For you, Glen Colcrow, you go, Glen Coco.

And when Santa squeezes his fat white ass down that Jimney Day, He's gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes this side of the nuthouse.

Hello, and welcome to this very festive episode of Outspoken.

I am so excited to be in your ears on Christmas Eve or an absolute honor.

It is a sacred day, isn't it.

Yeah?

I said in yesterday's episode that Christmas Eve is actually my favorite day of the year.

Don't you think it feels more Christmasy on Christmas Eve?

Like I've seen a lot of commentary around the fact that Christmas Day it kind of drops off the excitement because I think I enjoy more of the lead up to Christmas.

I think after Christmas Morning, Yes, I enjoy the lead up, and then I think the magic of Christmas Morning and also going out and seeing if your milk's been drunk or your carrots have been chewed or whatever.

Have you seen those parents that create kind of like you know, when the foot is on and they run through like a paper banner.

They set up a wall paper banner.

So what they do is they cover the whole thing so you can't even see into the room in Christmas paper, and all the kids run through it and see the Christmas tree with all the presents around it.

How cool is that?

That's pretty cool And I'm guessing that it helps stop any little eyes from peering down and seeing their parents.

I've seen another thing on TikTok where the dads will dress up as Santa Claus and they'll get like the mum will wake up the kids and be like, what she's coming in.

I love that.

I love the comments because someone's like, I tried this once and my kids didn't go to sleep after Oh truth, that would Yeah, that would be hard to get them back to bed.

I remember one Christmas Eve and our dad used to go absolutely nuts with Christmas lights.

He's done a very nice effort this year, but it's not what he used to do, Like he used to have like twenty sets of Christmas lights up and amy.

When we used to still share a room, all three of us up until we were about nine, you had your bed across the window so you had the best view of the Christmas lights coming in and I could kind of see them from my bed too.

And I remember one Christmas.

Dad used to have a timer on the Christmas lights, but it malfunctioned and the lights went on at like two am, and you kind of like woke and buy them.

And I thought I heard Santa on the roof as well, and I remember just remember not being up to fall asleep from that point.

We had a brush fence, and I remember a few times looking out the window and thinking that the brush fence was the sleigh.

Oh, and there was that one Christmas Eve we went to our uncle Paul's house and all our extended family was there, and our cousin rushed over and goes, oh my god, girls, I just saw santrum pointed to the sky and I was just my mind was blown, like it was so exciting.

Yeah, I want to get into Christmas present etiquette.

I know by now everyone will have hopefully wrapped their presence.

That's a goal for me.

But I know that I'll have a couple of ones that I will have to wrap before I go to bed on Christmas Eve, like every year that happens to me.

But what do you think about gift cards?

Are they thoughtful or lazy?

I love a gift card.

I actually think it's really thoughtful to give someone something so they can get something that they actually want, because often you just get a load of crap or don't want you don't want in your house.

And it's not lazy either because you have to actually go on physically usually get one.

The thing is, though, I would feel differently if it was my partner getting me a gift card, because I think that's lazy.

I think that's like a little bit thoughtless.

I think Dale was really scared about what to get me this year, because remember we had that laugh about how we'd purchase some stuff off TIMU and then I found the tmou thing and he didn't give it to me.

See, on our side of the family, we've decided to do a Chris Kringle, just like the three of us and our husbands, because we'd prefer to spend the money on the babies.

Yeah, and it's quite funny because i'd well it disclaimed.

I actually do know who Sophie has got because she can't keep me selfree.

She literally like I didn't even have to try and pry the information out of her.

I also know who Dale has well.

I stuffed up and I accidentally because Mum knows because she was making sure that we all like we did it through an app and weill like, imagine if someone just everyone gets me.

And so I was talking about a present that I had purchased for my Chris Kringle, and then I said it out loud and Reese was in the other room, but he was totally thrown.

He thought I had someone completely different.

So I was like really smug about it, and then I'm like, damn it, you heard.

But anyway, I was saying that whoever has Dale and it could be me, should have got him.

There was a hat on Uncle Recco that said t mooslut.

Like, I just thought it was so funny.

You should have got it for him for Christmas.

Yeah, but you're become a bit of a t mooselut.

I have become a t moose slut.

I got a lot of Christmas decorations off TI move.

Yeah, as in yeah for my we're talking about the other in the other episode for your table escape escaped just up using the word tablescape, which just sounds so wanky, doesn't it.

Yeah, who do you think I have for Grise Kringle?

I reckon, you've got me.

I'm hoping that I'm not denying, and I'm not going to confer who do you think you've got?

Hanging out?

Like, who do you think?

Who do you think that you have?

Do you mean I know who I've got?

You said, who do you think you've got?

No, I'm saying who do you think I have?

I?

Oh, I don't want to say because I already said I knew who Sophan Dale have?

Oh true?

Because yea, I don't want to get away.

Okay, interesting, all right?

So for the Chris Goole present, have you gone nice present or joke present?

Oh?

Nice people doing joke once?

Because you said the t mooslut thing.

Oh but like that's a small press, that's a small portion because we're spending one hundred bucks.

I hope no one's not a mean present for me.

Oh no, as got me.

I definitely think Dale's got me.

I'm not saying anything.

I don't even know what Dale's got for the present.

For whoever he's got, I haven't helped him.

Well, how do you know who's got them?

He told me who he had.

Why I don't know who Reese's gone.

He's very secret about this.

I was saying how Dale was really scared what to get me for Christmas, and he revealed, I don't know some part of my Christmas present.

It's a I thought you picked it out.

No, no, it's a I did I picked something up.

But he's got me this Christmas ball ball which plays a video.

I've never seen them.

He's like, surely you've seen them.

I'm like, I have not seen I saw a magnet version of those.

Yeah, but like it's not yeah, like just it plays a song.

He said that he had to tell me because he wanted to put photos or videos of Harry on it, but he didn't really have any on his phone because men never take video.

That's a whole other topic.

Reese and I have decided that rather than trying to guess what each other wants, because last year I felt like I had a bit of a gift fail.

So I got him this really nice leather laptop bag from Aquilla, and I was like, oh, that's really nice.

And then he got me all these like different thoughtful things.

It was like, you know, your first Christmas was jack Book, and then it was like some poo bear Christmas pajamas and a Christmas jumper with like the personalize on with our family Honor and New Balance shoes, all these really cool things, and I was like, oh, I've only got him sort of like one big gift.

And then it turned out, I know, a couple of weeks after Christmas, he revealed that he actually already had a brown leather laptop bag.

I mean it was from Amazon or something, and I felt terrible, but then I was like, hang on, you only had me to organize a gift for, like I had to organize a gift for Jack and all of our whole family and your family.

So that sort of went the gilt went away.

But Reese is so hard to buy for because I don't know, he doesn't really like he clothes, but he's got so many and I wouldn't want to pick them out for him.

He's got his own style, and then I end up buying him shoes, and he's got like fifty pairs of shoes.

So we've decided that we're just going to buy like a bigger ticket item together that we actually need.

So I have been wanting a king bed for so long.

We've got two Golden Retrievers that share our bed, But do you think we've had time to organize it?

No?

So we're probably going to get it in the boxing day sales.

But then I'm like, I feel like I need to get something small for restonunt wrap, and it's really hard to come up with a nice gift that's small that's not very expensive, because I was a whole point to save money.

Well, do you know what I've got Dale?

I think I can say on this podcast he's not going to listen.

Well, he asked for some ray band sunglasses, So I got those sunglasses for him, and I thought that was kind of it because we'd said, oh, we want to spend X amount on each other, but then he kept saying like how he's got this thing, and he'd really like, I know, he spent more on me.

So I don't want to be that person that's got given the shit present.

So I went out and I've bought It's a digital camera, but it looks like an old school camera and it doesn't have the screen on the back, and that is so his.

He loves all that sort of cool stuff, and it takes it like an old sort of film camera.

I've even heard of them.

That's cool.

Yeah, And then because Dad doesn't really take photos in it, so you can take photos of Harry.

I thought gets some better photos for the ball ble so it doesn't have to very fighting with it.

Yeah, exactly.

And then I also got him because he loves Pokemon and he's got a Nintendo switch.

I got him a Pokemon game, so hopefully he likes it.

And I'm going to be doing a Christmas photo shoot of Harry over the next couple of nays, so I'm going to get them all printed.

Can you do one of Yeah?

Yeah, okay.

Do you think you're good at pretending to love a bad gift?

No?

I think my face says it all.

We have the most expressive faces, Like Jack has got that from me.

Everyone's like, why is he so expressive?

I'm like, it's from me.

That being said, Sophie is so good at faking stuff, like because SO and I work to fake from because SO and I we have our PR agency together, and I can't do all that fake Like, but do you think she can be fake?

Like, say, Brandon gave her a gift that she didn't like?

Do you think she can fake that?

Because I think it's easier when you don't know the person.

But I think she could Probably, I think she could fake souf thing.

But then eventually, like a few days later, we'd say, oh I hate that.

See reason I still have the ongoing joke about when he got me a shower caddy for Christmas, and it wasn't the only gift, like this sound's so spoiled because you got me so many other lovely things, but it was the Christmas before our wedding, so our wedding was like literally like a couple of weeks after, and I was like, this is so unromantic, Like we're getting married in a few weeks and you bought me a shower caddy.

The ship presents beginner's husband and a wife.

Yeah, yeah, we're nearly three years married and we've decided not to get each other a gift and just buy a bed.

But yeah, I was terrible, Like I can't hide it, and actually like I don't know why my one of my love languages must be gifts, because when people aren't thoughtful, like I actually felt like crying.

Well day Al said the other day, and I don't know if he was joking.

We were talking about how for my car we need to put a better sunshade up for Harry, oh yeah, and he said something like I've purchased it for you for Christmas.

And I was like, that's not a Christmas present And I said what And I said, that's what i' Christmas present.

I said, he's your son too, so there's for him.

It's not it might be going to be yeah, and he's like and he's like, oh, oh no to I'll just give it to you.

Then I was like, wait, sorry, Like see, I suppose it depends how you grow up.

Like I think Reese is really into like practical gifts, and then I've tried to be more practical with his gifts because it's so difficult.

He is born on the fourteenth of December, so I've got to work out a Christmas gift and a Birthday gift, and you can't do the same present, like you can't do a combined one.

But then I was really practical for his birthday present.

I got him an annual membership to the Zoo so he can take Jack all the time.

I told you, guys, having a zuper, I know, but I thought it was good because it's like he told me, oh no, don't waste your money on me, Like we'll just spend it on Jack.

And I'm like well, that's sort of covered the basis, but it's for him.

Do you know one of my favorite things to do on Boxing Day is go and watch influencers stories or tiktoks of how they have spent Christmas.

It used to be the Kadashian's Christmas Eve party that I loved watching.

But yeah, I can't wait for all the Christmas Day vlogs to come out, Like, even though they take a while, this good.

I'm loving Vogmas this year.

Well did you hear?

Sorry on that?

Did you hear that?

Molly May said that she is spending Christmas just with Tommy and his family.

Yeah?

I thought that was a bit controversial.

I saw her.

I'm sure her family will be annoyed.

Maybe it's because I didn't spend Christmas last year together because they were broken up.

Yeah, well it made me think her family still angry at him, But she said it was because her sister Zoe and brother in law Danny have just moved into their new home.

So what I take from that is I think they do live quite close to Molly and Tommy.

Oh maybe they might be.

Molly and Tommy are further away now in that new house.

But she said because her sisters Zoe and brother in law Danny have just built their house and moved into it.

That's why they're not doing Christmas with each other.

Sounds a bit sus because often the family will sleep over at Molly's house.

God.

Yeah.

Also, I feel like you've got to do Christmas at the best house, Like if you've got you know, if you've got a rich relative that's got the standout house, you should have it there.

Yeah, one hundred percent, Like at our auntie and uncle's.

Yeah.

Like if you guys had some fuck off like five million dollar mansion, I'd be having Christmas there.

I'd be sleeping over there, I'd be spending the lead up to Christmas there.

Yeah.

Slightly different topic, but how have you gone with organizing Harry's Christmas gifts?

I'm stressing about it because everyone keeps asking me as well, like what should I get for Harry?

And I don't know.

Just to put it out there, this is pre recorded.

Obviously, we're recording on the eighteen, so you obviously you probably can't order anything.

Have you seen the gift guides on TikTok?

Yes, I watched a few of them.

So what I'm thinking is I want something practical, So he's getting a ball pit, like a bootlet ball pit for a hooklet from Mum and Dad.

And as one of his presents, I've got him some clothes.

I've got him like a really cute country road jumper and some little country road socks that are on sale.

I'm thinking of getting him some soft play stuff, but I was doing my research the other night.

I just couldn't find anything I liked.

Like it was expensive as well.

It was even like six hundred dollars for some play soft play stuff that looked cool, or it was like some really garish bright colors that came up.

That's what I found difficult because I thought I'd already purchased all of Jack's presence, you know, I've spent quite a bit on them.

And then when I put them out, I'm like, this doesn't look like a lot, because obviously you know you've got FC's gift too.

And then like I'm like, well, do I need to get him more?

Like do I need to go down to kmart and get him some sort of cheaper stocking stuffers.

But then I'm like, he's going to get so much from everyone else.

I saw this TikTok, and it was like, if you're second guessing how many presents you've given your kids, don't give them any more house And it was just like chaos.

True that that's actually a really good point because we got him a sort of bigger ticket item was like a Yoto player.

Oh yeah, so I'd like to have It's sort of a selfish present because I kind of want to have my phone back because I'm in the stage where he has to be listening to music whilst eating breakfast or in the car.

But then that means I can't like talk on the phone to you or you know, listen to a podcast or something like in my headphones.

It's a gift to you and him.

Yeah, and it's apparently really good because they can pick their own song and skip them and all that sort of stuff.

So I'm excited for him to get that about that, And I was like, I might just buy Harry a CD player, but this one's portable and you can take portable ced even then you've got to get CDs, do they even?

Yeah, but you've got to listen to that crap a lot.

Like I would just want you get into some quick fire, would you rather Christmas style questions.

So, Kate, would you rather host every year or never host again?

Host every year?

What about you?

Yeah, I think I'd rather host every year.

I love it.

Would you rather cook or clean?

Cook?

Definitely, like a million times over, say cooking and cleaning, but I could do both normally.

But would you rather no presence or no food?

It's funny because I was just saying that presents are part of my love language.

But does that mean no presence for me?

Like means no presence in general?

I think you've got to go keep the presence in because I think that's what makes it most special for kids doing Yeah, but kids don't care about the food as much like I think the magic of Christmas Santa and presents, like I think of that was gone I picked.

I mean, if it was just present for me, I'd pick food.

Yeah, I'd forgo presents for me, like I'd have the food instead.

Would you rather Christmas at home or away?

So overseas somewhere.

I'd love to do a white Christmas at some point, but I'd have to have all my family there, like if my family wasn't there, But definitely at home, like I think it would be cool.

To do it once.

But I think that even though, say if you went to New York or London for a white Christmas, I still don't think it would feel Christmasy, even though that is like the epitome of Christmas vibes because we're so used to summer Christmas.

You know what I'd prefer to do if I was wanting to have a white Christmas, I'd prefer to go like maybe on for like a week over there or two weeks, but in the lead up to Christmas and then Christmas Day at home true Brandon's family.

I remember one year they went to Bali.

Yeah, I couldn't do it Christmas in Balley, Like that would just feel wrong.

Definitely post Christmas.

What would it feel wrong?

Because it's so hot, because it's frogging hot here.

Just I mean, I just like being at home.

I like having my traditions.

I like the Christmas tree.

In terms of Christmas traditions, are there anything that you've brought in this year now that you are a mum?

Like I feel like Christmas traditions become super important when you start your own family and it's a chance to actually create your own Well, Harry's only eight months, so there's not really anything that I've brought in per se, But I think as he gets older, I'll definitely be looking for some more Christmas traditions to bring in.

Well, you're doing Christmas Eve box, aren't.

We spoke about that earlier, how it was meant to be.

Forgot sitting right next to me.

I've got to paint the box.

I forgot about it.

Oh my god, it was something I thought of that Why don't you just save it for next year then?

Because well, and just change it to December first box.

It literally says on it Christmas.

Even that can be changed paint over.

Also, I want to do one where, like before Christmas, maybe one of his presents will be in the box, because I feel like kids get so excited and they can't sleep, so at least give them something on Christmas Eve.

It's so cute because our mum has absolutely spoiled our son's rotten and she's been purchasing gifts all throughout the year, and she said that she went to wrap them and realize that real books.

So she's gotten so many things that she's now been giving them a few in the lead up to Christmas.

So she's got a book that she's already given Jack, I'm going to give Harry and Luca.

And then she knitted them each a Santa clause.

It's just the cutest thing ever.

And it's so funny because you line them up and they're all slightly different.

It reminds you of the three of us, like identical, but there's slight differences.

Oh, they're so cute.

I love them because my Nana made me one.

It's like exact same.

It's it's gorgeous.

We haven't even discussed how much you're spending on Jack compared to Luca and Harry.

I've realized, Oh my god, yeah, I know.

Well, I mean the thing is they're not really going to chat about what we got them this year, but I think that's important moving forward.

But one can't get a facking book and the other one's got like a car like nah pad.

Well, normally we set a budget like say, you know, oh, let's spend X amount on Harry and Luca.

Like, if I'm giving you a gift, you give one to Jack that's around the same price.

I'm so excited for the boys to open their gifts, even though like they can't really unwrap gifts, so this best on TikTok.

They're like, I've spent three hours wrapping presents via baby, and I'm going to be opening them all.

It's so true.

The other night I was like trying to perfectly wrap stuff and I'm like, this is just going to be ripped, Like, just get on with it.

Stop taking it so seriously.

But I do like wrapping things nicely.

I even sadly looked up on TikTok tips for wrapping, and then I'm like, this is just too pathetic.

I mean I did watch the Mega Marco special and she gave some good ones as well.

Oh just wrap a bottle of wine and a scuff.

Yeah.

We had a very specific question come through, Amy.

It's directed at you.

Someone asked, I'm still in the hunt for a Christmas snow globe with the moving train inside it that I saw in one of your stories.

Hahat, not a question, but I loved it.

Yes, I remember getting a message about this on my Instagram.

Did you not reply?

No, I replied, but they're not from Adelaide.

Oh so she can't get it.

Yeah, so it's from the Christmas Shop in Adelaide, which is on Goodwood Road.

At Believe Cumberland Park.

Oh that is the best shop.

Every year, I'm like, I'm going to go in there, but then I end up just driving pus Well.

I've told this story on the podcast, but for those who haven't heard it, I went in there the other day and this guy said that they had a couple come in and spend like I think it was like fifteenth dollars just on Christmas decorations in one hit.

Oh my god, that's insane.

Yeah, it was like getting huge nutcrackers and everything.

I dream to be that wealthy at Christmas time.

Like I'm not someone that's like all about money, but when it comes to Christmas time, I'm like, I wish I was wealthy because I would just love to go nuts on the Christmas decoration.

You know when they say, oh, if you ever won lottoh, there'd be signs.

Yeah, they would be like seven foot high nutcrackers about at the front of my house.

I think it's like a ten meter inflatable gingerbread man that looks like ginger Candy from Shrek.

I'd have that, would you?

I think that might be a bit garish.

Would you have someone come in to do your Christmas tree, like you know how Molly May's had her Christmas tree perfectly designed.

I was thinking about this the other day because I have Harry now, it took me forever to put my Christmas decorations up.

I actually think I would pay somebody and I'd have one tree that maybe i'd decorate myself.

See if you're filthy rich, though you probably have a nanny.

Oh no, I don't, Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, the thing is if you were, if you've got a nanny, then why would you feel bad about paying someone to decorate your house?

No?

But I like the Christmas tree out, But you're saying that I small things like, for example, Day has done an amazing job at the lights outside this year.

But would I pay a professional to do it next year to save Day?

If I won the lottery, of course I would.

Oh yeah, the thing, Oh yeah, I can't stand stringing up Christmas lights or taking them down.

And also like it's hard to store decorations.

So for example, the seven foot nutcrackers that I want.

I mean, I suppose if I won the lotter, i'd have a huge goal.

But they've probably rented.

Let's be honest, have you seen those mega rich people who they build a house and they specifically build a cupboard into the wall to wheel out their like ten meters high Christmas tree.

No, what do they keep the decorations on it?

Yes?

So it literally just I'm sure you've seen them.

No, they literally just push it back in.

It's like on wheels decorated.

It's amazing.

I okay, so this woman wasn't filthy rich, but it was just a regular Christmas tree.

But apparently she had like a thousand ornaments on it or something and she saw yeah, it must have seen something similar where you wrap the tree in clean wrap and then so you don't have to decorate it again.

I was like, don't like that, that's apparent.

That's a very I feel the tree would be all squashed.

It's like this year with Mum and Dad's Balsam Hill tree.

Dad accidentally folded the branches the wrong way and the tree looks a bit wo.

It kind of looks like and then what is it like the English Christmas tree.

I'm actually cut because I love my Christmas tree.

But I saw Sophie Jane Miller's got the real European fur one, and I'm like, I kind of wish I bought that, just a bit of a difference that as a secondary tree.

Yeah see, I'm so disappointed because I have a small Balsam Hill tree.

And Kate, you'll realize, I mean, my office is an absolute tip.

But you notice it's not up this year because whereas like cat Winnie, she's already chewed through one section of lights on our main Christmas tree and tried to like has Dale fixed her though not yet.

He's an electrician.

He'll be able to fix it, but he hasn't had time to fix it yet.

But I've got the little one and I was too scared to bring it in because she kept climbing in a So could you put it outside?

For Christmas?

We'll be putting it in a white party.

Okay, Well, I think that's where we're gonna wrap things up.

I think we would bloody talk about Christmas for another thirty minutes.

But I'm sure you've got things to do, things to cook.

Well, of course, I think you've definitely got things to do today.

I'll be running around the kitchen, I think, between looking after a small child.

I don't know if anyone actually picked up on it, but Kate and I have children.

We've become those annoying people that just talk about how hard it is to be a mum and having children.

I'm sure there are some other mums listening that are nodding their heads in experience.

Well, that is where we're going to leave things to day, but we hope you have an absolutely amazing Christmas.

We will be back in your years for a subs episode, so if you're desperate for content, that will be dropping on Thursday, which is Christmas Day.

So actually maybe we'll put out on Boxing Day.

Just I think probably you don't need an episode on Christmas Day, and we'll also be back in your ears next week with fresh episodes.

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