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Top Gun (1986)

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Speaker 1

Today on Binger's Assemble, we are tributing Val Kilmer.

We are enjoying military show offism, and we are watching and talking about Top Gun right after these ads we have no control over.

Speaker 2

Welcome to the Fingers Assemble, the show where we watch movies so you don't have to.

Speaker 3

I'm Ashley Coffin.

Speaker 1

I'm Haley Hobbs, and I'm Jasons, and we're.

Speaker 3

Kicking off summer with Top Gun.

Speaker 1

Baby.

Oh yeah, Highway to the danger Zone.

Speaker 4

I don't have any aviators, but I was going to wear them, but I cannot find them.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, we'll just make a cover art for this one with you, like with paste it over.

Speaker 2

Ken has a Top Gun bomber jacket, like with the real thing.

It's a mess now and I've always wanted to get it restored for him, but it is like.

Speaker 3

The coolest thing ever.

Speaker 4

I think I bought aviators like twenty minutes after seeing Top Gun the first time.

I mean it was like immediately, like I was like, this will finally make me cool.

Speaker 2

If everybody looks pretty cool in aviators, I mean, you can't really go wrong, It's true.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Like I said, we initially wanted to do this because A, they haven't been done yet on Ventures Assemble, and B it was not long after Val Kilmer had died and we were like, oh, you know, what do we do to give him a tribute?

And this is a perfect way to do it, And especially, like Ashley said, we're kicking off summer, and what better way than to go to Miramar and sweat your ass off on the Indian Ocean have a great time.

Speaker 3

Yack.

Speaker 4

I just had to get.

Speaker 1

It out of the way, right.

Speaker 4

There's gonna be a lot of sweat talk in this cast.

Speaker 3

He's so sweaty.

Speaker 2

Honestly though, it's hard to remember back to when I first saw this movie, but and we I've seen so many movies and it's so hard to say, like what the coolest opening of any movie is ever?

But the way that the score goes right Nick God, Damn Kenny Loggins Danger Zone.

It comes in so hot and it just makes a biggest smile on my face.

And I'm like, does any movie start cooler than this?

Speaker 1

No?

Speaker 4

And You're like, yeah, America, Yeah, it's too iconic, which is what they wanted.

They were like, you want to use an aircraft carry, you want to use fider jets, like absolutely here.

You can use literally anything, because everyone's going to join the navy after watching this movie.

I mean, if I had been eighteen and seeing this movie, I would have for sure joined the Navy.

Like no questions asked, You're.

Speaker 1

Like, bring me in right now, right I get.

Speaker 2

To make a fancy cool nickname, which every time that we're reminded that his name is Pete Mitchell, we're like, Pete, Hey.

Speaker 1

Pete, can I hear Pete?

Speaker 2

But this soundtrack, like this, it's absolute banger after banger.

It was the top of the chart, like this movie in nineteen eighty six dominated everything.

Speaker 3

It's actually my ringtone if my phone doesn't.

Speaker 2

Ring anymore, but when I have to have it on, I always forget, and I'm like bun.

Speaker 3

And it just makes me happy every time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Harold faultmeron his like purely electronic score that totally slaps.

Speaker 2

Like Kenny Loggins.

Kenny Loggins is to this what Queen is to Highlander.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, Yes, you're so right.

Now that I've watched that, God for Saken.

Speaker 3

The whole store, and it's like Prince for Batman.

Speaker 2

In the eighties, you just had these scores that went with the movie or the soundtracks, not the score that went with the movies, and it was fun.

Speaker 3

We don't do that anymore.

Speaker 1

But wait, what are okay?

So they sing?

They do Kenny Loggins.

We have Take My breath Away fifty bazillion times.

Speaker 4

Yes, that's where I was going to go with this next was that?

Like?

The soundtrack's great, but there was times where I was literally like, are we literally playing take My breath Away again?

Speaker 3

They hold it back for.

Speaker 2

A while though, You're like, I know it's coming, and then once it starts, it never stopped.

Speaker 4

They're like seven times they look at it.

They literally exchange a look and it's like I was like, are you seriously doing it again?

Like they're like I.

Speaker 1

Said to Ashley Uster, like, hey, this is the story.

Do you get it?

Do you get that this is the love story?

In case you didn't know that this was the love story, here's take My Broadaway music cue again.

Speaker 2

Honestly, if we even want to call it that, I always want I've seen this movie one hundred million times and go in thinking that he's the one chasing after her, but that is not what happens in this movie.

Speaker 3

She is so desperate.

Speaker 4

I think the romance is definitely something to talk about, and I'm sure it'll come up a lot, but I just I do not think that Tom Cruise and Kelly McGillis have that much chemistry.

If anything, I think it's like it's negative chemistry.

It's not even that it's like bordered like The Boy Girl.

It's like it detracts a little bit from the movie in my opinion, like you can see what they're trying to do, but it's just like I don't know whose fault it is even I haven't figured out whose fault it is yet, but it's but it's like they just don't they don't.

Speaker 1

I don't know.

Speaker 4

They just don't do not have good chemistry.

And that's not a new, like flashy take, Like a lot of people have said that ever since this movie came out, But it stood out to me like a sore thumb watching this I've seen this movie in like probably ten years, but it just it stood out like a sore thumb watching this time around.

Speaker 1

Yeah, like they're supposed to be this power dynamic between them because she's supposed to be his instructor and she's got like White House security clearance, which like nobody cares about and he's supposed to be like the young hot shot, but it doesn't play that way, like it actually plays that their equals or that almost that he's a little more a little more power than her, and so it's just like I don't care.

Speaker 3

And he's so rude.

Speaker 2

Like the first time that they're in class, I was like, you shut up, and you show her some respect.

Speaker 4

She's an astrophysicist.

Yeah you're just Pete, And shut.

Speaker 3

Up, Goose.

Why aren't we even opening your mouth?

Speaker 1

No, I did love Goose like sticking up for himself in the first class where Pete's like I did this, and because it's like we we did this, and he's like, I'm sorry we did this.

I was like, that's right, Goose.

You were there too.

Don't let him get away with that.

Speaker 4

You have great chemistry, like you know, like that everybody else has great chemistry, and Meg Ryan have pretty good chemistry, and like the limited relationship, it's just, you know, for whatever reason, just not these force problem.

Speaker 3

We're playing with the books.

Speaker 4

Oh this is the ultimate guys Being dudes movie.

I mean it really is like the volleyball the like oh yeah in the ladies room, you know, stuff like that, Like it's the ultimate guys being dudes.

This is a broout This is a broout movie which everybody's so sweaty and so shirtless all the time.

Speaker 2

It's probably my favorite part of it is watching Val and Tom try to like out bro bro themselves and just end up looking like they have the most sexual tension.

Speaker 3

Between anybody and the show.

Speaker 2

When they're in each other's faces and they're chomping and you can see like they're all moving around, I'm like, oh, this is so hot.

Speaker 1

Nobody can flex their jaw like Tom Cruise, except Lewis Pullman, who did an amazing job of flexing his John Thunderbolts.

So back to Kelly and Tom following her into the bathroom at like the Officers Club or whatever is extremely creepy behavior.

I would be like, I'm calling the cops.

Immediately, get the hell out of here.

Speaker 3

I think she knew she could take him.

Speaker 1

My god, it was so weird.

Speaker 4

If you were making Top Gun today, definitely rewrite, rewrite, rewrite.

Speaker 2

That's why he had Jennifer Connelly wear that nighty.

We'll get into that when we get to the next movie.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna do not.

Speaker 1

Though, I forgot how much they mentioned Penny in the first one.

I was like, okay, I mean they've stuck with the script.

I guess at least forever thinking that playing sand, volleyball and jeans is diabolical.

I've never changed a flexing and going girls not showering.

Speaker 2

You're two hours late because you had to go play with the boys.

Speaker 3

It's your first date.

Speaker 2

You walk in to her home and go, I'm going to get a shower, and she was like, the.

Speaker 1

Hell you are.

It's like this, you can sit in your film.

Speaker 3

It's like, oh, what are you doing?

But then she's down within ten minutes.

Speaker 1

Yeah, in the elevator.

Also her wearing that leather jacket and the elevator with the sleeves pushed up, uncomfortable.

Speaker 4

They pull down too far, like you're the unibomber or something.

Speaker 3

It's like, yeah, ripping sweat.

Kelly mcguinnis not a drop on her face.

Speaker 1

She's the entire time.

Speaker 4

She's like me, I'm supposed to be the attractive female lead.

I would never be sweaty.

Speaker 1

And Tom Scarett's never sweaty either.

Speaker 3

Never know.

Tom Scarett looks great.

Speaker 2

He's like, your excuse that scene with the tidy whitey underwear.

Speaker 3

Forgot about that one.

Speaker 1

No ass on those tidy whiting just like he.

Speaker 2

Was pushing it out like you see it, and Tom Scale it's like, oh, I see it.

Speaker 3

I'm going to caress your back.

Speaker 1

I'm going to be your rear officer.

Speaker 3

So what would you say the plot is to this movie?

Speaker 2

Because it's kind of confusing when you really think about what actually happens and why.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the plot is airplanes.

I mean seriously, like it's it's there's no substantial plot and there's weird whiplash moments where it's like, wait, we're being attacked now and we have to suddenly fight like Soviets, but not the Soviets because we're not gonna call mystery nation who's suddenly fighting us.

But we're at peace, but now we're not because we need you to have a redemption arc, you.

Speaker 1

Know, like there's airspace and also there's a trophy on the line.

Speaker 4

The trophy's still there too on the wall.

No, there's no plot.

I mean, it's it's it's supposed to be and it's a I would I would even say that that's not what it's for.

You know, it's it's supposed to just be like movie theater, big airplanes, battleships as you know, spike slow motion, spiking the volleyball.

It's just point.

Speaker 1

Yeah, your point is there is no point, which I love about it.

I like being able to just watch a mindless movie.

Speaker 3

Sometimes it's the best, just especially when so musically fun.

Is this one?

Speaker 2

The first scene when they sing love and Feeling that Kelly McGinnis is so ridiculous.

Speaker 3

It's like, do you guys practice this together?

I would have turned around and be like, what are you doing.

Speaker 1

It's like every choir girl's fever dream to have a bunch of men singing at her in uniform, and.

Speaker 2

I'd be like, I'll take Val Kilmer please.

Yeah, I can say, right over your little head.

Speaker 3

Tom Cruise is one.

Speaker 2

Let's pour one out for Tom Cruise's unibrawally only in the eighties.

Speaker 1

It's good.

I was like, wait a minute, where did this come from?

And also, everybody's teeth is just teething in this mooth.

I love it.

Speaker 3

I love I love it so much.

He had that massive one in Legend.

Speaker 4

They go for miles.

I mean those teeth smart, You got.

Speaker 1

The one in the center of his face.

They've kind of fixed it these days.

Speaker 3

His Patricia Arquette.

Speaker 1

To Cruise.

Speaker 2

I yeah, well, I was telling Haley this movie.

You know, I've always been I always fall in love with movie people.

It's what I've done my entire life.

And I had my dueling fantasy guys from when I was little.

I had Jack from Legend with Tom Cruise and Mad Martigan with Voal Kilmer and Willow and I was much.

Speaker 3

I was like, I'm going to take Mad Martigan.

Speaker 1

And I had.

Speaker 2

Always been on Val Kilmer's side this entire movie.

He's the only one doing the right things.

He's making sure that people say safe.

He that's why he got his name on the wall.

And I was like, I am team val Kilmer, and you can always be my goose.

It's just like the end is so funny.

Speaker 1

It's kind of funny.

I was thking about all the parallels between Maverick, which there are a lot of them, the really same story.

Yeah, but it was of course he's gonna go Gamebusters.

They were like, we're not messing with this formula.

Are you kidding me?

But you know that, like the Val Kilmer character is sort of supposed to be Glenn Powell's, but Glenn is more like VAL's actually a pretty nice guy, and he's nice his friend's.

Speaker 4

Asshole, he's even nice, like like after Goose dies and everything, he's like, he's very kind to him.

He's in the locker room, he's like, everybody likes him, you know.

Speaker 1

He's like, this isn't personal, and he's like, are you for real, Like, I mean, it's a legitimate concern.

Speaker 4

Yeah, he's been like off his rocker ever since Goose died.

And then he's mad.

He's like you, how dare you questioned me?

It's like you haven't flown correctly ever since this happened, and now you want me to put my life in his hands.

Speaker 1

You keep bailing out, you can't pull the trigger, like you're not the guy.

Speaker 3

And they're like, it's been three days.

Can you get your ship together?

Speaker 1

Mavericks?

Speaker 4

I know your friends like, dude, no, one minute.

Speaker 1

Yeah, suspensive piece of equipment, cruise to the military.

They're like, get him up in the air, get him doing what he's supposed to do the military.

Speaker 3

None of that made sense.

Speaker 2

So I was like, the more you watch that scene, you're like, so the plane was default and everybody was like you did it.

Speaker 3

And then they're like, but then you didn't do it all within three days.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well they have to do the due diligence.

Speaker 2

The dummy that flies out of that and hits the top.

It is comical, not great, not great.

Speaker 1

When they're like bringing the body out of the water dummy, like this is weird.

Why did we have to do this?

Speaker 5

He's like, oh man, goodness gracious.

There's so many one liners too.

Speaker 1

I just have a lot of really random notes, like why are we wearing polo shirts under our flight suits?

Kind of a thing?

Why are we wearing polo shirts under our flight suits?

And the guy wearing a cowboy hat, I'm like, that would not be allowed, Like we do there, Okay, I'm sorry, you have strict rules.

And Meg Ryan's goofy ass.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, she just pops in and out.

She's like, she's like, you have to marry me, now write Maverick.

Speaker 1

Oh my god.

Speaker 3

It is funny.

Speaker 2

I love the when Kelly McGinnis is doing her thing and at the A class for the first time and Goose and Maverick are being jerks.

Speaker 3

And VAL's annoyed.

I'm annoyed.

Speaker 2

Everybody's kind of annoyed and it's just like the dynamic he's like, I could feel him staring at him and he had to turn around and look, and I'm like, oh I love this shit, I sing.

Speaker 1

Him from the back.

What are you doing?

Nothing so funny?

Speaker 4

Everybody's moody all the time?

Speaker 1

Oh my god.

Oh yeah, that was a line Kelly mcginna says to him when he's like freaking out.

When I first met you, you were larger than life, and I'm like, that was three weeks ago.

So how about if we just like reel in the whole Because he was like.

Speaker 3

Say I'm tall, but without saying I'm tall.

Speaker 1

He's so not tall.

Speaker 4

Weirdest line in the movie to me that I wrote down, you can be my wingman anytime.

And the response is bullshit, you can be mine?

Speaker 1

Like what any sense?

Why?

Speaker 4

Why?

And then he's supposed to be the emotional supposed to be the emotional climax of the movie.

You can be mine?

Okay, I just said you could be mine?

Like what kind of responses that?

Speaker 1

I think?

It's just like, Oh, it's macho men.

I think that's what that's all.

That's all that's supposed to be.

That's this movie.

Speaker 4

That's the plot.

Macho man, Yeah, high fives, fist bumps.

Speaker 3

I feel the need the need first me.

Speaker 1

I actually found that to be very cringe.

It is cringe.

Speaker 4

There's a lot of.

Speaker 3

Oh they play sitting on the dock of the bay a couple of times.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Time he was like I need to sing, not once but twice.

Speaker 1

Kelly's playing sitting on the dog of the bay.

He's like, wow, this music.

You're just so cool.

I'm like, what what is that?

Speaker 2

Whole scene like she she has the power dynamic going in the beginning, and I'm like, yeah, you.

Speaker 3

Show that that young and what's what's up?

I know about this?

And then he changes the dynamic like that and then we get that steamy scene in the dark with the I was like, what is this?

Speaker 4

This movie, by the way, rated PG.

It just shows you how things have changed.

This is ag rated movie.

Speaker 1

Not a lot happens.

We're big.

Speaker 4

I mean, if you break down the language, there's a couple of a couple of GD bombs in there.

Speaker 2

You know, damn, come on now they say God like the drinking game in this is just to drink every time they say God, damn you Maverick Because it's so many times, and it starts right away, like, god damn you Maverick for doing the tilt thing when they go, you know, the one thing you're not supposed to do is tap the what is it tap the tower?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 4

Yeah, the fly buzz the tower?

Is that what they call it?

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Well, I also hate like the f plot line of his dad was some kind of ace pilot too, but he he got like whatever dishonorably discharged, you know, whatever the whole thing is.

And then Tom Scarre's character is like, no, he did everything right, and I'm like, what, why didn't.

Speaker 3

You stick.

Speaker 4

Out of nowhere?

Like told him, told him a story about how he's basically like a martyr, like saved all these people, and they're just like, but we never told anyone.

I mean we said he was a piece of crap and flew into a mountain or whatever.

Speaker 1

The dynamics of the Vietnam War.

I guess that's why they're doing I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3

I just I thought it was I needed somebody to blame it all on.

Speaker 1

But like blame what?

Speaker 2

Thanks for giving us a lot of background on exactly what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 3

They're like onto the next scene.

Speaker 1

It is already a look, it didn't need to be any longer.

Speaker 2

Cringe cringe line number five hundred and sixty four, Take me to bed or Lose Me Forever.

Speaker 1

It's so ridiculous.

Pete.

Speaker 3

Sorry to Pete's I have nothing against Pete, but it's pretty funny.

Speaker 4

That just seems Pete and Mavericks right there and they call well.

Speaker 1

The funniest part I think is that Goose's name is.

Speaker 2

Nick, Nick, Nick, Pete and Nick.

Oh, you can't get more normal eighties.

I was like, it's like naming the cast of American Psycho.

Everyone's like Bob, you know, Josh.

Speaker 1

Tom the true American Psycho.

Speaker 2

There was a couple of ridiculous lines that God, what was the one?

It was like, I'm hard and me and Ken just started dying.

Speaker 3

I have to find it.

Speaker 1

He's a guy who talks.

Speaker 4

About Yeah, it's when they're in the room for the first time and they're talking about top Gun and he leans over to him and he just says like, I'm hard.

What does he say, Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1

It's so something like don't tease me or something, Yeah.

Speaker 4

Doesn't call him weird or doesn't say like dude, shut up, like he's flying.

Speaker 3

He's like, I got it.

Speaker 2

I got it.

Speaker 3

Don't come it hard.

We all heard it, we get it.

Speaker 4

We get it.

Speaker 3

Just dying laughing.

Speaker 1

Oh my god.

Speaker 4

It's like you can ride my tail anytime.

Direct line from by the way, it's the best.

Speaker 1

I love the line.

They were abused children, right.

I was like, damn, oh my god.

And then the hard cut to val slowly twirling that pin and his angers in the first class.

He's like, not doing a very good job twirling.

Speaker 3

You guys aren't famous.

Speaker 4

It's supposed to be intimidating.

Yeah, he's like twirling.

I don't know why.

I like to get it.

He's like flexing his finger, dexterity or something.

I don't know what the point of that.

Speaker 1

Is hardcore parkour, I know.

Speaker 3

And then then our outfits are all so gay too.

It's like sleep away camp when they all have.

Speaker 2

The crop tops and the cutaway shorts and they're like we're men playing baseball, Like yeah, you boys.

Speaker 1

There's a lot of unnecessary like somebody's wearing cowboy boots at one time, Like why are you wearing cowboy boots in San Diego, California?

Like, yes, it makes it.

Speaker 4

It's no earthly sense.

It's supposed to be the military, but they want it to also be like we're a bunch of you know, rough and tumble cowboys who don't listen to authority either.

So you can't really have both those things.

You can't really be like, we don't listen to authority and we do whatever we want, we go off half cocked into battle.

But then also you you're it's the military, like, you can't do that.

So it's but they have to have it both ways.

Speaker 1

Well, you know, pilots are like socially fighter pilots, they're like surgeons, right, like you have to be kind of crazy to do what you're doing, because you do.

You have to have that complex.

So that's that's all of this is like, oh you all have this hero complex of being or a god complex.

It's more true to what they are.

Speaker 2

Well, they think just seeing the jet the jet stuff is so cool and you and I, Hilly have seen the Blue Angels.

Speaker 3

Have you ever seen the Blue Angels before?

Speaker 1

No?

Speaker 4

I haven't.

Speaker 2

They're so cool and like the planes in this I know Mavericks is a F fourteen Tomcat and those things like they are nasty and they're still kind of the fastest ones up there, and I think, what is it the lackeyed Martin or the bad guys or I can't remember, Like it's either the sky the Skyhawk or the I know I have it down here.

Speaker 3

Do oh the ski Oh heat, there's oh though, and.

Speaker 2

Then there's the F eighteen hornet Boeings and that was Val Kilmer's.

Speaker 3

They're all just so cool.

There was like eleven different planes in this.

Speaker 4

Jets, motorcycles, planes, cute, it's.

Speaker 1

All here me with his jet stream or whatever the hell happens.

Speaker 2

I oh, okay, talking about unhinged and glad you said motorcycle.

How about when she drives him down in her fancy little roadster car almost crashing and killing people.

Speaker 1

Almost causes a six car accident, Like I'm sorry just because he said that, you called him like, let's what is happening?

Speaker 4

And he was throwing a temper tantrum too.

It was like because she said that his maneuver was bad, which it was and everybody agreed with and he's like, wait, I'm gonna drive off out of here, see you later.

And then it's like, don't chase that man.

Speaker 3

I was like he's acting like the female.

Speaker 2

Sorry, females, but he's acting like the female this entire movie until that scene when she was like, you're not gonna out crazy pitch me?

She what does she say in uh, Glenn Close says, She's like, you have I have to talk to you or whatever his name is.

God, that's the best movie too, Yes, she she brings it out.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's a hot mess of a movie.

But you know, there's just something there.

Speaker 4

That we can't explain it.

You either get it or you don't.

Ye most people do.

Speaker 3

I'll not be ignored.

That's the line.

I'll not be ignored.

So we lose what two people in this Holly does Hollywood die?

His plane blows up?

Speaker 1

Does he ject?

Speaker 4

I think he ejects.

I think we see the parachute, so we only lose goose.

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Do you believe that that scene was real where they have the two planes over top of each other?

Speaker 1

It was, wasn't it?

Speaker 2

I thought so, I wouldn't want to look it up.

I wanted to ask you guys, because me and Ken have been arguing about it.

Speaker 4

I was always under the assumption that it was, but I don't.

I've never actually looked that as yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

I believe like one of the real pilots could have done that.

Speaker 3

But it's like, you're not supposed to do that, No, take a selfie anything.

Speaker 1

The point in the second one, he does it again to Rooster and it's like, oh, look at me.

You know, it's the same thing where you're like, okay, that's nice.

I was inverted the way he talks to her in that first class shut up.

Speaker 3

I was inverted.

And she's like, I'm going to destroy you, your asshole, you know.

Speaker 2

He yeah, I don't know what happened in that bungalow, that beautiful beachfront bungalow.

Go ahead, I should go work for the army.

Yeah, astrophysicist or whatever.

She's like, I'm an astrophysicist.

Speaker 1

I got that job in Washington, d C.

I'm like, bitch, you don't want to go to Washington, d C.

You're in California right now, Like, yeah, that's the problem.

Do you want to leave?

It sounds great and it is great, and it's not that sweaty there, So I still don't know why everybody was sweating.

Speaker 4

So I have to say that it's almost like it's almost like they were doing an snl skit like levels of sweat, Like it's like that, like they were playing on a they're so they had to have had someone like off camera just spraying them in the face before every take, because there's no explanation that that.

I mean, there's no explanation other than that they were just constantly spraying them with water.

Speaker 1

There wouldn't be air conditioning in nineteen eighty six, Like, there wouldn't be widespread air conditioning in for sure, the aircraft carriers, right, because those things are old.

Yeah, and then probably I mean even now, like people in California, they don't all have a sea so because if you live by the ocean, why was beautiful breeze so like, I'm sure that's part of it.

I'm sure nineteen eighty six it was just real hot.

Speaker 4

And we see it.

I mean every one of those true to it, every one of those briefing rooms.

It must have smelled god awful, all those sour coffee, plus the things long pants, cigar smoke, gross awful.

Speaker 2

The polyester, lots of alcro so much, lots of whitey tidies, my god, the locker scenes.

Speaker 1

I mean, if they were wearing them at all, everybody's just lounging around in their I guess in their sweat box, wrote mine eyes like a sauna.

Speaker 3

We spend a lot of time there, So thank you a lot of time.

Thank you, Scott.

I appreciate it.

Speaker 1

I appreciated it.

Oh it's a good time.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And it's like it's a little chaotic because the movie's chaotic.

It's it's hard to kind of make sense of it.

It It just worked, and I'm I'll always appreciate it.

I wonder why they waited so long to do another one, because you would feel like they could kind of have kept this story going with Tom Cruise's character and not wait, I don't know, in twenty five years or whatever they did.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's a good question because I mean they could have the high point to do it would have been like the nineties or something.

It would have blown up, would have been huge if they had done a sequel to it.

Speaker 1

I mean, it worked out in Tom Cruise's favor for sure.

I don't I think, I mean, I don't know.

Maybe I'm speaking out of lack of knowledge, but I feel like just doing follow up sequels like yeah, it was done, but I just don't know that they saw it as a franchise.

Yet you know what I mean, like things weren't things that were franchises, were things like the Star Trek movies and stuff like that that weren't Like it wasn't like, oh, the poster movie for American Military.

Speaker 2

They were doing like Rambo at that time in the Jean clavvent Damn movies and all the ones are the you know, the ones that kind of action e movies that did have die Hard one, two, three, that Tom.

Speaker 1

Cruise was too busy.

I mean he was making a movie very popularly after and then he started a Mission Impossible, and.

Speaker 4

Then it was like, ah, it is different now, Like now it's immediately like the movie successful.

We're talking franchise in the next conversation, whereas in the eighties you're not necessarily doing that for like every successful movie.

Speaker 3

I mean, we're here because they're doing a third one.

Is that that's confirmed?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 3

They're doing a three?

Speaker 1

He says, they're doing a three.

Speaker 3

He just got backed in the face with age.

Have you seen him recently, Tommy, it's catching up.

Speaker 1

I think it's the longer hair.

He could get away with it when he was younger, and I think he's too old for it now.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that little boycot it's not working.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the flippy hair.

Speaker 1

I yeah, they are going to do a third one.

Why wouldn't you his?

I mean Maverick made Did they make a billion money?

Speaker 4

I don't think it made a billion, but it did very well.

Speaker 1

To me.

I love that movie.

I'll give it a billion dollars since I watched it so many times on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 3

We watched it.

We put it on immediately after this one, and it's kind.

Speaker 4

Of jarring to do because, uh one point four nine six billion.

I knew it cowcause I remember very much.

Speaker 1

To see it.

We saw an Imax, which I never go to Imax because I don't know you sitting in those seats in our town.

But like, our theater was packed, and I was like, holy shit, this movie.

Speaker 2

And we walked in right as it was starting, perfect timing.

I sat down and it was just us and like a bunch of people older than us.

Speaker 3

It was very funny.

The woman she was like, oh, you picked the perfect times to come in, didn't you.

Speaker 4

It's starting.

Speaker 3

Did you see the first one?

And I was like, Jesus Christ, what happened?

But she was so happy.

She was so happy to be there and who you can't you can't not move, you cannot move.

Speaker 1

Not seeing the lady next to me was about to have a heart attack during the climactive part of the film.

She was struggling.

I was like, honey, it'll be okay.

It's just.

Speaker 3

Tom Cruise is still alive.

To worry.

Speaker 1

I know.

We think he does make damn good movies.

We'll say that he does, and.

Speaker 3

This is a damn fine movie.

Speaker 1

It is a dam it is.

Speaker 3

You haven't watched Top Gun in a while, watch it again.

Speaker 4

Don't go into it expect in a you know, an emotional arc, and don't go into it expecting this like deep lore characters that are fleshed out on screen, like don't don't.

Just get your head out of your ass and just enjoy good time.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

Tom Cruise tries so hard to have emotions in this, the crying scenes, when he's squeezing it out, he's like.

Speaker 1

And you're like, oh, that's just the more sweat.

Speaker 3

Actually, yeah, that's all he has to do is just shake his head really hard.

He's like this douma camera.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

And then he tries to do brooding, which he does brooding better as he ages.

But he doesn't brood very well in this movie.

Speaker 4

Absolutely not.

Speaker 2

He's got it nailed by interview with the vampire.

All he does is brood in that with that blonde hair.

Speaker 1

I love it.

I love it.

Another symbol.

Speaker 4

Yes, it is just the Tom Cruise cast after a while, Oh my.

Speaker 2

God, we just binge your Selverle Top Cruise movies.

I don't see the problem.

Speaker 1

Actually after it, so I watched two and a half Mission Impossibles yesterday, because after I watched Top Gun, I was like, well, hell, I was gonna watch Maverick, but it's not on Prime anymore.

Speaker 3

I was like, what does this been here for eighteen months?

Speaker 1

So I was like, fine, I watched all the Mission Impossible.

Since then I was like, should I watch every Tom Cruise movie just for fun start with?

Speaker 4

There's a lot of podcast material.

You could be yet it for a while.

Speaker 1

It'd be a good time.

All right, all right?

Speaker 3

Anybody got anything else?

Any file thought?

Final thoughts?

Speaker 4

Oh uh?

One debate.

I've always heard that I forgot to talk about I should have talked about it earlier.

Whenever we're talking about the love scene, the infamous love scene, it's okay.

The debate I've always heard is like is it gross or is it not?

The tongue stuff against the back draw against the black yes, so she the subset.

Anybody who's seen top Gun, I feel like has had this conversation like is it gross?

Speaker 1

Is it not?

Speaker 4

You know that whole thing, And I was just reminded of that watching this.

I had forgotten about tongue gate.

Speaker 3

I'm land that it's dark.

Speaker 2

It would have been a lot grosser, wouldn't and that they don't land or not.

Speaker 4

He has to be sweaty.

He's always sweaty.

Speaker 3

I'm taking a shower in your shower now.

Speaker 1

Well that was like she was like, because that's like I was like when she did it, I was like, oh, I forgot about that.

But then I was like, did you know, like whatever do you?

Speaker 3

I guess who cares like each other's Moeller's I don't mind.

Speaker 4

What I mind?

Speaker 3

It is what you do in the next one.

Speaker 4

And we will get there, not yet, not yet.

Speaker 1

Sexless scene.

Speaker 3

Jesus Christ, we will get there.

Speaker 2

My favorite thing that they did at the end is then they go through the credits and show everybody's picture and character name.

Speaker 3

They should do that more.

I think I love it, but a good way to end it.

Speaker 1

Agreed, absolutely, And I love that they kept all of the fonts the same and the new stuff like I love, I love shit like that.

It's good.

Yeah, do what works, Hollywood, and.

Speaker 2

Keep tipping the towers queens, all right, as anybody everything that they want to plug before we get out of here.

Speaker 1

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So check out Strandedpanda dot com.

Yeah, all kinds of stuff going on.

Speaker 3

Yeah, all our shows are on stranded panda dot com.

What'd you got, Jay?

Speaker 4

Yeah, just uh stranupanda dot com.

I'll echo it again.

And I mean we're all over there on various things.

So if you like our takes on top Gun, you probably like our takes on everything else.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

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