Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.

I'm Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Matt Paul pops the question in Palm Cove Sky, Wheatley's public falling out with her business partner Tammy hambro throws shade at her baby daddy's and Simone Anderson's very close relationship with her mother in law.

But first, there's already trouble in Paradise between Veruca Salt and her new husband.

I mean, I can't say I'm completely shocked about this update.

The pair got married after knowing each other for fourteen days in Vegas, so I feel like it was only a matter of time before we started seeing cracks in this relationship.

Well, he so knew that.

As followers, we don't even know his name.

He goes by the handle Digy Premium, so we are going to refer to him as Digi when we talk about him.

Poor guy.

I think he just needs to put his name out there for once and for all so we know what to call him.

Well, a lot of people must have gone on to follow him, because people have been sending in the fact that he is making a plea to Varuka's followers to pass on a message to her.

So it turns out that Veruka has already blocked him.

So he wrote on his Instagram stories, y'all tell Varuka unblock me and I'm sorry, with two sad faces and a broken heart emoji.

He added go comment on her posts, so it sounds like he's done something.

Aside from the fact that this would obviously be upsetting it for Vruka, the silver lining is this is fantastic TikTok content for her.

I mean, all of the videos of her talking about her wedding have gone completely viral.

They have millions of views, and everyone was saying, oh my gosh, we can't wait for you to drop the story of when it all goes tits up.

Well, it kind of makes Tammy hamber On Matzkowski's marriage not look so bad.

I mean, they were together for at least what four or five months?

I think it was seven in the end.

That seems to be the magical number.

Wasn't that how long Olivia Rodgers and Justin McKeon were together for.

I think people probably think, okay, if I make it to six months.

It doesn't look as bad if I call things off.

God, that's a sad milestone to be holding out to hit.

I just hope that whatever has happened, Varuka tells us very shortly she will.

I think this will be an evolving story which we'll be keeping our listeners across.

Hi, guys, I'm Matt Paul, former Ironman Champion.

Former iron Man Matt Paul has popped the question to Analie oatweigh Whilst on a family vacation to Palm Cove.

Matt got down on one knee on a Palm Line beach alongside their six month old son, Parker, and his three year old daughter Posey, who he shares with his ex fiance, Tammy hembro God, those pool jeans are strong.

Posey and Parker literally look like twins.

They are so adorable they are.

And I think it's a really nice touch that he proposed in front of their two kids.

Not to compare engagements, but he actually did the same thing when he proposed to Tammy Hembro.

So that took place on a boat and he had her two kids, Wolf and Saskia there, and I think Wolf held up a little sign.

They both did actually, if you want to be really specific.

Now, they shared the announcement on Instagram and Matt wrote, let's plan a wedding, missus Paul.

I found that interesting because obviously he put up the post and it was one of those collaborative posts, but it seemed like he was very much driving the social media around it.

Well, probably because he's got the bigger following.

For those who don't know, Annalise actually works as a nurse and she subsequently has got a bit of a following off the back of Matt Paul and his connection with Tammy Hembro.

I suppose essentially, I mean to be fair in Matt Paul's own right, he is an iron man, but I think he's had a lot more eyes on him since his connection with Tammy.

Now we've got to get into the ring, because it was quite a unique looking ring.

It was made by jeweler Son del Dole, which is a bestoke studio in New South Wales.

I am going to do my best to describe this ring.

I'm not one hundred percent sure what the actual stone is because diamond well, I wasn't sure.

I thought maybe it could have been a different stone.

Whatever it is, It is the shape of a pair and it's flipped on the side and it is then surrounded by a chunky gold band.

It's difficult not to talk about this ring without comparing it to the one Matt gave Tammy Hembro and I feel bad comparing them, but I mean, when you do propose to Australia's biggest influencer, that moment is going to be burnt in a lot of people's minds.

And all I could think about was, oh, I preferred Tammy's ring, like she had this beautiful, massive oval diamond surrounded by smaller diamonds, so that a dream engagement ring.

I think.

Yeah.

The unfortunate thing is her engagement ring from Matt Paul was probably one of my favorite influencer rings ever.

That being said, this ring that he created for Annalise was very sentimental and I think that it was her dream ring.

Now underneath the post, the jeweler congratulated the couple and said that it was an honor to craft her ring, and Matt replied reiterating that it was Analise's dream ring and that inside the ring are both Posey and Parker's birthstones, which is a very special touch, and I think it's particularly sweet to see the relationship that Analise has with Posey.

Obviously she sees her as her own daughter.

Now, the ring divided opinions on social media.

One person went as far as to say it was a complete disappointment, which I thought was pretty harsh, Like, just have your thoughts privately, but you don't have to voice them on the posts.

Yeah.

Well, one of Analisa's friends waiting in the comment section, and they revealed that, as you said, Kate, Analise is actually a nurse and because the ring is super flat, it means that she can wear it during her shifts.

She also added that Matt obviously took that into consideration when he got it custom made for her.

I mean that makes a lot of sense because you see these women like Molly May and Tammy Hembro walking around with these absolute massive rocks on their fingers, and I always think how practical really is that.

I mean, I often take off my jewelry.

I think I just get like a sensory overload of having jewelry on.

I actually remember my hairdresser saying to me, don't get a ring that has diamonds around the band.

Because you're just going to get pooh stuck on it when you have a child from changing appies.

I actually did op for a wedding band with diamonds around it, but I actually haven't fallen into that problem yet.

Yeah, both my wedding bed and engagement ring have that style of diamonds around the band and I haven't had any issues.

But again, I often don't wear them when I'm changing.

Now, as you would expect, the comment section absolutely blew up under Matt Paul's post with a lot of well wishes.

The most notable was Tammy Hambro's ex husband Matt Zakowski, who wrote, congratulation guys, so happy for you both now.

Matt Paul actually responded to this comment, writing thanks mate.

So what about Tammy, because there's been a lot of speculation that there's bad blood between them, No, so I searched his likes.

She did not like the post.

To my knowledge, she has not commented on it.

I cannot see a comment from her, and this has sparked further speculation that there is growing bad blood between Tammy and Matt, because he was caught out liking a parody video which mocked Tammy for filming herself crying following her divorce.

I definitely think something is going on there.

We're going to dive a little bit deeper into that later in this episode.

Now, another interesting element of this proposal that I want to finish on is the fact that this took place on what appeared to be a paid trip to Port Douglas and Palm Cove, or at least a gifted trip, because in the lead up to this proposal, Matt was posting all about his stay.

Now he tagged his resort, which surprisingly wasn't actually my favorite place on Earth, the Grand Mirage Sheraton, which we've seen a lot of influences recently, staying out.

Maybe he didn't want to propose there because Tammy's other ex and baby daddy Rhyese Hawkins proposed to his wife, former wife now London go in there, so maybe he's like, I've got to do it somewhere else.

Did they actually ever get married or were they just fiance's Well, it was around COVID and all of a sudden restarted referring to London as his wife.

Oh that's right, And there was a bit of speculation that they got married in a small ceremony and we're going to do a big thing later on, but then that never happened.

They broke up.

Okay, well for anyone who stays important Douglas.

The place that Matt and an Alas were actually staying is the Pullman.

It looks like a much more family friendly resort now he tagged them in the post.

I'm not actually sure if they gave him a trip for free, because there was no sort of paid partnership tools being used, but he did appear to have a paid partnership with a rental car company over there, so I wonder how stoked those companies would have been that he ended up popping the question over there, because can you imagine the engagement on his page right now?

Yes, win win for everyone.

Really, Okay, I am here to spill the tea.

Sky Wheatley and her business partner Tory Jong appear to have rekindled their friendship.

The former besties who run Good People Apparel dramatically unfollowed each other last month.

Now, the timing of this bust up was particularly tough for Sky because she had just announced her breakup with her baby daddy Lockie War.

She actually ended up backtracking a couple of weeks later, though, saying that she and Locke plan to work through things when they're not so busy with their house renovations, and she explained on her podcast that one of the reasons for this backflip was because she was in the midst of a friendship breakdown and couldn't mentally go through both at the same time.

Now fast forward a couple of weeks and Sky and Tory have refollowed each other.

Now the refollow comes at an interesting time because Tory has just announced to her forty two thousand followers on TikTok that she's split from her partner of ten years.

So she announced that she's officially single and said that things have been up and down with her partner since March.

Now, Tory has four kids, three of which she shares with this partner, and she said that she has been caring for her kids ninety nine percent of the time while her partner, who is a fi FO workie, is away, and she admitted that his job is half the reason for the split because he is so absent and she always feels alone.

It's quite interesting because, similar to Sky Unlockee, Tory said that she is still living in the same house as her ex as they figure out what they're going to Well, I suppose that's when he's there.

Yeah, well, she said that she's been living out of a suitcase, so when he does come back from work, she goes and stays with a friend.

I think this situation in the early days of a breakup when kids are involved is probably quite common.

It's just not something that we hear a lot of people talk about.

Yeah, well, I really feel for Toy because she said that she's shit scared about what she's going to do financially because she is primary care of her four kids and the only really money that she has coming in is through her small business which she owns with Sky.

So you know, maybe this is also why they've had to get over their fight and become friends so they can try and make as much money from this business as they can, or it might have been the catalyst for the fight, because when you own a business, if someone is personally going through financial stress, they're going to be obviously wanting to crack down and try and make the business as successful as possible, where a Sky appears to also have a lot on her plate with their renovations and everything that's going on with Lockie.

Well, I just think it's quite clear that Sky and Tory have reconnected over the fact that they now find themselves in the same situation with their relationships.

They've both split with their long term partners who they share kids with.

That would be very tough and it would be helpful to have someone going through the same thing now.

Underneath Tory's announcement, a follower wrote, you and Sky can move in together now.

Another follower responded under that comment, saying I don't think that they're friends anymore.

I saw somewhere and Tory responded saying Sky and I are fine guys.

As much as it sounds like a great idea to move in with your best friend, considering their friendship is sort of touch and go at the moment, I don't think it's a good idea that they join forces at this stage.

Learn from my cock apps for surgery pecking and only teck the essentials.

Simone Anderson has shared the results of a recent breast augmentation surgery, posting to where four hundred and thirty thousand followers.

The New Zealand Influencers shared a carousel of faceless images of her new boobs.

This popped up on my newsfeed and it gave me quite a jump, Scout, I was not expecting it that day.

Well, she did abide by Instagram's rules, so her nipples were covered with surgical tape.

Want to put that out there now for those who aren't across Simone's content.

She gained a massive following after documenting her weight loss journey and her subsequent skin revision and removal surgery.

So alongside the images of her boobs, the thirty four year old wrote, holy tits, I can't believe their mind.

I never thought my figure could look like this after losing nearly one hundred kilograms.

I realized almost nine and a half years ago, after my first mummy makeover, that my loose skin couldn't be fully addressed in one go, something no amount of exercise or training would have been able to fix.

I wanted to wait until I was done having children and had built some strength back before undergoing such a massive surgery again.

And let me tell you it was so worth the weight.

She finished the post by outlining the size of the breast implants and also a snippet of what her husband, Trent te so he said that it was the best money he's ever spent, and he hasn't even seen them in real life yet.

I don't know if we needed that added there.

I don't want to hear that.

I don't really like that or the use of the word mummy makeover in saying that.

I think it is good that she's been transparent about the surgeries that she's had following this dramatic weight loss, because there would be a lot of people that may be in her position and be thinking, oh, why has my skin not bounced back.

So I'm glad that she's saying, oh, well, you know, I've had to do all of these things in order to look like this.

However, calling it a mummy makeover, it's like, well, that infers that all mums after having kids need this type of surgery.

Yeah.

I don't really like the term mummy makeover because I feel like there's almost this connotation that you have to fix yourself after having a child.

Yeah, it definitely plays into bounce back culture in this sense of you have to revert yourself back to what you were like before, be that getting a new haircut or makeup or surgery.

Now, simone must have really read my mind, because when I saw these photos go up on Instagram, I thought, oh God, what do the people that know her thing?

Like, what does her mother in law think?

And she said, am I worried about my mother in law seeing my boobies online?

She was one of the first people I sent a photo of them too, So no, Lo, how do you feel about that?

If you were getting breast in plants, would you feel comfortable to send your mother in law a photo of them?

I think the scenario is a little bit more layered because it was reconstructive surgery after this dramatic weight loss.

It wasn't just like, oh, I want bigger boobs.

It was sort of restoring what her body was like before she put on the weight and had the excess skin.

Still, I don't know if I'd be sending a photo to my mother in law.

I could most see sending you guys a photo, but I'd still find that weird.

I mean, a couple of my friends have got breast in plants and one friend was open to sending me a snapchat of what they looked like.

And I think it's perhaps because they're new and they don't quite feel like yours yet.

I mean, It just depends how open you are about sharing photos of your body.

I think the weird thing is the whole in law thing.

It seems a bit taboo to show your mother in law your new boobs, particularly when your husband's sending these texts, oggling them and being not her best money've ever spent.

Like all good love stories, it started on a bus.

There were love hearts sort of popping in the sky.

I think I suddenly slipped off my chair.

It came out of no way.

You were just upright, and then sudden you were some hours off.

Olivia Rogers has revealed she's moving in with her boyfriend of two years, Hugo Braki.

The former Miss Universe Australia winner, said she's excited for this next chapter and referred to the business consultant as the love of her life.

Kate, when we spoke about these two a couple of weeks ago, we said we were on engagement watch.

I think that has just intensified.

I am predicting an engagement in the next couple of weeks.

I want to see Olivia in her bridal era again, and I'm sure there's a lot of brands who would also like to see her in that because when she was getting married, I literally wanted everything she had.

I mean I didn't quite have the budget direct with what she had, but yeah, even though the wedding didn't work, I used it as a little bit of wedding in spo myself.

In this post, Olivia seemed quite emotional about the fact that she was leaving this apartment because it had become her safe haven after her divorce, because she quickly had to sell her the home that she shared with her ex husband Justin McKean after their split, and she actually documented the whole thing, which was quite interesting at the time.

So she wrote, I moved in here three years ago during one of the hardest chapters of my life, going through a divorce and trying to find my feet on my own.

This little apartment became my safe place where I healed, rebuilt, and found myself again.

Now I'm leaving to move in with the love of my life, forever grateful for the chapter I had in this place, and beyond excited for the next one.

Is it wrong that I'm really nosy to see what Hugo's house or apartment looks like?

Why am I imagining something quite lux well?

Why is it necessarily that she's moving into his place, Like maybe they've got one together.

Yeah, that's a good point.

For some reason, I just assumed that she was shacking up with him in his old place.

See, I think that they're probably going to get a place together, because it's always awkward moving into someone's house or apartment when they've had it by themselves for quite a number of years.

It feels like their space, whereas you want a space, it's yours.

Well.

Actually, reflecting on the interview that she did with Hugo a couple of weeks ago on her old podcast, she said that he lived with a roommate who didn't they nickname him Spike from notting Hill, Yeah, because they were comparing their relationship to that of Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts in that movie, you know, the celebrity and the lowly book shop owner.

Like I'm not trying to like call anyone out, but yeah, it's just I feel like I've always had to sort of do everything, like Yeah.

Tammy Hembro has thrown shade at her baby daddy's, declaring she has always felt like a single mum.

Appearing on the debut episode of her sister Emily's podcast.

Tammy didn't hold back when asked about the struggles of motherhood.

Kate.

Yeah, I don't think her former fiance Matt Paul will be too pleased Reees Hawkins either, But I think he's used to being called out about his parenting since moving to Balley.

But it's a different case for Matt Paul because he's always gotten a bit of a good guy edit often.

I think it's in contrast to Reese.

Yeah.

Well, to be fair to Matt, he does have split custody of their daughter, Posey, and he very much appears to be in her life.

He posts a lot of content about her That makes a big difference, and from the outside looking in, it seemed like the two on pretty good terms.

That was until Tammy announced her divorce from Matt Szakowski and crack started appearing.

Because it seems like Matt Paul has cided with Matt Sakowski.

There's been a few Instagram comments alluding to it, not to mention Matt and his partner an Alise liking that parody video that you touched on earlier in this podcast.

Yeah, the two Matt's budding relationship seems really odd to me.

It's kind of like they both caught up to bitch about their ex.

That's sort of the vibes of what's going on here now.

Tammy's tone towards Matt has definitely changed publicly.

While discussing the challenges of motherhood on this podcast, Tammy revealed that she always felt like a single mum even when she was in a relationship with her kids' father's Let's have a listen to what she said.

I still remembers you to the office with me.

I feel like, even in like my like past relationships, I've sort of always felt like a single mom.

Like I feel like I never really had a partner that I felt actually helped me in that sense, as like, you know, like a co parent now.

She went on to say that she wasn't trying to call anyone out, but she feels like she's always had to do everything.

I felt so sorry for her when I heard this, because I just can't even comprehend one being a mom at that age, like she was only nineteen when she had her first child, and having to navigate all of these breakups and holding it together for these young kids.

It's just incredible.

What she's gone through.

Yeah.

Well, Amy actually revealed after Tammy's breakup presumer with Reheese Hawkins that she moved in with her to help with a young Wolf and Saskia.

The other interesting part of this episode was when they discussed whether they would let their kids have social media or not.

Emily seemed more passionate than the others about it.

She said that she loves the new social media band that's coming into effect for kids under sixteen, and they're under no circumstance would she allow her kids to have it.

You know, when someone's really passionate about something.

It felt like Amy and Tammy couldn't really disagree, so they said, yeah, they wouldn't let their kids have social media, which I was kind of thinking, well, what's the difference because you put them on your own social media platforms.

Well, it was weird because Tammy said that she wouldn't, But then she admitted that Wolf actually wants to start up his own YouTube channel.

Let's have a listen to what she said.

Wolf is like begging me for to start a YouTube channel.

He'd actually, I'm want to be like yeah, sure, like play with toys on the I don't even know they filled me with their iPad.

I swear he like move on that he's like uploading.

What's his use?

Do you know?

No, he definitely does, doesn't but he does just like vlog on his iPad around the house, like not to low key.

He would actually be really good, He actually would.

He's such a character.

Do we reckon he does have a secret YouTube channel somewhere, because if he does, I'm sure a lot of media publications would love to get their hands on the content he's putting out there about his mom.

No, I mean us included, We would very much like to see that content.

It was pretty funny because Tammy and Emily said that their kids love watching their vlogs.

I mean I remember growing up and loving watching old family videos.

I suppose it's the same thing, except millions of people don't see it.

Well.

Sarah's Day said her son Fox loves watching his own birth vlog, so it'd be pretty cool.

It would be really cool, I mean, just not everyone seeing it.

Like if if your parents back in the day actually filmed all the lead up to your birth, if you could watch that privately, it would be great.

But I don't think i'd want to out there for everyone to see.

What did you think about this first episode of Emily's podcast.

Look, I don't want to be mean, but I think the two questions that we covered really saved the whole episode because it was a bit of a Snoresville Otherwise.

I just felt like Nova gave Emily a bunch of really basic motherhood questions and they were trying to be really peacy about it all.

See.

I actually quite enjoyed it because I don't normally hear Tammy and her sisters talking about motherhood, and at the moment it's a bit of my Roman Empire.

I love hearing about how people, particularly people in the public eye and people who run their own businesses, are coping having children.

So I kind of related to it as much as I could.

I just found it a little bit boring.

I mean, I have heard Tammy interviewed quite a lot.

I just didn't feel like they gave heaps like I think they warmed up.

But I'm looking forward to part two because I think there's going to be room for redemption.

It sounds like it's going to be a lot more interesting because Emily said they're going to go deep on topics they haven't discussed online before, including heartbreak, grieving and loss.

So I'm expecting big things, but in.

All honesty, I have been struggling.

Saffron Barker has admitted her move to Dubai has put pressure on her relationship with her boyfriend Josh Milne.

The couple made the move from the UK to Dubai just eight months into their relationship.

Now, for some background, Josh is a twenty three year old Scottish model who lived in Dubai it during his teenage years.

When he and Saffron first got together, he moved so quickly into her mansion in bright and everyone was like getting whiplashed from the whole thing.

And he seemed to really integrate himself into her life with her family.

Yeah, I was like Saffron's mum Wendy is going to love him because he is all about Saffron and their family.

It's quite clear that's what they've been looking for, because Saffron is the type of person who on her podcast spoke about how the fact that if you're a girl, your boyfriend should come and spend Christmas Day with you and your family.

They shouldn't agree with it.

No, I think that you have to see both families.

Oh, I'm just joking.

I mean as you say, Okay.

Saffron is incredibly family orientated.

She has built this mega mansion at Brighton, which is just down the road from her parents.

She also lives very close to her two brothers and their partners, who also live in the same suburb.

In fact, her sister in law recently just moved back to Brighton because they started a business together, so a pajama brand.

So she would have been absolutely spewing to find out that Saffron was moving to the Middle East.

Yeah, so this move really shocked everyone, including her followers.

Saffron has always spoken about wanting to pursue an acting career, which meant she would live part time in la and part time in the UK, but she never mentioned the prospect of moving to the Middle East.

And when Saffron announced the move to her followers, she explained that Josh had had to slot himself into her life and move into her house and it was time for them to move somewhere where they were on more of an even playing field.

However, it became quite apparent early on that moving to Dubai was actually Josh's dream, because as you touched on Kate.

He lived there as a teenager, and we later found out in Saffron's blogs, so his dad actually still lives there, as well as a lot of his friends from childhood who they've subsequently been hanging out with.

So it doesn't really seem to be this even playing field.

It seems like Saffron is now having to thlot herself into his life, which seems quite established in Dubai.

Yeah, and it seems like it's starting to cause a bit of friction because in Saffron's recent YouTube video, she opened up about how she was coping with the move, so she titled the video, I have been struggling lately.

Let's take a listen to some of what she said.

But in all honesty, I have been struggling because I just somebody who honestly.

Can't survive without routine.

Like I have to have a routine and I have to be product to you, but I have to be doing things, and if I'm not, that's just really stressful.

It sounds ridiculous.

But even like when I go and do like things that you should just enjoy and be in the moment, all I'm constantly doing is thinking about the next thing.

And I think that's something go definitely duty to work on.

You know, if Josh and I are on holiday, we're laying around the beach, all I'm thinking about is how I want to be working, which I know is like a little bit weird because my mind just honestly doesn't switch off and I definitely do need to learn to teach myself that and learn to have balance.

But yeah, where we just haven't had like furniture, and we've been moving around.

Even though we've been in this place now for maybe over a month.

We've had like people come and stay with us, and I've been traveling a lot, and it's still just we still just hadn't like got.

Ourselves into a routine.

And let me tell you, we're not there.

We are so far from it.

And it's definitely been putting like way more pressure on our relationship as well, because you know, like neither of us have really been living like a reality, if that makes sense, because we've kind of just been like here, there and everywhere.

And although moving to device is probably one of the easiest places you can move to, it's still obviously a long process and there's lots you've got to do, and you know, finding your feet and stuff like that, and just meeting new people and not having your family and friends here like.

It just yeah, it's just a whole different experience.

I was really surprised to hear her admit the told that this move has actually put on their relationship, in saying that it's not surprising at all.

Even if you have the strongest relationship, if you're living in a different country with one person you've only known for a couple of months, and you're in this young relationship, there are always going to be arguments.

You don't have any outside source to speak to or complain or vent to.

I found it interesting that she referenced that they're not currently living a normal life, like living the reality that most people do, and that's a problem because you would think for a lot of couples that if you got to go traveling all the time and you got to party and eat whatever you want and have family staying over and friends staying over, that that would be like a honeymoon period for most couples.

But she's saying that she's craving the stability that they used to have at Brighton.

But to me, what she's craving is having her family there.

I also think it has a lot to do with her career though, because she has been incredibly career focused ever since she started her channel as a teenager, and as we touched on in the past couple of years, she has set herself some pretty lofty goals when it comes to acting, and it seems like this move to Dubai has meant that she hasn't been able to focus on it, and maybe there's a bit of resentment creeping in.

It seems like this move to Dubai is all about Josh and what he wants to do, and maybe some modeling opportunities around there.

I also think for her, she's very into fitness, and she said that she's finding that they are falling into bad habits, so her boyfriend Josh doesn't like to get up early in the morning where she likes to do a lot of early morning exercise classes.

I mean, when you move in with someone, you truly find out their bad habits and maybe the fact that you're potentially not on the same page now.

Some of Saffron's followers weighed in on the comment section of the YouTube.

One user wrote, I feel you are so out of your comfort zone in Dubai.

Sometimes that's not a bad thing, but I can't help think you need to go back to the UK.

I'm worried about Saffron.

She is one of my favorite influences, and I couldn't help but feel like she just looked really sad in her YouTube video.

There was this sadness in her eyes that I haven't seen before.

Is it a bit of a cry for help or sort of dropping hints that she will be moving back soon to the UK.

The sad thing is I actually really like her and Josh together as a couple.

They compliment each other really well.

I think it's just clear that they're both very young and potentially just a bit selfish.

I think anyone's selfish at that age.

Yeah.

But do we think that she's going to be back in the UK long term soon?

I don't know.

I really don't know.

I'd like to see her move back and then move back together, but it just seems like they're in a bit of a struggle at the moment.

Well, that is where we're going to leave things today.

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