The Chicago Tribune said they gave it three out of four stars and wrote that although Savini's direction is a bit too literal, the film contains some intriguing further development of the ideas of the first film, as well as some mistakes corrected and dramatic relationships tightened.

I agree with that.

What do you all think?

I agree?

Yeah.

So that's it.

That's all I've got for trivia, y'all.

So Roger Ebert wrote, I think a couple horns from what I can see here.

One's called Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, directed by Russ Meyer, who I guess was a somewhat notable porn director.

And then there's another one called Up that apparently is a softcore porn involving Nazis.

So is there also an old man with balloons on his house?

You know, I haven't seen the film, but maybe you guys can review that next week and let everybody know the Nazis.

Okay, I'm good.

I'll be sick that week.

I'm good.

Sounds like he wrote some interesting stuff, Bob, Thanks for taking one for the team.

And I have to know, I was like, damn well, I had heard that that he wrote some of those movies.

Beyond the Value Razy.

I've heard of that movie, but I've never watched it, nor do I wonder John how is.

He a film critic?

Who like assesses and evaluates the quality of films.

When he wrote porno films, that's just crazy.

But okay, got to start somewhere.

Fair point, fair point.

Didn't act in porn films.

Good more.

That gave me a shiver, not in a good way.

You get that silent You got that silent Bob sort of?

I mean, I'm sorry, what's his name from the Simpsons?

Oh side show, Bob?

You just be sizing everybody's performance on set.

All right.

So that's it for a Night of the Living Dead from nineteen ninety Heiderberg, thanks for picking that.

I'm glad I had a reason to watch it.

Nice, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

I did.

I did.

Yeah, I would like to see the uncut version.

Now I'm kind of curious about that, so said, give the people what they want, John, all right, So next week, John, it's your pick.

What have you got for us?

Well, we're going in the future two thousand and four.

We're doing Dawn at the Day Zack Snyder.

Yes, yeah, with mister Ving Raims who could have been in the tonight's movie but wasn't.

We're doing Zack Schneider's Batman versed Superman.

No, we're not.

That's not what's happening.

We're never doing a three hour movie.

Yet we're doing Never Never John Oh.

Sucker Punch.

I'm I'm curious, Bob, would you think of Doda the remake?

Just I like it.

I haven't seen it in a while, but I I don't.

I actually think I prefer it to the original.

The tone of the original.

It's kind of wonky for me.

It's my least favorite of the original Romero trilogy.

But uh yeah, it was pretty good.

I think talk about it.

I'll refrain from comment at this time.

But more importantly, Bob, what do you think about the Langole ears.

I've never seen it, like starting to finish.

It used to be on TV all the time as a kid, and I saw, like, you know, flashes of it and it looked fucking bizarre.

But I don't know.

It didn't look good.

I guess I don't.

I can't really have a full opinion because I haven't seen it.

Okay, I'm just curious.

He but he has seen some of it, do you hear that?

Hydroberg Some Yeah, I feel like we've all seen some of it.

Somehow, nobody's seen all of it.

You said, nobody's seen it, nobody ever finished.

It my toilet after I took a dumb Oh my god.

I give your opinions zero of ten.

More we talk about it, the closer we get to covering it one day, so we're not.

Keep bringing it off.

Do it, do it.

I'll watch it when you all cover it.

We're gonna do it on the Patreon.

It's gonna be the first Patreon four.

You want to hear us, You want to hear us talk about langliars?

You got to pay twenty five dollars.

Oh my god, definitely.

Talking to you.

Oh my gosh.

Okay, Well, anyway, fellas, it's been great, Bob, Thank you so much for how many.

Q coins with that.

Twenty five dollars?

Oh that right now?

That might get you about one one hundredth of a q A coin the great to the moon man.

I'm about to buy some.

Yeah, get in now, now's the time to buy, did.

You all right?

Well, fellas, it's been great, Bob, thanks so much for coming on.

We'll be covering Dawn of the Dead from two thousand and four next week, but in the meantime, feel free to write in and tell us your thoughts on Night of the Living Dead?

Which one do you like better?

I'm very curious what people think I really am.

So if you want to write in, you can email us at a cut above Horror review at gmail dot com.

You can also follow us on x at cut above Horror.

Yeah, if you want to write in and let us know what kind of hairs you use for measurements, you could hit us up at a cut above one word dot horror on the score review John Together.

Yeah, I'm trying to bob straight chill and podcast.

You guys just reviewed this past week or last week Twister.

What a horror movie we did.

Yeah, it's maybe maybe on the edge of the genre there, but you know where to loose with it.

So if it's a disaster movie, survival movie or whatever, yeah, we're medium to loose with it.

We do a little bit of everything.

And at this coming week we're gonna be reviewing RoboCop, which yet again I'm sure, yes we will say we have no business talk about it as a horror podcast, but we get on all of that and I think it leads to some decent discussions, So check it out.

I loved the Twister episode straight here on podcasts wherever you get your podcast and heidribarg what do you guys get coming up for cinemi goos.

We have an episode coming up on Legend Raddy Scott's Legend song, Tom Cruise and Tim Carey.

Oh yeah, Bob, by the way, you have another podcast called Let's Get Physical Media, right.

Yeah, yeah, me and my buddy Mikey.

We collect blue rays and four k's and some vhs and some DVD and stuff and we talk about all that and we even do commentaries on occasion.

So if you are interested in buying movies physically, check out Let's Get Physical Media, and uh, we'll have some suggestions for you.

Absolutely you know the commentary.

I love that you guys did Law.

That movie is amazing, right, love that movie.

I watched it at least once a year.

It's so funny.

It's quote I quote it all the time to people who have never.

Seen it, and and they think you're totally normal.

I'm sure.

Yeah.

Comes up behind that mom and goes wee.

Wee, Hi, Jacqueline, Yes, we know you're the Weasels.

And follow a cut above horror review.

We're looking for those five star ratings on Apple podcasts we're looking for those five star ratings on Spotify your podcast, so that's all I got.

Yeah, all right, fellas, it's been fun.

Thank you so much, Bob.

Thanks for taking time to be here with us tonight.

It was really awesome having you on.

Yeah, thank you guys so much for having me.

It's it's always a blast of hanging out with you all.

Anytime let me know I'd be happy to do it again, all right, thank.

You Hederberg, John.

I'll see you fellas back here next week for two thousand and four's Dawn of the Dead

And keep it horny.