Episode Transcript
Today on Binger's Assemble, we are tributing Val Kilmer.
We are enjoying military show offism, and we are watching and talking about Top Gun right after these ads we have no control over.
Speaker 2Welcome to the Fingers Assemble, the show where we watch movies so you don't have to.
Speaker 3I'm Ashley Coffin.
Speaker 1I'm Haley Hobbs, and I'm Jasons, and we're.
Speaker 3Kicking off summer with Top Gun.
Speaker 1Baby.
Oh yeah, Highway to the danger Zone.
Speaker 4I don't have any aviators, but I was going to wear them, but I cannot find them.
Speaker 1Yeah, well, we'll just make a cover art for this one with you, like with paste it over.
Speaker 2Ken has a Top Gun bomber jacket, like with the real thing.
It's a mess now and I've always wanted to get it restored for him, but it is like.
Speaker 3The coolest thing ever.
Speaker 4I think I bought aviators like twenty minutes after seeing Top Gun the first time.
I mean it was like immediately, like I was like, this will finally make me cool.
Speaker 2If everybody looks pretty cool in aviators, I mean, you can't really go wrong, It's true.
Speaker 1Yeah, Like I said, we initially wanted to do this because A, they haven't been done yet on Ventures Assemble, and B it was not long after Val Kilmer had died and we were like, oh, you know, what do we do to give him a tribute?
And this is a perfect way to do it, And especially, like Ashley said, we're kicking off summer, and what better way than to go to Miramar and sweat your ass off on the Indian Ocean have a great time.
Speaker 3Yack.
Speaker 4I just had to get.
Speaker 1It out of the way, right.
Speaker 4There's gonna be a lot of sweat talk in this cast.
Speaker 3He's so sweaty.
Speaker 2Honestly though, it's hard to remember back to when I first saw this movie, but and we I've seen so many movies and it's so hard to say, like what the coolest opening of any movie is ever?
But the way that the score goes right Nick God, Damn Kenny Loggins Danger Zone.
It comes in so hot and it just makes a biggest smile on my face.
And I'm like, does any movie start cooler than this?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 4And You're like, yeah, America, Yeah, it's too iconic, which is what they wanted.
They were like, you want to use an aircraft carry, you want to use fider jets, like absolutely here.
You can use literally anything, because everyone's going to join the navy after watching this movie.
I mean, if I had been eighteen and seeing this movie, I would have for sure joined the Navy.
Like no questions asked, You're.
Speaker 1Like, bring me in right now, right I get.
Speaker 2To make a fancy cool nickname, which every time that we're reminded that his name is Pete Mitchell, we're like, Pete, Hey.
Speaker 1Pete, can I hear Pete?
Speaker 2But this soundtrack, like this, it's absolute banger after banger.
It was the top of the chart, like this movie in nineteen eighty six dominated everything.
Speaker 3It's actually my ringtone if my phone doesn't.
Speaker 2Ring anymore, but when I have to have it on, I always forget, and I'm like bun.
Speaker 3And it just makes me happy every time.
Speaker 1Yeah, Harold faultmeron his like purely electronic score that totally slaps.
Speaker 2Like Kenny Loggins.
Kenny Loggins is to this what Queen is to Highlander.
Speaker 1Oh my god, Yes, you're so right.
Now that I've watched that, God for Saken.
Speaker 3The whole store, and it's like Prince for Batman.
Speaker 2In the eighties, you just had these scores that went with the movie or the soundtracks, not the score that went with the movies, and it was fun.
Speaker 3We don't do that anymore.
Speaker 1But wait, what are okay?
So they sing?
They do Kenny Loggins.
We have Take My breath Away fifty bazillion times.
Speaker 4Yes, that's where I was going to go with this next was that?
Like?
The soundtrack's great, but there was times where I was literally like, are we literally playing take My breath Away again?
Speaker 3They hold it back for.
Speaker 2A while though, You're like, I know it's coming, and then once it starts, it never stopped.
Speaker 4They're like seven times they look at it.
They literally exchange a look and it's like I was like, are you seriously doing it again?
Like they're like I.
Speaker 1Said to Ashley Uster, like, hey, this is the story.
Do you get it?
Do you get that this is the love story?
In case you didn't know that this was the love story, here's take My Broadaway music cue again.
Speaker 2Honestly, if we even want to call it that, I always want I've seen this movie one hundred million times and go in thinking that he's the one chasing after her, but that is not what happens in this movie.
Speaker 3She is so desperate.
Speaker 4I think the romance is definitely something to talk about, and I'm sure it'll come up a lot, but I just I do not think that Tom Cruise and Kelly McGillis have that much chemistry.
If anything, I think it's like it's negative chemistry.
It's not even that it's like bordered like The Boy Girl.
It's like it detracts a little bit from the movie in my opinion, like you can see what they're trying to do, but it's just like I don't know whose fault it is even I haven't figured out whose fault it is yet, but it's but it's like they just don't they don't.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 4They just don't do not have good chemistry.
And that's not a new, like flashy take, Like a lot of people have said that ever since this movie came out, But it stood out to me like a sore thumb watching this I've seen this movie in like probably ten years, but it just it stood out like a sore thumb watching this time around.
Speaker 1Yeah, like they're supposed to be this power dynamic between them because she's supposed to be his instructor and she's got like White House security clearance, which like nobody cares about and he's supposed to be like the young hot shot, but it doesn't play that way, like it actually plays that their equals or that almost that he's a little more a little more power than her, and so it's just like I don't care.
Speaker 3And he's so rude.
Speaker 2Like the first time that they're in class, I was like, you shut up, and you show her some respect.
Speaker 4She's an astrophysicist.
Yeah you're just Pete, And shut.
Speaker 3Up, Goose.
Why aren't we even opening your mouth?
Speaker 1No, I did love Goose like sticking up for himself in the first class where Pete's like I did this, and because it's like we we did this, and he's like, I'm sorry we did this.
I was like, that's right, Goose.
You were there too.
Don't let him get away with that.
Speaker 4You have great chemistry, like you know, like that everybody else has great chemistry, and Meg Ryan have pretty good chemistry, and like the limited relationship, it's just, you know, for whatever reason, just not these force problem.
Speaker 3We're playing with the books.
Speaker 4Oh this is the ultimate guys Being dudes movie.
I mean it really is like the volleyball the like oh yeah in the ladies room, you know, stuff like that, Like it's the ultimate guys being dudes.
This is a broout This is a broout movie which everybody's so sweaty and so shirtless all the time.
Speaker 2It's probably my favorite part of it is watching Val and Tom try to like out bro bro themselves and just end up looking like they have the most sexual tension.
Speaker 3Between anybody and the show.
Speaker 2When they're in each other's faces and they're chomping and you can see like they're all moving around, I'm like, oh, this is so hot.
Speaker 1Nobody can flex their jaw like Tom Cruise, except Lewis Pullman, who did an amazing job of flexing his John Thunderbolts.
So back to Kelly and Tom following her into the bathroom at like the Officers Club or whatever is extremely creepy behavior.
I would be like, I'm calling the cops.
Immediately, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 3I think she knew she could take him.
Speaker 1My god, it was so weird.
Speaker 4If you were making Top Gun today, definitely rewrite, rewrite, rewrite.
Speaker 2That's why he had Jennifer Connelly wear that nighty.
We'll get into that when we get to the next movie.
Speaker 4I'm gonna do not.
Speaker 1Though, I forgot how much they mentioned Penny in the first one.
I was like, okay, I mean they've stuck with the script.
I guess at least forever thinking that playing sand, volleyball and jeans is diabolical.
I've never changed a flexing and going girls not showering.
Speaker 2You're two hours late because you had to go play with the boys.
Speaker 3It's your first date.
Speaker 2You walk in to her home and go, I'm going to get a shower, and she was like, the.
Speaker 1Hell you are.
It's like this, you can sit in your film.
Speaker 3It's like, oh, what are you doing?
But then she's down within ten minutes.
Speaker 1Yeah, in the elevator.
Also her wearing that leather jacket and the elevator with the sleeves pushed up, uncomfortable.
Speaker 4They pull down too far, like you're the unibomber or something.
Speaker 3It's like, yeah, ripping sweat.
Kelly mcguinnis not a drop on her face.
Speaker 1She's the entire time.
Speaker 4She's like me, I'm supposed to be the attractive female lead.
I would never be sweaty.
Speaker 1And Tom Scarett's never sweaty either.
Speaker 3Never know.
Tom Scarett looks great.
Speaker 2He's like, your excuse that scene with the tidy whitey underwear.
Speaker 3Forgot about that one.
Speaker 1No ass on those tidy whiting just like he.
Speaker 2Was pushing it out like you see it, and Tom Scale it's like, oh, I see it.
Speaker 3I'm going to caress your back.
Speaker 1I'm going to be your rear officer.
Speaker 3So what would you say the plot is to this movie?
Speaker 2Because it's kind of confusing when you really think about what actually happens and why.
Speaker 4Yeah, the plot is airplanes.
I mean seriously, like it's it's there's no substantial plot and there's weird whiplash moments where it's like, wait, we're being attacked now and we have to suddenly fight like Soviets, but not the Soviets because we're not gonna call mystery nation who's suddenly fighting us.
But we're at peace, but now we're not because we need you to have a redemption arc, you.
Speaker 1Know, like there's airspace and also there's a trophy on the line.
Speaker 4The trophy's still there too on the wall.
No, there's no plot.
I mean, it's it's it's supposed to be and it's a I would I would even say that that's not what it's for.
You know, it's it's supposed to just be like movie theater, big airplanes, battleships as you know, spike slow motion, spiking the volleyball.
It's just point.
Speaker 1Yeah, your point is there is no point, which I love about it.
I like being able to just watch a mindless movie.
Speaker 3Sometimes it's the best, just especially when so musically fun.
Is this one?
Speaker 2The first scene when they sing love and Feeling that Kelly McGinnis is so ridiculous.
Speaker 3It's like, do you guys practice this together?
I would have turned around and be like, what are you doing.
Speaker 1It's like every choir girl's fever dream to have a bunch of men singing at her in uniform, and.
Speaker 2I'd be like, I'll take Val Kilmer please.
Yeah, I can say, right over your little head.
Speaker 3Tom Cruise is one.
Speaker 2Let's pour one out for Tom Cruise's unibrawally only in the eighties.
Speaker 1It's good.
I was like, wait a minute, where did this come from?
And also, everybody's teeth is just teething in this mooth.
I love it.
Speaker 3I love I love it so much.
He had that massive one in Legend.
Speaker 4They go for miles.
I mean those teeth smart, You got.
Speaker 1The one in the center of his face.
They've kind of fixed it these days.
Speaker 3His Patricia Arquette.
Speaker 1To Cruise.
Speaker 2I yeah, well, I was telling Haley this movie.
You know, I've always been I always fall in love with movie people.
It's what I've done my entire life.
And I had my dueling fantasy guys from when I was little.
I had Jack from Legend with Tom Cruise and Mad Martigan with Voal Kilmer and Willow and I was much.
Speaker 3I was like, I'm going to take Mad Martigan.
Speaker 1And I had.
Speaker 2Always been on Val Kilmer's side this entire movie.
He's the only one doing the right things.
He's making sure that people say safe.
He that's why he got his name on the wall.
And I was like, I am team val Kilmer, and you can always be my goose.
It's just like the end is so funny.
Speaker 1It's kind of funny.
I was thking about all the parallels between Maverick, which there are a lot of them, the really same story.
Yeah, but it was of course he's gonna go Gamebusters.
They were like, we're not messing with this formula.
Are you kidding me?
But you know that, like the Val Kilmer character is sort of supposed to be Glenn Powell's, but Glenn is more like VAL's actually a pretty nice guy, and he's nice his friend's.
Speaker 4Asshole, he's even nice, like like after Goose dies and everything, he's like, he's very kind to him.
He's in the locker room, he's like, everybody likes him, you know.
Speaker 1He's like, this isn't personal, and he's like, are you for real, Like, I mean, it's a legitimate concern.
Speaker 4Yeah, he's been like off his rocker ever since Goose died.
And then he's mad.
He's like you, how dare you questioned me?
It's like you haven't flown correctly ever since this happened, and now you want me to put my life in his hands.
Speaker 1You keep bailing out, you can't pull the trigger, like you're not the guy.
Speaker 3And they're like, it's been three days.
Can you get your ship together?
Speaker 1Mavericks?
Speaker 4I know your friends like, dude, no, one minute.
Speaker 1Yeah, suspensive piece of equipment, cruise to the military.
They're like, get him up in the air, get him doing what he's supposed to do the military.
Speaker 3None of that made sense.
Speaker 2So I was like, the more you watch that scene, you're like, so the plane was default and everybody was like you did it.
Speaker 3And then they're like, but then you didn't do it all within three days.
Speaker 1Yeah, well they have to do the due diligence.
Speaker 2The dummy that flies out of that and hits the top.
It is comical, not great, not great.
Speaker 1When they're like bringing the body out of the water dummy, like this is weird.
Why did we have to do this?
Speaker 5He's like, oh man, goodness gracious.
There's so many one liners too.
Speaker 1I just have a lot of really random notes, like why are we wearing polo shirts under our flight suits?
Kind of a thing?
Why are we wearing polo shirts under our flight suits?
And the guy wearing a cowboy hat, I'm like, that would not be allowed, Like we do there, Okay, I'm sorry, you have strict rules.
And Meg Ryan's goofy ass.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, she just pops in and out.
She's like, she's like, you have to marry me, now write Maverick.
Speaker 1Oh my god.
Speaker 3It is funny.
Speaker 2I love the when Kelly McGinnis is doing her thing and at the A class for the first time and Goose and Maverick are being jerks.
Speaker 3And VAL's annoyed.
I'm annoyed.
Speaker 2Everybody's kind of annoyed and it's just like the dynamic he's like, I could feel him staring at him and he had to turn around and look, and I'm like, oh I love this shit, I sing.
Speaker 1Him from the back.
What are you doing?
Nothing so funny?
Speaker 4Everybody's moody all the time?
Speaker 1Oh my god.
Oh yeah, that was a line Kelly mcginna says to him when he's like freaking out.
When I first met you, you were larger than life, and I'm like, that was three weeks ago.
So how about if we just like reel in the whole Because he was like.
Speaker 3Say I'm tall, but without saying I'm tall.
Speaker 1He's so not tall.
Speaker 4Weirdest line in the movie to me that I wrote down, you can be my wingman anytime.
And the response is bullshit, you can be mine?
Speaker 1Like what any sense?
Why?
Speaker 4Why?
And then he's supposed to be the emotional supposed to be the emotional climax of the movie.
You can be mine?
Okay, I just said you could be mine?
Like what kind of responses that?
Speaker 1I think?
It's just like, Oh, it's macho men.
I think that's what that's all.
That's all that's supposed to be.
That's this movie.
Speaker 4That's the plot.
Macho man, Yeah, high fives, fist bumps.
Speaker 3I feel the need the need first me.
Speaker 1I actually found that to be very cringe.
It is cringe.
Speaker 4There's a lot of.
Speaker 3Oh they play sitting on the dock of the bay a couple of times.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Time he was like I need to sing, not once but twice.
Speaker 1Kelly's playing sitting on the dog of the bay.
He's like, wow, this music.
You're just so cool.
I'm like, what what is that?
Speaker 2Whole scene like she she has the power dynamic going in the beginning, and I'm like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3Show that that young and what's what's up?
I know about this?
And then he changes the dynamic like that and then we get that steamy scene in the dark with the I was like, what is this?
Speaker 4This movie, by the way, rated PG.
It just shows you how things have changed.
This is ag rated movie.
Speaker 1Not a lot happens.
We're big.
Speaker 4I mean, if you break down the language, there's a couple of a couple of GD bombs in there.
Speaker 2You know, damn, come on now they say God like the drinking game in this is just to drink every time they say God, damn you Maverick Because it's so many times, and it starts right away, like, god damn you Maverick for doing the tilt thing when they go, you know, the one thing you're not supposed to do is tap the what is it tap the tower?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 4Yeah, the fly buzz the tower?
Is that what they call it?
Yeah?
Speaker 1Well, I also hate like the f plot line of his dad was some kind of ace pilot too, but he he got like whatever dishonorably discharged, you know, whatever the whole thing is.
And then Tom Scarre's character is like, no, he did everything right, and I'm like, what, why didn't.
Speaker 3You stick.
Speaker 4Out of nowhere?
Like told him, told him a story about how he's basically like a martyr, like saved all these people, and they're just like, but we never told anyone.
I mean we said he was a piece of crap and flew into a mountain or whatever.
Speaker 1The dynamics of the Vietnam War.
I guess that's why they're doing I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3I just I thought it was I needed somebody to blame it all on.
Speaker 1But like blame what?
Speaker 2Thanks for giving us a lot of background on exactly what you guys are talking about.
Speaker 3They're like onto the next scene.
Speaker 1It is already a look, it didn't need to be any longer.
Speaker 2Cringe cringe line number five hundred and sixty four, Take me to bed or Lose Me Forever.
Speaker 1It's so ridiculous.
Pete.
Speaker 3Sorry to Pete's I have nothing against Pete, but it's pretty funny.
Speaker 4That just seems Pete and Mavericks right there and they call well.
Speaker 1The funniest part I think is that Goose's name is.
Speaker 2Nick, Nick, Nick, Pete and Nick.
Oh, you can't get more normal eighties.
I was like, it's like naming the cast of American Psycho.
Everyone's like Bob, you know, Josh.
Speaker 1Tom the true American Psycho.
Speaker 2There was a couple of ridiculous lines that God, what was the one?
It was like, I'm hard and me and Ken just started dying.
Speaker 3I have to find it.
Speaker 1He's a guy who talks.
Speaker 4About Yeah, it's when they're in the room for the first time and they're talking about top Gun and he leans over to him and he just says like, I'm hard.
What does he say, Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1It's so something like don't tease me or something, Yeah.
Speaker 4Doesn't call him weird or doesn't say like dude, shut up, like he's flying.
Speaker 3He's like, I got it.
Speaker 2I got it.
Speaker 3Don't come it hard.
We all heard it, we get it.
Speaker 4We get it.
Speaker 3Just dying laughing.
Speaker 1Oh my god.
Speaker 4It's like you can ride my tail anytime.
Direct line from by the way, it's the best.
Speaker 1I love the line.
They were abused children, right.
I was like, damn, oh my god.
And then the hard cut to val slowly twirling that pin and his angers in the first class.
He's like, not doing a very good job twirling.
Speaker 3You guys aren't famous.
Speaker 4It's supposed to be intimidating.
Yeah, he's like twirling.
I don't know why.
I like to get it.
He's like flexing his finger, dexterity or something.
I don't know what the point of that.
Speaker 1Is hardcore parkour, I know.
Speaker 3And then then our outfits are all so gay too.
It's like sleep away camp when they all have.
Speaker 2The crop tops and the cutaway shorts and they're like we're men playing baseball, Like yeah, you boys.
Speaker 1There's a lot of unnecessary like somebody's wearing cowboy boots at one time, Like why are you wearing cowboy boots in San Diego, California?
Like, yes, it makes it.
Speaker 4It's no earthly sense.
It's supposed to be the military, but they want it to also be like we're a bunch of you know, rough and tumble cowboys who don't listen to authority either.
So you can't really have both those things.
You can't really be like, we don't listen to authority and we do whatever we want, we go off half cocked into battle.
But then also you you're it's the military, like, you can't do that.
So it's but they have to have it both ways.
Speaker 1Well, you know, pilots are like socially fighter pilots, they're like surgeons, right, like you have to be kind of crazy to do what you're doing, because you do.
You have to have that complex.
So that's that's all of this is like, oh you all have this hero complex of being or a god complex.
It's more true to what they are.
Speaker 2Well, they think just seeing the jet the jet stuff is so cool and you and I, Hilly have seen the Blue Angels.
Speaker 3Have you ever seen the Blue Angels before?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 4I haven't.
Speaker 2They're so cool and like the planes in this I know Mavericks is a F fourteen Tomcat and those things like they are nasty and they're still kind of the fastest ones up there, and I think, what is it the lackeyed Martin or the bad guys or I can't remember, Like it's either the sky the Skyhawk or the I know I have it down here.
Speaker 3Do oh the ski Oh heat, there's oh though, and.
Speaker 2Then there's the F eighteen hornet Boeings and that was Val Kilmer's.
Speaker 3They're all just so cool.
There was like eleven different planes in this.
Speaker 4Jets, motorcycles, planes, cute, it's.
Speaker 1All here me with his jet stream or whatever the hell happens.
Speaker 2I oh, okay, talking about unhinged and glad you said motorcycle.
How about when she drives him down in her fancy little roadster car almost crashing and killing people.
Speaker 1Almost causes a six car accident, Like I'm sorry just because he said that, you called him like, let's what is happening?
Speaker 4And he was throwing a temper tantrum too.
It was like because she said that his maneuver was bad, which it was and everybody agreed with and he's like, wait, I'm gonna drive off out of here, see you later.
And then it's like, don't chase that man.
Speaker 3I was like he's acting like the female.
Speaker 2Sorry, females, but he's acting like the female this entire movie until that scene when she was like, you're not gonna out crazy pitch me?
She what does she say in uh, Glenn Close says, She's like, you have I have to talk to you or whatever his name is.
God, that's the best movie too, Yes, she she brings it out.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's a hot mess of a movie.
But you know, there's just something there.
Speaker 4That we can't explain it.
You either get it or you don't.
Ye most people do.
Speaker 3I'll not be ignored.
That's the line.
I'll not be ignored.
So we lose what two people in this Holly does Hollywood die?
His plane blows up?
Speaker 1Does he ject?
Speaker 4I think he ejects.
I think we see the parachute, so we only lose goose.
Yeah.
Speaker 2Do you believe that that scene was real where they have the two planes over top of each other?
Speaker 1It was, wasn't it?
Speaker 2I thought so, I wouldn't want to look it up.
I wanted to ask you guys, because me and Ken have been arguing about it.
Speaker 4I was always under the assumption that it was, but I don't.
I've never actually looked that as yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1I believe like one of the real pilots could have done that.
Speaker 3But it's like, you're not supposed to do that, No, take a selfie anything.
Speaker 1The point in the second one, he does it again to Rooster and it's like, oh, look at me.
You know, it's the same thing where you're like, okay, that's nice.
I was inverted the way he talks to her in that first class shut up.
Speaker 3I was inverted.
And she's like, I'm going to destroy you, your asshole, you know.
Speaker 2He yeah, I don't know what happened in that bungalow, that beautiful beachfront bungalow.
Go ahead, I should go work for the army.
Yeah, astrophysicist or whatever.
She's like, I'm an astrophysicist.
Speaker 1I got that job in Washington, d C.
I'm like, bitch, you don't want to go to Washington, d C.
You're in California right now, Like, yeah, that's the problem.
Do you want to leave?
It sounds great and it is great, and it's not that sweaty there, So I still don't know why everybody was sweating.
Speaker 4So I have to say that it's almost like it's almost like they were doing an snl skit like levels of sweat, Like it's like that, like they were playing on a they're so they had to have had someone like off camera just spraying them in the face before every take, because there's no explanation that that.
I mean, there's no explanation other than that they were just constantly spraying them with water.
Speaker 1There wouldn't be air conditioning in nineteen eighty six, Like, there wouldn't be widespread air conditioning in for sure, the aircraft carriers, right, because those things are old.
Yeah, and then probably I mean even now, like people in California, they don't all have a sea so because if you live by the ocean, why was beautiful breeze so like, I'm sure that's part of it.
I'm sure nineteen eighty six it was just real hot.
Speaker 4And we see it.
I mean every one of those true to it, every one of those briefing rooms.
It must have smelled god awful, all those sour coffee, plus the things long pants, cigar smoke, gross awful.
Speaker 2The polyester, lots of alcro so much, lots of whitey tidies, my god, the locker scenes.
Speaker 1I mean, if they were wearing them at all, everybody's just lounging around in their I guess in their sweat box, wrote mine eyes like a sauna.
Speaker 3We spend a lot of time there, So thank you a lot of time.
Thank you, Scott.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1I appreciated it.
Oh it's a good time.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2And it's like it's a little chaotic because the movie's chaotic.
It's it's hard to kind of make sense of it.
It It just worked, and I'm I'll always appreciate it.
I wonder why they waited so long to do another one, because you would feel like they could kind of have kept this story going with Tom Cruise's character and not wait, I don't know, in twenty five years or whatever they did.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's a good question because I mean they could have the high point to do it would have been like the nineties or something.
It would have blown up, would have been huge if they had done a sequel to it.
Speaker 1I mean, it worked out in Tom Cruise's favor for sure.
I don't I think, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe I'm speaking out of lack of knowledge, but I feel like just doing follow up sequels like yeah, it was done, but I just don't know that they saw it as a franchise.
Yet you know what I mean, like things weren't things that were franchises, were things like the Star Trek movies and stuff like that that weren't Like it wasn't like, oh, the poster movie for American Military.
Speaker 2They were doing like Rambo at that time in the Jean clavvent Damn movies and all the ones are the you know, the ones that kind of action e movies that did have die Hard one, two, three, that Tom.
Speaker 1Cruise was too busy.
I mean he was making a movie very popularly after and then he started a Mission Impossible, and.
Speaker 4Then it was like, ah, it is different now, Like now it's immediately like the movie successful.
We're talking franchise in the next conversation, whereas in the eighties you're not necessarily doing that for like every successful movie.
Speaker 3I mean, we're here because they're doing a third one.
Is that that's confirmed?
Speaker 1Right?
Speaker 3They're doing a three?
Speaker 1He says, they're doing a three.
Speaker 3He just got backed in the face with age.
Have you seen him recently, Tommy, it's catching up.
Speaker 1I think it's the longer hair.
He could get away with it when he was younger, and I think he's too old for it now.
Speaker 3Yeah, that little boycot it's not working.
Speaker 4Yeah, the flippy hair.
Speaker 1I yeah, they are going to do a third one.
Why wouldn't you his?
I mean Maverick made Did they make a billion money?
Speaker 4I don't think it made a billion, but it did very well.
Speaker 1To me.
I love that movie.
I'll give it a billion dollars since I watched it so many times on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3We watched it.
We put it on immediately after this one, and it's kind.
Speaker 4Of jarring to do because, uh one point four nine six billion.
I knew it cowcause I remember very much.
Speaker 1To see it.
We saw an Imax, which I never go to Imax because I don't know you sitting in those seats in our town.
But like, our theater was packed, and I was like, holy shit, this movie.
Speaker 2And we walked in right as it was starting, perfect timing.
I sat down and it was just us and like a bunch of people older than us.
Speaker 3It was very funny.
The woman she was like, oh, you picked the perfect times to come in, didn't you.
Speaker 4It's starting.
Speaker 3Did you see the first one?
And I was like, Jesus Christ, what happened?
But she was so happy.
She was so happy to be there and who you can't you can't not move, you cannot move.
Speaker 1Not seeing the lady next to me was about to have a heart attack during the climactive part of the film.
She was struggling.
I was like, honey, it'll be okay.
It's just.
Speaker 3Tom Cruise is still alive.
To worry.
Speaker 1I know.
We think he does make damn good movies.
We'll say that he does, and.
Speaker 3This is a damn fine movie.
Speaker 1It is a dam it is.
Speaker 3You haven't watched Top Gun in a while, watch it again.
Speaker 4Don't go into it expect in a you know, an emotional arc, and don't go into it expecting this like deep lore characters that are fleshed out on screen, like don't don't.
Just get your head out of your ass and just enjoy good time.
Speaker 1You know.
Speaker 2Tom Cruise tries so hard to have emotions in this, the crying scenes, when he's squeezing it out, he's like.
Speaker 1And you're like, oh, that's just the more sweat.
Speaker 3Actually, yeah, that's all he has to do is just shake his head really hard.
He's like this douma camera.
Speaker 1Yeah.
And then he tries to do brooding, which he does brooding better as he ages.
But he doesn't brood very well in this movie.
Speaker 4Absolutely not.
Speaker 2He's got it nailed by interview with the vampire.
All he does is brood in that with that blonde hair.
Speaker 1I love it.
I love it.
Another symbol.
Speaker 4Yes, it is just the Tom Cruise cast after a while, Oh my.
Speaker 2God, we just binge your Selverle Top Cruise movies.
I don't see the problem.
Speaker 1Actually after it, so I watched two and a half Mission Impossibles yesterday, because after I watched Top Gun, I was like, well, hell, I was gonna watch Maverick, but it's not on Prime anymore.
Speaker 3I was like, what does this been here for eighteen months?
Speaker 1So I was like, fine, I watched all the Mission Impossible.
Since then I was like, should I watch every Tom Cruise movie just for fun start with?
Speaker 4There's a lot of podcast material.
You could be yet it for a while.
Speaker 1It'd be a good time.
All right, all right?
Speaker 3Anybody got anything else?
Any file thought?
Final thoughts?
Speaker 4Oh uh?
One debate.
I've always heard that I forgot to talk about I should have talked about it earlier.
Whenever we're talking about the love scene, the infamous love scene, it's okay.
The debate I've always heard is like is it gross or is it not?
The tongue stuff against the back draw against the black yes, so she the subset.
Anybody who's seen top Gun, I feel like has had this conversation like is it gross?
Speaker 1Is it not?
Speaker 4You know that whole thing, And I was just reminded of that watching this.
I had forgotten about tongue gate.
Speaker 3I'm land that it's dark.
Speaker 2It would have been a lot grosser, wouldn't and that they don't land or not.
Speaker 4He has to be sweaty.
He's always sweaty.
Speaker 3I'm taking a shower in your shower now.
Speaker 1Well that was like she was like, because that's like I was like when she did it, I was like, oh, I forgot about that.
But then I was like, did you know, like whatever do you?
Speaker 3I guess who cares like each other's Moeller's I don't mind.
Speaker 4What I mind?
Speaker 3It is what you do in the next one.
Speaker 4And we will get there, not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1Sexless scene.
Speaker 3Jesus Christ, we will get there.
Speaker 2My favorite thing that they did at the end is then they go through the credits and show everybody's picture and character name.
Speaker 3They should do that more.
I think I love it, but a good way to end it.
Speaker 1Agreed, absolutely, And I love that they kept all of the fonts the same and the new stuff like I love, I love shit like that.
It's good.
Yeah, do what works, Hollywood, and.
Speaker 2Keep tipping the towers queens, all right, as anybody everything that they want to plug before we get out of here.
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So check out Strandedpanda dot com.
Yeah, all kinds of stuff going on.
Speaker 3Yeah, all our shows are on stranded panda dot com.
What'd you got, Jay?
Speaker 4Yeah, just uh stranupanda dot com.
I'll echo it again.
And I mean we're all over there on various things.
So if you like our takes on top Gun, you probably like our takes on everything else.
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