Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.

I'm Kay Torba and coming up on today's show as she Binds abruptly cancels her podcast tour and Tammy Hembro and the Brownlow Snub.

But first, after seven years together, Sky Wheatley and baby Daddy Lockie war have called it quits.

The former by brother star made the admission during an Instagram live Now so for Sky appeared to be quite intoxicated throughout the live.

Yeah, it seemed like she had had quite a bit to drink when she jumped on the live.

She is currently holidaying at an Airbnb on the Sunshine Coast with her two kids, Forest and Bear, and Lockie has been notably absent from the trip now.

For weeks, speculation has been growing that Sky and Locke are no longer together, but nothing had been confirmed until now.

And these sort of breakup rumors have plagued the couple for years now.

Often they'll go often Lockie will be mia from Sky's socials and then appear again, and they don't really discuss what's happened.

I mean they sort of touched on the fact that they.

Went on a break a while ago.

I think a lot of the speculation also comes from the fact that they're very honest about their relationship.

They air a.

Lot of their arguments which they've been having through their renovation process of their house, which has been going on for a very long time now.

Now.

Sky confirmed the split during this live, and she responded to a follower who asked if Locke had cheated on her.

She said, I don't know, maybe now.

Finally enough, it was actually her sister, Kayla, who went into bat for Locke in the comment section, saying, from a sister's point of view, looking into their relationship, I don't think Lockie would cheat.

I think we probably have to take Sky's comment with a grain of salt, because, as you mentioned, Sophie, she did appear to be quite intoxicated during the live, so you know, she might just be saying, well, who knows.

Yeah, Well, as soon as I heard this news, all I could think about again was their house, because they've been renovating it for about six years now.

It's this Rundown mansion that they got for a really good price, and they seem to be quite close to finishing it now.

It's this incredible property.

I mean, I've been invested for years now in this process that I'll be really disappointed if they don't finish her well.

Sky confirmed in this live that they're both going to continue with the renovations.

I mean, I don't know how that would work.

They need to get a reality TV crew down their asack.

Yeah, I was going to say, as long as she keeps filming the vlogs and includes Lockie, it should be some entertaining vision.

I think her viewership will go up.

Lockie has also taken a bit of swipe at Sky, so on Tuesday, he uploaded a screenshot of Sky taking part in a TikTok live with two creators called Wise Gentlemen and Ryan J.

Stewart.

The video was captioned Wise Gentlemen and Ryan J.

Stewart chat up Sky, Wheatley, and Lockie captioned the story classic doesn't take long with three laughing face emojis.

Some people think this is his way of confirming the split, but as someone who has followed Locke for quite some time now, I just think it was a joke.

Like I think it's a piss take.

Remember the whole was it sauna and sausages things.

I'm hilarious.

I really hope that if they are broken up that some good comes from it, and he does go a bit rogue on his socials.

And because he was doing that whilst he was saying at his parents' house, his parents seem to be quite wealthy.

I'm a big fan of Lockie.

He's an absolute crag up.

Despite all of the controversy Sky has been involved in, I can't help but have a soft spot for both her and Locke because they are just so entertaining.

The thing that is quite confusing about this breakup is that just two weeks ago, Sky was trying to water down the rumors and avoid answering any questions, so she put up a Q and A, and of course everyone kept inundating her with questions about whether she and Locke were still together.

One follower wrote, but the question everyone wants to ask you won't answer, But I do hope you're okay, and she responded saying, believe it or not, I actually do have a personal life outside of Instagram and some things I do keep to myself.

Gotten better at this with age.

I'm deafly always an oversharer, but some things are better left unsaid, but thank.

You, my love.

I am okay.

Some days I'm not, but that's all part of the journey.

The photo she chose to upload with this answer was a very wholesome shot of her on a swing with one of her sons, and it was taken from behind.

It was sort of a nonchalant photo, but it looked like she was thinking about things.

Well, the picture paints a thousand words, and I think we can read between the lines, and she was saying, Oh, I've been parenting by myself.

Yeah.

Well, presumably she received a lot more questions about the state of their relationship because she finally responded with acute family selfie, and in it she unlockie were pulling funny faces, and she wrote everything you read on the Daily Mail is always one hundred percent true.

They are a very reputable.

Source, especially when it comes to my life with laughing face emojis.

She then pointed out this is sarcasm and continued, I can't imagine how actual famous people deal with all of the online shit that gets written said about them.

It's actually wild.

God, I'm scared for my children's future.

I've been thinking lately, I'm so unsure if I want to keep posting them, but I love sharing my life with you guys.

It's just worrying as a mother.

I hope my online presence doesn't affect my kids.

Yeah, that seems to be a common worry online at the moment.

I think these updates just reflect how turbulent their relationship is, though, because they seem to be a couple that get back together and then break up and get back together again, like it's been happening throughout their whole relationship.

So I wouldn't be surprised if they do get back together.

In a couple of weeks time.

While it was actually a post from her good friend Tory, which got tongues wagging even further because she uploaded a TikTok appearing to throw some shade at Lockie.

So she wrote when you're a girl's girl, So now I've got more beef with her ex than she ever did, and then in the caption she wrote, he really thought he could talk to her crazy, but forgot her besties from the West and I don't let shit slide.

She then hashtagged it break up humor now.

Sky even replied in the comment section, writing that's my girl.

That's not a good sign.

It was quite.

Confusing though, because Torri also jumped on Alive recently and she said, oh oh, Locke and Sky are still together.

So again, as you say, I think it is just painting a picture of how turbulent this relationship really is.

I mean, I want what's best for everyone involved, but I personally hope they get back together.

I mean, I'm still obsessed with that video that they put up of a Mcdonald'smuok Bung at home and they had this massive fight over the sweet and sour source because it wasn't put in the bag and apparently it was like Lockey's fault because he didn't double check.

It's they always forget the sweet and sour source.

I don't know what.

It is with that.

One thing that made me think perhaps they weren't endgame is that we've never had a proposal.

Even though Sky had a sponsorship deal with a ring brand and she kept uploading potential engagement rings.

Lockie has never got down on one knee, and I wonder if he was a bit hesitant to do so.

But he's had two children with her.

I mean, I would say that that sort of bonds them for life.

A lot more than an engageable.

Well, and they've got the house together.

But I mean, it's quite interesting to think that they were only together for a couple of months when I found out she was pregnant with Forest.

Yeah.

Do you remember our other boyfriend beforehand?

Cam?

Oh, he was a douchebag.

Yeah.

I think Lockie was a definite upgrade.

But yeah, I think they've always seemed to clash a bit.

So No, Tammy, who are you taken?

I'm taking my Juty two.

Coach Tammy Hembro was a notable absentee from the Brownlow Red carpet on Monday Night, despite going Instagram official with AFL player Bailey Smith.

Ever since the couple were papped together in August, rumors have been swirling that Australia's biggest influencer would steal the show at footy's night of Nights.

However, days leading into the Brownlow reports emerged that things had cooled off.

Between the pair Gate.

Now, of course, those reports coincided with Bailey's team Geelong getting into the Grand Final.

Reading between the lines, it seems like Bailey has been advised by his footy club to squash the relationship with Tammy for now and focus on football, or at least appear uki squashing things.

And I mean that all makes sense to me.

But what I've found really confusing as a form of sports media manager is why Geelong's media manager would allow Bailey to be interviewed before the Brownlow on the Kyl and Jackie oshow, because obviously the focus of the interview was going to be Tammy.

All that appearance has done is actually create more headlines and distractions.

Yeah, but maybe they saw it as an opportunity for him to say, Hey, I'm not with her, She's not attending the Brownlow.

Everyone can calm down.

Well, it got me thinking, Bailiff Smith he is a brand in himself, so he actually has more Instagram followers than Gelong Football Club.

He's got four hundred and three thousand followers while Geelong has two hundred and seventy one thousand.

So I wonder if he's just too big now for the club, like he doesn't have to abide by the club rules and his manager possibly set this interview up.

I don't think Bailey Smith really gives a fuck when anyone tells him to do.

I think he just does what he wants to do.

But I think it's clear that he has been told by his coach that he needs to focus on footage.

Yeah, rein it in a little bit now.

We spoke about the interview briefly on Tuesday show, but I want to go more into it now that we have the time, Kate to refresh everyone's memories.

This is how Bailey broke the news that he wouldn't be taking Tammy to the Brown low A.

You're taking Tammy tonight or no, I'm not.

No, I didn't want to bore her with footy all night.

So yeah, she's not a big footy fan.

And they were just mates.

So you guys are like exclusive or boyfriend girl.

We're just just mate.

Loves the exclusivity and I said, I do love relationships.

Bailey went on to say that he was taking his jiu jitsu coach, who is one of his best mates.

How random is that he also said his mate would be getting blind all night and was planning on having.

A big one.

My blood absolutely boiled for Tammy when he kept referring to her as a mate.

Like what an absolute slap in the face.

I mean, do you take your mate Sophie to romantic restaurants and pose the photos with your hand on their knee.

Well, no, I don't really have any male mates that I would get.

I mean, do you make out with them in bars?

And definitely not?

If so, like the whole.

Mate things like yeah, okay, like whatever, like we're not stupid.

I mean the thing I think I find most offensive is by putting the term mate on it.

It kind of sounds like fuck buddies.

Yeah, I mean, or, as we touched on on Tuesday Show, that they were only doing it to make Mattzakowski jealous and to get attention.

Yeah.

Well, Jackie O was just as confused as the rest of us and asked Bailey if he was a relationship type of guy or just likes to keep things casual, and Bailey admitted he was a relationship guy up until a year and a half ago, but said he is now single and enjoying it.

He did concede, though, that he's keen for a missus eventually.

Well, isn't that such footy speak and missus?

It makes me feel sick.

Yeah, I hate it if my partner ever refers to me as his missus or the misses.

I think that's even more offense here.

Yeah.

Well, in terms of his relationship timeline, his last girlfriend was Jemma Dawkins and they kept their relationship pretty low key.

They didn't post much online together.

They attended the Grand Prix and Derby Day together, but that was kind of it.

Those were the only photos that we saw of them.

So it seems like this is the relationship that's made him want to be single for a while.

For guys, it's always this one girl that sort of ruins them for everyone else.

They need that time off to be a dickhead and get over the I don't think we should be blaming Gemma.

Oh, not that as her fault.

No, I'm just saying, but there always seems to be that one girl that either got away or it's an excuse for them.

I mean, we need to remember that Bailey Smith is only twenty.

Four years old.

Actually, lose my mind.

It freaks me out now.

Kyle jumped in after Jackie O's comments and asked if Bailey's Tinder ambassador role involved going on lots of dates.

And this is what Bailey said.

I go on a few dates.

Don't mind that, but yeah, I don't know.

I'm out trying to find a missus, that's for sure, but not not actively searching.

I just want to win, win Saturday, and then we'll see how are we going.

Now?

To me, that last bit confirms that this whole cooling down of the relationship with Tammy is all to do with footy, and I think it will be back on with Tammy after the Grand Final.

I don't necessarily think it is going to be all back on with Tammy.

I think that things were pretty casual and it's just a rebound for me.

I think if this was legit, she might have made a few potshots online already about it.

So your theory is that they're still dating.

That's why she hasn't been throwing any shade at him on TikTok, because she's like, oh, I better respect that this is his work and his profession.

I mean, I think it's clearly that we've got to understand how serious a Grand Final campaign is.

Like he would have been sat down by his coaching staff and said, you need to focus on footy.

You can't be going out on all his public dates with Tammy.

Hembro having paparazzi following you about posting all this shit on social media.

He hasn't been very brave speaking publicly about his mental health and how doing his ACL really brought him to a dark place, and a couple of days ago he shared an Instagram showing his rehab and him getting back into footy and talking about how huge it is that he's now playing in a Grand final.

And you know, as you said, Kate, no one can question how big this is in an AFL player's life.

This isn't Bailey's first Grand final.

So when he was playing for the Western Bulldogs, he played in the twenty twenty one Grand Final and they lost, so it's probably made him hungrier for the win this weekend.

Getting back to.

This interview, it was quite funny because they had callers ring in with questions and one asked this so quick question regarding you and Tammy, who reached out to did.

You fight in her?

Did you sighte in her?

Inbox on insol?

Like?

How did it work?

So that's a good question because a lot of us want to.

Know, Yeah, how'd that come to be?

How that box live?

I knew you we could go no flid in her?

And what did you say?

Yay?

Yay, yay, Nah.

Nothing.

We don't want him to give away We don't want him to give away his you know all the gold here.

Were you surprised that he slid into her DMS?

It did surprise me, But then again, I've got to remind myself that I don't have the brain of a twenty four year old man.

Think with your penis, no, Because if I heard that someone I was interested in was going through a divorce, I'd probably steer clear of them for a couple of months at least.

Doesn't that show his intentions from there?

Like obviously a bit of a rebound.

I mean, I was surprised, but then when I heard him speak more about his DMS, it sort of made more sense because he said he doesn't actually look at his DMS and that he gets so many unsolicited dick picks all the time from men.

Wow, it appears that Bailey and Tammy's ex husband Matt Zakowski have more things in common than we thought, because we have, of course learned now that Bailey does jiu jitsu and boxing, and he said that he wants to do an MMA fight.

So could we get Matt Zakowski and Bailey Smith in the ring.

Can we host it?

We can do a little podcast live from down there.

Wouldn't that be funny?

Oh my god, it would be excellent fighting for Tammy's love, Like this is very reminiscent of Jordan Simmy fighting for Sammy Robinson.

Oh can you imagine the views on YouTube?

I just put on a lot of money.

Lads, if you're listening to the podcast, reach out.

We're happy to organize it.

Now over to Camp Tammy.

We have touched on how she's trying to play it pretty cool and as though she doesn't care about this Brownlow snub, even though I feel like she would be dying inside and slightly and but particularly spending all that time at her sister skin clinic leading into the event, dropping that you had this big event on and then we've seen no said big event.

Now.

Over the weekend, she holidayed in Byron Bay with her kids, who are on school holidays.

At the moment, she appeared to be there with her best friend, Isabelle Laws.

I would love to know if this trip was pre booked or booked after she got the news about the brown Low.

It kind of gave me the vibe it's something that you're like, oh my god, I'm so disappointed that I don't get to go to this event that we've got to book something in to make up for it, or it was a cover because it's like I've always had this trip planned.

I was never going to the Brownlow Medal.

Yeah, that is true.

I mean it's very clever.

As someone who grew up as a footy fan, whenever I used to watch the Brownlow as a young girl, I always used to feel that like, oh, I wish I could go like burning feeling.

Imagine actually dating one of the players and not being invited, like the absolutely burned.

Well, they've only been.

Dating for a few weeks.

I feel like most of the wives and girlfriends have to be around for potentially a year before getting the invite.

That's usually how these footy guys work.

I feel like the Brownlow is such a difficult event for footy players to navigate because there'd be so many of them dating multiple women.

I mean, just look at Travis Boke side note.

It's quite interesting because he kind of fits into this whole space because he is good friends with Matt Paul.

Matt Paul went over to Adelaide to watch Travis Boke's last game.

I was like, how do they know each other?

Is it through Iron Man?

Yeah, well I think Travis is into all of that sort of stuff, so potentially.

But anyway, Travis Boke is known for being well the most eligible bachelor in Adelaide.

Yeah.

I mean he's a very good looking guy and he has barely ever taken a date to any of these footy functions.

They always bring their mom and look like the nice guy, but their mom there a sister, not because they've been tuning all these other girls kind of scenes.

But then on his final best and Fair Support he bought his girlfriend.

Yeah, it's kind of like, well, I hung up the boots, I'm retired.

Now here's my girl.

Before we wrap this up, we have to talk about what Bailey Smith wore on the Red Car.

But he was wearing a pair of speed Dealers sonnies.

I was almost relieved for Tammy that she didn't have to stand next to that, because it was very embarrassing.

It's kind of that tripe where it seems like young men these days and I say that sounding so old at thirty six, but it seems like they're trying to make themselves look.

The ugliest as possible.

Like I was watching, I'm like, well, their haircuts look so fun Well, he with the sideburns.

It reminds me of the Simpsons when it's lack of sight, That's what I'm It's like when mister Burns, like, get rid of the sideburns, Strawberry, Yeah, and he gets rid of the whole thing.

Because it's like, I don't even have any side burns.

I have to say, I'm not a fan of an all black ensemble.

Like I hated the fact that the shirt was black, the jacket was black, the tie was black.

He's a very good looking man.

Like the thing is, he's still pulled it off.

I had to wear something different, didn't he.

It's a whole gen z thing.

It was funny because I heard that's all these memes where he's like, everyone stopped talking about me, the media, get off my back, and then rocks up with these stupid sunglasses on.

That's just going to get all his attention.

I mean.

Also the photos that he was posting beforehand, if him like lying on one of the beds at Crown, Oh, it's just all a bit of a up, isn't it.

Did you notice he posed alongside the AFL CEO Andrew Dillon.

And it was only a few weeks ago that Andrew Dillon was making cracks at a Geelong event about Tommy Hamburg coming to the Brown Low.

I've got some new clothes that left you a tryan hale as She Bynes has announced she's expanding her podcast team despite abruptly canceling her podcast live tour.

The og fitness influencer advertised for the position across her social media channels, but the job description left people shocked.

Before we get into that, Okay, can you tell us more about Ashi's podcast?

So as she co hosts her self improvement podcast called She Rises alongside her latest best friend, Tiana Bundelow.

They released four episodes a week and back in May announced that they would be hosting retreats in Bali for listeners now as She was forced to relaunch the podcast under a new name at the start of this year after a public friendship breakdown with her co host Kiara Doro.

At the time, followers speculated that Kiara had been gagged, but she actually ended up dropping a few details about what went down.

Riating between the lines, it seems like Ashi put a lot of pressure on Kiara when it came to the podcast.

So Kiara said the podcast was meant to be a bit of a fun side project, but as she took it way more seriously.

Kiara even labeled her friendship with Ashy full on.

So when ash promoted that she she was expanding the podcast team, people started speculating that her co host Tiana must also be struggling with the workload.

Listeners have been picking up on a bit of a vibe that Tiana has been left to do the majority of the heavy lifting with this podcast, and that seemed to be confirmed when both Ashy and Tiana shared on social media what their roles were for the podcast, and Tiana definitely takes care of the majority of the back end work, from the finances to the editing.

Oh my god, what about when Ashy claimed that she couldn't do the more technical edits because her fingers were chubbier than Tiana, she suually can't really zoom in.

As for what ash does, she said she prints off the script and sticks them onto card and also uploads the tiktoks and sends out a newsletter.

In terms of actually coming up with the content, I got a little bit confused because as she was like, oh, yeah, you're much better at structured Tiana.

You come up with the structure and then I go in there and sort of add the content.

But it kind of seems to me that Tiana comes up with the idea of the episode and then Ash will sort of write a few little dot points underneath headlines.

It is a lot of content for Tiana to come up with, because, as you touched on Kate, they release four episodes a week.

That is a big effort and I found it pretty fascinating learning more about behind the scenes of their podcast because they actually bulk record all of those episodes.

So once a month, they drive from the Gold Coast up to Brisbane, they book in a recording studio, they stay there overnight and they record sixteen episodes.

Now getting back to this job advertisement, as she wrote on Instagram that they're looking for an assistant role, so they want someone to work five to six plus hours a week and they said that there's.

Potential growth in the role.

She wrote, We're looking for a high vibe, creative, ridiculously organized, and self led assistant to join the she Risers team.

This role starts at around five hours a week, with opportunity to expand into more hours as the brand continues to grow.

We're looking for someone who can keep up with the rapid growth and stay organized when it comes to our project planning and evolving brand.

This is a flexible work from home role with the potential for in office work in the future.

Could it be more clear that chat GPT wrote that job advertisement now despite saying that they wanted someone to work five to six hours a week, the list of responsibilities was so big that they had to divide it into weekly and monthly tasks.

Let's run through them.

So.

They want someone to upload podcast snippets to TikTok and Instagram three times a day on each platform.

Write captions for all of the uploads.

Set up many chat keyword automatics, manage customer care for retreats, manage she Rises Instagram dms, manage customer service for the she Rises subscription, reach out to potential podcast guests, sent out weekly newsletter, brainstorm creative content ideas, plan and organize trending weekly content in Google Docs now.

As for the monthly responsibilities, they included project planning and organizing brand initiatives, printing and preparing speaking point cards for filming as she's obviously fed up doing that, assistant photo shoots, run Errand's when required, track monthly revenue, follow up invoices and subscriptions for retreats, and provide ongoing customer.

Service for she Rises retreat.

So there's an awful lot on someone's plate for someone who works five to six hours a week.

I mean, I'm sorry, that is a full time gig.

Like, I don't understand how that is being advertised as five to six hours a week.

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Well, they obviously didn't have trouble finding someone because on Wednesday, Ashi and Tiana announce that they'd interviewed their first PA.

They tease their audience that it was someone they may already know, and hours later they confirmed that they had hired her.

I love that they hire the first person they interviewed, Like to me, the fact that it was someone they know makes it sound like no one actually applied for the job.

So they had to go in house and go you know, because as she's got an other business Hideaway, I'm guessing that someone from the Hideaway team.

It's interesting because from the outside, it looks like this podcast is absolutely flourishing since the rebrand, and when as she announced the rebrand, she made it very clear that this podcast is a top priority of hers, and in terms of success on the charts, last month, the podcast ranked number two hundred and eighty five with twenty one thousand monthly listeners and forty six thousand downloads across twenty three episodes, So that means roughly each episode is averaging around two thousand downloads.

Well, not to shit on anyone, but that's actually not very much considering the large Instagram following that she has, And it's quite clear why their strategy is to release four episodes a week, because they're trying to bolster up their total download numbers.

Yeah, I mean that was obvious to me looking at it as well.

And again, i mean, two thousand downloads is good for a podcast, but not when you have, you know, a million followers on Instagram.

Like, it's quite clear that your followers aren't listening to your podcast.

It's good for a startup podcast of people who have no profile whatsoever, but yeah, for someone of her status, that's pretty disappointing.

Yeah, I mean, it's quite clear that they're very focused on creating revenue.

From their podcast.

They have ads running on it, so they would be creating some revenue through the ad stream, but they've also now set up this additional revenue stream of the retreats.

So they announced that they sold out of their May twenty twenty six retreats in eight hours.

I was like, oh, wow, that's a lot.

But then to put that into perspective, there are only twenty four spots available on the trip.

Yeah, but this is what all influencers do.

We've sold out of everything, but we have very limited spots.

Yeah.

It was weird because then they launched this other retreat for September twenty twenty six off the back of selling out, and they kept claiming, oh but we've got hundreds of people in the waiting list.

But then the way it was set up was so unprofessional because people had to DM them saying that they were interested, and then they sent them the brochure with the details and then they were like, oh, but you can pay for it in full, or we can do a payment plan, but we have to get back to our hotel in Balley because they were over in Bally to do that, like it was just it was just so unprofessional.

I was like, you can't run a bussiness like that.

Well, another sign that things aren't going so well for this podcast comes down to their live tour.

So they have been spooking since the start of the year that they are holding live tours around the country, and in late April they announced this tour and claimed they had already sold out of VIP tickets and general admissions were flying off the shelves.

Yeah.

So when I was doing research for this topic, I was like, oh, I didn't even know they had a live show on And I clicked on the link that they provided in one of their highlighted Instagram stories and it came up with like an error, and I was like, oh, that's weird.

So I started googling and I came across a ticket page and to my surprise, it was listed as canceled.

So on the page it said, due to unforeseen circumstances, she Rises Live with Ashy and Tiana has unfortunately been canceled.

Affected ticket holders will receive an email advising of the cancelation and next steps.

Please check your inbox and spam junk folders.

Well, there's a job for the assists and please email a handful of people who have secured tickets to your life show, please give them their money back now.

This led me to do some further digging because I was like, oh, surely Ash and Tiana have publicly announced that this tour was canceled somewhere, and I spent ages trawling through the she Risers Instagram account.

In the end, I ended up putting a call out on Outspoken's Facebook community asking if anyone had heard anything.

Now.

Everyone was like, Oh, I wonder if it's another friendship bust up now.

Off the back of my post in the Facebook community, the news spread to Tattle Life and someone ended up sharing a message that Tiana sent them about the live show, so she wrote, that's right.

Unfortunately, we made the decision to pause she Risers Live.

We were navigating a lot of changes slash difficulties with getting this event up and running, and it just felt extremely forceful.

It wasn't lining up in the way we originally wanted it to when we first launched.

We tossed up for a long time with this decision because we only ever wanted to deliver the best experience for you, ladies, and with venue issues and some internal challenges, we just decided to pause it until we can deliver one hundred percent.

Refunds were the easiest way we could support all the women who bought tickets instead of giving credits and leaving it open ended, etc.

But we are building something right now that we know you'll love.

Thank you for understanding, and we're excited for the day we can get up on the stage and have you join us.

Look, I don't mean to be that person, but it's quite clear that they just didn't get the numbers.

Yeah, I mean, it's nothing to do with the venue going through.

I just find it very unprofessional that they didn't publicly announce that this tour wasn't happening, like if there was a legitimate reason, like oh, we're having issues because the venue is not big enough to hold everyone, or you know, because they claimed they had sold out of VIP tickets and you know the other tickets were selling like hotcakes.

Well, if you are.

A die hard fan of this podcast, you're buying the VIP tickets.

So maybe they thought, wow, those have sold so quickly, there's going to be an outpouring of interest in our general admission tickets.

But there just wasn't.

I mean, yeah, it seems pretty obvious that there were a lack of ticket sales.

But I think if you really care about the community that you're building, and there were people that bought tickets, you need to publicly address it and say, look, I'm sorry, we're actually rescheduling the show, like just say that there's a schedule class or something.

It's because they don't want to go into the real reason that they're canceling this tour.

So they would rather hide it.

Yeah.

I mean in that message, Tiana dropped that they're bringing something else out and they have been teasing it, which was giving me flashbacks to when Kiara and Ash were teasing a product and then suddenly there was radio silence and they were no longer friends nor hosting the podcast together.

So I'm wondering if this product will ever see the light of day.

A lot of people were guessing what it was in the comments section.

They have revealed it's not a dildo, which was one of the guesses, and then a couple of other people asked if it was a planner or a journal.

It is not either of those.

Different it is a dildo or a journal.

Well, we know that Ash has been selling natural Loube, so I mean, there's a variety of products that could be I was actually going back over the run sheet that we did back in January when we discussed the relaunch of this podcast, and it seems Ashy Bynes kind of has already ruined her surprise because she spoke about how they want to do it a four week self improvement course.

So I'm guessing the product has to do with that.

Let's get into our Friday debrief, and I'm coming with a recommendation that has really surprised me because I scrolled past it so many times on Netflix, and I'm like, I am not interested in Charlie Sheen.

I grew up with dad watching Two and a Half Man.

I despised the show.

I never really got it.

I never even understood that Charlie Sheen was a big actor before then.

Nah, I had no idea he well, he saw was playing himself.

Yeah, so he was sort of a bit of a joke on that show.

I just viewed him as this washed up actor.

Anyway, there wasn't much on Netflix, so I'm like, let's just watch it.

I love a celebrity documentary as well, and I was like, oh, okay, I'm guessing that they haven't spoken to him, like it must be everyone else speaking about him.

No.

No, he was there, absolutely telling everything.

It was amazing.

I was a bit skeptical at first and thought I'm not going to enjoy this, but it really hooked me in.

With the first story he told about being on an aeroplane on the way to his honeymoon with his wife or one of his wives.

He had three wives, and basically he got invited into the cockpit because the captain was a big fan of him, and he said, hey, mate, could I put on your captain's jack.

I think you're forgetting the fact that he had just downed four shots prior to entering the cockpit, and also he'd been drinking throughout.

The whole flight.

He was very intoxicated.

Yeah, so he's off his face at this point, off his jobs and he said, yeah, could I also put your captain's hat on?

And the guy's like, nokay, And then they took a photo and then he said, oh, can I sit behind the wheel And the pilot's like all right, So the co pilot gets up and the pilot actually flicked over the controls.

So Charlie Sheen.

Was flying the fucking plane.

This is a passenger jet with like four hundred people on it, and he said he started to sort of turn it slightly and the plane started tilting and that's when the pilot decided, Hey, this isn't a good idea.

Let's flick this off.

So it was the perfect way to portray the power and celebrity that Charlie Sheen had at that point in time and how he could basically get away with anything.

Yeah.

Well, it was a great introduction to the doco because the interviewer is like, was it at this point that you thought you could get away with anything?

And he's like, yeah, I've never been a fan of the guy because there's always been these stories in the background about alleged domestic violence with his partners.

And two of his partners actually did appear in the documentary and it was quite interesting because although it was quite clear that they had a tumultuous relationship with him, they still remained in his life because they shared children together.

And it shocked about how much Denise Richards did fear Charlie she In, particularly, I don't want to ruin the docco, but the fact that she took in his twins with his new wife.

Yeah, when they were going to be taken into care.

And that's the thing.

Even though he was such a jerk, there was still a likable quality to him.

Maybe it was because he's actually being so honest now he has a lot of charisma as well.

Yeah, like he like I've never foun him attractive, and I'm like, oh, he was a really good looking young guy.

It is a fascinating documentary.

If you were looking for something to watch with your partner on the weekend, I would definitely tune in.

It had me hooked for like the three or four.

Hours that it went for.

I've just been desperately looking for something to get into after the summer I turned pretty Finale.

I've been living for that show.

You guys have not watched it.

I feel like it's the biggest show in the world at the moment, and I don't know what I can convince you to get into it.

I've watched one series and I did kind of like it like years ago, so I feel like it's a bit of a commitment that I have to rewatch it.

You don't actually watch it, don't bother watching the second series that was disappointing.

Go straight to the third Kay, suer good.

We've been watching the poor man's version of the Summer I turned pretty.

We were watching Home with the Walk to Boys.

What the fuck is that?

It's got Donna from suits.

Teenage?

You guys need to watch something that's actually trending at the moment.

You recently watching the Block.

I'm like, are you guys just middle aged?

Now?

I will not have you say a bad thing against that show.

The Block is my comfort show.

So fucking tragic.

I don't know who watches free to air TV anymore.

Get on, Nat Flick.

I was listening to baby Talk podcast with Taylor Broad and Lana Murphy and they both love the Block, So I think you need to get around it.

All right, Well, can you can someone please.

Convince Kate to watch the third series of the Summer Time.

I'll watch it if you.

Watch the Block.

I'm not watching the Block.

I've missed it all.

It's on free to I've missed it.

It's on Catch On.

I'm not I'll give it a go.

Just watch Summer ten.

Pretty.

I want to know if your team Conrad or team jeremih Al Right, well, I think that's what we're going to leave things today.

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