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Cynthia Bailey.

Sat out, yes, all right.

So when I ran it to you at the the Truth Award, the Truth Ward in La.

I ran to you at the Truth of the Wards in La and you were so voluptuous.

Thank you.

I didn't know.

That you was on a weight loss journey.

I didn't know that.

When I saw you, I was so and I kept doing it and I and I want to tell you I'm sorry because I love thick women.

I love thick I love was women because I see myself as that, as a thick, voluptuous woman.

And then I love I saw and I'm used to seeing you skinny, like skinny.

Yes, yes.

And when I saw how I was like, oh my god, I feel that that girl felt that she's hippie like she was.

It was I was like, oh, from a place of oh my god.

Like oh you know, and I hope that I didn't make you feel bad because I think somebody tell me it was like mas, you know, she real sensitivebout a way.

And I was like, I was like, oh my god, I'm sorry, like I was in admiration.

Mode because and honestly, Madison, I took it as a compliment, like you were like, oh girl, you look guy.

Yes you around, turn me around in a circle, coming back around, because I'm not used to seeing you so plump, yes, vous, voluptuous, Yeah, I like the word voluptuous, curvy and thick.

Think was the word which is?

Which is a compliment?

It is And for me, I'm at a point in my life I am.

I am on a wellness journey, right, Okay, So I do want to lose a little bit of weight.

I've always been, you know, just you know, the beginning of my career was my modeling career.

So I've always been scanny basically, and that was for my work.

However, at this point in my life, i am fifty eight years old.

What, I'm on the other side of menopause.

What and everything has just stopped moving in a different way.

Yeah?

What fifty eight?

Yes, I turned fifty eight this year.

I'm a Pisces on the cusp of a quarries and pisces action.

But anyway, okay, I know take.

It all in, I had all it what, Yes, very proudly so I'm yes, yes, yeah, I'm amazing.

I'm on this on the cusp of Scorpio.

Oh okay, my daughter's a scorpio October twenty second, okay, Noel's November nine.

Oh, yes, she's a corpio.

Scorpio yes, yeah.

Yes, on water definitely.

But anyway, you don't have to apologize.

Okay, Well, I just because you don't owe me an apology I received as a compliment.

I was just I'm in a space of just being my best, best, healthiest way right now, and for me, I know that I'm not the size that I want.

To be right now.

So I just kept laughing because I was like, if t is company woman, I'd be like, yeah, good.

Girl.

It was because you know what I'm saying.

Here's the thing.

I think what what tends to happen with with black women?

You know, and and and you know what a black woman should be in today's society, Like everybody wants a black woman to be, you know, like or they everybody want this, everybody on this fitness thing and not saying that everybody, Oh I want to be skinny.

I wanted this.

I'm from the girl growing up looking at black women when they was thick to the boss.

You know what I'm saying.

I'm from from Miami.

I know, I'm from a band.

I know exactly the woman.

You know what I'm saying.

And I see that it's outside and then you sit on a woman who you've watched on TV and you've watched be you know, slim, and then when you see it's like, oh ship, you know, and and and like I don't have a sexual attraction to women, but I can respect beauty and body when I see it.

And when I see it, I was like, whoa, yes, because that's as.

Growing up being a boy looking at women.

And and and you're saying like she when I get me some here right right, I'm I'm dad too.

So to see that it was you you look amazing, amazing, and so me looking at it, I.

Just was because I'm so used to yeah, no, no, no, baby, apologize, okay apologizing you know that was a genuine genuinely as a compliment.

But I'm just in this space.

I have a I'm working with weight watchers to just get control of my weight, to just have a different conversation with food, which is like, you know, just be mindful because I, like I said, everything just stopped moving after I went through menopause.

So with that said, I just wanted to be the way a healthy weight that I wanted to be.

And it was never about being skinny, like I'm like I said, I'm fifty eight, like I have been skinny my whole life.

I'm not trying to get that.

I don't even think my body wants that at this point.

I just, you know, gut health.

I just wanted to kind of make sure I'm think and fine and hell are yes.

So I'm I'm not a biological woman.

I'm a transgender woman.

So talk to me about menopause.

I'd like to talk about that.

Oh my goodness.

Okay, So menopause it's like three parts.

It's pre menopause and then you're actually going through menopause, and then it's the other side, which is postmenopause.

So it varies in age in terms of when you can start menopause.

You can start menopause pre menopause in your thirties forties, it really doesn't matter.

I started, I would say maybe in my late forties, almost fifty.

That's when I started going through menopause.

When my periods, your periods eventually stop happening.

But like I remember, like I would get one and then it would I would not get a period for like three months and be like, okay, I'm in it's it's it's over, like it's done.

And then I would it would come back, and I'd be like, Okay, so basically your periods stop eventually, which is great, so that you ain't missing them.

With that, You're very lucky to do with that, okay, because those periods definitely, you know, wear us out.

So with that said, and then I also I think for the most part for me, I didn't really go through the hot flashes and all that stuff, so you know, not missing that either.

It's like, you know, a lot of women are very uncomfortable.

A lot of women gain weight regardless of what they're doing.

They could be exercising, watching their diet, but your body just kind of like stops, like it just stops.

How do I put it?

Things just stop moving the way it used to.

Like if you used to be able to eat burger and fries, now you just eat the burger, no fries, and you're still going to gain the same weight.

It just it just becomes the body different body.

It makes you retain it.

Makes you retain water.

I definitely retain water.

All of the things like just not feel good.

You know, you don't sleep well.

You know a lot of people go back and forth with that.

I would say the biggest thing for me was I didn't deal with the sleep issues that much, nor the hot flashes, but it was just the you know, my body just started changing.

So this is pre or post.

Or between really really in between and then on the other side post as well.

So so what happens posts menopause.

Well then you're like, then you have your new body that you didn't have before.

And it could be you know, for me, it's very individual, you know, for women.

But for me, all of a sudden, you know, I could, you know, exercise not exercise.

It just every thing just started being a little harder to manage.

And you know, I'm in you know, with my career, I have to stay on top.

Yeah, you know, it wears out.

We gave the way, you know, stomach whatever.

You know, I'm.

Definitely up on my gut health issues because for some reason, I'm at that age where everything just kind of goes to my misssection.

Then I'm like, I mean, I'm too old to get pregnant child, but still, you know, I'll be on the celebrity.

Baby bump list.

It just don't look good because I feel like I love my butt, I love my breast, I love my body.

I love the thickness of my body.

I just want my stomach to be flat.

So you haven't, so I'm glad that you with weight Watchers.

Yes you haven't done the GLP.

Well you know, well okay, so here's the thing.

You know, Watchers has been around for a long time, and now what they do is you go through the program, which is really like a points program where you just basically you your list of foods that you can eat it, you know how many points they are, and you just kind of stay within that system.

Usually, like for me, it was like thirty three.

All right, So anyway, but once you get to that, but you just got to stay within that point system, all right, and then you know you will you will see that.

You know, you gotta do your water, you gotta do all the things, and of course working out is always.

Helpful, all right.

So anyway, but once you get to that and you start eating the way you're supposed to be eating and stay within your point system, what happened with me.

I started to just kind of like plateau.

Nothing was really moved.

It was like, okay, all right.

So now the new weight Watchers they do have the clinical part that they offer, which is the semi glue tie.

So you can do it little so you can do it.

Yeah, but you got to go through all their team and they have to like, you know, make you know, check all your blood pressure, cholesterol, like all the things, and prescribe the doses that they feel like is right for you.

So the joint weight watch joint wait.

Watch was definitely.

But I don't know you've done these semigle tis right, I've done a little bit.

Okay, I tell you, well, I'm a little bit because I can't stay.

It's like, okay, So because I was going to ask you how you felt on them, well, I'm telling you if you if you cause I take hormones too, yes, okay, okay.

So it also affects the way my weight refluctuating and ship and sometimes I'd be like, oh my god, like why am I so fucking fat?

And then it's like I can't get little And then and then then I noticed sometimes like like there was a time.

That he was making me.

Get on the treadmill.

You know, it's nobody training and all this stuff.

This time he trains too, Okay, so he was making me get on that ten minutes a day, get on the walk the treadmill, ten minutes a day, okay, walk ten minutes a day walk.

I didn't notice in a week there was a little something.

Okay, okay?

And how did you feel though?

How did you feel?

I wanted to eat?

What the fuck?

Eight?

So it it's just like, but you look like you've lost You've lost a lot of it.

I haven't seen you in a while, to be honest, until we saw each other in l A and then we were on a flight together, and then we were at the Trysts yeah hotel, hotel opening in Mexico together.

But the geo them damn semi glue tie ship girl.

It's funny because it's like I'm like that, am I home?

Grey?

Did I eat?

You know?

Right right?

Like it's my stomach heart right right right, I'm crapping right here, like oh, you know, it's where you got to make sure you take the right dosage.

Number one.

My doctor started me with the zero point two five.

When I think zero, that's low, that's little, yeah saying you know he started me.

That was happening with that dosage For me, I had to up it a little bit.

Yeah, but I don't know.

For some reason, and I'm probably on my what am I like on my second month of it.

Now, that's something about my mood or something.

I feel like it kind of like there's something about the mood part of it, the mental part of.

It, because it does to your brain to where it makes you.

What tells you you're not hungry?

I guess, and you shouldn't.

Well maybe it shouldn't eat it.

Maybe then it tells me I'm not huggy.

But it tells me that the other age?

What what's the other age?

It makes?

I'm like, I ate nothing.

Ship, I could get into somethings.

Ship, I ain't nothing.

I said that on the symptoms.

I hate nothing.

I could get into some with my phoney.

But anyway, you look amazing.

Thank you, sister.

You listen you do too, but thank you.

I'm doing a little sum I'm trying trying to lose more.

I want to lose about fifty pounds.

You won't lose fifty, Okay, about fifty fifty.

But listen, I used to be a little body.

I used to be a ronie.

I used to lit you did.

I used to be this is not just a lieutendant ron I used to be a little tend on.

That thing was a little bit it was.

It was a little more.

I had a little bit more awful.

I had to move no stomach out the wet.

I had a little bit more awful.

You can see, I see, you can see what's going on.

But I could see that motherfucking but I had a little bit more, a little bit more awful.

You know.

All right, Well, you know we can talk.

We can talk if you want to do.

Just would love you.

I think he would be great to report what you think they would, you know absolutely.

I mean I can't speak for him, but I'm just saying I think.

I would that would really because it's different because like for me, you know, someone would look at me and be like, oh, you don't need to lose no weight.

But it's like, this is my body.

I know the weight that I want to be.

I know, like you can't tell me the healthy body that I want to live in every day.

Yeah, so you are you know, you have your weight loss goals.

You know your friend over here he may feel like he may lose some weight.

So it's like very individual.

It's all about what you want.

You don't have to be, you know, a certain size to decide the weight that you would like to know and get a management you know, they're all about like helping you manage your weight because it's hard to man.

I got enough stuff to manage.

I gotta menagerement way too, And I never really had to do that before because it's like a lot your brain is telling you, like man.

And then the way that my work schedule is we be all over the place absolutely and like I'm like, I want to eat.

I'm gonna pizza.

Well see, here's the other thing too, with our travel, because I know you travel all the time, because like I said, I done ran unto you on a few points.

At this point, when you're hungry, if you don't have a lot of options, you're at the mercy of like what's in the airport, And once you get hungry, you just want to eat something.

And then when you land that's what it's.

Late flights.

You get in the city and it's just like, girl, I ain't had none to eat off day, and for some reason I get.

Hungry at night.

That's what it kick in for me.

I get in that hotel, turn the TV and I'm like.

Girl, what's open?

What's over each?

He got none around here?

I know, I know.

So that's where I'm at with I would really love it.

And you have something else I do, I do.

I brought you a bottle of myne wonderful tequila.

Commissario.

This is the blanco.

We do have the other flavors as well, and I'm so excited to be a partner and a shareholder with this company.

What is it tequila, commissaria, commissario.

Yes, it's period.

Oh, it's everything.

It's very smooth and it is delicious.

I'm a tequila girl.

I really am, like I don't really drink a lot, but if I'm gonna drink, I want to go and get onto.

Okay, yes, kill a story.

Do you hear me say tequila?

Yes, I fussed the stuff up Aquila.

I get the fighting and all kinds of stuff.

I love it.

Listen that ship don't make it to a fight and sometimes both sometime bo okay, but I like it.

So so it's you say it's very smooth.

I see, it's just one hundred percent.

This is blanco.

This is the blanco.

Yes, okay, you know I put my glass.

Look at us, one hundred percent gave blanco.

Yes, Yes, I'm going to receive this.

Yes, and we're gonna take with this, I'm going to receive this, and I'm only gonna pull a little bit.

What do you chase your tequila with?

You know what?

At this point, I don't really need a chance.

No, no, you know, I may do lemon and salt, but that's really it because I can almost drink it straight too.

Now because going back, I'm not I don't want to make this whole thing about weight.

But actually alcohol was one of the things because I like the cocktail.

The sweet alcohols, those are not my friend.

They have a lot of sugar.

So I had to like start, if I was going to have a drink, I have to do it straight.

Yes, all the margaritas, love the margaerite, lemon drops, all of them, four of sugar.

Right, your train is over there saying those are the points.

You eat up all your points, well, literally, drink up all your points on your drinks.

How many cocktails a day do you have?

I don't have any.

Okay, well, okay unless we're social gatherers.

Well how social art will very Oh my god, yeah, it's the drinks.

The drinks was the drinks were making me gain more weight than even just even eating.

So but anyway, just go and drink it straight, child.

Women is gonna be able to help me.

I think so I do.

Everybody has their own weight loss story, they really do.

And I think you would be a great representation.

I would love please have them talk to me.

Watch you hear she said, come on down here to the place and get myself.

And that's you know what.

That's so funny when people say that.

But when I tell you, it's real though, because when I tell you, my back is is definitely a bigger back, and I'm like the game.

Than normally, the bigger back than you're normally.

Definitely, I'm definitely big backed.

My back is definitely bigger.

You you do know that men like bags.

Oh I haven't had any complaints.

Oh I know you don't.

I know you don't.

I'm over here looking at chocolate.

I'm over here looking at this delicious.

He's kiss over here, Thank you and so.

But when we're in this area, what's going on in your love life?

Oh?

My love life?

Well, I am dating.

I'm in a relationship, actually, yes, a age gap relationship.

Eighteen years younger.

He is almost forty.

Well, listen, he's over thirty.

He's over there.

Praise praise.

He is European.

He lives in Amsterdam.

He actually just left going back to Amsterdam today for a wedding, this friend's wedding.

I wasn't able to go because I'm working.

I like long distance relationships, but this is challenging because it's like the time difference and stuff.

Because here's the thing.

He's a musician.

By the way, his name is Le Prince.

We're not on social media together, and that was very intentional.

You asked me why I was intentional.

You saw about eyes like girl, what what?

Well?

We made that specific choice because I just personally don't feel like social media is a.

Positive space for celebrity relationship.

It's not.

This is not they wear us out.

And listen the moment you post your man h, you posh your girlss, you know, it becomes relationship goals and see people be down in the conversa relationship didn't be down there in boxing.

You know you're looking at his inbox that all you see is pushing lists every well, there you are you he trying to you.

He looked at your.

Inbusses and say, hey, I've been waring you for a long time.

You see digging it's like, girl, what in the fuck?

Like I thought, y'all just set relationship goals.

But here's the thing it Scott, It works both ways though, because if you if I feel like, if we're going to put our relationship out there, we do open up the door for people to comment.

So that's why we decided, you know, we're just not gonna put it out there now.

We also we're outside in real life.

We do our thing, you know.

He goes to you know, events with me, premieres, you know, you know, all the things that I do, and I like it.

We've been together for almost a year and a half and it's.

It's been great.

The distance is the only thing that's it's it's hard because I can't work over there.

I ain't got no work in answer today, no, So.

He can work a little bit here, but he's mostly known from you know, for over there, so most of his work work is over there, So he comes back and forth a lot more than I'm able to.

I go, you know, during the holidays and stuff like that.

When I'm all.

So, you know, I'm going to ask the question because I shi sister, you can answer that your own discretion.

Okay, But it's just because I love a disclaimer.

I know, answer your discretion.

Okay, So long distance relationship is it?

Is?

It?

Is it?

Not you?

I'm just just because I don't want it.

I don't want to get you in trouble.

Long distant relationship.

Does that still leave a door open for friends?

Not for me and not for him?

Like we're we're exclusive with each other, And.

What makes exclusivity happen?

Like, at what point do you get exclusive with a person?

I mean, some moodies cause something.

Okay, well, get ready to talk.

At what point do you have exclusivity like with a person now, especially being a star?

Okay, all right, So for me personally, I can't speak for everyone, but for me, it's just getting to know each other and getting and you know, and building a trust, building trust with each other, consistency, just being very intentional, you know.

I mean I I can't be in a relationship with you if you don't want to be in a relationship with me.

So it has to be you know, it has to be mutual, and we both have to you know, not want to see anyone else.

Basically, my schedule is crazy, like I barely even have time for a relationship if I can be honest, and that's probably one of the issues that we kind of have is that I don't really have a lot of time too to go to Europe and you know, hang out works for me.

Are you in a relationship?

Are you single?

I'm everything.

That explained.

I'm in a relationship.

I'm single, I'm dating, I'm married.

I love you, relationship, you're married.

Yes, anything that is needed.

You're all the things.

You're literally all the things you gotta be.

Well, here's why, here's whey, here's where I am now at forty eight.

Okay, and maybe when I'm in ten years, when I'm fifty eight, I might be in a different place.

But where I am right now, if forty eight is I'm well, I'm a lib so I'm always gonna match energy.

Yeah, yeah, I'm an energy match Yeah.

I love so It's like, you know, if I get me the guy and you know we're kicking it and stuff like that, I'm gonna say, hey, my phone's ringing.

You know what that means, Bring me in the house because I'm outside.

But you got to bring me in the house because I'm outside, nigga, because if you outside, I'm my motherfucker' about the motherfucker dog.

I'm like you outside, but then when I'm inside, I'm letting all my I'm letting everybody at the door open the window and say.

Hey, I'm in the house right now.

Okay.

Now, if this nigga hits me, I'm coming big outside, back outside.

Okay.

Wait, wait, So would you ever get marri Have you ever been married before?

What do you think about marriage?

Because I've been married a divorce twice.

And we're gonna talk a little bit just to just because I don't want to get in there.

You have I thank you.

Yeah, I would get married, but he has to understand he got to keep me in the house.

But how does someone keep you in the house by not going outside?

Because it does have to work, you, I mean you, I feel like you will meet so many people just.

At work all the things.

Oh I meet that all the time.

But if I'm with a man, I'm in the house until I find out he outside.

When he outside, I'm out the door and I ain't making no secret of it.

Okay, let's just assume that he's not going to be outside.

I'm going to open the window telling on me inside, and if he hit me, I'm on the way out, So y'all stay close to the water.

Okay, all right.

Basically, what I'm saying is I'm not gonna say I'm not and I and here's the thing with with with wh with some women.

But I look, I think that it's the center like women sometimes make men the center of their lives.

Yes, yes, because that's.

What women are bred to do.

Women we were taught taught to Women are taught to be mothers and wine.

Correct, you can have your career, you can have this and whatever, but come home and be a wife and a mother.

Niggas be outside, right, they be out the door.

Women and the wife and the mother.

The wife and the mother is home that she's doing.

The mother and the wife do this, and the niggas outside or then the phone rang because somebody else otside.

Right, Well, times have changed to.

Gray your man outside right while you in the house bacon and frying.

I don't want to be that woman, you know, because I'm not a competitive I ain't come again.

I'm gonna say this out loud for us for a nigga can hear me.

I'm not I'm not compete with ship right, you get the acting up.

I'm acting up too.

I'm not compete because we the sign.

You're gonna master the energy we meet the motherfucker you outside myself, I'm not a dog, and.

I ain't realized that I'm outside.

Let you know, I'm at the dog.

I'm gonna take a picture and show you on outside.

I ain't gonna sneak around.

I ain't gonna do none of that.

And it always hits different when the woman decided to go outside.

It's different then, and then everybody wants trying to make it side.

I want to come in the house.

I might stay out of the dog, right you you don't open them.

I told the people to stay about the wind.

I'm having a good time exactly.

You know what I'm saying.

I here bacon ship.

I had to learn how to bake a cake.

Yeah, because when you met me, I was already outside.

I don't came here bacony cake, scrambling eggs, frying chicken, changeing pamples.

No, oh, you got clean, too clean enough?

Va?

Yeah?

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

No, I'm about an equal player.

That's true.

Well, I will say that after two marriages and two divorces, I definitely I'm very much in my me like my me moment era, saw Girl era, Happy Girl era, Take my Peace era, Uh, let's be fair era you I make my own money era, But I always have been in that era.

But yeah, you can put some on it as well, like all of those things.

So I actually, you know.

It's not really when you break it down like that, it's not really the whole marriage thing.

Like I feel like it needs to be updated.

The rules?

What what what?

What?

What?

What?

What do we need to add to it?

Well?

I feel like if I got to cook and clean, then my husband should have to cook and clean.

I don't think that should be solely just a wifely duty.

I think that should be a partner ship.

I think I cooked Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and you cook Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

Then we can both cook on Sunday, but we can go out thereat on Sunday.

We both got to clean, we got to wash clothes like all of that.

A marriage should be a partnership.

But when you rid, and with the money too.

But when you rid.

The maid of the housekeeper, but whatever, the chef is gonna be in that cooking with me, right, Well, yeah, don't be in the cooking.

You come on.

I don't end like you got money to nine don't.

Do this, okay, all right, so that's what it is.

That okay, that was love of one.

Okay.

As we can get.

Money and and drivers and all those days, well then somebody you don't have to do it yourself, but somebody got paid for it, right, So that's still where the partnership comes in.

That's still you know, we have a driver, we have a cook, we have a housekeeper.

Because I need them to be doing it so I can enjoy you.

Yeah, I can enjoy you.

I can go watch TV.

Yeah, whole hand, go to the beach and go in the in the in the at the picnic, and.

The maid of the house key whatever it is, whatever we want to call them, and open the basket.

And then you have so much more of you to give your partner because we work hard and I know.

You were, yes, but since this is how this is how I see life for me, because I see life for us as people in the public and stars and ship.

I don't got time to do all that, Like you really don't have time, Yeah.

Nigga, I ain't got time.

And I love my mama.

Yes, when I come you you met her when I just come outside, uh Cynthia from working.

If anybody gonna keep me grounded on this earth, it's gonna be that lady.

Yes, I come home, boot go over there and get this and move them.

That's my mama.

I'm like, my but I just got home.

God damn, I just walked in the dome, Mama.

My mom just saying way.

My mom would call me and be like, hey, what you what you?

What you doing today?

I was like working doing me?

You know I'm working.

She's like, oh, okay, I didn't know you was.

I thought maybe it was off today, been off since I was sixteen.

Years to take me to the stove.

Let's go, don't.

I'm gonna have somebody to come over here and pick that up or bring that your to your She don't like that, Yeah, she don't like that.

She don't like it.

My head turned TV.

Yeah yeah, yeah, she don't like that.

But wait, what's what's your Okay?

So how do you decompress?

How does someone like you decompressed?

What's your favorite way to decompressed?

Do you like massages and stuff?

Uh?

Yeah, think like what kind of massage?

I like?

Medicine was relaxing massage.

Do I like that kind of massage you know, your.

Feet like I love having my feet eat massage.

I had massage mother, Listen, you.

See I had but my my, my unwine is I like movies?

Me too, Me too.

I like nostalgia, like old movies.

Yes, I like.

Cartoon I like all that, like like you like documentaries true crime.

Now, I do like to watch how if I have to kill that?

If I have to kill thatigg I got I got to figure out how I will cover about it.

Oh my god, I gotta figure out how.

Yes, so I do like you.

It's not going out.

It's gonna gets good.

You feel comfortable though, you feel very comfortable because listen, I don't want to boy brush you with that stuff people, because.

You'll tell me what you wants to other stuff all the time.

No, I love this, yeah, because I don't get Listen, we care about that stuff, Cynthia.

We do, but it's just like we're saying, we.

Know you was friends with Nini, we know the ship going on the show, we know about these other people.

I don't give I don't really give a fuck about that stuff because you're a human being, and I think what tends to happen with people is that they forget that we are human beings.

And that ship you see on TV or that shit you girl, we're getting paid to do this job.

You know, I don't like her.

She may like me.

I don't really give a fuck.

I'll clock you in and I leave that ship.

The only downside to that is when you get into a relationship, when your personal life starts coming into this, that's the downside to that.

That's because then it becomes.

Because now you're going home from work and your work is then you're still dealing with and that you gotta explain.

You got to explain while you in the house baking and frying.

You gotta explain why, nigguy side.

You understand what I'm saying.

Now you have to.

That's why I don't do that shit, because I'm not finna explain to no motherfucking body.

Why this nigga outside?

Bit?

You know why he outside?

Here a nigga, that's why he outside.

You know this, why he outside.

No matter how big of a star you are, how much money you make, whatever, you still face human problems.

Oh absolutely.

And if you marry somebody, if you date someone, if you're talking and they don't respect your star, You're gonna be subjected to that shit.

So being that we both know that, how.

Do you maneuver through that type of stuff?

Now?

Oh?

Wow?

You know I.

Put myself first, and you know it's easy to say that, but I really honestly do at this point in my life, like, I'm very much an energy person.

If it don't feel right, I just don't be around nobody.

I don't want to be around.

Now.

If I'm getting paid to be around it, that's a whole another store.

Now, I can work with anybody.

The energy is what it is.

But I'm not in my own free time making a choice to be around anyone.

Oh, I don't want to be around I don't like you.

You'll really care for me?

The energies all you know, you're you know, I love being around.

Everything I try to do comes from a space of love.

I like being around positive people.

I like being around successful people.

I like being around people that are in good spirits most of the time.

I know everybody walking around here doing the walk, But I'm just saying, for the most part, I can't do a lot of negativity.

That's too much, that takes me too fast.

If you are just negative all the time, Like I don't thrive in those situations.

So boundaries are very important.

I understand the value and said, nope, no, I'm not gonna.

Be an make it.

People don't understand I don't want to.

I'm not gonna be.

And it's not even that I can't go.

I don't feel like I don't want to.

I want to sit on my couch and watch Netflix tonight.

That's what I want, is a complete sentence.

Yeah, yeah, I no longer people please.

I used to be a huge people pleaser, not anymore.

Take me a leave.

What changed?

I got older, life, changed relationships.

Just looking back on my life and I was like, you know what, I have to put myself first, and it's okay to say that out loud, like I am is only as good as I am and I'm just doing the best that I can do.

So if there's any one around me who is making my life difficult, my life unhappy, my life unpeaceful, you.

Just do I gotta go.

I gotta go.

I just don't want to do that anymore, I honestly, but rather you know how to the old say you do bad all by yourself and be around a bunch of people who are not pouring into me, you know, because I'm I'm a giver, I'm a I'm a helper.

I'm very resolution oriented.

If you got a problem, as soon as you say, oh it is that, okay, I'm already like, okay, how are we gonna fix it?

Okay, so you know, let me call this person.

Okay, you know what, you should call that person.

Let me let me do this, let me let me go with you over here to talk to this person, like I'm that person.

So if you're not trying to get to the other side of like going back to the happy place, like because I don't want to be stuck over here too long, Like Okay, you got two days to be saying, Okay, your man left you, you wanna left you, whatever, Okay, sit it two days and then call me when you want to get out of it, because I want to.

I want to be the girl to say, hey, let me, you know, come over, come over the lake, Bailey, Let's go have a drink, let me take you to dinner, let me treat you to a massage, Let's.

Do a vitamin IV drip, whatever, whatever's gonna get let's go.

Let's go out.

It's something that door and go outside.

Now, cynthy hell, you ever been a fighter?

A fighter in what way?

Like a physical child?

I have one fight in my life, and after that I knew I was not cut out.

Fight I remember, and it was a horrible story.

I can't even believe that I'm even saying this right now.

But I was in I think middle school, and I still remember her name, but I will not say it because no power.

I have no power.

I remember it was in middle school.

Maybe, yeah, I think it was at least Okay, I'm just gonna say middle school.

I can't remember, and I feel so bad because I didn't know like what bullying was, you know.

I just wanted to like be with the cool kids.

And a lot of cool kids are mean kids.

Basically they're popular and they're mean.

And this one girl, she was not in the in the cool kids crowd, and somebody dared me to, like, you know, pick with her or whatever.

And I just remember walking into the classroom and I forgot to bring my pencil.

Okay, this is how old I am, man, I've got to bring my pencil, and she has her pencil on her desk, and I just walked to her up to her desk, and I just like, she I think she may have been right, And I just took out her hand and went and sat down and was like, you know, I thought I was all cutter, but I was laughing, like I was like, I was like, look at me taking her pencil for And then somebody said that she was mad about it, and then they were like, well, y'all need to beat in the girl's bathroom and work it out.

So I was like okay.

So then everybody and I didn't even know.

At that point, then it just moved everything really fast because I was like, okay, I took the pencil.

That was all I really felt comfortable doing that.

I actually felt bad about it, to be honest, I really want to look keep giving back.

When nobody because you didn't want to do that.

Now I got the damn pencil.

I got to like stand in and now I'm like I'm already there.

Every think I'm cool because I did this.

So anyway, somehow it gets to the point that after lunch that apparently which I didn't know, we were gonna be fighting in the girl's bathroom, Can I just get a pencil back?

I decided up to.

Listen.

It just went too far.

So anyway, So now I got to show up.

Everybody's in the girl's bathroom waiting to me.

I walk in there and I'm like, please.

Don't let this girl show up.

Girl.

You know, she showed up like you have one job, do not I show up?

So she show up and literally just came right up to me and just started wearing me out.

I don't even know when I.

Was supposed to start.

I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, I don't even know.

I don't know.

We can just take each other on site.

When I said, she had me hammed up under the toilet, just wearing me out.

That was the only that was.

And I listened and.

I decided, Actually, I was like, you know what, forget these cool kids.

I'm gonna be a good person, Like I just can't be like that.

You say, I get no, I ain't getting nothing.

No.

It was horrible.

Have you ever been to fans of the worst thing you.

Lose for so long?

Girl, I can show you scars and listen, I get it on the floor to dates it's that.

Ain't bet for it.

I choose peace.

I choose peace, but I will if I got to.

Use good to yellow weapon, that's one of the trade.

That is not a web.

Once done, I'll get active in this month.

When did you know that you were who?

You were?

Beautiful?

Uh?

Oh wow?

No one surpressed me that.

When did I know I was beautiful?

I was never told.

I never even heard the word beautiful as it was to describe me until I moved to New York City to start my modeling career.

Like I never heard at school, never heard around my family.

No one's like, oh my god, you're so beautiful, Like, just.

Never heard that.

I don't even know if I heard that I was cute.

Actually, before I started modeling, I was like tall, lanky, the high cheek bones.

But I was like, you know, models have a kind of specific kind of beauty.

Like I always thought like, like, you know, the girls on like I was a children and all that stuff.

Too, but like the little short, cute girls, I was like, they're like the ones that all the boys like.

Nobody was like checking for me like that.

So anyway, so I moved to I ended up being in the one and Only beauty pageant.

I was actually, okay, let me take you back a second.

So I was homecoming queen in my high school.

And I was the first Black African American homecoming queen of my school, which was awesome because like my court was you know, I had my beautiful court and I was the queen, so that was that was amazing.

So anyway, so what happened with me being homecoming queen.

I was invited to be a invited to be a part of a homecoming queen pageant actually right here in Atlanta, Okay, so I'm a part of the pageant.

Never been in a pageant.

I think I'd recited I think my talent.

I didn't really have any talent, so I think I recited Mark Doctor Martin Luther King's I have a Dream speech because I had it.

I had a talent, but I had a dream.

Please know that I always had a dream, so that that speech always resonated with me.

So I did.

That didn't end up winning anything, didn't place or anything like that.

I thought, damn, I can't even get miskage aali.

I thought I was cool with everybody whatever.

Anyway, so I didn't win, but I kind of won because one of the judges was a model scout from Wilhelmina Models in New York City.

So after the pageant was over, she was the I was the only.

Person that she approached and she wanted you know, she basically offered me a modeling contract in New York to, you know, with Wilhelmina Models.

And that's how your career, that's how it started.

So I went home and I was like, okay, whatever.

You know, I'm already like thinking about college and you know what I'm gonna do after high school.

And it just kept being in the back of my head.

I was like, wow, lady thought I can model.

You know, I never really looked at myself like a model.

So anyway, I ended up going to New York.

The lady calls me and this is for a cell Phone's girl like literally called phone Cynthia.

I'm laid in New York is the oldest funk because I gave him my phone number, and she's like, I really think you should come to New York.

Wilhelmina is very interested in you.

Blah blah blah blah.

So when I went to New York City, I can fits my parents to let me go.

I went to New York City to test to do a test shoot, which is basically just take some photos with you know, a New York photographer.

So I went, and of course I was like, oh, I think I was gonna be all made up.

You know, I didn't know what a model was, girl I had.

They basically stripped me down, no wigs, hear.

Anything, and just put like a little struggle bun like, just as natural as possible.

So of course I thought, coming from the South, we didn't even go to the grocery store without fixing ourselves up a little bit.

So I was like, okay, well this is gonna be a mess.

And they loved the photos and I thought I looked crazy, but anyway, and they just kept going, oh my god, you're so beautiful, You're so stunny.

And I was like, the people didn't know.

I'd never heard that before.

So to answer your question, when I started modeling, and then I heard it, you know, a lot after that, But that was the first.

What was what was the first?

What was the biggest modeling?

The cover of Essence, the cover of Essence magazine twice.

Actually, wow, yeah, that was it.

And that was like amazing because I didn't really you know, we didn't have fashion magazines.

But every now and then you know, we didn't have it like in my house or whatever.

We didn't have my mom didn't rebogue and stuff chats at work, like it just wasn't that kind of life.

But every now and then I would get a hold to an Essence or an Ebony and be like, oh my god, and those women.

I would look at that magazine and be like, these women just were so beautiful and they seemed so confident and strong and nice and happy.

And I just didn't even know how I could represent that because I didn't even know who I was.

I was like eighteen years old, so I was just but I would just look at them and it just seemed like so such a reach to be in a magazine.

I was like, wow, Okay, So anyway, so I ended up going on a casting for Essence and it was like for a beauty spread, and I ended up I walk in and I've never seen more beautiful women in my life, Like all these models there their portfolios, and I walk in.

I'm like, gosh, shit, I ain't gonna get this like these I've never even seen girls like this before.

And I go in and I meet with the beauty editor and at the time, the makeup artist was Reggie Wells, May you rest in peace.

He did OPRAH for a long time for many many years, and he used to call everybody Mary.

And I didn't know.

I didn't know what yeah, because I used murder like hey, hey, Mary, come in Mary.

Yeah.

So I walk in and it's my turn to go show my you know, my book, and I'm talking to uh the beauty editor who was Mickey Taylor at the time.

She was there for many many years as the beauty editor.

And Reggie comes up and takes my book.

He was like, mayor, you go, had to get your tee fixed.

And at the time, I had like a little space in my tea and he's like, Mary, you cut.

You got to get your teeth fixed, and you may have to get you some titties or whatever.

And I was like, oh my god.

First of all, first of all, who was married?

Who?

I was like, why is he calling me Mary?

And I've just never had anybody just tit together quick and being like, girl, get the t thing, can get you some titties.

And I was like, oh my god, like got church going girl from Alabama.

I had never tore you up real quick like that ate me right up.

I was like I didn't even know how to respond.

I was like okay, uh, I was like, okay, yeah, thank you sir.

You know whatever.

Anyway, some buy some miracle.

I got the job and it ended up being I did the shoot and they ended up, you know, using one of the beauty shots as the cover, which I wasn't even there for the cover, and I don't think I was there for that, but it ended up being the cover of Essence, which was so I mean, if I didn't do anything else, I couldn't actually stopped modeling after that, because once I was on the cover of Essens, I was like, oh my god, well, honey, I have a ride ribbon, I have a ribbon, I can go to some I can do something else.

Now, how did you get fashion Fair?

Oh?

Fashion Fair?

Oh my god, so fashion Fair?

You know I did?

Actually, how did you even know about that?

Because I don't really talk about that one that much because it was like, really before I really took.

Off, I've seen the things, okay and watched all right, so fashion Fair?

So what I never I used to you?

Do you remember those Fashion Fair runway shows that they would come to different small towns.

It's different cities.

And stuff.

You remember that Fashion Fair.

Was one of the first makeup I ever put on my face.

Yes, yes, same, same.

Did you used to like what was that lipstick color?

I know you probably liked it was like it was like a plump was like one was like an iridescent rasp.

It was my mama loves that.

Damn.

It was a plum.

Yes, like a plum, y'all.

Asked miss Mary.

I did, what's that?

What's her favorite?

Oh that you goes, mama?

What was your favorite Fashion Fair lipstick?

Which one passion?

Passion?

Oh?

No, she now she got it.

Oh my god, I'm not ready if she pulled up that.

Okay, But anyway, Fashion Fear so one of the things that happened when I was in high school, remember.

The Jet Beauty of the Weeks and all that stuff.

So I was like, okay, I had an Ebony magazine and I had a Jet I can't remember somehow they had back then they would have an address where you can mail your photo.

So I was like, you know what, I'm just going to see, like, I love all of this.

I love these beautiful, confident women.

So I melted my photo and I actually got a call from them saying, hey, you know, we're whatever in Chicago, we're interested in you come into audition, and I was like, oh my god.

And again like coming from like a small town in the South, like I'm actually like what you were probably knows like Huntsville.

I'll usually just say Huntsville, but I'm really where I really grew up is come to your Alabama.

Oh that's deed, that's like Florence muscle shows.

Yeah, that's in that country country like matter of fact, Helen Keller.

It was the birth place of Helen kell.

Oh yeah, her little house is still right there.

It's like a tourist thing.

But anyway, anyway, Chile, So I had I didn't have that kind of confidence, you know how like you walk in like you I don't have that like ts Madison conference, like when you walk in.

I mean I was like, okay, I'm cool and whatever, but like I didn't walk in and just soak all the air out the room.

Girl.

I like, hey, y'all, I know, but that's like a different kind of confidence.

And I don't know, like when did you get that confidence like that, because like that you just don't get that confidence.

I'm gonna tell you, I tell people.

This It's like when I used to I'm gonna give you the real answer.

Okay, when I used to walk the streets.

Okay, when I used to walk the streets and there was so many was competitive, I guess, so you had to.

It was so many that was so.

Much more pretty.

It's so much more, so much more passable, so much more fire, and so much more sexy.

And they all would be losing their apartments, they would be losing their cars, they would be getting evicted.

They would be and I was like, what, I'm over here looking at this bitch, like this bitch is the baddest bitch walking, and this bitch is really trash underneath all that.

Oh girl, please, And so when men would come up roll up on me, I would be like they would be like, oh you.

I was like, uy, that whole it's tied, and bro, you got somebody.

Oh my god.

So I never see That's why I could.

Stand in with any beauty, with the beauty of the week, the beauty of the year, the GQ magazine or whatever is whatever, the most beautiful woman, the most beautiful trans woman, and feel absolutely nothing and still.

Be like give her her things because I don't know what's going on under.

The layer of that, right right, I know what I do right right?

I knew that obviously you hose gett put out be cause y'all can't something no dig.

Using y'all car on, y'all, y'all ain't doing your job because obviously you would be getting.

Some money, you would be managing your money better.

Girl.

Well, I was gonna say, clearly, you just were exuded more confidence to even get to even get chosen.

I guess I was confident.

I was confidence, yeah, Cynthia, because I was.

You were somebody you had no choice.

But I didn't lose my apartment, right, you were trying to survive.

I ain't lose my apartment.

I ain't losing my car, I ain't lose my stuff.

And I'm watching these girls struggle, so that so their struggles as beautiful as they were boosting my confidence.

But that won't happened in the ugly all right, possibly I would possibly never be losing my part.

Right, you're sitting on triple D titties and I have nothing, Please.

Babe, come on, baby, So what confidence is key?

That's what it is.

You weren't confident, and I was confident.

But I wasn't bad bitch, confident like you know, like and where I came from, I was.

I wasn't not confident.

I had, you know, high self esteem.

But if you if you're put in the room with the Tyer Banks and everybody in New York City and it's between you know, the best of the best to ever do it, You're like, okay, like, I gotta come in I gotta walk into this cast in a different kind of way.

I gotta walk in here like I belong.

I gotta walk in here like I'm her, and I gotta walk in here like forget all these other supermodels in here.

Y'all want to work with me today.

And that's what I had to learn.

But you were her, You are her.

I know what I didn't know you did because I was with a lot of other her.

You know why you you know why you didn't know that because you still showed up.

Yeah I did.

You could have left.

Yep, that's true.

You knew that's true.

Yeah, you could have.

You could have left.

You could have You still showed up that you knew you were when you filled out that thing.

He was like, girl, I don't know if I'm gonna get picked bush.

Somebody made like what they see.

It was the inter you that really knew, you knew it.

Yeah, listen, when I'm around other people, I know who I am.

I don't have to make no announcement.

I don't have to whatever I come in the room.

Sometimes I come in the room trying to be but it never works out.

That's not it.

Clearly that ain't it worked out.

You can't even come on the air that you can.

I was on the center my seat, pull it out, my little snack I had brought on a plane and all of a sudden, it's tornado.

First of all, did you ever do your perfume life?

Because I smelled you before you hat man, I did let that first class.

It was.

I was like, I mean, we're like okay.

I was like, I think it's it's because they talked I was.

I was always told I was ugly.

I was not.

I was not first pick I was.

You know this when as much better?

And I survived through all that.

Yes, So that built because you were because in me.

I was the doll.

And I used to be able to say I wish I had this, And this is why people got to know.

Sometimes you wish it for other people's life, and they ship is fucked up.

That's true, that's true.

They shit be fucked up.

You gotta do you got it?

And then people wish for our lives.

And when I tell you, they couldn't mark a day in my shoes because they have no idea what I what my day to day is like?

You don't want to sleep?

Oh you must not want to sleep.

You don't get no sleep?

What's the day to day?

Oh?

My god?

My day and of life with me is work.

Well, first of all my only off day, and I forced myself to be off on Sundays.

I just try not to do any work on Sundays.

So other than that, I usually get up in the mornings around For some reason, my body wakes up at seven.

It used to be eight.

Now I just wake up at seven.

Yeah, get up, wake it up, get some need.

I check my emails.

And it's always everything is urgent, respond you know, time sensitive.

So I do that.

I go.

You know, I'm not a huge breakfast person, to be honest, but I try to just eat a little something because I you know, otherwise I'll go in.

It's like three or four o'clock and I haven't eaten anything yet, but I try to eat a little something.

But for the most part, it's it's mostly work.

It's like, you know, going over my schedule.

Like I literally have a book if I showed you my I have an old school like agenda, like where I actually write everything down.

I'm like one of those people.

I have to be pinned the paper.

I need to open it up and see it in front of me.

I post this everywhere in my house to just remind me of everything that I need to do because I'm very professional and I take my job in my career very seriously because I had to work hard, and I don't want to go back to not like not having all money and not being you know, financially independent and being able to live the life that I that me and God want me to live.

Okay, So anyway, so it's just basically working from seven in the morning to probably like mostly like maybe not at night, to be honest, whether it's like you know, doing content, you know, even putting a post gonna take me bout thirty minutes to make sure I got to get the right caption, gotta get the write song.

You know.

I do a lot of brand partnerships, you know, and all that stuff is work, and you have to be consistent with that stuff.

And as a brand, I take my brand very seriously because I'm able to make money outside of you know, the TV shows that I do, outside of the movies.

My priority right now, My real focus is my acting career.

Come on, but I'm at you know, I'm still growing and learning as an actress.

So I'm not up there where.

And even you know, you even saw like a lot of the you know, well established actors, they just don't get paid that much money.

So you gotta have thirty other households going on at all times.

So I live in fear of not being able to take care of myself, which is another reason why, you know, my health and wellness journey is important to me because I got to be You got to be healthy to work, and you can't call in sick to a TV show.

You know, we're filming Housewives.

We're filming I gotta go to work.

Well, my last stinch is a little bit about housewives.

I want you to close out on that.

Okay, sure, give me all the day.

Well, I can't give you too much, but I just will say this is I have been a part of the Housewives of Atlanta for well over a decade at this point.

I love that I was able to create a space on that show, on the show as a friend, and I love that because there's so many other things I want to do, because I'm the kind of person.

Once I get the T shirt chat I did it, done it, I really want to do so many other things.

And I feel like the thing that I will be most known for, to be honest, hasn't even happened to me yet.

And this is a fifty eight year old woman saying this, Like I really feel like for me that that's going to be bigger than all the stuff that I've done.

Life over till it's over.

It's not over till it's over.

So with that said, I love working on the show as as a friend.

I love staying attached to the fans because, you know, with about the fans and our supporters, I mean, that's, you know, part of our story, Like we without them, we're not celebrities because we got to have fans.

We got to have people that support us and everything that we have going on.

So we don't really have any dirt yet, not just started.

Is the show a gift and a curse.

Oh, that's a great question.

It's a gift and it can be a curse, but I think it's more of a gift.

I think if you have an opportunity to have a platform like that, then you have to decide and be very intentional about how you want to use the platform.

So anything that is not working in your life, if you go on a show like that, is just going to be magnified.

It just is.

And that's okay too, because Lord knows, when I first started.

I started Housewife season three and I didn't know what I was doing.

It was a hot mess.

I watched you get married.

You did watch me get married?

Excuse me, you did watch me get married.

We watched you watch watched divorced.

Yes, you watch me go through money struggles on the show parenting, all the things, all the things.

Do you regret any of it?

Not not a day, not a marriage, not a divorce, none of the shows, none of my relationships, none of my friendships.

It's part of my story.

Do you look back over the show and say over from the years, I can say damn, damn, I did it, or I wish I would have did this one better, you know.

When you're actually living it and is your life.

Like I don't look at my life because I'm the one living it, doesn't is not that sensational to me.

It's not like, oh my god, I can't believe I've been on a show for over a decade.

It's just me.

It's just my life, and I'm always striving to get to the next thing or be better at whatever it is that I'm doing.

So I always see room for I always look at what I could have done better or how I can elevate.

You know.

It's always like a work in progress for me.

But I do look back, you know, I do love.

It feels good to live in my purpose, to do.

To get to do a job that that I enjoy doing for the most part, Like I love you know, I'm finally comfortable in the whole public figure space because I'm actually kind of shy.

I know you never know that, but I.

Can tell, yeah, I am, Like I can be a little socially awkward, like even like you know, if I.

Go somewhere and they'd be like I tot the amiliens at hours, I'm like, you know, like not too much.

Let me just go sit out.

Yeah.

So, but anyway, I love.

I feel incredibly grateful to get to have my life and live my life because I feel bad to even complain about anything because I get to like, like I went from I mean, I've had so many chapters Cynthia the model, This is not started, Cynthia the TV personality, Cynthia the actress.

I mean, I just got my my doctrine degree as a great humanitarian.

Doctor Bailey, Doctor Bailey.

It just keeps going.

But it's all it's just my life.

So it's just like you.

It's you look at yourself and you just see you.

I look at myself.

I just see me, and I see like, okay, I'm running to go and get this done and get that done.

It's just not that sensational to me.

But when I step back and look at the life that I could have had, I love the life that that I get to live.

I do one last hard question and then I'm gone.

Uh huh, not a hard one.

The last question ain't supposed to be hard.

Why didn't you marry Leon?

Oh my god, wow, I've never been asked that question before.

Okay, So, so I did not marry Leon because I felt like at the time.

You know, he's an artist, I'm an artist.

He's a creative.

I'm a creative.

He's a pisces.

I'm a pissy.

Oh lord, we are literally the same people in so many ways.

And I just felt like Leon as an artist for who he is, and he's a true artist.

Okay, that man was born to be an actor, that is what he does, and a singer.

I felt like he needed the type of partner that could really nurture that, Like he needed someone to let him be the artist.

Because it's tricky when you got two artists and everybody's going for the same thing.

I mean, I've seen it be done, but I felt like I wouldn't be able to fully just nurture his talent and you know, the things that he needed from a partner because I will still figure it out what I was doing, and I knew that it would probably be something in entertainment for sure, and he's entertained in entertainment.

So I needed a partner that maybe was not so much, you know, doing the same things that I was doing.

So I just needed the balance of like, Okay, you are doing this and I'm in this space.

So I just felt like and I was.

I was younger.

You know.

We have our beautiful daughter, Noel together, who's twenty five now, and I just yeah, she's twenty five now, and I didn't want to be like, oh, you know, I'm pregnant, let's get married.

But I do felt like I knew I was going to meet Leon and I knew we were gonna connect.

And this is just from seeing him in movies, Like I would literally be like, I'm going to meet him one day and.

I'm like, hey, he's baby.

I mean, well, I knew that was gonna be a connection, I'm telling you.

And from the first time I met that man, we locked eyes and I was like I knew it.

I just I don't even know what that's called, but I.

Knew it meant that he was my person.

Yeah, but I think we were put together to have Noel.

Noel is his one and only.

She's my one and only, and I think we were put together to have Noel for Robinson.

And we had We had a good time.

We had a beautiful time.

Like I was like when I was with Leon, you know, that was like the first time I was really in love and it was just like living out this thing.

And he was an actor and were going to premieres.

I was a model.

We just like the modeled actor.

I mean, it was a It was a beautiful love story.

It really really was.

And I still love lyon He's like friends.

I've watched how y'all interact.

I've been watching you grow up.

Yeah.

Yeah, a lot of love and respect for him.

I just didn't feel like at that time, you know, and I said, don't feel like I'm his person in that way.

I've always felt like I was going to be in his life.

He was.

I was gonna be in Leon's life.

You knew he was.

I'm gonna have his baby, and that's gonna be my friend.

I didn't know about the baby then, but I knew I was gonna be in the man.

I knew I was gonna be in this life.

And they wore were gonna have sex, some good sex.

Now, there was no question about that.

And I didn't know I was gonna get pregnant had the man baby, but I knew it was gonna go down.

And from that I knew that.

So when I tell you, I love you and I cannot wait to see whatever God has for you, and I can't wait to do things with you, because we're gonna do some stuff together, honey watching.

Yeah, Okay, we gotta do that.

I'm gonna go, I'm gonna get down and.

Then I want to I want to help support you the starter houses.

That's amazing.

Yeah, listen, we got some good news about expanding it.

Okay, we'll talk.

Yeah, let me come and talk to the ladies.

Let me like do whatever I can be Absolutely, I have skincare, have my glow somebody.

I can have somebody come up and give him face a minute.

Okay, soo, so closing out, Cynthia, tell us all the stuff you got.

Okay, we know what to get from you, all right.

So I also just started a skincare line with my partner and friend.

Okay, we do Okay, Okay.

We talked about tequila.

Okay, the Commissary of tequila that is worldwide.

It it's all over the place.

You can guys, you guys can get it anywhere.

It's amazing tequila.

If you like tequila, you will love to I'm sorry and I can't wait.

I need to have a shot with you have this interview.

But yeah, if y'all got some shot glasses around, so I have that and then I also started a skincare line with my longtime friend of over twenty five years, Dana Hill.

It's called it's called Globe sim we have two products.

We have a miracle skinned oil elixir and it's amazing.

I'm going to get you some of that and a moisturizer.

We want to start with just two products, get that out there.

I was like, you know, I follow a lot of.

Boss women entrepreneurs, and I kind of like took a page from you know, Anastasia with the eyebrow and she started with just eyebrow thing, and we all she sold us on those brows.

And then then she started rolling out of the products.

So the advice, like, you didn't ask me to do this, but the advice I'd gift to anyone who's starting the business is to start small, like get your one thing out there and make sure people can't live without it, and then you expand.

So I have that, and then.

Oh, I have a suit line.

Almost wore today.

I am doing a suit line with Jovanni.

Yes, I wear a lot of their dresses.

If you see me in a gown is more than likely Jovanni.

So we're doing a partnership together where I'm doing suits with them.

I love a good power suit.

Well, do I need some of the for the Emmys?

Do they have a dress?

Oh yes, Oh my god.

I will definitely hook you up.

Like seriously, I'm not even playing with you when you need it.

Well, the September fourteenth is the Emmys.

Okay, yes, a congratulations.

Well that's drag Race, honey.

Yes, you know I'm at Rue Paul.

Years ago when she first started, we did a photo shoot with This is one of my modeling stories with David la Chappelle, and he was like telling me, like, you know, Ru Paul is coming in, and I think she was from here.

I want to say she came from Atlanta.

Now, don't get me a line, but I feel like it was from Atlanta.

And we ended up doing an editorial together.

And what I remember about her that power and that confidence.

Like she walked in and I was like, and she happened makeup on.

She walked in and she brought all her stuff and this was way back then.

She did her own makeup and when she came out, she had got her wig on, and we were like, we were shooting for this Japanese magazine and it was like, I just told her, reminder her about this.

But anyway, long.

Story short, girl, I've lived.

At some point, I want to do a book.

What would you call out of Stories?

Oh?

What would I call it?

Oh?

Now, what are you going to call it?

What am I going?

Yes, that's right, manifested manifestation.

I'm going to call it.

What should I call it?

CB?

One on one, C B one on one.

It's it's a books something we're spiritual.

Oh, because I'm really like, we didn't get into my spiritual journey part of the conversation.

You want it to well, come back an other time.

I think we'd have ran out of time, have we?

I know, we definitely been.

We talked about wait for thirty minutes and I got to get your address from Joe Vine.

Shall we be on the phone and top of it?

But we all come up with the name.

Yeah, and but that that's like the final final, literally the final chapter is.

I would love to just tell my story because I think it's you know, I always want to be in a space of inspiration and motivation for girls, women who didn't know, didn't know they were her, didn't.

Know I didn't know I was her?

Oh my God, I love that.

I didn't know I was her.

See look at that.

I love it.

I didn't know I was her because I didn't.

I honestly didn't know.

And then some days I wake up if now I'm like, am I ever heard that that's.

The name of your book?

Yeah?

I did, Cynthia Bailey.

I didn't know I was her.

I didn't know I was her.

I don't want none of it.

You'll get to can do the fore word for it.

Yes, because I didn't know I was her either, Listen, because I wasn't him.

Listen.

You know so many people that had risen to fame.

I bet they didn't know they were Boom, there you go.

I didn't know it was y'all gonna take my I love yourself.

Cynthia, I love you.

Come on out to the house before you get too to before you get too small.

Let my mama cook you something and give you a spood for of that purple lipstick that she got.

That purple passion, that passion, that passion, it's passion, something from passion.

I'm look at it so as because I knew exactly I know the lipstick that you're talking about.

I love you.

Make sure to tune in to the Housewives.

Of Atlanta Hunter when it comes on season seventeen.

Caesus seventeen.

God damn it, Cynthia Bailey.

Y'all put, y'all have the thank you, thank you, thank you, I love your love you all right, okay, bye bye.

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