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Welcome to the Happy Fools Podcast Christmas Special.

My name is Trevor.

This is episode ninety seven.

Ninety seven ninety ninety seven, Well ninety seven.

How you doing, dude?

Good man?

How are you doing?

That is the sinister spaniard that you hear?

Alfredo?

How are you doing?

Man?

Much new well between our lost podcast and now not a whole lot?

Yeah, I guess it's only been a few days.

I mean, the world's ending or whatever.

But it's fine.

It's ending every every every day that I wake up, it ends.

It's always fucking ending.

You know what's funny?

I think it ends it ends every time I go to sleep.

Yeah, it pauses, it pauses.

Are no, it ends like if you think about it, we're gone, like gone.

Yeah, we're in some other dimension surfing the at least.

Void, at least for me, I'm always aiming to get into the deep red.

I do, especially if I drink or if I eat a nice piece of steak.

Oh, I don't somehow the protein, the protein synthesis.

It's interesting.

I don't drink much, and it makes me worried.

I'm like an MPC or something.

But I don't think so.

I know, I don't think so.

You know, some of us have it, some don't.

Then again, do you have Joseph right, which is like the Ultimate Dreamer where he had a vision and he talked to you when anyway, Yeah, I want to talk to the d MTLs or some angels or something, you know something.

So speaking of angels, it's almost Christmas, man.

Dude, have you put the fallen Angel on top of your Christmas tree or what.

The lightning from heaven the star?

Me?

I did?

I did.

I've got the at the star on top of my Christmas tree.

You know what?

It was crazy?

I got a I got a happy Holidays this morning?

Oh how so at the coffee shop I was with my little son.

I walked in and I got a happy holidays.

Oh nice, and I thought, I was like, God, do I say Marry Christmas?

So I actually I didn't say Mary Christmas.

But I happen to have my phone recording in my pocket.

You know when you go to text, Oh, yes, your recording.

So I actually was able to record the interaction if you want to hear it?

Oh do we want to hear it?

So the briest just says to me, happy Holidays, and then I say, here we go, here we go.

There is no other god but Jesus Christ.

There is no other judge but Jesus Christ.

There is no other way but Jesus Christ.

You cannot escape him.

You got hied from him, you cannot lie to him anyway.

So it was kind of uncomfortable.

This was my bit, This was my Christmas bit.

I kind of messed it up with the intro, but I didn't actually say that.

I said Merry Christmas.

Nice?

Did you get a dirty look?

It was a little awkward for her, for you, or for the person for me, because for everyone I think, uh, there's this comedian who does this bit.

I try to make this Joe last year and it failed.

But he's like, yeah, I don't say Merry Christmas anymore.

You never know how people are going to react to it, you know, so I just say, I just say, you know, may the one true God, Jesus Christ, shine upon your family to the belittlement of all other false religions.

That's funny, dude.

I don't know what's happening, but I'm getting a lot of people knocking on my door, so, you know, trying to promote something that I already know.

You know.

I was cleaning the garage, like the yearly cleaning back in July, and then a father and a daughter approached.

Older older people approached us, and they we were like booking it because you know how it gets hot over here.

So it was around ten.

I was tired because I woke up at five point thirty.

I was tired moving things where we're almost done.

And then these people showed up and they could tell that we were just breaking us and they're like, you know what, We'll come back some other times.

What kind of people?

What are you talking about?

Some I don't know if Jovah Witness some cult m and then they because they left their little pamphlet, you know, and uh, they start busting out in Spanish.

Obviously they kind of knew that we knew how to speak Spanish.

Anyway, they felt so comfortable that apparently they wrote our address in their booklet or notes to come back.

Dude, it's like they're coming back like once a week.

You engaged with them, that's.

Why exactly, so they became from non MPC, from NPC.

To remember who we're talking about.

That, yes, I talked to them.

I involved them anyway.

So I have like a doorbell, and I have like a doorbell, so I pre recorded something so every time I pray, it's a quick response, right because I don't want to be rude.

So now I have little Grandma's approaching and just different types of people, you know.

And so now when I see them coming, I just press and I should I should have it ready for you to hear it.

But it says Jesus.

I I I recorded myself saying Jesus is the way.

Have a nice day.

But don't Jehovah's witnesses think that?

Or no, I don't know what they think, but I'll have to let them know what I think.

You know, Yeah, like Jesus is the way have a nice day.

So every time they hear it, they're like pause, they're way a little and they look around se if Jesus is actually talking, and then they realize is true.

Story, true story.

It works every time.

They don't even they don't even ring the doorbell anymore.

I don't get any of that.

But I've got a gate, so there'd.

Be not I don't have a gay my my my door is wide open, man, I'm telling well, I mean, but i'd leave it unlocked a lot.

And I've never gotten that.

I don't know, but it's not.

It sounds like it's common for you.

I mean, you're right by the Mormon temple, so that makes sense.

That is so true.

That is so true.

But there he goes again.

You know, but Jesus is their way have a nice day.

So I don't think there's something wrong with that.

Speaking of a salvation and God and Heaven and eternity and all that, I've got to I've got a thought for you.

So I have a clip about evolution tonight.

I don't know.

I didn't want I don't want to talk about politics.

Should we do it.

Do you want to talk about politics?

What do you got?

Brother?

We can talk whatever you want to talk about.

I'm game, all right, well get it, get it off your mind?

Man, Well let me run a I don't really have any I mean I actually care for talk.

I'm checked out, dude, I'm checked out.

I'm disillusioned, I'm disenfranchised.

I'm all of the dishes.

I'm just like, what and the the satanic elite pedophiles is going on?

It's just draining, dude.

F Stein files are supposed to be released tomorrow, yeah, before we declare war.

Well that's what everyone expected last night.

Yeah, you know, everyone's like, ah, the EPSTEM files are coming out tomorrow, we better declare award.

But instead we got this bizarre twenty minute rant.

Did he watch it?

No, dude, I I you know, I know better.

It was weird.

I was like, what the heck is going on?

He was ranting on what just he literally opened it up like I inherited an absolute disaster.

It was really his first words, I think, And he just went on twenty minutes about how how amazing his list of accomplishments are, you know, and it was just like, bro, we are at the end of the Trump era, Man, like, this is it's a rap?

Yeah what second year?

Right?

Are we going to start the second year now?

Yeah, but he's already they're already talking about gettinghim out on the campaign trail for the midterms.

Dude, it's just bro, it's kind of embarrassing.

Have you seen any provement in gas prices inflation in the last years?

Is that?

Is that what anybody cares about right now?

I mean, I think I think they're No.

I don't think so.

I think there's a well, because we make money, but people are on survivor.

No.

I think I think there is a generational divide on this.

I think older folks they really want to know what the price of eggs is and the price of gas.

Twenty year olds they don't care.

They're going, how in the world are I going to survive in these you know?

So they really care about the gas prices?

No, No, they care about the fact that they make fifteen dollars an hour and the median house is eight hundred thousand dollars.

That's what they care about, you know.

They don't, they don't.

I think they're just completely like it's time for a revolution.

Dude, I think I think it is way past gas prices.

Gotcha, I see what you're saying.

I think it's like we're invading other countries, like what we're sending money to wear?

Why I'm just talking about oil because that's usually the purest reflection of where we're going.

I agree.

I mean, I think it is obviously, and the cost of energy is super important.

I just think we're like way past that, at least like the younger for us, Like if you like we own homes, like we are just we don't you know, we're happy.

Yeah, we're happy that there's inflation fools with home prices.

We're happy fools.

But if dude, if you're twenty two, yeah, you gotta be thinking, what is it?

A fuck?

Yeah?

I sit on my kid.

He's the young one.

You know, he's twenty five.

He's stressing a little bit because the only way he can make it out is either get a start, like you know, their their options are very limited.

It's so limited.

I mean, if I wanted to buy my house today, I wouldn't need to make three times as much.

Money does I make?

R or move to Alabama.

Moved to Alabama.

Even Alabama's getting expensive, man.

And it's not like we live in paradise, man, well a little bit.

Sometimes we literally live twenty minutes away from the murder capital of the world of the country.

I'm sorry.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm not sure we live in paradise, you know, Like I mean, granted, I get it's a lot nicer here than over there, right, but then again, the Garden of Eden was secured and as soon as you stepped out, it was hell.

The demons were out.

Well yeah, hey, you know, step away.

I just did what this guy it's this is this is late stage empire stuff.

Yeah.

Can I be honest, I don't, I don't really, I'm stopping.

I'm ceasing to hear or see any politics at this point because, yes, it's bad.

It's theater, man, It's just a total charade, charad, charad, charade.

All you can say.

It's obviously it's I mean, it's obviously just about circuitlance, you know, like like in on the campaign trail, you just try to appeal to people and then once you're in, you make the Monday.

Yeah, you make the Monday, make them, do.

You know that?

Hat And listen, guys, guys, guys, guys, remember right wing over here.

Don't get mad at me.

I assume most of our listeners are right wing.

But do you know that half of Trump's current net worth is from selling his shit coin?

No way, half of his current net worth.

He did his trump coin.

Remember that all his supporters bought it, pumped up the price, he sold it, cashed out, all of his supporters lost a bag of money, and that is now half of his net worth.

I mean, gotta respect the hustle.

I guess, yeah, side hustle.

What are we doing, dude?

I just feel like I feel like the joke's on us.

It's really unfortunate anyway.

It always has been, always has been, It always has been.

It's always the joke has always been on us, and your grandparents and your parents and your grandparents and your great grandparents.

Yeah.

Always.

So the question is, what are you gonna do about that?

I think, yeah, I think that's uh.

I mean, it depends how optimistic you are about the future.

Like, if you think there is going to be a future, which I think is a reasonable thing to think and hope for, then I think you gotta you gotta try to become you gotta try to join the aristocracy, man, I mean, that's the only hope for anybody.

Yeah, and and then we get futures here in the United States.

There are futures in Mexico, the futures in South America, Europe, not to mention Africa, you know.

So it's just it just depends where you're at.

That's how your future looks, either bright or dim.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean the idea of there not being a future, I guess I guess what it would look like is it would look a lot more like Central America or Africa here.

I'm not talking about ethnicities, although probably that too, but just financially, you know, hyper inflation, crime.

Yeah, and so it's a yeah, it's it's weird, man, It's it's very unfortunate.

So yeah, I think all you can really do is try to have become a lawyer.

Oh to make it through well, or jump on the bandwagon of AI like a lot of people have been.

Yeah, get into what.

I don't know, it's it's a yeah, web design.

I do have an idea, but I cannot say it.

Because our listeners will steal it from you.

They're greedy.

Little great would do reason, but yeah, I have an idea.

You have an idea, an entrepreneurial idea.

Yeah, you know, we always have those ideas every three months.

Whether it's gonna crystallize or not, that's a different story.

But I think it's might be worth talking about it.

But not now, of course.

But dude, yeah, dude, yeah, yeah.

But you so, I'm I'm intuiting from our conversation that you're maybe more optimistic than I am in my current state.

Man, this is the thing about gen xers.

We we fucking seen that all man, the Cold War.

Our parents were raised by boomers.

You know, we were raised by boomers.

We basically raised ourselves.

We never had a parent at home, no internet, you know, the whole thing.

So it's like another disaster.

Fuck it, drive through it.

So as it's almost like it's optimism through nihilism, you know what I mean.

Basically, Yeah, we get yeah, we get nailed by you know, by other generations saying that we're cynical and we just don't care.

But it is true.

It is true.

Yeah, So in a way that could come across a little bit opt I mean, you know, you get tired of that shit, man, of hearing it and like every decade, well now it's every year, but every decade you have like a crisis, you know, the Gulf War in the night, or you know ron Od Reagan getting shot in the eighties, and it sounds dude, they they the whole point is to keep us on our toes so they can mess up our mind and our soul.

Remember what I told you last episode, Like it was all this ship the world was designed to destroy us, to crumble you down.

Dude, let me let me I I agree.

What if the world is designed a little differently though, I got a new I got a proposal for you.

Okay, this is like, this is like a stone owner.

You know, you just hit a third hit and you're like, start talking about God with your bro.

Right, Yes, that's what this is.

So what if?

Okay?

I hear a lot of different arguments as to like why God can't exist, right, Some of them are scientific, some of them are rationalistic, materialistic, blah blah blah.

There are two that I hear that are actually pretty emotional, and I think it's interesting.

I think it's interesting that these two arguments get used so much considering their emotional argument.

So one one is basically Lucifer's argument that you know, if God is real, then that means you're a slave, right, You're a slave to this guy.

This guy controls you.

He's like an oppressive force, and that the thing you really should be doing is like you should be in rebellion against that.

It's kind of like a teenager's mindset on the world, like, oh, you're just trying to control me, you know.

That's kind of the Luciferian position, And so it's kind of an acknowledgment that like, maybe God exists, but even if he did, you know, why would you want to worship a god like that?

Or why would you want to be subservient to a god like that?

So that's one That's one thing I hear atheists say atheists it's like what, okay.

And then the other thing I hear is, if there is a god, why would there be so much evil?

Like why would he allow so much evil in the world?

And it dawns on me that those are kind of mutually exclusive arguments.

They're kind of contradictory because it's like you're saying, like, how could God allow so much evil?

But then on the other hand, you're saying, like we don't want God to control us, and so it's a catch twenty two, right, because the problem of evil is explained by free will.

You know, the reason they're the reason evil exists is because humans have free will, and so they're free to act in an evil fashion.

Okay, And that's how humans are kind of different than angels, for example, which can't sin, we're told, right, and so, and you think about it, there's no sin in heaven, right, which means your your free will will actually be curtailed if you make it to heaven in a sense.

Okay, So maybe the purpose of the world is to figure out if you would even want to live in a place like that, right, which you even want to live in a place without baddies, mamas?

Does you know?

But that's with the assumption that you will become like angels.

Well, just we know there's no sin in heaven, right, Yeah, But doesn't mean that they're only angels in heaven.

No, No, So I'm not what I'm saying.

I'm saying there's no sin, so what I'm but what I'm saying is that their heaven is different than ours.

No, No, But but our heaven will be I mean that's if we believe the Bible, there won't be sin in heaven.

Yeah for us, right, but there's still different entities.

Sure, yeah, no, totally.

I'm on board.

And so because and they have if you have different entities, well that's my belief anyway, I agree, Yeah, you have different clearances.

I guess sure, sure, but I mean, but I think we would agree that, like you won't be able to commit murder in heaven, like there's no sin in heaven.

Right, So what do you think Lucifergot that thought he rebelled?

Yeah, but what do you think he was though?

I don't know.

That's a good question.

Yeah, yeah, so you can get kicked out if you act upon it, right, Okay, it doesn't mean that you won't be able to have bad thoughts or have the ability still to be rebellious.

Yeah, yeah, I like that.

So I don't know.

No, no, I don't think we're disagreeing at all.

So my thing we're not.

The thing is pretty maybe not even I agree with what you're saying.

So what I'm saying is maybe the purpose of the world is to figure out if you would want to live in a place like that, a place where you would get kicked out of for having these thoughts or doing these things.

I mean, that's already happening here.

What do you mean, like if you say mere Christmas, you're gonna get a weird eye.

You know, you're gonna get condemned, kicked out, you know, not be in that circle.

But what I guess what I'm saying is it's kind of a solution to the problem like why is there evil on earth?

And how could you believe in a god that controls you?

It's like, well, you live this life and you figure out if that's even something you would want, right, because it's a way for God to not force you into something you don't want.

And I can genuinely see not a lot of people not wanting to go to a place like that.

Mm hmm, right, m hm.

And so when we talk about earth the world as a test, it's kind of like that's the test.

You know, here's free will.

Let's see how you really act and what you really want before we put you in him, because we keep having a rebellion up here right right right, right right, and so so let's see who is going to want to fit into this next steps, like how much do you want it how much do you want.

Or do you want it at all?

Right?

Right?

Because dude, I mean you I've always heard you say like I just want to ribbi a baddie.

That is true, that is true.

But those are my like human needs, you know, my human needs, and and Heaven supposed to be that that that will be gone.

We're going to transform into something else, right, So those needs that I have right now, So that reality that heaven that I see with those glasses, it's it's it'll be completely different, right, But I mean how else it would heaven be enticing?

No, but that's what I'm saying.

That, But that's exactly what I'm saying, and I'm wanting would you want to live in a place without those things?

I can see a lot of people not wanting to, no, because they're confined to the human right, to the to the human needs or basic needs of reptilian needs.

Yeah, but I don't know if sins are necessarily needs not necessarily sins like eating?

Sure?

Sure, sure, yeah, Hey eating is important for some people, right, Like right, I mean evidently we have to eat, right, so we have to consume, But uh is that important?

You know?

Are you okay with not having food up and upstairs, you know.

Yeah, but I think it's different.

I think it's there's a need to eat, and then there's like a lust to eat.

Yeah, correct, And then there's a you know, there's a there's the the good things that happen in marriage and procreation, and then there's just like this deep, kind of weird desire for you know, you want to you want impregnate everybody and you want.

You think they will be sex in heaven.

Bible says there won't be.

Because there will be no need.

Well, there's no marriage and you know, obviously sex can only occur within marriage according to the Bible.

So that blows.

This is what I'm saying.

This is my This is kind of what I'm saying.

It might be like, would you even want to be there?

That's what life is, you know, and no children.

But we really don't know, We don't This is an argument.

They really don't know.

Maybe maybe heaven is.

Just a recollection of all your you know, good stuff that makes you makes you you here in the earth, and a different programming up there could be.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's the bonus.

It's the bonus at the end of the game you beat the game.

Welcome to the bonus level.

Well, I mean, Lucifer had an argument good enough to kind of convince a lot of angels and also people.

I think that's the point.

It's got to be a good argument.

Yeah, oh yeah, right.

Just got It's got to be like, hey, don't you want to be able to indult to indulge in these things?

What is?

What is?

The main motto is like how does it go?

Well?

The so like the motto of like the oto and you know, Satanism is do do what now?

Whilst there you go?

Or wilt I'm not sure which which means do whatever the fuck you want exactly as long as it's convenient to you.

So it's like anything goes right.

And so, so rather than just creating that's that's creatures in heaven angels, right, and then one third of them rebelling, Let's create beings like us on earth and see which of them would want to live up here?

Right?

And you like it.

It's just it's just a thought.

Who fucking knows, dude, It's all a simulation.

It's all simulation, but a simulation for what purpose?

I think that's the problem with simulation theory.

It's like Okay, why what are we simulating?

And so anyway, oh okay, yeah that is true, like the turbulations, and like, yeah, why do it?

It's gotta be a reason.

And do you want eternal life?

Right?

And for what purpose?

You don't play trumpets in heaven?

Forever?

I thought of that when I was like eight.

It's like, oh man, this is so hard to wake.

That's sort of like a church doctrine.

Right when you're eight, that's what you think about, right, and are you just going to be singing like oh man, this sucks.

I don't know if all this work is worth it.

And then again you go it's like, okay, well what's peaceful?

Like what brings me happiness?

You know?

What's peaceful and bliss?

You know when you see I don't know.

There are different things to different people.

You know.

It can be a sunset for some It can be looking at a donut for some other people.

Yeah, subjective, subjective, But all in all, I think it's just policing your senses.

Because my understanding when I was a kid was like, Okay, if you're a good person, you go to a heaven, and Heaven's perfect and amazing everything you want, right, and if you're a bad person, you burn for all eternity.

But I mean reading this stuff, it doesn't really seem like that's the promise.

The promise is heaven.

You go to heaven maybe, right if you do everything this certain way, or hell is just you just don't exist, you know, the whole lake of fire stuff.

I mean that is in the Bible, But it's not like a perpetual, eternal suffering.

It's just like you're discarded, you know.

And you know, think about talking about this idea of like life is just determining if you would even want to be in heaven.

I mean, there's all these parables about like assorting that occurs at the end, right, Like you we let the wheat and the terrors grow in the field together, then we harvest, and then the wheat is gathered into the barn and the tears are cast into the fire.

You know, So it does it does kind of seem like, you know, you can't.

I guess my point is you can't simultaneously be upset that there's evil in the world and then be upset at a creator who controls you because there's one or the other.

Yeah, can't can't both, right, you can have it both ways.

Thanks for letting me, Thanks for letting me philosophize.

Dude.

Of course, who do we have here?

Now?

Who is this?

All?

Right?

This guy there's like a there was like a weird back and forth between Tucker and Brett Weinstein.

Weinstein?

Who is that guy?

This guy I don't even remember his name.

Let me see this guy is?

Uh do you see it anywhere?

Oh?

Here we go.

I don't know.

Maybe he'll say his name.

He's not even that important.

Doesn't even say his name.

Wow, he's like he's like a I guess he's like Okay, So who who is he?

Specifically?

What does he do for work?

He's an organic chemist.

He's a professor at Rice in Texas.

Uh, and he's mostly research.

He does some teaching, but mostly research.

He's nih funded many by he spun off many biotechs.

He's you know, putting out research papers and grants and PhD students.

And I think he is also a creationist.

Nice, so he's going to go to heaven.

Dude, he tells his conversion story because I mean he's Jewish or you know by ethnicity, right, and.

You can't addict it.

Yeah, I'm just kidding, No, but that doesn't happen very often.

That's even Tucker is like, what did your parents say?

And they're like, they were devastated.

Hey, if they could, if Nicodemus did it anyone, Nico demons.

He didn't go all the way though, right, No, he did.

Jesus told him to follow him and he didn't.

Well, he kind of stepped back, but he's still let me take a look at this movie this is all about.

Yeah, he's saying basically his parents were devastated, but that they ended up converting to Oh, no kidding, but he was addicted to porn, this guy, which I don't even know how it's possible because he's this was what porn was there thirty years ago, you know, but uh, but he was addicted to for and he yeah, and he read the line that we just happened to mention on the last episode, no kidding, which way, Yeah, he said that line just stuck with him that that.

You know, Jesus says, they're they're asking about sex outside of marriage and stuff, and he says, if you even look at a woman with lust in your heart, you've committed adultery, right, And uh, that's stuck with him, and so he was praying about it to Jesus, right, and this sounds nuts.

I don't know if you know that.

People hear this stuff and they're like seriously, you know, but he's praying, He's praying to God, he's praying about this, and he says, Jesus appears in his room.

WHOA Right?

And I forget exactly the details, but he refers to it as like a dream experience, so like he even kind of acknowledges like maybe it was in his own head, but to him it was very physical and real.

So anyway, so he's a MS, he's got some thoughts and evolution.

This is kind of long.

Like Walter White, he's a chemist.

Yeah, organic organic chemistry even better.

Yeah, and it seems like smart dudees.

But what you never see, never see, or what is called body plan changes.

Body plan changes and this encompasses many things.

But but you see these these genetic networks would have to change.

So a body plan change would be an invertebrae, something that does not have a spine going to a vertebrae, something that has a spine, something like a worm going into something that has a spine.

You never ever see that.

You never see.

Now there are hypotheses where people will see fossils and they'll say, oh, this must have been a precursor to this.

They will never see the transformative thing that that is for sure.

And I'm not the only person that is saying that.

It's not just Jim Tour the creationist, saying this.

And the problem with body To be clear, the fossil record does not support the theory of evolution as at least as you're defining it.

Well, yes, it does not support body plan changes.

They're small permutations like the ones that I have just told you, but you will not see body plan changes.

It is any fossil record that we found.

The only thing that you will see is people will hypothesize over that fossil.

They'll see a fossil here and a fossil here, and they'll say, oh, and then they'll see a fossil here, this must have been the transition to this, and they'll hypothesize with that.

But it doesn't have to be the transition.

This is strictly a hypothesis, and so we don't see that in the fossil record.

Many people don't see that in the fossil records.

Some people say, we absolutely see that the absolute people are actually becoming less and less.

The problem with this, in order to have a body plan change, you have to have these genetic networks.

These genetic networks are going to have to change.

The genetic networks occur very early on in life.

This is the wiring that is going to occur to run this system.

You clip one wire, it is catastrophically lethal to the organism.

It is lethal.

Everything goes haywire.

And people will say this, and there has never been an example of this where you can get into these early genetic networks and start changing things, because if you change one little thing, you have to have many, many downstream things, so it's not one little.

Chi So okay, why am I playing this?

Dude?

We live in wild times right now, dude, Yeah, I love it.

So, you know, this has always been the creationist perspective.

It's been you know, okay, cool species can adapt to their environment, but can they become new species?

You know, and they call that speciation, And it just doesn't seem like they can.

Look at dogs, you know, look at the amount of phenotypical like like visible variety that you get in dogs.

You know, and technically a chihuahua and a Great Dane.

Maybe not physically, but if you were to artificially inseminate them, right, they would have a they would have a baby dog.

Right.

And there's this idea, well, yeah, because you just you need to get there needs to be enough random mutations to the sex chromosomes to cause speciation.

And it's like, well, there's just we just don't have an example of that, that's right, we just don't see it.

And then and they'll point to things like you know, how did we even get multicellular life, Like where in the fossil record do we see the two cell organisms, the three cell organisms, the ten cell organisms.

And so they'll say, look, we have these examples, and they'll find like a there's literally two fossils.

They'll find two billion year old fossils of like a clump of cells.

But there are millions and millions and millions and millions.

I mean they're just everywhere, Like we could pick up dirt from the ground and find them of single cell fossils, but we have two multicellular fossils.

Like the gap there's a chasm in the fossil record.

Like people like to say, oh, it's just incomplete.

It's really hard for things to fossilize.

It's like yeah, yeah, for sure, but there's just we would expect so much intermediate stuff, and so the idea that like you would develop wings through natural selection doesn't make any sense because like wings aren't useful until they're fully evolved, So you would need to have like thousands of generations of useless proto wings which we have fossil.

Record, right, which we have none.

Which we don't have they'll find one fossil.

That's like, there's some weird going on here.

Maybe this is like the missing link between whatever to speak, you know, a non flight and listen, I'm not a biologist evolution biologist.

I'm sure I'm getting some things wrong, but generally speaking, now even the evolutionary biologists are like, yeah, you're right.

Now, of course, what do they do, well, Brett Weinstein goes on Rogan to announce this crazy stuff.

He's an evolutionary biologist, right, He basically just says, yeah, neo Darwinism is wrong, and so it's clearly some other mechanism, and everyone's like, okay, yeah, evolution is still correct.

It's just some other mechanists like you, no, bullshit, We need to know what the mechanism is.

Like, we can't just you established all this good will and faith in science saying like Darwinism, neo Darwinism, natural selection, random mutation, it explains speciation.

Like you got everybody sold on that.

You don't just get to say like, oh, okay, well that was wrong, but clearly there's some other force or mechanism that causes this.

It's like maybe, but we got to start from scratch.

Dude, dude, dude, right along.

That will take and to understand that.

Do you think there could use AI to kind of formulate another hypothesis?

I mean yeah, even if they did.

Even if they did, you know what that means, like, oh that doesn't work.

But we have nothing else at work so that we know of.

So that's the thing with science.

That's the thing with science.

Yeah, man, I mean people say like science advances one funeral at a time, you know, but I don't think that's quite right.

I think it's like you get a dogma, you get an orthodoxy, and they push that and you push it for generations.

Oh yeah, for seventy years and at every level religion, school, yes, and then you get a critical mass of people who are actually doing the work, the scientists, and they deep down they kind of know, yeah, we're kind of taking some pretty big liberties here.

But pay me my fund my research anyway.

And I don't I don't think it's like quite so like sinister.

I think they're just sitting there like, well, I don't want to like everyone agrees, like I'm sure you know, I don't know everything, you know.

And then finally a few of them start saying, like, come on, guys, there's enough doubt, and they figure out a way to propose a new idea that isn't too offensive, like Brett Weinstein's proposed.

I don't.

I can't even understand it, dude, He's so hard to follow.

But like that, there's like these this other system for these these other this other genetic epigenetic system for introducing.

Like new dude, no one is gonna believe that now.

And it's like, well, bro, maybe, but I can't just skip over the fact that right giving up on random mutation being the driving force of evolution, you know, and the credibility is just not the greatest now because even though they start in you uh, in one hundred years, can be debunked again, Like, no, guys, we were wrong on that one too.

Yeah, you know, it's just sucks.

It's it's easier to believe.

This paper came out that like environmental stressors can like trigger changes, they can make you like more likely to develop certain uh versions of a gene and stuff, and it's like, well that's interesting, but again like well how long will that take?

Though I just think I just think you got it.

In order for them to have any credibility, they have to come out and say we totally got it wrong, right, you know, like obviously natural selection exists, like species can adapt to environmental cataclysms and isolation, and but but the invention of new like like you're saying body plans and forms of life, it just it doesn't happen this way.

And that means the whole idea of like one animal coming from another, we don't know if it's true or not.

And they should just admit that.

But their egos gets in the way exactly.

That will never do it.

You get criticized that, you get crucified.

You have to change the whole You have to change the whole, uh, the whole system, dude, And then your credibility is out the door, yes, and it's a slippery slope.

Yeah, you start losing the mood.

Yeah, yeah, a diverge of like is this real science or we're just making these shut up, you know, which is probably too extreme of like the pendulum swinging, But I guess happened though, right, it's it's And then they're gonna label it us an ideology versus true science.

You know, you're pushing your own agenda, and we know how that ideology goes.

Yeah, do you want listen to a little bit more?

Sure change can change this organism?

No?

No, no, no, it's not going to happen now.

We there have been experiments like Lynsky.

What he's done is he's.

Hey, actually, do you mind I had to run upstairs and grab something.

Can I just let this play?

Yeah, if there's a commercial or something, I'll edit it out.

Looked at bacteria Bacteria can can can multiply every twenty minutes, so with a person it might be every twenty years.

Bacteria multiply every twenty minutes.

And this is why you can feel fine right now, and then after a few hours you're like, wow, right, I feel terrible.

I gotta go home, because this bacteria is doubling, doubling every twenty minutes, doubling in every twenty minutes.

It doubles its population.

That's what bacteria do.

And so he has studied since nineteen eighty eight and continues to this day, studying the multiplication of bacteria and putting it under certain stresses to see what's going to evolve.

He's never seen a body plane change, nowhere close.

The only thing he's seen is a little change in a citrate operation.

And I've done a podcast on that with one of my colleagues who is who is a biologist, and he talks about how that changed.

What was actually in the bacteria was already there and it just turned that gene back on it.

It's just a regulatory thing.

But in any case, yet, no body plan changes.

We've never seen the macro evolution.

The body plan change never has been seen.

And here we had what was equivalent in bacteria to two million years of population changes two million years, and we've never seen that.

And so what we see we don't even see in the fossil record.

This what we see is the Cambridge explosion, the Cambridge explosion, the Cambrian explosion is that you went from from about five hundred and forty million years ago is resumed when this thing happened, is all of a sudden you burst on the scene with all these new species, all these new life forms, and it happened over a short period of time a little over five hundred million years ago, is what the fossil record is suggesting.

You don't see transitional forms.

You don't see transitional forms before here.

They just appear as if God spoke it into existence, as if God said, let let let let these kind form.

There is an explosion.

And even even firm people like Stephen Gould, who was a staunch evolutionist, said, you know, this thing just pops out here and so he spoke about but doesn't that kind of blow up?

What do you think, Well, gene expression, it's we we see it all the time, right, you can turn on off genes.

But yeah, the the the he's got a point.

I think that would be like that would be what they need to propose s right, go ahead.

No, no, that's why we have fossil spot.

We don't have that transition right like now we know the mitosis and myosis and all that transitional chromosome division.

We have proof of that right in the same species, of course, but we don't.

Basically, what he's saying is like a you know, evolution is bullshit, right kind of?

Maybe?

Yeah, I mean in the current conception, Like I think if they propose like this new idea, like there's some other genetic network in the cell that you know, if you're exposed to some like new environment for thousands of years, it somehow activates and it somehow has like a genetic memory or and then this causes gene expression patterns to change or even new genes to form.

Like it, they would have to propose something entirely new.

That's crazy to explain this.

But then I feel like you're just kicking the can down the road.

It's like, well, where the fuck did that come from?

Then?

You know, so true the Cambrian So this is where I'm what we get a little bit conflicting data or information is like, if you're a Christian, you've been in the Bible, then you know mankind was six thousand years right.

And then I've never agreed with that six thousand years thing.

Right, And then you have fossil records what we don't even know if the carbon testing is correct anyway, but it's saying like five hundred and forty million years ago.

I mean, I think we can be pretty confident in carbon data.

I don't.

I don't get that perspective either, is it.

Yeah, from what I heard, I might be wrong.

I don't think so, man.

I mean we have things like like there's things known.

Well it's not perfect, right, there's some area, but it's like that's the only thing we got.

It's like an MRI, right, but there we are ninety percent sure, but we don't know.

We have a you know, a tear and then or you go in there and then they find like three different tears that they were not seen in the MRI.

I you know, right, right?

But I mean the difference between like six thousand years and six hundred million.

So where these people get in six thousand years?

Just creation the Bible?

When the Bible was created.

It's it's a genealogy from Adam to Jesus.

I think way off right.

I agree with you.

On that, but like, hey, that maybe there is six thousand years between Adam and Jesus.

Can we marry it doesn't that doesn't really right?

Can we marry the idea that there were sub humans before the Garnment of Eden is that.

I think it's obviously the case.

Where does Cain go?

Right when they spelled Cain, they send him to the east, to the land of the civilization there.

Right, of some sort necessarily of humans.

Is Caine is one of it's the second generation, right, it's Adam, And then you get Cain and Abel, right, right, and so Cain kills Abel.

Caine's expelled from the garden.

He goes east to the land of Nod and.

There's cities, right, So like, of course, I mean there's six thousand years between Adam and right, I think Jesus.

I'm not exactly sure, but no, no, sorry, four thousand years between Adam and Genius and Jesus.

So okay, you know I'm fine with that.

I don't get what that has to do with the earth.

Can't be can we say, right?

Can we say then the garden beinga was a little bubble like a lab.

Yes, I love that.

Yeah, Like you know, we're don run out of control study here, yep, And we're going to run a lab versus what we created somewhere else that is just not function in the way we want to function, and let's introduce a new set of rules and regulations.

Let's listen, forer you go down there, stare the pot a little bit.

See what happens there, because the sub humans are lost they have no conscious this you know, or they do have conscious, it's just they don't they're in humans.

So right, so now that we have this evolved sentium being us, Yeah, let's see how that goes.

Yeah, you go down there and you make it some tweaks, right, it.

Doesn't mean that all humans come from the from And what's interesting is the tweaks weren't even really approved, right.

We ate from the fruit of the knowledge, that's you know, knowledge of good and evil.

Like this was a this was an unapproved manipulation of our genome.

Right, that variable was not part of the Grand plan.

Man.

You know what else is crazy?

Writing is six thousand years old, right, so at the time we get this new you know, Adam and Eve at this time, this new type of human.

But Sumerian writing is older than that, right, No, six thousand that's it.

That's it.

So then okay, okay, yeah, and so that's why sometimes we'll say civilization is six thousand years old.

But there's architecture that's much older than six thousand years but writing is six thousand years.

And what type of architecture?

Though?

Nothing too crazy, right, not really?

No, I mean, but no, that's not true because like the tepee is pretty pretty, pretty old, pretty impressive.

You know.

What happened to those people though, I don't know, but that's twelve thousand Jesus And it depends.

How old do you think the pyramids are?

I mean, I think they could also be twelve thousand.

Ryan was talking about that, right, yep, yeah, yeah, like the people were building stuff and so old, so much older.

What are the yes, I agree?

What are the odds?

Though?

Oh that's a good point though, because yeah, you know pre Deluvion, that's yeah, that's twelve thousand years So we have some type of intelligent life on Earth that angels are breeding with more than six thousand years ago, right, right.

It's all very I gotta say, it's very people who act like it's like, oh, yeah, the Bible says to Earth is six thousand years old, Like, no, it doesn't, right.

They think that all humans come from from from the Garden of Eden, right, and we kind of know they don't how do you from Genesis?

It's hard.

How do you convince others of that?

He can't.

I don't know, because we got we got Kane out there somewhere right right, But then we have you know, they have a new son.

Is it Seth Seth Seth?

Yeah, and that's where you know we come from.

Maybe I don't know, I could be sententive Kan, I'm not sure.

But but the whole point is you kick Kane out of the garden and there's cities that's actually say that that other cities.

Yeah, he goes to the land of not He marries Jesus.

He marries a woman outside of the garden in the land of Nod.

That's awesome.

Sorry to break it to you people, but there were other sub speechy species before our nice little novel Christmas novel.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm not an expert.

Someone can tell me I'm wrong.

I'm open minded to being.

Wrong to me too.

But that that kind of fits the idea, like that kind of fits the idea of for five hundred and forty million years ago, the Cambrian explosion.

And you know, who is to say that God this is the only creation he did obviously had other creations we just don't know about.

And some other people wrote about it.

Yeah, and also I mean ours, no one would argue that God is giving us a detailed account.

You know what they all have in common though?

What cosmology?

Oh tell me more?

No, I mean the stars have been around forever, right, and they all point to the stars as something that it's a common denominator in all of them, in all of them, like celestial guidelines or celestial road map, you know, and they built like huge things.

Man.

You know what do you know how Jesus is constantly talking about they'll return at the end of the age.

Oh yeah, like Aquarius and Pisces.

I was gonna say, do you think it's a celestial age?

Can be?

Can be?

Because we're close?

Then I think we're just cross into the the and you can look it up into the Pisces.

There's not.

The Pisces is what we're in.

And so that will end and the Age of Aquarius will start.

Got it?

When is that?

Well?

So it's interesting that the symbol of Jesus is a fish because the Age of Ices started around his birth.

But we don't But here's the thing that's confusing.

We don't actually have precise states for this.

We don't know.

It's like debated, so I don't even know what the foundation is of these special ages, but somehow sounds kind of cool though.

I think the idea is you've got ye.

It has something to do with you know, you have the zodiac right, right, which is forbidden in the Bible, the procession of the axis of the Earth.

It's not forbidden, it's forbidden that the Bible says that this stuff is real.

It's forbidden for us to dabble.

In right, therefore forbidden for us.

Right not that Yeah, no, I know, I'm just saying, like it's It doesn't mean it's not true.

It just means we shouldn't be like true such as like also numerology, there's less power in numbers, you know, I mean God uses numbers yea in sequence people not.

She talks about it, right, Tesla talks about it.

You know.

It's the universe is hidden in numbers.

But dude, it's all a big fucking mystery and that and that in itself kind of drives your faith, right, whether you want to have faith in what you believe, are you ready to listen to some other, to some other ideas.

Yeah, I don't know, man, it's heavy.

Whoa whoa, bro, I told you this is gonna be a stoner conversation.

WHOA, No, the good news.

The good news is if Jesus is coming back at the end of the age, it's it's soon.

Let's look it up.

When does Some people say it already started?

But when does the Age of Aquarius?

Everyone has a different take.

Just seems like this is something we should be able to figure out.

I don't know, all right, let me let me read it to you.

There's no single agreed upon start date for the Age of Aquarius, as it's an astrological concept based on the slow shift of the vernal equinox, with predictions varying widely from the fourteen hundreds to the thirty six hundreds.

Jeez, though, and again, what's an astrologer because they say, though many modern astrologers, this is an astronomical phenomenon supposed to be but you're using aquarius and that is that's parts astrological, right, But the actual position of the equinox relative to constellations, that's astronomical.

So we should know.

I don't when it gets and that's when it gets kind of gray like you, I don't understand astronomy is a true science and then either mixed up with astrology.

You know though many modern astrologers whatever that is.

I mean, my wife is a modern astrologer, you know who I love dearly babe.

Oh that was embarrassing at a simpt on the podcast brother no.

Love us in the air.

I mean, she's never got into your microphone like mine didn't.

Yeah, you're never gonna listen to this, So we're fine.

So with some modern astrologers suggesting we're in a long transition period, with some pointing to the two thousands like twenty twelve remember that or twenty twenty four as key shift points, while astronomers, oh, here we go, this is what I wanted to know, while astronomers place the actual crossing into the constellation Aquarius much later, around twenty six hundred.

We're not gonna be alive anyway.

No, why the confusion per session of the equinoxes Earth axis wobbles, causing the point where the Sun crosses the celestial equator, the vernal equinox, to slowly move backward through the constellations over thousands of years.

Astronomical versus astrological borders.

Astronomers have defined console did I get cut of?

Okay, have defined constellation borders, but astrologers use different methods.

Well, this is cool because there's a problem and the I don't know what's going on with my microphone.

There's a sorry, go ahead, No, you're good?

Could you am I cutting down?

Or no, something's happening.

Yeah.

In the in the Gospels, it talks about how you know you'll this generation will see the Second Coming, and obviously that's not true, right, right, because that was two thousand years ago.

So the only way that makes sense is in other places he talks about him coming back at the end of the age, and so if it's a celestial age, then that kind of makes sense.

But why so vague?

Just give me an expiration day, tell me, tell me to just tell me when you're coming so I can believe and then just be a piece, you know.

But can you imagine everyone will be saying it will be Sodom and Gomorrah all over worldwide, and then everyone is going to repent thirty days prior to your subscription being expired.

I guess that's why you can't know when it's happening.

Right, you can't know for sure that it's real.

Yeah, I have been reading some stuff about revelation, and of all the books of for sure, the New Testament, whether or not revelation should be included is like the most controversial.

Really.

Yeah, Like the fathers of the Church, even most of them didn't think it should be included.

Martin Luther, although he later changed his mind about it, he said, like, this is not scriptural.

John wrote it though not We don't think so.

No, Yeah, that's.

A common consensus.

I mean there's debate.

You know.

Obviously a lot of religious scholars think he did.

But you know it it was written much late than the Book of John.

In the Book of John was already written, like pretty late for John to have even written it.

He was pretty old though when he wrote Revelations supposedly.

Yeah, yeah, pat Most I think yeah, yeah, some people it's definitely debated.

If it's some people refer to him as a third person John of pat Most versus John, you know, the disciple of the Apostle.

I don't know, I'm not trying to be a heretic.

I'm just that is that is the controversy.

Do you want to see what these secular jerks say about Revelation.

Let's see, Yeah, let's see what the little Satan cube in my pocket has to say.

So tradition strongly holds that John the Apostle, exiled on the island of Patmos, wrote the Book of Revelation.

I believe, supported by early Church fathers like Aaronaeus and Justin Martyr.

The modern scholarship contests whether John the Apostle or another prophetic figure named John wrote the book.

The book itself identifies the author as John, who receives visions in prison on Patmos, but there are significant stylistic writing differences between the Gospel of John and Revelation internal cues.

So the author calls himself John and describes being on Patmos for the Word of God, linking him to exile described in early Christian history.

So scholar's question of the Apostle wrote it due to stylistic differences in the books apocalyptic nature, suggesting another prophet named John.

But this is controversial.

So it seems, I mean the.

Same person have different writing styles, though as you get older that happens.

I actually really strongly agree with that state, Like you can have different writing styles from one book to the next Yeah.

Yeah, the fact is that we still have it in the Bible.

Yeah.

The the Wikipedia I had read was much more strongly.

You know who owns Wikipedia?

We don't Lucifer himself.

So funny.

But do you want this to end?

Or you want to see your kids grow a little bit into the this world of madness at least to get some a glimpse of you know, happiness.

Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.

I mean, if if the Bible is to believe, you know, the end is good news, right, So in that sense you should root for the end.

Yeah.

But then again, as a provider and protector.

You know, it's okay when you're single, like you don't really care, say yourself.

But but I mean it's good news for them too, is what I'm saying.

If you believe the Bible, Yeah, that.

Is true, That is true.

Yeah, but but I but yeah, I mean, of course, of course I want it.

I want it to happen when my great great great great grandkids are gone.

Right.

Yeah, so that that that sort of just extends perpetually.

You know, it's got to happen sooner or later.

But but you think it's gonna happen.

I think I think society, civilization is headed towards something, whether it's a divine intervention or just human folly.

Mm hmm.

I don't know what do you think that's that's that's a tough one for me, because I don't know how much divine intervention is allowed and how much evil is allowed, you know, in order for it or for the prophecy to happen, you know, and and that in itself, it's it's hardcore, dude.

It is, dude, it is wild.

Like, think about how much harder it would have been to believe in revelation And like nineteen ten, there was no country named Israel, right, you know, right, but now there is, and it's all anyone is focused on or can talk about.

Don't get me started, man, right right.

So it's like it's like, uh, I mean, it's hard to argue that at least it seems feasible, right, the fact that you cannot even talk about it or you're gonna get you know, get the scarlet letter, that is, you just lost your bank account right now.

Hey, it's okay.

Trump's the first Jewish president though, We're fine.

Yeah, did you see how he put his arms around him?

Yeah?

Bro, that was weird.

He was like grasping the podium, yeah, and no one stopped him, and he's like just yeah, jolly oldies like dude, chill out.

That was odd.

That was odd.

I think people are getting more comfortable saying like, I think you have to be careful because it can cry, you know, because there is such a thing as anti Semitism, I believe, and so I think it's really easy to cross that line, just like anything else though, And so I think people should be careful.

But also I saw this post and it's like what do you want for Christmas?

And it just says, I just want a president who doesn't kiss the wall.

And next time we had we had an anti we had one.

We had them, we had one, You're right, and all of a sudden vanished.

Yeah, or the most I should say, the most recent one was in what in nineteen sixty two.

Yeah, I didn't end up that well.

So yeah, crazy times.

Crazy times.

Man, who's going to be president next.

Well, Van's has a cutout for him for sure, you know, and he's gonna be the AI president.

You know, he's gonna push for all those trillions of dollars.

He was handpicked by these Ai Little.

Yeah, there you go.

So there's it's already paved, brother Peter Thial.

It's just a matter of how he can defend himself, you know, during the debates.

Really and who's he running against, Gavin, I hope so so he can trash him Gavin's News.

Honestly, I'm not even sure who I would prefer, you know what, I'm not even gonna watch him.

They're both terrible.

I'm not even gonna watch it.

Trump was funny.

At least Trump was funny.

He was funny anymore, No, not anymore now, totally dude.

But Gavin, I say this is someone who hates Gavin newsom not hate.

I don't hate anybody, but I detest, strongly detest.

We deeply dislike him.

He he's literally working on giving people's burnt down lots to developers.

And he's Rosemary's baby, which is Lucifer's son.

He is probably related to the Antichrist, if not actually the Antichrist.

All that said, dude, I don't think Jendie Vance is any better.

He could be worse.

I know.

At this point, I just, uh, I'm not even gonna watch it.

I'm so disillusion I'm yeah, I mean we already saw like the Empire Strice bag w terms of the Jedi, but the Jedi is not a Jedi.

You know.

It's like Luke simping out.

Oh dude, George, George Lucas nailed it.

You know, he's got the he's got the Umber Palpatine playing oversides master.

You know.

He knew it too.

But uh, it's it's all.

It's all circus, dude.

Just give me bread like a good Roman.

Give me bread.

I don't care for your circus.

Yeah, I don't need the circus.

Just bread.

I think George Lucas, I think he based this whole idea on George Bush.

Idea, this idea that George I don't know if is George Bush specifically, but that basically someone was playing both sides, like these these freedom fighters were our creation and then they became terrorists, right, Like we created the freedom fighters who we then had to fight them with our own guns, right and kill a million people in Iraq and stuff.

The prequels specifically, like when he went back the top of the Clones.

Yeah, that's right, man.

The Trade Federation has Chinese accents, Japanese accents, remember that hilarious to hilarious George lucas Man and then he goes and sold and he sells it to the devil himself, Disney.

Dude, there's a lot of devils out there nowadays, dude.

Poor.

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Yeah.

So and then of course at the symbol of the masterclass, dot com is a big m oh, here we go with the m's.

And then I saw a little pattern of the people who they had.

Some of them are not even experts, some are, but some are like pretty liberal.

Everyone in there is pretty liberal.

Because I was looking for Peterson's, I was looking for other people.

It's like they're experts on something, right, But yeah, I know where to be found.

I got to get you out of this liberal conservative mindset, man, dude, I'm already out.

They're illusions, right.

Uh, it's good or evil.

Peterson's you know, he's the Trade Federation.

And then.

What you know, some who's a liberal, Gavin Newsome, he's the separatists, you know, Like, yeah, right, they're all fucking in.

It, in it, they're all in it.

Just playing with my mind, man, playing with my feelings.

Now that said, I naturally gravitate towards this more traditional conservative.

I like it.

It's more peaceful.

I'm pro civilization, you know, I get the need for rebels and progressives, but I'm pro order and growth.

Yeah, but I understand the extremes of that too, Like I don't get me wrong, but.

I was a rebel once, right, so the you know, sometimes you gotta stend for something.

I get it.

In order for progress to happen, there needs to be suffering and pain, hence rebellion.

But dude, you take it to the other side.

Yea, Yeah, what happens after you've burnt everything down?

You can be a listen, you can be a rebel forever.

Right, That's what I'm trying to get it.

You know, there are always new rebels coming, and you need some order and you need growth.

You need stability, yes, for mobility, right yep?

Yeah.

So are you gonna do this class the photography?

Yeah, I sidetracked you by giving you a hard time about liberalism.

Oh yeah, I am.

I am.

And Lebelwitz I think she's awesome.

She has a master class.

I have that, and I have the art and negotiation and how to play chess.

Good stuff.

Dude, I just I just get bored.

Yeah, it's I don't want to get every sea nile.

But boredom is not the rid of all evil.

You know.

Yeah?

Yeah, the devil visits you with your alone.

So I know that there's a good book for people to check out.

It's called outwitting the Devil.

Oh By, it's the same guy who wrote all of these books.

It's it might be Napoleon Hill.

It might be one of those guys, one of those classic you know, so help guys, Carnegie, you know, somebody like that, Dale Carnegie.

And he has the opportunity to interview the devil, and basically, the root of all evil is determined to be just like idleness and boredom, you know, which is a very like capitalistic approach.

But I think there is something to it, you know, there is something to this idea of like not having like a not having people depending on you, not having like a reason to build, you know.

Hmm.

It does tend to make you want to start tearing shit down.

Dude, completely, It's it was a Napoleon heel.

Okay, okay, good job man, good even.

I read that a million years ago when I still had hope.

Don't get lost in the waters, man, don't get lost.

This was a yeah, man, this was fun.

I appreciate you.

This was our Christmas episode.

I only said that because I was gonna are we not going to record next week?

Okay?

I wasn't sure.

I didn't want to assume Oh.

Dude, you make it.

I don't even have emotions and this one hurts.

Okay, then this wasn't our Christmas episode.

This was our we can make it.

So we started the Christmas season with this episode.

God, there we go our Christmas special when we talk about the pagan or non pagan origins of Christmas.

Well, that was fun.

That was fun.

We have that last year, Yes we did.

And thank you to Fringe Radio Network for playing our Christmas special.

Oh nice, that's very nice.

Yes, thank you guys.

They for giving Alfredo for his sins.

I've been upsolved.

Oh my god.

Okay, turn out it turned out they were never actually mad at you, So maybe I may have overdone the drama.

I love it, see it.

Oh and by the way, I need allow me to apologize for something.

I've been a basic bitch.

And I like you that way.

No, I need to.

I need to repent.

I keep bringing up Candace Owens and Erica Kirk and I just want to apologize.

I got I have my pumpkin spice lattes and I was listening to my true crab.

For the record, I'm joking about the pumpkin spice.

I don't drink that ship.

But I had my pumpkins, I had my I had my warm beanie and my fall sweater.

Yeah, and you know my my heated blankets.

And I was drinking my pumpkin spice lattes and I was watching candae owns And I just want to apologize.

I got sucked in because people are going to listen to us in the future someday, and I just I feel like history is not going to look back fondly.

You that was not your true self.

No, that was a momentary lapse.

It's so interested.

I want to know what really happened.

Why it's it's it's futile.

No, I agree, it is few.

I'm just saying, like, if I could know, I'd like to know.

It's like, oh, it's novella.

It's an ovella.

I get it.

I get it.

No, I think it's not.

It's not.

It's not just that I want to know.

I want others to know.

I want us to know so we can spread Well.

I think I think we're called to purge evil from our midst So the revelation of evil is good, right, you know, So we'll see.

Maybe tomorrow we find out who was diddling kids on Epstein Island, But I doubt it.

What do you think it's set to come out tomorrow?

Congress was sent home early and Johnson sent everybody.

Holder cry wolf.

I don't believe it.

I agree, I don't think anything's gonna happen.

But Johnson did send everybody home a day early.

Unless I want to start ruining Christmases for a lot of people.

So what do they do because legally they have to do something, so they just fake it.

They just release some bullshit, right, yeah, redacted, that's usual.

Reacted.

Yes, how can you how can it be justified?

It's like Star Wars when they sold the toys, like when the first movie came out and they had all his merch and they were selling fucking a box with no little action figures on the inside, saying your toys will come three months from now, Merry Christmas.

And everyone is opening the press and thinking it was to start.

You know, they're little toys.

It was a whole fucking fiasco, dude, I remember, I remember that.

So it's gonna be something like this.

You think you're gonna get a press and you're gonna open it and this what no Luke sky Walker inside, No dar Vader.

But how fun would it be if it just drops?

It's like, it's like, here's a picture of Bill Clinton.

We'll definitely have a party peanut butter out of some sixteen year olds, you know.

Buttole like, no, what if it really just happened?

What if it just really happened?

Well, what if it really gets sorry for what if the list really gets uh loose?

Yeah?

What if they're just like here in the videos here it is, here's Trump a handstandy Christmas.

Here's here's hockey watching the midgets, people going to church.

I tell you that much.

Oh, wouldn't that just be glorious?

Well, let's hope, let's hope.

Let's wish for our Christmas wish.

Yeah, it's for the Epstein files to drop tomorrow and to get a president who doesn't kiss the wall.

Next time.

You can ask, you can hope, you can speak it into exist line.

Right, let's do it, all right, everybody?

All fraidough?

Talk next week?

Talk next week.

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