Episode Transcript
Hey, Gang Heiderberg.
Here Cut Above Horror Review.
Tonight we take a neighborly stroll with Terror and Caitlin Grant of the Plug It Up podcast to help us review twenty seventeens Terrified.
Episode two fourteen of A Cut Above is all about perspective and it's starting now.
Speaker 2Got my life into pieces.
Speaker 3Good evening and welcome to A Cut Above Horror Review, a podcast where we review all things horror.
I'm your host, Jacqueline, and tonight we'll be discussing Terrified from twenty seventeen.
But first, let's meet everyone else on the show.
First up, let's meet Terror de Burg.
Speaker 4My heart?
Speaker 3Oh are you okay?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Uh you copy?
Speaker 5No?
Speaker 1Okay, I'm gonna think I'm okay?
Speaker 3What we do without you on the show?
Speaker 1I took a baby ask that's good?
Behind my cabinet it was weird.
Speaker 3Check your eyes?
Are your eyes okay?
Hot?
Speaker 4It was a hot cheetah from last year?
Speaker 3Did you fall on it?
Speaker 1Fall?
Speaker 3I fell at it went in my eye.
Next up, it's John.
How you doing John?
Speaker 1Oh?
Speaker 3Sounded like a suave Argentine.
Speaker 4That was late night.
Speaker 5Would you speak Portuguese or is it it's Spanish?
Speaker 3But it's a pretty unique.
Speaker 2It's a unique Spanish for sure.
I lived in Chilean for a while, which is right next to Argentina, and I fucking love Argentinian Spanish.
I was for a long time and I love it.
Speaker 3It sounds so weird to me.
Speaker 2It is weird.
Speaker 3I love it.
And last, but not least, special guests, since you already spoke up, it's Caitlin from plug It Up Podcast.
How you doing, Kaitlin.
Speaker 2I'm good.
It's so good to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3Great to have you back.
I think this is your first time visiting us since Invisible Man.
Am I right?
Speaker 2I think so?
Yeah?
Speaker 3Cool?
Well, glad to have you back.
It's going to be a fun time, fun talk.
Speaker 1Hell, yeah, I can plug it up in this episode.
We can be doing but it's true we could plug up some things.
Speaker 3Yeah, there are some things that probably need to be plugged up.
Speaker 5Ye.
But I got to say, Caitlyn, in your most recent episode on Plugging Up Podcast, you talked to them Mary about the woman in the yard because you kept calling it the lady in the yard.
Yeah, and that was hilarious to me.
But I loved your guys discussion about it makes people want to go watch it, you know, maybe just on a whim.
But the one thing I didn't know is that you made chapstick at one point.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Yeah, I used to make like lip balms and like savs and creams and stuff, and I Mary was talking about how it was her favorite chapstick.
And I still find some sometimes because I used to sell them at markets, and I every time I find one, I'm like, hell, yeah, this is the stuff.
So I need to go back and make some more.
Speaker 3If you learn how to do that.
Speaker 5Yeah, if you do send it to us, I will definitely send y'all some.
We're not going to pay for it, but.
Speaker 2Not in a summer months where it'll get all melty.
I'll send it to.
Speaker 4Having a media that I found my chapstick.
Speaker 1It was in my bag and I went to go put some on and just yeah, it's melting down his face.
Speaker 3Fun fact every I've washed many a chapstick accidentally in my laundry and they always come out fine.
Speaker 2Isn't that so funny?
Because they really do.
Speaker 4Yeah, I don't know what petroleum in it.
Speaker 3I'll take it.
I'm very serious about my lip bomb.
Speaker 5Up.
Speaker 2Oh thank you.
Speaker 5The woman and you.
Speaker 3Find out more about the lip bomb, about the woman in the yard.
Yeah, in the yard, Brenda the broad in the bush.
Speaker 1Oh my god, there today Brenda the broad and the bush.
Speaker 3On the other side of that was last week Brenda was the broad who was broiling herself in the next to the brush.
Speaker 4Is what I watched, Remember, I enjoy?
Speaker 1I enjoy.
No, that's not what we're going I don't promote.
Speaker 3Oh lordie, Well, now that we have all the important stuff out of the way, yes, do you have news?
Speaker 5I do?
Speaker 3Cool?
What is it?
Speaker 5Hey?
Speaker 4I waited, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5So it looks it looks like John Krasinski is coming back because this is officially I guess.
I don't know, Quiet Place Part three.
Speaker 3We already didn't.
We already have two and then it's Origin one.
Speaker 2Yeah, there's this will be the fourth, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4But this is this announcement could have came out two years ago.
Speaker 5Yeah, so it's officially a franchise.
Speaker 3I guess, now, yeah, I would, I would say so.
Speaker 2Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5So yeah, John Krasinsky is coming back to direct A Quiet Place Part three Bloodlines.
Speaker 3Oh, so he's directing this?
Did he direct the second one in the in the Origin one or pre Colcon one.
Speaker 5The third one, which was what Day one or something like that.
Speaker 1Yeah, did he direct the second one as well?
Speaker 3He did?
Speaker 5Or maybe writing credits not checking.
Speaker 3Out by the way, just I forgot to mention this at the time, but last summer when I was in Mexico, uh for you know, a couple of weeks.
They they must have been really excited about that movie, because there were posters and huge ads everywhere for the Day one Day One.
Yeah.
Speaker 2I feel like they marketed it pretty hard, and I did not care.
Speaker 4I saw it.
Speaker 3The only movies I saw advertised anywhere in Mexico were Quiet Place in Garfield.
Speaker 4And Don't Panic No.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, Don't Panic No.
Well that was a tie in with the Jammis.
Speaker 5Yeah, the Dinosaur Jammies.
Speaker 3Yeap.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 1Brian Woods was the writer of the first one.
Speaker 4Just got back.
Those are the guys that did heretic?
Speaker 5Oh oh shoot, okay, interesting.
Speaker 1Becken Woods, I believe the same writers that was the first one, though.
Speaker 5Well officially I guess it's a franchise now expected to come out in July of twenty twenty seven, and Emily Blunt, John's wife, is going to be in it.
Speaker 1Did you know this movie second one as well?
And he did direct the Oh he directed the second one.
Speaker 5Okay, did you know this franchise has made nine hundred million dollars worldwide so far.
Speaker 3I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4It's losing it a little bit to me.
Speaker 1But the series has a human a very good human like dynamic to it.
You know, it's a creature feature, but it's very focused on the human drama of it all and that family and even even Day one has that a good bed I guess with the main chire doing that too.
Speaker 4Lapita, Yeah, that movie is all right, but.
Speaker 5I kind of want to watch it because I love Lapitza no longer.
She is, dude, She's like one of the best actors, like of our generation.
So like for me, Little Monsters with her, Yeah, I did see that.
Speaker 4It's yeah, we should cover that.
Speaker 3Is it a remake of the Fred Savage movie?
It is not, as though with Howie Mandel.
I'm so glad you guys all.
Speaker 2Know I love Little Monsters.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 5Anyways, and uh, I think we're gonna be able to tie this into later in the show.
Is that Hostile is getting a series.
Speaker 2It is Paul Giamatti, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5There are talks with Paul Giamatti as the star of the show.
It's going to be on Peacock and still being written right now by the one and.
Speaker 3Only I'm here for.
Speaker 1It's Peacock Edgy like they can they can show like nasty stuff.
Speaker 5Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's Disney plus interesting.
Speaker 1I wonder if that's going to be coming out of his new production company that Rod Scott.
Speaker 2Yeah, my friend John Schnars is the CEO of that, and he from Bloody Good Horror he hopped on with.
I texted him because we recovered Hostile to tonight.
I'm plugging up and I texted and I was like, hey, tell Eli Roth.
We're big fans of Hostele too.
And he was like and I was like, oh well, and he was like, I'm actually seeing him tonight.
Speaker 1And I was like, oh my god, dude, that's like six degrees of separation where you know how close we are to somebody else.
Speaker 2Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3Huh?
Speaker 4I don't want to jump in no, but for real, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1That's crazy.
That's I think that's an interesting idea for a show.
Speaker 3Though.
Speaker 1You could definitely do a cool show.
And that's a great actor for that too.
Speaker 5Oh my god, because I really liked Hostile one.
Speaker 3In Hostile Too too, I love part two.
Speaker 5Yeah, I thought they were great, and it was just like, yeah, there could be a series.
Speaker 1You know.
Speaker 5The more I thought about it, I'm like, Okay, yeah, they're just taking this I p.
Speaker 4Like an anthology.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, it could be absolutely boys.
Speaker 3Have you Nick, have you seen Hostile to?
Speaker 1What the fuck?
Professionals, my name's tarder Berg.
Speaker 3Sorry it despite the fact that we've all said it, like Jacqueline, I'm sorry, Okay, Hydroburg, have you seen Hostile to.
Speaker 4Think?
So it's been a while, but I do.
I don't remember like loving it.
Speaker 1But to be honest, I don't know when I remember seeing I absorbed like a lot of torture porn around that time, you know what I mean.
So I was were coming out and I felt like I've maybe I was just overwhelmed by too much, just explicit gore and I didn't really give the story enough to do.
Because I do remember the second one was trying some more things based on what they had established with the first one, they went further with it.
I remember so yeah, maybe we should cover them.
We haven't done a lot of like torture porn.
Speaker 3Yeah, I would love to do the hostels.
Speaker 4We have something coming up soon that's in the vein of that.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
At the end of the month, I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5Okay, so we got that.
We're kind of excited about it.
I think all of us are a little bit.
Yes, yeah, okay, Jackling, you're not gonna like this story.
Speaker 4That's why you gave you that other one first.
Speaker 3Ye get me happy first.
Speaker 5Yeah, General Mills, the Monster cereals are out in stores.
Speaker 3Now, that's awesome.
Speaker 1Why Oh they have milk put in them.
Speaker 6Yes they do, they don't, Yes, they do the advertisement like on the Okay, anyways, Cow Chocola, Frank.
Speaker 1And Berry, Booberry, boob Berry.
Speaker 5Boob Berry.
They're all getting a different look.
The Jim Henson Company actually created the characters to look like muppets.
Speaker 3Now, well cute.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's it's freaking awesome looking here for it.
But I guess Walmart released them first.
But I guess you're gonna see him in the Yeah, you see him in grocery stores now, so.
Speaker 3Yeah, right, I don't want it.
Speaker 1They didn't know.
Speaker 5They didn't say that if they're releasing the other ones because those came afterwards though, because you have they Bloberry Chocolate, Frank Branking Berry, so but Jacqueline to buy them.
They're going to ask you if you put milk in your cereal.
If no, you can't, Oh no, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3They're gonna have to violate my principles and lie.
Speaker 4Without Yes, I.
Speaker 5Use lactus free milk.
I had to.
Speaker 4Yeah, why don't you use powdered milk on your cereal?
Speaker 1That way it doesn't get us say yeah.
Speaker 2You snort a line of it, then you take a handful of perfect up the cereal and yeah, yeah, well sugar.
Speaker 5Cheka that one.
That was awesome.
That's all I got.
Speaker 3Okay, Well, you guys are ready to talk about Terrified?
Speaker 2Yes, yes, terrifier.
Speaker 3I know I'm having a hard time not saying at a fire, I'm probably gonna mess up at some point.
Speaker 1Google has a hard time.
Speaker 5When you're looking up ship on that movie, it says terrifier, like, sure, you don't mean terrified, Yeah, terrifier.
Speaker 3Google, don't you know what happens when you assume you make an as.
Speaker 4You're not looking.
Speaker 1Make sure you're not looking up trash bags clowns.
Speaker 3They should definitely have like branded trash bags with art the clown on them.
I bet some people buy them, like a few.
Speaker 4Sell them out.
Speaker 2The people don't want them sell them.
Speaker 1You could jump out of a plane with one of those fucking things, and he's the paratrooper.
Speaker 3It won't break.
Speaker 1That'll be in the next movie.
That's how he's gonna land.
When he falls through that portal through hell.
He's gonna like you, I'm gonna fly down like Mary poppin Job Mary Pop.
Speaker 3She does a fly down like this, She flies down like this.
Speaker 4Well it's a trash bag.
Okay.
Speaker 1So then he holds like one of the things that's coming out of trash bag, Oh, like an umbrella with Razor bloke.
Speaker 4Yeah, fork, he holds a fork, a fellowed raison.
Speaker 3Oh lord.
Okay.
So we're talking about Terrified from twenty seventeen.
Whose pick was this?
Speaker 4This is my pick?
Speaker 3I always find Heydiberg.
Why did you pick Terrified?
Speaker 1Yeah?
I picked this one because it was just one of those shutter originals that really kind of caught my eye a while back.
I watched it right around the time that it released, and I just always remember kind of digging it.
Speaker 4It was different, you know, it's foreign, and uh.
Speaker 1It became one of my Patreon picks for Straight Showing because they hadn't gotten around to cover it, and I wanted to kind of share it with some of their audience.
It's not a perfect film, but I think it's an interesting film for sure, with some craft.
It does a ghost story a little different and I appreciate that.
Speaker 4So, yeah, it's got.
Speaker 1Some right interesting moments I don't wanted to.
Speaker 3Share well in that note, will you start us off and decide whether it fucks or sucks?
Speaker 2Please tell me, Elizabeth, how exactly does one suck a fuck?
Speaker 4Want me to tell you?
Speaker 1Please see, I don't mess that one up because I know the bump's coming, yeah, because it's yeah, it's my turn, so it's easy.
Yeah.
You know, like like neighbors that are just dumping against the wall over and over again and you're like, what the fuck are they doing over there?
Speaker 4You know, this one definitely fucks, but.
Speaker 1You know, maybe maybe there's moments of it that just like, all right, get it over with, you know, where are we going here?
But you know, you know you're trying some new things.
I appreciate it, but you know, land the plane and get me home here.
But yeah, it's a good fuck it.
I'd come back to it and fuck it again for sure.
Speaker 4What about you, Katel?
Speaker 2Of course, would I think this movie fucks?
I really like this movie a lot.
I so I watched When Evil Lurks, which is Demian Rugna's other movie that came out twenty twenty three.
I believe I watched that first, and I watched it and I found it so compelling.
I think it's really excellent.
And then Tony and I went back and watched Terrified right afterwards because we were like, we want to see more from this guy.
And while we were watching it, Tony fell asleep.
The sun had set, the lights were off, and I didn't get up while we were watching it to turn the lights on or anything, And for whatever reason, it just hit me exactly right, and it scared me so badly and in a great way, in a way that I don't get scared often easily anymore.
So it really hit me exactly right, definitely gave me the creeps, and I loved watching it then, and I had a little watch party Saturday, we had some friends over to watch this together, and I was like so excited to share it with people, and we all had a really great time watching it.
I told them that I was going to guest on the show and that they should all listen after it comes out.
But it was really fun to revisit.
I think that it holds up.
I love the Argentinian Spanish.
I love the character of Funes.
I feel like he's the most relatable character because he literally has a heart attack because she is so scary.
He's trying to get the fuck out se shit at some point because it's like, of course, like he's doing the things that you always say, like just start shooting, That's exactly what he does.
I love his character.
I think he's so good.
I think the body slam of Clara is so upsetting, and the child is so upsetting.
There's so many things in this movie that are striking images.
It might be a little disjointed.
It's like he had ideas for a couple of different things and then put them together in one movie.
But I'm okay with that.
Speaker 5Caitlyne, do you think this movie the movie Smile stole from this movie?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 5How so towards the end.
Speaker 3Oh, we will save that when morning.
Speaker 5That's that's it.
That's all.
Speaker 4That's a curious way you're going with that.
Speaker 3Okay, what do you think?
Does this fuck or suck?
Speaker 1Okay?
Speaker 3Okay, got it?
Speaker 2How about you?
Speaker 5How do you feel about it?
Speaker 3Yeah?
I think it fun.
I don't always understand like what it's doing, you know, but it but like it it you know, it's a good time.
Not one hundred percent sure, like totally finishes the job for me, like sometimes I gotta I feel like I got to kind of do it myself.
Oh wow, But but still it focks.
I would I would call it again.
Okay, yeah, all right, Now let's drop this boiler warning so that we can discuss more in detail.
Speaker 5You bet you now we're talking about Terrified from twenty seventeen.
Terrifier too, I say, Terrified from twenty seventeen.
If you haven't seen this movie, Pausitive podcast, go watch it.
Cut back to find out what we thought about it.
Speaker 3All right, Hyderberg, do you have a reach around plot summary?
Speaker 1Oh shit, it's feeling himself mm hmm.
Speaker 3Now feel somebody.
Speaker 1Else, Genie baby that part from the last threek it's still funny.
I kept it in the episode anyway.
Speaker 4Yes, I haven't reach around, so I'll give it.
Speaker 5Okay.
Speaker 1God from Buenos Aires a different take on ghost stories.
A beautiful couple, no worries.
Juan comes home to kiss his wife.
She shook up at first sight.
Voices heard her death.
They plan in the pipes.
Juan convinces their neighbor renovations non stop.
They unaware of next door, the ghastly terror breast.
At night, Juan woke into a loud thud, walk into the bathroom, first sight of blood.
Clara, his wife, hovering, being smashed back and forth in the tub.
His screams drowned out by the bashing, her face gashing.
He tries desperately to stop the smashing, her death and blood on his hands.
Investigators can't understand.
They're not sure that they have their man.
This neighborhood is being plagued.
Cut back a couple weeks, we see Walter's story displayed being haunted at night.
His psyche frayed, can't sleep, counting sheep demons from the deep crawl from under his bed as he sleeps.
Desperate calls place to his therapist.
This creature from the darkness exists.
He films it out of his wardrobe.
Speaker 4It exits.
Speaker 1His gun won't help him.
Behind the walls and in the pipes, they've been dimensional demons.
The spin across the street.
A grieving mother.
She sits by Walter's house.
He was hit run over by a bus.
Her son sorely missed.
Commissioner Funez called in next to the boy's mom.
Boy's body back from the grave of the bomb.
Funez calls in Hano, who has experience with outside a norm rigamortis clearly set in body black from where it's been a rancid smell the state.
He's in, his favorite cereal on display, crying over spilt milk.
To Fune's dismay, Hano tells the Commissioner what to say to his men as they try and solve the case.
The boy's dirty hand and footprints all over the place.
For this sort of work, funes has lost the taste.
Hannu meets doctor Morra albrech On, behalf of Walter.
She there to inspect the paranormal her subject, Walter's gone missing coincidence.
Hanu not dismissing these cases related to perspective needs shifting invites Morra.
Speaker 4To join the squad.
Speaker 1Believers in the dark and bizarre push past the veiled Fasad.
Rosenthalc visits Juan to help find where Walter's gone.
A parallel line drawn.
Mora, Hanu, Funas, and Rosenthalc split up to take stock in Walter's house.
Funa is shocked, Rosenthalc pinned to the cabinet, his blood is sucked up.
Elaborate prospective shifts, we see the threat demons from another dimension.
A crack on the wall at Juan's garners Aubrek's attention.
We see Walter hidden turned infection.
The demon plays tricks on Hanu's eyes through glass.
The creature appears before his eyes surprise, optical death, blood tears.
Cry Funis finds him trapped in a piece of furniture, a dimensional rift.
Albreck learns through her literature this entity the new neighbor.
Fune is scared.
His heart can't take it.
He doesn't know if he can make it out alive.
As he fights to survive, the creature takes Aubrich's life, heart attack commencing interdimensional neighbors are reality.
They're fencing his chest.
He's clenching More's neck quit, fune Is with teeth grit, takes off to have a cigarette, comes back to ignite Alicia, digs her son up sacrifice, then takes her life.
Fune Is mortified, Juan horrified, this neighborhood terrified.
Yes, I done, Yes, Glass.
Speaker 3Yes, m you've been doing your dual lingo.
Speaker 4I have been on a day.
Speaker 1So John, now that we're done with the spoiler wanding, if you wanted to cut to what it was you were mentioning, I'm really curious.
Speaker 5Okay.
So at the very end, you see the female dog to her she comes out and her head's like smile, yeah, especially because it's.
Speaker 2At a car window to just exactly yeah, and he's.
Speaker 5Around that three times.
I'm like, smile took from this movie big time, that part, Yeah, and smile Like the sister's head turns around.
And it was terrifying, you said, Caitlin, me, It's like it's a terrifying movie.
Speaker 4Were you terrified, doctor, and terrified?
Speaker 5I really was.
I mean there were like three scenes that really got me.
Speaker 3Which it was.
Speaker 5It was the seeing the creature at first, and the other two were the kid the kids so scary.
Speaker 1Jack and I apologize I forgot about the moment where the kid died.
Speaker 3Oh god, yeah, but that's not that doesn't bother me so bad because it's not like very quick, I don't know, there's not like it's not turned into a big emotional thing in that moment, you know, and we don't have to have to sit with it for too long, you know, I know, with the mom later.
Speaker 5You see you see it later, but it's like, you know, the first time the kid turns his head to look at his friend, that like I was like, whoa, you know, taking a back.
Speaker 2In a kid moment is so it's just the footprints up the wall, seeing the kid and like he's the cereals ship.
Speaker 3Well with no milk on it.
Speaker 4The mom well you didn't get a chance.
Speaker 5Yet over because milk.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's no very non milk on cereal.
Speaker 2It's just such a striking image.
It's so scary.
Speaker 5Well, I would say the last one that really really like made me jump scare was when he opened the door that the detective captain.
He opened it up and he's looking around and then all of a sudden he's right there and you're like, that got me.
Speaker 1That was the moment that he does jump scares, but it doesn't they earned them in an interesting way that it works.
Speaker 3I felt like I could smell that child.
Yeah, yeah, child.
Speaker 1Yeah, he looks like someone's toe when it gets like fucking frostbite.
Speaker 4You know what I mean.
Speaker 1Like that's how it's also low key.
Speaker 2A little funny because he's like, and bring two bags of concrete and he's like concrete.
He's like, do you want it to happen again?
And I was like, yeah, this guy gets it.
Speaker 5Like like the mom like ends up digging her son out of that concrete.
Speaker 2It's so dark, it's so dark.
She's like, I wasn't gonna leave my baby.
Like he goes get in the car and the kids in there, and then he's like I'm actually good, you know, yeah, I'm gonna drive myself to the hospital.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2He's like had a heart attack.
He needs help.
And she's like, I'm not gonna leave my baby.
Speaker 1And it's like, oh god, it's so crazy.
Speaker 4Come on, Snatch, what are you dumb?
Speaker 5And that that was the scene where like he realizes that she had dug the child out of the grave and it was like sitting back there just rotting it still and he's like, fuck this, I'm.
Speaker 1Gonna say, but didn't the kid's head turn in the car too, like for a moment or something.
I don't know he still if it did.
Speaker 4I when he does.
Speaker 2I love when he says to his buddy, he's like, don't turn the lights off again.
Like he's such a relatable character.
It's every character in a horror movie that you're like, do this, don't do that.
He's our proxy because he's doing all the things that you expect someone to do in a horrifying situation, but it still goes wrong for him.
Speaker 4Yeah, So how did you like the opener?
Speaker 1Like?
I really like the I think the opening and kind of set in you don't quite know what's going on because this movie jumps around a little bit with the narrative in time.
Speaker 5Yeah, to me, it was like actually a very soft cold open.
It wasn't a hard cold open because it was like immediate, you know.
I loved the dynamic between the husband and the life because like he comes home, he's like, oh, you didn't make dinner.
He wasn't offensive to her, or he can play that typical guy of like, yo, what the fuck you know?
I've been working all day?
And you didn't make dinner.
No, the first thing he says, Oh, it's okay, we can get takeout.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's chill.
And then also something I noticed about that is she tells him what she experienced that day.
She's like, I couldn't make dinner because I didn't want to go in the kitchen I heard voices in the drain or whatever.
And he's not He doesn't immediately go like, what the fuck are you talking about.
He's like yeah, yeah.
He's like, really, tell me more.
And he goes over and he's like listening, and then he comes up with some explanations like oh, it was probably just you know, some banging on the pipe or whatever.
But he's not dismissive.
He comes up with like reasonable, like alternate explanations, but he's not like rude or dismissive of her.
He's all like, you you're fucking crazy, you know, like you would you could anticipate that in a lot of characters, And he's not like that.
Speaker 5I thought it was.
I thought it was more comforting to her.
It's like, you know, it could be Walter, it could be like trying to, you know, very softly explained to her.
This is this could be the explanation of what's going on on, what.
Speaker 3Your parents, you pick the right word, trying to comfort her.
Speaker 5Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Speaker 2He also looks so much like a friend of mine.
This guy looks like my friend Matt.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's one.
Speaker 4Of the brothers.
He's one of the brothers from When Evil Lerks.
Speaker 1Yes, and so was Walter.
Walter was one of the brothers as well.
Speaker 3No, I didn't pick up.
Speaker 2I love that he reused cast I mean, yeah, it just and they're so good, But that opening, I think it's so brutal when you hear the body thudding and when you rewatch it, especially because you know what it is.
Speaker 1And you just hear it studding, that it's going on the whole time.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then the blood it's just so and he's begging for her.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's and you always have no idea what's going on yet about this film, so we're like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3Like, Yeah, the misdirection I think is really effective because I didn't anticipate that it was her body banging against the wall.
Yeah, he goes next door, like there's like they spend time like exploring this what he thinks it is, and and it seems like it's not, so we're like, what the hell?
And he goes back to his room and he's still hearing it, and I think that's great because then we're kind of left in the dark too.
And then he goes in the bathroom, and I love the way the first thing you see in the bathroom is not her, it's the blood on the shower wall, like the fuck happen in here?
And then you realize what it is.
I will say I do think the way her like the effects that they used to make it look like her body was slaming against the wall look a little cheesy, but what can.
Speaker 4This movie's on a budget, for sure.
Speaker 3And I think I'm not hating on you.
Speaker 2Yeah, And you can tell the step up in effects and in writing for when of the lyrics.
Speaker 3I think.
Speaker 4It's so interesting.
Speaker 1I think they I think they achieve a good bit though, even though you know the effects aren't the best that they they you know, you get you can get better, but still just I don't like the writing and the atmosphere and the way they do the effect still works, like the brutality of her going back and forth and the look on his face.
I know the fact that he didn't even do anything at first, But I don't blame him because he's like what am I looking at?
Speaker 5Terrified?
Yea, terrified.
Speaker 4He's terrible, that's the thing.
Speaker 2It's like, what how do you even process that?
Because her body's floating, like there's so many things to process and that suicide, grief and involved it's it's yeah, it's rough.
Speaker 5I thought.
I thought the effects were really good.
I think there was a little bit of c g I in this movie, but like, like for me, the practical effects looked awesome.
Speaker 2I think they're actually the kid was like they spent time and money on making that dead, and it was it was effective and well spent.
I think the the glass and the eyes for one of the one of the especially like when he's strapped in the cabinet one of the doctors scientists.
Yes, I love the whole like I'm assembling a team vibe of like all these like guys coming together, and you can tell Demian Rugna also really likes a gadget because he has doctor Albrooke like.
Speaker 1With some like yeah, the other one that the pendulum type thing or whatever it was.
Speaker 2Yeah, I love and I love like a severe older woman character in anything, and when she's like, he's like, are you Maura Albrick and she's like doctor Albrick, Yes, And I was like doctor Albrick and she's just like characters.
Speaker 3I liked her too.
Speaker 5I like the way they kind of set it up where it was like different perspectives.
You have to look at different perspectives to.
Speaker 4See that's it.
Speaker 1It's like multi dimensional ghost sight.
Speaker 3Yeah, that was a unique element that.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was something a little bit different, a different approach to like a haunting or I also like that they were talking about it like an infectious disease where it's like it's in the water.
It's like microbes that can trans like you know, transmiss And I just think.
Speaker 4It's so cool to break that down.
Speaker 1Do we think that was Walter doing work in his apartment that he you think he might have unleashed the thing originally?
Speaker 4I don't know in this one area.
Speaker 3Is actually doing any work or if he just said he was doing work, because yeah, one wanted to know what the noise.
Speaker 1Because he's the first person that we realized was being plagued by it.
Speaker 5Yeah, I think Walter just had like a mental breakdown, you know, that's why he kept calling the doctor.
It's like, hey, I need to go.
I checked with all the specialists and I need her.
I need her to help.
Speaker 1And he tries to get then he tries a document what he's going through.
Speaker 3Yeah, yes, that's the good word for it.
You can feel his desperation.
He can't sleep, He's like it's like a night awakening.
Speaker 2He looks like shit, like he's yeah, I really like his descent.
Speaker 5Yeah, this movie was so tired.
It was like an hour and twenty eight minutes and it was just damn and just appreciated that.
Speaker 1Yeah, there's a couple of moments where it drags for me later on not for me, and they're in like separate apartments and they're just like, oh, I'm looking at this thing, and I'm looking at and I like the scenes themselves, but there's just I don't know, in my review, there's something missing from this film.
Speaker 4I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2I think they feel a little desperate at times where they feel a little separate, even though the story does bring them together.
And it's this neighborhood that's being plagued and this team of paranormal doctor investigators that is interesting I think that some that needs a little more gluing it together.
But I really like all of it, and I'm okay sitting with the fact that they feel a little desparate.
Speaker 1But at that moment where the doctor's like, what, wh who's the guy in the window?
Speaker 3Yeah, that's a great I love that.
I don't mind this the like separate stories going on here.
I actually like that we're kind of told three different stories and then we have these three different experts who sort of split up to like house it, you know, Poltergeist style.
I actually really like that.
Where the movie feels lacking to me is in like the mythology of the supernatural thing that's happening.
So we mentioned the water element and how and how that's what like transmits or opens a portal or whatever to the these other entities.
But I don't feel like the water aspect is played up enough.
Like we're told that it that it, that it uses, like water is the vehicle for that, but we don't actually see a whole lot of water.
Like we've watched some very wet movies, this is not one of them, you know, And so it's just like if if if one of the characters hadn't said, oh, it's like the water is used as a vehicle between the worlds or whatever.
I would have never picked up on that.
And even knowing that and kind of backtracking and looking back, it's like, Okay, there's a couple of little clues like this.
Okay, there's the sink, which to me is the most obvious.
Speaker 4Yeah, and then she is.
Speaker 2In the shower, like she gets to take a shower and that's when her body gets thrown around and they drink.
Speaker 3That doesn't Walter, But that doesn't really explain about Walter, Like, yeah.
Speaker 4I guess he was drinking the water outside his house.
Speaker 3Yeah, there's that, But like I wouldn't notice that.
I wouldn't notice that and be like, oh, oh he's letting something in.
You know.
It's like I only see that in retrospect, do you know what I mean?
And I feel like different like different entities that behave in different ways here, Like you know, there's like the tall ghosty man in Walter's house.
Yeah, and then there's the kid who was a human but then died.
But then it's like moving and it's like what is what is the supernatural?
Speaker 1I think it's the super natural thing is the guy, but when you get killed by him or something like, you can become because it says they could take people's bodies or whatever.
So maybe it's the thing just manipulating all these facets to you know, break you down as a victim until it can like grab you.
Speaker 4I think it was like stick.
Speaker 1Your hand in the cabinet or something.
Yeah, and like.
Speaker 2Explain terror as it applies to each person, Like for the mom, terror for her means losing her kid and then also losing her kid again, losing her kid again when he comes back and they have to rebury him.
And terror for uh the first guy is one is that his like wife that he loves very much is being tossed around in the tub and that's terrifying in and of itself for her, for him, and then for Walter it's like plays on his loneliness and that he's not alone.
Speaker 4I think that is question.
Speaker 1Yeah, do you think it should be it's weird that it's wan at the end.
Meanwhile he's been locked up while all the stuff happened at the house.
Maybe it should be fune at the end that they're like talking to I don't know.
Speaker 5It didn't bother me I actually really loved the end of this movie.
I actually really loved it because it was like they brought back the pictures of like the three investigators, the doctor and the two doctors and the captain and like the flip side that picture around.
Yeah, he's right here.
That was fucking awesome and it was a nice little jump.
Scared did get me as much as the other scenes, but it was just like.
Speaker 4But it's like a narrative that's coming from that guy.
Speaker 1I get that it's been locked up while the cops were doing their investigating, but I like that is like.
Speaker 2They think Funas is on the run.
And Mora was like doctor Albrick was like, don't believe everything you see tonight.
And for me, it's like, Okay, well, did all those things happen?
Did her neck get turned around?
Did everything like with the sucking of the hand blood happened with doctor Rosen?
Talk like did all the things happen?
Or did he set fire to everything because of some vision that the entities gave him?
And now he's on the run for having murdered these investigators, And like, I like that he's a fugitive in this one and that he's gone.
Speaker 5I agree with the gate when I love the fact that he's the main character and then you just don't know.
The ambiguous ending was like so wonderful to me.
I think this runtime, Yeah, the runtime was just was tight.
It just moved for me.
Speaker 3Yeah.
No, I like that it's Swan at the end because it started with him, and it's it's this investigation into the disappearance, into the death of his wife, right, yes, So he starts and then they're like, have there been any has there been anything else strange going on that you've noticed, And that's when he starts talking about the thing that they were already part of it.
And so I think it's appropriate that it circles back to that, like he's been questioned before, he's going to be questioned again because other events have now transpired, and so I just think it's it's appropriate, like because it still hasn't really been like put to bed.
Speaker 1Yet, and I guess maybe it's coming for him still again, you know, because he was in the the lot, you know, because it seems like it's going through the apartment complex, you know, like down the line Walter's house, him the boy.
Speaker 4And Clara.
Speaker 3Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4I don't know.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it used Pone's like, as it would be interesting Ifune was like there, like in actual form instead of a ghost the image.
It's weird because they don't see him.
Speaker 3Yeah, is not a ghost?
Speaker 4Who is it that he's so at the end.
Speaker 3The American guy?
Speaker 4Okay, okay, I love.
Speaker 3I love him too.
Speaker 2I want more of him because he's just he's so handsome first, but I also love that like at one point when he's like he's in his car, he's finally fleeing, he's gonna take himself to the hospital, pulls over, has a cigarette, and I was like, there's something so satisfying relatable about this guy's just trying to.
Speaker 4Get a heart attack.
Yeah, I have a cigarette.
Speaker 2Have a cigarette.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean when you're addicted, Yeah, gotta do it.
Speaker 2But he he just feels so real to me when he tells, uh the other guy like, hey, don't turn the lights off again, And I was like.
Speaker 3He's not fucking around, like he's not interested in.
Speaker 1He's on the phone with them, and they're like now listening to him.
They're like, oh, we're at the house and we don't see a car and here's oh, here's the doctor and he's like, don't know, don't go in there.
Speaker 2That's He's like, that's yeah, do you copy?
That's an order.
Speaker 4He's very stressed out.
Speaker 3Yeah, Caitlin, I think he used exactly the right word.
He's very relatable.
It's like, yeah, I could see my and he's like he's he's skeptical of what's gonna happen, Like you can tell he doesn't really know what he's getting himself into at the beginning, and then when it happens, he has a very relatable degree of what the fuck, Like I don't want to be around this.
Speaker 2He's like he's scared the way that we would be.
He's trying to rationalize it the way that any of them would.
And I just think that he was the right choice, Like the actor was the right choice, the character was the right choice.
It made a lot of sense to have him there, especially with everything else being you know, kind of like vignette e where it's like a little yet of doctor Rosen talk and vignette of doctor Albrook, a vignette of this that and the other thing.
Like I like that he kind of is like the thread that weaves everything together.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, because the specialists don't seem to be faced by this ship as like he the way he.
Speaker 2Is, well, Doctor Alri just like looking in the crack and she's like, hello, Walter.
Speaker 3She's very chill about it.
Speaker 2I love her a little, her gadgets.
I just everything about her was fascinating.
I could use a little Yeah, can we please get a spin off more Doctor Albrick, Yes, yeah, I actually wanted more of these characters.
Speaker 3Yeah, Like I used to spin off of Wan and Clara before this happened.
I could have used to spin off of Fullness.
I could have used a spin off.
I'm curious about Rosen talk and like how he ended up here, you know, and why does he not know the word new?
Speaker 2Why doesn't he know the word He's like he's trying to find the word for a nest and he says niche and I'm like that that's not not yeah, but he's just so cute the way he speaks Spanish.
Speaker 1To like when his hand got stabbed too, that that was and you just hear this weird noise and they're like the way they like and.
Speaker 4Then it's like the blood's dripping up.
Speaker 3Up but he doesn't know the word for the suck and he's.
Speaker 2Like yeah, They're like He's like.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think are the weird team.
Speaker 5This movie would have been awesome in the theaters.
The sound is just like fantastic.
Speaker 2I wish I could have seen this in theaters for sure.
Speaker 3I wish I'd had time to watch this twice because I only watched it once and I felt like I was like I paused several times to like take notes and stuff, and you know that breaks up the experience, and I wish I could have.
Speaker 2Just like relaxed definitely watching this in the environment that I did the first time.
Like I it really spooked me, especially after having watched When Evil Lurks first, Like I was just primed to be scared, and I remember having Tony like walk me to my car afterwards because I.
Speaker 1Was so this one first.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, yeah, I know when when Evil.
Speaker 1Lurk came out, I knew that what to expect from it.
Speaker 4I knew it was gonna be something edgy based on this.
Speaker 5I go ahead, John, Yeah, I was just saying I saw this like poster a lot on Shutter because I go there every week see what's new out there.
It's like I've always passed by it.
But Hieberg.
I'm so glad you picked it, dude.
Speaker 3Were you gonna say, Jacob, I was gonna say, I actually think I enjoyed this movie more than I enjoyed Where Evil Lurks or When Evil Lurks or whatever.
I know that, like maybe the writing isn't as tight and all that, but I really enjoyed the characters a lot in this one.
And I really enjoyed the suburban setting.
I felt like that's more relatable to me than like this rural kind of Argentinian form.
I don't know, I just I don't know, I just it felt more.
I felt more connected with you for some reason.
Speaker 2It's also and when Evil Lurks, there's this idea that there are like there's like a municipal body that deals with the paranormal, so like it's built into that universe that there's like it's like already existent, where in this you still have the you still have doubt, you know, we have like foodness that's trying to he doesn't doubt by the end, but he's trying to rationalize things, and there's still that sort of human element where when Evil Lurks feels a little bit further removed because there's in that universe, it already is confirmed and exists.
Speaker 1What if this is like a prequel and this is like the evil that lurked and this is how it like spread, it got out of like the cupboard or whatever works.
Yeah, inside your snack cabinet, it's in a junk draw.
The batteries, the scotch tape, it's fine scotch tape.
Speaker 2The chip clips, batteries, thumbtack.
Speaker 3We keep box cutters in ours, and Joey always leaves them open, and I'm like, one of these days, Yeah, man, this is not gonna go well and be like grossing.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I was waiting for a moment where that knife was going to drag him too and with it in order did not have his hands.
Yeah, because all the other stuff that was hanging moved.
Speaker 5I loved the poultry geist or poultry.
Everything had moved around, and everything was stacked up in the way that the utensils, like when I've been to the cabinet looked really cool.
Speaker 2It was a simple effect, like it's it's a very simple thing.
But it's like when the chair is stack in Poulter Guys, when my favorite moment, it's so scary.
It's like it's such a mundane thing, but it's like, that's fucking terrifying.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's one moment something's changed and you can't explain it.
Speaker 3And I just like it was silent.
Speaker 5Yeah, they show up multiple times of like things moving around and you're like, whoa, that was really cool.
Speaker 3Yeah.
I really like the the look of the tall, pale fellow in That's Haunting Walter.
I do feel the need to tell you that when I was typing my notes, I wrote a note that says he videotapes his room at night.
The next morning he sees tall figure on the video.
But I thought you should know that my auto correct change that to he sees y'all figure, y'all.
My auto correct is just like.
Speaker 2I also like that he is a single man with a twin bed.
I was like, this dude does not expect to get laid like at all.
Speaker 3Good catch.
Speaker 2I was like, get that man at least a double bed.
Speaker 3Yeah, right, Like that's.
Speaker 4The probably just a thing you know in college.
Speaker 3I mean, you know, yeah, in college we make do on the twin beds.
Speaker 2What's funny, Like the bed is moving and he's so tired and so beat down that he's just like, I just still want to get in the bed, Like he gets in the bed anyway, even though it's just moved in front of him, and that's that in and of itself is so it's like you're so desperate for a sleep and peace at that point that you just get in the haunted bed anyway.
Speaker 3Win free ride, you know.
Speaker 5Yeah, Yeah, that's a That's actually a really great scene because he does push the bed like to the corner, like maybe he figured out the perspective of seeing this entity, and then all of a sudden it moves back and then it's just like, fuck, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2And I am like, I love that he goes and it just feels so realistic to me that he goes and gets a gun, because it's like someone is in Yeah, I saw someone and go into my wardrobe, and in my head, I'm like, man, if I were in this movie, I would have just shot through my clothes.
Speaker 3I know.
Speaker 1I thought, yeah, I was waiting for Clara and what's the name of Jane on the other side to be like what the fuck?
Speaker 5Right, Well, there was a great scene where he's like, you know, you're hammering on the wall.
But it's like breaking my walll up.
But it was like a portal of whatever it was that was.
Speaker 1That's the I guess that's supposed to be.
Like the disease of it.
It's like going, yeah, you know, creating this in the rains.
Speaker 5Yeah, you know, it's almost like a single uh area that's being shot.
It's not this big, elaborate, you know, world that they're going through.
It's just this neighborhood.
And that's what made it really cool.
Speaker 4People under the stairs.
Speaker 1But like, yeah.
Speaker 3I liked that there were so many like professional paranormal investigators just like locally and just ready to go.
Speaker 4Not doing anything.
Speaker 2Yeah they're ready.
Yeah, at the drop of a hat.
It was like there's a I'm sending a unit.
It's on its way, it'll be there in an hour.
And he's like okay, And I was like, this guy means this.
Speaker 3I wonder if I could find somebody locally here in my city and just be like, I need a paranormal investigator.
Google, I want to see I wonderful just will pop up.
Speaker 2There's gotta be.
Speaker 1Some I want to see a prequel, Like you said, I want to see this team when they're young, like like petty dreadful white, like version of like the Young Doctors, Busts and Ghosts.
Speaker 2I like when he's like, I've been to several of your conferences.
I was like, I want to go to the conference.
Speaker 4That's where the orgies happen.
Everybody knows that.
Speaker 5Sure, why not punch and orgies?
There we go.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1I know this movie is mainly like a bunch of jump scares in a way, and it's sort of but it's I don't know, there's something about the atmosphere, like you said, the characters too, just like they're relatable.
Speaker 4Yeah, exactly.
I like that about it.
Speaker 1And then like just some of the yeah, it feels very human, and then one that really atmosphere creepy stuff happens.
We just linger on it for a while and it's like it's effective.
I remember too, watching the first time.
It scared me a little bit.
Speaker 2I love when he's blown when or when he's trying to like the match to ignite the fire and it keeps going out and you're like, God, that's so frustrating, and then it cuts to the ghost of the guy and he's blowing it out.
I feel like that was a really nice touch and that's not new, it's been done before, but it was really effective for me, especially with the glass in his eyes.
Speaker 1And that's the human element too, is like now he's being haunted by like his friends, you know, his colleagues, Like he came there with them and he lost the doctor.
I wish that moment and when the doctor's inside the fucking cabinet or whatever, like it's just looks like photoshop, and but it's like it's still cool.
It's interesting to think that, Like there's this weird negative space.
Speaker 2Where like, yeah, the perspective thing, you know, where it's like from the front he doesn't see it, but from behind he can.
Speaker 4It gets the perspective thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can't quite explain it, but you know, it's so interesting at the same time, it's a good.
Speaker 2Thought experiment though, where it's like seeing things from different perspectives and that dimensionally things occupy different space depending on what you can perceive.
Speaker 5Well, I loove what the doctor said is like everything you see is not real.
But then all of a sudden, you know, he had this heart attack, he gets doing his car, and then you had this smile scene, which I'm sure smiles stole from this is that you just see the doctor kind of bent backwards and just running up to the cars, like you know, slamming on the window with the bloody handprint.
And that was ooh, that was so good.
Speaker 2You know.
It's funny that I'm trying to remember.
One of the production companies was called like Bloody Window or something, and their logo is like a bloody handprint, and I was like, hey, that's like the thing because we saw in the production company logo and then we made it as like a callback to that moment.
Speaker 3That's cool.
I kind of wish that we had been clued into that different perspective thing earlier on.
I feel like it's fairly late in the movie when that happens, and I wish that we had seen not to have it explained, but just for the characters to notice, like, oh, I see something, but then I take a step over and I'm on the next fence post, and now I don't see it.
And I would have liked to have seen a character like mess with that a little bit, like why do I see it from this angle and not this angle?
And they are confused, and then maybe later Albrect explains like, well, you know realities can coexist like segments of an orange and it just is it all bright?
Who says that?
Yeah, And you know, you know, it's just a difference of a different point of view.
There can be different points of view that are both real and they both have people living in them.
And so I wish that we had sort of been clue because I get like the water thing, I feel like it is spoken in the die, but not necessarily like illustrated consistently throughout, and so I wish to rewatch it's not a little more consistent.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's the ideas, but it's just I need more show.
Speaker 3Show it to it.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5Yeah, I disagree a little bit, only because of the fact that it was explained that the captain and the other guy or the other I guess paranormal investigator was like it's yeah, he was.
He was like, it's all about perspective.
And then all of a sudden, the cap goes up there and he sees the feet or the like crawling under the bed, so he sees the perspective.
He goes to the other house and it's like, here's knocking, and then all of a sudden, like pulls down the siding of the shelving unit and it's like, oh, there it is.
Speaker 1Okay that we've seen on the bed was interesting too, because of the creature looks like it's going away and coming at you at the same time.
Speaker 5Yeah, exactly, the way it was bent.
Speaker 1Around and if there was more than one of them, but yeah, have the same one.
Speaker 4It was weird.
Speaker 5It was creepy as shit.
Speaker 3Man.
Speaker 1Yeah, I thought this, Yeah, this film, I don't know if it does have a creep factor.
Speaker 4I could see some people been like on that movie.
Speaker 1Didn't scare me at all, but like, oh fuck that.
I'm not saying it made me run for the hills or anything, but it definitely gave me a creep factor that like other films don't always do.
Speaker 5Yeah, Caitlin, you said you watched this in the dark, just like watching it.
Speaker 2Yeah, we Tony and I had watched When Evil Lurks and then we let this play right after, and Tony had fallen asleep and the sun had set, so the house was dark, but I hadn't gotten up because I didn't want to wake Tony up.
But I was watching the movie, finishing the movie, and like it was like one of the things where the windows are open, but it's dark, so it's like, oh God, Like I you know, felt like exposed, but I wasn't able to control my surroundings.
I don't know, it was it just it was the perfect environment to be scared.
Speaker 5Yeah, it would scare the living funk out of me if I didn't watch it during the day.
It was just like, oh my god.
The the atmosphere of this movie is fantastic.
It is because it is dark and it's just like you have a house where it's like all the powers cut off because the guy didn't pay his bill, but the other houses have lights, and it's just like, damn, so well done.
Speaker 2I really like it.
I'm a big fan, and I will definitely be excited to see what Demian Rugan does next the same.
Speaker 1Yeah, it makes me feel like it just it makes me feel like everybody in the neighborhood that wasn't involved, like they're not even aware of what's going on.
Like other people in the houses are just living their life, not seeing the you know, the alternate reality that's happening with the police and and the investigators at this moment in this neighborhood.
Speaker 5Well like like like when that one guy goes into the house and he's listening to the voice mask messages from the answering machine, and like he's listening to it.
It's like, you know, you've got to come see this.
Speaker 4And he gave the number to the spirit.
Speaker 1Like is that somehow made the spear able to like now go someplace else because of that?
Speaker 5Like was that well no, not necessarily, because like the mom actually went to the neighbor's house or like the friend that she knew that where the kid was like grabbing his toys.
It's like, oh, these are all my toys.
I'm gonna grab these, and the ship scared the ship out of me.
Is like when the dead kid like turns around and just looks out the window and you're scream.
Speaker 2It's just slight, but it's so scary.
Speaker 4Oh it is, Yeah, And then they put them in the cooler.
Speaker 5That's right.
Speaker 2He puts the heavy plant on top.
I was like, look just in case.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1I love tropes like that, where like there's the cursed item and I threw it out, I burned it.
I brought it eighteen miles down the road and fucking threw it in a plane in the you know, in the river.
Speaker 4And somehow I got home and it's there.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah like that.
Yeah, yeah, that one does it very well, very effective.
Yeah yeah, I love stuff like that.
That's a.
Speaker 3Yeah from it.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it leads into something like you like, it's like someone losing their mind because they're terrorized because like that, Yeah, I do like that.
Speaker 5Didn't the kid kind of remind you of the kid from Orphanage?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 4Visually yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 5Yeah a little bit.
Speaker 1But he had the mask on in that.
Speaker 5Uh oh, I ers what you saw him at the end, and it was just like, it's just reminded me of that.
Speaker 4That's a good movie.
Speaker 3Oh damn we should Was it the floppy neck woman you know who came up to the car and said, you can still save us.
We're being tortured.
Yeah, yeah, I would like to know how he was supposed to save them.
Yeah, maybe she could have given more information.
Speaker 5No, she did, though.
She she actually says that, you know, everything you see is not real.
So maybe that's his thought after his heart attack as he's driving away, because she did say that to him, not everything you see is real?
Speaker 3Yeah, So so how was he supposed to save them?
Speaker 4I don't warning the house but.
Speaker 3Then he's blowing out the match.
Speaker 5I wasn't it was.
Speaker 1It was.
Speaker 3Doctor so but he would have presumably wanted to have been saved as well.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, he was one of them.
Speaker 2Well that's the thing.
Maybe maybe they're lying to him, you know, different parts of it are lying to.
Speaker 1Him, right, They're all lying for some reason.
Yeah, but why, I don't know.
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Speaker 3Terri, I'm terrified than you.
Speaker 5Yeah, I'm terrified.
Speaker 4My dad's more terrified than your dad.
Speaker 2Triffried Berry, Yeah, terrifed.
Speaker 1It's a mashup terror, misuse terrified, missud.
I know I'm really reaching with that one.
I don't know what you're trying to go, terrist.
Speaker 5Yeah, our creature does talk because it's like very ambient kind of sounds, just like.
Speaker 4Yeah, no, he does, just like that.
Speaker 3Just like that's what she heard coming out of the drain.
Speaker 2Scared her.
Speaker 1She's like, I heard voices.
I don't know, is that the garbage disposal?
Speaker 3Nothing?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 4Anyway, Oh good, Well, I feel like we're.
Speaker 3Kind of slowing down here.
Are there any other major points people wanted to make.
Speaker 5I mean, I love this movie.
Goddamn, I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1Okay, Well it is interesting because I like it, and at the same time, there's nothing like huge that like I'm like, oh yeah, like huge talking points, you know what I mean.
Like, it's just an atmospheric film.
Speaker 4It's an experience I enjoyed.
Speaker 5I would say people watch it just just just for the Yeah, for sure.
Sorry, that's all I got.
Speaker 3For sure, for sure, dude.
Speaker 5So what you need to do is put some on.
Speaker 3The don't do it, all right, it's.
Speaker 4So particular as moueno.
Speaker 3All right, Hyderberg, why don't you go first and give us your official review.
Speaker 1And official there's some really earned scarce like I've mentioned here, overall, some really great creepy uh like atmosphere that the film doesn't really let up.
I think it keeps that a good bit, you know, even in the slower moments.
There's just some like's an iminous nature to this film that achieves somewhat effortlessly.
And it's interesting because it's a it's a lower budget film, and for it to kind of like creep you out.
I that I just that's why it's stuck with me.
It's always just been like one of those like hidden gems that I think people should check out because it's not a release that came out in the theater.
It's a shutter original kind of deal.
And it's a foreign film, but I think being foreign is what makes it kind of stand out to me.
I think that's what gives it a little bit of its creep factor.
It does things that we're used to with American films, but does them a little differently.
I think the premise is original and different in its own way, but familiar.
I thought the gore, like the effects, they're very effective.
The practical stuff, you know, yeah, some of the CGI doesn't hold up, you know, the best.
It's done on a budget.
But the practical stuff looks great.
Speaker 3You know.
Speaker 1The boy just I could close my eyes and still see him, and they they could, they could, They could have used him in a way that really harmed the film and made it like cheesy, but they use just sparingly enough and just linger on it, you know, and little movements and little things that just like, did I just see what I thought I saw?
Speaker 4I don't know.
Speaker 1I like stuff like that and it makes rewatching fun.
For a film like this.
So I do think this is a decent rewatch.
I think the atmosphere.
I just thought the way he tells a ghost story is just different and through a different perspective, if you will.
Just like the way they use perspective in this film.
I think they could have utilized that a little bit better.
Like Jacquelin said, maybe show us that mechanic earlier in the film, create that mechanic and create your film around it a little bit, you know, not in a gimmicky way, but just in a way that because it's an interesting mechanic.
Speaker 4I like it.
Speaker 1It's not quite explained that well, but you know, it's it's still interesting.
There's enough there that I can go with the idea.
Uh.
I thought the cast is really good in this too.
We mentioned the pretty human our main guy, you know, a few nays it's just like, you know, scaredy cat kind of police guy.
Speaker 4Just I got one.
Speaker 1I'm getting too old for this shit, you know, I've got one more week till retirement.
Speaker 4I just want to get this done.
Speaker 1But is he like the cop that's assigned to supernatural stuff or weird things?
Speaker 4Is that like his thing?
I don't know, but this world's interesting.
Speaker 1It's it's created a world that I would definitely want to go back to.
Like I said, I thought the scares are pretty earned, and they do rely on some usual jump scare type tactics, but in here they're just done differently.
They hit differently, and there's some good direction.
I thought, this is I think it's his second film maybe, or I think he had another film before this, at least a feature that's a horror film as well.
And I like this director and writer Combo.
I like uh.
I think he's gone places, and I just he's not afraid to go places as far as like pushing the envelope with things that make you feel uncomfortable, and I commend that.
So things like that don't always hit, and it can it can alienate some of your audience, but I think it's risk worth taking.
I do think that the film drags a little bit in the middle.
There's some like explanation stuff that we don't quite get, like we're we're playing a little fast and loose with the investigation stuff, which is like where I think the film drags a little bit, But it's also the interesting part.
You know, I do want to know more, but we separate the doctors and like there's, like you said, Caitlin, there's like that vignette style to it a little bit that I do think harms the film a little bit as far as pacing and just keeping an eye on because we're jumping around narrative wise as well time wise.
There could have been just a little bit more umph.
I think there's there's something missing that would have made this propelled it to like a nine or or you know what I mean, like a like a hereditary like but it's got some of those elements though, that sense of dread, and I don't know, there's something something missing, but there's also something here.
So with all that said, I do really enjoy Terrified.
I think it's a really well made film that people should check out.
So I'm gonna give it.
I'm gonna give it seven point five out of ten.
Speaker 4Serial bowls of death.
Speaker 1Or how do you say canceos de ceio de lee.
I don't know how to say cereal city sense bowls or bowls it would be anyway.
Speaker 5I'll make me.
Speaker 3Say that a right seven.
Okay, Caitlin, what are your thoughts on Terrified?
Speaker 2I really like this one.
I it you know, my first watch, it really truly scared me.
On second watch, I had a lot of fun with it, And on my third watch, which we did as a watch party here at our house, everyone had a good time with it.
The jump scares hit right, the you know, sort of lighter beats and like you know, tonally funny things like him putting cement over the point and putting a plant on the freezer and everything.
Those beats hit really well.
I think that this is genuinely scary.
I think it has a lot of genuine human elements to it that make the characters really relatable.
I think that the scares, although they can feel a little bit disparate and sort of vignette like we talked about, they come together in a way that works for me.
I think that I would have liked even more about the sort of like water theme and how it sort of relates to that.
I would have I would like even more about the different perspectives.
I like what we got.
I think it could use a little bit more.
I think the cast is really good.
I really like Damian Rugna.
I would love to see where he goes next and see, you know, like we said, this one is sort of centralized, like John was saying, this is just like in a tight little neighborhood, whereas when Evil lurks is this larger sort of territory wide thing.
So I'm interested in terms of scope where he'll go next, if he'll go smaller again, or if he'll go wide again.
But I'm really excited to see where he goes.
I think overall I will get this in eight thuds out of ten.
Speaker 3Got it eight out of ten thuds?
Speaker 5Cool, Jacqueline.
Note, Jacqueline, you go next.
Okay, I'm gonna make mine real quick.
Speaker 3So, Okay, I've really enjoyed this movie.
I found it to be very atmospheric.
I watched it mostly during the day, and so I actually really want to watch it again, but like by myself late it with all the lights off.
I think that would be just like sort of a delicious experience and not having to take notes on my phone, but just like settle in and be absorbed in it even more.
I think I'd enjoy it even more.
But I already enjoyed it quite a fair bit.
Like I said, I really enjoy the characters.
I find them to be very relatable.
I enjoy the setting in this one, and find that to be relatable as well.
I live in a suburb, It's more familiar to me.
I actually really like the structure of the storytelling here.
I'm not sure why it works for me.
I think it's because, you know, at a certain point, I realized, oh, we're not really telling Wan's story anymore.
Like we open with Juan and Clara, but then we're moving on to Walter's story, and then that moves on to the kid who gets hit by the bus, And at a certain point with Walter, I recognized, oh, like we've totally switched gears.
We're getting a whole second story here.
But I think it worked for me because ordinarily something like that might bother me that I'm like, this is jumping, it's two separate blah blah.
But we were aware of a link from the beginning, you know, because we know that Juan lives next door to Walter and was like banging on the wall and goes to his front door trying to you know, call him on the little box to tell him to shut the fuck up.
And so there was a link there, a little minor connection that I was like, Okay, this is still related somehow, and so I just trusted the filmmaker to like tie it all together from it.
And then the kid getting hit by a bus, obviously that's tied in too.
He's across the street, he's you know, coming up to the door, and Walter's telling him get away from there.
So it's all connected.
And so I didn't mind that it felt a little episodic at first, because I the writer, the writing gave me enough of a connection that I trusted that it would come together.
I was like, this is all going to come together somehow, and it did so.
And I like the kind of frame story of Juan talking to the investigators at first, and then it comes back around that he's talking to different people, you know, mostly different people at the end.
What I'm glad didn't happen was I'm glad we didn't have a whole exploration of the part of the story that in real life would have happened where we had to deal with police actually being suspicious of one and like prosecuting him and like not believing his story.
Like you know that that will be part of the story somewhere, but like, I'm glad that that just wasn't part of the movie.
But like in real life, that would happen, but I just I wouldn't be interested in that.
I'm glad we were just talking about it's implied, but like, we don't have to that.
We don't have to go down that route.
We don't have to go through the well, then how do you explain this?
And like so and so found your.
Speaker 4Like it's an American thing.
Speaker 3We just don't We don't even have to do that.
I don't need the police procedural.
That's fine.
I'm I'm interested in the people who like kind of already believe him, you know what I mean.
And so I'm just glad that that wasn't a whole tangent because I feel like some writers might have written that into the movie and it would have been a distraction.
Yes, it would have happened in real life, but I didn't want to watch it in this movie, and I didn't have to, So that's good.
Like I said, my main complaints are really just some disjointedness, not in the storytelling, but in the explanation of the evil that's happening.
It seems a little willy nilly to me.
And there is dialogue that tells us certain things are true, but we don't see them very much, and we are only told this dialogue relatively late in the game.
Caitlin, you already mentioned it specifically, the water thing, like Albrecht says, oh, is it albrect?
Yeah, okay, she says, oh, it's the water's the vehicle or whatever.
It's like, Okay, that's very interesting, But like, could that have been played up more so that it would have been a little more noticeable and I wouldn't have to only see it in retrospect and also the different perspectives thing, because I find that to be extremely interesting and possibly the most you unique element of the whole like evil situation, the whole supernatural situation that we have here.
I'm very interested in this idea of separate realities that are coexisting adjacent to each other.
I would have liked to have explored that more.
And I feel like that was almost sort of like the crux of the character's experience of that evil and so I just I wish that that could have been shown and played up more.
I would have enjoyed that a lot more.
You know, we see it like only explicitly really one time, when he's like shifting his head slightly and you now you see me.
No you don't, you know, And that was cool, But it's like, could we have just involved that more consistently throughout all of the experiences that the characters have in this in this film, because I find that to be very unique.
So that's that's kind of I feel like that's sort of like, you know, early filmmaker stuff where you have a cool idea and you stick it in your movie, but you maybe don't have the experience to know that you got to weave that in throughout a little bit more.
So that's those two things are really kind of my main dings.
But I think the atmosphere is absolutely killer.
It's so dark and dreadful.
I love it.
So I really enjoy this.
I was pretty riveted throughout.
There were a couple moments where I felt like it was a little draggy, but it wasn't.
It wasn't overwhelming or anything.
So I like this movie a lot.
I'm going to give it eight out of ten.
Serial bowls of death HUDs.
I like Cereal bulls.
I'm gonna say, yeah, John, what about you?
Speaker 5Yeah, I'm going to be higher than you, guys.
I love this movie.
I love the acting.
Yeah you can look at the slower parts and you know, kind of pick apart this that.
And we talked about Skincare.
You know, that was his first whoever was direct her all debut, and it was just like, okay, yeah, there's a lot of problems with this.
I didn't have any problems with this movie.
This movie can go up or down for me, but it was a one time watch for me, and I loved it.
And like Caitlin, you know, it scared the fucking shit out of me.
I mean they were They were just like three memorable jump scares and I don't remember the last time I got jump scared in a movie.
So I really love this movie.
I really really do.
And Hydrobird well done on this one because it flew under my radar and I'm just like, I'm so glad to watch it.
It was awesome.
So I'm gonna give this a nine out of ten.
Cereal Bowls of Death Thuds who.
Speaker 4I don't know, man, the brand of Cereal, I don't remember.
Speaker 2It's like a fruit loop or something.
It was something colorful, kitty, it was Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5I think you're right.
I think it was.
Speaker 4Terrified terrifiers, terrified.
Speaker 5Ter audio.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, it looks like we're all kind of in the same neighborhood there, get it.
Well, that's another thing I liked as well, that it wasn't just like a single house that was like haunted, like a little a little community of han.
Speaker 5I also gave that perspective of like, like what the power gets cut off and you got two guys in one house, another person in another house, another person in another house, And was just like, I love that that was different.
Speaker 4Good YEA.
Speaker 3Well, sadly, I don't really have any trivia about this movie.
There's like one trivia fact on IMDb, and I thought it was boring, So okay, I don't really have any trick.
So that's it.
That's pretty much it for Terrified.
I too appreciate that you chose this Hydroberg because I had not seen this before, and you know, it's kind of a generic title, to be honest with you, and I've scrolled past it on shutter a bunch of times, and I didn't I didn't have the slightest idea what it was about.
I had know it.
I went into it completely cold and so but you know, without knowing anything about it, I wouldn't have just like stopped and chosen on my own.
So I'm glad you.
Speaker 1I feel like after When Evil Lurks, it probably got a little bit more play, you know.
Speaker 4But yeah, I think it deserves a watch though.
Speaker 1If you're a horror fan, I think there's something there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 5Well, you get a bunch of ads from Hefty for some reason.
Speaker 3So that's it for Terrified.
Now, John, it's your pick.
What have you chosen?
Speaker 5Well, a movie that it's not coming out until Friday, okay on Shutter.
It's been out, I guess limited release may Bee v O D.
But we're gonna do Cloud and a cordon Field.
Speaker 4Nice.
Speaker 2I watched that one, did you I did?
Yeah?
I have fun with it.
Speaker 5Okay, Okay, I've never seen it.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1Oh, so it will be new for all of us from the Tucker and Dale guys.
Speaker 5Right yeah, yeah, the same director.
But yeah, we're going to be watching that coming out on Shutter on Friday, so we'll be reviewing it next week.
Speaker 3Cool.
I'm glad you're not making us watch something that costs like ten bucks to rent or something.
Speaker 2I love a streaming review.
Speaker 3Yes, thank you?
All right, Well, that that was it for Terrified.
Next week, we'll be doing clown in a cornfield now.
If you'd care to share your thoughts on that one with us, you can email us at a cut above Horror Review at gmail dot com.
Now, we did have a lovely listener right into us this past week, Hydroberg.
Did you want to read that or did you want me to?
Speaker 1Sure?
Speaker 5All?
Speaker 1Yeah, Purple Soul seventeen wrote in, Hi guys, big fan of your guys' podcast.
Speaker 4Found you through Plug it Up?
Oh thank you, Kaylin.
Speaker 1A great episode to read this also another awesome podcast it is.
I got to say I have been loving your segment on horror remakes.
I remember the first time watching Dawn of the Dead two thousand and four when I was like ten years old on Chris A Young one here when I was ten years old on Christmas Eve five on DVD and we had Yeah, we had to stop it because of the cold opening, scaring the Bejesus out him.
Speaker 4Yeah you can see that, I.
Speaker 1Mean you're ten, Yeah sure, yeah, But now it's like one of my favorite horror films.
Also, more good harm remake movies I like are the Crazies.
Speaker 4That's a good one.
I actually like that one better than the original, me too.
Speaker 3It's really the Blob.
Speaker 1Great pick from nineteen eighty eight, House on Haunted Hill nineteen ninety nine, When a Stranger Calls two thousand and six.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, I almost picked that for last month.
Speaker 1Oh cool, and I can't wait to listen to more of your episodes in the future.
Stay Spooky and Safe from Purple Soul seventeen and as a ps here to Jacqueline m hm, tell Jacqueline that I do relate to her going to sleep with the bedroom door closed.
Sleeping with the bedroom door open is scary.
Congratulations John on your engagement.
Speaker 3Correct and correct.
Yes, I appreciate that.
Thank you, Purple.
That's really sweet.
And also I agree with your opinions on other good remakes.
The Crazies is great, The Blob is great.
It's I think that one's a little overlooked.
And also I don't know if I've mentioned it on the show or not before, but I love the When a Stranger Calls remake.
It's like it took all of the good parts of the original and cut out all of the boring parts, which is most of it, and it just takes that good part and extends it to a full length movie.
And I think it's great and I'm gonna pick it sometime anyway, even though it's not remake Month anymore.
Speaker 5Yeah, Jacqueline, you did say that, and I can't wait to review it.
And Kaitlyn, do you sleep with your bedroom door close?
Speaker 2I used to always sleep with my bedroom door close, but now, and this is very romantic, we have a litter box in our bedrooms.
We have the door open so that the cat can come in and should you need to come in.
Speaker 3But I have a practical reason that makes practical reason, But I prefer to sleep at the door shut, okay, makes me feel safe.
Speaker 5I also milk or without.
Speaker 2I do both.
Tony likes to make fun of me because I love cheerios honeynut cheerios and eating them playing and he's like, oh, like a little toddler, like he just like you.
Speaker 3Know, like whatever, it's good, it's good.
I also have ad though to the bedroom door thing, is that if you have a bathroom that connects to your bedroom, like which I do, I also have to have my bathroom door closed.
Speaker 4So you don't want that open in.
Speaker 5All right.
Speaker 1Some people have like a little nightlight on in there so you can kind of just like, see when you walk in and I know where the lights when you look around, like I'm like.
Speaker 4Like a weirdo just for opening a door.
Speaker 3I'm just saying I know how to work a door knob, and I know how to work a light switch.
I know, I know my hand in and flip the switch and then I can see.
Speaker 4You know, some people like nightlights.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 3Not me.
Speaker 4I mean, I don't need that.
Speaker 3I'm not ridiculing a nightlight idea.
I'm ridiculing the idea that I would need to keep the door open so that I know how to get in.
Speaker 4I just don't think the door needs to be closed if nobody's inside of it.
Speaker 5It's true.
Speaker 3Well, to be fair, there's another reason as well, which even if.
Speaker 1I don't want to get in the weed too about kind of stuff.
To be honest, it's like three episodes in a row.
Yeah, we're revealing too much about ourselves too.
Speaker 3I don't okay, all right?
Speaker 5Fit when door open?
And she likes to eating cereal with milk, so Jacquelin and you're left out?
Speaker 2I like both, truly.
Speaker 5You just said had cheerios.
Speaker 2That was it?
Speaker 3Anyway, that was a very sweet email.
Thank you, Purple Soul and if anybody else wants to email us, I already said it, but you can drop us a line at a Cut Above Horror Review at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 5And Caitlin plug it up your most recent episode of The Woman in the Yard.
Fantastic episode.
What do you have coming out?
Speaker 2Well, thank you, that's very kind of you.
I am releasing an episode on Hostile Part two next Tuesday, So Hostile Part two Electric boogloo out, and then I will be releasing on the Devils from the Seventies with Oliver Reed Ken Russell.
So yeah, a big one there.
Speaker 5Nice, Well, make sure you're you familiar one for me.
Speaker 2It was banned in a lot of countries.
Speaker 3It was.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's something so.
Speaker 5Socials for you.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I'm plugging up pod on Instagram and Twitter and people can always email me at plug it Up Pod at gmail dot com.
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Horror review five star ratings, rating rating wonderful, thank you.
Speaker 3Yeah.
In the meantime, everybody should go watch Clown in a Cornfield starting Friday, free on Shutter hooray.
And we'll be back next week talking about that film and
Speaker 4Keep it creepy.