Episode Transcript
Congratulations all week one point one mad and is rway.
Speaker 2So I'm working on it.
I'm working on it, yo, What up?
Artists?
Joe cracked at Dawn your.
Speaker 3Boy Jada, you know what it is?
Did Joe and Jada's show.
And we have a very special guest.
You know, we like to we bring variety of guests, but they're all golden individuals.
And today we have a very golden individual.
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for our brothers with his phone ringing.
Speaker 2And all that airy spears makes some noise.
Yo, what up?
What up?
What up?
What's up?
My brother?
Speaker 4You gotta let me have a second to geek out for a minute, because you know, like my best friend over there, you know, we came up on y'all man, you know, and the hip hop thing, and uh, you know, I ain't know until I found out Joe hit me up.
Was like, Yo, I need you to do me a solid and do the intro for my upcoming album.
I was more than happy to do it.
One of my favorite rappers, but I never met you until today.
And I'm telling you, I'm fucked up because I'm literally sitting next to hands down one of the greatest mcs of all time, like you and my top five dog.
And every time I every time I dolad or any kind of show where I talk kept Hop, I go my top five, no particular order.
Speaker 2This guy ain't ship and I always show this guy.
I say, Jada, Hove, Nas, Biggie and Rock.
Nah, we ain't going for that.
Want to shoot me.
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5The reason I love Jada the most because the locks unity.
They there for your This god is fucking diabolical.
He been sitting next to me in this show.
I start watching old clips of the show and I said, holy shit, he't go flaming me, young ladies, your roastap Christmas Hlarrys City.
Speaker 2But listen that it went viral.
Speaker 3But if you listen to the way I scripted it you I told him, could you listen your legendary coach in the Rock, legendary coach in New York City.
Speaker 2You won plenty of tournaments.
Speaker 3You got he listens out the wazoo on your Roston.
Now if you was to happen to play, I'm just saying the way you're golden, the legs that been to the eighth Wonders of the world and all of this.
If you was to hit him with the year, you know, the year of three movies, Boom boom boom.
Speaker 2But if you had hit him with them, you saw that what you did lay.
Speaker 3Up if you mean your stoppable, like if you fuck me up, because dude, it's a rapper and I don't be shooting it was coming on a million would you talking?
Speaker 2Was comedically on point?
Speaker 6What because I didn't even know you had the Kenny Smiths.
I saw the picture one day and I saw that the new was moving and I was like, oh, I know.
Speaker 2Joe was felt like he was.
Speaker 3Into what it is he says in me doing business with him and being with him.
Speaker 2He got a few different walks run off his depending on his mood.
Speaker 3I don't know, it's depending on I mean, he might got a good call this day, nice super bags coming.
There might have been you know, might be one of the days, I mean something something.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Some days he got he got different walks.
Can you agree with me?
May he got different.
Speaker 5Ship in the house I got to Sherman Helmsley, Oh you do that.
Speaker 2Off for real?
Speaker 5Though, Like in the house, I'm walking to go eat some ship, to go see the movie.
Speaker 2I got the Sherman Hens That's that's in the crew.
Speaker 3Is Shelman Hemsley.
How you're gonna do?
George Jefferson like that man called me Shelman.
He's calling me Ari.
Speaker 2I'm fried Man.
I fucked up from the language to the legs.
Speaker 5Listen, listen, let me tell you, Let me tell you Ari, Let me tell you aries.
This thing's under you.
You're one of the funniest guys in the world.
I appreciate all your contributions and everything you do.
I believe it's hip hop right, you always represent hip hop culture.
Speaker 2We got gotta fix the ice.
Speaker 5Cube borderline violation, right because ice Cube here in this show, we is the love of the culture.
He is the preservation.
This is like the national preservation forests of hip hop and whatever that means.
And uh, you know ice Cube living legend.
Do you ever is it just jokes with you or do you ever feel like, let me be clear, did I miss something?
Let me yes, we skipped the whole thing we're trying to I'm doing the Jada kiss right, I'm trying to fix this.
Speaker 4And let me let me be clear here, first and foremost, I never attacked ice Cube demand I never attacked this character.
Speaker 2And first of all, my whole point was this word hate.
Speaker 4It's being so overly abused and thrown around now, and unless you have an opinion that's favorable, you a hater.
No, I'm opinionated, and I'm sometimes in my delivery comedically na a little bit brutal.
But at the end of the day, I never question is man his character.
I never questioned them as a man.
And listen, I even gave him as flowers and said, yes, he is a pioneer, a trailblazer and icon and hip hop, especially with the West Coast.
Speaker 2I'm just not a fan of his artistry.
Speaker 4And by that, I'm just simply meaning listen man for me, my musical palette, my hip hop palette.
I'm an East Coast ove man, but I like I like Stup, I like Pop who technically is.
Speaker 2From the East.
Speaker 5But nonetheless, just because I'm not an audea of that does not mean.
Speaker 2That I'm a hater.
Speaker 4And if I'm being really specific, what I was really speaking to was comedically acting wise, because I just feel like, un listen, I know it's all about getting the bag and the money, and you know, I just feel like with sometimes artistry.
Speaker 2A rapper can't do.
Speaker 4Comedically what a comedian can because that's a muscle, that's an instinct that's in our blood.
We eat, sleep, shit, breathe comedy no more than I can go into booth and do what you can better than you.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 5I saw TI do some comedy.
He was actually pretty good.
Okay, don't go there.
Speaker 4Your opinion, it's your opinion, my opinion, but the comedy community will tell you otherwise, because here's a problem.
Here's a problem.
If you gonna step into another genre, gotta humble yourself.
And Ti approaches comedy with the same bravado approaches rapp that's a different aesthetic.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'll tell yourself.
I agree with you.
I thought t I was funny, right, and I'm and I'm I may die.
Speaker 5One day, fuy no, no, but I may die one day of laughter.
I don't know if nobody yet of laughing, because I'm the guy they threw it.
They threw me out the movie, did that, Eddie Murphy raw I went over there with the whole projects.
Out of the whole projects, the security came as like, you're an asshole, You're the one that gotta go.
I'm the one making the most noise in the movie there that they threw me out the movie.
I A'm a sucker for a laugh, like a sucker for a laugh.
Speaker 2So I thought, see, I was funny.
But there's levels to this ship.
Speaker 5Well, I even I'm gonna admit something here too, that that I've been noticing I've been looking to and shit, you know, you know, and hip hop it's all about competition, right, so you got to convince yourself you're better than ever you have a rapp or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2And so there's a bit of a delusion or whatever.
Speaker 5And so we start the podcast and the first thing I do is start shooting, you know, like I want to smoke with all the podcasters.
Speaker 2And I realized I gotta.
Speaker 5Humble myself a little because we just started this, even though we're the rookies of the year.
But I could see what people can look at it and be like, yo, this guy, you know, But it's just my heart.
I've always been like a warrior gladiator to come out there for the smoke.
But I realized the podcasts a different space.
It's like everybody's smiling at each other.
Nobody got smoked with each other.
So I'm thinking top five dead or love who want to jump out?
Speaker 2Where's the smoke?
Speaker 5Who you are?
But that ain't what it's about.
It's about having an opinion and bringing something to the people.
So I get what you're saying with the well t I yeah, Chris.
Speaker 2I mean you're right and then wrong.
Speaker 3This is different kind of it's different kind of smokers like behind the scenes.
It's behind the scenes hate and smoker with this.
But I don't want saying even out you just we bonding this spitch well at least.
Speaker 2I am mhmm.
Speaker 3I mean, if you tell me podcasting or rappid they said, gentlemen, this is our last show.
I like, but you know what I mean, as well as you could do both.
You know, people start thinking you taking their job.
Speaker 2So you were feeling that beyond the scenes.
Speaker 3You don't you just being voisteous.
I'm just watching them from the side.
Speaker 5Have you ever dealt with this because you're one of the most liked Yeah, that season of all time?
Speaker 2You real with that?
I am, but I ain't.
Speaker 3When it's time to go three on the Spartan then I'm not that light as I am whenning And.
Speaker 4Just so you know, outside.
It wasn't just Cue that jumped on me.
Fifty jumped on me too.
Is it that because the joke I made about fifty.
I mean, see, with fifty in them niggas, they'll beat you up.
Heris I'm just keeping it real.
Maybe Ice Cubis regular you know what's.
Speaker 5No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2I'm keeping it a buck.
Speaker 5You run into them guys in the airport, they might do something to you.
I had beef with them.
That's cool, so I.
Speaker 2Know what the beat.
I know what the beef is.
Speaker 5One thing for us to just like certain guys you don't play with because they're gonna come me listen.
Speaker 2I love the comedians.
Speaker 4I'm like, it's no thing with Joe Joe Joe.
I don't ever pretend to be something I'm not.
You know, I ain't an Evans nigger.
I'm a Huxtable.
But best believe I keep some dudes with me too.
Speaker 2Don't you.
Speaker 5They're gonna have to jump out Jews.
I'm telling team of Juice and I saw them a fuck in a minute, y'all.
Fendy, Fendy, we got royalty in the building.
I ain't no Fendy snuck in there you got a trump at a studio.
Speaker 6It is.
Speaker 5We have this be by a reason.
I'm just trying to I gotta be honest with you because you're my guy.
You on my almble my fuck with you.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5I advocate for you every time I can because I think you're hilarious.
Speaker 2But I do know where that could go wrong.
Speaker 5Well, of course one ice cube me on right?
This, hey, right, that one could go wrong.
I'm promising you.
Speaker 2You know you put hands and feet on people too.
Why are you?
Speaker 4Why are you just like you don't do that?
That's nothing about that comedian.
Listen, let me let me tell you the joke it was.
It was almost harmless.
I was talking about how, you know, any anytime they make a brother play in a movie where he's a scientist or a computer tech, like fifty Dead in the movie with Stallone Foy's called but it was in the prisons and glass cubes, And I said, you know what the difference between fifty the rapper from fifty to computer tech.
I'm a computer tick, Beauties of a computer Tick, Classics, Clark Kent, Superman.
If you're a great actor, you don't need the glasses.
Speaker 2Just do the performance.
So that was the joke, yo.
Speaker 5But let me tell you something, right, I've been such a fan of comedy where I believe comics.
Speaker 2Should never and could never be canceled.
Speaker 5So like the moment they fake canceled Dave Chappelle, which I started on in the shows to perform at his show, Yo, Dave, you in town, I want to come out do a couple because I believe.
Speaker 2Comedy is the one.
Speaker 5Sweet spot in life where the white black agean yes, where they could talk about whatever.
Speaker 2The fuck they want to talk about.
Speaker 5Like, you know, that's how I feel about comedy, and so that's that's how you must feel about it too, huh.
Speaker 4Listen three of the greatest quotes ever Dave Chappelle.
You don't know where the line is in comedy until you cross it.
George Carlin, you should know where the line is in comedy and deliberately crossing free so O'Neil God rest his soul.
Great comedy leaves half audience laughing the other half horrified.
Speaker 2Wow.
So that's the credle I lived by.
Yeah, man and you.
Speaker 5From the clough man who would you say us should you into the game, who was like a mentor.
Speaker 3Of who this guy came in the game at fourteen.
That's his I think that's he made Histores.
Nobody else will death.
Speaker 4Jam sixteen showtime at Apollo seventeen.
So what I'm saying is who I was then?
Eighties baby, So in that era, you know, prior to the explosion of death Jam, Hollywood only allowed one nigga for a decade, So it was like, you know what I mean, it was like definitely rich.
Speaker 2And what's my man named?
Speaker 4Dick Gregory really in the sixties, prior in the seventies, Eddie in the eighties, and then by the nineties, death Jam hit and now black comics was everywhere.
But Eddie was my dude, was my like my inspiration because I know he started at fourteen, So I was like, if he did it, does.
Speaker 2It go with comedy?
Is it like rap or whatever?
Speaker 5Like how do they determine who's going to get the bag right?
Because there's so many funny comedians like I did Hollywood?
Speaker 2What did I do?
Hollywood?
Squiz?
What's your man?
Family feud?
Well, I want to go on family.
Speaker 5You should take your family man on there and all the all d block let's go.
Speaker 2You should we shut that up?
Up, So we go on there.
Speaker 5They got the fluffy Spanish guy.
I didn't know much about him, and then they turned around and said, you know this guy sold out Dodger Stadium.
Yeah, So who determines who's going to be a big boy, who's gonna be the underground, who's gonna be you know, in rap music, some guys choose to be underground, but they're like, yo, I don't want to hear.
Speaker 2I just want to be the purest.
And then.
Speaker 5Some people like me, you know, commercialized.
Some people might call that sellout when I have a record like What's Love?
Speaker 4Who determines well in terms of it, if you're talking about just straight movies and TV, the gatekeepers to those you know, white folks, they run that, you know what I mean.
If you talk about more like stand up in the grind, that's on you, you know, and a lot of people always go, man, you should be the bigger.
You should listen.
My mouth is my biggest attribute, but it's also my biggest detriment, you.
Speaker 2Know what I mean.
Speaker 4So it's like I say a lot of shit that sparks controversy.
Speaker 2I'm a hater, I'm this, I'm not so you know it works for you.
Speaker 4It's it's working for me, but it ain't took off that You was like, you know, listen, I don't like who took off that.
Speaker 2You was like, why are you learning them?
No, I'm not lying them up.
Speaker 3I'm just who took There's some dudes where you just go, you know, I just don't understand, like, like, there's no sense in this game, you know, I mean, there's no there's no logic to none of this ship.
Speaker 4You know, the people that are where they are deserved to be there.
Kevin Harnt deserves to be there.
You know, Mike Keeps deserves.
Speaker 2To be there.
But you know, at the end of the day, you you just got to play this bullshit game.
Man.
You know.
Speaker 4I feel like if I put it in boxing terms, you know, let me put it like this, I got Michael Jordan's dreams with Dennis Robin Habits.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4I'm saying I should be Madison Avenue b ba ba ba.
Speaker 2But I like porn stars and liquor.
Speaker 4So you know, I got a less talent, but my behavior and some of the things I do and say might be you know, like I said, my biggest detriment.
Speaker 5Like me and you, we gotta talk maybe in the next podcast about what I am and what he said with jay Z and Black, like who I mean staying out of that?
Speaker 2Yeah, but you got it.
I mean I just stay out of that.
You can.
Speaker 5No, I'm going I'm gonna definitely got something to say about that.
I don't You ain't got nothing to say about that.
But my point is them guys became huge, right they beat me for the Grammy all Black, they beat me for What's Love.
What's Love was like number one in the country.
They beat me for the Grammy, this before Fergie.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 5Once they get Fergie, they start making world music and all this shit and they take everything right.
But those are guys that went out there.
They surprised me when they were selling ten million, twenty million this then and not saying the music ain't good.
But that's what I mean.
Like you've seen somebody leak through and you was like, WHOA.
But to just give you some gems or some knowledge right now, because we're talking even though this is funny, but we're talking about some servious shit.
I think you figured out everything.
You just answered it.
I think if you analyze this video, you can make certain changes to catapult you to the next level.
Just look at the words you said and just make some adjustments.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 4I think part of what puts me or what's going to put me on this path is doing stuff like this.
You know what I'm saying.
Like for once upon a time ago, I was against the whole social media put in stand up clips out.
I was against that.
But then I was like, you know what, man, I took a page out of Matt Rife book was like, let me hire a videographer and let me, you know.
Speaker 2Pay the play.
Speaker 4And because I did that, I went from I mean, within the course of three months, I went from three hundred thousand Instagram followers to one point four.
You know, my Facebook jump from three hundred thousand to one point eight.
So you know, and people is funny, like I always say, people of most people are fucking idiots because people will say shit online like man, all he do is crowd Where did he ever tell a joke?
And I said, listen, man, you don't give the key a cocaine away for free.
I'm giving you a sample of the product.
Once you like the sample, now come to the show and pay for the key.
Speaker 2I gotta tell you this.
Speaker 4I gotta cut up your food for you to eat, like your mother did with you with Toddler, so you don't choke.
Speaker 5Certain things is common fucking knowledge.
But I gotta tell you this, that's crazy.
Speaker 2Man.
He's funny.
Speaker 4All he does is impressions.
So I'm thirty six years in this game, and all I know how to do is dunk.
Speaker 2Man.
Speaker 5I sit, I sit down in the studio.
Sometimes, like I heard some shit.
Somebody said, you definitely don't want no part of this.
What I'm about to say, Oh, he's not responsible for the next line.
But somebody said they not like us.
I forget who it was said that it wasn't mixed right.
Somebody said, yo, that wasn't mixed right, right.
I forget who James looked that up right now, because that's important.
Somebody said, yo, wasn't the music wasn't mixed right?
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 5And then some people agreed with the person who Rodney Jenkins.
Jerkins, somebody agreed with him and say, yeah, you know it could have been mixed better, right.
Speaker 2But all we know.
Speaker 5Is that they not like us is a smoker.
That shit filtered the whole hemisphere, right.
And so when I get in the studio with producers and they start to talk about a smashit record, they'd be like, the snare wasn't right.
Speaker 2The eight o eight?
Could it came?
I'm like, yo, bro, no one gives a fuck about what.
Speaker 5It should have been.
How professional it is?
The fucking record's number one.
It's a fucking head and I've been in there in the studio with producers.
Speaker 2This guy didn't use the tinker bell right, he didn't, Yo, My man.
Speaker 5Who gives a fuck?
This shit is number one?
And so uh who was that?
Speaker 2DJ?
Speaker 5Ve Ladd said, what, well listen?
But the engineers agreed with him.
They said Kendrick sent that shit in and said I wanted out in a half an hour.
So that the engineer was like, yo, I couldn't even mix it.
Speaker 2It was just it was good.
It was just smash hit.
Speaker 5He did the best he could and that ship went out there, so he actually was right.
Speaker 2I didn't hear it like that.
Speaker 5When I hear that ship going crazy in the club in the stadium and everything going crazy, I'm like, yo, say hit.
Yeah, I didn't know how he was supposed to person.
They no, because why did I come up with that scenario?
Speaker 2You know I'm fried.
I keep telling you showing men, No, I'm fried.
What do people ask you to do?
What's your most successful impersonation?
Ah?
Ship, I know it all they all are.
They like the Tellervione that people always Actually they like the Tony soprano.
Oh yeah, you be killing.
Speaker 7Fucking medal of ag.
She's going down to the fucking uties.
She's got the matter guy.
But the fucker grazy.
Oh my kids love it.
Mend a Janis joy shack.
Speaker 2You know that ship phrase?
Speaker 5You know me, I don't know my voice might be didn't the Italian spider all Italian joint and you start talking like that the whole fucking place to look at you, right, They be like yo, what the fuck?
Speaker 2They love it?
Speaker 4And when I do it at the show, it's like the Italians go, fucking niggas good.
Speaker 5You know that one guy he does a good Denzel Oh just King, yeah, say something heap of all the dudes that did Denzel me godfree my man.
Speaker 2Reggie reads out of Chicago.
Speaker 4Uh, Sea King and Dean Edwards and again this place two people going, man, you hey, do you you don't give it up to other people?
I said, listen, Sea King was is so cold with it.
I stopped doing it because I felt foolish.
He's dead the fuck on, and every chance I get to promote him, I tell people.
People still hit me up and go, yo, you're Denzel see King.
He got the crown.
Man got that, he got the crowns like that that.
Speaker 2It's like that.
Speaker 5Sometimes you know you got a big something.
Sometimes somebody does something so good you don't want to fuck with it.
Speaker 4Well, you know, everybody like this, there's certain impressions that everybody owns, like you go, Frank Caliendo owns Madden, see King owns Denzel J.
Farrell owns Will Smith.
So for me, it's like throwing soprano shack, you know.
Speaker 2And scored when they dominate, dominate, get inside inside outside game.
You gotta get the ball man.
You gotta put the eyes comedic comedic part of it.
Speaker 5Why you made it like the back of the bus, just like that.
Speaker 2You know he sounds just that, but you ain't see the eyes.
Sha shack.
He was doing the real loves it in the yellow bus shaq.
But he loves it.
He loves it.
He was on that dress.
I love Jada Kitts, but he really fun me up with this euro step ship.
I'm it's just like god.
Speaker 5I said, no, no, no, you being a comedian, you've seen that ship.
You you thought somebody helped dig anybody do the battery back?
Speaker 2That was so good?
Yes, that ship was too good.
Joe I said that I can't.
I can't keep fighting you for verbal rebound position.
Speaker 4Uh, listen, rappers and comedians a little bit of because it's wordplay, it's it's jokes, it's metaphors, punchlines.
Speaker 2So that's not that's not.
I can rap, but.
Speaker 4I'm not a rapper, but I can.
I can some lyrics.
Fact, let me see.
I don't want to embarrass myself.
But because I tried to do a BIGGI impression and it was awful.
Uh, but I wrote the lyrics where I said some about the Biggie baby bit delivers cold like the shivers, talk slick ship, spick game is vicious, malicious.
How I rolled through you like a cancer doctor speak bleak, talk about your chances, seem the work slow to keeme on, flush to the bone, merrow when that row fuck several fuck beef, make peace with your priest.
The least think an think about tomorrow Poppa spotsor Biggie be the dropcher, Chris, keep it real, keep it frank like Sinatra, something like that.
So I'm not a rapper, but you know what I mean, and I'm got it in this new generation was using it be a voice a little bit?
Speaker 2How you I don't really have it?
Speaker 5Like, how do you feel when you go into and enough people have Jack Biggie's voice that he don't have to be that accurate?
Like you know, but when I every fat dude came up to me with Biggie voice, I personally no disrespect.
Guys, let me if you want to learn something right now on hip hop.
I think I've been in it for a long time as a fan as a rapper.
Speaker 2Don't jack nobody.
Speaker 5Their style, their voice, they're swagg You're wasting your time.
Do you know how many guys I met?
They were fucking dead nice, they allly had to be was dumb.
Speaker 2And they might have been a superstar.
Speaker 5But when they come on us and they doing the voice, I don't like, nobody sounded like nobody.
Speaker 4That's why when when I get called the old head for going yo, why don't you like this new generation?
All your niggas sound the same, the same melodies, the same cadence, the same flow.
Speaker 5All your niggas sound the same.
But it was always like that.
No, no, you have listen if you try.
In the nineties, treachers rhyming like this, dude, your niggas.
Speaker 2It's craziest.
If you look at every video at that time.
Speaker 5Every rapper from anywhere was doing whoever's been popping, they've been jacking this.
If DMX Tretch had that move, if DMX was you know how many guys I've seen coming in the studio with a dog thinking.
Speaker 3There and those guys didn't last no at all.
Speaker 2So originality was a thing back then.
Speaker 5Oh no, very very Now it's commonplace to be the same.
It's crazy.
But I do believe that this new generation is a lot different from my and I'm not trying to hate on them or talk them down.
I just say that they're looking more for the bag or the lick.
It ain't so much culture, it ain't so much YO.
This legacy.
They like YO for some reason.
Speaker 2Everybody.
Speaker 5I don't know if it's like that in comedy, but everybody think they could be a rapper.
Speaker 2They think this is the easiest job in the world.
Speaker 5Everybody, the guy at the target, Target, the guy works the front desk in this building, the.
Speaker 2Guy at the deli, the dudes on the court.
Speaker 5Everybody think the rap is just the easiest ship in the world.
Speaker 2But they could become successful.
Speaker 4But a lot of people will feel like today it is because it's garbage.
Speaker 2It's just not as potent as it used to be.
It's gobbage.
Speaker 4So the dude that talks can be a rapper, it's stepped on bacon soda.
Then I'm telling you, if I really wanted to, I could do this shit.
But but my passion, my passion for excellence, don't allow me to sound like garbage.
Speaker 5I try to tell like guys similar.
I try to but not so offensive.
But I try to tell like my nephews or whoever try to rap and all that.
Speaker 2I'd be like, yo, it's so much easier for you, and we had.
Speaker 5To guard Rock Kim.
You know, even Fat Joe I discovered big pun.
But I went to the school of big pun, meaning we double platinum and the parties outside and we the hottest.
And he'd be like, fuck that we write moms.
Today there's ninety degrees and everybody coming in the benzes in the truck Yo were.
Speaker 2Going to ortr be.
Speaker 5She be like, fuck all that crack we're writing.
And so I went to the school of Big Pump with he will bust your bubble like the way we used to rhyme when Big Pump was alive.
Speaker 2Not even healthy for your brain.
Speaker 5Now you find a way to put fifty words in one loose sleeve with that thing one of the most classics over that diddly Itly this exactly what I'm thinking of while I'm explaining it to you, right.
Speaker 2It's like, well we did that song.
It was like.
Speaker 5So much pressure to put every word together, everything together, and now you gotta have some swags, some melody, something.
It's definitely easy in this man.
Speaker 4I said out the post one time where I said Biggie's Niggas Bleed should be a tutorial anybody trying to rap, because with that win, with that picture he painted, with the melody and the pace of the song, you thought you was looking at a scene in the Martin Scus says he felt.
I mean it was vivid, and I'm like, that should be if you want to be a rapper, you have to You should.
Speaker 2Have thought in real life I can't say much.
Speaker 5Yeah, in real life, I can't say as much as him because they was actually part of the team.
Speaker 2But you know, Biggie was my man.
Speaker 5And I seen the Scorsese picture in real life, you know, I uh, I was in his house, hanging out with him in Brooklyn and this he just got lit.
But I mean like just got lit.
He was like, yo, Joe, come to my show.
I think it was Roseland and the Palladium.
I got a shoulder night, this and that, and Biggie was like us hockey shirt shorts, whatever, this, this, this, and man.
When I seen the pictures of that party where he had the soundmon suit on with the Gators with that, I seen him transform into that character.
Speaker 2And I say, he ain't the real deal, but I've seen it with my own eyes.
Speaker 5It shocked me.
I knew him, and I couldn't believe it.
Like he did so much for the culture of you know taking.
You know, if you think about Biggie, everything was underground before that.
Speaker 2Like so a song like.
Speaker 5Mass a Field that was straight hardcore beats pre mo and lyrics from Google Rest in Peace.
That was the hit, and that was playing on every radio station, and it was like hardcore.
Speaker 2Ship was the hit, and then Biggie turned.
Speaker 5It into like taking those samples and making it a super hit.
Right, So his vision to rap on those beats and to take it to another level, everything about him is still all falls blows my mind every time I listen to Biggie because I just can't believe he was that good like and it's cadence and it's.
Speaker 2It's funny because again when people go, yo, what's your top five?
Speaker 5And I say it, and I've seen this online where people go, I don't know how people put Big in the top five.
He only watched two albums And I'm going listen, how much evidence do you need to see to tell this?
Somebody is special?
So what do you think that if he if he was alive, he would have just fell off?
He was gonna get better.
I don't need eight albums to know what you were.
You showed me the first time.
So come on, man, that's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 2Man.
I people are fucking stupid.
Most people are fucking stupid, but you really don't see it.
Speaker 1You don't understand it.
And because I'll say that, oh.
Speaker 5This here, do you want me to stay true to your to your opinion and your voice in your opinion.
Speaker 2I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 5I've had young kids telling me that Biggie sounds like to the hip hop to them right now with the way they wrap y.
Speaker 2You know, the youth is crazy.
Speaker 4Look our heroes, well my heroes, Like I said, I grew up on your rock, Kim krus One.
You know what I mean, Biggie.
They heroes is liu Uzi, Satchel's and purses.
I can't disrespect little Uzi.
That's your opinion.
Just he's my guy and I love it.
Speaker 2Well, what was your experience like on Mad Team?
Speaker 3When I saw you on there, it was like you was fucking Litton.
Speaker 2It was like one of the first black people on Mad TV for me.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, well no, actually before that was Orlando Jones, Phil Lamar, and Deborah Wilson.
Speaker 2I came in season three.
He was one of the litis.
Speaker 4Listen man, I you know again, if I could have had it my way, I would have loved to have taken the path of Eddie Murphy, you know, a couple of years on SNL and.
Speaker 2Then to the Stratosphere.
Speaker 4But I didn't get a chance of playing the NBA I played in CBA for the ABA, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2Mad TV just wasn't snl.
Speaker 5Let me tell you something, they always got that little white affiliation.
With no disrespect to my white brothers and sisters, but they always got like JB.
Smooth, he's pretty much a black jew Like they look he with that Larry David.
Speaker 2He must be performing at every bar I missed for.
Jamie Smooth is Jewish.
Don't get that fucked up.
You know they got that once you get that little jam them gold sign.
Speaker 5I'm telling you that's my man.
They love him, The Jews love him.
He's down with Larry David.
Speaker 2That's his crew.
Like Tracy Morgan.
Speaker 5Tracy Morgan keep it all the way hip hop, big gold chase like I'd be working.
Speaker 2I'll be bumping at Tracy Morgan's one guy.
Speaker 5I bump into the hood in a million dollar Lamborghini an the other day with the top of I don't know what the fuck he doing there.
He's driving by himself.
Speaker 2No security.
He's all the way hood.
Speaker 5But for some reason, the white people really love Tracy Morgan.
Speaker 4I mean, he hit all the right notes, you know what I mean.
Saturday Live thirty Rock you know what I mean.
So he hit all the right notes and listen.
Worked so there is a truth to that.
Oh absolutely, and listen Tracy Man.
You know I love you.
We comedians always go Tracy Morgan.
Sounds like a New York City that way.
Speaker 2Yo, trip shit, how are you doing?
That's comic Banta man Scott shipping.
None on my whosh, But that's what comics do.
Man.
If he if he was, he hit me back.
Yeah, trip shit.
Tracy caught that bag too.
Speaker 5Ain't sure that that motherfucker got too much money?
Every time I say him, yo, can I invest?
He don't even know what he want to invest in?
You telling me want some money?
Can I invest?
Yo, Tracy, I don't need no money now.
That motherfucker got the super bag.
You know he told me, he said if he dropped.
We live in the same neighborhood.
His ship is bigger than mine.
Don't get it fucked up his thirty Rock money.
I think it was that Walmart money.
I'm sure that made the bag.
Speaker 4Have you but NBC Tina fey Alec bowin thirty Rock Prime Time, I'm sure he had the bag.
But the bag you know, when you lawsuit, it's like you don't get no taxes on that or not.
Speaker 2You get the whole whatever you get.
But he said he.
Speaker 5Called the cops on his if he sees his brother and sisters in that neighborhood because they don't belong there, he'll call the cops, Like, yo, they outside.
Speaker 2That's hilarious, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3How does how does it work when you trust some material on it?
Don't land how you expect it, but just throw it out off now.
Speaker 2You just go back in the lab and rework it.
Speaker 4And you know, I always say a joke is never done because you don't know at what point, at any point at night, you're on the stage and you say one word that takes it from here to here.
So a joke is never done.
You know, big poem was real funny, and I grew up some funny guys.
Speaker 2Yeah, and.
Speaker 5I had this one friend and maybe you just what you're talking about.
If he gets you laughing, he will double triple quad you five times double down, like he'll just keep on with the ship where you can't, you know, when you got cramps and shit, like you just can't take it no more.
It's like a real assassin, you know, he's like the movie Killer or some shit like that.
He really trying to kill you with the shits.
Oh that's my approach on stage.
Speaker 2Man, Like if you got him, you're like, oh no, I'm gonna finish this time.
This guy.
Speaker 4My approach is, I'm Mike Tyson in the eighties and we ain't going two rounds.
I'm trying to tear your head off.
That's why I'm glad I came up when I did.
Man, I got these T shirts I'm gonna drop and says built eighties tough because the shit we did back then kids don't do now, and I think it's kind of made them a little soft.
Speaker 2When you went to show What, Show What?
Speaker 5One of the shows you went to where you was on the lineup and it was some other people in the line up say like for us, it's a sumber jam or something like that, and you like, y'all, I'm gonna smoke this and you walk out of the head.
Speaker 2You know, top Dog, you know that night.
But who else was on the lineup?
It was the after Death Jam exploded.
Speaker 4It was the first Death Gym tour and it was Adele Givens, Regie McFadden, me Bill Bellamy and Bernie Mac and uh Bernie step your game up.
Speaker 2We let that bitch just step your game up.
Speaker 5You know, because every time I got a concert, Fabulous wants to perform after me.
Speaker 2I don't know why we.
Speaker 5Gotta ask fab when he come here, because I've watched him sit in the car like the lineup says Fabulous, the Fat Joe and uh Nellie or something like this.
The man find a way all the time to perform after me.
Findy here, Joe, Fendy.
Why does Fabulous want to perform after Fat Joe in every shot like you see, I don't watch it.
I'm gonna ask him when he comes on the couch.
Boy, I'm just trying to tell you, is there anybody like that that you just like?
Oh?
He trying to like because fab is particular the one that he wanted to perform.
I mean, you're up anywhere.
I don't care if I got the number one song in the world.
He gonna find a way to come late to perform after.
Speaker 2Why is that?
You think?
Is it?
Because is it up?
Speaker 5We gotta ask him because I'm confused because he's my friend, He's my buddy.
Do you I'm asking you do you think it's a thing where it's like he doesn't want to follow you or he wants to I'm confused.
Speaker 2I keep telling you, I'm confused.
Speaker 5We done did everything from stadiums to little low budget.
Speaker 2You know, every last minute.
Speaker 5You know it's a nice winter day, they call you and they be like, yo, somebody's having his birthday party.
He got a little bag pull up and it's me and Fab and I watched him in the car like like this, waiting for me to go on perform.
The minute I'm on stage, just as Fab come in, he grabbed the mike after me.
You know, I don't know what is I don't know if he does that to everybody, he does it to me, Who does that to you?
Speaker 4Uh no, nobody really, because you know, whenever I would do you know, dinners with for five other comics, your placement, with your placement, and you know you.
Speaker 2Want to go before rap.
Speaker 3I want to go early anywhere and rip the gizze druns off and leave you with no Gizzard drugs.
Speaker 2I don't want to go after it.
I want to make it.
It's hard.
I don't want to go after it's.
Speaker 5A super pause.
But let me let me tell you something.
I feel the same way.
I got no problem at certain places where I go.
If they'll be like Joe, you got a half an hour, that's even easier for me.
That's hip mania.
I just keep banging to the dizzy and I'm mad at it.
You made a mistake if you want to perform after me, especially if they say, yo, Joe, just a half an hour forty five.
I'm just coming with straight hits to me.
You know you said earlier that you know you are fair something to me.
Last week they didn't do nothing to me.
But I'm out in La I got a concert, and I knew it was a mistake.
Speaker 2So I'm like they put me before somebody.
Speaker 5And I was like, oh, this is a mistake, I said, because I'm about to tear the paint off this bitch so bad that this next person performed after me and their legends and I was like, this is a mistake.
Speaker 2Like, but I ain't say nothing.
You know, you know what talking to him it is like playing double Dutch.
Fact.
You gotta try to jump in because even when I started.
Speaker 5The station, now you said verbal you said verbal rebound position either or yo me and Nori, we're gonna vacation.
Speaker 2Phil.
Speaker 4Because I clearly was off the runway, and that Nigga said, and then then here's the thing, so let me you earlier said you love the last and you take a joke and all that all the time.
Dude, does anybody ever comedians do you like like I'm saying, if somebody tried to fuck with you, will that bother you?
Speaker 2No?
Okay, that's the job.
Speaker 4When because I wanted to say, man, you got the blackest fingers I've ever seen, Nigga, you got trick daddy fingers.
Speaker 2They're similar to the paint in the eye.
Okay, he might be cousins to.
Speaker 5Shame, might be God on fu sha be your raided shall be stereotype.
Speaker 2I can't walk all over you.
Speaker 5After I saw with the year he got the die your bollic Cole, I know when it's preemitated.
Speaker 2That was, that was, that was, That's what we do.
Speaker 5That's what the fact, that's only in the black of me.
He said, you know whatever you want to use the Euro Joe, it's over, yo.
Speaker 2You'a motherfucker's plant that one that ship, buddy Evan.
No agree with the Euro lady, No, I agree with you.
That's it was crazy, man.
It was the euro Yo.
I looked at the gotta set up a celebrity game.
Let me just say, Harry.
Speaker 5All I care about besides God and family and health into them.
So even if I gotta laugh my way at myself to the bank, I laughed.
Speaker 2And to answer you, I went to the Beacon Theater.
Speaker 5I'm sure you you you've been there before, right, And it was I think it's Joe Torre.
But I was late and the worst thing you could ever do is walk in the comedy show late.
Speaker 2And the man caught me.
He wouldn't let go.
Speaker 3He was like, he was like, yo, firs, that's one of my worst fids though, like they beat put the spotlight on you like Reggie and right none he professor, Yo, this guy.
Speaker 2Care me up in real life.
Speaker 5Let me say, lock of my necklace got Frank's Joe, he got a good send the twenty on me and I'm still sitting down trying to play it off, laughing and the whole fucking beat when is laughing at me, he kept going.
Speaker 2Joe's one of the dudes.
Him and D.
L.
Speaker 4Hewley, who I studied in terms of going all right, telling jokes is one thing, but there's certain aspects to the game.
Speaker 2Crowd work, and Joe is fishes.
Speaker 4Joe once told the dude he said something about his mother, and the guy goes, hey, man, don't talk about my mother.
Speaker 2She dad, And Joe said, I'll give funk.
Speaker 4I'll dig the bitch up prop up against the tree so I can talk about it small.
Speaker 2Oh god, whoa it was in his own town.
Yeah, I mean it's driven ship like that's a little bit too much.
Speaker 4Listen, when when something, when the heckler, when the motherfuckers drunk and heckling you.
There's no such thing as too much, because drunk people turn into suicide bombers.
Speaker 2They're not afraid to die.
So it's gonna be you and me.
I mean, man, that's that's a lot of humor right there.
Speaker 5To hand bro when he fucked me up, he said he could squeeze the donut out my forehead.
Speaker 2He was gonna crayhamn in front of all you just stay did for that.
Speaker 5I had to, man, I gotta be a good sport if I walk out.
That's that's like the guy, you know, the guy, the CEO guy who is with the side piece up at the cold play if he don't run away, and he.
Speaker 2Staid, there, I ain't calling him like that, and the cook just finished the concert off.
No no, no.
If he's started to just say with obvious.
Speaker 3Exactly like he was.
Speaker 2Having to work meeting running away.
Speaker 5Man should have stayed in today, would have been a normal white guy with normal white girl.
Speaker 2Stated it would have been better than him trying to dunk in the old ship.
You fuck this old ship up, That's what I'm trying to say, Joe Torrey got me.
Oh you say you gotta hand do the shit?
Sit down?
You know?
Yeah you fat fu?
No, tor can't you run run out of that ship?
Is even worse you done whatever they said.
You had an encounterment with the dog backstage in l A E M X oh ship.
Oh man, Uh yeah.
This was back when you know, comedy albums was the thing.
Speaker 4And so I went to the jay Z concert at the Staples Center and everybody in the back, you know, bus Rhyme's stoopid.
Speaker 2I was trying to get people to hold up the album and be like, yo, support my man.
Speaker 4Did so I saw X and I was like, yo, let me And so I go into the liver, into the locker room and there's one entrance in, one entrance out.
Fifteen niggas came in there behind him, and then the security comes in, slams the door and stands in front of the door, and I'm like, hey, I was just wondering if you could do some joint my dog my voice, I don't know I heard you.
You know what I mean by my voice?
If it's good, yeah, if it's not.
Let me tell you something, man, I've been.
Speaker 2I've been.
Speaker 4I've been black my whole life.
I grew up you know, I didn't grow up in the projects, but I grew up poor.
And Uh, this how I knew where my level of blackness ended.
Speaker 2Uh.
Speaker 4This nigga was talking to me, and at one point he pulls the razor blade from under his tongue, and that's the first time I saw that.
And I'm like, how is this nigga talking not cutting himself?
And I went, yeah, my nigga, don't understand.
Yo, my nigga, I'm black up to a point.
Speaker 2That was it.
Speaker 5Let me tell you something, your man DMX.
The stories I got about DMX, he probably got more.
He was down with him, But yo, d m X, man, he was the trip.
He was a real, real trip.
Speaker 2He did Man TV.
He was the real deal DM Man Man TV.
Yeah, I played his mother.
Speaker 4We did a skit when he off the road and I'm in the grand outfit with the gray hair and the glasses, with the chain with times on, and so he said, Yoman, the's bitches, and I mean, they don't theyn't let me fight for me, earl, you know what I mean.
And I was like, your son, Blacks, you're gonna talk about these hosts.
So it's just me and him going.
Speaker 2Back and the.
Speaker 5Like, Yeah, I thought of this crazy story.
Right, it's gonna lead to a question for me.
That's crazy, that's insane.
It's insane one right, but it's the truth.
It's uncapable.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 5So I got a friend, right, he passed away.
We used to call him Joe Bentley because he owned so many Well we go to Miami.
We used to have all these drop top Bentley.
This guy had too many Bentleys, like the Italian dude.
Speaker 2Too much?
Speaker 5Right, he said he died, right, But I'm just telling you this story because I thought about it on the way here.
Speaker 2I was like, who would be?
Speaker 5But anyway, so this guy must have been the original capper because you know everything I say is true.
These people just ain't having an incredible life like you, so they can't they can't comprehend the shit I'll be saying.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 5So this man was the bigger capper than me.
So every time he was so rich, but every time he would tell me stories, I'd be like full of shit.
Told me he used to fuck sit Share.
One day, he picks me up in my house in Miami, pulls up to Star Island, Share, opens the door and the boost DA and this name the ass walks it.
Speaker 2Shit, you can't believe, right.
Speaker 5So the man tells me that when OJ Simpson was in the Bronco, he was in the airport with the private that OJ Simpson is this man right, he was the one waiting for him, for him and the A C Green to come on a private breakout.
This guy he's telling me our counts.
But the point is the man telling me all this shit the whole time.
I know your friendy, I know he's I know, he's my man, filthy rich with the ship.
Speaker 2He was telling me.
I could not believe right.
Speaker 5So one days his wife's birthday and he says, yo, we're throwing His wife is named the Cole Joe Bentley.
Speaker 2His wife is named the.
Speaker 5Co So he says, Yo, we're throwing her birthday party in my other house up and like where Trump lives, Palm.
Speaker 2Beach and some shit we pull up.
This shit got white horses, or it's just the guy had too much money.
Speaker 5Right, I go with the terror squad, Me, Remmy, Pistol, p This is why I got witnesses with this one.
Speaker 2We going there.
O J.
Speaker 5Simpson is in the house, so Remmy and Pistol starts smoking blunts with him.
They having the best time with Ojson.
He was smoking smoking joint blunts with Remmy and Pistol.
Right, Remmy says she even got a picture of that.
Right, so I go go like he's murdered two people smoking blunts is easy, You're right.
The moral to the story is when it came down to cut the cake, Happy birthday, Nicoll, Joe Bentley puts the machete in oj OJ's hand.
He said, you did it, nigga, you did it, and oj start chasing him around the house with the fucking knife.
Speaker 2Somebody got you gotta get an animator and turn these stories tell it.
Speaker 5I shout out to mister Comodore, mister Comradore, just a ready start.
Speaker 2You seen the shit he did?
Speaker 5He did it like when I robbed the Jimmy played it over his white face with blonde hair, fat belly out.
He's doing this, Charlie Murphy.
But listen what I'm saying.
O J starts chasing him around the house with the knife.
Speaker 2He said, you did it, man, you did it.
The fucking who would be the O J.
Speaker 5Simpson of twenty twenty five if somebody killed they wife or something like that?
Speaker 2Who are you the fuck?
Who?
Who is stopped TV?
Talking about?
Who would stop TV if they was in the.
Speaker 5White bronco chasing them they might have allegedly killed their wife in twenty twenty five?
Who's the celebrity, any celebrity?
And he at no, you know that's that's murder and fame.
So you think any celebrity would would have the TV going crazy?
Yeah, so you ain't got one pick?
Oh J wasn't even a big celebrity when that shit happened.
Speaker 2He just was OJ.
Speaker 5My pick is Tiger Woods.
Because you got a white girl.
It gotta be a white girl right to make this shit go crazy and white people.
Speaker 2It is comfortable.
I thought he had a question.
I do.
Here's the question.
The question is I was setting him up.
Speaker 5Who's the old jail Who's twenty twenty five celebrity did some allegedly did some.
Speaker 2Ship like that?
Who with every channel turned on to hey, anybody that killed two?
Speaker 4But when you said, when you say that element, now you're talking about the white girl, is it?
Does it have to be that element?
Speaker 5No, I'm just thinking about how crazy it's Will Smith from slap to murder?
Speaker 2Will Smith running this crazy?
Are you?
Oh?
No, you're fighting?
Jazz is driving Jessy and he got the j He's DJing while he's driving, and.
Speaker 3As he's driving us in West Philadelphia born and raided.
Oh because I'm thinking Tiger boys got the white wife.
He's golf The white people watch golfing because the white people love oh j That's what made it so crazy.
Speaker 4Righty, it's twenty twenty five.
Black men murdering white women don't have the same cachet.
Speaker 2Yeah, yo, yo yo.
The diffuse of this Saint Yo is out of control.
Let's let me tell you one of the funniest story ever heard.
Speaker 4Niggas leg the Mike Tyson Eve at the awards and he was like, Yo, you gotta take the base off the boys.
Speaker 2Chell, Mike Chick dad ship.
I told him what story?
I don't know that story.
Speaker 3Well, one day Mike was talking crazy to Eve, like what crazy out of this world?
Great like picture I'll eat your kids and not like that.
It was not like that, but no, he was saying.
Speaker 2Mike's saying that crazy ship to him.
Speaker 3You must have lifted like a stake instead of you know when you see he was gonna suck you up.
Speaker 2Listen, listen to the story.
Know when it's you.
Speaker 3See something and you say something something in your mind.
He was doing that, but it wasn't in his mind.
He was just whatever he was taking.
He was saving me and me styles and loops like somebody got to somebody got to be the crash dummy.
Speaker 2Then we got a hawk, somebody got to get the horde.
Hit him, bro, and then we're gonna halt matter.
Speaker 3That gone dawn and we did twenty first fingers about twenty million times.
Speaker 2Nobody wanted to take the first hit.
But Mike was telling her that crazy shit.
Speaker 3I want to tell you, I want to He was saying that crazy ship to it and we did that the remy.
But we was in his house after she shot the girl before.
Speaker 2That's that's after she elect that's before she elected shot the girl.
I turned out.
Speaker 5Saucy opened the door, asked man, Jerry, she can't do you opened the door, asked naked, And I was like, am I hearing that?
Speaker 6No?
No?
Speaker 2See your Mica all right is doing that?
Speaker 5Yo, you gotta have heart to tell Mike Tyson like, yo, my man, throw the top one man like and I'm with some allegedly got out though.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 5He was like, yo, Joe, you know this is the boxes.
We were like, yo, my man, you gotta stop.
Then we're gonna side.
And the type of things he was telling remby mo, I felt pussy if I didn't like like address it, like I have to be like.
Speaker 2Your mic h that might have to be around the same demon shoes losing his fucking mind.
Fu, yo, y Mike is crazy.
He was like, yo, Joe.
Speaker 5You know he showed me a brand new Bens.
It was like a five money some brand new ship never drove.
Speaker 2He was like, yo, you just leave her head.
You got the bends, you know.
The ship was crazy.
Like I was like Yo, my maid.
He was looking at me.
Speaker 5Remmy's eyes looked at me, her eyes open so big.
She was like, nigga, you better not leave me in this fucking place.
I think a brother was with us too.
Everybody was looking like yo, like, we're gonna have to, like pound Mike Tyson out we get We have no pause, no choice, We're gonna have to like it's nothing we can do.
Like he was like, Yo, showed us the brand new ben shit was like one hundred and fifty two hundred.
Nobody even had that shit right then.
They still have to stick to we was like, ah, she gotta go with us, my d man.
No, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 2Man.
Oh, it takes a lot of courage.
Speaker 5It's almost like a guy at the movies with his girl and they wrap it to this girl and they disrespect this girl from him as they tend deep.
You know you're gonna get your ass.
But a lot of these guys are cowards.
They won't defend their wife or or they girl of shit like that.
But the guy that does, he gets the beats.
Speaker 2Well.
Speaker 4Sometimes the girls are the reason why they're get in the situations because she get maud and start doing a whole bunch of extra shit.
Speaker 2Who you beat that.
Let me tell you something.
My wife used to force me.
This is when we used to have one hundred guys.
You're a real nigga.
Take me to the club tonight by yourself.
You don't need the crew.
This this that I go to the.
Speaker 5Club, I see the guys we beat up the night before one hundred d and I'm like, there you go, you got it.
Speaker 2This the shit you want it?
Speaker 5Remember I told you about the shit happened yesterday that stump one hundred D one nigg Your man's a realist.
Speaker 2There you go, you got it, baba, no problem this this that.
Then we always got away from that.
But you know, she used to test me like that.
Speaker 5You know what I'm saying, like, Yo, you got to come up in there by yourself.
This this that you know, Yeah, the woman could definitely talk.
You went to some shit.
Speaker 4Yeah we'll so with your podcast it's called Spears and Steinberg uh bailable or all streaming platform.
Speaker 2You got a Jewish guy, which yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4The game money the money, Uh check out the YouTube channel Spisburg Pod hit like and subscribe.
And I always tell people, look, we like six hundred and seventy nine episodes, and start from the beginning because when you it's like, you know, you get it said, chance to hit the jokes, the evolution of the characters.
I do you know, callbacks and uh it's like uh massturbation and potato chips.
Speaker 2Once you start, you won't stop.
Binge.
Yeah, I mean it's binge.
Man.
Speaker 5You know why he is just making big money with this ship?
Is the country Wane they said on Facebook?
Yeah, he got a choke hole over there, Maber.
I called you that Tom Dove is is she does my all social media and I called it and I was like, yo, I heard that dude is clearing.
Speaker 2Checks over there in Facebook.
Speaker 4Yeah, I mean you know this this If you know how to finagle this ship, there's money in it.
So and I'm kind of just on the cusper figuring that out.
Speaker 2You know.
When you get it though, that ship is a oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4So And also slide into my DMS and Instagram and I'll chop it up with you and send you the links Spears and Steinberg.
Speaker 2I like that.
And you're on tour right now too.
Yeah, all year round.
I hardly ever get a break, right too.
Man?
Speaker 5What about you work a lot too, Like I find myself not being able to truly enjoy my peace because I'm always thinking about all right, Thursday we out to Vegas.
Uh, then Saturday we in Canada.
Like how do you do it's the same way through your week.
Or you don't care, you just know that shit's on your mind.
You gotta it's constantly thinking about you.
Speaker 2Can't really just ship rest some shit today.
Speaker 3They say you're gonna make time for you, So you're gonna make' gonna make some time.
Speaker 4But wherever you go sometimes is it like because for me, it's like sometimes if I go if I'm going to Miami, I'm going to Vegas, New York, that's like a vacation.
Speaker 2But if I got to go to Mississippi, Oh Street word, man, I just like niggas and red Yo.
Speaker 5Listen, man, I went to North Dakota last week.
You've been to North Dakota.
Ass pussy value go down in certain parts of the country.
I don't even call Miami Miami.
I call it me Mommy, Mommy, Florida baby Me, Mommy.
Them women out there dressed like they don't like their fathers.
One thing in Miami is day in shape.
Yeah, in shape, and everybody works out over there, like everybody.
So the minute you driving down the street, it's like no other place.
The minute you driving, you know, everybody got their workout clothes on.
The dude just cocked these who they running around like.
You know, Miami is definitely all about their appearance and stuff like that.
So you know, my, mommy, mommy, I'm gonna ask you one last question.
When is the one time you stepped in ship and you just said holy shit?
Speaker 2Comedically?
Oh that's easy.
Speaker 3Uh.
Speaker 4We ended the first that death comedy Jam tour the Garden And at that time, before the clip that I did eventually that went viral fourteen million, I was at the radio station in San Francisco and I did.
Speaker 2Some went viral back then.
No no, no, no no no.
Speaker 4I'm talking about later after this moment and I did a jay z DMX snoop rapping and it went viral.
Speaker 2But before this the Garden, I didn't write I didn't write it down.
I just thought I'm gonna wing it.
I'm gonna just just go off the head.
And this is why you go.
You have to have respect for what you do.
I bomb so horrifically.
Speaker 4And as I'm walking past Kid Capri's table, dudes just standing over there at the DJ booth and one of them goes, I don't know if they said it on purpose so I can hear it or just the timing.
He was like, man, that niggas got it.
And I had to walk back from the garden to the hotel.
Sherifdan on fifty seven.
I felt like Will Smith and I am legend.
There was no cause to help people.
Speaker 2It was just lonely.
Speaker 4It was me by myself.
It was the loneliest walk.
It's like change don't come.
Speaker 2And that's what I went.
You know what, dude, you gotta respect this shit.
Speaker 4So I smoked the blunt and I and I wrote and I just I wrote the lyrics out and cut to that's when I did it at the radio station and it went viral.
Speaker 8Yeah, you know what he just reminded me in this podcast, there's certain guys you can't really big up like that, right, So there's some people I big up and they and they try to diss me, like kick the Pree.
Speaker 2I call him one of my top five.
It wasn't good enough.
He's on this Discraunt we gotta discuss this.
Speaker 5This is this.
Speaker 2I see the Matt Raids John's funeral.
I say, yo, kid, I can't even beg you up, Like I can't even beg you up.
Speaker 5I call you my the number one on my top five, and you still got a problem with it.
Speaker 2You on your Instagram like, yo, we got to talk about it.
Speaker 5I'm like, you care, I can't be There's certain guys I'm realizing on this podcast and you can't even big them up because somehow that turns into how we gonna turn this into some other shit?
Speaker 2Right?
I mean, I gotta act because now just hit me.
I gotta ask you a question.
Speaker 4So when most people go there's dudes that do battle rap like Loaded Bucks and Murder Move.
Speaker 2For some reason, a lot of battle rappers can't make successful albums.
Speaker 4And then I'm going and they also but well, a lot of guys that are successful in making albums can't battle rap, and I go, when you think about a guy like Jada, one of the hardest MC's ever, if you had the battle rap, like you.
Speaker 2Know, I can't do that for real?
I think I mean I could, but I can't.
They possessed a special thing with that that's what that's they and.
Speaker 3I mean matter of fact, I might could and they might be able to make classic albums.
Is just once the people start saying, YO know, the battle rap niggas can't make good albums.
Speaker 2You know the regular things can't be battle I maybe can't.
Speaker 3If you pushed me to the min or, the bag was out it because they never say who win the look whoever you just the win or to lose.
It is up to the individual's ears.
Like they never just put a thing up Arie fifty rounds kids, three raps, just say you was there or you watched the link you come outside of Your man might think you one other man might think I won.
So if the baggage right and is no, all you gotta do is win a good round and a half.
Speaker 2I think that.
I think that was get around and a half up?
You could be I meany rounds?
Is it three?
But is it is?
It's really all of that ship.
Speaker 3They can keep starting over in order to come back with the other I don't.
Speaker 2I should take a lot of practice.
Speaker 3I would have to go to the I have to go into campus see from the outside looking in, and just as a fan, you just go, you know, I could do it.
Speaker 4I probably could, but I ain't going to just step out there and say.
And then my question to you, Joe is.
Speaker 2I want to help answer that too.
Okay, but let me ask you this.
Speaker 4I would think like, if there's so much potential money and what if they were to set up like a pay per view and go, we would love to see Eminem versus Jada fabulous verse another MC like that.
And that never happens really, except with the versus thing that just happened because of COVID.
Speaker 5The thing I'm trying to tell you is to be careful with fifty cent in them, you know is no, I'm just trying to tell you.
Speaker 2Were talking about are you this hip hop thing right?
Speaker 5It's could well the guys to get the most respect they have unscathed.
Speaker 2Resumes.
Speaker 5So nobody ever robbed Fat Joe, nobody ever beat Fat Joe up, Nobody with all the guys ever beefed with, they never got one up right.
Fifties part of that frame of thought where no one gets one up on him, right, So you gotta understand these guys got these type of like egos where they not trying to take no type of hell.
So with the battle ap ain't no professional rapper like a professor.
You might find a fragio star, you might find one of them, you ain't gonna find a top tier rapper trying to battle for any amount of money.
Speaker 2Jada against eminem distance.
Speaker 5They're not doing that shit because nobody once that blemish on the record, you know.
Speaker 2And it's the same way street wise with rappers.
Once you catch that L and you.
Speaker 5On video, Look they look, they were terrified at this night till they seen them get beat up one time and they had them on film.
After that, they were trying to rush them everywhere he went Arizona.
These people were so terrified at so once they see you catch that L somewhere, whether it's battle Way or whatever the case may be, Oh good luck walking around the same way you walk around.
Now let me let me go back to that original question.
The truth is, there's a lot of artists out there.
They don't know how to make a hit record.
Don't ask me why.
There's a lot of artists out there they don't know how to make a hit hook.
Don't ask me why.
There's a lot of artists out there that don't know how to change their flows there's a lot of artists out there is considered the greatest lyricists of all time that never could pick a good beat.
Speaker 2Don't know why.
It's like, well, you you come to comedy.
They got to be like a chamber.
Speaker 5Does he rock the crowd or does he say funny shit on the spot?
Does he have premeditated ship this, there's a there's a criteria for some reason.
Speaker 2Everybody's not born with that chamber, with every single chamber.
And I watched it.
I mean the greatest you know, if you want me to say a name, which is not right.
Speaker 5But there's been some of the greatest guys that we considered the greatest rappers of all time that didn't know how to pick the beat or didn't know how to really make a hit, and so some of them kid under the claw of I'm underground.
You know, I'm underground.
I don't really want to make a hit, you know, I don't really want that kind of success.
Speaker 2I don't.
I don't this, but that that end of the day.
Speaker 5I think rappers like I started out underground, digging in the crates.
I think it shows growth if you're able to make a song like who shot You?
And then do a what's love?
Speaker 2You know what I mean?
Speaker 5And me, I used to tell all my crew digging in the crates, I used to tell them more of y'all came in here to be a superstar.
Speaker 2I did not come in here to just be underground.
Speaker 5Not pointing them out in any way, but just saying, there's artists that just can't do everything, and there's some artists that haven't had the luck like you.
You beyond talented.
Everybody knows you beyond talented.
You just ain't have no Adam Sandler in your corner.
You just ain't have no like like you know, you ain't have somebody with that type of power to say this is the guy you know, So you similar to us.
You gotta fight your way to where you got your spot.
Were still fighting on the greatest side from you that I loved.
It was at that time when you said, uh, what's everybody so mad at the south Wall?
Switch up your style?
Switch to south Wall?
I was thinking about that today.
That was me and he bowed.
Speaker 2I was Jada.
I was listening.
That's my region, that's my love, Google yo Ja, We'll be right back after this commercial rank hold up.
Speaker 9I followed everybody so mad at the south Fork, learn how to switch your style up and go southball say it, but you open your mouth for better reason for me to just open your scout more up.
Speaker 2Man, that's me.
Man, let's not get this.
I mean, we ain't got all time.
It's no no, no no.
Speaker 5But I gave you that shout out no yeah on a super smash ship breck Aga.
But that's it's visually who came from thugging out?
Then he threw it on on this once again the crossover.
Let me explain saying to you right.
The point I was making right is at that time everybody borrow No I didn't.
Speaker 2I'm just making sure he I didn't know where it came from.
He might have set me up with that ship.
I would have gotten this face.
I would have gotten you.
You're the only person that I heard say that.
Speaker 5It was a little underground and was it my ship was smash No.
But I still gave him the prom shade.
Speaker 2I was listening.
I don't care.
Speaker 3I'm like, but it being the biggest song, I just don't You're not gonna deprive me and being a part of it.
Speaker 2So but I did big he gave me.
I love you.
Speaker 5That's a big breaford making brain.
But let me explain something to you, right, I traveled around the whole country.
Speaker 2I did this thing.
Speaker 5I think it was for bud Light, and then every city to starve the city basketball player would come out.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 5So if it was Memphis, it was Zach Randolph at the time.
If it was Philly, AI and now we would host everyone.
But I noticed that the whole entire country, from the East to the Midwest, to the West to the South, we're only playing down South music in the club.
One time New York created hip hop.
That was no longer that we was not running the game.
The West took it.
We wasn't running it.
South took over the game to the point of I gotta be deaf, dumb, and blind to be sitting in the hottest club with the hottest ball player not to notice this shit unchanged on us.
You can't come with the boom back and think you're gonna pop one off.
It just wasn't working at that time.
The DJ got to spend with fl fluidity the same shit, this rocket, So the d he ain't playing nothing but the down South shit.
Speaker 2So I'm in Memphis and the guy goes and says, let's throw it back.
He throws on the rock Buildings in the Building to night.
Oh the problem with that was that was actually number one at that time.
Speaker 5He said, the throwback, the throwback of the day rock building in the Building to Night.
Speaker 2Is because they're so used to hearing nothing but the.
Speaker 5Dirty South winning all day that even though that record was the hottest shit out, they called it the throwback.
Speaker 2Same with New York.
New York was really really cocky.
Speaker 5I remember there was a time when New York you listen to Hot ninety seven and they'd be like, yo, what's playing outside of the Five Boroughs?
Speaker 2And they'd be like, these are my confessions.
Speaker 5And they had that shit in the choko to where they wasn't playing that.
So according to it, to the line, why are you bad at the city, you gotta switch to South for you know how many New York.
Speaker 3Rappers was which nigga's shit it No, no, because at first they get mad at you.
Speaker 5You figure it out, you get upset, Yo, he get into the bag.
The nigga made it dawn South here.
That's what's ringing right now.
So all my New York colleagues furious, I'm reading the Sauce magazine.
Oh I could he rhyme on something like this this next thing?
I know everybody's everybody's the ate away rocking like this.
But they was dumb mad at me.
When I first did make it ring.
They were like, yo, how you can rap on that?
And then everybody is just a new norm.
Then New York starts sounding like the Dirty South.
To be honest with you, if you're.
Speaker 2Gonna keep it a buck because they were like, yo, we got to make one of these.
Speaker 4So in other words, being that he was the originator, it's like you Elvis Presley did it, but he was Big Mama Thornton.
Speaker 2I guess so I begged the boy you know who Big Mama.
No she she wrote, uh not but a hound a right, wow, just took it, you know.
Speaker 5But no, she's the real Well he spit a bar.
He didn't write my song, brother, be clear.
He spit a bar, you know, and that ship went, you know, make it ring one of them classic coals.
Don't get it fucked up.
Speaker 2Just this cry.
It is the first line of the first verse.
Speaker 5Young motherfucker kid kids, I'm going to hire a comedian behind the scenes.
Speaker 2I might hire you give me some Jadakis jokes because this guy ship you tried and you lost.
I though you tried, you tried forty eight hours, tried.
He was unsuccessful.
You try, You talked about how black ship.
Speaker 7Don't know that ship was.
Speaker 2You got the base, that was it.
That was a odd that was a draw, that was a draw, that was more and one, but that was off the top.
I wouldn't ever.
Speaker 5Ask you for directions.
I asked you to get to the Bronx.
She sent me to Kentucky the way you all over the place.
Man, No, he said, I frid But let me tell you something.
He hit you with that ship, right faty, I said, too, shame man.
He gave me my I thought that was a great one.
Speaker 2Dude.
Speaker 4Sometimes when you speak in your regular voice, especially if I've been smoking a lot drinking rasp I get a little raspy.
Speaker 2I've been working on it, you know.
Uh, let's get it, baby.
Speaker 1Congratulations all week one point one maid and the show a week.
Speaker 2So I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
Speaker 4Let me see if my hull up and I ain't animated, like say it buster rhyme to real shit, you kid, when you break down.
My line had that to the fact I'm going plat a bunch of times.
Time sap a mindfluence, some pot coach.
I'm supposed to be number one on everybody list O.
I love you, Tony Soprano.
I used you on the intro to the album.
Speaker 7Fuck of course you didn't you know on the fuck of dal one the guys in the fucking a Diance.
Speaker 2You know what it is.
I've seen you with the fucking euro step.
You're pretty good, yo.
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