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Speaker 4He's gonna come back to that practice now, I know, but we're supposed to come back.
Speaker 3Evan doesn't actually move that fast, so.
Speaker 4No, you know, he's sort of like a three toad slot, isn't there.
He kind of battles around really looking forward to the start of the season.
I have no real interest whatsoever in that game tomorrow night, though.
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Evan, is that practice and locker room?
Speaker 2There's a lot going on.
Speaker 3You're going to be leaving for the locker of a twelve forty five, but you promised to be back for one thirty.
Speaker 4For the picks.
Speaker 5Absolutely not.
Speaker 3Misspis Alex is here in her custom made what ever?
That is?
Pullover jacket, jacket, wind breaker, full zip up, sure is yep?
Speaker 2Yeah, a lot of nineties Patriots.
Yeah's going on?
Speaker 3That is like eight that's the nineties.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, yeah, that's got nineties.
Like someone threw up on a coat kind of look.
Speaker 6Oh yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4Not insulting your offsulting style.
Threw up style that I grew up with.
I'm insulting myself.
Like you guys were like, well, you weren't really in on the bloodsort that.
Yeah, if you had to live it, you wouldn't be in on and either it's just nostalgic to you.
Speaker 7Right, It's like I think it's cool, and I'm a nineties kid, so.
Speaker 4It wasn't so cool when you had to actually wear it.
Speaker 2You've got the name on that.
Speaker 4Ironically, did you should.
Speaker 2Do that with like youth sports, you'd have like your jacket when you put your name on the side with your number and you get patches and stuff when you go to tournaments and things of that nature.
Speaker 3I didn't get the patches part.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was a hockey name, all the patches on your.
Speaker 3Back, name and number, Paul capped, oh caps, Oh yeah, game captain or.
Speaker 4Permanent, permanent, depending on what team it was.
Speaker 2Actually if the quarterback is the captain, usually yeah, that is true.
Speaker 3I made the varsity tennis team as a freshman, so I got my jacket, went to a dance and it got stolen who wants my jacket with my name on it?
Speaker 4Like you're going to say, who wants a jacket?
Speaker 3Well, I mean, you know, it was like the same one.
It was the same style that they gave to all the teams.
Speaker 4But it's just like a regular school lettermane fact that, Yeah, that's odd that someone would steal it.
Speaker 2Is a varsity athlete, right, They're like, you're not, well, it was.
Speaker 7Kind of so.
Speaker 6When I was in high school, the boys soccer team won States almost every single year, so it was like a big thing to be able to wear one of the boys.
Speaker 7Jackets to the game.
And if you got their varsity jacket.
Speaker 3And I did see anyone wearing my jacket.
I don't know what they did with it.
I think they were just with me.
Speaker 4That's what nailed it.
It was a girl, it wasn't.
Speaker 3I think they just threw it away wanted to be Freddy's.
Speaker 6Maybe he just left it like behind the couch and it fell and you forgot it.
Speaker 2No, he wouldn't forget it.
Speaker 6It was And I was in college and we would walk to parties in the winter and be freezing, so then we would stash our coat somewhere where it wouldn't get stolen after.
So it's like after the party, you're hammered and you're like going under the guy's couch.
Speaker 3To listen, listen under his young people listening.
If you're out high school?
Speaker 4One I thought thought we were still in high school walking away.
Speaker 3If you're out there, If you're out there, I'm going to find you eventually.
And cousin, I want that jacket back, all right?
Speaker 4So was that a big thing in high school?
Though?
The girls like who who was wearing?
Whose jacket?
Stuff?
Speaker 3I wore?
Speaker 7Curtis Pereira's, Oh, would get.
Speaker 4Wearing Curtis, I have curisky Tuscadero.
Speaker 7No, I don't think so it wasn't a big gum chore.
Speaker 3All right, let's let's talk football here.
Speaker 4I mean, it is the opener.
Speaker 3Yeah, we've got the Raiders coming up on Thursday.
And I know he did like this press conference or this conversation yesterday Stefan Diggs.
But besides all that, are we not excited enough that we have Stefan Diggs on this team and that he is gonna hopefully be Drake May's number one guy?
Speaker 2I'm excited.
Speaker 4You excited enough?
Speaker 2I'm excited.
Speaker 3It just seems like all I think we've kind of like downplayed it because we're afraid, like is he gonna play?
Is he not gonna play?
Speaker 7This is why we can't have night.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think that ended on July twenty, but.
Speaker 3I think I would.
I think we should be more excited about the fact that Stefan Diggs is going to be out there.
Speaker 2I think you're right, Fred, I mean, I know what you're getting at it.
It seems like we spend more time kind of like wondering if there's controversy going.
Speaker 4On, and just you know.
Speaker 2I mean, I've tried to bring it up a lot that I thought on the field, he looks really good.
I don't know how close he is to the old Steffan Diggs and what that might have looked like on the field, but from what I've seen from this wide receiver core over the six seasons that I've watched it, he looks pretty good.
He looks like the best receiver they've had in a long gun, and.
Speaker 3I think he should make everyone else.
I think you should make Hunter Henry better.
I think you should make the guys that we watched last year a little bit better.
I think he helps the offense in general.
Speaker 2Maybe it definitely should.
Speaker 3To an extent that we didn't see last year.
No one on this team that was here last year could do what he's gonna hopefully do this year, you know, And so I just think it's been downplayed because we're kind of holding our breath a little bit.
Speaker 2Yeah yeah, I mean, and he's coming off and.
Speaker 4They have a legitimate receiver for the first time in five years.
Speaker 2I mean, that's that's the bottom line for me.
I think what I've just enjoyed is it's easy to say a guy's really good, but when you watch him in practice, you start to see what the actual nuances are are of his game.
And I think it was Matt Collins talking about just the way he tempos routes and he slows down and he just he kind of has a weird style that's hard for defensive backs to kind of get a good read on, and it helps him be a master terrific.
Speaker 3He seems to have a good sense of that and how to get open, how to get open based on what he's seeing on the field.
Speaker 2And I still think when we saw him in some of those early team drills in Minnesota that it looked like he decided, all right, I'll turn it around for a little bit, you know here in the preseason and you know, just see how things are feeling because just was uncoverable there and you know those those are drills, it's not real.
But I just I feel like there's a good chance he comes out of the gate and it's just it's really good right out of the gate immediately there there's a connection there and he's the engine to the offense and the gotta have it moments.
Speaker 3Yeah.
So, I mean I was listening to what he was having to say yesterday and you know, having to do with Tom and Phil from NBC Sports, you know, but all that aside, I'm thinking to myself, Stefan Diggs is the new England Patriot and Drake May is going to be throwing to him.
And I know when we signed him it was a big but like it seems to have like really tapered off, and I think we need to be a little bit more excited about that.
That's just me.
Speaker 4I know Paul doesn't care the message from well, I just I don't.
I don't really know where that I'm not gonna get into the hole I was rated or not rated, Like, I feel like people are properly excited that they have a legitimate everything.
Mike' said, they have a guy who can get open.
He's a great road runner, always has been.
They haven't had this, they haven't had I don't know what the proper level of excitement is to, you know, to satisfy your needs.
But I think everybody was recognizing the wide receiver room is better because Stefan Diggs is here.
Speaker 3But right, I agree with that.
But like when I hear, you know, people on your shows and other shows talk about who they think, what's you know, what they think is going to happen in the game, who they think is going to win, It's like Diggs is an afterthought.
Speaker 4It's like, you know, to me yesterday when I was given basically Digs, Well, I know.
Speaker 2It's a different situation.
But when Randy Moss didn't really practice all summer, did you feel like we were they were sleeping on him a little?
Speaker 3It's a good point.
We had no I mean, we saw in practice the difference of Randy Moss, but then we didn't see him for the whole summer.
Speaker 4No one knew what we were going to get for.
Speaker 3We didn't know that was going to be like that.
Speaker 4That would be like if Gonzales just played on on Sunday and passes right.
Seriously, That's that's how little we saw of Randy Moss in training camp.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, I hear your point though, but I just think it's you know, it's hard because they've limited him a little bit, and you know he hasn't been out there every team period and you know, so you've only seen him in little little burst.
But I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4My only question with Diggs is not about his availability.
It's not about his ability to run routes and all that stuff.
You're going to get the digs of the last two or three years.
Are you going to get like a flashback digs of this big play guy who's you know, making big plays down the field, stretching the field.
I don't.
I don't think you're going to get that one.
I think you're going to get the one of you know, the high volume, low yard with that.
Yeah, i'd say, like I said, it's a better receiver than they've.
Speaker 3Had for forever.
Speaker 4Yeah, since Edelman retired.
Speaker 2Yeah, on like one knee too, Like yeah.
Speaker 4I wouldn't even say since nineteen, you know whatever, it was twenty Like nineteen was the last time he was a semblance of himself.
Yeah, well it's twenty five.
That's a long time ago.
Speaker 3So I just want to throw that out there and see if anyone agrees with me that, like, oh, yeah, we've got Stefan Diggs.
Oh yeah, hell yeah, we've got Steffan Diggs.
Let's go about that, Okay.
Speaker 4Like that's the part I would they have Stefan Diggs.
I think everybody's talking about him all the time.
I don't know what you think Stefan Diggs is going to be.
Speaker 3Well, I feel like I think he's going to be a thousand yard receiver.
Speaker 4Right, that's what I I kind of agree with Frans Great, but he's a fifteen hundred yard receiver in his career and now he's a thousand yard.
Speaker 3On this team.
I'll take that.
I'm excited about that me too.
Speaker 4I just don't know what.
Maybe it's not as properly excited.
Speaker 3Like you're ready to poo poo it unless he has fifteen hundred yard.
Speaker 4I'm poo pooing you thinking that no one cares.
I think that's all anybody talks about.
Speaker 6I think that some members of the media are like trying to temper people's expectations to Like I've experienced this myself.
People have in the media have asked me how's Digs been, and I say, he's wonderful to work with.
Everything people have told me about him being like a drama, like one of those elite wide receiver mentalities, I just haven't seen it personally.
He showed up to more community events with Donna during the preseason than anyone on this team, including veterans, and I was just expressing that, like, I've been super pleasantly surprised he's great to work with, and everyone's like, oh, well, yeah, there's a honeymoon period, like oh well, just wait, just wait, And I'm like, why can't we just be like, oh cool, that's really great that he seems to be a good guy off the field and kind of just defying people's expectations that they had of him coming in.
Speaker 4Yeah, so so is Alex properly excited?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 5Good?
Speaker 3I like him.
Speaker 7I think he's great.
Speaker 2I like him too.
Speaker 3I was.
Speaker 7It's not about liking him, it's just like, no, I'm fired up.
Speaker 4Yeah, I don't really care about.
Speaker 7It, just looks different when he's running around.
Speaker 6His ability to change direction, change speed, and how smooth he.
Speaker 7Makes it look like.
It's it's really special.
Speaker 4To watch totally.
Speaker 2It's not something where, yeah, he's like Trayvon Henderson.
He's just faster than everybody else and he's strong and there's some nuance to that.
But you watching Stefan Diggs in practice, it would be hard, I think to be Maybe it's why he wasn't drafted high.
Like it's just there's such a subtleness to what makes him so good.
And we saw it time and time again with Josh Allen and third down and the windows like that, and it's just right there and he get that two feet in and first down keep going.
I hope those are the kind of places because that, to me, fred is what will make the biggest difference for Drake is just having that guy that isn't easy to defend and gives defenses something to think about, even if it's not as much as it once was.
It's going to help guys like Pop Douglas.
It's going to help guys hopefully you know, like Booty and Hollands on the outside, and hopefully open things up in the middle a little bit.
Speaker 3Yep.
Speaker 8Uh.
Speaker 3So the first practice participation report came out yesterday, very small, thankfully, although Gonzo was on it as did not participate, So he ain't playing.
I don't think that's just my take, but he's not playing.
Efton Chisholm popped up on it with a knee and he put, you know, somewhat participated, not full participation.
Speaker 4But oh I thought he was full.
Speaker 3Oh no, you're right, Yes he was full, but he.
Speaker 4Was with the next knee injury Minnesota.
Speaker 3Yeah, he was up there with full.
Speaker 2Yeah.
And then he's just a new guy at the cornerback that they acquired.
Got a concussion, Yeah, like two injuries.
Speaker 4Somehow maybe, yeah, I shouldn't say somehow.
No, did he come after the Yeah, he came after the preseason game.
Yes, he must have gotten that practice edition.
What you guys are doing out there?
Speaker 3So according to that sheet of paper, Patriots are in pretty good shape healthwise.
Speaker 2I mean, Gonzales is a big piece.
Yeah, but overall, you get out of training camp without one of those catastrophic lost somebody for the season kind of injuries.
Speaker 4Well, and that's the thing is, I don't know, if you look around the league a little bit because all the injury reports always pop up, you know, this time of year, and they're all really small because anybody who got a catastrophic injury is on ir right, They're out there not on the reports, right, And the guys that are, you know, obviously you're just dealing with a couple of injury.
You know, you're going to start the season relatively healthy.
Interestingly, like Sean Slater as an example for the charges catastrophic injury for LA.
Yeah, but he's not going to be on their injury reports.
Speaker 2I would be interesting to do a study where you just went the average number of players on the injury report by week and you could track it.
What's it look like in week one?
You know, how do those injury reports?
Is there like a spike at a certain point or is it just kind of continually going up as the attrition adds up.
Speaker 4I didn't pretend to see all of them, but I probably saw maybe four or five.
And I don't think I saw more than four or so players any one team listed makes sense.
Speaker 2I mean, those guys are by November, they're like everybody's dealing something.
Speaker 4Well, the Patriots, you know, we end up with like fifteen guys on the report by November yep.
So everybody's dealing with something.
Speaker 3Yep, including us yep.
Speaker 4So that came out Sciatica just putting all that junk out in the driveway.
Speaker 3Yet you slip the disc today, Obviously they'll be out there practicing in shells.
Yesterday was the one day they'll they'll be in pads.
So they'll be in shells today and tomorrow and you'll be out there for.
Speaker 2Yeah, we'll go to that and yeah, we'll go out tomorrow for sure, and we'll see.
Yeah.
Like I said yesterday, we talked to Rabel afterwards, So I mean, well, no afternoon tomorrow, really good chance.
If Gonzal is probably not going to play, I would the way Mike Rable has been upfront with us, I would guess that he's probably going to just tell you.
So, yeah, it's a loss, and hopefully they can get them back.
I mean, it's that seems like it's asking a lot.
We haven't seen him in over a month now, at saying oh we can't play this Sunday, but hopefully he can play in ten days.
That still seems maybe asking a lot, but maybe he's able to get back out there next week and get out there in Miami.
Speaker 3Yeah, he and Roman Holiday, can you know, get on the phone and talk.
Speaker 2About things tissue muscle injuries.
Speaker 3Yeah, that stinks for the Red Sox and for me oblique.
Yeah, it's excited anyway.
All right, so back to football.
All right, So we've got getting excited about Diggs.
Yes, except football.
Speaker 4I'm just trying to make sure I show it a proper level.
I don't want to get chest high.
You know, Mike's a defense guy, so he doesn't really get as excited about offense.
And no, plus he doesn't like I like tackling.
Speaker 3Healthy team going into Week one.
As you know, like Paul said, most teams are who do you think is going to be the guy on defense, Mike, since you're the defensive guy that will be leading the way tomorrow, I mean on Sunday, is it Splaine?
Speaker 2Yeah?
I mean I think generally it's it's it's him.
I would hope that maybe it's Harold Landry or Chase on like just getting after Joey Smith and putting pressure on him.
But as I've been telling everybody who doesn't follow the Patriots all that closely, and maybe they just turn in for week one, I'd say, just be ready for number fourteen in the middle of the defense, because it just looks different and certainly is like a blogger guy who spent so much time with people getting kind of frustrated with defenses in the past, I would say, like just the speed of the defenses.
I think that's been a theme over the last ten years or so.
There was always a desire to find that sideline to sideline middle linebacker.
I mean, you know, just Devin Lloyd pops into my head, even as recently as a few years ago, talking about just trying to get faster at that position.
And I think you've really seen this year that this is a this is a totally different kind of a defense.
And you know, how is Christian Ellis going to fit in too?
I was going back watching a little bit of some of the games last year and just you know, seeing him go in when Jawan Bentley went out I think in Week two, I mean he got thrust right into the fire and remembering his journey of really being a special teams guy.
Watched a little of the Eagles America's game last night.
They talked to Zach Bond, who was kind of the poster child for making a jump from special teams too.
I mean, that's an enormous jump that Zach Bond made.
But I just want those two guys I think in the middle's gonna be most visible, making a lot of the plays, making a lot of the tackles and hopefully impact plays behind the line of scrimmage, plays on the ball.
Think if Splain and Ellis are making those kind of plays, then it'll it'll bold really well for the defense.
Speaker 3What part of uh Gino's game do the Patriots have to be most aware of?
It's the short game?
Is it taking shots down field?
Is it?
Speaker 2I just haven't.
I mean, this is I haven't.
That's a good question.
Like my first thought is I'm so concerned about Rock Bauers and Jacoby Myers that maybe you're sleeping on Dante Thornton Amari Cooper, who's back there now as well.
I know he's close to the end, but still I think he's a guy who can still play a little bit.
And Trey Turner, those guys with the speed the ball downfield.
And I know last year was some blown coverages here with Seattle that Gino hit on, But I.
Speaker 4Just don't think you can give up Big Tucker's the guy that he plays so like to your point, like, you know, get him downfield.
Trey Tucker can get down the field and you have a couple.
I think you rolling the dice a little bit with your safeties.
Yeah, So I don't think the Raiders are going to come bombs away.
I think I talked about this yesterday.
I would be very surprised if Pete Carroll didn't want to come out and establish the run.
I think that helps the Patriots, even if they're able to do it, because I think he keeps the score down and doesn't force Drake May to have to get in a shootout.
And you know week one it's got to be all on the offense right away.
Well, I don't think it'll have to be.
I think you can win this game sort of in the low twenties, and I think that's ideal for where the Patriots are right now.
You don't want to have to have a thirty four to thirty one win.
I mean, you'll take a win no matter how you get it, obviously, and I'd probably be more excited about a thirty four to thirty one win than I would.
Speaker 3But don't you think doing that lower Caro is helping the Patriots.
Speaker 4I just literally just said that, So why does the heat wouldn't he test?
That's what he wants to do.
He wants to run the ball.
Speaker 3I think he wants to win the game, and he.
Speaker 4Wants to do that by running the ball.
That's how he plays.
That's what Marshawn Lynch and the whole let Russ Cook thing in Seattle.
That's what he's going on of.
He wants to run the ball.
That's how he wants to win games.
He's won a lot of games.
I don't know doing that.
And the Patriots biggest weakness on paper on the defense is run defense.
So it's not like it's a dumb theory.
Speaker 3I'll be surprised if they don't test the Patriots early downfield.
Speaker 4I'd be shocked if they stop going bombs away.
Speaker 3I mean, I don't mean like every other I mean, but.
Speaker 4They might throw one pass like twenty five yards downfield in the whole game, but it'll be Trey Tucker.
That's the guy that they want to get.
Speaker 3I disagree with that.
Speaker 4I don't think that that's the way that Gino Smith plays.
I don't think he's a downfield passer.
Speaker 3I think he's more of an under mean, if Pete Carroll, what do you.
Speaker 4I just have you watched Pete Carroll coach at all?
Speaker 3Huh?
Like I haven't watched him coach this team.
Speaker 4Okay, so I haven't either.
So you seem to know what they're going to do.
I don't.
I just assume he's going to do what Pete Carroll has done in his other teams.
But I haven't seen him coach the Raiders.
I mean, they did draft a running back with the sixth overall pick.
The guy likes to run the ball.
I mean, I'm just making an assumption.
I might be wrong.
I've never seen him coach the Raiders.
Speaker 3But the attention paid on genty opens things.
I just think keep a straight face.
I just think he's crazy if he doesn't, if he doesn't stretch the Patriots and try to test.
Speaker 4Why where's the strength of the Patriots defense?
Is the secondary?
I don't even know that it's supposed to be the secondary.
Speaker 3That's why everybody's.
Speaker 4Beating me over the head with all you The linebackers are thin, the defensive line.
Speaker 3Is secondary is supposed to be good?
Is because of Gonzales.
Speaker 4Yes, I understand the missing Gonzales, but there's still the strength is in the secondary.
How do you According to all of the experts that have talked to me, I'd like.
Speaker 3To see it first.
Speaker 4And if I'm there, very thin at linebacker and they're very small up front, so run the ball.
Speaker 3I don't know, man, I I would test it.
Speaker 2I would not Pete Carroll.
I mean, I think you us change.
You're going a rookie safety back there and Jas and maybe Alex Austin.
I just you asked me what scares me the most.
It's that I do think that Paul's.
Speaker 4Scare me the most.
But I would have different safeties playing, but they're not on the roster anymore, so I can't do that.
Speaker 3All the more reason for Pete Carroll to test it.
Speaker 4That's not how we wants to.
Speaker 3Play the stuff that you know.
He knows too, but he.
Speaker 4Doesn't want to play that way.
And Gino Smith certainly doesn't want to throw the ball downfield.
He doesn't do that.
You certainly didn't do it when Seattle came here last year.
He threw for three hundred yards.
Was one big play that they blew a coverage on the metcalf.
Everything else was j just n across the middle.
He had like double digit catches in that game, right, Yeah, fifteen yard incuts, you know, five yard shallow crossers trying to pick plays.
Speaker 2Now, you're making me feel better about the Patriots.
Not that I mean, I think the Patriot's gonna win, but it's making me feel better if they're not willing to test the Patriots.
I agree, without questians all, I hope that's the case.
I'm a little worried about Craig Woodson in his first start, and you know, going against the coordinator like Chip Kelly, maybe that changes their approach a little bit.
I mean, I think Paul is right.
I think both teams are going to want early in the season.
Speaker 4Just they're gonna want it on the ball, you know.
And I think it's a mistake, don't pull it all on your on your quarterback.
Speaker 2But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4I'm not a scam plan if I were coaching, but I'm not the coach.
Speaker 3I don't.
Speaker 2I don't really feel bad about the Patriots run defense.
I just don't really know what to expect exactly.
Like I'm not like worried about it, Like if I had to say, what are you more worried about.
I would say it's hard for me to really get worked up about run defense, like you know, like.
Speaker 4You can say it's the thing, you can say it well ahead because it doesn't matter right.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, you know, generally speaking, that.
Speaker 4Football because they couldn't stop the run, despite the fact that really stopping the run is not that much of an indicator of a team's success.
Speaker 2Kenny Clark to help them out with that.
Yeah, so, I it's a great question.
I mean, look, it's just it's everything in Week one where you just have all these new coaches, these new schemes, these new players.
It's all it's a mix of of so much and it's hard to really discern what the attack is going to be.
All I know is what I've seen from the Patriots this year, And if I was the Raiders, I would be trying to get gente on screens and I would I would have Bowers in the crossas the whole time.
And I'm sure that they will do that.
That's why it's I just don't want them to sleep on Thornton and Tucker.
Speaker 4I think Mike is that's it.
I think Mike's game plan.
Is it that to me is running the ball by the way genty on screens and yeah, sure, short throws to Bowers.
That's basically an extension of the running game.
But especially the screens, because I.
Speaker 2Mean, if I'm reading what people are writing about the Patriots defense this summer, I'm expecting an aggressive defense that you're not going to be able to drop back and launch it.
You got to hope that over the course of the beginning of the game that the screens and the short stuff and the running at genty gets the Patriots defense so locked up on that that you know, you got a rookie Craig Woodson who all of a sudden, here goes Trey Tucker right by you, and you know that.
To me, you're gonna win a low scoring game.
If you can prevent that, then I think you have a chance to.
But if you start giving up even just a couple of big plays, I mean you mentioned the big scu Hey, let me the DK metcalf that changed.
Speaker 3Let me ask it.
Let me ask this question.
You're Mike Vrabel.
You've got three days, three four days left before the game.
Which side of the ball are you most paying attention to?
Right?
Now for you, for my own, for my own team, for my own team, whose meetings are you attending more m offense?
Speaker 2I think you he trust Terrell Williams, and I mean not to say he doesn't trust Josh mctaniels, but I just I think you have to trust your defense, but you have to believe your offense can win the game.
And that's where I would no matter what happens with our defense, if we score on off points, we're gonna win the game.
So I'd lean offense, right.
Speaker 3I think he's gonna lean defense.
I think he's gonna put his thumbprint on this game more on defense than offense.
And let Josh cook Yeah, I mean, what do you think, Paul?
Speaker 6I think to go either way because a lot of the guys he brought in on defense are like his guys, So maybe there's that level of comfortability where he's like, Okay, I don't need to spend as much time here because they understand like my system.
Yeah, so let me go over here.
But I but it could go.
Speaker 3No, You're right about his guys, But in doing so, I think he has a vision for this defense, whereas the offense is probably going to be more Josh's vision.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying, Fred.
I just I think that there's more.
If I'm a head coach, there's more for me to say.
All right, So what are we doing on third down?
If they bring Crosby and Butler over here and they're gonna be running stunts off this office side with our two rookies that that are expected to start, You know, that's a big concern to me.
You know, how much are we going to play Diggs?
Is he ready to go every snap?
And we want, you know, which would be good for the offense?
I think to have him out there always as a threat.
How are we going to rotate guys in?
Do we need to is is Morgan Moses on a pitch count?
Does he Is he going to need to you know, take some snaps off?
Or we're gonna have to put in Marcus Bryan in there for a little bit.
You know, like all those question how are we gonna justvon?
We don't want to put him in a bad position.
So I don't know that's to me.
I mean maybe that's just how I'm wired.
Because the defense, I feel like I trust Robert Splaine, I trust these these veterans that I have to go after it, and it's an aggressive scheme, go attack.
Like there's not a lot to say, but there's a lot of in my mind, variables on offense that you need to manage.
Speaker 3Do you think this this game will be declared early?
Not not who's gonna win or not, but the style of the game.
Speaker 2I'm going to say no.
I'm going to say it's a weird Week one game where you know there's ebbs and flows, and you know, maybe a weird turnover, and you know there just might be some sloppiness that ever prevents you from really getting a beat on.
This is what this game is, right, I mean, maybe it will, but I just expect some weird swings.
Speaker 4I totally agree with the Week one stuff that Belichick always talked about, but I do feel both teams are going to want to run the ball.
Fred I, if I were I agree with you, I would want to throw the ball.
But that's me virtually every game.
I think, if I want to try to score points, that's how you do Dan Pastorini.
Yeah, but get a lead and then you want to run the ball to put the game away, like do it the other way.
So many teams want to come out and take pressure off their quarterback.
I think it does the opposite.
I think it creates a lot of third and eights for your quarterback that you exactly what you don't want to be in.
Whereas you know, nice little play action pass for like seven yards on first down, that's taking the pressure off your quarterback, giving him an easy throw to get ahead of the chains, and then you're you know, making easier conversions on third downs.
That's how I think you take pressure off your quarterback.
And I think a lot of times teams do it the other way.
They try to run the ball and play defense and conservative.
Now you're in a low scoring slug fest, and I kind of think it's going to declare to something like that.
Speaker 2Yeah, it might be hard to determine, but I'm just interested to see how Drake is different with Josh and his ear and going through stuff with him.
It seems like it'll be a very different game experience for Drake, not just because Josh will be in his ear, but having to make calls and a little bit more on his plate.
Does it change his style at all?
Getting hard at discern, I don't really not sure how you would you excited.
Speaker 3This is like, you know, I guess it's like that this every year.
Speaker 4But yeah, I get checked up for the start of every season.
I absolutely do.
Speaker 3But you know, there's so much unknown here.
I mean, it's all kind of new.
Speaker 2And that's why I felt going through the games this weekend over the whole across the whole league, where it's just so many teams that are evenly matched or have really i mean the Jets and the Steelers like flip flop quarterbacks.
You know, there's so many weird things like that going on.
It's just it's so hard to make a prediction what's going to happen.
I'm like, this is a chemistry experiment.
Speaker 4I don't know, it's like the old the old exercise in school when you know you're you're asked to sort of make an argument for two things.
You know, make time to shine there, make an argument for the Giants being a playoff.
Speaker 2I mean, I've heard I've heard people.
Speaker 4Talk about the Giants as being but then at the same time, they have on paper, the most difficult schedule in football, So you know, make an argue and against it.
Well that's it.
You know, they don't really have the solved their quarterback yet even if Jackson Dart ends up being the starter, you know, so like you could do that with so many.
Speaker 3Teams up and down the league.
Yeah, yeap.
So it's exciting and I love you.
Just want to see how it all unfolds.
Speaker 4Because as little as I'm interested in divisional matchups like Dallas and Philly, tonight, I'll be glued.
At eight o'clock, I'll be you know whatever, A twenty start is it Like, I'll be ready to go have a great match.
I can't wait.
Yeah, the title Now, I don't know if I'll make it to the second half.
I hear that, the second second half.
Speaker 3I hear that.
All right, So you.
Speaker 7Sound like a seven pm coffee.
Speaker 3Oh we're all excited.
Anyone have anything special plan for tonight?
Not chows.
Speaker 4I don't have anything special plan.
Speaker 3Also, I think I might have to get you going.
Speaker 7I gave you a little your recipe for you.
I wasn't really a small I might have you like right up a rescue.
Speaker 6Like ingredients like I need that for the newsletter.
Speaker 4I think today it would have been perfect if you could have actually seen me do it.
It was literally I know exactly why I was I was starving, and was it all in the house.
I was starving.
I'm like, there wasn't even any real chipsty like just the tosedos.
So I grabbed them and I'm like, I just dumped the whole thing out because I was like, I'm not going to put a handful.
I'm just gonna dump the whole thing.
And I'm like, I hope we didn't hurt anybody.
So and then I'm like looking into refrigerating this like shredded cheese.
Speaker 7There you go, even like Mexican.
Speaker 4It was, it was, it was.
And then I got some salsa and like put like spoonfuls here in there.
Speaker 2Tues after school in high school, snack all day long, microwave nachos.
Speaker 4I put them in the actual oven, convection regular oven.
Speaker 3But like your oven isn't all so a convection oven, I don't think.
So there's no button that says convection.
Speaker 4I don't think so many are most are now.
Speaker 7You just probably don't.
Speaker 4Yeah, what would be the difference?
Speaker 3It circulates air while it's baking, So Mike, so holy Cross.
Speaker 2Every once in a while, I don't know if me, if I are finishing each other's sentences.
Speaker 3Yet yeah, okay.
Speaker 2Air fire too were pretty good with that.
Speaker 3A lot of people swear by the air fry.
Speaker 4So the air fryer, to me, would not have made enough nachos.
Speaker 3For my liking I size cookie.
Speaker 4I had a cookie sheet going oh yeah, well listen, and then I made a couple of sandwiches and handleton listen.
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So yeah, I might.
I might pop some tostitos in the oven tonight.
Speaker 2I love a good nacho plate.
There is just I order one off the appetizer menu a lot at the restaurant.
Speaker 3Sometimes I have a restaurant and for my meal I'll.
Speaker 4If and I will get nachos a lot, just you know, if we're like, you know, not a fancy place, but just you know, real quick to get an app and we'll pick that nachos better than others.
Speaker 3You have to be able to figure out how to get the cheese layered so that it's not all.
Speaker 7Making it is the best.
I go all.
Speaker 4Out, like I didn't do it right then.
Speaker 6Now my garden if I don't or show the store because I think actually the pickled ones are the best in the jar for nacho purposes.
Yeah, but like stick back exactly and then you just like layer it, you know, like every ingredient.
Speaker 2Make your own chips.
I'll do that.
I'll make my own chips.
Speaker 6I've done it with my mom.
I've done it with my mom.
But it's too much business.
Speaker 5It is a lot of bits.
Speaker 7But I got a small kitchen.
Speaker 4This guy make your own making his own chips.
Speaker 2Just take a tortilla, cut it up, fry it up, and some.
Speaker 4Fry and I think I've done something.
This guy's making his own shop.
Speaker 2Well, spend some time in California, you know, yeah, the quality.
Speaker 6Well, today is a big day because in Hartford Connecticut.
It's the Lake Cruise Ahouse sale.
I have my friend ground right now, all the stuff on my wish.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, what the great they had a great Dutch of him.
Speaker 7A Dutch of it is not when you under the I do.
Speaker 3That's the only Dutch of it.
I know what a Duch of it is.
Speaker 4I do all that to say.
Speaker 6My friend just secured a really like heavy bottom, nice casserole dish for me in the color shower.
Speaker 3It is a color.
Speaker 6Yeah, it's like a light, beautiful purple like the outside of a shallotte would be.
And uh yeah, so I was looking for an excuse to use it tonight.
Speaker 7I didn't know what to make them.
Speaker 2Yeah, I can't keep track of all the different kind of Yeah.
Speaker 3I was never a big walk pearl.
Love it.
Speaker 2I love it.
And uh sorry I'm dragging this on.
But my wife just made this new thing where it's avocado cattage cheese, there's pickles in it cilantro and it's this little salad and it was so California.
Speaker 4You are so California though, all right.
Speaker 3Natcho Talk eight five five past five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot Com.
Jacket and Arbor says a Paul Wore a TV show, it'd be entitled Curb Your Enthusiast.
I'm very excited to see the new England Patriots debut of Stefan Diggs.
He's the best receiver to wear a Patriot's uniform in years.
He will keep defenses honest by stretching the field and give Drake May a reliable weapon in red zone and third down situations.
Speaker 4I don't know about I told you, Fred, that's the way people are thinking.
That's okay, Jack and and Arbor, thank you, Okay.
People are excited.
They haven't really had a top receiver in a long time.
Speaker 3I agree.
I agree.
Speaker 4I'm hearing people talk, you know, like sort of finger wagging the media for not giving the wide receiver group in general enough props.
And I keep poo pooing it by saying, what do you got after Diggs?
Speaker 3Yeah, well, like, okay, so let's talk about it.
Speaker 4But that's but that's my point is there's a lot of excitement for Diggs.
Speaker 3What should we be expecting from mac Collins.
Speaker 2I think he's gonna have a good year.
I mean, he's been incredibly productive in the preseason.
He's one another one of those kind of X factors to me, and I get Paul's point.
I think where I land on all this wide receiver talk is just is there enough there for Drake to improve and to make a push and to compete.
I think there is right now.
I don't think that you're gonna come out of the season.
We just don't know because he no, I agree with me, No, I think there's enough there still.
Speaker 4I think that has been eliminated with the sign of Stefan Diggs.
Yeah, I agree with Mike.
Speaker 2You set up Drake to take a step forward.
I think that's the best you can do.
They still need more.
I'd love to see Kyle Williams get out there and see what he can develop into.
But going back to your original question, I think Matt Collins will bring a presence on the outside and will be I'm just saying it now.
And Raiders, if you're listening, tune.
Speaker 4Out right now.
Speaker 2But like every first down from the thirty ind they're gonna be a fade to Mac Collins.
Like I feel like that's just in Josh's DNA, even going back to his last time where you just knew, like DeVante Parker back then, like here we go, here comes the shots to the end zone.
That's what they're gonna do, MATC Collins, they'll probably have a you know, five six touchdowns.
Speaker 3I would BET's size, you know, he's.
Speaker 4Yeah, he's a different kind of receiver, but I think he takes the boorn role, like that sort of secondary guy that can be productive.
Different kind of player.
Born is quicker, smaller, you know, in Hollins, I think is a little bit more straight line speed with the size.
Yeah, so totally different kind of players, but veteran complimentary piece.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, I just like that he'll bring a presence on the outside.
I think it's something they need.
Speaker 3Well, Kyle Williams play in this game, Yeah.
Speaker 4I think I think so.
Speaker 2I mean, I know, I didn't expect a lot of people to play.
I mean I meant that in like crunch time, but I think a lot of a lot of people will will play, you know, the key on Whites of the world, the Anthony Jennings of the world.
You know, I'm most curious about Dougar.
Just tell me what what what does that look like?
Does he have a role on defense or does he just get like some rotational snaps to you know, get Hawkins or Woodson some time out.
Speaker 3All right, A five five past five hundred.
Let's go to the phones.
We'll start with Sean and Vancouver.
What's up Sean?
Speaker 9Hey, guys, I'm looking forward to being at the game.
Speaker 3I guess so you've been on hold since yesterday.
Speaker 10That's great.
Speaker 9So I'm excited about Diggs and it's it's looking better than because when he's signed, I thought, Okay, he'll probably be on the pop to start the season, and now he's going he should be ready for Game one, and uh, that's that's really great.
One thing, and I don't know if I'm going to be right, but one thing I kind of have a feeling about is Digs little lead in yards, but I think, uh, pop will lead in in receptions.
Does that sound crazy to you?
I'll let you go so that I know you.
You got to hurry, so enjoy it.
Speaker 3Okay, I hear what you're saying.
But I think that if Diggs leads in yards, he will also be leading in receptions because I don't think his catches are going to be you know, the long form like the old Digs.
I think there'll be more of the crossers and shallow stuff, and so in order to get you know, the yards, he's going to need a lot of receptions.
Speaker 2I think I generally, I think I generally agree with that.
I'd see it more as Edelman and Amadola and you know, can Pop Douglas chip in in key spots as a second kind of slot guy.
I think that's a good role for now.
Speaker 3When you look at Edelman and Amadola, Adla's probably yards per catch was more than Edelman's, I would.
Speaker 4Say, yeah, I mean, I mean was similar, But yeah, I think the volume overall of you know, Edelman's definitely the engine, got to have a moment, but you know, you have a secondary, reliable guy in Pop Douglas that can probably get open pretty quick and you know, give you that quick ball, get it out, quick game stuff that I think will mostly go to Diggs.
Yeah, I agree.
I think Diggs will lead in both receptions and yards provided that he stays healthy.
Obviously a big, big if, but I would be surprised if he's not the the leading target guy, which is going to lead to more catches, more yards.
Speaker 3Let's see Brian's in Lowell.
What's up Brian?
Brian going on Lowell?
Phones are down and lowell.
All right, maybe try to call back.
Eldred's on the phone.
What's up?
Aldred?
Speaker 8Hey, Alex, Fred, Mike, how y'all doing good?
Speaker 2Hell?
Speaker 3Paul?
Speaker 8Hey, hey Paul?
You look wrong?
Bro?
He like throwing it too.
Yeah, he little roung with Carol.
He likes running it, but that ain't the only way he likes winning.
Speaker 4Okay, we'll see.
Speaker 8I'm I'm more questioned about the secondary without Gunzo.
And if I think Evan said yesterday that Dante had a good, good camp with them, that's what That's the other reason I wanted.
But everybody passed on.
I'm just going about to speak because he got to work running Brunning by the secondary Donte Thornton for the Raiders.
That's what I'm worried.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, all right, I'll let you go with that.
All right, thanks Aldred?
All right, and he give us a prediction I should have asked.
All right, Now let's go to Christian in l A.
Speaker 11Yeah.
Speaker 10Hey you guys, Hey, you know, I'm not so certain why you While you guys are so excited like it so sort of sunshine and rainbows, I'm actually worried.
We we are going into week number one, with the offensive line that is unproven and untested, with a guy on the left who's got kind of short arms.
That's when against Mac Tarby, Max Crubbs is gonna line up, line up and go at him all day.
We have a quarterback who forgive me for saying patriot Land is unproven and unknown.
Yet it's easy for a guy who has some decent skills and no one has Taypon to get in for four or five games at the end of the season and do decently.
We have not seen him do decently in our our preseason in practice, I haven't heard anything super positive about Drake MAYBERSI oh yeah, he's really comfortable and he looks like we have a wide receiving number one who could possibly be washed up, a wide receiving number two.
Speaker 4I don't watch Christian.
Can I just ask you something and also stop for Kenny.
Would would you feel better if you were hearing stuff that was positive or would you wait until you saw it yourself.
Speaker 10Hearing something like?
Speaker 4You know, see, I completely disregard people when they tell me stuff like that if I haven't seen it, Like I'm going to watch a game, you know, like I'm sorry, I just don't necessarily believe.
Like if I were to believe what I'm hearing from ESPN about Cleveland all year, I would think should Do a Sanders is on the verge of a Pro Bowl season, But yet he's listed at like fourth on the depth chart by the people that are actually doing the stuff for Cleveland.
So it doesn't make me feel better if I'm a should Do a Sanders fan that ESPN is saying all these wonderful things about shed with Sanders when Cleveland doesn't think he's better than any of the guys on their office.
Dylan Gabriel is ahead of them on the depth chart, and I don't think that much of Dylan Gabriel.
So I don't know why, like someone saying something would affect your ination.
And I think you're being ingenuous because I think if we were saying all these nice things, you'd be saying that we're just doing sunshine and rainbows and trying to put lipstick on a page.
Speaker 3But I think Christian, I understand that a lot of this is unknown, but that's kind of what makes me excited.
It's like I don't know about the intrigue, right.
Speaker 10Right, You guys don't worry that our number one cornerback it's not going to be there.
Speaker 4Of course we're are so worried.
Speaker 3So why all the false bravado.
Speaker 4Where's the false bravado coming.
Speaker 3It's not like we're sitting up here, go Patriots by fifth fifty.
Speaker 4That would be false.
Come on, this game could go away.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's ridiculous.
I'm walking out right now.
Speaker 4All right, Mike, I don't blame you, Mike, Mike, I don't blame you at all.
Speaker 3To the locker room holy cross.
All right.
Speaker 4No, in all seriousness, this game is a toss up game.
We've been talking all week that it was like two and a half point spread.
I think right now, let a little cat out of the bag for this will make you feel better.
It's up to three.
Okay, the line move from two and a half to three.
That means people are betting the Patriots right and wanting to just stop you before you did something right to hurt yourself.
Where's the money money's coming in?
So this game could go either way.
I think ESPN's FPI thing that does the game says the Patriots have a fifty two percent chance of winning.
I like it, so like take it.
That's a coin for so No, there's no false bravado.
No, that's just trolling.
He's like, no one is sitting here saying Patriots forty eight to eleven.
Speaker 3Like that's false perv.
That's why I let him go.
Speaker 4This could go This game could go either way.
It was the call with some of us on this show are not even picking the Patriots to win?
Is that right?
Speaker 3Well we'll find out around one thirty who that might be.
All right, I'm gonna take a break.
Christian's phone call made me hungry when we come back and calls and emails and uh what else?
Whatever else we do?
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Speaker 15Wait, I'll wait all this time.
Speaker 4Out of there.
Speaker 15Good a man away, Good, good, good.
Speaker 2Your thoughts on the Major's defense from what you've studied and the challenges that they want?
Speaker 11Yeah, I think you know, first off, you know, with what coach Carroll has done and in this league, they've had some great differences.
And obviously his scheme and obviously the one you know, crowdy you know, jumps out on tape.
And they got some veteran some veteran linebackers, some guys that we're playing, play hard and you know, come up and hit you.
And I think that they do, they're they're good at what they do.
I think you're gonna know, they're gonna, you know, bring it every play.
And I think for us, we just gotta stay ahead of the chains and uh try to do our best to you know, get off to a good start and then uh, like I said, just follow our keys and and uh, you.
Speaker 15Know, No ninety eight.
Speaker 11You know he's a great player in this league.
Plays hard, he know, plays a lot of effort.
And they got a veteran, you know, a couple veteran safeties, so who's made some plays and good ball skills.
So we gotta you gotta be on our game.
It's gonna be out there in your week one, you know, turn at home.
So I'm excited and looking forward to it.
Speaker 3It comes to Crosby.
Speaker 16A lot of people look at the offensive line and how they handle them, but how can the rest of the offense maybe neutralize what.
Speaker 15He's able to do on Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 11I think it's hard to me, you know, getting the ball out on time, you know, not holding it, you know, no one, don't.
Speaker 15You know bypass?
You know, the first guy open, I see the open, trying to hunt a deeper one.
Speaker 11You'll help, you know different, you know, the running backs can help, you know, in the protection.
You know, I think little things like that, and I think scheme.
Speaker 15I think me just getting us.
Speaker 11In the right plays and and knowing when he's one on one and knowing when you know we have help to him and I think, uh, from there, just like I said, for our keys and know if it's emphasis for us this week, then just you'll follow that and stay true to it.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 6Are you comfortable enough getting the new office, the new offense to.
Speaker 4Be able to make those kind of quick freeds and get rid of love quickly?
Speaker 7I you that comfortable with you know the offense and being able to read the defense.
Speaker 15What's gonna fit es ma'am.
Speaker 11Yeah, I think that's that's part of what we you know, watch film who as part of what we come out here and practice for is you know, no one, no one checkdowns and no one hey you know my first look.
If they're giving it to me, you'll take it.
And I think that's the best part of playing quarterback in this league.
Find completions and I feel confident in myself.
I feel like at times last year when I got the ball out on time and you've got the ball to the right guy, we moved the ball well.
So I think just trying to you know, start off this season with that mindset and like I said, stay ahead of the chains and do my part and you'll find completions and not holding the.
Speaker 4Ball like getting stuffin famous this off season and hop sent of him just to start.
Speaker 11It's been an awesome to bomb with such a high level player.
I think it's you know, continue to show us as a game, you know, game weeknd and game day comes close from closer, the kind of how much he's elevating his game and elevating.
Speaker 15His practice style.
Speaker 11So you know, it's I'm looking forward to green out there with him on Sunday, and I think you'll see, uh, you know, a good energy from from Steph and I'm looking forward to get him the rock and and and let him do his thing.
Speaker 2You you veteran player learned dot call and what kind of ads see brings the offense.
Speaker 3And he's third.
Speaker 15Yeah, it's constant.
Speaker 11I think it's the best thing you see about you know, mag He brings it every day.
You know, it's no off days, and you know he's he's working extra.
He's you know, drawing up plays and asking me to you know, come to extra walkthroughs and and doing things that you will show up on Sundays and show up in practice.
So I think from that, you know, you know, what else would you expect from from a tar heel.
So he's just got to brought a great energy to the room.
You know, veteran does all the right things, you know, blocks in the run game, and I think he's, uh, you're gonna be rewarded with you know, being in there and making plays great.
Speaker 3Josh his coach against the defense can Ford times he con't have.
Speaker 5The things I've.
Speaker 2Seen players and have you got that?
Speaker 11Yeah, going back watching Super Bowl, going back watching the COVID game with Cam when nobody in the stands.
Yeah, I think it's great having you know, coach McDaniels, who's you know, played against his defense and and uh, you know knows knows some extra little tidbits for me to know, whether it's in the huddle or before on this play.
I think it's great to you know, have you know, play color in the corner.
Who's you know, play against the scheme in the Super Bowl?
And I studied a lot and I think that's with you know, a lot of corners in this league's played against him and seen him.
Speaker 15And I think.
Speaker 11It's great to have that in the room and you'll see what he's kind of getting on the same page with him as what you're seeing and try to catch up, you know, as as much as I can to his level.
I'm not gonna get there, but try to just of hind or understanding of hey, I think they're gonna do this, or hey, so what I think they're going to be in and then from there watching gold games, watching Cam Newton, watching Tom in the Super Bowl is pretty cool.
Speaker 7What do you think learning front year?
Speaker 14You know Captain Hunter, Harry just seeing help lead this.
Speaker 15Team professional saying yeah.
And I think Hunter just just a positive energy he brings to the huddle.
Speaker 11I think, you know, with me balancing that with kind of being serned in the huddle and knowing that, hey, I gotta get these guys going, I think just bringing, you know, the positive energy.
And I think Hunter is the things about Hunter, he was one of the best friends on the team.
He just shows up every day.
He loves he loves football.
I guess that's kind of what I'm learning from from Hunter.
He doesn't do it for anything else, for the love of the game.
Where he's running a clear out route or catching the seam ball or blocking the run game, he does it out of sure joor of wanting to win.
I think we both share that same mindset want to win.
Speaker 10Top.
Speaker 7You know, your teammates have voted on toward you.
Speaker 3To kind of leave.
Speaker 15I think he's a great honor.
I think, you know, I think it means something, you know, playing with the C on her chest.
Speaker 11And I think you'll learned that from from Jacoby Jacoby last year and some of those guys you know, David Andrews in the past, and I think it's something that you don't take lightly.
And so, you know, great honor from your teammates and a team vote, and I think it's it's something that often I feel like the starting quarterback can kind of we'll say next our gifted it.
But I think it's kind of one of those things where I think you go out there and earn it and prove to him I'm captain.
And that's kind of my mindset of proving to them of being a leader on this team.
And I think I'm not taking it as a gift.
That's learn about matarials.
I wouldn't say yet.
I wouldn't say yet.
I think, uh, you know, it was it was tough watching that Monday night.
They uh, that first drive looked good.
But you know, I think I'm I'm I'm counting on those guys and and coaches and I'll be tuned in all season.
Speaker 16So Drake, in the past than this offense, not just Fectames but phill O'Bryan, the relationship between the quarterback and the play collar and the offensive coordinator, there was a lot of give and take as far as input on what you guys wanted to do in that game plan.
Are you at that point yet or is it more of a one way.
Speaker 2Stream with Gamage.
Speaker 15Yeah.
I think that's something you build, you know, throughout the season.
Speaker 11I think it's something that I think he valued in my opinion, especially on the plays, and I think he valued my opinion.
Speaker 15And hey, I'm you know, out of this formation, right of this look.
I like this stuff.
And I think it's something that kind of throughout the season.
I think you can kind of.
Speaker 11Say, hey, I think what about this play, Remember we ran it back in this week.
Speaker 15I think it's something that you can kind of build and uh, you know, build trust.
I think the trust is there.
Speaker 11I think it's just for me of just continue growing and seeing, hey, let's do this against you this defense and continue to find out, you know what things I like and I think you know for right now, just trusting whatever he's got in and let them know what I like and and give an input here and there.
Speaker 15Hey I like this, I like that.
So I talked about gigs and calls IVC from.
Speaker 4And now great moments in.
Speaker 3History.
Speaker 14Most wine drinkers see no value in playing with the cork, but it's a nice tradition.
Speaker 7It makes a good souvenir.
Speaker 2I've seen it done.
Speaker 3Oh, I've seen it that all the time.
Because people don't really know what they're doing with wine.
Speaker 17Uh, your idiocy knows no bounds.
Speaker 3So you just keep the cork to you no more than wine spectator.
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 17I'm saying that at good restaurants, they give you the course somelias.
Yes, have told me you smell the cork for an immediate test as to whether the wine has gone bad or not.
Speaker 3I don't know.
Yeah, it's ever said that to you, or if they don't know, they walk away and laughed at you.
You know what I just told that guy?
Speaker 17Okay, the wine dude, Okay, you all know better than you know.
Speaker 3What Cabernet seven.
You know, I can tell the difference of a good one in a bad one.
That's about as far as I go.
Speaker 4What's your test?
Speaker 2What's your barometer for whether it's good or not?
Speaker 3Just how it feels in my mouth.
Speaker 1That's another great moment, all right.
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Speaker 12I like that.
Speaker 3Yeah, good stuff.
We're talking raiders coming up on Sunday.
Some of us are excited.
Some of us have tempered their excitement.
But that's okay, that's all right.
Speaker 4What who's tempering their excitement?
Just out of care?
Speaker 3Just people can decide from themselves, just from the just one off.
Speaker 4That was a shot.
Because I'm jack for the start of the secay.
Speaker 3So Mike is off to the locker room.
He'll be back.
Evan is out doing his thing.
We're going to be doing picks at one thirty.
So that's great.
Just so people know, And let me see if I can find his email trying to find Boston Creams.
Well, you know what, I don't need to go to his email.
Boston Creams on the line, so let's go right to him.
What's up, Boston cream.
Speaker 18Hey, guys, I'm gonna have to find Christian in la one dollars in a first round draft pick for trying to deflate deplayed us before the season started.
Speaker 3We should call him to flate Kate.
Speaker 10Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 18In terms for the fan pick him, we have about ninety spots left.
It's capped at five hundred, so only the first five hundred fine folks can join.
Speaker 10Our link to join.
Speaker 18Is going to be TinyURL dot com slash Patriots unfiltered.
Signyurl dot com.
Speaker 10Slash Patriots on filtered.
Speaker 18There's a lot of very excited Patriots on filters fans who are also now in a giant group chat, which is a unique bonus that was unforeseen.
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Speaker 3Okay, so there's only ninety slots out of five hundred left, Now that's pretty good.
We just announced that yesterday TinyURL dot com slash Patriots unfiltered.
That is it.
So how that will work?
People will do their picks on that app and then next week we'll go to the app and say, Okay, you know, so and so did really well, they had a better record than than us, or they're right in the mix or whatever.
Speaker 4So that's well, there's gonna be five hundred people.
I'm gonna guess there's gonna be a lot of people that have better records than us.
Speaker 3So I'm hoping that when you sign up, you sign up in a way that we recognize who you are.
If you're a frequent email or a caller, you know.
Speaker 18That's a good point spread people should change if they listen and call into the show, maybe their name and where they're from, i e.
Christian in LA.
That way, maybe it's a little more recognizable when you guys take a look, I will say a lot of people have done that.
Speaker 6Okay, great, all right now, Boston Cream, Should I put the link you sent me and just said in the newsletter or do you think it'll be too late by that point tomorrow?
Speaker 18I think it's going to be too late.
I think if there's any interest to do a like a post week one league and people want to feel included but they don't want to be in the main one, we can do that.
But it's going to be I would anticipate the league is going to be filled within the next probably two hours.
Speaker 3Probably in two minutes after we've just announced the URL yeah, I.
Speaker 7Can believe that many people already signed up.
Speaker 18Thanks for letting me share, guys, and best of luck to everyone in the league, and go Patriots.
Speaker 3Okay, there's T shirts on at stay here.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 7Should we do like a weekly T shirt?
Speaker 3Why not?
And then nothing else to do?
Speaker 7I feel like we do something big for the winner.
Speaker 3The overall season win.
Yeah, two T shirts, one that fits, or like.
Speaker 7A custom T shirt like Patriots.
Speaker 4Champion or something about customizing.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 7Or they come in and like get to watch the show or something something like that.
Speaker 3An experience.
Comfortable experiences are big now.
You know credit cards that you get points in your earn experiences, sporting events, you know about that.
Speaker 4I do know about it.
But I like to be behind the velvet ropes like Andy.
Speaker 3Yeah, well the experience would be meeting you behind the velvet rope.
Speaker 4That's what I'm looking to avoid.
Speaker 3Well, all right, Mike and Long Island.
What's up, Mike, Hey guys, great show.
There you go.
That's all right, good good, yup.
Speaker 18I know you got to hurry, so all hang up.
Speaker 4Okay, thanks thanks Mike, common comic comedic style, and I love Mike and Long.
I love England.
That was very well done.
Speaker 3Will In Cranston writes in at podcasts at Patriots dot Com, I have no idea how as a Patriots fan, how people are not super excited.
There are so many reasons this game should be awesome.
Campbell versus Max Davis versus Bowers, Pop and Digs versus, a questionable secondary, a new regime under Rabo, a playmaker group of running backs, and a perennial, perennially underrated tight end in Hunter Henry In a growing quarterback and rookie room who wants to prove it.
I'm pumped.
Let's go Patriots.
Let's take the East.
Speaker 4I love it is that the proper amount of excitement.
Speaker 3Yes, absolutely good.
Speaker 4You guys are coming through Jackie ann Arbor.
That email in Cranston, I forget the first name.
Speaker 3What was his name?
Speaker 4Will and Kranston, Well, well that's good.
Good job you met Fred stamp of approval.
Good job yep.
Speaker 3Joseph is the biggest Patriots fan in Hillsboro, Oregon.
Self proclaimed, he says, from each of the panel, what is the one realistic thing that we could see on Sunday that you would give that would give you the most optimism for how the rest of the season will go outside of Drake May looking like a franchise quarterback.
For me, it would be Campbell and Wilson starting on the left side and holding up well in pass protection.
That's a good one.
Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4Mean that's tough without the answer, he's right by taking away the obvious.
Yeah, but that's the one thing that would leave me to believe they could have a better season, would be Drake May looking the part.
Other than that, how about Chrevon Henderson is as electric as we all think he's going to be that we've seen in the preseason.
All of a sudden he gets the ten to fifteen touches that we're talking about, and he makes some plays, big plays.
Speaker 3I mean mine would be Diggs, you know, ten twelve catches or whatever you know, or more.
Speaker 6I feel like mine is the listener or the emailers example of the O line.
I think if that's secure, everything else kind of yep, can build off that.
Speaker 3Yeah, there's a lot of things that a lot of people will be jumping to conclusions on both sides, good or bad after this game, which you know, people should probably caution because I remember this time last year after the Cincinnati game.
Speaker 4It's not really showing the proper amount of enthusiasm.
Speaker 3Fred No, But like more so, I'm saying that in case things aren't good.
Speaker 4Right, that's good, that's good fun.
Yeah now, but you're right, Yeah, I keep talking about that.
With regard to the draft classes.
Draft class, everybody is gaga over because all these guys are going to be playing right away.
And I just would caution that all the guys that played right away last year, you told me how wonderful that was as a sign, and by the end of the year you looked at it a lot differently that that opener last year against Cincinnati.
It was certainly you know, unexpected.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, they play.
Speaker 4If you drew any conclusion, they're going to be able to run the ball like that against anyone, that would have been your takeaway from that game, that physicality travels, that plays.
Speaker 3Like no doesn't.
Speaker 15Right.
Speaker 3So, like I said, a lot of conclusions will be made after this game that will probably be wrong.
Was that both sides.
Speaker 6Was that the game where we had like a full Baldi's breakdown about was it Ladon Robinson or was that a different game.
Speaker 4I don't know about Baldi's breakdown, but there's There were a lot of people that were like, you can win like that, you know, you can just line up and be physically.
Speaker 3Baldy did do a breakdown.
I don't know if it was about Laydon Robinson, but I remember him doing something I remember doing my I reposted it because I was like, yeah, I remember doing.
Speaker 4My hit with with Mike and Tony the next week and the whole thing.
You know, they were skeptical that they could continue to play like that and week in and week out.
Yeah, no, no, they were skeptical they could play the way they played that way, keep that level of play.
And I saw if they play like that every week, they're gonna lose more games than they win.
That isn't sustainable to win.
You can't just run the ball and not make any plays in the passing game and hope the other team fumbles going into the end zone and expect to win every week.
You know, you're not gonna win sixteen to ten every week because the other team poops itself.
That was the unsustainable.
Speaker 3The exact words where it's a tough way to live.
Speaker 4It's a tough way to live, exactly right.
Speaker 3James, the most interesting Patriots fan of the World says, I remember the days of the double by we mock a fan base for being overly excited coming off two four win seasons.
Remember what we said about the Eagles dream team all those years ago.
I understand why you do it, Fred, But that behaved is for NFL peasantry.
We're Patriots fans, we are Swans in the water.
We know success.
Speaker 4Oh come on, I'm with you, Fred, Come on, that's your problem.
Speaker 3We're starting.
Speaker 4That's your problem.
Speaker 3We're starting a new here.
Speaker 4Correct.
Speaker 3This is not we can't use the bar of Tom Brady anymore.
Speaker 4Like we can't be looking down at other teams fan bases for being enthusiastic and excited about the start of a new season, right we like, you're not them anymore?
Ye like this whole peasantry thing.
I yeah, did the last five years not happen?
Or how many years would it?
Will it be before someone says, okay, all right, we're just like James.
Speaker 3Over the last two years, we were peasants.
Speaker 4And we're just like everybody else.
You're going to go into a new season hoping you're that you've improved, hoping that Drake made is the guy that.
Speaker 3To me is we may have we may have royalty going through our are veins, but we need to get back up there.
We haven't earned it yet.
Speaker 4Like you, you and Alex were talking about sort of the excitement of the new season.
Isn't that what being a fan is all about.
Every year offers new hope.
Yep, it doesn't matter that you went four and thirteen last year.
We got to be excited about this is going to be different.
Mike Rabel's here now, Josh McDaniels is taking care of Drake May, and they're going to be better.
That's I don't know why you wouldn't look at it like that as a fan, and why you would think that that's embarrassing, like that makes you a peasant.
I don't get that.
I believe he called the peasantry of well, the teams that.
Speaker 3Think like he's very high brow, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4That's like the way that the way that you've.
Speaker 7Met James right, I have a meendim Bro correspondent, like.
Speaker 4The like the Browns, right, the Browns right now, they're probably not expected to do anything.
You don't think, you know, diehard Cleveland fans are like, well, you know, if you know Flacco gets off to a good start, they might be able to win some games.
The defense has some talent with Miles Garrett and right, why would when you think like that as a fan?
Speaker 7Sure, because we're miserable here, some of us are.
I'm not personally, I'm not.
You are not trying to be very optimistic at all times.
Speaker 4I try to be realistic.
But I don't think there's anything wrong with being optimistic.
I just feel like that's part of being a fan.
Why it's fanatic?
Speaker 6Yeah, and take advantage of these moments because sometimes you learn right there, week one, oh crop, this is going to be a long and sometimes it's a fleeting woman of hope and just enjoy it.
Speaker 3Listen.
I always go back to three high hopes.
You know, you came off not making the playoffs and O two but you're a year away from being a super Bowl champ and then molloy and you lose thirty one nothing and it was like, oh crap.
But things turned around, you know.
Bradley writes in I've heard you mentioned not wanting to have Henderson go between the tackles as much due to his potential wear and tear.
Would you worry about his eagerness to pick up blitzes, contributing to wear and tear if left in to pass protect.
Well, that's his strength.
Speaker 4Because you're delivering a hit as opposed to getting hit.
Speaker 3You're the hammer, not the nail.
Speaker 4Correct.
Plus one of them is a necessity, the other one is not a necessity.
You don't have to subject yourself to more hits than you want to as a blitz protector.
That's part of the job that you have to do.
Otherwise the quarterback is going to take that hit.
Speaker 3Yep.
And we were told, you know, that's what's kept rookie running bats on the bench is because they weren't quick to pick that up.
This guy, from everything we've seen comes into the league.
Speaker 4And there is a difference.
I know, like me and Fred are doing the Andy Hart iron Sharpen's iron hammer and the nail, but there is a difference between hitting someone and getting hit.
Oh yeah, in terms of the physicality.
Speaker 3Darius says, I want to start off and say that you're all the best, thank you, And I also want to give a big thank you to Boston Cream for setting the app so we could all play along.
That was awesome of him.
Secondly, I wanted to say how proud I am of Digs for standing up for himself.
I understand that you guys are medias also, but sometimes the media needs to get checked.
Lastly, my score prediction Patriots thirty eight, Vegas twenty four.
Speaker 4Wow, what did I mean?
What is the media checked party?
Speaker 7Well?
Speaker 3Did you heard Diggs yesterday?
Speaker 4Oh?
Yeah, that wasn't the media checked part?
Speaker 2Well?
Speaker 3He kind of checked Phil and Tom.
What do you mean he called him.
Speaker 4Out by name.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 4I think it was about something else, but that's okay.
Speaker 3He said Phil and Tom, But it was about Bob and Steve.
Speaker 4No, no, no, no, no, no, no Phil.
My point is Phil and Tom didn't do anything wrong.
They were making their thing off or something.
Dig said, No, yeah, it was about Phil saying he was a pain in the ass.
Yeah, based on as actually said Posterioasteria.
Yeah, but it was based off for something Diggs had said that he didn't necessarily mean literally, right, but so it was something Diggs said.
Speaker 3No, no, yes, he didn't say I'm a pain in the posteria.
Speaker 4It's a different thing.
We don't have to get okay, all right, but I think he was checking them.
I don't think he was Okay.
Speaker 7I just feel like everyone involved made it a way bigger deal than it.
Speaker 4It was a complete and total nothing burger.
Again, you know how I know when it's a nothing burger.
When two guys that make something out of everything, Mike and Tony said this is a complete nothing burger.
I don't know what we're even talking about.
Well, the most unnecessary thing I've ever seen in my life that I agree with.
Speaker 3I think it was odd.
I thought it was odd.
Speaker 4I don't think he needed it was completely bizarre.
Yeah, but and he was kind of made more out of it than had already existed.
Well, I think it was completely unnecessary.
Speaker 7I wonder if Raebel didn't.
Speaker 6I don't know if he got like impatient with Phil's question that day when Phil was kind of trying to get clarification on Diggs talking to Russini.
When Diggs was it seemed like he was just joking around with Rusini, and then he.
Speaker 7Goes to Rebel.
I feel like Rabel's like, why are you wasting my time with this?
Speaker 3Come on?
Speaker 6And then maybe people felt some type of way after that encounter, and then it lands on Diggs being a jerky somehow, And I don't under.
Speaker 4Oh, I don't think it landed on Diggs being a jerk, but I think you've nailed the whole situation.
I think it was an unnecessary like why are you phoning around on this interview?
Now they're asking me these questions.
Now I have to answer this, Phil, what's wrong with you?
You should know better?
He was joking around, like it just turned into something in Minnesota that didn't need to happen, and for whatever reason, three weeks later, Dig decided to I don't know, do whatever that was yesterday.
Twitter ran with it, unfortunately, But when was the last time you saw anything about it since they got back from Minnesota.
Speaker 7I feel like.
Speaker 6Being trolled that they're like whiny or something, or free will shove them in a locker.
Speaker 7Oh, I don't know narratives that could be.
Speaker 4Yeah, I just didn't.
I didn't really understand that that was a waste of time.
Yeah, yes, to be honest with you, and you know it's funny.
Speaker 2I was.
Speaker 4I was with Mike and Tony when that happened.
I was doing my sunshine and I said, to be honest with you, like Diggs is saying, I didn't mean to come off as an a hole.
Or whatever, and I was like, to the contrary, we haven't talked to him a lot.
That part was true.
He hasn't spoken to the media a lot, but when he has he's been excellent.
Yeah, Like Alex, you know, gave you some insight as to what he's been like, sort of behind the scenes, away from microphones.
We haven't talked to him a lot, but when he has talked to us, he's been really.
Speaker 3Even after the boat incident and he was interviewed in the fieldhouse, I believe they had practiced the door that day.
He was fine.
Speaker 4He was fine.
Like I haven't had any inkling whatsoever of what he was talking about yesterday.
Speaker 3Yes, I excited about him.
I don't know why you're not.
Speaker 4I mean, I'm just excited, just excited, Fred, just excited.
I just want to be excited.
I want to be like Mike do So and just be excited all the time.
It's great.
I don't have to go twelve and four anymore.
It's just exciting.
Speaker 3Defense is back in New England.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4I didn't get the whole thing yesterday, to be honest with you, but I agree with Alex.
It was a total nothing.
Speaker 3Yeah, speed Fresno absolutely loved the New Jill song and all of her musical contributions.
But just want to give a nostalgic shout out to mister lyfft on Tuesday PFW shows after win.
I always used to get totally jacked up when the record scratch at the beginning kicked in.
That was a good opening song, mister lyff Anyway, here's a little quick game of free association.
I'll give you a very brief cue, a single word or phrase, and you blurt out the first NFL coach that comes to mind.
Current or former coaches are eligible.
I've listed answers that popped into my mind, which Frek can reveal after you guess.
This should go fast because I know you got to hurry.
Okay, so free association.
I'm going to say a word.
Tell me the first coach current or in the past that comes to mind.
Ready, tripping Tom correct, like Tomins tried to trip somebody on the sideline once clapping Jason Garrett, Yes, could be McDermott too, scowling scowling Bill Bill, Bill Wilford, Brimley, Andy Reid, Ye Fedora mm hmm.
Could be two people.
Speaker 4Like Tom Landry.
Okay, past Okay, I was thinking, but I remember I remember the qualified.
Speaker 3Okay advisor McDaniels.
That's a good one.
But I think he only wants head coaches, so that's a good one.
It doesn't have his things aren't.
The correct answer is just whatever works, so there's no right or wrong.
Speaker 4McDaniels works because he was a past Absolutely.
Speaker 3Uh sunglasses, this is a good one.
Absolutely, he used to wear sunglasses.
Speaker 4Else with sunglasses?
Who Tony Sperano, Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
He had the eye thing, yeah, good, good, good.
He has some kind of eye conditioning.
Speaker 3Yeah, he was like even at night he'd wear them.
Uh, thick rim glasses this one.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4That Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 3No, it doesn't coach anything.
Speaker 7ODIs glasses.
Speaker 3Yeahs.
I'll give you another one, just like or something.
I'll give you another one, same person that I'm that he was thinking of.
And then uh punching.
Speaker 4Oh what he hayes No no no, no, no, no no no what he hates had thick rimmed glass but NFL, he actually did.
Buddy Buddy Ryan, Buddy Ryan had.
Speaker 3Remember he punched his offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4I suppose he did have thick rimmed glass, Kevin Gilbride.
Yeah, he was the defensive coordinator at the time.
Speaker 3This is easy feet Rex, Brian, you got right, good pencil pencil.
Speaker 7I think of Patricia, but yes, yes, you got it.
Speaker 3That's a good one.
Not again, it's not right or wrong, but yeah, that's who he thought of as well.
Where are you going?
Okay, so we'll finish the game.
Gum gum.
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6I've thought about someone watching an NFL game just chomping the hell out of a piece of gum and I can't picture.
Speaker 3Well, there's one that we're gonna see.
Speaker 7Carrol.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's always mustache, I think, yes, and he had as well as as well as Bill Cower tight pants, any of Evans.
He's got McDaniel, but it could Sean McVay.
Yeah, I think of Sean McVay.
He was the original tight pants guy, right and then red face.
Speaker 7Red face.
There could be a couple there too.
Speaker 3Yeah, he's got Tom clapp Coughlin, which is a good one.
I would have had McDermott and he said, Fred will say McDermott, you know, red ass you call him.
So that's that's a good game.
Speaker 7Take me out of this.
Speaker 3Thanks, b someone has returned.
Speaker 7Look who's back from the locker room?
Speaker 10What was the mood where the player's friendly to that?
Speaker 3None of them look like Devin Henry.
Speaker 4Hey Mike, what was it like in the locker room?
Speaker 7Heyke?
Speaker 3What was it like in the locker room?
Hey Mike?
Speaker 2What was it like?
It's pretty uh exciting, I would say, I think exciting.
Yeah, I think the guys are anticipation's building for the home opener this weekend for sure.
Uh, you know, talk to a couple of Trevon Hendersons.
You know, his first chance of course, uh getting out there.
So he seemed he actually he seemed kind of like steady Eddie.
He didn't really seem like, oh, I'm so you know, he's kind of a quiet guy though anyway.
But you know, morgan O's this good advice for the young guys and what to expect, and you know, I think the message from the veterans is just go out there and play football.
You know, don't overthink it.
You guys are all brought in here for a reason, so you know, just go out there and and and let it rip.
So uh, Pop Douglas the same thing, you know, just talking a little bit of out his opening game experiences and everybody hoping that the fans are going to bring the energy and that they have a little bit of a home field advantage.
So I think it's in a game like this, which a lot of the Patriots games are this year, feels kind of like a coin flip, you hope that you know, the energy is really good here and that that home field advantage comes back.
Hasn't really been a home field Yeah, And I.
Speaker 3Hope you know, fans, if you're listening, those of you are going to be in attendance, bring the noise, bring it, let's go, let's let's let's get to Let's stadium.
Back to being a home field advantage, yeah, because I don't think it has been for a long time.
Speaker 2No, No, And it's I think they go hand in hand, you know, good team and get it.
Speaker 3I get.
I'm not blaming the fans.
I'm just like, let's let's start off on the right foot this this week.
Speaker 2Then you know, we can start to build some momentum and you know, start to build some buzz and hey there's something going on here in this you know, win or lose.
I think this team is going to play really hard and be a fun product to watch.
And I just hope offensively that they're able to move the ball, put some points up and make all these games interesting.
Speaker 3So getting back to the locker room, a lot of media, lot of me, lot of media people.
Speaker 2No national people, but I would say there was more than than yesterday.
Yesterday was a little bit quieter, which is strange, but of course we had you know, Josh McDaniels went earlier, Jeremy Springer went earlier to Roll Williams is going this afternoon.
The rest of the offensive coaches are going this afternoon.
So it's a very busy day right now for these guys, and I know Thursday is a big day for their prep.
I was watching a couple of the guys go out with you know, they used to wear like pennies when they're pretending to be the other team, but now they're just wearing like kind of regular Patriots jersey.
So guys in different numbers.
You know, Jeremiah Webb was in sixteen, so I guess he's, you know, playing the part of Jacobe Kobe Myers this week.
So that's you know, how Rabel likes to do it.
Speaker 5I guess every little nuances.
Speaker 3Did you run into Evan?
Speaker 2I did run into Evan.
I talked to Evian a little bit in the locker room.
Speaker 5You interview I didn't interview him.
Speaker 2I just I just, you know, had a little brief chat with him as we were.
You know, he does this thing, he's going around talking.
Speaker 3I was to say, like, did you catch Evan in a corner in a little conversation.
Speaker 2I saw one with Jalen Hawkins and and then it was funny yesterday as I mean, you know, Evan went up to he went up to Josh Dobbs yesterday and he was like, can I ask you a potentially stupid football question?
And Josh Dobbs was very gracious, and I didn't hear what they were saying, but they had a good conversation.
And Josh Dobbs like, no, it's a good question.
Speaker 3I want to talk up to Josh Dobbs.
I want to see if he wants to do.
Speaker 4Evan did that.
He went up to Josh Dobbs and just said Evyane was being disingenuous.
There's no way that he really thought dumb, because there's no way he would subject himself to.
Speaker 2Not being a ball noer no, I think this might have been an area that Evan actually like wasn't was genuinely wasn't sure about something.
I do that stuff.
Speaker 4That's exactly how I do it.
Speaker 3It's like how I wait into right, I'm surprised I'm not getting a call, Hey, why is Evan asking Josh?
Speaker 2Well, I think he you know what he's giving.
Evan does dive into the film, and I think he, you know, generally has questions that that only those guys can really answer.
So Josh jobs was great.
I mean, it seemed like he gave him a lot.
And that's nothing I really enjoyed from some of the behind the scenes Forged stuff.
Was just, you know, Josh Dobbs listening to him kind of talk to these guys, and you know, you just get a sense of who these guys are as people and as teammates and what kind of leadership they bring.
And every time I hear Josh Dobbs talk, I see, Yeah, I get why this guy is.
You know, we're just really respecting he's got, i mean, obviously really interesting career with what he's done, going into programs and starting games on no.
Speaker 3No, you know, no, no, I want to do a podcast with Josh Dobbs past him.
Just that'd be fun two of us and we'll talk about science fiction, we'll talk about all kinds of different things.
Speaker 2You know, that's exciting.
Speaker 3I would like to do that.
I'm going to propose that Tom, Josh Dobbs.
Speaker 4Let's go.
Speaker 3Well, what's going on?
Speaker 2Pull you all right?
So I haven't seen.
Speaker 3I thought you had to go to the bar.
Speaker 7Did you just fake a call to get a new PEPSI?
Speaker 4Well, I was out there.
While I'm out here, I was out there, so I decided to go around the corner and get one from that other refrigerator.
And I also had a quick little moment with the head coach.
Braves happened to be coming by.
Speaker 2Hey Paul, just a high quiet Hey, pay how.
Speaker 4You doing, Mike?
Good lucks on?
I didn't say good blocks.
So I've been boring Mike with this.
I won't go twenty minutes.
Don't worry about he he has that look on his face.
This is this is like damping, damping the enthusiasm, Paul.
I don't know where you're going with this, but anyway, so my brother in law, his son, my nephew, and we all live very very close together, like within an eighth of a mile right slam.
So yeah, so they've decided everybody's got some cleaning to do.
You know those Hall truck you know those junk trucks out Yeah, yeah, the one eight hundred.
Very very it's very expensive.
Yeah, it can be very expensive.
Right, So we hired one and we're gonna do it.
I asked him to do it all together.
Oh so we got a little bit of a many hands make light work correct, Yeah, and they agreed to do all three and we got a pretty good rate to do it.
The problem was when we've decided to do this, and that was a couple of weeks ago, and all of a sudden, like on Tuesday night, I was told, yeah, they're coming at one thirty on Thursday.
Like, I'm not ready, You're not ready.
So I got home last night, it's dark out, and I'm like, I had to get everything out from under the deck, and I sent Mike a picture of it.
I'll see if I can get that on the camera.
Speaker 2Yeah, we should get that.
Speaker 4Mike is just dying laughing at some of the crowd.
I have, like you know, like the wedding cake stairs that go in a pool like the plastic stairs like when I first got the pool, like twenty five years ago.
The guy's like, yeah, I'm throwing a set of those sticks.
So the guy just like brings over this set of stairs and just dumps him in my backyard.
No instruction.
I have no idea how to like install them.
Speaker 3Put to the top.
Speaker 4He's like, oh you put like like say it like like I'm not drilling anything into my new pool right, like in creating a leak, Like I don't know how that.
So they've never been in the pool.
They've been under my deck for twenty five years.
Speaker 8It looks like it.
Speaker 3I could just see the Perillo clan.
They all get their stuff together and each one is like, you're throwing that out, I'll take that before you know.
If there's nothing left, everything's been claimed by somebody else.
Speaker 7Right, So how did you get into your pool for twenty years?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 4I have a ladder.
There's a regular ladder.
But these stairs would have been much better for say, like my mother in law who used to watch the kids all the time, and would have been much easier for her to get in and out of the pool.
See, he always has to go snark, all right, you're the Queen of Snark.
I'm the king of Snark, you're the queen.
Speaker 3Okay, all right, I'll owan that Moniker.
Okay.
Speaker 4So anyway, Yeah, my brother in law was kind enough to go over and just sort of make sure that everything that we needed to get taken out.
There were three pieces of the sectional still in the house because Beth, who was the only one around to help me get this, the section was in like seven pieces that we were thrown away.
Yeah, sec we put like four of them out in the driveway.
The other ones, the ones that had like the recliner ones, they're really heavy with like the big metal braces in the back end.
I couldn't couldn't do it by myself.
And Beth is like, yeah, I'm out.
Speaker 3You don't have a Dolly in the basement.
Speaker 4What were you saying about the Boston accent?
That was a little Boston accent dolly, right though.
Speaker 7That's almost even more New Jersey, the emphasis on the own, not the O.
Speaker 3Could be.
Speaker 4My brother and law just wanted to make sure that everything that I wanted to get thrown out with all right.
Just the wedding cake stairs, Oh my god, they're textured.
Speaker 2You've just been staring at those cursing them for twenty years.
Speaker 3Put the mold on it.
Speaker 4I think we're going to effort to get that photo up.
It's a mess.
Speaker 2The fans are clamoring for it, all right.
Speaker 3So so you would say, is an enthusiastic locker room.
Was Drake in there?
Speaker 15Yeah?
Speaker 2I saw Drake walking through, so you know, and and I gotta say this again, just to piggyback off what Alex said.
We were all gathered around Pop Douglas and as is often the case, there's so many people that it spills over into the lockers next to him, and Stefan Diggs was not at his locker when we all got there, and he kind of like walked in and Karen Greagan like kind of got out of the way.
We're gonna kind of moved and he was just like, it's all good, it's all good.
I got to like it was, you know, just very smiley, gracious and you know, putting on a good face for for all that.
Speaker 3So after yesterday, God, I hope these kids winning just one.
Speaker 4That's like two weeks in a row.
Speaker 5So it was it was good.
Speaker 3Yeah, Okay, all right, So I think we need to get into the picks because I think we're gonna need a little extra time here too.
Speaker 4Do you need extra time?
Speaker 3All right?
So it is that time of the week.
Speaker 2We're not going to talk about last year.
Speaker 4I was now to be good.
Yes we are, Oh we are all right.
Speaker 3Well, Paul kick it off.
Speaker 4I'm just going to give you the final results from last season because I like to give everybody their props.
Evan eighty one, followed by Alex at one ninety and eighty two.
Paul was third at one eighty four and eighty eight, and then Mike and Fred were tied at one eighty three and eighty nine.
That was the overall with the spread.
Evan also won that.
See again, I like to give the props to the ball knower.
Yeah, one fifty six, one ten and six, followed by Paul at one fifty four, one twelve and six.
Fred, you were third in the spread because that really separates, Yeah, it does, one fifty one, sixteen and six.
Mike was one forty nine, one seventeen and six, and Alex was one forty one, one twenty five and six.
Speaker 3And not to you know, pat ourselves too much on the back, but those are good numbers.
If you're anything over fifty percent against the spread, that's good.
I mean Evan was forty six over the over five hundred, that's correct.
That's that's amazing.
Speaker 2He's a sharp Yeah.
Speaker 3So all right, let's get it.
Speaker 4Alex was sixteen over five hundred and she was all fifth place fast, right, I know, I like to say fifth place.
I think last.
Speaker 3That's really good.
All right, So here we go, And just a reminder, if you want to do your own picks, you can do that at TinyURL dot com slash Patriots Unfiltered thanks to Boston Cream.
He set that up and put your picks in.
And then next week we'll we'll talk about, you know, of our listeners who did really well.
Speaker 2Maybe a T shirt for the Yeah.
Speaker 3All right, So tonight left eight twenty on NBC, Telemundo Universo.
It's the cow And by the way, everyone's record is O and oh so I won't be doing records, right.
The Cowboys are at the Eagles, one of Paul's division games.
Speaker 4Philly by eight and a half, eight point five.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's so.
As I was pondering this game, just wondering what is Dallas's frame of mind after trading Michael Parsons, How does that play out with them?
I know Paul talking about this being a division game, hard to pick against Philadelphia.
They're just so talented.
They have brought most everybody back.
So I'm going to go with Philadelphia.
But I think on the first night of the season in a divisional game, I think it might be a little bit closer, even if the Cowboys are reeling a little bit, So I will take Dallas plus eight point five.
Speaker 7At those points, I'm gonna go Philly, Philly.
It's been a top six months for Dallas sports fans.
Speaker 2It is yep, right they traded Luca.
Speaker 4Yeah, I am going to agree with Alex.
I think it's been a mess for the Cowboys maybe.
I mean, I know I'm reading all from the Dallas industrial Complex that evidently Micah Parsons kills children in his spare time since since the trade last right, the smear campaign is red Sox esque, I would say, But I got to think that that trade wasn't the best thing for everybody with the Cowboys, And now I'll take Philly both ways.
A lot of times that I think Mike is right that that opening night thing coming off a super Bowl doesn't always go the way you think it's gonna go.
But I have a feeling that they, you know, and win.
Speaker 3One of the things that like kind of got lost in all the Micah Parsons and all that stuff is their head coach is Brian Shottennheim.
It's like, because Jerry Jones doesn't want to go out and get like a a coach that will talk back, right.
So I was gonna say the lock was taking the points, but I gotta go Eagles both ways.
I just think that when you add in everything, I just think this is a lost season for the Cowboys.
Friday night, uh eight o'clock on YouTube.
I'm not exactly sure how that's gonna work.
You just type YouTube into the line into your smart TV browser.
I don't want to watch on my phone.
I don't want to watch on my phone.
I want to watch it on my big screen TV.
Am I gonna be able to do.
Speaker 2That without a subscribe?
Speaker 7Do you have the app on your smart TV?
I don't know the YouTube.
Speaker 3I might Okay, I have a smart TV, so I assume that YouTube's probably aren't.
Speaker 6Just he's gonna call you tomorrow, operator, I'll be ready to go I'll be ready to walk you through it.
Speaker 4Trying to watch the game, I will say, with no snark involved at all.
I am borderline stunned that I'm not the one asking that question.
Speaker 3No, I don't watch YouTube TV.
I don't.
Speaker 4I don't either, but I know you can.
Speaker 3I know, but I've never had to, so I don't know.
Speaker 7I just watch YouTube for free.
But they do have like a TV subscription.
Speaker 3You can use YouTube and replace Comcast with it.
YouTube has its own network.
Speaker 4My question is can I watch this game without being a YouTube subscriber?
Speaker 3Yes, yes, it's free.
Speaker 4It is free.
Speaker 3It is free, absolutely, I know that for sure.
Speaker 4So now, but I was a little surprised that you wouldn't be a little bit more up on watching.
Speaker 3I haven't even looked into it yet.
Speaker 4So it's the chiefs at the Chargers casey by three three.
Speaker 2Yeah, I flirted.
Speaker 4I know people are Probablylane would be happy now when I.
Speaker 2Flirted with not picking the chiefs.
Speaker 15Uh.
Speaker 2I know people a little bit of chefs fatigue settling in.
I get it.
But I just I think they are going to bounce back this year.
I can't.
I can't pick the Chargers.
I'm not sure.
I think Kansas City's beating them through or four straight times.
So I'm gonna go with Kansas City, even on the road, and I'm gonna lay the points.
Speaker 7I think Kansas City will win.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, it's in Brazil.
Speaker 3It's in Brazil.
Speaker 4What's three.
Speaker 3Surprising?
Speaker 4That's weird?
Speaker 3Yeah, they know something something's up?
Is something up?
Speaker 4How many do you think they should be favored by over the Chargers?
Speaker 3Seven?
Really?
Yeah?
Speaker 4Six playoff teams are playing?
You think it should be a touch seven?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 2Oh wow, you just made the you made the middle school is really happy with that one.
Speaker 3What the middle schoolers?
Speaker 2Six seventh?
Speaker 7That's a thing.
Speaker 2It can't stop saying six seven.
I don't ask, don't ask.
Speaker 4Don't stumble into an it's not even think you did.
And you know it's not even fields have no idea.
What's going on?
Speaker 15You and I?
Speaker 2Six seven and laughing all over the place.
You don't really know why.
I'm just telling you, Wow, Okay, somebody will write in about it.
Speaker 3I'm sure, all right, somebody tell me what six seven means.
Speaker 4We'll explain it to us off there.
Speaker 7I don't even know.
Speaker 5It's like unexplainable, too young for me.
Speaker 6There's a lot of travel for both teams.
I think Kansas City will win the game.
Speaker 2He's flirting with the hook.
Speaker 7Justin has a new girlfriend.
Speaker 4That's the hook.
Speaker 7I think they might cover.
Speaker 2Wait, who is it?
Somebody famous?
Speaker 7Madison beer Beer.
I don't know.
She's really really hot.
Speaker 2You said it, it's like a it's like a I don't think I heard that.
Speaker 7Name of situation.
Too young, way too young, Oh, Josh.
Speaker 2I would fade any their quarterbacks dating an actress.
Speaker 4But you're taking Kansas City or taking the point.
Speaker 7I'm taking Kansas City, and I'm giving the Chargers the points.
Speaker 4Okay, I am going to take Kansas City both ways also.
But the Chargers are pretty good.
I'm a little, I guess, waiting to see how they respond to a tough, tough summer, you know, losing the best linemen, and how they're going to respond to that.
Najie Harris's you know, situation kind of odd.
Don't know if he's going to be able to play even I think the Chargers are pretty good.
I think there'll be a playoff team.
But I think that the demise or as Quint would say, the demise of the Chiefs, I think has been greatly exaggerated.
Again, a lot of people picking Denver to win the AFC West.
I don't see it.
I'll take the Chiefs.
Speaker 3This is an insider game.
Speaker 4Insider, Yeah, this is.
Speaker 3An insider game.
Something's up with this spread.
I'm telling you all.
I'm going with Charges both way.
Jim Harbaugh has him ready to go on week one chat.
Speaker 4I couldn't absolutely see the Chargers winning.
I just don't really get your spread.
Thing, Like the Chiefs never cover, like that's their thing is Like everybody should have beaten the Chiefs every game, but they find a way to win.
They never cover.
Like where you're gonna lay like ten points?
Okay, no one would take Kansas City.
Speaker 3I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4But okay, like the spread like a divisional game and a neutral site, a field goal, I don't know what you're expecting to be favored by.
That's what I don't get.
Okay, So I'm taking the Charges seven both ways.
Speaker 3It's supposed to be six or seven six seven?
Speaker 4He did it again that when he did on purpose, I don't even.
Speaker 3Know what I'm doing.
Speaker 7Appealing to the younger democratics.
Speaker 4Good Sunday at one on Fox, Oh wait, we have to skip over that one.
Speaker 2We do go ahead?
Speaker 3No mine, Okay, Sunday at one at Fox the Buccaneers are at the Falcons.
Speaker 4Uh, just nothing other division game?
Speaker 2Great love it?
Speaker 4Uh, Tampa by one and a half.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is one of those really tough games for me.
I always feel like to the Falcons are I agree with Fred hard really stockpiling.
I feel like some really good pieces on both sides of the ball.
You know, dropped a couple edge guys this year in the draft as well, Like I just am wondering, is it all gonna come together with you know, Drake London and Michael Pennix and Jon Robinson or you know, Tampa still got great weapons too, and a mega Buca has really had a good camp to You're gonna let baker Bag.
Let baker Bag with him in it, you know, absolutely, I'm gonna get a little crazy.
I'm gonna go with Atlanta at home and a little bit of a little bit of a changing not changing the guard, but I think Atlanta's gonna put some pressure on Tampa.
I'll take the Falcons and uh, I'll take those one point five points.
Please.
Speaker 7The home dogs are tempting, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 4Go Tampa Tampa.
So I agree with Mike that I think the Falcons are a team if Michael Pennix plays well.
Obviously they have a lot of talent and they could be heard from.
I think Tampa is better.
I'm a little concerned about their injuries to start the season, but I'm going to take Tampa to get off to a better start on the road, I'll take Tampa.
Speaker 3I'm gonna take the Falcons to win the game.
Sunday at one on Fox, the Bengals are at the.
Speaker 4Browns Cincinnati by five and a half.
Speaker 3Will they come out ready to play?
Speaker 2I'm gonna say they do this year.
Fred, I'm gonna I know that they've had rough starts in the past, but they got Trey Hendrickson in order and hopefully that has positive vibes for them going into Week one.
Just really hard to no disrespect to Joe Flacco, but to pick Cleveland even with their really good defense.
Speaker 1Love Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase t Higgins.
Speaker 3Well, Joe too much fit be.
Before the game, what was the spread?
Speaker 2Five?
Speaker 4Five, five and a half.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'll lay the five to five.
Speaker 6Yeah, I think Cincinnati gets over that.
Early season struggle bus that.
Speaker 7They've been on.
I think I'm gonna take them both ways.
Speaker 4Yeah, I am going to say that they're ready to play with the changes that they made in the summer.
I'll take I'll take the Bengals, but I'm not laying five and a half with that defense.
I'll take the points.
So Cincinnati to win, Cleveland to cover.
Speaker 3I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways, so Joe Cool gets it done.
CBS at one.
The Dolphins are at the Colts.
Speaker 1Indye by one, and a Hey, I just I don't know what to except for Miami.
Speaker 2I see all these you know, rumblings with drama with Tyreek Hill and you know, is Mike McDaniel losing the locker room and all that stuff, and I just, I mean, they've been so good against the Patriots, and they seem to beat the to bad teams, and they lose to the good teams.
I'm gonna go for a little bit out on the limb though here.
And I know in Indianapolis is favorite, but I'm going to take Indianapolis.
I'm going to buy into a little bit of the Miami hype and say they dropped this one in Week one.
Speaker 1I'll lay the one and a half.
Speaker 7Indie Indy.
Speaker 4Yeah, this is probably the game I have the least amount of clue about.
I could see Daniel Jones playing reasonably well for his new team and in the Colts at home winning.
I just think Miami is better, and I know everybody thinks Miami is gonna win three games this year.
That seems to be the consensus.
Much like Kansas City, I think their demise is overrated.
I don't think Miami is necessarily a playoff team, but I see them doing exactly what Mike said and continuing to beat the bad teams and losing to good teams.
And they're always better early in the season than late because McDaniel usually has some things offensively.
I'll take Miami to win.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Anyone who outside of South Florida or India Annapolis who thinks they have a beat on this game is just lying.
But I'm going to take the Colts because I want them to win.
Speaker 4So which brings up an interesting thing, Freddy.
Yeah, you know, we haven't made all the picks yet, but Patriots Great chanced to enter Week two in first place by themselves.
Speaker 3There you go.
Speaker 4Miami loses to Indy Jets lose to Pittsburgh.
Buffalo loses to Baltimore.
Ye boom roasted boom.
That's how it happens.
I left out the Patriots part.
Speaker 3But Sunday at one on Fox, the Panthers are at the Jaguars.
Speaker 4The Panthers Jacksonville by three and a.
Speaker 2Hey, it's another really tough one where Carolina maybe found a little magic at the end of last year.
No feeling's gone.
Now that they see that a little bit as a blow.
It opens the door for one of my Holy Cross guys.
They're Jalen Coker might get more opportunity this year.
But I'm gonna say this is Trevor Lawrence.
I don't want to see a back bounce back here.
I'm gonna say they're gonna win.
Jacksonville's gonna win this one this week.
I'll lay the points as well.
I just I love what they've got around him, and if he can put it together, and you play under the new Duvall coach, maybe they'll put it together.
Scurse some points.
Speaker 3I'll think people been talking about Travis Hunter, like how's he doing well?
Speaker 4He got hurt, so he missed I know, like the last preseason or the last two preseason games something like that.
But yeah, he's been he's been active, and I think they planted on playing them both ways.
Jaggs Jags, Jags, Jaggs for Alex.
Uh, I am going to take Jacksonville to win the game.
I'll take the hook the hook three and a half.
I'll take Carolina to lose by a field goal.
Speaker 3Uh.
This is going to be a bounced back season for Okay.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.
I think Jacksonville's Yeah, and I'm gonna take then a lot of good things about Liam Cohen.
I don't know if any of them are warranted, but I'm hearing a lot of good things.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 8Uh.
Speaker 3Sunday at one on CBS, the Cardinals are at the Saints.
Speaker 4Arizona by six and a.
Speaker 3Hay, that's a that's a big Week one spread on the road.
Yeah, it's gonna be helps you up the respect that the Saints aren't getting.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, they don't mean they didn't.
Speaker 3They don't have there, they don't have.
Speaker 4A lot of people think New Orleans is the worst team in football.
I would be one of those, Yeah, yeah, I would.
Speaker 2I would feel say, Hunter rat what's his spencer Ler Rattler, I'll take Arizona.
I'll drop all six and a half of those points.
Speaker 4All six and a half of them, the same thing.
Yeah, I agree with Fred.
It is a pretty big uh oh, you already did yours.
Okay, pretty big spread on the road in week one, but I'm going to take Arizona.
Speaker 3I am going to take Arizona as well both ways.
Sunday at one CBS Steelers.
Speaker 4At Jets, Pittsburgh by three.
Speaker 3Battle of the Quarterbacks.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is another one of those games where I just so hard to pick, but I think I'm going to this for Week one.
I'm going to go with the only known quantity I feel like is Mike Tomlin within this matchup and that defense.
So I'm gonna take Pittsburgh and I'll lay the points, give the Jets a week one loss.
Speaker 7Yeah, I'll probably ride with Pittsburgh two until they give me a reason not to.
Speaker 4Yeah.
I'm kind of in between on Pittsburgh.
You know, people seem to be all in or all out on Aaron Rodgers.
I think there'll be a continuation of what we've seen Pittsburgh to be like a nine and eight ten and seven kind of team.
I don't think he'll be a disaster.
I think this is a spot for the Jets though.
I don't think very many people are thinking much of the Jets, and this is when they sort of they like to like pull the rug out from under their fans, just to crush them a little bit more.
I think the Jets win outright in Week one and still still have a tough year, It just makes it all the much.
It's much harder for Jets fans to handle when they're they end up two and six.
Speaker 3Anyway, it was a tough game for hate watching because you want both of you want both of them to lose.
You know, if the Jets in then Aaron Rodgers loses, which is great.
But if Aaron the Steelers win, then the Jets lose, which is also great.
So I want them both to lose.
Possible more, Yeah, I guess so, So I'll go with the Steelers to win the game.
Speaker 18So that's it.
Speaker 4You know, we could definitely, do we have time, Yeah, we could definitely have a good PFW argument about that.
What would you want more to lose right now?
I think if you think you're going to be on the edge of the playoffs, you should be rooting against Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3That's right.
Speaker 4No one thinks the Jets are going to be in the playoff people.
Speaker 3Right, that's right.
Yeah, just saying yeah, it's true, it's true.
Speaker 4Just saying it's true.
Speaker 3Sunday at one on Fox, the Giants are at the Commanders.
Speaker 4Washington by six.
Speaker 2So this is another another one of these games where like Paul, you brought up the Giants, so like you know, making a case with Abdua Carter and you know they got a pass rush now Dexter Lawrence.
I mean, they got Molik Neighbors.
I mean they have some pieces and does Russell Wilson still have a little bit in the tank to you know, beat a really good Washington team.
Speaker 5I still think Washington's excellent.
Speaker 2I'm gonna take them to win, but I think Russell Wilson and that defense will keep it close.
I'll take the six points for the Giants.
Speaker 7Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing.
Speaker 6I'm not as high on Washington as I think I was last year after seeing them here in preseason, and it's just one of this is a game where I just have to see how it plays out.
Speaker 7Like, what are the Giants gonna look like, you know.
Speaker 5How does it all come together?
They've got talent.
Speaker 4It's just you know, folks, this is your this is your upset special of the week.
Speaker 2Did I steal it on you?
Speaker 3Well, not upset, but go ahead.
Speaker 4Okay, I'm gonna take the Giants out right.
Wow, I'm gonna take the Giants out right.
Have all the respect in the world for Jaden Daniels.
I do not think he was a flash in the pan.
I don't think it's gonna be a sophomore slump.
I just think it's hard to win by yourself every week, and I don't think that team's all that good.
And I kind of like what I this is probably I'm definitely gill of what I always rail against putting too much stock in something I saw in the summer, and I just felt like that team was more about the guys they weren't on the field.
The reaction on the sideline of the starters for the Giants throughout that game resonated with me for some reason.
I know it's stupid, it's meaningless, but I was impressed that that Dable had that team engaged.
Speaker 3Yeah, this is a lock of the week, just on the points though the Giants cover in this game, but they don't get it done.
Speaker 4So we all like the Giants.
It's interesting.
Speaker 3We do giants cover lock of the week?
Take the points?
Speaker 4Should I put that down as your lock of the way, Yes, that's why I said it.
Speaker 3This is what you say a lot of This is an interesting game.
Four or five on Fox.
By the way, I've skipped over the Patriots and we're moving to the four o'clock window.
Four or five on Fox, the Titans are at Denver.
Not only are the Denver at home, they're the only team already at one and oh so it's unbelievable have the league.
But yeah, so Titans at Denver.
Speaker 4You're you're right to say this is an intriguing game.
Denver by eight and a half.
I'd like to see Tennessee play this year.
I think this is a tough spot though, Like a Denver is a tough place to play because of the altitude and all.
Speaker 2The Cramward week one.
Yeah, first start.
Speaker 4At start, but Denver by eight and a hey, yeah, I've.
Speaker 2Seen Tom Brady struggle their enough to know it's a tough place to play.
And Denver locking up, Nick Benito taking care of some of their guys think fives will be good.
I'll take Denver and I'm gonna lay those points.
Speaker 7Yeah, biggest spread of the week, right, but yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, tied with Dallas and Philly.
I'm going to take Denver to win.
Also, I'm gonna take Yeah, I'll take Denver both ways.
But I think Tennessee is going to be improved.
I you know, I think it's gonna be the continuation of that rookie quarterback thing that gives a team a lift.
I think cam Wood's gonna be all right, but tough, tough one to start in Denver.
Speaker 3Yeah, chalk this game.
Speaker 4Uh, Broncos both ways, and I do think Denver is a pretty good team.
Speaker 3Yeah, four oh five on Fox, the forty nine Ers at the Seahawks.
Speaker 4I can't get enough of those divisional games.
Uh, San Francisco by two and a hay.
Speaker 2So Robert Salad back.
They lost some pieces there in San Francisco.
No more Depo or you know, Drake Greenlaw missed last season.
But I think San Francisco is gonna have a bounce back year.
I think they'll be back in command to the FC West.
I'm gonna take San Francisco dropped those points me too.
I'm curious to what Donald looks like in Seattle, Like does that you know what I mean?
Speaker 5Is he really good?
Speaker 2Or was that more Kevin O'Connell Minnesota justin Jefferson, you know, like, what's it look like?
Speaker 4It's a good point.
I'm going to take San Francisco both ways as well.
I do think the Niners are a good team and a talented team that got absolutely decimated last year.
I think they bounced back and win that division.
Speaker 3I'm gonna take the forty nine ers as well both ways.
I think that's a fairly easy one.
CBS for twenty five the Lions at the Packers.
Speaker 4This is actually a division game that I would be good interested in.
Green Bay by.
Speaker 2Two and a hay, just so many storylines to kind of dig in on, starting with Ben Johnson leaving Detroit's offense.
What's not going to look like now?
Still have a lot of pieces in place, you know, green Bay.
They just got a big boost bringing in Micah Parsons.
I still don't totally believe in Jordan Love though.
I just I haven't seen the consistency from him yet.
He still seems so up and down.
But I'm gonna go with green Bay at home in this one to hold serve Dan Campbill's been really good against the Packers, but I think they just have a little bit of juice and energy right now.
Speaker 1For week one at home, I'll take them and lay the points.
Speaker 7I'm gonna take green Bay at home, but I'm gonna give Detroit the points.
Speaker 2That's a close one.
Speaker 4I'm going to take Detroit both ways.
This will be the game, Mike that you and Fred will have to carry the post game show as I'm watching it.
So, yeah, I do think the Lions have had the Packers number.
And I love what you said about Jordan Love.
I think he has talent, but I don't think he's put it together, and I don't think he's ascended to a level that some people have put him at.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, my gut says Packers.
I'm gonna stick with my gut.
Usually when I lose, it's when I go against my instincts.
My instincts say Packers win this game.
Uh, CBS for twenty five, the Texans are at the Rams.
Speaker 4The Lar the Lar by three by three.
Speaker 3How Stafford You're gonna play?
Speaker 1He's I just I worry about him breaking down.
Speaker 4I think the Rams are really good, but if he doesn't play, it ain't really good.
Speaker 2And that's why.
Speaker 4Yeah, the same.
Speaker 2I'm going to go with an upset here on the road, and I'm going to take Houston and c.
J.
Stroud and I think they kind of continue their ascension and putting things together.
Solid football team down there with the Texans.
Speaker 7I'm taking that upset too.
Speaker 4Can't go against my guy.
I'll take the Laar.
I think at least he plays to start the season.
I don't know how long, on how many games.
Stafford at thirty seven is gonna be able to play with a bad back, but then they get off to a good start.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Rams as well.
For this game eight twenty Sunday Night Football on NBC in Universo.
Good matchup the Ravens at the Bills, rematch of last year's memorable Divisional Round game.
Baltimore the road favorite by one and a hay one and a hey, a lot of people think Baltimore is the best team in football.
No, why talent, but like.
Speaker 5Specifically, is there something new that they've done?
Speaker 3No, but they they're perennial double digit team.
Jim Harbor Harbaugh, the head coach.
Speaker 4I think they've had fewer bad than some of the other good teams.
Speaker 5I just I didn't know if something changed this year.
Speaker 2They're very popular pick right now and a lot of people are very high, and I just, you know, I get why continuation, but I shouldn't know what there wasn't really a big change.
Speaker 3A lot of people think they have to get off the hump at some point.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know, well, I don't think they're gonna be.
I'm gonna take the bills.
I hear you at Home as Home Dogs.
Josh Allen, he's a married man now, happy content with his life.
I just had a great movie Sinners made him cry.
Yeah, it was that emotional, Paul, I know.
So Yeah, I'm gonna go with Josh.
Allen's ready to ready to drop bombs.
Speaker 6I really would like to see Baltimore win a Super Bowl, which sounds weird to.
Speaker 7Say, but I think Buffalo is going to open it up at it Home Dogs.
Speaker 5I'm going to go with Yeah.
Speaker 4I think both of these teams are excellent.
I'm gonna take Baltimore to win the opener.
I think that they get the regular season over Buffalo and then Buffalo sort of turns the tables on them in the postseason.
But two really good teams.
I think they'll both be playing great well into January.
It's a great Sunday night game, one that I might even stay up to watch the second half listening on.
Speaker 2You know, if you'll be jacked up off a Patriots win.
Speaker 4I mean if it's a blowout at halftime, you know, like last year.
I think Baltimore blew them out on a Sunday night game and I didn't really stay up to watch that.
Speaker 3Listen, listen if you're a Bills fan, watch your fingers, because the windows slamming shut again.
Speaker 5Here we go, Here we go again.
Speaker 4Morell did you put together that montage I asked for him closing the window on Buffalo's success.
Speaker 3I'm going with the Ravens started.
Speaker 4In twenty eighteen.
You can just go back and get the tape.
Speaker 3I'm going with the Ravens to win the game, opening up the AFC East for your new England Patriots.
Here we go, let's go, ra Let's go.
Speaker 4I don't think Ira is a huge clapper.
All A just you are.
A description of our A is the most perfect description ever.
Speaker 3He collapsed.
Speaker 4He just looks like he could poop a piece of toilet like toilet paper, like, you know, he's so tight yet it, Mike, He's so tight, but cheeks is so close together, Mike, he poops paper.
Speaker 15Get it?
Speaker 3Let's go Ravens all right?
Monday night on ESPN, ABC, ESPN, ESPN de Portes.
So why does it have to be on ESPN any ESPN two.
Can't they put figure skating.
Speaker 2On his broadcast?
Maybe they have a bunch of the Manning.
Speaker 4Cast on ESPN two usually, but they don't do one for every single game.
Speaker 3I don't know if they know what there is for this week.
I saw that.
Speaker 4Well, of course it's another division game, so why not have a Manning's there to talk about?
Speaker 3Vikings at the Bears?
Speaker 4Uh, Minnesota by one and a hay.
Speaker 2So again, just another great match up.
Ben Johnson going there to Chicago.
Plenty of talent around, Caleb Williams.
Caleb william has plenty of talent, you know, Colston Lovelin, Like we talked about the other day that they just keep bringing guys in and you know, is it all going to come together in Minnesota?
Speaker 3Now?
Speaker 2It's we saw JJ McCarthy there, it's more impressed with him.
The second day, I think they'll be even better, you know, obviously when they have Justin Jefferson in there.
So I'm going to take Minnesota to hold on and I'll lay that point and a half.
But I just I wonder Chicago's gonna start getting it going because I think if they do start getting it going, they could be really good.
Speaker 7Minnesota, Minnesota.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm gonna take the Bears at home.
I think, you know, one and a half.
Not much of an upset.
I do like I do like Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3It feels bad.
Speaker 4I don't feel bad for him.
I think I think he's kind of a dude.
I don't really feel bad for you.
No, I just think that because he cried, his talent was lessened somehow.
That's the disconnect that he can get.
But in terms of being like a leader and all that stuff, I think that's warranted it.
Speaker 2No, I do not.
Speaker 3But I pity the fool correct very well.
Speaker 4Put No, and you know what this is.
This is really a pick, I think.
And Monday night to open the season, it's Soldier Field is not a great way to make your debut.
If you're JJ McCarthy, so this is more of a pick against him than it is for the Bears.
Speaker 3Fair enough, I think the Minnesota Vikings, off the momentum of their preseason Week two win over the Patriots, ride that wave.
Speaker 4That's interesting because they lost the game.
They're saying they ride that wave practice they lost the game.
This is like when he tried to say the Patriots actually beat Houston in the last game of the year when Wes Welker towards a cl Paul.
Speaker 3They lost the game, but they won the week.
Speaker 4Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 4That's largely true from those most of the writers.
I wasn't there.
Speaker 3I wasn't there either.
Speaker 4That's true.
Speaker 3You weren't.
I forgot, I went, I came late.
I was no But I think the vice was there.
Speaker 4He says that they won the Day two.
Speaker 3Yeah, Day two, I think the Vikings win the game.
I don't have faith in the in the Bears.
Yeah.
Speaker 4I don't have a lot of faith in the Bears either.
Speaker 3This is kind of and this isn't a Caleb Williams thing, by the way, I do.
Speaker 4Think Caleb Williams is pretty good.
Speaker 2I just think there's a lot of characters like Ben Johnson strikes me as a character, Caleb Williams strikes me as a character.
DJ Moore is a character.
Like There's just a lot of guys with personalities that are unique and maybe you will all go together.
But all right, sorry, it's one fifty nine.
Speaker 3Now we go back to the Patriots Sunday at one on CBS for those of you who want to know where to watch CBS.
The Raiders at the Patriots.
Speaker 4Oh sorry, Patriots by three line move from two and a hay to three.
Speaker 3Something's up?
Speaker 2Sums up?
Where's the sharps?
Where do the sharps know?
I'm gonna go with Patriots on this one.
I think it'll be back and forth game, maybe some sloppiness, you know, big play here, big play there, But I think in the end they pull it out a low scoring game.
I'm going to say twenty one to seventeen Patriots.
Speaker 7Now, do I hedge my bet from all access?
Speaker 15Or do I?
Speaker 2You can change the score rate, you can't change the pick.
Speaker 5Okay, I don't know if you.
Speaker 4Can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2Just right now.
Speaker 4I'm just gonna call it out if.
Speaker 2You do, and you're wearing a custom Patriots.
Speaker 7I know, Okay.
Speaker 6My thinking is last year we came out and won and it gave everyone a ton of false hope, and then the rest of the season was misery.
So you don't want them the first game and then it's only up from there.
Speaker 2And I don't know, you don't have to kid, it's me, Alex, it's your pick.
Speaker 6I just look at the Raiders, and I think a lot of people overlook this game.
But there's something to be said that Pete Carroll and Gino have been together quite a while, and I don't know, I could see Vegas twenty seven Patriots twenty four torture.
Speaker 2He's tortured.
Speaker 3I don't look up the number of times a game that the Raiders were involved in that one of the teams had twenty four points.
You'll be amazed.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's amazing.
I'm going to take the Patriots in this game in a similar kind of game that Mike just described.
I think that they have the home field will be impactful.
I think there's a lot of energy here.
Fred sort of talked about there should be more excitement.
I think there's a lot of excitement for the start of the season, and I think they're going to get a good environment to play in twenty three seventeen New England, but not an easy game.
Game that could go either way, absolutely toss up game.
I'm hoping it doesn't come down to a field goal because the Raiders have an enormous edge with Daniel Carlson, so I'm hoping it's a six point thing and they need a touchdown at the end.
But I think the running game for the Patriots is a little better than Ashton genty for the Raiders.
Speaker 3Er Okay, yes, Patriots twenty four twenty, So they squeak out the win and the cover.
It'll be a tough game.
Speaker 7Yeah, I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 3Yeah, it'll be a tough game.
They'll be at moments there where might look a little like last year offensive wise, but there'll be other bright moments.
So have no fear.
Patriots pull it out twenty four to twenty.
Another game in which there's twenty four is involved with the Raiders.
Speaker 4I'm going to need to hear more about this off are okay?
Speaker 3All right?
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