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What did we tell you come here and take it?

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Okay, I can't believe that was real.

I forgot that was from last year.

I was Minnesota last year.

But that's what you felt like.

Yeah, there's a reason why you shouldn't do those things like immediately after a game, due to too much THHC consumption and food consumption and excitement.

You might sound like Tony Dombrowski after a Lion's victory.

Good life lesson.

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Ah, hey man, it's great to see you this week.

Last week it was not fuck no, thank god that's over.

We're back, so great to be back.

I felt good for you yesterday.

Yeah yeah it needed Yeah, this show would have been over.

Yeah, went another way.

So yeah, fuck Ben John Right, I felt.

Good for you.

It was good to see you.

Know that all that we were concerned about, at least for the time being, is right.

Maybe the Bears are just awful till next Monday.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was kind of funny watching the Vikings game last night and how bad they were in getting their butts kicked at home to the Falcons.

The game stunk, which made me think maybe the Bears and Vikings are just both awful and that made me, You'll feel a little less good about things.

But what the Lions looked like yesterday was the Lions that they were a year ago when they just get rolling that the type.

There aren't many NFL teams that can put fifty on people, and the Lions are one of them.

And there are years where there is an NFL team that can do that stuff.

The Lions are that team, and.

I'm in denial of maybe the Packers are actually good team.

I mean, you do what you gotta do to get through the the first two games.

I understand that, but I'm just saying, you know, you want to sit there and make sure you see a couple of games before you just anoint the Packers like this NFC championship team.

What do they have Cleveland this week?

Somebody like that.

We'll find out about the Packers.

I don't even Yeah, but they had, you know, so much time off since the last time they played.

I mean, the floor is going to be prepared.

I get it.

Green Bay is scary, but they had listened.

The Lions had to get back on track yesterday, and they did such that.

But there's still questions.

We have questions.

There were good value bets to be made on the Lions Division Lions NFC last week.

Those are probably going away just because you know, people overreact.

There might be good value the other way on MSU football right now, which I think the if if you find a live season wins line, it might be up to seven someplaces.

Maybe take the under on that a little bit.

I'm just looking to, uh, if you got too much invested in the other way or something, because.

Can I get on Jonathan Smith makes a year three?

What can I get it?

Right now?

I'd like to know what.

Would you take if you had ten to one he does not?

Would you take I'd take it eat, I'd sprinkle for sure with you absolutely listen.

It doesn't have anything to do with Jonathan Smith.

You can still think someone's a nice guy, but maybe just not the right fit wise position.

So I don't know.

So what you saw against Young's State, you think.

Well, the end of the first half was a little suspect and some decisions made there the defense.

I mean that's on ROSSI Are we doing the show or are we doing the takes?

Now?

We're just getting into it.

Let's just get into it.

Yeh, Listen, I'm not rooting for Jonathan Smith to not make it into his third season.

I'm just saying he's a hall Or guy.

Jay Back comes in and wants to make these changes.

And if this team, I don't know what they're gonna look like against the USC you need to convince me right now that they're going to go in and win that game.

I'm not even talking about the point spread.

You tell me how.

And by the ways, Nick Marsh, Okay, we had an update, instry update.

So here's what came out of the press conference Jonathan Smith today.

Several injuries.

Uh luka Vinciic is out for the year, which is not great.

The starting right guard, he had sort of won that job.

Was he in a rotation?

Was he like the he had won the job as a starter and now at the beginning he was gonna be the guy.

But they do have some depth there.

Alante Brown appears to be long term injury, not great for him and pre games, I mean that stuff happens in soccer only usually and Mackay Fraser and Jonathan's and Nick Marsh, Makai Fraser and Nick Marsh, Jonathan Smith said were not anywhere near that shorter term things.

They were going to see how they were at the end of the week, which is much more promising.

And I asked him later because he did at that point sort of talk about, you know, you want to see what they're able to do throughout the week.

And some coaches have this thing where if guys don't participate in practice, they don't they don't play.

And my question that Jonathan Smith, well, nick Marsh is nick Marsh, Like, does that apply to everybody?

If somebody's a veteran, do they need as much practice if if they're that critical to the team.

And he said, you know, if Nick Marsh is good to go, you'll see him out there on the field, like he gets not everybody is the same.

And so that was promising in terms of Nick Marsh perhaps being able to play at USC.

I don't know if he'll be able to or not.

They do have a bye week after that, so if you're just looking for a guy to get totally right, that would make some sense.

The flips out of that.

They'll still have the bye week, so he'll have a couple of weeks.

If if he's good to go, I think he'll play.

It's a big moment.

They're out at USC It's not a place they've played off and although they will now that they're in the conference more often.

But yeah, in terms of in terms of the game and the season and where things are, I get why the vibes are have shifted downward.

I really do, because it was a deflating game coming It was a deflating day coming off that game.

Not just that game, but the Boston College game and the games that happened around.

You know, when you start to look at Michigan State's.

By double digits, when you're a double digit fave, I don't want to hear any of that shit.

Wow.

Yeah, to go to the West Coast like you win that game, you don't cover the spread.

That's fine, I get that, So the spreads for guys like us.

But you got to go to Stanford win.

There are two points on it.

And then Western Michigan lost thirty nine nothing in Illinois, So there there are a couple few points to make.

If you're looking at give me the spin zone.

Let me give me the spin zone on that before I get in some other stuff.

All Right, here's the deal with I was following that Stanford game against Boston College a little bit because I'd interested.

I was Upbriting and I was thinking, what what's going on here?

And at one point Boston College is up seventeen to six.

They are in control of the game, They are the better team.

They have one really bad turnover.

They had a couple of nasty injuries.

I mean they've had injuries going, like injuries the sort of injuries that if you pay attention closely to a team, if they were your team, like if this was Michigan State, you'd say, well, that's why they lost, like Nick marsh type injuries.

Go, oh, that's the difference.

They were up, they were tied twenty twenty.

They were going up to go up twenty seven to twenty.

The running back, that turbo guy, he gets into the deck.

Yeah, he fumbles into the end zone, touched back the other way.

So instead of being up twenty seven to twenty, they fumbled the end zone.

And the team did they look like they quit.

They did not look organized.

Bill Brian looked bat what I would say, though, and so that's that's not a good result.

But that was not the same The team that I saw out in Stanford was not the team that was in Spartan Stadium.

So while again not good that the team that was in Spartan Stadium would beat Stanford ten out of ten times, the Boston College team that I saw on now so you can say, you know, they had to go back to Boston.

They fly across the country.

These are nineteen twenty year olds, and they did get deflated.

The thing went downhill that they ought to take care of that auto team, like Stanford, they did not.

That's bad, but that is not the team you saw in Spartan Stadium in terms of quality.

In terms of Western Michigan, which has not had a great start their own three as well, they blew a game in overtime in North Texas and then got just flattened by Illinois.

I've also seen, with having covered Western Michigan I lived in Kalamazoo, what it looks like that third and fourth week, especially when you get a couple high majors in a row at that level, and what the toll takes in your body and how you just so I've seen it.

I've just seen it.

I've seen it.

So I'm just letting people know.

What about Stanford going down the road for their first two games, this was their home game, the true first home game again after losing to Hawaii and BUYU not ideal.

I think the more concerning thing for Michigan State is their defense was on the field at Michigan State, correct.

I think I think the games around them.

The BC thing had just added to it.

Correct, It did not add to the vibes.

Like if BC had gone out to Stanford one fifty four to nothing, people would be like, all right, maybe this young Sound State thing was just you know, the problem is they didn't look like the superior team at the line of scrimmage offen enough.

They couldn't run the ball the way they could the first two weeks, and maybe Youngstown State winds up being a decent, you know, FCS team, it's still an FCS team.

The quarterback threw for he's only twice thrown for more passing yards than he did, and it was against FCFS teams now at the end of last year SIU in Northern Iowa, right, And I understand also that they were more worried with him about containing the run, and they did that fairly well with him after he did two hundred and sixty four yards rushing the previous week, so you're playing a style of defense with that you know, that was not a good perform that was not an encouraging performance.

They will not play another team this year outside of maybe a UCLA team that has everybody transferred before then, and just fire their coach and we'll get into ucl in a minute, because we've got some questions about Jonathan Smith and that whole thing.

They will not play a team outside of perhaps a UCLA team that falls apart in like MSU Meltucker twenty twenty three fashion.

Yeah, I don't.

We don't have enough time for all of that.

As bad as Young Sound State all season, and they struggled with and they struggled to run the ball, which isn't encouraging because that had been something that was there.

And defensively they weren't in control.

And just when you start to think they were taking control, they give up a drive late and they give up seven plays of seventeen yards or more.

That can't That just can't happen.

You've got to be better than that.

You've got to be deeper than that, you've got to be physically the better team than that.

And there's no other way around it.

And that's concerning you go into a USC team that still has something to prove US was okay against Purdue they beat him thirty three seventeen, but one of those things is a pick six.

They settle for a lot of field goals.

They've got weapons, but they don't look completely in sync.

And the USC had some issues coming east and kind of got over those a little bit.

And I think this is a tough game.

I don't don't think USC is oregan of last year, or they haven't proven themselves yet to be that sort of team, or whatnot.

Will Michigan State make them look like well this year?

The thing for Michigan State is regardless of their I shouldn say regardless of the defense, the defense is going to have to play decently or its best game.

Beyond that, they have to have Nick marsh.

This is not you know, I thought Crystalari he says a lot of things, and this was one of the best things he's ever said, that Nick March is their equalizer.

He told me after the game.

That was a great way of putting it, because it is true for all your flaws, like, okay, you don't have the defensive backs to match up with what us he has, well you know what us he doesn't have for somebody to match up with Nick Marsh.

I thought he's going to play defense Marsh.

No, No, But what I mean is he gives you something that is just a problem for everybody, and especially the way Chiles is playing right now, and then the trickle down with that.

When you have a number two as good as Omari Kelly, that you know it gives you a chance to be in games, to win a shootout, or at least be interesting in a game like this.

I think without him as good as Kelly is, and I think they've got good receivers.

Their NFL guy is Nick Marsh.

Their first round you know they're starting NFL guys Nick Marsh.

And I'm not saying Kelly won't have an opportunity in the NFL.

I'm just saying they're difference makers.

Nick Marsh he has to play for them to go out there and have a chance.

Even if Childs plays really well, I just don't because I don't think that defense is going to be able to get USC off the field enough for Michigan State minus Nick Marsh's pace on offense, I think they're gonna have to hit you know, and Nick Marsh allows you to hit with some more big plays.

He allows Look what he did against Dungtown State when they couldn't run the ball all of a sudden early in the game, they went to this quick passing with Marsh and put him in space one on one and and he made that guy look like, you know, look bad.

I think that injury is just is everything.

Now will he play?

I have my doubts, but again I don't know.

And they left it up in the air today, but I think that's I don't think Michigan State's likely to win the game either way, but I think they have any sort of shot.

They need Nick Marsh on the field, but they just don't have enough guys.

What what would be the smart play?

Obviously we want Nick Marsh to play, right if you telling you it's so early into the season.

If I understand, if he's healthy, but what does that mean?

Like I see what you're saying, You know what I mean?

If the injury is going to be one of these nagging things, do you sit him against USC to lose that game and then have that buy to let him rest.

This is not a ten year NFL VET playing in the Super Bowl.

I don't.

I don't think, and it's not even they treat these injuries so differently nowadays.

It's not even a college football playoff game.

But even then, this is a sophomore who's planning to have a long NFL career, and you also want to show that you you know that your big picture for players like him is to take care of him and to set him up when you're trying to recruit these guys, you know, you don't want to look like you know, you don't want Nick Marsh to have a nagging injury become something more serious.

And I don't think they would do that.

I'm just saying you don't want anything to happen.

That then goes wait a second, but why was he on the field.

That's not a good look.

Again.

If Nick Marsh is good to go and he wants to play, you play him.

I don't think there's any question about that.

And if he's not, you don't.

I think it's that simple.

You don't think about the bye week tremendously.

If he's healthy enough to play Saturday, then he plays Saturday.

If he's not healthy enough to play Saturday, you don't play Saturday.

And he's got the BI week either way, that's the way I would look at that.

I think Michigan State's in a little bit of trouble this week.

I do not think USC is quite as scary though, as I mean, they've got some big strike ability and all that.

I get that they're not quite as scary as some of the teams Michigan State has played out west recently.

And I think that's sort of what some people's head.

They remember Washington, you know, a couple of years ago.

They remember Washington coming east and what they did to Michigan State.

They remember Oregon.

I don't think this team, this program is quite there, and I think they're more vulnerable defensively.

The question is, you know, can Michigan State run the ball without Makai Frasier, Can they you know, can they have enough big strike ability and offense?

Will they have Nick marsh Because what we saw from that defense is is hard to imagine them being able to keep USC under thirty points.

What's the spread on that right now?

Its a half, it's it's it's more than that now.

I think it's up to seventeen and a half for USC.

It's getting to the range where if they have Nick Marsh, it would get interesting.

It's getting to a range where it's too big.

I think, what did you make of the Youngstown state line dropping at twenty three and a half and people because people were setting that to me, like that seems pretty light, Like why is it?

Yeah, I sit there and wait all week for a number to hang, and then they put twenty three and a half out there, and I'm like, glad I didn't put it out there.

They're an injury Couch didn't tell us about or something.

I was tempted to tell people jump on that, and I'm glad I didn't because I thought, hett, I think I put forty.

I just didn't.

I thought they would be able to put it.

And even as the game went along and they were struggling for a while, and then they got up seventy, I thought they're gonna they're gonna get above twenty three, they're gonna win by, you know, twenty four to thirty one.

I still thought they were gonna but that defense wouldn't allow it to happen.

That's Michigan say defense.

Augus knows to August, I don't know if Augus knows this.

Here's here's a real question whether Vugus no, no, they dropped it at twenty three and a half.

We're pretty much right.

So yeah.

But here's here's where, Here's where August doesn't know.

Like how you say it, You took the bit even further, you say Vegas even in a worse way.

August does not know that Nick marsh is worth between seven and ten points to this game.

August may not know.

They won't It'll be half a point of that.

A receiver at the college level will not move the line.

That's where August struggles.

You want to catch vugas.

Catch Vugas on their inability to understand in a college game, especially how much one player beat a glue guy in basketball.

Whatever it might really shifts a game, and it won't move the line.

August, Vugus knows numbers.

August does not know hoops.

August does not know football.

You're sorry, that's bad, all right?

What is your first take?

Guna Yaba Gita, Jared god great win yesterday, rock solid, Jared Goff baby five touchdowns.

The offense is back.

The defense, on the other hand, man, that first drive really scared the shit out of me by the Bears, when they just went down the field and scored that touchdown, like this is going to be a long day.

But on the injury front of who saw this coming?

Marcus Davenport is injured.

I'm not sure if we've heard any injury update news as Dan Campbell talked yet, I don't think he has.

But when you see the Cowboys sign a guy like Jadevian Clowney, and I see Zadarias Smith on the Eagles yesterday and he's making certain plays and he's on a short term deal and whatever Bosa big nose brother they have in Buffalo, I forget which one it is, Nick or Joey, but I mean these guys are all on short contracts.

And my just question to Brad Holmes is what do you need to see in the Ravens game?

Right?

I mean, we sit there and harp on Hutch and all this stuff, But if you don't get the guy some sort of other defensive end help on that right side, I mean, does he really trust some of the guys.

I know he's a big guy.

I love my guys, but really do you trust Al Mohammed or Tyler Lacy or Tyrus Weed If Marcus Davenport's out at all.

I mean, what is the fear I need?

I guess Brad Holmes needs to let people know that the fan based.

I know he doesn't like the fan base sometimes maybe if he could let us know what the fear would be of signing some guys to that short of a deal where you can get rid of guys in the NFL.

This isn't like they come into your locker room and they become a cancer and you have to keep them in there, right If they come in there that way, then you just kick them to the curb and move on to the next guy.

That's how these elite teams win super Bowls.

And I would like to see a super Bowl in my lifetime.

Of forty six, I don't know how many more seasons or five year plans I have, so I would like to jump at these guys.

I know that you want to keep your guys, Brad, but you know there's not many criticisms coming your way except maybe a few, and I think this is one of them.

Like why do we sit there and stan pat while these other franchises make moves like that and win Super Bowls.

One of my dreams for this show is to be able to do a Monday show with you the day after the Lions win a super Bowl, just to see the state of mind you would be in to hear what that's it might you might be, you might be.

It might just be me talking to your corpse.

But getting at Bernie's and Tea comes and promps me up in the chair.

Perfect like those funerals in Mexico, or they stuffed the.

Guys cards rob moving your hands to press the buttons to move your board, it'd be perfect.

It'd be great either way, whatever you gotta do to get me here.

I'm just saying, after the parade and everything, I don't know if I'll survive or if I want to.

I mean, that's a great way to go out.

So I I I'm just saying I think this week is really interesting against the Ravens for this reason.

The Packers look like an elite team.

They may not be as elite as they look, but they look they're obviously a contender based on what we've seen.

We know that right the Ravens are too.

And so this is the company you're you're making sure you still keep.

This is who the Lions were last year.

The Bears might be just truly awful.

You're at home.

It was the Ben Jhonnson game.

Whatever.

I'm not saying.

The Lions aren't aren't really really good, and they showed some things.

But now you have Lamar.

Now you have Lamar, and now you have the type of team you're gonna have to beat to win a super Bowl.

And so this to me is telling.

If you're you, you don't even have to win a game, but it has to be a game that looks like a game that could go either way, you know, like, but if if it doesn't, if you look like the lesser team because of whatever reason, be it your offensive line, your inability to contain Lamar, and Lamar is a little different than most quarterbacks, right because it's a different type of pass rush and you're you can't run at them.

He's the type of quarterback our defense has a problem with all that, absolutely, you know.

But if there is something that you can't deal with with him, you're probably not gonna be able to deal with it with Josh Allen either, and you need to go fix that.

Be it the offensive line, be it something on defense that that should be an early season.

Tell that you don't have enough.

And again, if it's a toss up game and you'll give you.

Had a Micah Parsons to kind of spy Lamar that that would be nice, not Jack Campbell and anal zone, you know, because because it looks like and maybe the Chiefs put it together now, but it looks like it's probably a Lamar Josh Allen that that you're dealing with at the end of the rainbow on the other side in the Super Bowl.

Anyway, I just came up with that.

Good.

Yeah, that's pretty good.

Yeah, the end of the rainbow, so of the gold pot or whatever.

Yeah, no, I yeah, I'm with you.

I just don't know.

I think you can lose the game.

But if as long as Lamar does not put up video game numbers and your defense looks embarrassing and Terry and Arnold gets torched, you know, time after time, and we don't get any pressure on Lamar, and you know, tho's just those third and six where Lamar runs for a first, you know what I mean, Like, I agree, I can agree with you in a weird way.

You know, this is not a must win like the Bears game was, but you have to kind of show something against the Ravens, albeit at their place, to make, you know, make people start to believe again, you know, and I still want to believe, you know that, really the Bears are going to be complete ass.

I think this year it was fun beating Ben Johnson, but really, are we what are we taking away?

I feel bad for Bears.

I think what we took away from that is is that Dan Campbell hates Ben Johnson like they hate each other.

And there's a lot of play like Brian I think, so I think there's something to it.

I think the players are really annoyed because Brian Branch, the god of the Lion's defense, did say that he's like man, really, out of all places, he went to Chicago, So I think there's a little problem with that.

You know, well, I'll then treat every week like Ben Johnson's on the other side.

Please do that.

Do that, pretend whoever one dressed like Ben Jones, whatever you gotta do.

Do you have any other takes before we get to the loser takes?

We got to talk about them quick.

Scamping and so many Dude, we got six and a half games up on the Guardians and we play him six times.

We have them and the Braves left.

Right, This is not going to be an epic collapse.

Right.

I again, and I saw the World Series odds and it said ten to one for the Tigers, and a part of me went, if it were one hundred and one hundred to one odds, I don't, I mean, I would take it.

There's value.

You can't play long.

You gotta be literal, Larry.

Every time I say something, I understand you'd have to sprinkle on one hundred to one odds.

But right am, I this The feeling I have about this team has been one and I've said it before on this show, but I feel like I have to say it again because I did feel that way when I saw the ten to one.

I go like, that doesn't seem like it seems kind of light, Like, how are we only a ten to one to win this World Series When I've watched pretty much every game this season and I I want to believe, but I just can't the way this team plays sometimes, and it's coming down to where we have to sweat this Guardians.

I know we have three at home and then we go three to their place, but we really are we gonna really have to sweat this.

You just go from you know, having the first round by to having a sweat the Guardians and it's just like it's a it's been a wild season.

Definitely not as fun as it was last year.

This is a yeah, it's it's I want to say it's a fun series because it feels like a big series, but it's one of those series that it's big.

It's big, but it's not.

It's it's fun.

In this standpoint, the Tigers don't have to do much because when you're up six and a half with so little time left, yeah, one win is just crippling.

I mean the Guardian and pretty much have to sweep them.

You know, if you look at their six teams left against the Guardians, anything less than five and one against the Tigers.

From their standpoint, it's curtains four and two doesn't do it.

You're only making up two games.

Like they have to go minimum five and one to have a chance to catch the Tigers in my book, And so if you're the Tigers, that takes some of the pressure off.

I guess if you start to losing things, mount is it's a big series.

It feels like fun, except all year long and for quite a while at least, I've been thinking what really matters to this Tigers team is if they finish in the first or second spot in the American League and get that buye Because to me, if they don't get the buy I don't even care if they win the division because they're not doing shit.

They're not if they don't get to buy in the first round.

I know a lot of people have got to win the division first, Great, what are you gonna do then lose three games?

It's not lose best a three Like to me, you want to win that division?

You want you, yes, but winning the division only matters if you also that's not if you also get the top two seat.

To me, that's at this point it would be I would not care if they won the division and and didn't get a top two seed.

If I mean, it's not that I wouldn't watch those first wild card round, but it'd be like just it's just going to end at some point here.

The only chance they have to pull off ten to one or whatever miracle it is is if they get that buy and don't have to play the first round and can get get Finnegan back healthy and set up school ball and get there the whole thing going, and that's the only chance they have.

So I think this schoolble scary.

Yesterday, I know it came back that it was pretty much nothing and yeah, but yeah, if that Schooble goes out that really there's no point of paying attention anymore.

It'll be it'll be a fun week and hopefully if we win, and probably the most entertaining thing we'll see this week.

I know the Lions Bears was, and you know, when you're watching Lions Bears or you're watching the Tigers, you got other things you want to watch.

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That's that's right, we need it.

Time.

All right, let's uh, are you ready to dig into these?

I got a couple of the hot takes, but they work within what the listeners are going to get to, so I'll just hold them.

Sure, good, all right, let's dig in.

Eric Schultze first, everyone, and we're back to believing in Jonathan Smith.

An absolute embarrassment in red flags galore.

And two, the fact that Youngstown looked relatively even with MSU at the line of scrimmage is say it with me, Graham, unacceptable.

And three I said in the preseason they had to be three and oh at this point, and they are the expectation remains seven and five, but I don't see how they get there.

Well, how they get there.

I mean Ucla Maryland.

Right, we're talking about two of those that gets you to five, and so the question is where are the other two?

And the thing I would say is there are games, especially the home games, where I think they'll be up for them, where I think, if they're healthy enough with Chiles and marsh and that receiving core Andre Amari Kelly, where they can be interesting.

I think Michigan could be one of them.

Now, Michigan looked like a buzzsog in Central and I know it's just Central Michigan, but that looked like a team unleashed.

And then you talk about the transitive property and things like Stanford and Boston College.

Well, you know Mexico, who Michigan beat, and everybody thought that wasn't impressive, just laid one on Ucla.

Now Ucla is bad.

They fired their coach because of that game.

But that went over New Mexico now looks like a better win.

So we'll see what Michigan is.

This is a big week for Michigan playing at Nebraska.

They're favored at Nebraska.

That'll be really telling like, we learn a lot more.

But Penn State has been better than Michigan State at times over the course of years, and played games at Spartan Stadium have been very close.

What will Minnesota be when Michigan State goes there?

Indiana again, they look phenomenal, but they have played absolutely nobody.

Now Michigan State just played nobody and did not look phenomenal, So that's not good.

In other words, your point is taken.

I would not pick them to get to seven and five right now.

I'd picked them to somewhere pick up another game, I think.

But if I had to tell you, I wouldn't tell you to take under five and a half.

And I don't think that line's out there anymore.

But if I had to say, if I had to pick a number that seemed like the most likely finished, it would be six and six.

And Smith keeps his job after six and six.

Well, of course, but first of all, it's still this is year two.

They know him like thirty three million.

I mean, I have time.

I have time.

I'm sure the other the rest of the fan base has time.

Do you have thirty three million dollars?

No?

But if I did have it, I would definitely, that's how you do it.

Yeah, well then six and six, I mean, what are we doing here?

Well, then you go get a you know, a freaking left tackle and a and a and a rush end for thirty three million?

Is that you don't you don't, you know, you don't.

You don't spend it on a buyout new college football.

I'm trying to adapt here.

Yeah, you know, like I'm sorry, I have no emotions when it comes to college football.

Yeah, I'm sure he's a nice guy.

But you know, I think I think he's a good coach.

I still think he's a sure church.

Now do I think people should be inspired by Saturday's performance?

I do not.

But I still think Jonathan Smith's a good coach.

And I will tell you if that opinion changes, and there could become a point where I don't think he's the right fit or something like that.

But two games or three games in to a second year, when they're three and zero and they just played, you know, an uninspiring performance, you know, that's just not it that that's not the time.

Dominic nanxt number one made my inaugural inaugural appearance appearance at the Midnight Tavern yesterday t and Jason put out a ridiculously good spread pairs nicely with a fifty two to twenty one drubbing the NFL is ass.

Yeah, it was good to have you, though, man.

Bonus Costco wings are the groovy donuts of the poultry world elite hashtag midnight tavern uh and two.

I see that I'm only returning out of respect for Jason.

It did me dirty couch one blue sky winer gets me sanctioned.

I demand the following.

Why I choose a blue sky Karen over dominic, much like his horring Axe chose unprotected sex with strangers over him my cow welcome back down?

Did you apologize yet apologize for what?

For banning him?

I didn't ban him.

He blocked it.

I didn't block him.

Censored dominic isn't an integral part of the show.

I did not block him.

I did not ban him.

He just took a couple of weeks off.

It was good to have you, man.

I'm sorry Graham did that to you.

I guess I didn't apologize.

I guess I'll aboug I didn't do anything.

Since I didn't do anything wrong either, maybe mebe it could be worse.

MS you could have lost to the penguins.

They could have lost the Penguins.

There's no doubt that would be a bad.

Those penguins, man, I mean, that's a tough ball club over there.

It's a good nickname.

I do like penguins.

It's an ass for football.

Are you kidding me?

The penguins?

Come on?

I mean, is it worse than like the Hawaii Rainbows?

Oh well, if you're going to compare it to that, I mean, if you're going to find another terrible nickname.

But I think penguins are just Hawaii rainbows.

Makes sense.

The young Town Youngstown State Penguins, the Colorado care Bears.

I don't really know what would you know?

Yes, it's not intimidating, but penguins are a fierce, fierce bunch.

By the way, people are underestimated penguins.

Yeah, wouldn't you don't what to penguin?

Take you out?

Yeah?

Like a group of penguins, Well, a group of penguins, how many?

I bet you, dude?

I would kick those things over, don't know.

They would waddle right up to you like yeah, and you just kick it cameraman in a locker room and knock you over.

It would Uh yeah, I mean I felt all of Fred Human.

How many would it would it take to take Fred Human out of penguins?

Not many.

I mean they might he might fall on them and it would be bad for the penguins, but they would take him out.

Hopefully it's not on us.

I saw Fred Human yesterday.

Oh yeah, did all all of Fred Human?

No, he was at and I meant to say, hi, I was at you look through him.

I did not look them.

No, I waved, I waved.

He was on the other side.

I was at our editor.

We had a gathering for her for what she's retiring, and it was like a gathering and it was like people from like thirty years at the LSJAS.

Pretty good.

You saw him in his element, You saw him playing Keino.

And so he was at the bar watching the lions bears.

Also not there to say, I thought he knew her or something, because you know they've been in there.

Lorenzo, how do you not send me like a picture?

I mean, come on, that is Fred Human in the wild doing what he normally does.

Was Fred had a Kino screen Fred and the Wild?

Yeah?

Absolutely, Mickey Patterson and Troy Hunter.

Next do you think Jonathan Smith would be interested in the UCLA job, and from Mickey If so, would he leave a mid season and who would be a good new fit?

Oh wait, okay, I don't know haven that bonus?

Could they ever talk D'Antonio or saving back?

Lol?

Yeah, you don't want guys in their late sixties seventies taking over at this point?

Okay, to this, to this question, because there were others who've asked this as well.

I do not, like, I don't know what's in Jonathan Smith's head, and so I'm not going to say for sure I know.

That job's for mel Tucker.

What are we talking about?

Why would Jonathan Smith want that?

Correct?

I am, I would be very surprised.

Like just I understand he grew up near UCLA.

I mean, and he grew up near you know, on the West coast, you know, from the West coast, But the UCLA job does not seem like one that would interest him in any degree.

Number One, you're uplifting everything.

You're just starting at Michigan State.

You're two years in.

You see how hard it is.

You'd have to do that again at UCLA.

So it have to be like this is the move I want to do forever number two.

They don't have a fan base.

They just don't.

They don't in football, it's been thirty years since they've been drawing big regularly.

And in LA they have so much else to do.

It's in basketball they don't have a fan base.

They are a fake blue blood.

They are a john Wood and blue blood, but they it's so easy to get tickets to poly Pavilion.

This is not a place that really belongs in major college athletics.

It's in LA, which I'm not like he grew up there.

But part of the reason he liked Michigan State was it was a town where life was easy.

He lives twelve minutes from work, his family.

It's easy on family life, it's easier for his coaches.

It's all that stuff.

It's a place where you can have that.

The UCLA job is not a good one.

Beyond the lack of fan base, they are in huge financial trouble and so it's not just nil, it's whether you can actually compete for resources elsewhere and all that sort of stuff.

I don't know that the ad who was previously at Michigan State, although there's no connection with Jonathan Smith, no overlap, I don't know whether he's going to be allowed to make the next higher because he just made the last tire.

We'll see how long's he's around it.

It just not a good job.

And you know, for some reason, there's this this obsession with like, okay, so it's close to somebody's home, so they want the job.

I never heard Nick Saban's name floated for the West Virginia job when it came open.

You know, like not everybody.

He never he didn't care about his face.

Yeah, nobody wants not everybody's thinking I gotta go home.

Now.

I get that he's a West Coast guy.

I'm sure there has been some culture shock in that sense for him and his family.

His you know, his kids are integrating the schools here.

You got to think about that and all that there is.

I've gotten zero inkling that he would be interested in uprooting.

And so again that's me getting zero inkling.

I don't know what's going on in his head.

I never say I'm one hundred percent surprised by anything in the sport.

If like, I would be surprised if he went, but I would I would be very surprised by this offer.

Yeah, this had eighty three fans watching get a blowout against the Lobos there ask.

They're just in financial mess.

It's not a good job.

It'd be a restart.

He doesn't have the person I know, we get mad because we rip on his personnel.

He doesn't have one.

You don't have that kind of personnel.

You have to be like vintage Pete Carroll to go into that place and you turn things around, right Chip, Chip Kelly ran like hell from this job, you know, and like, so it is not I'm just I mean, I'll he.

Ran, but you know, yeah, he waddled.

I would be.

Very interested to see who they get.

And I think it's it's a place for a young coach with a big personality who has been a head coach somewhere else, because that was part of the problem with Sean Foster is he wasn't ready for that gig and and he wasn't.

It just that's a really hard job.

It's an incredibly hard job right now.

You need great patience, like Jonathan Smith in Michigan State.

You need like a seven year contract you do.

You don't walk into that without knowing you're gonna get time or you're gonna get get broke off.

After you get fired, right right, that's a that's a And then you're also living in LA So a fifty million dollar contract really only like a thirty million dollar contracts the suspensive as hell to live there.

It's get the school to pay for that.

And that's as soon as you get fired, you leave.

Yeah, there there are If Jonathan Smith at some point decides this isn't a fit at Michigan State or Michigan State and him decide this isn't a fit, there will be other places that I think could come open at some point that would be more enticing to him.

I do not see U c l A is one of them.

I just I just doesn't.

It's just a bad Why are you answering this like it's a serious like well, because a lot of people brought it up, you know, fire in edition take.

It's not just these two, I would a lot of people are curious because it's an easy thing to look at.

Yeah he's from there, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, and you know, even like you know, I mean if they offered him some crazy amount of money, I mean yeah, even huge is talking about that today, and so people are responding to that.

A huge one is talking about that I'm doing his show later this afternoon.

I'll try and talk him down off this one.

He's pushing the fair est state coach on Michigan State is the next higher like a tire.

He done, Bulky, bar takamis next for MSU.

This wasn't a dominant or even adequate defensive performance against an FCS opponent, but fans must realize that the focus was maintaining the edges and preventing the quarterback from running.

An aggressive pass rush was not in the plan, so no need to overreact.

Yet, Well too late, Bulky, Yeah, the problem is they haven't had a pass rush in a while.

It'd be one thing if this was like they had had a pass rush and then all of a sudden they weren't doing it facts right against Young and then they had bad run fits in some key moments and that's why they wound up giving up some big gains.

There were a lot of things to be concerned about with the defense.

You can't look if Michigan State was about to play a season in the Missouri Valley Conference, I'd say this was a promising game that they're going to be in the playoffs and they've got a chance to win an FCS title.

Unfortunately, that's that's not the standard.

Money Bag.

I don't want to hear about how expensive elite pass rushers are in the portal.

I never asked for an elite for am you?

The average MAC teams pass rush would have showed more of a plus against an FCS team than ours did.

By the way, I apologize for saying that's the standard, like I'm some football coach.

The standards of the standard.

They played to the standard.

Fuck.

Sorry, I try not to do Thatt' fix it and post that's awful.

Yeah, and that's you're You're right in this sense, money bag.

Like the idea that like Western Michigan had a defensive lineman who was better than more effective at least than anybody we've seen from Michigan State.

And those guys are out there and you know m portal.

Right, that's the question.

How do you get these guys and and how do you do it ethically?

What some of these guys aren't ethics?

Get out of here.

Yeah, I mean, sometimes these guys have to be in the portal and then it's it's tough to get him, but you gotta this is going to have to be.

Let's cheat.

Well, this is going to have to be a real, real point of emphasis going forward, and it should have been already.

And and I think they thought they brought in a number of defensive ends.

It's not like they didn't bring in guys.

We just haven't seen it work yet.

And and it's not just about the defensive ends.

There are other points to in terms of getting to the quarterback and other ways to do it, and we just haven't seen it enough.

Bibbi.

Next, Boston College loss at Stanford is more demoralizing for MSU season than the performance on Saturday versus Youngstown State.

It's not great, but I think if you watch that game and if you know, like again, it's one of those things.

And this is why the AP poll is so jacked up, and people don't know.

National writers never know things, and you look at a score and you think, like I was following a couple of Boston College writers on social media and following that game, and there's like, I mean, you know, picture losing Nick marsh and Aiden Chiles, not Naiden Childs because they had their quarterback and they did quit on that game.

They did quit.

But again, I would say this the team that played at Michigan State.

That Boston college team would have beaten Stanford handily.

That team didn't show up.

And that's college kids, and that's not great either.

I'm just saying it's not It wasn't the same situation.

Our boy Graham Deets, Yeah, he was tweeting like an mfor Yeah, he started following him, and I'm like, man, this kid doesn't quit.

He's got a good adderall Matt boone number one.

As much as the game was not fun, if MSU just didn't have injuries, we would feel okay about the team and to the USC game will not show us how much on how the team will do the rest of the season with time and who we won't probably have for the game.

Feels like it will be BC game like last year with injuries.

Yeah, I mean, one of the things it's I would ask people to do is if whatever happens at USC, if that's your take, hold that take.

If they beat in Nebrasket, that's got to maintain your Oh my god, I gotta hold it for a week.

No, I'm just put it.

I'm not holding Oh, make your take, But then that's got to maintain.

That's got to keep being your take.

In other words, things could still change several times over this season, so so.

I can't change my take.

When you're formulating a take, make it present tense, but not like has to be.

What is God?

It's so bad it fix out of posts.

I don't know why'm telling people to shit.

I suck at this teaching a Twitter class, dude, I'm awful.

I just people love being told how to do.

This was the If this is the first three minutes of the show, I would start it over.

I would, because that's that's just not that.

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Next number one, there isn't one future NFL player on MSU's defense, and two, there isn't a single future Hall of Famer on the Lions defense.

What Brian Branch bro Whear's jersey?

You think I'm gonna buy a jersey of a guy that's not making the Hall of Fame when we win a Super Bowl and bonus, you want it hot and tight takes?

Those are Carmen Electro Stock.

There you go, that's what we asked for.

Hot and stupid.

I mean, there's no future Hall of Famer on the Lions d Brian Branch.

Brian Branch was injured.

Now he would not be a Hall of Famer, but yeah, he has a chance.

Why do you have to talk that way?

Sorry, why do you even have to speak that into I'm sorry, I'm sorry for putting that.

He's ridiculous.

And I would say even for MSU, you just don't know.

They're enough young guys.

What George Hall will be?

You don't.

I mean there sometimes like uh what hold on coming?

Yeah, give me one second.

Uh okay, Like Ben Van Summerson Van Summer playing for the Eagles BVS.

Yeah right, BVS as we call, Like I didn't think he was a pro when he was at Michigan State.

Like that.

There will be guys I think on that that that in that secondary, or in that on in the linebacker room or on the interior defensive line, that play in the NFL.

But when you say there aren't is in a pro I know what you mean by like first two, three, three round pick right guy who's like clearly an NFL dude, And and right now there isn't that guy.

And that's why the defense looks like it.

You've got to have difference makers there and they haven't shown to have it.

Yet in Sparda.

We trust.

Next for this MSU team to have a prayer against USC, Childs will need to have a career day and hope to win in a shootout.

It would be a child's epic perform and you know he I think he's more capable of it.

Obviously he was a year ago, and I think people trust that he's more capable of having a big day.

He's still a player that you know, he's still a college quarterback though, and he still needs to be protected.

He still needs weapons to do their thing.

I think Jack Velling having the game he did, finally being healthy, having a game that I didn't know he was going to have all year, Like he didn't you know, Elling Velling had a couple of six catch games last year, But I never thought he was the player that he was sort of touted to be.

He looked like that player and again FCS opponent.

But he looked quick, he looked like a guy who was in the places where childs need him to be.

And I think that was a really good development for them to have a prairie right though.

It's going to take the offense.

But this is what we thought about Michigan States.

We thought the defense might be better than this, but we thought the passing game and again, Nick marsh has to be healthy, has a chance to be a difference maker, the sort of difference they haven't had.

That sort of gives them a chance to play up a little bit.

And we'll see.

Alex Mayer next.

If Michigan State can effectively on the ball and shorten the game, they have a chance this week.

The travel is killer though the.

Leve on Thursday.

I think they're going to see the Pacific Ocean when they get right in, is what Jonathan said.

A lot of the guys I've never seen it, so that right on the ocean, man, Yeah, wine's go see the Pacific.

I like it's it's one of the best oceans.

It's one of the best.

They're tough.

Top five ocean, top five ocean.

Over there.

Hey, you look at that ocean right there, that's a top five ocean.

That's a intimidating ocean.

It's a good ocean.

Yeah, and you know you want to assure you you want to make sure your quarterback can throw the ball in the ocean.

The uh Yeah.

The running game last week was also a concern, and and and losing Mackay Fraser.

I don't think is big a problem in the running game, because I do think Brandon Tullis is a pretty good running back.

What he is and what he has shown so far as is not to be great in pass protection.

And that's a concern that Fraser was their most complete back, I think.

And my guess is he does not play this week.

Ralph e Up next Evelyn's guest Bob Trippy said MSU hasn't won a regular season away game to a West Coast Pacific Time team since nineteen fifty seven, and I did not fact checked him, fact check him.

Yeah.

Yeah, those guys are better than AI.

I mean, I would trust them as well.

You don't need to look it up.

Ebling's people know because they were around in fifty seven, so they remember it.

They were there, they were at the game.

Press pass.

Yeah, they have not won a regular season game like they've obviously won Bowl games and things, but you know, even recently, you just think the Oregon games, the you know, the game at Washington, games at Arizona that are Arizona State rather have not gone well and they have not played there a ton, but it is also not gone not gone great.

So what we're saying is hammer USC.

Well, they also those teams weren't in a conference before.

Now at some point Michigan State will win one of these games out West because they're just gonna play one of these guys.

Every year.

It's gonna be Ucla or it's going to be you know, somebody is gonna have a down year.

Like if they played Ucla on the road this year, they would get that win.

Right.

It's skeleton based, Yeah, right, Jebediah.

Four and eight is back on the table for MSU boys.

But seriously, stop scheduling FCS teams.

They just make everyone feel worse and we get like ten season ending injuries every time.

And from Jeff Peterson, MSU looks more like a four and eight team than these six and sixteen.

Well, four and eight requires you lose to UCLA or Maryland at the end of the year.

And but looks like four and eight to say, like they don't.

Look, here's why that's wrong in my book, And just even in terms of appearance, take the schedule out of it, there aren't gonna be many four and eight teams that have a quarterback and receiver combos like this is.

That's not a team that goes four and eight most of the time, right because you're gonna beat they have the ability to upset people.

Michigan State has what mid majors have to have to pull up sets.

And so one of the reasons that I think what happened with Youngstown on State was a little surprising.

It's usually a team like that to really be in the game and threaten a team and cause damage has to have a quarterback can sling it in, a wide out who's a pro, or a white out who.

Can hurt you.

And they didn't really have that, and yet they still slung it and they still hurt Michigan State from time to time.

And that's not the way it's supposed to go.

But so when you're playing up in Michigan State will sort of play teams that may be more seasoned or have more strengths than they do.

You have to have those guys that give you a chance to because then people start worrying about marsh and Omaric Kelly and it ecomes easier to run the ball.

And maybe they'll be able to still run the ball this season.

They did well in the first two weeks.

We'll see.

So I still think this is a team that again, this is why I would pick six and six.

I think they'll beat Maryland if you had to think about it now, They'll beat Maryland at Ford Field, They'll beat UCLA.

And I just think there's another game in there somewhere where the guys they have, be it Nebraska, be it maybe even Indiana, who hadn't played anybody.

Indiana's quarterback looks good, they look really good.

But again they're not playing anybody.

It's embarrassing who Indiana's played.

So I think there's another win.

Bob tweets next best take.

Michigan State is a five and six win team right now.

And just like Vegas predicted and baked, take Lions beat the Ravens and bet the over.

I don't think that's baked.

That could happen.

I think the Lions and Ravens are even teams, and you don't the defense.

Yeah, I just I'm worried about Lamar as all everybodys think our defense, our linebackers and pass rushes and't on the same as the Ravens d I'm sorry, I hope I'm wrong.

I'm just trying to be real.

Yeah, you want to face Lamar in the playoffs in postseason, that's when things usually tend to although it hasn't been his fault, sometimes something else has gone wrong, and you could say the same for Jared Goff.

Frankly, you want to face him in the playoffs.

Todd Trucedel.

Next, MSU's defense is so bad they have to play zone inside the ten yard line against an FCS team.

Pathetic.

I can't see six wins.

It's amazing how bad the vibes flipped.

It was.

Yeah, I was noticing that on Twitter too.

It will suppressed yea, mz A.

MSU is at serious, serious risk of losing by forty plus next weekend against USC Did I read this?

Alre any defense is atrocious sounded like, oh shit, yep, keep them coming, keep going, all right, David Jackson, I know everyone's take is that we're going to get massacred in Los Angeles.

But I don't see that elite special team play and explosive passing means Michigan State will stay in the game.

So that's I think this is a reasonable take here from David.

I mean, that's the thing again, Marsha's health is part of that.

But if you've got a decent return game and it sucks for Alante Brown that he's he's out, but you know, amar Kelly showed what they can do in punt they haven't.

You know, they're dangerous and punt returns.

They've got an amazing punter.

Their field goal kicker is four for four this year.

So special teams, you have a chance.

Offense, I think you have a chance if the right guys are healthy to be a team that casts and some problems.

And the question is whether your defense can hold up and be resilient and be timely.

Can you get a turnover somewhere?

This is one of those games where you've got to find a way to a couple turnovers.

You got to win that turnover battle, I think, and the defense has to has to come up with them, and maybe that's in them.

But this this this game, in the Nebraska game, will be really really telling again different opponents, but like, what does this defense have to them?

Is this going to be a problem where they're getting steamrolled and there's just this is this is a really rough season coming out along or do they have the ability to you know, put together a couple possessions here and there where they get off the field quickly and that, and so even though they have some weaknesses, it's not quite that bad.

Austin Wolf.

The MSU line is plus fifteen and a half at USC on FanDuel.

What's the percent chance to cover and chance to win?

Yeah, I've seen up to like seventeen and a half.

Now is that right?

Seventeen and a half?

Yeah, I mean I don't know what it'll get to.

So what's that money line plus three ten or something?

Or the problem is it's the Nick Marsh thing.

What I would do is I would not if you want to bet Michigan State, I would hold off on this till you know Marsh is playing.

If he's not, I won't touch it.

I just want because because you could see this being a twenty one point game or worse, or something gets that unravels on them.

If they're a little more healthy offensively, you know, I can also see this being a fairly competitive game.

They just beat Perdue by sixteen on there.

Now that was on the road.

I think Michigan State's better than Purdue, and I would just wait to see that because if you get this thing above seventeen and you've got Nick marsh playing, I don't think that's the worst line in the world for Michigan State.

Dan grayf as bad as some of the quarterbacks are in college this year, it's possible Childs can play himself into a first round pick this coming draft.

It'll be interesting to see if he keeps us up.

If he does, you know, say, really good next couple games and they get to the midpoint.

He's playing well on the road a couple places, and he obviously has a lot of athletic tools to him, and he's keeping his head up and he's making mostly good throws and not turning them ball over like what the NFL starts to think of him, and that'll be something to start looking at.

I it's not just you know about the other quarterback sucking.

The NFL is always obviously going to take one or two in the first round because they always do.

Even if guys aren't great, but they don't.

They don't dip that far down just because there aren't other guys.

Yeah, is Indiana's quarterback right now getting played?

Nobody looks better?

What is he's as an NFL prospect?

They're two different things too, right.

It's it's like who is somebody is a college quarterback?

And what are they as a pro prospect?

And those are different things.

I just think it's really early on Child's But I don't think it's impossible because he does have an NFL arm.

He has some gifts of his legs that are are hard to hard to teach.

All right, I can't teach.

Big John Hogg.

Next number one, Maybe the Packers are good group.

Since Couch is an MSU fan, Who do you dislike more?

Michigan or green Bay?

There is a correct answer to this, by the way, and too Jonathan Smith to UCLA mentions are bad for everyone fluting Ucla.

He doesn't fit their profile and needs more time here.

And three, fuck the Bears?

Who do you dislike the Bears?

Michigan or green Bay?

Oh Man, green Bay fans are nice, They're just kind of dumb.

They just cheer for whatever, like the fourth down oh yeah, all right, guys could try.

Well, they own the team, they feel like there's some ownership.

Yeah, we've heard that, Michigan fans.

I've been there in my life.

I'm like, my best friend is a Michigan fan, so I you know, I like him.

Obviously.

There's the euper Green Bay fans that really pissed me off, just because they're the up.

They think they have to root for green.

But not the fan base.

Who do you hate more?

Like this is a team when you're watching it, I give you more of a visceral react.

I'm sorry I was taking that as the fan base.

Yeah, I hate Green Bay because the Lions mean so much to me, and you know, the Michigan Michigan State thing.

I just dead inside on that.

So fuck yeah Green Bay.

Sorry, uh neurotic pants number one.

There is no transitive property, but other teams will study poor play on the line of scrimmage and in the secondary based on this Saturday and to Youngstown.

State lost no one to the portal and looked better prepared than MSU for much of the game.

Size isn't everything and three without childs MSU loses.

Well, that's that's fair.

Yeah, yeah, I mean that you roll with Alissimo.

Yeah, withoutout a lot of starting quarterbacks, a lot of teams, a lot of teams lose that.

He didn't get a rep.

Did he did he get any reps?

Well, that was one of the I mean, there were a number of things that went poorly from Michigan State, I thought.

And they played a lot of guys defensively, so it's not like guys didn't get in who might have otherwise, and that might have been part of the issue.

But I thought one of the real misses here was a chance for Olsio to get reps right.

And if you've got a game, if you've got a game where you've put it away mid third quarter and the whole fourth quarter, at least is the backup quarterback, and even if you're not throwing a lot in those possessions, he gets able to throw a couple of passes and get his feet wet and see some completions.

You just never know when you're gonna need that guy, and this was a real missed opportunity.

The next time you're gonna need him is going to be a competitive game.

Now, maybe they'll be down by so much in a game that he gets reps at some point, but like that was your chance to be up in a game where there were low leverage snaps for a quarterback you want to give some confidence to on a game day, and and they blew it.

Sunshine Spartan next number one the pants Aiden Childs and a couple other players are wearing their complete ass Why are they wearing biker shorts and too it felt great beating that smarmye Ben Johnson when they asked if Lions were running up the score priceless, So it is weird.

The football players were like, even running backs like, don't have knee pads on it anymore.

I understand ever since, like Ed McCaffrey, they always thought they got slowed down by knee pads.

I if I were running a insurance company that dealt with medical players for college athletes or NFL play like, I would tell you flat out, you want to be covered on a knee injury, you wear knee pads, we are not or not Caffrey did break his leg.

There you go, we are not covering your knee injuries as an insurance company unless you wear a knee pad on a football field.

That is effin insane.

You know, It's like, I just don't I don't get how much does it really slow you down?

And if everybody's wearing knee pads, then you're no slower than the next guy.

Everybody put a knee pad on, or you're you pay for out of pocket, you know, for your own for your own knee injury.

That would be my U that would be my.

Best way to solve it.

Yeah, there you go, Rich else next a childs will contend for all conference honors and bonus.

Dana White and Netflix will prove good for boxing, especially if they start big fights before one am.

But Netflix has got to improve the picture quality and baked the couch.

Weird ass, weird ass musk.

Equivalent baby names would be I don't even know how to say it, dash thirty dash yeah, and deadline and donut Yeah.

So the equivalent, that's right, he's got.

So if I put like at the end of a story, you can put like dash thirty dash it means the end you're done finished thin or if so if I named if I named a kid, yeah, Finn's not a horrible name.

But if I named a kid dash thirty dash, deadliner, don't it that would be like what Elon mus.

Finn isn't a terrible dame, Marmaduke.

Finn is out a bad name.

I played soccer with a guy named Finn.

Oh good guy, all right, go turn the corner.

Yeah, I like Finn.

There you go.

Bet John Johnson number one.

What would you set the odds at that?

Nick Marsh transfers after this year?

If MSU makes a Bowl game, it'll be the minimum by the minimum six games?

In my opinion, is he really going to stick around another year where winning versus another low end power for Team Boston College is the highlight of the season, and to take the live under on MSU if it got bumped up a couple of game games Now that they're three and zero, there's no way this team wins seven games.

Thank god, more enforcements around the way.

Oh wait, never mind, it's just a bunch of low end three stars.

Maybe they'll get another trance for from Hillsdale three.

Does Jonathan Smith have a buyout if he were to leave mid contract?

And if he does, would MSU be willing to waive it if he wanted to leave?

John Johnson not optimistic and it will put him the not optimistic category.

It's a lot less now that Alan Haller left.

Part of his deal was the buyout was was contingent on Haller still being the ad so he could get out of things relatively and expensively if he wanted to man a lot of anti Jonathan Smith stuff here the yeah with Nick marsh again, I don't know what's in his head.

I doubt right now he's you know, even thought of that.

He is a different kind of cat though, I think.

And he's got one more year before the NFL after this year.

So if Michigan State has a four and seven or a four and eight five and seven year and he doesn't and childs were to leave and he wanted to play in like the biggest games, you know, I can't tell you it couldn't happen.

I also think that some guys realize they want a place to come back to and to be you know, I mean key On Coleman for example, still views Emma and Kean Coleman has a weird relationship with MSU fans because ms fans still sort of welcome him and love him, and and everything went so badly for Michigan State after him, but.

He did leave at the right time.

He did and I just I would be I would be a little surprised if that happened with Nick Marsh, just based on everything he's said, everything his mother's said, Like again, could have happened?

Could he want something else?

I don't know that money though, will be the issue, because I think Michigan State will be able to do pretty well by him, you know, because they have obviously revenue sharing, and that Nick Marsh will not be somebody they go cheap on.

And then if he's got a quarterback in your year away from the NFL and you know the system and you know you're gonna be featured again.

It's not that Nick Marsh couldn't find his way somewhere else.

I just think I would be a little surprised if it happened.

Spartan Dog ninety seven.

Alan Haller has doomed this MSU football program to mediocrity, and are only hope is that UCLA falls for the same bullshit Haller did and bails us out with his bad decision.

Again, not a Jonathan Smith fan at this point.

Again, the yeah, you think it's the personality that or is it a lot of Youngstown State game?

Well, I think it's people are I think it's it's a lot of things wanted.

Not calling a time out in the first half.

It's also just it stems from what happened at the end of the Mel Tucker era.

They had the one season the end of Dantonin.

It's just been a long time since MSU has looked like a legitimate force, and people are tired of it and they don't see it right now.

They don't see the potential for it with Smith, and Smith's a developmental coach.

Took him minute at Oregon State, and people don't have people don't have that time to give right now, and so that's where where it is.

I do think he's not the most inspiring communicator, and so that also is is there.

I think he's a good and I think it's because of the current way college football is.

If this were maybe fifteen years ago Jonathan Smith, definitely it would get the time he would need, but unfortunately it's college football is all different.

Well, I think it just was he was a coach that was really good at building that way, and they may be now too, because again, this is going to be evaluating a year after year, like let's look at next year's rosters across the sport when everybody's got about fifteen to sixteen million to spend, and it's the decisions you make and then some teams.

We'll see what it looks like as teams go over that and what Michigan State does.

Are they playing too much by the book?

Are are other teams limited a little bit more?

And what those decisions are and who they're able to bring in.

I just, I mean, it's just too quick.

It sucks that the Meltucker era ended like it did and went like it did.

But that's not on Jonathan Smith, right he took over a program that just wasn't It was in a shit way.

And you know, obviously they don't look great against Youngstown State, but it's they're three and zero going into the Big Ten season having one exhilarating win.

I man, it just it seems like this is a little negative Ken Chew.

Next, when they build the skywalk connecting the east and west upper decks of Spartan Stadium, nobody will remember that this was Alan Haller's idea.

Alan Haller could have cured cancer, and people be down on him right now.

You know, Haller, I actually think overall will age well as an ad if Jonathan Smith pans out a lot of it.

You know, I think you know Nightingale obviously home run get and people can say, well, that was sort of handed to him, but he made the higher fraylik, I think it was a good higher.

I think he did a good job in a number of fronts.

But ultimately, and he knew this, he and I talked about this.

He knew he would be judged by the football cochire.

That's who you are.

And so Jonathan Smith does not pan out of Michigan State, that'll be on Haller and that'll ultimately be more of his lasting legacy.

The hockey thing helps, So it does because that program's been so resurrected to such a degree.

MCV next number one, College football needs a preseason consisting of one to three games of the FCS opponents only, and teams can only schedule D one in the regular season.

And bonus, there will be more college football head coaches fired this year than any season in recent memory.

You know what, It'll depend on the buyouts.

It costs a lot.

It's already was two yeah, yeah at Tech, U C l A.

And it's weird when it happens early too.

Like I think if you fire a coach in September and and and the Michigan State thing with Meltucker was different, right because that was a off the field situation that led to that.

It was it was misconduct.

But if you fire a coach for performance in September, and if you put in a whole offseason, whole song, and you like, if you're the coach, the ad you hired them, and you're still there, you gotta go, you gotta go.

And because it's weird, you wait all year for this, you get three weeks.

Now you wait until next year again to start over, like you got to go.

And now I know UCLA was in a tough spot of the timing of the hire and and all that stuff, but man, it's that is that is just not not good.

I think a lot of it will depend And look, I think it's more fair to the players to do it early in this sense, they haven't played four games yet.

Any kid who wants to walk away from that that has their red shirt season left, doesn't burn a year like, they can stay in school and finish the semester.

They can transfer somewhere.

Now they won't be able to play this year, but like that.

In some ways, getting a coach fired before four games is the most fair thing you can do to the players.

In other ways it sucks because you're just punting on a season.

But I don't know that UCLA or Virginia Tech we're going anywhere this year anyway.

David Okay, sorry, David Parks, lukewarm take.

MSU defense might give up five hundred yards of offense this week at USC.

Hashtag bet Accordingly.

I haven't looked at what the over is yet for team total over.

I don't know if that's out yet.

It'll be interest because mshu's defense is going to hear this.

What do they come up with this week?

What they know?

They're they're up against it, and people doubt them.

I'm very curious to see what it looks like.

Daniel R.

Patterson next another baller game for Childs gained three hundred forty six yards three and oho.

MSU must improve d big Lee to compete at USC.

Injuries to marsh running back Frasier an offensive line may slow the offense.

Next man up our MSU night games fans, louder I say yes, watch for a noticeable turnout of Western Spartans at the coliseum.

Take MSU plus thirteen and the over apparently.

Yeah, Tonny, you get better and plus thirteen you find thirteen somewhere.

That's all he needs.

You take USC and then you take Michigan State plus seventeen and a half and you try and hit that middles but you.

Do that alternate line plus thirteen though paid.

Yeah, I do think it'll be a good showing for Michigan State.

I do you think you'll you'll hear this fans, because I think people, you know, you can say, well, it wasn't a great week, but people are planning to go where the ticket's already booked.

People who live out there.

This is an event they're going, and so I think it'll be a good I think it'll be a good showing.

Brian Schmack of Southern Maine next best.

The easiest money this weekend was bitch Tits Pog covering he had one shot to audition for his next head coaching gig and he was going to smother the chips in his moves.

And bonus, I set an alarm this morning so I could put both of the dollars in my DraftKings account on USC to cover were cooked both dollars.

Yeah, congrants on the four dollars.

Yeah, it'd be four bucks AEAF the Yeah, Michigan was Do you think Michigan if Sharon Moore is the coach and they're not feeling slighted and whatever and they don't have an introm coach, do you think Michigan drills Central to the degree they did?

Yeah, because Central didn't even show up to do anything.

I mean, you have to just I mean, why would you not blow their ass out by sixty yet?

I don't care who's doing what.

It's just empathetic.

I think that's the frustration Michigan State fans had to But the part of the reason that happened is because I mean, yeah, Central doesn't have playmakers down the field that can hurt you, and it's hard for those teams to have that anymore given the revenue sharing and the transfer portal.

But neither did Young Sound State.

Like that's what people want in Michigan State to look like against Young Sounds State, and that's what it's supposed to look like when physically you're the superior team.

Rich seering number one pass rush is non existent and will kill this team dbs could average could be average with a little help from pressure on the quarterback.

And two, Raymold can't pass block against defenders with an ounce of athleticism, and Tullus doesn't block a soul.

And three Nick marsh is essential for even having a chance to win against USC.

The offensive line is going to get interesting.

You know.

They've got a couple of injuries.

They had a couple of guys going off the field, and I think that are okay, that weren't really brought up, you know, but again, this was supposed to be depth and depth is a big part of developing a program.

That the idea this year for Michigan State.

What injuries are going to happen?

Like nothing that's happened to Michigan State, and yet is like out of the ordinary ear isn't happening anywhere else.

Boston College is lost half their top dudes, guys they can't replace, Like this is the way it goes.

This is football.

This is why I don't play guys till Week eleven in the NFL.

As I always say whatever, but the I do think, like, if your depth is real, if your program is healthy, if your program is on, like that's the Test in November.

That's the test of the season goes along.

How much do you drop off as guys get hurt?

You see it even in the NFL level, and it's harder to have depth there with a fifty three man roster.

I mean, injuries do matter.

Some things aren't excuse some things are a reason.

Right.

Look at the Vikings Falcons game.

The Falcons lose an all Pro defensive back on one possession right before the half, and on the next possession his replacement gives up like this sixty yard pass play, you know, to Justin Jefferson.

Right, So, like stuff does matter.

Levels of play matter, but you got to have depth overall to a stand it.

And we're gonna find out.

Chap next number one, Jonathan Smith is the chips and salsa at a Mexican restaurant.

No one goes there for the chips and salsa.

Everyone likes chips and salsa, but is there for something else and would be disappointed if the whole meal is chips and salsa.

I don't know if that's that's pretty good?

Yeah?

I like that one, all right.

Two great tale Gate in East Lancing on Saturday.

Came into town from Pittsburgh with my son and saw the MSU in Lions Games Stadium.

Experience was pretty good, but they played DJ music at the exact same time the cheerleaders are trying to get the MSU chant going poorly coordinated and bonus last week, after close to a decade of loyal listening, my question was the first one asked in the show.

It was one of the best days of my life.

Better than my first wedding for sure, but not as good as my second.

It's usual the way it is when one wedding doesn't pan out.

Yeah, Wow, we didn't have dominating.

There's like four other people.

Yeah, didn't write in, so we figured you were.

It was your turn ship.

We appreciate you.

It was a good question and that's why.

That's why it led.

And yeah, no.

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By the way, we haven't really had a story we're telling yet because I don't know you and I just don't have stories today or something I don't know.

Here, here's a story you have, Monica Andrew Dominic.

You t in a room watching watching the Lion yesterday.

What was that like, Give me a story, Give you a story.

It was I've never smoked that much weed in one day.

I was constantly just chained smoking joints.

There really wasn't a story.

Dominic did show up after the second half.

He is a Bears fan.

It was fun giving the Bears fans a little bit of shit.

My wife was a diehard unless it's against her fantasy team.

She had Jake Bates, so she was rooting for Jake Bates, but was a bit She's a Bears fan, so it was kind of giving her shit about that.

She loves her fantasy team more than she does the Bears.

But honestly, there was no real you know stories, man, We all just relaxed, had a good time, had some laughs and watch some good football.

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Skyler Verden hot take mid game interviews with an unrelated celebrity person is the worst thing ever invented.

Completely detracts from the game, especially when they interview during the action.

You just don't get a lot of you could say, all of the interviews, like the pregame where they talk to the quarter about or the coach interview in between quarters, or people are bad at asking questions too, like it's not yeah, but there's the answers to like I give, you know, sideline reporters shit.

But I mean, really, you're not going to get any You're just doing your job.

You're trying to get something right.

And a lot of celebrities aren't that interesting and aren't that good at if some are you know, if you get like if you were to get a McConaughey or Jack Black or somebody on the sidelines, You've probably got a good I don't know.

I'm just making them names here.

You probably get something good, right, And like we know that even like people, you want more athletes.

The Kenneth Walker experience that we had.

Here's a story we're telling, presented by Midtown Brewing.

Here we go, remember the Kenneth Walker.

This is early in il days and somebody at Kenneth Walker's reps when he was at MSU reached out and see if we wanted him on the show.

All right, yeah, I mean I I this show, this show.

Oh yeah, think I told you this, Kenneth Walker.

Look, I've talked to Kenneth Walker many times.

He's not the greatest interview in the world.

It's not that interesting.

Yeah, but who's interviewing him?

Though?

Maybe if you just talked to him about some random stuff and staid of I'm like, oh, yeah, fair enough.

Nine when you rush the ball against Michigan, you know what I mean.

Yeah, I didn't say no.

I said yeah, we'd love to have him.

They well, have your people reach out to our people and we'll we'll figure out how.

It was a negotiation.

It was a price they wanted us to pay for it.

Oh and people do that.

Look, there's paid media, there are there are a lot when a lot of times you see interviews on TV or radios that nobody else is getting there paying for him, and radio stations do it sometime.

And look, I'm not going to begrudge that.

And in the journalism world, it's not something we do.

You're not supposed to do it, and it's not something because of my affiliation from the LSJA, we would ever do here.

But I had to write back, and I didn't mean to be mean, but I was.

I just told him, I said, have you ever listened to your client interview?

No?

I just said I say that, yeah.

I said, look like we would love to have him on, but man, that's not an interview.

A lot of people are gonna pay for.

How much did they want?

I don't know.

We never got to that point.

I just said, we're not paying for We're not gonna pay for We're not gonna pay for a shit interview.

I understand that we can do interviews for free every week.

I know that.

I'm just curious.

I would be curious to see what the chart, you know, five hundred or something like, I don't know, a thousand.

It's probably it's probably gone up back then it was early and I out, so I don't even I don't even know what it was.

That is a story almost we're telling, actually probably we're telling presented by our friends at Midtown Brewing Company in downtown Lansing.

Nate best.

Firing a coach this early end of the season is the next best thing to canceling, a real fuck you to the entire program.

If I were UCLA or Virginia Tech, I'd fire some players as well.

And baked flannel themed jerseys are awesome.

Here you go Muscock's flannel.

Let's even get a jersey and flannel.

Oh yeah, they could do that.

Yeah, minor league team or something baseball jersey if some of the shit college football teams where you could do it the college football true.

I just figured, you know, yeah, minor league baseball does that.

Yeah kind of shit.

Yeah, he gets some of these these programs on the phone, joscocks dot com.

Yeah, and you know you get the whole team fifteen dollars off a flannel for go muscos dot com.

There you go, Max.

I know that they are separate issues based on the way MSU funds their athletic department, but it may become hard to justify increased athletic spending while the general budget is being cut by six percent and people are losing their job.

Well, see, this is ultimately the question, right.

It's like when somebody comes in, as you know, should Magic do an il and I'm like, no, because the lanting promise should be his priority.

What is the priority in life?

What does sports actually matter?

I feel this way about Pablo tore sometimes.

Pablo Torre is like the foremost authority right now in investigative sports journalism, and he's just bringing down Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers hour after hour, day after day.

And I keep thinking to myself, there's a lot more important ship than Kawhi Leonard's contract in this world.

And Pablo's really good, like we ought to have him somewhere else.

But then again, I also like what he's doing with this.

It's fun to read, Like Karin, He's I see some of his stories, like why is he covering this?

He's better than well, it's fair we want him in Lancing.

We're not trying to understand, I know, I'm just saying that's uh yeah, that's uh mam Ma Karini by the way, guy looks good in a Muskock's flannel.

He looks better.

Does he ever wear one?

Oh yeah, he wears the same white shirt every time I see him.

Well, no, yeah, like a suggicition.

Maybe in the summer, but yeah, he's a he's a muskot flannel.

Jordan Villa Reale.

Next, Jonathan Smith has started running out with the team this year.

He's caught the bug.

That man is a spartan and bonus, having some pressure on the QB was cool.

But Rossi is on the hot seat.

Our d needs to show some proof of life.

Yeah, I think Joe Rossi's a good coordinator.

They it's not.

It's not working real well.

Early last year, does Smith seem like a kind of guy?

Let's say this goes haywire against the USC bye week, Nebraska defense still looks terrible.

Is Smith a kind of guy that could make a move in season to.

Get rid of your decreeat No, because because he'd Smith is an offensive guy and he deals on the offensive.

You know you're not going to do that.

You wouldn't do that to Rossie.

Other coordinator would pay attention.

Now his former defensive coordinator Oregon State who's the head coach there might lose his job.

And he was well regarded as a defensive coordinator Oregon State, and so that you know, who knows moving forward if Jie Rossie found another opportunity or wanted to do something else.

But Joe Rossie is a good coordinator.

I don't think he has the horses right now.

But some of that's on him because part of and it's on the staff like part of being a college football coach is roster assembly.

Is getting the horses, is having the money to do so.

And if you don't, explaining why you don't, it's not just you know, it's a little different because you can do this through the portal Giddion.

Next, we've got to start calling out the names of these chump AP voters.

How does Kochie Riley have a winless Notre Dame in the top ten under AP ballot?

And how is Clemson still getting votes?

As I said, Notre Dame is their two losses are better than any of Indiana's three wins.

I mean, they lost narrowly to a Miami team that could be as good as anybody in the country.

They lost a really close game, you know, and there's some questionable calls as well.

To Texas A and M last week.

I mean, like, they've got their zero to two and they played two incredibly difficult games, close games.

They could be three and oh they could have scheduled three absolute cupcakes and be exactly what Indiana is and exactly what some of these other teams are.

They chose not to, you know, that's part of watching the games and paying attention.

Notre Dame top ten seems a little high, maybe given that they lost both those games, but I would have Notre Dame above Indiana.

In fact, I would And I don't think people should rank teams until they play a power for conference team, at least after three games.

If you haven't played on after three games, you should be It's like playing a road game.

You shouldn't be in the in the road game.

In hoops, I used to you shouldn't be in the in the poll.

Notre Dame's wins or Notre Dame's losses are better than a lot of people's wins.

That's they should be in the And again I'm not saying the AP voters know what they're doing.

Part of the problem this is on the AP.

This thing is due like Sunday morning, if you're working all night covering the one game that you covered all week, Like, how are you even doing that?

I don't the AP.

I I'm pissed off at maybe not everyone crushes tape till seven am.

Well, then you're not doing a credible ballut.

The AP poll is not credible when you'd stop referencing it if you want.

It shouldn't be in your stories.

It's irresponsible to include the AP ballot or an AP ranking in your story.

Professor Adon Hutchinson hasn't won many reps this season and hasn't earned a megadeal and bonus.

Notre Dame is going to test the limits of good losses impacting their ability to make the playoff.

Would they get in at eight and four?

I don't know, they won't.

They won't get in at eight and four, but it is it is a good question.

I mean, nine to three with the losses they've had, I would be really interesting, especially if they go nine to one.

The rest rest of the way I think would be hundreds.

And do you feel like anything's changed on the idea of a mega deal with him?

Oh?

Absolutely, he gets cheaper by the game, right unless he starts putting up some crazy sack numbers, and I think he understands that.

But yeah, the mega deal is definitely not there right now.

Especially coming off the injury.

Like the idea you have to prove you're the guy.

Ye Travis Maynard Lions coming back, coming back to form and scoring a million points only solidifies the fact that this Packers team is for real elite Go pack go and bonus.

I'm leaning towards sitting players at USC if they still need time.

Chances of winning that game seem low and from suburban Spartan dead unless they are both one hundred per MSU should just sit Marsh and Frasier next week, give them extra extra week of rest going into the by then go steal one at Nebraska.

Yeah, I mean it sounds sounds simple that way, But if guys are ready to play, you go like, what is the injury and we don't know the specifics of it, and does three weeks over, you know, does it make a different If you're good to Oh, you're good to go.

If you're not, you don't play a college kid.

You don't play a college you don't you're not shooting up a college kid like a horse or a pro right now with a shot just to get him through the pain, or a pro in the Super Bowl shooting, you know, with broken ribs or whatever they're playing.

You know you're not doing that.

You just don't do that to a young person at this stage.

And they're like, career, you don't.

You want to win though you do want to win, but you can't.

It's not at all cost situation.

Oh then what are we doing?

Forget it?

Then?

Detroit Spartan, after reading couches reaction to the game, I'm back to wanting Jonathan Smith fired.

I didn't know that I put you right.

I just I did an assessment column and.

I read that I didn't seem like you were.

It did seem like add a different tone, I think.

But yeah, I think that you were like, hell, you just defended him on this show.

So it's trying to be really well no, I yeah, I still think long term, there's that that that I think he's a good coach, and I will repeat that and and I think he'll be a good coach even if he doesn't work out at Michigan State.

At a certain point, you can argue there's fit or it's just not happening, but I just think we're aways from there.

Gundy Number one.

People are negative, negatively, negatively, overreacting to MSU's win on Saturday.

We're three and zero and should have more optimism with a big chance to prove we're for real coming up and to MSU football is a top twenty job in the country, and any thought about Jonathan Smith making a downgray move to UCLA are ridiculous.

So this actually got legs here, this Ucla thing.

It was not because it gets put out there, somebody aggregates, somebody surmising it, you know, some national person mentions it or or includes them just because they're putting a list together.

This is why these lists are so irresponsible and stupid and yeah, and people start to connect the dots and that's all it is.

It just doesn't make sense.

Again, you know, they're stupid, but they seem to work.

Gets people going.

It's not quite the same.

But again, saman never looked at West Virginia, so maybe we.

Like, even if you want to go home so badly, would it be Ucla like I would?

Just UCLA has Eastern Michigan's fan base.

Just think of it like that.

Oh yeah, Dave Laken.

Although MSUs three wins based on points four and points against, their offense is tenth and defense is seventeenth and the Big ten.

Joe Rossi needs to do better with the defense or a six win season seems to be in the cards.

Yeah, six wins seems about I mean that's I would if you can bet exact wins anywhere, you know, if you find that line, I think six would be would be it would be a play, especially if you get some plus money on it, because I is that.

A spin zone?

Like that's is that supposed to make us feel better?

I know, I can you just lie and sewing people feel better?

I think with the with the the defense looked concerning the best and the offensive line did not look great, and that's it's not great.

Sparty bar number one.

Joe Rossi needs to find the counter cook of pass rushers on this defense, someone who doesn't practice well but is a real gamer, and to allocate more funds to the strength and conditioning.

Injuries to starters early in the season are a problem every year.

And three, mister Batt, please use your connections at North Carolina to hire back amber Ryane Einstein and bonus congrats to MSU volleyball and there's seven and oh start this season.

She was the Amber, was the I did a story on her.

She was the nutritionist that was the lead nutritionists when they got that great start and that went against Miami.

I did a story on her.

And she was a big part of sort of some changes in mshu's program that got a lot of credit for.

And she was she was well liked.

And where'd she go?

She must be at North Carolina right now.

Yeah, I think she's left directly for North Carolina.

I'm trying to Yeah, i'd mill.

Yeah, the hand out.

I don't strength and conditioning it injuries, injuries are happening everywhere.

It's just because Lizzie Frank.

Yeah, you're paying attention to the to what's happening right now.

In a good start for Amay volleyball.

They haven't played a lot of people yet, but when you're at the place of that program is wins matter.

Get some confidence before the big ten takes played anybody.

Yeah, they played crushing tape on the volleyball schedule.

It played closer to Indiana's schedule, not not maybe better in Indiana's I shouldn't say, but it's it's not Indiana volleyball, no Indiana football.

Oh Thomas, I'm glad we're back to green uniforms, but the all greens need to be reserved for the Michigan game or some other big earned occasion.

All stadiums need to provide free water.

With how long games are going now, it's or just make it a dollar fifty for a water.

Make it cheap.

Yeah, it should be cheap, and or yeah, let's try put it on that.

You want six dollars, you want four minute commercials every every five minutes, you got to provide water.

Tell the networks that see if they see everybody gets a bottle of water on their seat when they show up.

Altho it wouldn't be cold.

So that doesn't work either way.

Corey Ostrom bottom line is MSU is three and zero.

There are concerns in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

Coverage, issues with the linebackers, troubling injuries, and defensive scheming and game planning.

A powerful offense keeps them in every game going forward through so so six and six seems reasonable and bonus.

MSU's Lefalel and Santiago should play all game long.

At rush end, good young talent that coaches should cut loose and develop in season can't hurt.

Well, they got to They gotta find something there.

And and again it may just be youth, and maybe it may be something that comes out.

It's just they don't.

They don't seem to have guys who You know, when Montes Sweat showed up at Michigan State and I know he smoked himself out of the job and he got kicked out of the program back when weed was illegal and that was you know, couldn't quite get through that.

But the like, they just couldn't stop him in pract They don't have that guy.

They need that They that defense needs that guy.

And it's just not there.

How do you not get some fake piss or something to get that guy to play?

Like you watch him in practice and you go, he likes to smoke weed.

Coach, we got to do something.

Yeah, you have to.

You gotta have a guy whose job is to provide the pe.

You know, have you ever provided P for anybody?

I don't who would want my P as far as weed, I mean maybe other stuff.

I don't do anything else anymore.

I would never share who, But I've provided p for an employment test.

But I believe that, Yeah, yeah, I would.

You would be the first person I go to.

I think yeah.

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I just give it about Clemens Spartan hot take.

The rest of MSU season will be defined by one play.

Three MSU O linemen blocking one FCS rusher and somehow the result is friendly fire, putting Luka Vincic out for the season.

This team lacks athletes and a headiness that great teams possess.

That was a bad moment.

There's no quote question for the offensive line for Luca who you know, they talked up and he had been out and then he comes back and he's starting and they really really like him, and the depth of that group is going to be tested.

Monfield tailgate.

I enjoy a fall tailgate, but three September home games is the way to go.

MSU hit the perfect schedule this year with a Friday night, Saturday night and then Saturday three thirty game schedule.

I'm in favor of scheduling home and homes with Power five schools so we can continue to get that every other year.

Yeah, three September home games the way to go.

Some people don't like it.

It's too much like you want the break.

You want some weeks you're watching on TV.

In other weeks you're back.

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Yeah?

Let let's let's go.

Down to UH to UH to our friend up product jerk Guy, and actually we'll do We got time for Jake and unpredict jork Guy, and we'll get to these.

We'll get to these.

We'll get to these midweek.

I apologize again.

We're we're gonna have to figure this out on Mondays because we don't quite have time to do our full show on Mondays usually, So we'll we'll figure that out.

Jake Hawkins number one eight and Chiles took another step.

But by god, what is going on with the defense?

Do we need to look hard and wonder about Joe Rossi as a defensive coordinator?

And two bodies piling up from the injury from injuries for MSU has me wondering what's going on with the strength and conditioning?

And three the Tigers better sweep the Guardians.

They don't need to sweep them.

They just need to win at least one in this series.

I mean, ideally they'd win a couple and it just put it away.

Two puts it away?

Two?

Is it?

They went two of four?

They're winning the division.

The question is can they also still remain in the number at least one of the time?

We sure those are Jake's takes.

I don't believe that those are the right ones or did you edit those?

Like that's not a Jake like?

Tigers better sweep the Guardians?

Is that really his?

I think it's him all right.

And finally the d the jerk guy.

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