What's up guys, welcome into the DBP.

That was gross wasn't it?

The downbeat podcast.

It is a personal bucket list guest.

It's Danny Filth of Cradle Of Filth, an icon.

I'll I'll be honest with you, most of the episodes me gushing.

I've probably wanted to speak to this guy for I think he knew as well.

I think maybe it's a bit cringe, who knows.

I've wanted to speak to Danny Filth since I was about 13, so it was a really good chat.

I wanted to ask him, you know, all the normal stuff, but also like, is your house weird?

What's with all the collabs?

They've got an upcoming collab with Ed Sheeran.

We have a amazing story about that.

Great guest, great guy.

I really appreciate him taking the time.

Iconic band.

Danny Filth legend.

Greetings.

Welcome to the Downbeat.

Thank you.

Thanks for having.

Me.

Thank you for coming.

A literal legend in that chair.

You captured me.

I did.

I literally came and captured you.

I heard a bit of soundcheck sounding unreal.

Yes, all right.

We're kind of getting to the flow of being back out on tour now.

Got bit of a new crew which is always a new monitor engineer and lighting.

Monitor new monitor engineer.

Yeah, I know.

I was scared.

Can I say shitless?

Yeah, you.

Oh, OK.

The only one you can't say is the word that you put on the back of a T-shirt.

Oh, OK.

All right.

We can.

We can believe.

That would be one thing to say.

Yeah, Yeah.

So no, it's going well.

Long story short, no fights with the monitor engineer.

No, not yet.

It's a couple of shouts.

It's got to be the worst job.

It really has.

Yeah, no one likes you.

Ever.

He's actually a very likeable chap.

I don't know how long that will last.

Good to him, Glasgow.

You've got a you've got a checkered history with Glasgow.

I don't know if you remember.

Have we?

Yeah, The the Lord.

Oh I thought you meant like fights or.

Something.

No, no, for that I think the Lord Provost, I think they call him He.

Whoever he is.

He denounced you.

His name's Alex.

Alex Mawson.

I don't know if you remember him by by name.

Not by name.

No, I'm a big kind of fellow fan, by the way, just just so you know.

That was a long time ago, wasn't it?

It was.

It was.

A 99 something like that, I think 2001.

He he was 99 to 2003.

So it was in between there.

Yeah.

I'm guessing it was around that time he called you, I think, sick and obscene.

Oh, wow.

And you used it on maybe a live DVD probably as like back?

At the top.

The quote at the top, I remember seeing it in Kerrang.

What I was going to ask you have you ever, because obviously you've had a, you know, a fair few people not happy with your music, including him, have you had any like, memorable encounters with protesters?

No, strangely enough, you'd think Deep South America, but your head didn't do would be all placards, you know?

And banners.

And you know the devil has taken over the music.

Whatever.

One guy I think outside a complex who you know and I didn't even came for us.

And the same with Russia.

When we were touring in Russia, we were literally running parallel with cannibal corps and we did a massive tour back and it was like 19 shows ended up above North Korea and they were touring at the same time and two of the shows had to be cancelled or redirect.

One of them got cancelled, but it turned out the truck carrying the PA turned over on the way there, and the second one just got redirected to a small club.

We couldn't play.

So we just ended up doing like acoustics.

Acoustics, he says, not doing anything toward it and the signing or whatever, because the guy was fearful that the police would shut him down, didn't even turn up or anything.

Meanwhile, cannibal courts were like every single show they were having Gypful.

But no, no, I don't know why we did get arrested at the Vatican, but that was our fault for turning out there wearing.

What did you do?

Well, actually it was Korang's fault.

They came out on the Cruelty tour and it was like the first one of the big first shows there where Napalm Death supporting and they said, oh, we've got photography, we want to do a bit of a story.

So we'll take you into and we'll film you against, you know, some sites.

Yeah, Yeah, we're thinking, you know, outside the Colosseum, that kind of thing.

Not some, some.

Is it some Peters Square?

I don't know one of the most holy places on earth.

Yeah, driven thing from my memory.

But anyway, that being said, I do remember it.

So yeah, there was completely empty.

And then we're taking these photos and what have you and armed police just came out from nowhere, surrounded us with guns and like, you know, machine guns and talking very excitedly as one guy who could speak English.

He was trying to explain why everybody was so fucking angry.

It wasn't the Jesus of the shirt.

It wasn't the I had this cheeky Camden I Love Satan T-shirt.

Yeah, I know.

I know exactly the one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 98.

Yeah, late 90s.

But they're more offended at all.

Keyboardist was dressed up as a vicar, like a priest.

He that was his thing.

Apparently that carries death sentence or something.

Not death sentence, but.

Close to.

Close to imprisonment in the Vatican, which is, you know, I mean a state unto itself.

But luckily this guy had some semblance of what we were talking about.

And apparently his cousin was a fan of metal in general.

Knew that we were playing with Napalm Death outside the city for well, we don't detain them here.

There's going to be a bit of a mini riot over there.

3000 odd people let us go.

But it wasn't without a lot of, you know.

That's amazing.

I wonder if when they let they let you go wouldn't have been Google back then.

I was going to say they Googled you ask Jeeves.

What was it not?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like I wonder if they found out later on.

Like we could have done him.

We could.

We had him right there.

The T-shirt guy.

Ask Christ.

Askchrist.com Malignant Perfection.

It's awesome.

I'm a big fan.

Cool.

I'm a big fan.

I.

Just saw the Justin Hawkins thing the other day.

He did a big podcast just on that song.

Got a bit muser in it, like playing along with it and everything, but it was generally really funky funny.

What was your thoughts on him?

He's really nice, Blair, actually, he said, oh, I remember Danny.

And I was thinking that's he's just making this weird story up.

And then it turns out it was a nightclub he used to frequent and his little tale would ring to and be being, you know, relatively drunk at the time.

But he doesn't mention anything else.

Like, you know.

I like.

Partying with him, you know, in the toilets.

Go on, you want.

To mention it, you can mention it.

The Forum Metal Hammer Awards years ago.

You know what I mean?

When it, when it, when it was a thing.

Partying in the toilets?

What?

What on earth were you doing in there?

Just having that, a roller disco, a 70s roller disco, that's what I meant.

So it did.

I'm not clear.

That's absolutely fine.

The, the song, what I wanted to ask you, I don't want to go too much into it about like, you know, boring, boring press stuff.

However, they're your inspiration for lyrics you've previously, you know, taken on literary and, like, horror movie stuff.

Yeah.

What's the story with this one?

The new.

Album.

And is it horny now?

Particularly the new song?

Does it come out of horniness?

Does it?

Yeah, it does.

A little bit, yeah.

I think everything comes a bit out of sex and it's like a marriage of sex and death.

Yeah, it's perfect.

Yeah, I guess a new album, new album isn't themed as such because every now expects us like they do with King Diamond, that every record we do is going to have this overarching theme or be a fool, you know, soundtrack or something.

Admittedly, we have done four or five conceptual records, but this one isn't is is is more just recently as a band, we we decided like we're going to write songs.

And there's, I mean, there's a couple on the album that are a little bit, you know, more long winded and more like what we used to do, but Dissection esque or whatever.

But yeah, of late we've just been really trying to write songs that people can remember and that we enjoy really playing.

And really, I mean, not that we haven't done that before, but it's, it's just been a thing where we've concentrated more on the music.

With a with a concept album, it's really can difficult to because you're like each one's a chapter and at some point or another there's going to be the the joining bit, you know, to make it all make sense because otherwise you're like going, what the fuck is this about?

That's why so many people think, you know, Oh my God, this band is great.

It's on the concert record and the band's going.

Have we the fucking idea?

Oh yes, of course.

Yeah, that's what it means.

When you do a concept record, are you starting with lyrics or are you starting with music?

That's our thing, because I always let them let the band play around with music until we get like two or three songs that you go right, this is a direction.

It's not just aimless, you know, and.

In Factory, how do you then like, like what you're saying?

Like obviously a part of it is the climax of the story.

How do you then like arrange the song so the right bit of music is there?

How?

Do you do a 500 piece puzzle of a jaw?

You know what?

I.

Mean does it take a long time?

Yeah.

Does it take like like before the last record as a four year gap?

Yeah, but that was COVID happened.

We actually recorded.

Write some songs.

Well, we did.

We were in the studio recording that album during COVID and it was very nice.

It was too, you know, it was only me and the, the, the the studio engineer could go there a couple of times, have roadblocks, but it was fine.

We live out in the countryside and every night I'd draw.

I just bought a new car, so I was dry.

I'd dry purposely.

Audi, by the way.

Completely the opposite side just like a drive back through the town because it was like Silent Hill, no no one around it was eerily cry like zombie apocalypse.

Did you take any flights during COVID?

On the on the tail end, yeah.

It was glorious.

There was no one there.

The only people that were there had like a visa that meant they could go so everyone knew.

Give some space at the baggage thing when your group numbers called.

I loved it.

And then immediately the media author, it's.

Just back-to-back to normal.

I know.

Yeah, we got to America and then that was odd because every show had to have a COVID test.

Yeah, I was there as well.

And then there were two both support bands, they contracted COVID and they both had to leave the tool.

1st all back.

And we really, we're playing New York and yeah, we everybody had to wait around to literally about half 1011 for us to go on.

Kind of like a bit miffed it just happened just there and then.

Did you get it on the tour?

No, no, our guitarist did.

When we got to Canada, we had to leave him behind.

So we had one guitar and then occasionally our guitar tip would decide he'd get up and do another song.

Occasionally just just pop up.

Well, just occasionally we told him to.

Yeah, I got, I got COVID on the 1st tour back and I was so unwell.

I was like I don't think I want to do this anymore.

I was fucked really.

I'm back.

Touch.

Oh my God, is that real wood?

I don't know know what, Danny, I've got no fucking idea.

Touch wood that because I only got it once and it was like really fucking mild.

Super Marvel touched.

Some actual wood.

They had fucking Larsa Works drumsticks.

They're not even fucking Woody Plays metal once.

Do it.

Yeah.

Made of metal.

So you mentioned you live near.

Was it Sky Akins?

Scott Atkins.

Yeah, Well, near his studio anyway.

So did Scott do the new stuff as well?

Yeah, Scott's pretty much done everything we've done since 2012, even my other other band.

Great.

Great mixer.

Yeah, he's, he's good.

He he just used to hear me get the best out of us.

And he's like this, you know, go right.

We're doing another album.

He's going to set.

We'll do exactly the same thing.

It's always like, no, we'll, we'll do this, we'll try this, we'll mix it up a bit.

And again, new songs.

That's that's the thing about a new album that has some different songs on it.

Different songs, different.

Do you have to like go and read loads of books, like because you've always got like this song's about this, this song's about this.

Do you have to like just go, I've got to write some fucking lyrics.

I've got to go and read a book club, always read a book.

I've always wanted to read.

No, just download Audible.

No, no, no, no, just just read.

Generally not.

I'm not a bookworm as such.

And actually, to be honest, now I've learnt to cook a bit, I have been listening to Audible.

You're.

Cooking.

What are you cooking?

HelloFresh.

I loved it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My, my my girlfriend introduced me to it, whom I met during the pandemic.

And since then I was like, wait, because what I hate about cooking is like spending a day looking for the bloody ingredients.

It's an ad.

Now you're doing an ad.

You're not even fucking bad, Fresh.

That's fucking amazing.

We still need to talk about that fucking song.

I malignant perfection, Yes, I want to know what the lyrics, what inspired the lyrics?

You really wanted to write a song that it was so catchy and I thought, I want to combine the something with something that people would put on at a certain time.

And that's like, we're not writing a Christmas song.

Are we fucking stupid?

I mean, yeah, Halloween was because we wrote it last year was coming up and it just got that vibe from the song.

I just wanted to sort of embody the spirit of it, give it a bit, like you say, a little bit of sexiness about it as well.

And because it was so catchy, something that when people are like, because I have a playlist for for Halloween and generally most of the songs got Halloween in the title.

Yeah, ironically enough.

So King.

Diamond, as mentioned earlier, what is on your Halloween playlist?

Halloween by the Misfits Halloween 2 by Sam Hain type sound.

Typo negative.

Take these Halloween.

Yeah, typo, negative.

Definitely some the soundtrack.

Three about 3 typo Halloween songs with one with Halloween in the title.

What is it?

Halloween coming in heaven?

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

And then there's Black Hallows.

Well, black number ones, Yeah, much Halloween in.

It Oh, I've got a question for this, but we can go straight into it 'cause we're on topic prior to Nymphetamine.

Yeah, you did a tour with Type O Negative.

Yeah, they supported us.

Believe that.

Fucking hell.

Type O Negative is my favorite band of all time, so number one, I just want to know if you've got any cool stories from that.

Yeah, yeah, loads.

You've got anything that pops out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, the the thing was we we headlined the B stage that year of the American Oz Fest.

So we had that and that was all of a sudden that was like 10 glorious alcohol soaked weeks in the under the American sun, you know?

Yeah, it was amazing.

And then we had that to finish the year.

So it was like Moon spell typo and us what?

A fucking line up.

It was it was amazing.

And yeah, there's.

So many hot goth girls there.

I'm sorry.

There was, thankfully.

Yeah, sorry.

There.

There were two stories that stick.

Well, three stories.

My boy was Kenny was.

Oh, fuck it.

Yeah.

He didn't bring me back.

Anyway, Kenny, Kenny Hickey wasn't supposed to be drinking.

He was like, Oh no, you can't drink.

You know what you like when you drink.

They're all you know.

I think there was one day where we were led to believe that Pete's mum was ill and they'd flown and I was like in their port.

Grand Rapids is there?

He flown back to New York overnight and that's why they weren't doing the gig.

You were natural fat.

He was crashed down the back of their bus and he had a Bender and just didn't want to do it.

Yeah, that was the day that I didn't realize we're doing the gig.

And I was I said I'm going to, I know we're not doing the gig.

So I'll be with the bar around the corner and like literally the tour manager and the crew without even listening to me.

So it's halfway to being half cut when the support bank at Moon Spell came in all with their make up still on.

And I was like, what the fuck are you doing?

And they said you are playing about 20 minutes.

It was awful, fucking awful gig.

But no Kenny Hickey, I think we're in Ohio and he wasn't supposed to be drinking.

And one of the band said to me, Kenny's going do us a favour while you're while you're there.

I know you get on.

Can you just take him away from the merch stand because he's really embarrassing everybody.

And also there's a bottle of whiskey.

Try and get it off him and hide the fucking thing.

So I do both things, engaging with conversation, whatever it was.

I have to paint a picture here.

This was, it was snowing, so there was ice in the car park outside this gig.

So why, why the nightclubs going on afterwards, just the same venue?

I'm there talking to him, introducing something, grab the bottle from him.

Or, you know, take it, have a swig, and then surreptitiously go and hide it up on the bus.

I didn't realize you'd seen me do it.

And I came back down and next thing I know I'm just lying in this puddle going, oh fucking hell, He just chimed me.

So I got up and we had this massive fight, or it looked like a massive fight to everybody else.

Everybody was like fucking horrified, and there wasn't much of it.

They split us up and whatever and don't think anything of it.

Fucking fights with people all the time.

So next day we're in Detroit and Pete comes to me in the Goose Derby.

I'm so sorry about the shit that Kelly did last night.

The old man is so shit.

Fuck me, I don't have a personal word with that motherfucker.

And anyway, I wanted to carry on doing the Voice.

I loved it but.

He, he, we then decided we're having a bit of a laugh about things that he said.

I've got a dressing room upstairs full of hot chicks and industry types and whatever.

Let's go in there and really shake things up.

So basically just this room fucking froze.

We kicked the door in me and him pretending we were having a fight.

It's like he's 8 foot tall like 5 foot 5 like looking like we're reading.

We were like kick the furniture and everything.

The whole room just fucking froze and even when we stopped doing it and just went, people were still like what the fuck?

Horrified.

Yeah, that was pretty funny and didn't really engage too much with Pete.

It was a bit of a lone a lot of the time.

But you got him because a bottle of wine to him was like, you know, a little mini bottle.

Yeah, giant man.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

So he'd be there with a bottle of wine in hand, slugging away and that, and he'd probably call you over and have a little chat with you.

I mean, it's quite an interaction you had storming through that room.

Yeah, it was funny.

I got into typo literally the day he died because I was like a kid and then he died and it was all over Koran and I was like, oh, I should probably check this out.

And now I checked out.

I was like, Oh my God, it's so fucking good.

I never get to see him.

Well, I was a fan of Carnivore during my flash metal days and then when the typo thing came out, I didn't really did a couple of records and didn't really strike me at all.

And then I'll back in 93 when we were recording the principle of Even Way Flesh.

We went up to Academy Studios in Dewsbury and I'll guy that was like a record company.

Guy came with us and he had this four track of bloody kisses, which I think was we don't the one that sounds like Tracy's sister, because there's like loads of different that one summer Brees black number one and Christian woman.

But edits and yeah, it was so fresh and so new that literally that there was a couple of records that just became the soundtrack to us recording.

That's amazing on a full track.

Do you think that's spilled into your lyrics, Torium?

And them, well, I may have influenced Nymphetamine the album.

A little bit.

That's what I was thinking, because it's sex.

But they they, yeah, they were on Life is Killing Me at that point.

That was that tour.

And they had a really cool, they were support them, but they had a really fucking cool simplistic stage show which was amazing.

But they were all in prison uniforms and they had wrapped.

They'd like a little tower with a Searchlight on it, I think 2 set, 2 towers, 2 searchlights and, you know, fake barbed wire round things.

It looked really cool.

Yeah, it looked really cool.

I'm got it, I never got to see them.

Speaking of nymphetamine, while we're on that I've got 2 questions.

This is just me, if you don't like my questions, fuck you because this is me asking someone that I respect what I want to know.

Nymphetamine Fix, It was Grammy nominated.

Yeah, I've got 2 questions, which is the press agents are going to hate you because they're supposed to be talking about new stuff, but I just want to know because I can't find it anywhere.

What was the reason between having If you don't know if you're listening, there's an amphetamine overdose, which is the long song.

Yeah, fucking ribs.

And then there's an amphetamine fix, which is just a shorter version.

It's a bridged version.

It's just the bit in the middle taken out because they want it for radio.

We didn't want it, we didn't want to edit it.

So we took it out and it because the the the main songs like a trip tickets got like a 2 wings either side so.

Heavy, sexy, heavy, heavy, sexy heavy and he took sexy out.

Got nominated for a Grammy.

Did you go to the Grammys?

No, I was in India, my mum used to rent a house, a villa in, in Goa for like 6 months, me just going through a hippie phase and we went out for Christmas.

And I remember even seen as like a, a paper out there and obviously a newspaper and there's a journalist who it was on the front page and he'd gone to the Grammys and he voted for nymphetamine.

And that was the thing.

He had a picture of us on that and we were like, Oh my God, fuck, it's happening today.

While you were in India?

While we were in India, Yeah, this is like.

In a paper in India, yeah, While you were there, yeah.

That's got to be like, Oh my mum, look at.

This.

No, no, no, no, she, she found it.

And yeah, it was just, we kind of got beaten by it was how some killswitch were up for like, and a Motörhead and Motörhead were doing a cover of Metallica's Whiplash.

It wasn't even a proper song.

You know the industry types and.

Oh, we know Motörhead.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what happened every single fucking year.

It's kind of what this guy intimated in his his very Indian way.

They say things like turn turtle and soup turned upside down.

If a car car gets hit on the road, they they say it's turned turtle.

Turned turtle.

And they say super sleuth instead of detective.

Everyone's observation, it just sticks out.

Super sleuth, super sleuth.

It's great, isn't it?

It's like.

That's.

Fucking fun.

You expect a gadget?

You mentioned your girlfriend twice now I've mentioned sexy lyrics she amuse.

Yeah, yeah, I would say, well, I wrote she is a fire about her actually.

That's what I was going to ask are any, because there's a lot, there's a lot of like I'm sexy.

He's doing it a disservice.

There's a lot of.

I mean, it's sexy, but there's a lot of.

Erotica.

Erotica and adoration in there, Yeah.

And I was wondering.

Yeah, I would say she's a very sexy lady.

It's have a muse.

Yeah, it is actually.

I've got a bit of a.

Vision at my age, I've.

Got a bit of a muse but I can't really write lyrics so I don't really know what to do.

It makes me work harder so I can buy her things.

You should start a podcast.

Yeah, that's what I've done, Danny.

I think that's exactly what I've done.

While we're on the subject of recordings anyway, just go and check out.

If you don't know Craig, just go and check it out.

Legendary, iconic.

Just fucking sick.

More stop stops.

I'm going to suck him off at the end of this.

What I want to know.

I know he can write a song about it.

That could be the next.

Everything's inspiration.

It's the most it's the most, you know, anti Christian thing you could do really, really actually anyway you could top.

That, enough of that.

You haven't pissed on a church.

It's not one of my questions.

To live next to a church, actually like literally next door to a very famous church in Suffolk.

And anything I didn't like about it was Sunday mornings, because obviously fucking clatter of bells waking you from your slumber, your eternal rest.

You didn't.

You didn't like it, do you?

Sleep.

No.

I love I.

Actually, imagine you sleep like this.

Yeah, I sleep more with my hands very like literally if I sleep around my girlfriends house I should hack my own arm off because she I end up and she's sleeping on it.

That's cute though.

Not really, it's painful.

That's cute.

I'm still gonna get on to these questions that I have on music.

But while we're on the House thing, irrespective of our conversation in the car, I want to know, is your house like mad Spooky?

Yes.

Like I've seen a following on Instagram.

I've seen in the background.

You've never really done like a house tour.

I don't want to, you know, I'm away from home too much.

And then people are really sort of like judgmental.

What did you do that as fuck off?

I love all that shit.

It's a bit of a museum, I must admit.

Very tidy museum, but a museum, yeah.

It's been really weird in there.

Dialect.

A dialect.

Yeah, black dialect, dialect SEC.

Yeah, the speaks and everything.

All sides?

Yeah, that's fucking awesome.

Where is it?

What room?

Garden Room.

Garden Room.

What's a garden room?

A room next to a garden.

Conservatory.

No, it's just like it's.

A room.

It's next.

To a garden it did.

I haven't got much of A garden.

Right.

To be honest, it's a townhouse that used to be other houses and they they raffled off my fucking land.

What else is in the Daleks room?

In my head You've got suits of armour you got.

Like, no, I've got a couple of so-called, you know, full size sarcophagus.

Oh.

Rico cover guys, Really where do you get them from?

Where you buying a sarcophagus?

I put ace, Kevin Camden.

It's it's obviously not a real 1.

That little shop in the lock.

Might have been.

I want to buy there's like AI know exactly the shop that has all that weird stuff in it yeah there's it's still there there's like a full size samurai armour yeah and I want to buy it so much I.

Reckon that was a place, yeah.

It's definitely the same place with the same you and I.

Yeah, just lots of statues and tribal masks, which I pick up all around the world.

Awesome, you never think about letting anyone in for a little.

No, my house is on the market and nobody knew.

I mean, that's why I didn't sell it.

I got a serial killer painting that's John Wayne Gacy.

Really rare one.

By him.

By him, yeah.

Physically drawn by him.

Yeah, yeah, Painted.

Whatever he's done with it, it's, it's terrible.

I mean, it's it's not, of course.

It is he was busy doing other stuff.

Well, This is why I was in prison.

It's got a prison release form in it.

It's got a bit of his blood mixed in with it, but it's of the universal monsters, though you wouldn't really know that.

It's like a child's done it and then the Jason mask in the middle.

Apparently it's really rare because he normally just smaller pictures.

He did the Jason mask.

No, he he just drew it in the middle.

It's like universal monsters.

Right.

The Mummy.

Dracula.

Oh yeah.

Frankenstein He.

Likes a bit of horror.

Did he?

Who knew?

Well, that's it.

I mean, the books, Yeah, that's pretty.

I mean, you know, RIP to everyone involved, but that's kind of cool.

It's got enough times passed for me to say that's cool, isn't it?

I'm cancelled now.

Again.

Great.

You briefly mentioned the principle, the evil made flesh.

Yeah, you have, and I am very thankful for this.

But I'd like to know your thought process behind it.

You've previously remixed songs from that and you did Cruelty Remistressed, which was also remixed.

Yeah, that needed remixing.

Because in my opinion, like when I see a remaster I'm always like that's a fucking money grab.

Like rarely rarely is anything really need remastered.

Like how many times the Black Album been remastered?

Remastered one of a record I really like, Bathory and the Sun, Black Mark and everybody listens to it.

Doesn't matter where you go to listen to this one, you go fuck.

It's unlistenable.

It's unlistenable.

The drums got so much reverb on them.

It just, it renders a record rubbish.

Everybody listens to that record.

There's original pressing of it sound fucking incredible.

And vinyl.

I think you could probably track it down on a not to buy but to listen to on YouTube.

But I don't know who the fuck did that.

But it's become a staple because that's all anybody knows and that's when it's shit.

Somebody does a bad job.

But we we just took it.

We were able to get the masters and we just reverentially, reverentially I, I don't, I think it's.

You're the word Smith.

I'm going, yeah.

It's a yeah.

Yeah, It's a new word.

I just came out with Yeah, we we painstakingly brought it back to life.

So.

Nothing was retracted, it was just.

No, no, no.

It was just just all remixed.

Because I love.

It from scratch.

I agree it needed remixing and I love it when people do a remix that needed to be done.

Yeah, and not just a money grab, but like, oh.

Yeah, God, it was a money grab as well.

Really.

No, I was going to say because you would have just remastered it.

Yeah, well, it was painstaking.

That's that's what after time you spent more time on.

You got any plans to do any of the others?

Not as yet.

I'd like to do Midian.

Yes, thank God you said that I'd.

Like to do Midian but I'm not sure if the masters are still a thing because there was a fire at the a publishing company which stored and I can't remember if they disappeared or not.

I'd have to look into that.

Retrack it.

Go through the whole thing again with Jesus Christ.

Median again.

2000 Geez, that was a different person then.

I tell you what I don't know.

He's speaking a median, The voice at the beginning.

It's not Christopher Lee, is it?

Of of her ghost in the fog.

No, no, that's Doug Bradley Pinhead.

Pinhead.

Yeah.

How?

Amazing.

He's been on four of our records, I think really maybe 5.

Anytime it's spooky, anytime it's spooky voice, it's literally Pinhead.

Most of it, yeah.

Not not all of it.

Some of it.

How do you most of it?

How do you get pinhead pinheads numbered You get out of John Wayne Gacy.

Well, he's a he's a good friend now.

Actually he's been to my house because we needed to track an extra part from him.

So I said we haven't got to just bring it to my house and I converted my.

Garden Room.

My office into a makeshift recording studio.

For Pinhead.

Yeah, which is kind of weird because I had pictures of Pinhead on the wall, which he'd signed before.

That's amazing.

No, it was good fun.

He's he's a really jovial, nice guy.

Lives in America now, in Pittsburgh of all places.

Did you ever see, I mean, don't talk to me about moving to America to be weird somewhere.

But he's not Pittsburgh.

Yeah, yeah, it kind of sucks, no offence.

Pittsburgh.

Good bridge though.

That bridge is in Batman.

Perfect.

Still watch a bunch of horror films.

Absolutely.

You know what, I, I, I, I got out of it for a while, but recently I think mainly because like I said, we we talk pre talk amble about girlfriend breaking the leg and maybe sort of spending a lot of time looking after whatever.

Watched a lot of horror movies recently and I can name some really good ones.

I think this year has been.

That's what one I want some recommendations.

Terrify 3.

I haven't seen one or two.

Should I be doing this?

No it.

Doesn't matter.

There's a bit of a back story, but it doesn't really count.

I'd be like Abigail.

Oh God.

Now, now when I say there's hundreds of movies late night, but The Devil was really good.

Yeah.

I, I didn't really want to watch it because the premise didn't sound great.

So I left it to the last minute and I thought, I've got a few.

I packed really early for Australia when we went on tour or something.

I was like, I've got some hours free.

I can't believe it the night before.

So I watched that and then ironically, when I got on the plane, it suggests some things for you if you've flown Qantas for a while, you know, or whatever.

And that was the first film.

Qantas knows that you're spooky as fuck.

Qantas were just like yeah this fucker will love this.

And they had it on there that.

Was really I loved it.

I loved it.

I loved how 80s it looked and felt and everything in the ending was cool.

Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.

I loved it.

Fucked.

There's loads of them, but of course I wasn't overly keen on that Nick Cage film that everybody was, what was it called Daddy Not Daddy Long Legs.

Long legs.

No, I haven't seen it yet about.

I've seen divided people saying it's the best film ever.

No, it really wasn't.

I'm fucking love my horror to bits.

And it wasn't it it it kind of gets that way and you think about this is really cultist and it's shot really well and very original and weird.

And then suddenly it just it just sort of like third quarter.

It just descends into the predictability factor.

The book of Revelations.

This, this you just go oh snore.

And you're like I did.

That and then it just ends in a way where it just, you just don't feel like satiated by it.

Do you know what I mean?

What do you think of hereditary?

That was great that there's a a a few films that have come along of that ilk of every since Midsummer and then Mandy.

Mandy was great.

Mandy score is amazing as well.

Yeah, yeah, I've actually got that.

I'm a massive soundtrack fan.

That's my.

Thing same.

That's my thing.

Soundtracks.

Yeah.

With the turn of Coppola's Dracula, I also like soundtracks.

I never bought them before then, like Star Wars and stuff that and then after that was a turning point after once for Coppolas, you know, the gram Stoker.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That fucking got hundreds now.

Like the Dracula soundtrack?

Unreal.

Like the opening scene, all that stuff.

When?

He's never a good film, which has got a similar theme.

Weird thing was it was supposed to come out two years ago at the cinema and they buried it and then it was, it had come out in America and I just assumed it flopped.

Which obviously did put The Last Voyage of the Demeter, which is the boat that takes Dracula to to me.

And it's got a cast of superb.

It's so well done.

It's proper gothic horror, violent, looks amazing, you know what I mean?

It took me two years to watch it.

You can buy it anywhere.

I thought they're just like, it was like a legal loophole where they had to get rid of it and I saw that recently.

And how did you see it?

And if you can't watch anywhere?

I can't tell you.

Danny Phelps got a cracked Fire Stick.

It was a Blu-ray that somebody gave me.

Oh, so I can't just go and watch that?

Well, because it was American Blu-ray.

But you don't have to fucking buy it.

Yeah, well, anyway, you might be able to get on Amazon now that.

Sounds good though it sounds right on my.

Street really amazing.

I was very surprised.

In a violent nature is another good one.

Bit slow.

I liked it, yeah, but I agree.

But good.

And there's another one called Beaten to Death which is fucking sick.

I mean, that sounds fucking awesome.

Yeah, it's pretty sick.

The guy gets his eyes put out about 20 minutes into the film and navigates the whole film with all these horrible wounds.

Sounds perfect for me.

Have you got a shadow membership then I imagine.

OK have you?

How do you feel about foreign language horror?

Yeah, I don't mind it.

Have you watched the Sadness?

On I have not, no.

It's maybe one of the most violent.

It's a series.

Isn't it?

No, it's just a, it's a Taiwanese movie and it's like quote UN quote zombie.

Like I'm not actually a zombie guy.

I don't really like a zombie movie but like.

It's too much of it isn't.

Yeah, but it's like, I like it when I do it right, like trained Busan and stuff like that.

But this is Taiwanese zombie.

But it's basically COVID, but it's like a virus that makes you insanely violent.

And they call it kind of like 28 days later ish.

Yeah.

And they call it the sadness.

And it is absolutely horrifically violent.

I must.

Check it, Yeah, but that's on the on the list.

It's really great, I'd love to know your thoughts on it.

There were some other really good ones I saw where it's a strange darling.

It's weird.

It's a very strange film about this prostitute Darling.

It's about a prostitute and this guy who's a policeman.

And it, it starts off with you thinking that this guy, because he's a serial killer abroad, it's the guy.

Everything points to him and it turns out it's the woman and she's so fucking weird.

Really.

Yeah, and she gets away from him, but she's really hurt him, so he's come to kill her and then the other police is is fucked up.

Violent, violent.

Fucked up.

Yeah, that's my shit.

Are you looking forward to Nosferati?

I'm not looking forward to going to see it on Christmas Day when it's released.

I'm going on day one as well.

I know my friend is.

I was like, fucking hell, your mum's gonna love you.

I'm doing, I think I'll be in Nashville.

I've got I've got a suitable, I've got a suitable goth to come and watch it with.

Me, it's a very strange time to release it when they release Terrify Free.

I get it before Halloween, but Terrify Free is a Christmas movie.

It's just Christmas, yes?

That's weird, they should have swapped.

Really.

Yeah.

Just point to each other Christmas.

That's kind of cool though, that Robert Eggers thing of where he's just like, I don't care, I'm going.

To it looks good.

It looks really good, but it looks it looks like it's got a lot of elements of the movies in it because again, it's just a Dracula story but set somewhere else.

So it looks like it's got the Klaus Kinski original, maybe even a bit of shadow of the vampire, which was the the thing about the making of which also had what's his face?

Green Goblin going William Defoe William.

Defoe Yeah.

But it also looks a lot like Coppola's track here, a little bit like Frankenstein.

Yeah.

And.

Checking all the boxes for me.

Sleepy Hollow.

Love Sleepy Hollow.

It's got that kind of vibe to it.

But yeah, looking forward to it.

I'm.

Looking forward, I'm gonna go watch it.

I think it's super Christmas Day.

Substance.

Did you see that?

Everyone's been telling me to see it and I haven't seen it yet.

Yeah, that's fucked up.

Is it as good as everyone says?

It's amazing.

Yeah.

It's real body hot.

I thought it was David Cronenberg.

You.

Know, I saw, I saw a spoiler, I saw when she's all fucking messed up and I was like, oh, that's so annoying.

My fault for not going when it came out.

Yeah, I'm stoked on that.

You've done some mad collaborations in your time.

You've got some mad collaborations coming up.

I want to know what's going on with the Ed Sheeran one.

The Ed Sheeran one is done and dusted.

We did it like two years ago.

It was.

It was weird because we would plan to do it for about a year and a half.

That come about.

I don't know.

I think our managers got in touch with each other somehow.

His manager Stuart is used to listen to Cole Chamber when he was growing up.

Ed used to listen.

He said that when he did, he did like a vampire thing.

I come in with a bad something.

What a vampire band.

No no, he did a single where he played a vampire.

I don't know anything about him.

And I think one that he got asked questions somewhere where it was like, you know, you in heavy metal, I don't know why.

And he said, yeah, I was really in the Slipknot and Cradle Of Filth.

And then this story came out how he was going to come and do his apprenticeship, you know, like from school thing, you know, at our studio.

But then we decided not to do it.

And the truth of it was that we weren't recording an album there at all.

We just rehearsed.

But the guy kept telling everyone that we were to get his studio some money.

Apparently, whether he decided not to do it or it just the vacancy wasn't open, he went to work in at the local council, Ipswich Borough Council.

Oh, he's local to you.

Yeah, yeah.

So he went to work for Ipswich Borough Council and had such shit time now evidently, that he decided, no, I'm going to pursue my music.

Whereas I think if he come to work with us, it would have been the other way round.

I'm going to kill my.

You're responsible for his success.

So apparently they, they, they talked and, you know, the, the, the chat came around, you know, we, we should do a club at Belarus.

And he was like right up for it.

So when he was eventually free and we were free, he just comes to the studio by himself.

He didn't even ask like, are you going to be there with your mum's and everything going Oh, head.

So we were very respectful.

And that was just me, the producer and him in our little countryside studio probably 15 miles away as a crow flies from where he lives turns up in his wife's secret mini.

You know, the one he can get out of the house on his own cradle, hoodie, guitar on his back.

That was it.

And he had a cradle hoodie on.

Yeah, what a legend.

We spent the afternoon recording.

He's telling us loads of funny stories, you know, like really lads, really cool really.

And then we finished.

He, you know, he said we were like, do you want to go for a pint?

He said, why, I'm a bit peckish.

So we went to the local pub, at which point everybody in the pub, and it's like a very, very rustic old country pub.

Suddenly everybody, all these old dears and that all knew his mum.

And they were all flocking over.

Oh, must say hello to him.

And he'd be like, no idea who that is, That's so funny.

But it was really cool.

The song's great, it just is.

We didn't want to release it back then because we were busy with other things.

Then he couldn't release it because he was doing a bunch of stuff, so it's just going to come out when it does.

We didn't want to put it on the album because we just didn't want.

To So it's a Is it a Cradle song featuring Ed Sheeran, or is it an Ed Sheeran song featuring that?

No.

It's a brand new Cradle Of Filth song featuring Ed Sheeran, and a lot of it sounds like Ed Sheeran.

He's playing acoustic tie, singing Ed Sheeran a lot.

That sounds like us.

It's a blast.

Beat Scream.

Oh my God.

Ed really pushes himself in it as well, you know?

He doesn't scream no.

No, he does rock vocals, you know, he goes for a bit of.

What's the lyrics about?

Can you give me any juice there?

It's called.

I think, no, I can't.

I can't talk about it because I get in trouble.

You can't talk about the lyrics, you can't do anything.

It's it's about affirmation.

Affirmation.

It's.

Always horny?

That's a bit about sort of self affirmation.

Nice.

It works.

It's really good song.

Only about a few handful of people.

My mum hasn't even heard it.

And then so.

Anyway, that will come out as and when nice.

And Can you imagine he's also, you know, like he's in he's probably chasing the the Taylor Swift sort of thing.

You know, they're very.

He's doing all right, isn't he?

He's.

Doing bad.

He's doing all right in my head.

The fever dream of just you and Ed Sheeran.

Ed Sheeran's In the Cradle hoodie at a country pub surrounded by old women.

He also shares the my love for fiberglass dinosaurs.

What do you mean fiberglass?

Dinosaurs.

I just I've always like if I've because I collect weird stuff.

It's like if I have a bit more land.

Oh, the big outdoors ones, Yeah, yeah.

Are you going to do it or you have done it?

No, no, no, I've got plans to.

I'm going to move into your house.

There's plans for this lake with a giant octopus coming out of there.

And then I found out that he's actually got a bunch.

He's got like a walk through in his garden where he's just bought loads of fiberglass dinosaurs.

What it's like sane, a thing to bond over and B, how did that even come up in conversation?

I just don't, you know, I really like Ed Sheeran.

Fiberglass dinosaurs.

Yeah.

I'm sure there was a place, though, because I'm from reading.

I'm sure there was a place in the South when I was a kid and they had like, it was like a park and it was just all of those I remember.

Going, oh, you know, thinking of Isle of White and Black Gang China.

Maybe snacks?

We did you.

Ever get what?

Yeah, it would have been that.

I suck a fever dream 'cause I must have been like 3 or something.

I just remember being like, it's amazing.

Didn't quite stick as much for me as it did for you and Ed, but.

That's awesome.

I just like weird stuff.

I'd like a gun full of weird shit.

And what my guns full of weird shit anyway.

What's the weirdest thing other than garlic and other than the John Wayne Gacy painting?

I don't know.

What would you save if there was a fire in in mansion?

I'm assuming I'm just calling.

Mansion.

Filth, Maison.

Filth is yeah.

Oh.

Fuck no, it's I, I don't know what I'd go for.

Probably an African mark.

I've got a a mannequin that's in my bedroom.

Bedroom mannequin.

Yeah, she's she's like a vampire goddess.

Yes, for Cleopatra.

God, I love you.

And she looks a lot like my girlfriend, but my girlfriend doesn't is like she's she can go in your office gives me the willies.

Oh really?

Do you have to take her out?

No, no, no, no.

Yeah, you do with girlfriends every now and then.

So keep them.

Keep them on your side.

I meant like the the vampire goddess, like you know, does she have to leave the room when you when she oversee things?

She doesn't leave the room.

She doesn't leave the room.

That's fucking awesome.

Is she dressed up like proper goth?

She hasn't got a yeah, yeah, kind of yeah yeah.

She hasn't got a huge amount of clothes on, no.

Fucking so sick.

Oh it's like looking into a mirror in my head.

The the vision of you and Ed in this pub is quite a lot like the actual video that you did with Bringing Horizon, where you're just in full.

You know what was cool about that?

Because everybody always says, why the fuck are you doing?

You know, you did something with what's that band Twisted?

And it was like a sort of beast.

When I say Beastie Boys track, it was like half rap, half male.

Yeah, people would say, why aren't you doing it with something as well?

Because I like the juxtaposition of like when somebody says, could you do this song and go, oh, hello, this will be weird and weird, strange marriage.

And the thing that made it more appealing about the boom with the horizon thing was that my daughter, massive Ollie Seitz man like Hugh.

So I took her up to to his place which was the drop dead.

You.

Know big big gaff and hung out with Ollie for a bit and then we went to shoot the video which wasn't it was kind of like can we come in and shoot here it wasn't like deserted it was a functioning local supermarket in in Sheffield and my daughter is actually in the video shopping for some cheese I think and yeah so she was all about that and then they asked me to do it on the stage at all points East where they headlined and yeah obviously she's she was in fact she's VIP whenever they play Ollie promised and she's kept to the word and.

That's so cute.

But, well, she's 25.

It's not that cute you're thinking of a.

Section.

Yeah, in my head.

In my head.

She's 13.

But it is.

It is cool.

He's he's one of those people.

He transcends like age of fandom.

Yeah, and I think the premise point that video is he just of which I agree on.

He's like, they want me to do a lyric video and I hate lyric videos.

And yeah, I like the lyrics, but I fucking hate lyric videos.

Just a cheap excuse.

Yeah, I want videos.

I want to be in a video.

I fucking can't stand lyric videos.

No, it's just fucking.

Never done one, never done.

One, there was a point when music industry used to make money and then 2008 onward bank crashes and whatever onset of the digital age, etcetera, etcetera.

Oh.

You got some good.

You got some good good before that happened though.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, Yeah.

But I just miss the, I miss the the record company sending you to, you know, New York now it's just all down on the phone, a supermarket.

I miss the been able to record in a because they just shut down.

Even if you've got the money to do it.

Yeah, a lot of our great works, as people call them, were were done in studios where you went to live, you know.

Yeah, like Park Gate, which was, it was like being on holiday.

We all had our own chalets, you know, stayed up all night partying, blew things up, you know, also recorded an album.

Yeah, kind of go in the way.

Eventually.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Residential studios, and they're just a thing of the past.

We get lucky.

We recorded New Jersey with Will Putney and here's his residential and I did.

I recently had Mono Jeopardy Mono Valley in Wales.

Yeah, in fact we fucking hell, the weirdest thing is Nymphetamine and Damnation and the day we rented those out to write the album.

So we'd spend 2 weeks twice there just near Watford, and it was when they were doing the place up.

So still the studio was still workable, but some of the rooms were at the back, like 9 bedrooms, 10 bedrooms.

They were still doing them up.

So they let us have it for a little bit cheap.

We had a great time now.

Yeah, same.

That's why I brought it up, because I was like, I remember our.

Party they did flood boy because they built like the.

Flood No, no, it was it was after that, but then I recently had that shut down now, but it's air being it's on Airbnb Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I know a few producers that are just like, I'm just gonna fucking bring a rig in Airbnb.

Modern, modern.

Well, that's the great thing.

We were able to use that little studio.

The weirdest thing about that, well, not really weird thing, but I was just randomly on a looking over, you know, like when you're on a plane and you're more interested in what anybody else is watching.

And I just looked between two headrests and I was like, what the fuck?

That's Mono Valley.

This woman was watching the documentary on Oasis and apparently they they they did a bunch of stuff there.

One last thing on the collaborations, and this is literally again purely for me and no one is going to care.

Did you hope?

So.

Are you aware of the Vetamont T-shirt?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we did.

That an official collab.

We did a collaboration with them and we're doing some weird collaborations, and that's thanks to Dez for Farah and Anastasia for for Farah.

Dez is obviously Cole Chamber.

Cole Chamber, Devil driver, Yeah.

Yeah, and his wife, they managed us.

They have done the last six years they're.

Really.

Amazing.

Yeah, Yeah.

He's like one of my best friends.

Great.

He's a very, very good working relationship, both of them just so good at coming up weird and wonderful things.

And so this vitamin thing came along possibly in response to the Balenciaga thing, because they used our logo, allegedly used our logo and.

Didn't give you any.

Of nothing, nothing and.

£100 T-shirt.

Came back and said no no, it's just a rudimentary logo that looks maybe looks a little like yours.

Which is scum because they that's a £900 T-shirt.

So Vettelman kind of went one step.

I think they even released a statement where they kind of, you know, hinted at.

Yeah, yeah.

This is this is shit, but they were I missed because we were on tour in Australia, but they did a big thing in Paris.

You know, they're doing another one.

I'm not sure where it is but in January and they have asked me to walk the runway.

Oh my God, you have to do that.

Yeah, I know.

That's like my favorite.

Like this is again.

No, I would hate it, but it would be.

I'm not gonna turn it down, but.

That's like my favorite clothing designer right now is what they're doing.

Yeah, it's outrageously expensive, but I love it.

I love the whole ethos.

I love all of that stuff.

You have to do that.

Do it for me.

No, no, again, I I want to do it, of course.

Yeah, absolutely.

Can.

I guess that's a wonderful.

I've just met experience.

I've just met you.

Can I have a guest list?

There we go, I've got 2 questions on that.

Does it have the back print?

I don't know.

Possibly not possibly.

I don't know.

That's probably another £1000 though putting that print on.

Yeah, that's good for everyone.

You want a percentage.

They made a really cool dress.

They're making a suit for me, actually, for the moment.

Yeah.

But they made a cool dress, and it was all out of old T-shirts.

And they kind of, I think the theme was kind of reclamation.

Yeah.

And they did it in this weird old sort of dessert.

It looked like a deserted mall or something because they had the models came down.

Is it out of cradle shirts?

The dresses, yeah, yeah, out of the region they made a one off piece, but they have done the collaboration with some other bits and pieces, which we did.

We drop Dead as well, which is Holly's label.

I've got one.

I've got 1 upstairs.

I'm that guy.

I'm sorry.

I'm a fucking sweater.

I'm sorry.

Can you teach me how to do the Danny Filth scream?

I have to teach myself after I know it's a trade secret.

Is it a trade secret?

Is it a trade secret?

Is it any or an outy?

It's an outy.

It's an outy.

Yeah, yeah.

I can't do anything you're.

So far from the mic.

It must be so loud.

You're so far from the mic when you do it.

I have some weird little things that that I do.

That's one of them which I've noticed when I watch back on videos.

I go what the fuck?

And I suddenly realise why.

It is about 10 attenuation with the ears.

Now I've got tinnitus in one ear, probably because I have my highs fed into my ears.

That way it keeps like the low end on stage without reverb, which means no feedback or or lessons of feedback.

So getting a lot of the higher stuff straight in the ear.

I was once, I thought it's 10th birthday actually remember that.

We had a couple of, we had a gig cancelled and we had two days off and this was around San Francisco.

So I flew home and did six flights in 52 hours and my hearing didn't come down.

It was just still like that horrible, you know, like Jesus and I was spent a whole day like that and I was like, this is unbearable.

So I went to a doctor and he ear doctor and he cut my eardrum and I've been an American doctor.

I think he's more interested in the cash than the the repercussions of bang about I'm wearing.

So basically I've got tinnitus, and so doing that is a kind of way to just get it the volume just about right, so it sits just without interfering.

And yeah, it can be a bit loud.

And yeah, I have weird things.

I drink Ribena, there's no real reason for.

That that's your warm up.

Do you know an actual warm up or are you just drinking Ribena?

Yeah, that's it.

Sponsorship please.

If you're if you're from America, which most of you are, Ribenia is a delightful drink which you mix with.

I don't know what they would call it.

Americans have squash.

In Scotland they just call it juice diluting juice.

In the South, it's squash, but I don't know if America how I've never seen.

It's a little bit of syrup.

Can't.

Yeah, but that Kool Aid's like a powder, isn't it?

Yeah.

It's like a little bit of syrup and then you put water in it anyway.

Ribena banging.

My friend who was from America spent about 3 days drinking non diluted Ribena, OH.

My God, I'll give you diabetes.

Yeah.

Exactly.

I had no idea but you.

Can't teach me how to do the scream, can you?

Can you do a scream for me now?

I haven't warmed up.

Right, that will fuck you up.

Imagine I fuck the show up, alright?

No, I haven't really warmed up, but kind of kind of it's all we have to.

I'm a drummer.

I'm a drummer.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Wish I yeah.

I'm not gonna try again.

Danny Fell thanks for coming on the podcast.

Thank you very much.

It's been a real pleasure.

It's been fucking great.

Let's get you back to the show.