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Kelli Ferrell: A Gaggle of Peaches
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Today, I have a good friend, a very beautiful woman, a magnificent entrepreneur, an immaculate cook, and a woman who I look up to as far as being a great business owner and a great marketing genius of herself.
And she is now a real housewife of Atlanta ladies and gentlemen and anything in between.
Put your hands together.
From my sister, my good friend, Ms.
Kelly Ferrell.
Speaker 2Oh thank you now, Kenny?
Speaker 1Did I say your last name right?
Yeah?
Speaker 2It don't even matter.
It's about to change.
Speaker 1Because you know that's where I was going.
Speaker 2I love you, you know my love for you runs deep.
Girl.
Speaker 1You know that's where I was going.
Girl, what they say, what's going?
Yeah, it's my lipstick.
My lipstick did it?
They ain't gonna see it.
She can pull, she can pop up collar that oh own own.
So I kids throw my sister my lipstick got on a shirt and stuff like that.
Or but we got a long history of us together.
Speaker 2Yes, yes we do.
Speaker 1She used to have this place in Kanye's was called Nana's Chicken and Waffle.
But she has she has several of those places, but one of them was in Kanye's.
And I remember me being hungry once and I googled and I was like, I saw all the rave reviews like the Nana's Chicken and Waffle.
But I also pulled up over there and I could never find a parking so it kept me from going there.
And then one day I was like, let me go, and I walked in there.
He was like and then it was I love you and we've been so tight, and I wanted you to get that Sony's Barbecue.
Yes, remember I said, Keller, you need to get that son this barbecue place just down the street down because it was going to demolish and turn because you never there was never an empty seat in Nana's Chicken.
There was never there's never ever an empty seat in Nana's Chicken.
And I want to reiterate this.
I don't know about nobody else is restaurants and brands.
Yes, thank you on the Housewives of Anywhere.
Speaker 2Okay, I ain't got nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1I don't need I don't got nothing to do with it either.
Speaker 2I just know the food is good, the food food.
Thank you that the service, thank you that the family feel thank you you remember you filmed in the restaurant.
Speaker 1I did my TV show The Message Srip.
But then that's the only time because we had to stage it like that.
Speaker 2But we had to find time.
Speaker 1When it wasn't nobody, when it wasn't busy, because your your businesses are never not busy like it is.
It is never not busy because the food is so good.
But I did all that.
I did that at the top of the show.
And usually guys, you know, when you guys are watching the podcast or you're hearing the podcast, you know people.
I always bring my friends and people that I love.
It's very rarely that I have somebody in here that I don't know.
And usually when we sit down.
It's because we have history with each other.
Yes, so there's a part of the show.
It's called talking shit.
Oh okay, now the guests.
Kelly, it's time for you to talk your ship.
Speaker 2I've been talking shit all week.
Speaker 1You say, who who are you?
What do you do?
What are you proud of?
This is your time to shine, So don't hold back.
You get five minutes to do it.
And basically what I want you to do is look in the camera over there, oh with any one of these mothers cameras, and tell them, niggers, geez, my name is Kelly Pharaoh.
Formally I am.
I want you to run your accolades.
I want you to run your restaurants.
I want you to run your business.
I want you to run your network.
I want you to run I want because the reason why it was important that I did this a part a part of my show is because I get a lot of backlash for being online talking my shit about who I am, absolutely and not just talking my shit about who I am, but talking my ship and standing in I did this, I did that, this and other and I think people should have the right to do that and stand on the ship that they've done and who they are, because people in the public will try to underwhem what you've done, or they'll try to sweep like, oh girl, you you ain't dead.
You ain't, you ain't and it's because they haven't accomplished anything.
And then they look at and they look at us, who who brag on ourselves as narcissists.
This is your moment.
Speaker 2I'm okay with being a narcissist.
All right, Well, ladies and gentlemen and everything in between.
My name is Kelly Ferrell.
I am the owner and founder of Nana's Chicken and Waffles.
I am the cookbook author of Cooking with Kelly.
Speaker 1I am.
Speaker 2The creator of Cocktails with Kelly, Mimosa Mix, Cajun Grits, twenty four Carra Gold Maple Syrup, and Nana's Traditional Waffle Mix.
I am the proud mother of four beautiful daughters.
I am a friend too many.
I am a sister to two other sisters.
And I am in a moment to myself right now where I I am just loving on me and it is this chapter for me.
So that's who I am.
Speaker 1And you also miss that she is a housewife Atlanta.
Speaker 2Clearly I forgot about that.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1I don't know who don't hold a peach, but I know who.
Speaker 2I know who's holding some peaches right now.
I am.
I wore my peach for you, baby.
Yes, and I am a peach holder on the new season sixteen of Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Yes, I came in being a peach, not a friend, but a peach.
Speaker 1I love the way that you said that in there.
I came in holding a peech, not a friend.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1See, I'm gonna come in as a friend and then I'm gonna end up holding a piece.
Speaker 2Come on, friend, come on, friend, I'm s running for you.
What's your tagline gonna be?
Speaker 1I may not have a husband now, but I've already had one of yours.
Speaker 2I can't and this is why I live for you.
Speaker 1I mean, Andy, you already know girl, Oh my god.
Speaker 2No, Now you're gonna have some panties and a bunch with that.
Speaker 1I mean, I mean, well, listen, it's the truth.
I mean, I'm not lying.
Speaker 2I mean, I know you ain't lying lying.
Speaker 1I've had a few husbands.
They've not been mine.
Speaker 2It's a few house husbands.
Speaker 1No, No, I don't know, I don't know a lot of those girls have had not had real husbands that have been real busy in the streets.
Speaker 2But all so you don't need no co you that came in Chillian.
Speaker 1Here, I got to wrap up.
That was a cold statement.
So let's talk about your origin story.
Tell me about a turning point or an experience, a source of inspiration, or a Eureka moment that shaped the path that you're on today.
Speaker 2Oh, I would say it would be my divorce.
M hm, what happened?
Well, you gotta watch your show to see what happened.
But I think leaving, leaving something that was so comfortable for me, and leaving something that was no longer purpose purposeful for me, and just being in a very happy situation.
I think for me, that was my strong point of survival mode.
Right.
So, like now, I was married for eleven years.
I know, eleven years, and you know we have three beautiful children together, and you know, we're able to accomplish so many things.
But at some point, sometimes you lose yourself.
And I think being able to leave on my own terms and having to start over.
You know, so many people didn't realize I had to literally start start my life over again, and that is the part that made me strong.
It made me more independent and I was able to, you know, learn myself again.
And you know still say I can be successful without you.
Speaker 1I remember coming into the restaurant and sitting down at the table because you always had me like a good table in the back over there, hunt because like I want to be in the bag ye And I never ever ordered off the menu.
You just send it.
So, so food is coming.
We eat, Mama eating, And you came in there.
You said, Maddie, you know, I'm getting ready to have a divorce.
Speaker 2And I was like, what, m.
Speaker 1What are you getting Why are you getting a divorce?
Because I remember when we were we were talking before and you I thought that you were happy.
I thought you were happy.
You I saw your nice BMW truck, you know, which made me go by BMW truck.
You know I always look for Yeah, so I so you had your BMW truck and you know you can't We was we was kicking and you you were doing the shows on the Food Network and you were putting your cookbook together and you were still.
Speaker 2Married during this time, and I thought that you were happy.
Speaker 1That's why when when I was eating, I remember me having a spoonful of fried oyster lobster tail and grits and I'm due sauce.
Yes, you love Yes, and I'm breaking it off and I'm eating it and I was like divorced.
Then I said why what he did?
And he was like, well, girl, what didn't he do?
Speaker 2Mm hmm.
Speaker 1I always tell women I might not be a female, but we have lots of shared experiences because my my presentation is female presenting.
I lived my life as a as a woman.
You know, I was born male.
I never shy away from that.
I know that I'll never be a female.
So we don't have to tell y'all.
Don't got to get down in the comments and start screaming all that ship.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 1But I deal with men, and so my first thought was the cheat.
That was my first thought.
And you said you did a lot of things, and you told me he did a lot of things, and you talked about your business.
That's when I failt you, m hm, because a man will come in or a person let me not, let me not man bash.
Yeah, a person will come in and they'll fuck up the business.
They'll fuck up the business, they'll fuck up something that you've worked hard or or you Nana's chicken and waffles and nana stuff.
That's your grandmother.
Speaker 2It's my grandmother.
Speaker 1That's not your blood.
You can't come here fucking up the churches money, yeah.
Speaker 2You you.
Speaker 1You can't come here being no uh liability when I'm an asset to you.
Speaker 2You see the table.
Speaker 1I put, I brought the table.
Speaker 2I bought it.
I built it too.
I built the table too, and set the and set the plates on the table, and serve up the food.
And you ate, and I ate.
Speaker 1We all ate me and you our children.
And I don't want to dig into your business.
I'll let you tell me whatever it is that you want to tell me.
You know, but you have the unmitigated gall to betray or to cause fresher as something that was freely given to you because I loved did you?
Yeah?
Hear that that was not loved.
Speaker 2I loved did you in real life?
I loved you in real life?
Speaker 1How are you healing?
Speaker 2You know what?
Honestly, I've been so clearly, I've done counseling.
I never shy a way of telling that.
Like, I think it's super important for you to talk to someone, right, I mean, thank God for my family and my friends, but you know, talking to professional help thing definitely helps.
And I've just really just put myself into work and my children, you know, business, my projects, and you know, I do a lot of prayer.
Maybe that Bible gets me through some of my toughest days.
And I think when you talk about healing, that's not an overnight process.
Like it's imagine having to still co parent with someone that you're trying to heal from.
Yeah, you know, it's a hard situation.
We still have children involved, and I had to learn to forgive, to forgive and push forward.
And that's hard, that forgiveness part, especially when you have somebody that's constantly like trying to tear you down.
Speaker 1But what he done did to you that?
What's it?
Give me an example of a tear down.
We want to read this, nigga, but shit.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, I think I think you've seen it.
I think we talked about on the second episode about him taking almost five hundred thousand dollars from out the company's bank account when I was on a trip to Mexico.
Speaker 1Wait a minute, hold on for those of you who have not watched the show, but just talk to the people.
For those of who have not seen the show yet.
Yeah, boost them in there to go watch the show.
Yes, So just give us a little, a little small synopsis of why are you getting in this massive divorce?
Speaker 2I had a conversation with a friend on the show and we sat down in my living room and basically, you know, she wanted to know why was I getting a divorce?
And a big turning point and why I had to actually file for divorce is because money's some moneys were missing.
We're stolen.
Speaker 1Oh it wasn't just missing, it was a different there's a different it was taken with missing, but there's another one stolen, stolen.
Speaker 2The money was stolen and uh it.
You know, they didn't give back, so we had to go to court unfortunately.
And you know, those were the turning points.
Speaker 1What they did with the money, Kelly.
Speaker 2Now that I can't you know, you can't talk about it, but a little bit of what they did.
Speaker 1You gotta watch the show on the season.
Speaker 2At it briefly you know about what some you know, what he did with some of.
Speaker 1There's the thing, why why not ask your wife?
Why not communicate with your wife and say, hey, I'd like to invest or stall some kind of lie but don't let me be on a fucking trip and.
Speaker 2I roll over.
Speaker 1You don't think I'm gonna roll over and I'm missing five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2Baby, I rolled over right on that, saying, honey.
Speaker 1Colored man, you don't think that I'm not gonna roll over and be missing five hundred.
It ain't fifty thousand, it ain't five five thousand, it ain't even five hundred.
Listen, I would roll over costs confusion if I'm missing five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2Well, that was a big thing.
So I had to go meet with an attorney, you know, because I'm like, how do I get the money back?
And you know, because I was it was that money was supposed to be used for some other locations, and it just it became a nightmare.
And honestly, to be honest with you, I thought that when I filed divorce for a divorce, because it took me a second.
My attorney was basically like, you you have to make some type of decision like you can't because if you, if you don't make a decision like this could go completely left and it's a possibility that you won't have anything.
And I said, Okay, I said, well, I'm going to do it, but I don't think we're going to go through with it.
I think I really thought that me filing for divorce would scare him and that he would like get his act together.
Speaker 1And like, you know, so you still wanted to have something with him.
Speaker 2I didn't want it to go down that route.
I mean, who gets married to get a divorce, right?
You know what I mean?
Like, I was married for eleven years.
When you get married, you think that you're going to be married to someone for a lifetime.
I come from, you know, the somebody h Well, you know, my grandparents were married until my grandfather died, and my mom and dad have been married for many years, and I, you know, I thought that we could be able to fix it, and it just it was a domino effect.
It just things kept getting worse and worse and worse, and it was no coming back from that.
It was no coming back from the amount of where I loved.
I loved this person, and they just wanted to literally just like tear me apart.
He basically said, like, you won't have anything without me, but you made the table.
He didn't care.
He didn't care if I made the table.
He didn't care if I finished the wood.
It was in his mind.
I needed him.
I had to depend on him.
I think about it.
Even though I ran the restaurant and did all of these things, I still let him be the man.
Speaker 1So I didn't girl.
Speaker 2I couldn't tell you how much the mortgage was, a car payment, a bill.
I didn't have to do any of that.
I can say I was a kept woman, even though I was putting the money into the pot.
Speaker 1But I did.
Speaker 2It was certain things I didn't have to worry about.
So for me to leave him, he definitely didn't.
And I left nothing.
Let me be very clear when I tell you I left him.
I left him, and he told me I could take nothing in the house, nothing nothing.
I had rented a U haul truck.
We had talked about it.
I said, at least let me, you know, take the living room set, so you know, the girls can have something to sit on.
And it was no like left.
I left my house with not one thing.
He told me, I can take nothing except your children, except my children.
So and I took my last little bit of money and started to furnish my townhouse.
Let me tell you something what many people don't know, I slept on an air mattress for two months at my townhouse.
I didn't give a good guy, damn.
I was determined to figure it out and make it on my own.
He didn't help me financially.
He wasn't paying child support.
He wasn't helping.
No.
Girl, Please don't get me started.
You ain't got no alcohol, no champagne, no wine.
Speaker 1Girl.
We do got his here, but listen, I drank this.
But we got to get y'all to sponsored our show the next season, all right.
So I want to get to a part because on many platforms that that I'm on, I talked to women insensively about and I don't want to come off as a man badcher, but I was a prostitute majority of my life.
Speaker 2I didn't know that.
Yeah, okay, I never knew that.
Is that okay?
Speaker 1I mean I spent many years.
That's why I said I may not have had I may not have a husband now, but I've already had your So that was a prostitute when majority of my life.
And so I've a clientele with lots of men, lots of lots of men, married, single, married and single at the same time a lot.
And I always tell women.
You get to meet the guy that's the representative.
The gentleman sends his representative all the time.
He sends his I think people in general sending their representative, but men particularly send their representative.
You get to know that guy, get to know that person.
That person is nice.
Oh my god, so he Oh see.
I don't meet the representative.
I meet the man.
Speaker 2Wow, that's pretty deep.
Speaker 1And because I'm trans also, I meet the dark dark man they want to do all this shit.
Wow, wow, I meet the man.
The man.
Yeah.
See, y'all meet the representative, the one he's sending over there, like you know, the good guy.
I meet that motherfucker from the door.
I want you to suck this dick.
I want you to pull them pennies down around you.
Ain't gonna want to fuck that ass.
I want to suck that dicky.
Then if you got one, I'm gonna fuck you down.
I listen, Hey, I may not have a whole lot of money, or I might got a lot of money.
I want to pay you this.
I want to put you up over here in this place, and you know pay I want to do this to other you know, I got a wife and kids, or I may and I got, I got a girlfriend, I got it in the other I want to talk to you about all the holes that I fucked with too.
I want I meet that and that's somebody's husband.
Speaker 2That's somebody's husband, bitch who.
Speaker 1Yeah, I got this partnership that I'm doing with my homeboy.
Yeah you know what I'm saying.
My wife got this, you understan.
I want you to feel how deep it is?
Why what and and this is the this is the thing that I tell women I don't like.
I get a rapid times because you know these certain women who I don't know what the fuck wrong with them?
Bitches.
Oh, I'm jealous of them because they're women, and I'm mad because I can't be no real woman and I hate black women.
I'll be like, girl, listen if you go on somewhere there stupid as ship.
But I want you to know that I'm not envious of what you don't understand that going out here in the rear the representative you meet that that be at the wedding, dancing and spinning around and I want to spend I said, if you really want to get to know what the what niggas is, meet the meet the not not just me because I'm trans, but meet me.
Meet Listen to the prostitute, Listen to the hooker, Listen to the sex worker.
Listen to what he's spent, what he does spend this time, or what he well, you know, listen to that, because they're telling you that motherfucker show up.
Like That's why it's very hard for me to have a very trusting, a very like I'm always happy when I see women say, oh, I'm getting married.
Speaker 2I'll be like, good for you.
Speaker 1Yes, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2Praying yes, And I love love like you know, like I want to partner.
I don't think I'll ever get married again, but I definitely want a life partner, like I want somebody to do life with.
Speaker 1I want you to know this.
I'm not telling you or telling women to not go on days.
Fuck that man, love him, let me him eat that cheese, let him wind and die.
Speaker 2So you think you should fuck on the first night, Yes, just to see what's happening.
Speaker 1Uh huh?
Got town for all that?
Speaker 2Really?
Speaker 1I ain't nobody got town for that?
Why is the dick might be not big enough?
And then you like, damn, I got the fuck his homeboy, because I see his home friends.
Speaker 2What we didn't pick the wrong home boy.
Speaker 1I see his said.
Speaker 2Now, we didn't picked the wrong friend.
We didn't picked the wrong guy.
Speaker 1To end up doing this anyway.
See this is way I got to come on the show as you're free, so we can have these two so I can say ship like women meet the representative, I meet the man, I meet the man.
You meet you uh, and girls like me and not just girls who are training like sex workers and men who you know.
And I'm not bashing men.
And I don't want this to come up as a bit as a man bashed.
I just wanted to be known.
Yes, it's been your life, have a good time.
But if in the top of your conversation you said, I put the money in the pot, but I didn't know how to pay the bills.
I didn't know how to do this.
I didn't know he did all that he banked on, that he banked on, that he preyed on, that he counted on, that he counted on that like you know what I'm saying.
And so Kelly, what tends to happen as women have this inherent thing that's passed down to them of not servitude, but of submission and you don't want to make the man feel less of you, because listen, as a woman, a woman of your high stature, a woman of your caliber, a woman of who you are, Like it's business, you're gonna always run into a man that either has less than you or he had.
If he has more than you, he can still be intimidated by you because there could be some space or some area where you may reach his level and surpass him, because you've got the ability to do that.
See, we got on the show.
Speaker 2I'm so serious.
I had this conversation.
So we talked about and I think that was another thing with my with my marriage.
It was I want you to be successful, but you can't be.
Don't pass me, you can't pass me.
Speaker 1Don't pass me m hm, because now my manhood is questioned and man and masculinity is so in this day and time and in this state, excuse me, this city.
It's so fragile.
It's so like you can't oh, you know, you gotta be They gotta you know, because it's like the ego and all that type of ship.
I want you to know the next time that you dance in the dark mm hmm, lead the dance and stay the leader.
Let him think that he's leading the dance.
Let a man think you have to, let them think that they have the upper hand.
But you're always ten steps ahead.
Because the moment that they feel like they're ten steps ahead you, they will take advantage of you.
And it's that it's very unfortunate.
And it's not that they don't love you.
Yeah, And it's not that they don't appreciate you when you are a successful woman, especially a successful black woman.
Sometimes he might be in a secret competition.
You might be a secret competition the motherfucker that you lay in to bed with.
Speaker 2Isn't that crazy?
I had to and I said to myself, I asked him, how long have you hated me?
Like?
How long?
Speaker 1I don't think that it was hate.
I think it was I don't think there was hate.
I think that it was intimidation that turned into bitterness, turned into bitterness.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, yes, because for you to tell me that you're a gentleman, let you leave with nothing.
Speaker 1Y'all have four daughters?
What about your girls?
You got girls?
Nigga?
You want your you want your girls to meet a nigga like you?
Are you crazy?
Why are you not doing?
Why?
Why?
Are you not being in other backwards for their mama?
That's those those are women, Like, why are you not, as a man sitting having your daughters.
Your daughters are gonna get married one day, or they're gonna date somebody one day.
You want you want you you want a man doing this to your daughters, what you're doing to your wife?
Speaker 2Yeah, mm hmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1How do you feel now?
Now?
Speaker 2I am at a place where I'm just I'm okay.
You know.
I had to forgive and I had to be in a space where you know, like you said, I do have four daughters and they are dependent on me, and they are looking at me.
I never talked bad about their dad.
Speaker 1And but look at you still look at look at it.
Look at this.
I want y'all to see this.
You're a black woman, still still protecting someone who told you to leave with nothing.
I know, and I really don't think that black men pay attention enough to the way that black women and even us black trans women hold them down too.
I don't be out on the street talking about who I fucked this up and who I did this and the other whatever.
I don't do that.
My tagline is funny it's the truth, but it's funny.
But I don't be out there naming names, pointing this and whatever, still protecting.
Yeah, could be a motherfucker that doesn't did some foul shit over that still protected.
Look, get you a woman, this man told you to leave the fucking house with your four daughters and take nothing.
And you say, I'm not going to talk bad about him to my daughters.
Speaker 2I don't.
I don't and I never will.
Now, what I will do is because people will say, you know, I'm sure they'll look at the show and see things that I've shared when I do talk about him, I always want everybody to know it's the truth.
When I do talk about him or share anything, it's it's the truth.
Speaker 1Black men, you have to do better as black men.
Two black women and then the shit that would piss me off is that they would go date outside of their race.
Oh, and then say us and then make a statement and say, oh, I never get this in house, don't get me, never do that.
Come on, get started, don't get me signed.
I don't even know the depths of the story, but I'm talking from a place of and I'm not even a female.
And it's not because if because if I was a male dating a woman, I would there are things that I've seen males do to women that I wouldn't do.
But this is me as a black transgender woman who have who have experienced this same stuff.
So no, I may not be a female, yeah no, and know I might not be a real woman to the public.
However, we have shared experiences to where we can sit down as my own the lived experience that we will never will never have is I can never bear children, do a womb, and I can never have a period.
But but shared experiences we can sit down and talk about niggas are all fucking day niggas and the way that men treat women and the way that men do the things to them presenting to the way that they you know, especially black fem whatever we could sit I'm it's stuff that we You ain't even went in depth to talking to me.
Speaker 2That you will be like ship No, seriously, I mean, you know he he loves a good a good you know, d R trip.
So I just leave it at that.
Speaker 1With your money, you she won't, she won't bash baby.
Speaker 2You would be taking off more than that what I really wanted to say, you'd be taking off more than that if I really said what I really wanted to say.
But I'm gonna leave it at that.
You know, I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1Girl, I really want to dig, But then it's gonna be like massing.
Don't like men, master hate black men.
No, I don't let me tell you.
I love a black man, love a good old black man.
Baby, listen, I love a black man.
Of BBC tie me up to the back of a truck and dragged me down the street, honey, taking me to the next BBC b Ah, Yes, drag me like this to the next bb fucking scene.
But still can hold them accountable for the things.
You know, I'm accountable.
So I want to shift here just a little bit.
How do you like being on Housewives of Atlanta?
How do you like the show?
How do you like it?
What's what's been the what's the experience?
Speaker 2I love it?
I love it.
I actually had an amazing time filming you.
I had a great time.
I really did, you know.
I'm so used to filming cooking and you know, all of my like cooking shows, Food Network own all of those amazing things.
But to be able to share my journey and my story, I said to myself, I said, if if I do this, I want to make sure that I can use my platform too and buyer and to motivate, right, so you know, just like and the baby, to sell every product, book and everything else that I have besides my you know what, I'll sell it for you, I sell it.
But no, I wanted to make sure that I could use the platform, and honestly I did just that.
You know, I think people got to see me or are seeing me in a different light because everybody thinks, right like social media, it's like, oh, she has this perfect life and she's successful when she's doing all these things.
But nobody knew the hell I was going through and still making it all look so good.
Speaker 1Yeah, because I didn't know.
Speaker 2I didn't know, and I mean I was going through hell, literally and I still was able to get up and put us all on my face and still sell waffles and still get the kids off the school and still do all these things.
And I just wanted to be able to share that to the world that nobody is picture perfect.
We all go through shit real life.
Speaker 1Shit Are you dating now?
Speaker 2Oof?
Baby?
The dating in Atlanta is gatho?
Speaker 1Okay, are you opposed to online dating.
Speaker 2You know, Cynthia asked me that I'm scared, bitch, I'm scared about online dating.
I feel like I'm gonna meet somebody, they gonna tie me up, put me in the basement.
I'm just so scared.
I'm scared I'm gonna get like catfish.
I don't know.
And then Lamont was supposed to hook me up with that one website where you gotta be uh, what was it?
Rayah?
But I don't know.
I've never did online dating.
You know, I'm so old school.
You know, I got married in my twenties.
I mean, I haven't dated.
You know, I've been on a few dates, you know.
Speaker 1But what what's a good date for you?
Tell me what's a good date?
Speaker 2A good date for me is, you know, sending flowers?
I am romance.
Give me the romance.
Speaker 1She want the representative.
Okay, see that's the damn problem.
Speaker 2I want to representative.
Speaker 1You want to representative?
Speaker 2Damn you want that?
So how does that do you get to the man?
Speaker 1And what the man gonna come?
He gonna come?
I mean, we love the representative.
Speaker 2I like a good representative represent for me.
Speaker 1So so, so what's a what is a raw conversation with you and a man like are you in a place now when you date that?
That a raw conversation is like, look, nigga, out of being mad.
I got four girls out on divorce.
What you went too?
You went to side of me?
B DSM?
What you suck?
Dig?
Speaker 2Have you?
Speaker 1Will you do?
Speaker 2You?
Speaker 1How much money you got?
Are you?
Are you down to like like I'm cutting dry with me?
For me, I'm cutting dry?
Maybe what we're doing?
Speaker 2What are we doing?
Okay?
So I don't know if I have asked all.
I'm got your questions and you.
Speaker 1Got to be stern.
You cross your leg like you crossed the right here.
Listen, nigga, I'm rich.
Okay, whatever you don't tell me, I will pay your private investigator out.
Speaker 2I do that before.
Ran a few tags.
Speaker 1Yeah, is this a rental?
I want?
I want to I want to lead on the line to tell you because because I don't want to meet your representative no more, nigga, I've heard met too many represents.
I want to meet.
Speaker 2Who are you?
Who are who are you?
I don't know?
You know?
Speaker 1And never never, sister, I mean never never tell me and what you don't what you do and don't like never tell them to never tell him never because will never never tell them what you do, and don't like let him do because whatever they do is it gonna be.
That's that's how you meet that that's not that's that's how you meet the man.
Let them do.
Let them do.
If you see him, if he if he don't open your door for you, he don't do that, that's not his thing.
Don't tell him.
No, I want my doors open, I want my dear because he gonna come doing that.
I won't flowers every Friday.
I want this.
Don't tell that motherfucking nigga ship really.
Let that motherfucker do exactly what he gonna do.
Let him do it, because that way you'll know who he is.
Yes, because then he'll pattern himself after he'll pattern't fixing the light or she don't like that, and then once he's what's he not gotcha?
And y'all here he cocking his leg up far and burn.
You know what I'm saying.
Listen, I'm coming on the show and do the same conversation with you.
You have to, you have to.
Speaker 2Maybe, I don't know, maybe you can set me up on a blind a.
Yeah, I'm coming on.
Maybe you can help me figure out who the who the man is?
Get me to the man, not the representative.
Speaker 1Yeah, because you need to be stern.
You have to be right now.
You you don't have time.
You're you're, you're, you're a beautiful woman, and you're you're a successful woman.
You got time.
I don't.
Speaker 2And my tolerance level is so bad I will cut, I will stop talking to you, and three two one.
Speaker 1But over what though?
Speaker 2It could just be the littlest things.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 2The men are different, Like, the men are just different.
It's like they don't know how to court women.
It's just you know.
And I hate a man with Instagram?
Speaker 1Is that bad?
Speaker 2I hate a man that's like on Instagram live and talking and taking photo shoot pictures.
And I don't like that.
Zesty ship, I just I just too what is you?
Speaker 1Oh?
Hold on?
Speaker 2Well all right, somebody at the back door.
Speaker 1Somebody at the door.
Speaker 2What's that?
Speaker 1Oh?
Speaker 2Oh wow?
Speaker 1Oh well ship that we now?
Oh okay, Well, because we done got down to this point, Lawrence, Yes, because we done got down to this part.
This is this is this, this is amazing to lead me into my segment.
Okay, God, there's a segment I called I have.
It's called ban it Bitch.
Okay, So here's how it works.
Okay, we each get one minute to make our case for what needs to go.
Like, if you rule the world, what would you band?
You know what I'm saying, because like right now they're baning LBGTQ books, drag shows, and even our very existence as black people.
Okay, but we flipping the script, so now we turn it into now we banning.
So if you rule the world, what is something that you would ban?
And here's how it works.
I'm going to go first, and the people in the booth in there, they're gonna keep track of time, okay, and so what they're gonna do they're gonna count me down, like once I'm reading and I got thirty seconds on it, and then they got ten seconds on it and then so let me just show you how to go.
Y'all ready in now, y'all ready?
Okay, all right.
My name is Tis Madison, And if I ran the world, I would ban people not have having sex on the first day.
I would ben the judgment and the stigma around people not having sex on the first day.
I just personally feel like if you are out here in the world and you're dating someone and you're kicking it with him, and you have a your human being, and you have an urger you want to ride, suck fuck getting the buck hunted and see if that chicken really cluck?
Do what you wanna do?
You feel me like, because you're gonna get it.
If it's in the cars, he gonna be a body anyway.
You know what I'm saying.
Nobody got time for that to be around here kicking it with a man and then he his stroke game is awful.
I'd have mest some fan, pretty sexy, gorgeous men who ain't got no stroke.
Dick.
We hitting all trash and now I got to get his homeboy.
I should have hit the homeboy first.
Matter of fact, I'm gonna go ahead on and do it anyway.
How you doing?
Are we done?
Speaker 2I'm betting?
Speaker 1Okay, that's how bad it work.
Speaker 2That's how bad it bitch ware.
Speaker 1It could be anything you want to be in.
Speaker 2Let me think about what I want to ban.
What annoys means.
I'm a band.
I'm a band lace front.
Speaker 1Okay.
My name is Kelly Ferrell.
Speaker 2My name is Kelly Farrell.
And if I rule the world, I would band lace fronts.
Why I hate a fucking lace front.
Let me tell you something going like going out with girls or being in and you and you sit there and you stay at him.
It's like, bitch, I see the lace.
I hate that.
That bothers me.
It bothers me.
When I can see the lace, when I can see the part, when I can see the net, I just don't think it's good.
I think it's so many fabulous wigs.
You know what I'm saying.
I think you can get tape in, you get the k tips.
I take that fucking stupid ass lace front off.
I hate that.
You know how many of my my employ my coworkers out of seen.
I'm like, bitch, I make them put the makeup on there or something.
Speaker 1I hate it.
Speaker 2It bothers me.
I hate a lace Frint, ban it make them gone lace?
Frint.
Speaker 1Yes, I love a lace, but banded if we got that, bitch band a lace you mean bad bad laces?
Speaker 2Okay, well bad laces.
I ain't seen a good one yet.
Speaker 1On a show full of women with lace front.
Speaker 2Oh Jesus, take some damn laces off.
Speaker 1Thank you so much for coming.
Thank you, I love you.
Thank you.
I love you too.
Thank you for letting me pour into you.
Thank you let me talk to you about this.
Thank you because I really want you to feel what I'm telling you.
You know what I'm saying.
I really want you to go out here in this world, and I really want you to the next time that you have go around and then in the spind you just got to be blunt.
Okay, how big is it?
M do we got skin on it?
Speaker 2Do we ask for pictures?
Let me see?
Speaker 1No, we want to pull it out, let me see.
I can work with it.
I can handle that.
Okay, No, no, I can't handle that.
I don't want to ask you how many miles you got on it, but I really do because I know you're gonna lie to me while you got Instagram.
What you're doing on Insta?
Speaker 2You know, just absolutely absolutely to save yourself.
Yes, a lot of time, like e lev Yes, I'm sacrificing, bitch.
Speaker 1To save yourself.
Speaker 2Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1I got to go hard on the plain.
Speaker 2I gotta go hard.
Speaker 1I love your sister.
Speaker 2I love you.
Speaker 1Yes, listen, I'm glad that you came because now I told y'all I was gonna get on the housewives of Alina.
I'm coming in as a free but I'm leaving with a gaggle of peaches.
Yes you are, baby, I'm leaving with some baby.
Thank y'all for tuning in.
Yes, bye, bye bye.
Who did we do it?
Speaker 2Oh?
My God?
Speaker 1And word it was good.
Outlaws is a production of the Outspoken Network from iHeart Podcasts and Turtle Run Entertainment.
Co created by Tyler Rabinowitz and Olivia Piece.
I'm your host Tis Madison.
We are executive produced by Tyler Rabinowitz, Maya Howard and Tis Madison.
Our supervising producer is Jessica Krinchich and our producers are Joey pat and Common mol Our video editor is Tyler Rabinowitz and our sound editor is Just Crime.
Our associate producer is Trent high Tower Special thanks to our producers assistant Daniel Rabinowitz.
Our theme song is composed by Wazi Mayer.
Our show art is by Pablo Martinena Cat You Next Week, Honey,