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Welcome back to TV Reload today.

On the podcast, I am joined by one of the most talked about housemates of Big Brother Australia twenty twenty five, a woman who dominated the narrative, split the fan base and delivered some of the most compelling reality TV moments of the season.

Holly entered the Big Brother house with confidence, vulnerability and a sharp sense of self I would say, and whether you were cheering her on or yelling at the TV screen, she absolutely has made an impact on the viewers.

In this chat, you will hear Holly open up about the intensity of living with twelve strangers, how it really felt to be under Australia's microscope twenty four to seven, and why she believes compassion was missing inside the house this season.

We will dive into her world win romance with Colin, how it formed, why it was tested, and what's really going on inside Holly's head at the moment since the cameras stopped rolling.

We will unpack that Emily moment about her not being invited to parties, including Holly's own clarity on what she meant and how the situation blew up bigger than she expected.

We also discuss the complicated dynamic with Coco and why looking back at some of the conversations that she had has felt a little painful in retrospect.

Plus, Holly answers my rapid fire questions, including who she thinks is most likely to win and the mysterious girl who ran on stage during the elimination.

We're going to find out exactly who that was and how that all came together.

Holly is, of course articulate, reflective, and surprisingly raw in this interview, especially given that it was recorded fresh this morning and while she is still processing everything that happened in her Big Brother experience.

And I have to say, I genuinely believe when fans look back at this twenty twenty five season, Holly will be one of the faces that we will all remember.

So I'd like to welcome Holly to the podcast.

Hi, how are you?

Good morning?

Hi Holly.

Well, I just want to say, right off the bat, congratulations.

You seriously made an impactful contribution to this season of Big Brother.

Ah, thank you so much.

You know you're easily the most talked about housemate of this season.

Did you feel that that could be the case while you're inside the house?

No, not on the outside world.

On the inside Big Brother House, I definitely felt it because that was what was going on.

I think it's going to transpire to the rest of Australia and the viewers.

No, how are you feeling with it all right now?

Is it all sitting well with you?

What's the emotions that are going through your mind right now?

Honestly, it's been such an incredible experience from start to finish.

It's just it's intense.

I will definitely.

Say that it's a very intense situation that you're put into.

Co living with twelve strangers is not for the faint hearted.

And sitting back upon reflecting, I think it's quite early in the morning here.

So what was the question?

That's the question, Holling, that's actually answering the question.

You know, you were so close to being exempt from nomination this week.

How does that sit with you now that you have been eliminated?

Ah, it is what it is like, it's a game.

People need to remember that, like the whole thing is.

It's a social experiment.

It is a game and that's part of it.

So you know, my time was my time, and I'm a big believer in the universe, so it was my time to thread my wings and whip on out of the house.

Have you had any chance to sort of think about how Australia has interpreted your time inside the house?

What do you think the public got right and what do you think they got wrong?

I would just like people to not, you know, judge your book by its cover, and just remember the word compassion.

It goes a long way.

I think if we.

Had had some compassion in that, a little bit more compassion in the house towards one another, the experience could have been a little bit more enjoyable.

From my own perspective, I can't speak for the others because obviously I don't know what goes through their minds.

However, that's my take on it, and.

I think that, you know, for the people at home, please remember that it is a social experiment, and it is twenty four to seven, twenty four seven.

I'm repeating that it is all day, every day.

The lights on the cameras are on you, you forget the cameras are there, then all of a sudden you realize you're there.

It can be a little bit jarring at times.

You don't get a moment's peace.

That's a huge one, even like it might look like we're all chilling by the pool, but that's probably when we're in our heads the most.

And from an outsider, it's really easy to sit back and jarge and think, oh, this person's like this because these people are saying that, but realize that that's twelve random people living in a house.

They don't know you, you know.

So that's why I kind of take it with a grain of salt.

The fact that people wanted to make everything I did into such a big deal, whether it be eating an almond half a result, whatever it was, it was you know, amplified because little things do become big things in the situation like that.

It's one big hot pop pressure cooker, and at the end of the day, that's what makes the show so iconic.

So, you know, Big Brother really brought his a game for twenty twenty five, and I'm just grateful that I was able to be a part of the experience and learn as much as I have in the past three weeks.

It's insane because one day truly does feel like four in that place.

I always said the conversion of Big Brother is one day, and there is like a week.

A week is like an and a month it is like a year.

So that's you know, I did ninety seven days inside the Big Brother House, and so I can tell you that getting close to four months, you start to really lose your shit, holly.

Insane.

We did discuss this on the show, like how long it went for, and we were all just like, what the actual hell?

Red my?

You guys so much for that, because that takes.

A lottular I really really admire that because I feel like it would be you know, there'd be so many peaks and valleys in that situation.

So well done to you.

You know, one of the hottest topics at the moment is your connection with Colin, and it would be remissive me not to ask you a very specific question, what are your true feelings when it comes to Colin.

Colin is an exceptional individual and I couldn't be more proud of him.

He speaks from his heart, he wears his heart on his sleeve, as do I, and he is a very sweet boy, sorry sweetheart, and I'm just you know, very blessed.

We say blessington to have met him under such I don't want to say strange, but such an unexpected person to come into my life.

I meet people all the time, and you know the fact that we met in the Big Brother House with all the scrutiny, with everything that we sort of copped, but it.

Kind of brought us closer together.

And every time we had a little disagreement or a tearful you know, it got stressful with a challenge or something like that.

The fact that we.

Were actually a to sit there communicate how we felt sorry, communicate how we felt to one another really dictated the future of how it progressed, because we could have got in, you know, four or five days and been like, sorry, this isn't working, like let's go back.

To being friends, or I don't want to bar of you, let's sleep on other sides of the room.

You of all people would know how stressful that place can get at moments, and especially when there's other housemates talking about things behind your back.

You know, it's hard to trust people in there.

But he honestly just made me feel so comfortable and I could be myself around him, and that's something that's very special to me.

Why do you think that people are judging whether or not you have true feelings for him though, because everyone's thinking he has feelings for you.

But the general consensus from the public was that they were doubting how you truly felt about it.

I think that people are entitled to their own opinions, and the people that opinions matter to me.

It's really only colins, because the one that sees me speaks to me, and he.

Knows what comes out of you know of my mouth, what I'm feeling, how it's going.

But also the fact that people, you know, judged it so hard from the start and were so shocked, I think is because I hide my emotions as women tend to Men are a lot more expressive, sometimes especially under pressure, So you know, I'm more guarded with my feelings.

It doesn't mean that they're not there.

It just means that I don't really particularly feel safe enough to vocalize that to the entire house, to the entire world, to everybody else.

It's something that's very personal to me, and I think, you know, it's two people in a relationship.

It doesn't need to be everyone else.

And that's what was annoying me in the house was the fact that everyone was talking about it so much.

They would not stop talking about every single day.

Things are getting blown more and more out of proportion, and I'm sure you can relate to the fact that little things become big things very quickly in there, you know, so as it was like a concentrated from the get go, And I think because we had to defend ourselves so hard, we had more intense conversations and we would have had if we were you know, just met at Beach Road in Bonda, which I can't wait to take in there.

It's going to be so fun.

I'd love to see where you take this relationship.

But you know what's funny, Holly, even talking to you now, you have this very sharp self awareness at times where you really have a way of being able to assess a situation and sum it up.

But then other times in the house, it seemed that you could be a little bit oblivious to some of your behavior.

Is that a Big Brother thing or do you think that's a wholly everyday thing?

Different personalities and perspectives, and that's definitely the beauty of the Big Brother House.

I think with me, it's hard because I like exactly right sometimes they can be self aware and other times.

I just don't see it.

And that's if you know me and my friends like they know that about me.

I can be so I switched on with something and then totally oblivious to other things that are going on.

And it's probably because that's how my brain.

Works human as well.

Yeah, hyper focused maybe on something.

I can't do everything.

My brain has a bandwidth, and you know, so I might be really you know, focusing on something because that's where my brain's taking me.

Therefore, I'm not seeing another perspective.

And in real life that happens, and I do get blindsided and things do come off the way that it's not meant to be because I'm so focused on something else or I'm focused on preventing something else from happening that I missed seeing something else happen.

It's like maybe crossing the road looking left right, but not looking left again and then getting hit by a car.

So that's kind of a good way to explain some things that you know sort of transpired.

I want to unpack something with you very quickly about this Emily moment, and it's probably something you know the media is going to keep bringing out this question.

But you made a comment about her being the type of girl who would not get invited to parties, and then you denied that it had ever happened.

Are you able to add some clarity to that?

Like I did, And I've already spoken about this with some of the eliminated housemates that I was curious as to whether or not you knew and then just decided not to admit it, or whether you just didn't tell it that way.

I think like I didn't say what I meant.

I simply wanted to give her an amazing experience that she deserves.

And you know she donated the pizza to everybody after saying Pepperoni was her favorite.

She organized the surprise party for us all.

I simply just wanted her to hang out and have a good time with all of us.

There was That's another thing.

It's been blorn way out of proportion.

And like I'm a Perth girl.

EM's a Perth girl, and you know we've had conversations and we'll have conversations, but it purely came out of a place of love.

And like with the Blindside, that did completely blindside me when I when I went.

Through that, because I really respect.

Em, and I only ever wanted her to really have a good night that night.

There was no mal in ten or anything towards you.

Know, that situation at all.

I feel like it was blown out, was blown out.

Of proportion, and that maybe it could have been brought to my attention in a different way with less sort of aggravation.

But at the same time, I'll reiterate the fact that it is a social experiment and it's very tough in there, and sometimes people just need to say their piece necessarily mean what they say, and that's an exact it's on both sides.

Do you see what I'm saying?

I get it.

I get it, And I've defended you in this conversation in this topic with other people because I can see where you're coming from.

You thank you, Oh Marjorie Ben.

You have no idea how much I appreciate that, because it really was that.

And I feel like the more people have been able to get to know me, everyone's sort of saying that they can see how that happened, and I just feel like, yeah, it's a lot in there, and sometimes words do come out the wrong way, and when you do sort of have you know, different sort of learning processes to other people, like we all, you know, learn differently and we all have our things, so sometimes compassion can go a long way.

Do you know What was really interesting to me was that I felt like your relationship with Coco was sort of like a rollercoaster.

It was very up and down, and some of her ways in which she interacted with you could sometimes be quite different to when you were not in the room, and she would have very dramatic reactions to some of the things that you did.

How do you see that relationship with co co existing outside of the Big Brother House?

Can you imagine the two of you being friends or the whole.

Coco situation is really hard for me to talk about because it hurts a lot.

So I feel as though, like the conversations that we had behind my back were really not called for, and I didn't appreciate them.

I also didn't clock that they were happening until a lot later on in the show as it progressed.

So the sort of ups and downs you saw were probably just like moments of when, like I noticed, sometimes she would feel guilty because I think she was saying stuff about me, and then we'd come back and sort of play nice.

Well, we saw that, Holly, we watched that unfold, you know, so I think it's very it's interesting that you were picking up on that.

I've run out of time and I just have three rapid questions because I finished the podcast with it's have to be very fast with this.

And also I'd love to circle back with you and talk to you once you've had some time to think about all of this.

This is a very high pressure situation coming out of the house and having these sort of questions thrown at you.

And I respect you in that headspace that you're in right now, and I appreciate that.

But what I would like to say is who do you think the smartest person was in the house?

Connor, without a doubt, is a walking encyclopedia about that he can just spare is just remarkable.

Who do you think is going to win Big Brother?

Is that Connor as well?

So I had to.

Say, I feel like all the gloves are off in the house now, like everyone will just be the energy in there.

Like I think I picked a great time to be.

A vig Did I still think that you know what They're going to struggle without you?

You brought so much to this show.

I always finish my podcast with it behind the scenes question.

I'm going to ask this one.

It's very specific, it's very short.

Who was the girl that ran on stage at the elimination?

People are saying, it's your niece, it's someone you knew.

People saying it was a pr stunt, Like who was that girl?

She was a sweet little lady called Lola, And she had tears in her eyes and she was just bursting into tears and she was reaching out for a hug, and she was only a few meters away from me, and just why not give her a hug?

She said she voted for me and all her school friends cared so much, and I was not expecting that.

Trust me, it was really not expecting that at all.

I don't think Australia was expecting it either.

I think Australia was also very shocked by it.

Well, you know what, I do have a big heart, despite what people think.

I think children are so special and they always speak their mind.

So, you know, seeing her crying like that, I couldn't help but just want to give her a hug and tell her to stop crying, because it was going to make me cry and my motes were already right there, so you know, it's a lot to go through, but just seeing her beautiful face through the crowd, I just wanted her to stop crying and enjoy it at the moment.

And yeah, it was I'm the lucky one there.

Like, she was just such a sweetheart.

She waited for me backstay, we had a photo.

She's just like, you know, I respect that.

You know, raw emotion is something that you know, she should be celebrated.

Holly.

I have to say, what an amazing I want to reiterate that, what an amazing contribution you brought to Big Brother.

I think when people think of this season for years to come, they'll always think of you, and I think that's a huge achievement.

You really were raw and honest and you were yourself and that makes an incredible housemate.

So thank you for that.

Very kind of you to say, I appreciate all the positivity because that's what I'm here for.

Absolutely, absolutely, will you enjoy chatting to the media and enjoy this whole experience.

It's going to be a big write I can imagine.

Yeah, thank you so much.

It's a roller coaster.

It's a roller coaster.

That's what everyone says.

And it's nice to creak to someone who's got the experience.

I appreciate that.

Anyway, look after yourself.

Well, we'll have to circle back and talk about this over a drink at some point.

I'm sure totally you know where to find me dream world.

Okay, put out to you later on.

Bye bye mate,