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Called in last week and made a statement regarding May's fourth quarter comeback against the Ravens.

I stated that they are one of the top rated defenses in the league as of late, to which Paul retorted that.

They are not.

While I understand your role as the bad guy and your tendency to disagree with the majority of takes.

Facts are facts, and numbers don't lie.

My thing is when Paul like misinterprets the point you're trying to make, and then he starts arguing against the point you weren't trying to make, and now you're like, that's not See.

The thing I've learned over by thirty years with Paul Perillo is that he has a lot of arguments going on.

It's a lot of takes that he's getting ready to defend down the road, strategic and that's a lot of what's going on with him.

I see right through it.

I see right through it.

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All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

It is Christmas Eve here at Jillette Stadium, and the gang's all here.

It'll be Deuce and Evan and Paul and Me and Alex later Alex and Matt and the booth.

We're all here to bring in Christmas for you and also get ready for this matchup with the New Jersey Jets on Sunday.

Perfect.

Yes, absolutely, I heard Evan.

You pooh pooing the whole thing that this might be a tough game.

I heard you want catch twenty two.

I heard you say that you pooh pooed it.

I'm with Evan the reason why that's your touchdown favorites.

Yes, am, I am?

I My laughter didn't didn't do it enough?

Yeah, I mean, come on, like what this is the worst team in the league.

It is, but even the worst team in the league, you know, what's the NFL.

Sometimes things happen.

You don't believe that.

Like what if?

What if?

Like you know, Drake Mega's for turnovers, I don't even think that for a team that's forced three all year, all season.

I literally think that some something like meteor would have to strike the state.

What everyone that has been banged up doesn't play?

Patriots win by three touchdowns?

Okay, this team is I hope right.

This team is actually terrible and I and I don't normally say that, like I try to find reasons.

I think they've given up on this, right, and those are two hand in hand things.

But like they defensively, they're in absolute disarray.

They fired their defensive coordinator.

Offensively, Brady Cook has nothing to do with their future they're just finishing out the string with Brady Cook as their quarterback.

This is as uninspiring of an offense as I've watched all season long.

Watching their tape over the last week, I mean like, there's just nothing that I can come up with to tell you that this is going to be anything remotely worrisome for the Patriots.

So I do think it's funny that I heard I'm Paul shows a little bit some like, you know, well, it's the holidays and it's a weird time of year, and like, please please, That's.

Why I'm not sure that they'll score fifty, because that's the holidays and they might have a little let down.

Yeah, I'm going to take the role of Fred this week.

Yeah, you knowed in three tough schedule.

Bill would score fifty on this team on Sundays.

Yeah, for sure.

Mike Rabel might say let's call off the dots.

It might be smarter to you know, if the game gets like that, to get some guys out and just sort of throttle it down into a giant second half.

That would be the smart.

Thing to do.

Sure, I agreed one thing that you said, Evan that I thought well among others, But one thing that I'm hoping comes true is that the Jets might do things in this game that the Patries have had trouble with over the last few weeks, and so that it becomes sort of a tune up game.

It's a classic tune up game for talk about that a little bit.

This is like this is like when you know Alabama schedules like Alcorn State at the beginning of the season, and like the result is never the question, Like they win by seventy, right, but they feel good about themselves off the game.

You know, maybe they fix some things in game that they haven't been going great.

That's where I want to stop.

Are you able to fix some things if the team is not putting up a fight?

Well, I think you're able to do some of that.

I mean, this is the NFL, Like this is not you know, we're still talking about bres Hall.

We're still talking about NFL players.

But all of a sudden, if the Patriots are stopping the run, is that, you know real or is it?

Well, the Jets really weren't.

I think that you can you can do things and from like almost like a muscle memory standpoint of like we're going to play better technique, we're going to be more physical, and that I do think can help you come into your own a little bit.

You know, I can use the comparison of you know, the eighteen team that beat up on the Jets and the Bills in the last two weeks of the season, and they use that as a launching pad into a playoff run, and I there's not the same exact situation, but I think that it's similar enough that in these two games.

You know, the Jets in bress Hall have can run the ball a little bit.

Their numbers aren't great, but they have the personnel to be able to run the ball a little bit.

That's obviously been an issue for the Patriots.

And I'd say the next week.

You know ve Chan plays, you know the Dolphins have run the ball all year pretty well.

Yeah, I think next week they could get that test.

I agree, because even down the stretch here with Miami, they've been running the ball pretty well.

He's really good.

HeSE Hall's kind of been out of the lineup a little bit.

But the eighteen analogy is a good one.

I would have been the first one to argue with Fred then, just going back to my argumentative nature, I would have argued with Fred, you can't learn anything with those two games.

I would still argue stubbornly admittedly that that particular aspect was a little bit overrated.

But they went on.

They got the ship righted with those two games at the end of the year, and they went on into the playoffs, and Sony Michelle was, you know, a big part of the way they played in those first two playoff games and ran the ball and ended up winning another title that a lot of people didn't see coming.

I like that you have an opportunity to play for something in these last two weeks too, So I just I think coming out of the game where maybe you can complete the perfect road record eight to zero against the Jets, then you can come home and you know, maybe you're playing for the division and maybe you win that game and you win the division.

So both of these games could result in a little celebration.

Good vibes, like feeling like you're accomplishing something, not where you get into some of these Week eighteen games and you're like, let's just survive, let's just hope nobody gets hurt.

I mean, I'm sure that there's an element of that too for this team.

But you know, it actually has something to play for and when you win these games, to have a tangible result that you can say, hey, we're adding to what we did this season.

And I think those things are good for for momentum.

And you know, we'll see about that number one seed that that's still on my mind too.

Yeah, if your point Fred about you know, NFL and anything, you're you're right, and you can never just say there's no possible way.

But it would have to require a lot of Patriots help, you know, the turnovers.

The one area that the Jets are really good in is special teams.

I think they have three or four returns for touchdowns, so allow you know, allow a kick return for a touchdown.

Kick coverage has been a little leaky to the point where they would you know, mostly calling for touchbacks.

The other night, I think they only had two returns allowed and out of the six or so kicks, so allow a lower return and turn the ball over a couple of times and fall behind and all of a sudden, you know, the other team maybe decides, hey, we might be able to steal one and spoil something for the Patriots.

But that would be, in my view, the only way because if it's just a game that gets played out normally with no turnovers, nothing, you know, outside them, I just I can't I can't see Brady Cook.

This isn't that Brady.

It's a different breed.

And the Jets pressure isn't that good.

Where May is going to have huge amounts of problem.

No, they don't get a lot of.

I mean they mix it up a lot.

Will McDonald's okay, and you know they have they have some pieces.

But you know, I think Evan said that they're tackles, I mean, variable pointed out their tackles are getting pretty good plays, so you know there are some challenge, which is I think Patriots.

Sounds like Tonga's got a one to two week injury according to Ian Rappaport, so he's likely to be out.

I'm not really banking on mill wounds being back out there, and the way he sounded his locker yesterday, it sounds like it's.

Still a feel it out process.

So they really might have, you know, bar more dirtin Eric Gregory, Jeremiah Farms gets promoted maybe like those I mean they're gonna be they're gonna be scraping the barrel with some of these guys.

Well, you know, Jets could play ball possession football and Breest Hall slow down the game, keep the score down.

They could do that for four quarter.

If he plays, he might not even play.

They could do that to start the game, and maybe it's a little bit closer than you want it to be in like the first quarter, but they're not gonna be able to sustain that.

Like eventually Drake may is gonna start scoring.

And at that point, I mean, if it was just one side of the ball with the Jets, then I would be like, okay, Like their defense is pretty good and you know, kind of like Cleveland.

Cleveland has a great defense.

So in the second half again Buffalo that their defense came alive and they were able to give Josh Allen some problems.

I just I don't see on either side of the ball, like where the real dilemmas?

All right, Well, the games in hand, So let's talk about is Diehard at Christmas movie?

I'm only kidding, I.

Said on Catshwoyne too.

I had ten minutes on the Jets.

That's all.

Like it's it's one of those games that like you.

Don't really think, no, it's not a Christmas movie.

No, you don't really think it is going to be like a tougher game closer than people think he does.

Like the Miami You can make an argument for Miami.

I don't think that's going to be either, but I can listen to that.

I say, seventy percent of me says it's not going to be a tough game.

But there's that thirty percent that says it's the NFL, it's a division game, it's the Jets.

You know, if if Justin Fields or Tyrod Taylor were playing and I saw any semblance of a pulse from the Jets defense over the last say six weeks and Breese Hall was sort of engaged, yeah, I could say it's the NFL.

Anything could happen, blah blah blah.

But none of those things have happened.

Like the Jets games have been pretty much over pretty quickly.

And Brady Cook, I mean, I'm not this is not a disrespect to him.

I mean he's thrust into a role that he's not ready for.

He's an undrafted rookie.

I think he's undrafted.

Yep.

It was kind of mid in college.

He wasn't a great college quarterback at Missouri.

Doesn't have a ton to work with it.

Like it's John Metchi and ad Mitchell.

There's two wide receivers.

You know, Garrett Wilson's not, you know, not playing.

Breese Hall hasn't been playing.

Maybe he comes back and plays this game.

I don't even think Mason Taylor played the last game, you know, you know, kind of a promising young tight end, rookie tight end.

They just I don't really see where they go to make it an interesting game.

Yeah, I think you can make the case for Miami.

And Miami has been sort of spunky and.

It takes a hit that they benched Tua finally and it's gonna be quinn yours instead of two.

But for a half he looked all right.

Now he didn't didn't play very well in the second half.

Like a chan waddle.

Like those guys are talented players, right did The Jets don't have any of that, Like they traded Sauce Gardner and Quentin Williams.

Garrett Wilson's not playing.

Bristol doesn't want to be there.

He requested a trade and they didn't give.

It to him.

He wants out.

Uh.

Their tackles I think are building blocks, but they're not.

You don't build a team to beat the Patriots around two young tackles.

So come in boasting you two young tackles, like, we're gonna pull it up set because we got two good tackles.

Yeah, but I those guys.

If you're starting to talk about, like how did the Jets pull out of this kind of messy thing?

I think Fashanu and Membu are gonna be good players.

Yeah, but they look like two picks.

It's like to your only building blocks, you know, yeah, gar.

We and unfortunately, their draft picks haven't really been a huge problem, Like they just keep tating they've done okay with their draft picks.

You know, I'm not saying that every one of them was a home run.

But don't they get good and then they they get.

Some good players and they don't have a good player where it counts, and it's hard to it's hard to overcome that.

Yeah, yep, okay, Jets.

I'm sorry.

I don't like being disrespectful.

No, all right, I try to hype up the other teams just a little bit.

So, as we talked about, the Patriots do have a lot to play for.

There's that perfect road record that they'd like to keep intact.

And if the Patriots win and later on the Bills lose to the Eagles in Buffalo, it's a four to twenty five game.

The Patriots have the AFC East.

I don't think that outcome is going to happen.

I think the Bills are going to win that game.

The Eagles already, they've already Josh.

All stunned, he has already locked up.

I think Buffalo is gonna win.

I'm stunned you think that.

Well, I'm being realistic here.

I think the Eagles don't have as much to play for and they're going in the wrong direction despite having the NFC East.

So I think the Bills, you know, are you know, they got a good draw here and a good and they're in a good spot.

I would say.

I think Josh Allen missed the walk through yesterday.

Yeah, Josh, he's just getting ready.

His second half against his second half against Cleveland was not.

Good because he couldn't move you see it.

Yeah, the play happened at the end of the first half, which, by the way, another officiating a safety.

Yeah, it's clearly a safety.

And I don't like I'm not like you people.

I don't really care who wins all these games, you people, you know, because that the league thinks that they for you people, that the league favors the bills.

You know this, Come on, you know that that's a bad calling.

I think I did.

So he scrambled around one of those like you know, he was twenty yards behind the line of scrimmage and he ended up slipping.

Right at the goal line.

I didn't see that, Okay.

So he's down on the ground on the goal line and he's trying to reach the ball out.

The ball does not go all the way out like It's just like when you break the plane of the goal line to score a touchdown.

It's the same thing for a safety.

It has to go all the way out.

It was like the Titans guy in the super If it breaks the plane of the goal line, it's considered to be in the.

End zone, right, So the parity of the ball has to be outside of the goal line.

That makes sense, And it wasn't.

And they deemed that he had given himself up.

At the one.

He didn't give.

Himself up, still making an act.

He was trying to get the ball out of the end zone because he rightly, he smartly said oh no, this is going to be a safety.

You never noticed that the refs hate giving up safeties.

Yeah, everything, they yes, that's a great point.

Everything in their power to not call it a safety.

They do.

They should just get rid of the rule because you're right, yeah, yeah.

You know, how many times do you see intentional grounding in the end zone and you know there's a guy like they do, they seem very reluctant to call.

All right, I'm with you on that one.

The foot thing for Josh Allen is interesting.

He did not play like himself in the second half against Cleveland, and the Browns to you know, stayed in the game.

As The reason why I think that's a big deal is they were dominant before that.

The first three times they got the ball, these touchdowns, they went, you know, that vaunted Cleveland defense, bang bang bang, and then he got hurt and Evan's right, it was kind of a struggle in the second half.

They got some points set up by the defense to just to do just enough to to win.

If you know, it's incredible Browns had any semblance of an offense, they might have been able to win that game.

As tough, Like I said, he's not I mean, in his defense, I just don't think he's right.

It's not.

Tough team to depend on.

He makes a few plays him that well, you know, he's.

A gamer, but his arm isn't that strong.

He's pretty accurate.

I think he's accurate.

I don't think his arms that's wrong.

He's not a very good athlete, and I think he kind of operates.

Like he's a really good athlete.

Yeah, and he runs around a lot and gets run down like Greg Russo.

Just like.

There's some uh, you know, weird things to play calling wise with the Browns, where as Joe Murray would say a little smelly.

Yeah, well certainly that game against Tennessee.

Yeah, that two point conversion.

Yeah, the two point conversion.

And then last week they had like a third and three in the red zone and down three I think it was, or down whatever it was, and I threw a pass behind the line of scrimmage that lost yardage and then they kicked the field goal on fourth down.

I think they were down six.

I think it was twenty three seventeen.

Yeah.

I yelled at the TV and instead of like you know what, everybody was like, whoa they had to kick on four I'm not talking about fourth down.

I'm talking about third down, Like it's third and four and you don't throw the ball five yards pass, you can't throw the ball past the sticks.

Yeah, I think I know the players.

It was weird.

Yeah, I thought the Browns were gonna at least I figured the Bills would win the game.

But I thought the Browns were going to take the lead in the second half, and then that kind of self destruction happened.

It was a little smelly, I agree.

Changes How do you feel about Josh Allen and the Bills right now?

Like, I just watching enough of them over the years and this last few weeks, just watching you know, what he did here, what he did last week, and it just and they have James Cook, so they're not completely barren, but it just feels like they put so much on him, and he puts so much on himself that like they're just going to drain his life force every season until he's.

Going to be like a shell of himself in the thirties.

And then I feel like it's going to be like l Way and he's got to learn to play from the pocket and not run as much any you know, Like I just I don't I say this is a neutral fan, I'll take off my Patriots fan hat.

If I was a Bills fan, I would just be doing what the Patriots were like, clamoring for some dynamic weapons for this guy because and I don't even know if it helps, because it almost seems like he's at his best when he pulls it all on himself.

But we're seeing him start to get a little banged up.

He's getting older, Like I just it's gonna be harder for him to continue to just take the team on his back every single season.

I think if I was a Bills fan, yeah, I'd be looking for more weapons, but I'd also be frustrated with my defense, the breakdowns that they have, well.

Their defense has gotten old, and then you know they they haven't drafted particularly well on that side of the ball to replace some of those guys like Milano and Hide and Employer and Tredevius White's now back after you know, I'm trying to move on from Tredevius White.

But I do think that they've done a better job of running the ball conventionally with count Allen being involved, which does take a little bit off of his plate.

They can ride James Cook like they can.

You know, they have a great offensive line and they have a really good running back, and they can they can say we're gonna put Alan under center and we're just gonna hand it to James Cook twenty five times and that can be productive for them, which is not the way that it was two or three years ago.

So that should translate, you know, to January.

They need to reset, you know, I've been talking about that with Kansas City.

I think Buffalo and I think they did.

I think they sort of sort of recalibrated on the fly, and they've missed some Like Evan said that, you know, some of the draft picks and just like Christian Benford was a low round pick that really hit for them, But they took a corner in the first round in kyer Elam who was a colossal bust.

So that's you can't do that.

And I know that you might just look at it and say, well it evens out in the wash.

It doesn't because you needed to have those guys.

You need a first round pick to be a good player.

That's there, Nikhil Harry, Jacoby Myers.

Right, So that's a really bad pick.

Now they need they're gonna need to find some you know, like Khalishakir.

That's a really good draft pick.

I think it was like a fifth or sixth round pick.

Fourth was he that high?

All right?

So fourth round pick, that's a really good pick.

He can't be your best receiver.

He can't.

He's not.

He's not a good enough player.

He's like a three.

So they're gonna need to find a way.

You can't miss with the key On Coleman pick.

You can't miss with the kyar Elum pick.

This Hairston kid this year has showing some flashes.

He looks like he can play a little bit.

But Evan's right, they they've gotten a little old.

I still I still fear him, you know, but then yeah, so but I just look at Buffy you like you you asked the question, like for all of these things that are wrong with Buffalo, they're a game behind you who and everything has gone right for you?

So, like how bad are they?

Because the quarterback would be the quarterback.

Exactly exactly now.

Sunday I think was as predictable as anything they had, Like this shootout win against Tampa, this like in the snow, like really emotional game against Cincinnati.

You know, you know, you know, smashed around that the you know, a huge twenty one point comeback in Foxborough.

Now you're going to Cleveland.

You know, you don't need your best to beat Cleveland.

I mean that's why I know we all I think we all took Buffalo to win the game.

In Cleveland to cover.

I think we all got it right.

Yeah, exactly.

I did I think it would be that close to a loss.

Probably not, but I thought that would be one of.

Those games where you're, like, what do you do in Buffalo?

Just put them away?

Yeah, because you just can't play at that level every week.

Yeah, they don't have enough that it's going to look better than that when you're on cruise control.

You know what I'm saying.

For sure, last year, that game on Cruise Control is a ten ten point win instead of a three point win.

They've made some weird picks, like they've missed a little bit.

The Kincaid's a good player, but it's not a needle moving pick in the first round, you know, especially the way that they play like they can't play them all the time because you can't block, so like they actually play Dawson Knox like just as much as they played in Kaid because he's a better blocker.

So like in Kid is really a third down specialist for them or past game specialist.

Uh, you know Max harriston their first round pick.

Last year's corner has been hurt and I was iffy on him to begin with.

We'll see what ends up happening with it.

He's been okay since he came back.

Yeah, but yeah he missed the first whatever part of you think he's opened the season on ir Yeah.

Yeah, Paul mentioned Kyrie Illam like those are like those are like their last like three first round picks.

Eland's been on like three or four teams like in a short period of time.

That was a bad pick.

Well, I mean so everybody thought it was a bad pick when they made it.

Yeah, that smells a little bit like the Patriots draft picks.

And you know, the late two thousands, you had a quarterback who was able to, you know, keep you going.

I guess just the difference for me is that whereas Brady was able to play into his forties because he wasn't putting himself in harm's way.

How long can you expect Josh Allen to continue to be Superman?

And take the hits, and you know when the guy have it plays, he's bowling guys.

Over him because he have a Cam new trajectory.

It's gonna people he's a much better passion than I.

Think that will allow him to to have much more long.

Term People have used the Cam Newton comparison, where like when you are Superman and you're running as much as he is and putting your body out in But.

I'll give you like the reason why I don't think it's and I understand why people make the comp But when it was twenty twenty, right, that was the COVID year that we had Cam, he what did you think of him as a runner that year?

So that part didn't deteriorate, but he can't throw it.

Did a little bit, do you know what I mean?

So I don't think it was as much a physical deterioration.

It's this not like the glaring weaknesses of him not being able to throw were on full display.

He was still a runner.

But when that's all you can do.

And as Evan just alluded to, what I agree with Evan just said, he wasn't like Lamar Jackson as a runner.

Was it was amit Newton in the prime runner.

He was a physical runner, but he wasn't running away from people.

But he couldn't throw.

He wasn't accurate enough.

Yeah, Cam in the open field with Carolina and with Auburn was something.

Differential to play for Auburn.

Uh.

I can't even remember who it was against, but we were I remember we were in San Diego.

This is how vividly I remember it.

We were in San Diego watching the game on a Saturday and he just ran away from that at the last minute, and it was just like, man, that guy, he's just different.

You could just see he was operating at a different level of everybody.

And this is sec football.

His season at Auburn might be one of the best college football seasons of all time.

You know, it's it's up there, all right.

How was your Buffalo?

Thank you?

I appreciate it.

I appreciate that.

Thank you, guys.

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Jeremiah writes in about the Jets.

He says they're playing for the number one pick and their coach has job security for next year, so I do not see the Jets doing anything to even try and win this game.

I say this game is going to be a very comfortable win.

I do too.

I'm not so sure about Aaron Glenn's he's going to be there.

Next So I did someone probably did he did he get a vote of confidence.

I did not hear that.

I think.

I think to be a one and done you have to have a lot of really sort of bad things happen.

We just saw it, you know here up close.

I think a lot of those kinds of things have been happening with the Jets.

I wouldn't say that he's a guarantee to be back now.

He probably will be Fred You're right, probably probably going to be but that kind of dysfunction generally.

You know what about Stefanski, he seems bulletproof.

I think Stefanski is a pretty good coach.

Maybe just needs to go this time.

But like maybe one Kevin said, like some snippy calls, here's a couple of games.

I mean, he's never really gotten to pick his quarterback, has he.

I mean, like, you want to talk about a draft, I saw this on Twitter this week, like they had a tremendous draft with the exception of these two quarterbacks you know kind of can't play, and it kind of just created a controversy, like you took these two, you know, later round guys and Gabriel and Sanders, who I don't think either one of them is going to be the future, and all it's done is create turmoil for you.

But you know the defensive line, Mason Graham is, you know, looks exactly the part, like everybody thought, just a good, solid, workman like interior defensive lineman.

That the linebacker has been terrific.

Yeah, defensive is it Dylan Sampson, It's like been a good like kind of sub backer.

Yeah, yeah, sweahing jerk and my win defensive Rookie of the Year.

Yeah, So like that, they had a really good draft.

And I know that he's not necessarily making all the picks but the quarterback stuff.

And then sort of like I'm calling the plays.

No, I'm not calling the plays now, Tommy Reese is calling them.

He's it might be time.

He still seems like the guy gets fired gets snapped right up.

That make me it doesn't even I think he gets a second chance.

He just for some reason, and I mean I think he's done well with what he's had, but he has respect that kind of Transcendsland might have to coordinate again.

With Mike right away he gets me chance.

I think I think he's considered to be a reputation pretty good offensive mine, and I just I think people look at him and say he's been able to win reasonably well without a quarterback, and they wonder what we do with a quarterback.

I think he's a two time Coach of the Year.

Yeah, I have a tough time with him as an offensive mind.

I am not overly impressed.

I think he has a system, and I think the system stable and sound.

But like I don't watch Cleveland games and be like, wow, what a scheme.

But but I think that their scheme is is.

Stable.

Like I think that you can put players in the quarterbacks, especially, and it's not a cumbersome offense to run, and it's smooth and he knows what he's doing and like all those different types of things.

But I don't think that he's like some like unbelievable play designer where I'm like blown away by what they're doing schematically, but they're you know, we don't have to get too much into Cleveland, but.

You know that that Cleveland draft.

I left out, so Mason Graham, quinch On Judkins, then you know Schweisinger, Harold Fannin yeh, and Dylan Sampson, Like I said, you know, sort of sub running back.

The two quarterbacks in there kind of make I think they created turmoil.

I might even this is less about their ability as it is, like it didn't make sense to draft both of them.

The only thing I'd push back on is the Mason Graham pick, the most predictable pick of the draft, Like similar to gent d he's a good player, but they need difference makers and he's not want.

Let's see.

Barton Poland says the game that we really should be watching is Chargers against Houston.

He says, we really need the Chargers to win.

That's the only way they don't their starters versus Denver in Week eighteen.

This is a very good point by bart that I happen to agree with for exactly the reason.

He's definitely right that it's a big game.

I'm still watching Buffalo, Like I think for this team it's important to to win the division.

I think it means a lot to them.

I think it means a lot to Rabel.

You know his introductory press conference, take advantage of bad football, win the division, compete for championships like those.

Were the post home playoffs.

Well, yeah, but you do that automatically.

I I like it's but like he said both and I was like, well, if you win the division, Mike like, uh, yeah, but that is that is a big like objective, and I think that it's it's really important for them to finish this thing off in tangible Yeah.

But the point about the number one seed I think is ex accurate.

You know, the Chargers, if they if they don't have anything to play for, they're as banged up as any team in.

The league, they'll shut it down.

I think I think they could be guys.

Now, they might not win in Denver anyway, but if they don't necessarily have anything to play for, it's important.

Anthony wants to know.

Can you guys recall a time where three teams who have been juggernauts in a conference all needed to seriously retool their teams?

The Chiefs, Ravens, and Bills all need serious rehauls, although maybe not as much for Buffalo given their success.

Doesn't think the race a lot of talent.

I think their talent isn't the issue.

I think that the coach might.

Need and Lamar got hurt.

Yeah, and you could make the same argument for Lamar as who are trying to talk about with you know, is too much on him?

Is that what's going to happen because he has been I mean Josh Allen plays every game La does.

Yeah.

I mean Lamar got hurt and then got hurt again, and now he's hurt again, and.

He's missed games pretty much regularly.

I would say, I don't say every year, but at least three three different seasons he's missed games.

I think Baltimore would be in the playoffs.

I faver didn't get it.

I agree Ashton wants to know, with our lack of pass rush, how is Swinson done with his chances?

He was fantastic at LSU.

He hasn't had any He hasn't had any chances.

Yeah, I've been playing on special teams.

Should he have chances?

I mean I would assume that if he's secretly really good, that they would be playing him.

I don't think that.

The question is about Ponder and I think he's been I mean or nothing.

Yeah, he had a decent game when they're using him on the inside against Buffalo, but then last week it wasn't as well good.

But I just for better or worse, I think that there's something to Landry and Chase on have been their guys.

I think Rabel's loyal to Landry especially, and I think it's going to take something like an injury or something severe for them to not go down them with the ship.

With those two guys being their their bookend edge rushers.

It was tough watching Landry back on this one.

I just I don't think he has any bursts right now.

It just it seems like he's playing through something significant and I'm not sure it's going to get better this year and.

It's probably still playing right.

And my bigger question is just to get to the off season.

How much do they focus on that in free agency in the draft, that edge spot.

It's just, you know, even Chased on him and I like him, but I think I'd like him best if he was like the third guy part of the rotation, that you had three guys that you felt comfortable with on any down.

In this game, they took him off the field on early downs.

They put to Vaian Jennings on the edge on rundowns.

So I think they agree with you, like he's really a situational pass rusher.

Yeah, in his ideal role.

Quick.

I mean you gotta love the effort at the end.

I mean that the pursuit to go back to that at the end was tremendous.

Now you had the number about how much they were sort of targeting those guys both both sides, but mostly to the left, and that's probably why Evans pointing about them taking them out.

Yeah, yeah, Chase was tough.

Yeah, eight five five pats five hundred is the hotline.

Let's get to it.

Sean's and Vancouver.

What's up Sean?

And yesterday, Mike I implement to on the nineteen eighty five Patriots podcast.

So I have a game for you guys on that.

All right, I got an unfair advantage, I think.

Well, no, but you know you've been doing the work, so Mike, you can you can chime in on this for sure.

And in nineteen ninety six, Patriots Director of person player personnel Bobby Greer clashed with Parcels over draft decisions, which led to build Parcels leaving the team after the Super Bowl.

LOFs what role did Bobby Greer have with the nineteen eighty five New England Patriots?

I know, Bobby college scouting director.

I don't know.

I just got wait, hold on, there's no way I'm trying to say.

Yeah, it was a Robbie running back.

Yeah, yeah, it's an offensive backfield coach.

You're right, yep, there you go.

Okay, next question.

The Patriots selected center Trevor Matage twenty eighth overall nineteen eighty five draft.

What college did he attend?

Why are you there?

You go?

Yeah?

I didn't play, guy.

I don't know if I'm going to stop anybody with these questions.

Which two teams did the Patriots beat twice in nineteen eighty five?

And what were the scores?

Oh?

I don't know.

They beat the Jets and the Dolphins twice.

That's right.

Yeah, no, I'm not sure the score.

Scor Paul, Yeah, the Jets and the Dolphins they beat twice.

Yeah, No, it's it's the Bills seventeen to fourteen and the Bill Okay, well, they get home, they cold thirty four fifteen at home, and the Colts thirty eight thirty one in Indy.

They lost in Miami and they lost an overtime to the Jets.

I just know them, but they beat them in the playoffs.

Well does he maybe you're just regular season?

Yeah, yeah, right, because they I think they split with both of those in the regular season.

Correct, Ye, yeah, that's what he's saying.

Yeah, they did them twice.

I meant the regular season.

Okay, yeah, the other two AFC teams.

You have to be specific, Convince Ferragama.

If the Bills, we'll catch you on the fourteen.

All right, two more questions.

The Patriots only went to overtime once in nineteen eighty five.

Who did they play and what was the score?

Jolt Jess, I lost sixteen thirteen?

Yeah, yeah, Jet, they had it.

I knew it was one of the teams.

He just said at le heat field goal, that was like a knuckleball, that just barely like kind of me.

I remember his shoelace was untied, and.

I don't remember that for that's just creepy, freaky.

Were you roomed for the Jets at that point, friend?

Probably eighty five.

I was.

I was living in Boston and I was rooting for the Patriots.

Did you go to the rally send them off?

No?

What's the last one?

Sean.

Nineteen eighty five nfl CO Defensive Player of the Year and Hall of Famer Andre Tippett led the AFC with sixteen and a half stacks, but also achieved greatness in which martial art?

Oh, it's it's a it's a form of judo.

Nope, taekwondo?

No?

Is it krobma goal?

I don't know what is it?

No?

He had that seventh degree black belt in karate karate.

I'm a karate man the inside.

Thank you, Mike.

Is this Ralph Machi.

I always love having Mike here because you always.

Get the Eddie Murph.

Thanks.

Thanks new episode Monday, Merry Christmas, Happy Hanaka.

Let's go to Nate in Connecticut with me.

Nate, can you guys to well?

Uh so, first off, I just want to merry Christmas everyone, Thanks to Nate and thank you.

And we have the Jets this upcoming Sunday.

And they say that this is a rivalry, and yes it is, but this rivalry has been like one sided forever and with the position that the Jets are in this year, it's just gonna be I think it's going to be a blowout win.

Thank Patriots.

We're gonna we're gonna take this stuff.

We're gonna hopefully get the divisions with a bill lost and changing topics.

Since it is Christmas, ease, I just want to know what are your favorite Christmas movies to watch?

Personally?

I'm a home Alone fan.

One and two.

The other home alones I hate the ones are probably the best.

I don't know what.

Yeah, okay, there's a handful, all right, I think there's three.

All right, thanks, you have a good one tomorrow.

I mean, Christmas Story is favorite of mine.

You've seen them all so many times that, like you know.

Diar Hard.

There's four home Christmas.

Movie, Christmas Vacation, Christmas Vacation on Christmas Vacation is pretty good.

That's a good Home Alone.

I think Nate's Nate's Home.

Is great too.

But Charlie Brown Christmas, well, I don't actually just the music too.

I always put Andy Hart hated all painters he could.

He didn't get it.

You didn't understand the attraction.

I was.

While Andy was.

A little ridiculous with it, I kind of agreed with him.

When I can't do it, I can't do like the real Christmas ones.

That's like you gotta it has to have.

Something sty one.

Yeah, like I.

Don't know, it's a wonderful wife, right, Like what about Elf?

That was?

I like Elf?

Elf?

And Christmas Vacation.

It's funny.

I do like Christmas Vacation though.

It's it's like an hour and thirty.

It's not like a carpet wet.

Yeah, the neighbors.

They extended cuts better because there's more of the neighbors than the extended cut.

You know what's kind of scary when you're watching now is that Rudolph claymation one.

It's like it's scary.

Yeah, I don't know, it's just it's it's kind of scary.

I don't know, it's something creepy.

The whole message is like I have no use for you until you can help me.

Right, it's true Christmas passage, that Christmas Christmas message, right, you know you get me.

They are saying, oh, it needs work.

It's like it's.

Really bad dentist.

It wants to be a dentist.

I did like the the Tim Allen Santa Claus movies too.

Those ones.

I saw the first one, the second one's back.

There is no like a handful of five or six of these movies that are just when we named them.

They're just awesome.

They're all rewatchable and fun.

And none of them are dying now.

So okay, let's go to de Seawan and Virginia.

What's up?

Godfather Great Christmas.

Potter is another one.

Yeah, So I just want to stalk about saying I was at this game Sunday night, and the biggest thing I can say is that I'm not very impressed by this defense resimilarly to the secondary, because when I watch these guys, it's like they don't challenge anybody.

I mean, like they don't have to get any interceptions, let alone even like that passes away and it's like I'm watchings, there always seem to be somebody open, you know, and teams are able to consistently drive the ball, uh you know, every single job when they get it.

And it's not like we're the best defensive team in the red zone.

So when teams get down there, they most definitely crack through to go get a touchdown, Like every time was how many get down there?

So when I'm looking at this team right now, I think that the biggest thing, and they called the pictures the foe, is this is this defense and you can't depend on a second year quarterback to pull you out.

He's sucking your quarterback.

I mean, like you can't expect him to go ahead and be the same the day.

I mean, I don't see it happened in the game.

Oh yeah, I mean I think everyone agrees with it.

To Shawn, if they lose, it's going to be because of the defense.

I think you just hope that they're going to get their guys back.

Thanks to you know, this defense has issues and we've talked about them all year long, but not having Milton Williams and Robert splane is is huge pieces.

And if they get all those.

Guys back and they can stop the run again, yeah, you know it's hard to stop the pass when it's third and four.

You know, there's a lot of things on the menu.

There's a lot of options for the offense.

You know, when you get teams off schedule and you get them behind the chains and you get them into third and longs, you know, that's when you can create turnovers and pressure.

In all that.

Season though before when they were stopping the run, weren't they rated low in pass defense?

Well, they were rated low in terms of like adjusting for schedule.

You know know what that means?

Way, Yeah, they're still rated low because that's hip and takes into account the off.

I'm just talking about, like were they good against the pass or not?

I don't yes or no?

Early what do you think?

I thought that they were ranked pretty low against.

No But what did you think that they were forget about the range?

Yeah, I thought that was the one little weekness.

I would agree with you.

Yeah, I would agree with you.

The numbers early on in the season were that, and then the schedule took hold, and now their past defense is rated much better because they played the Dylan Gabriels and the cam Wards and and those players.

So that's all you had to say.

Well that is what I said.

But I mean, like, just as a point of comparison, Drake May has had a pretty good year.

We all agree, Drake May, Yeah, pretty good, Key May.

I still don't know what that means, and if you would care to explain it to me that I'd be happy.

To take part.

I could be too completely wrong, but iff when they list the guy like if your nickname was Pep, this is Paul p P Parole.

This is Pro Football reference, not Ppah.

Yeah, and for Pro Football Reference and for Drake they had Drake Drake May May and as this as if Drake May was his nickname.

And now I don't know if it was a mistake.

This is not it, that's not it.

It happened.

This is yeah, because they put the nickname for all the players on their website exactly, but they didn't they do that as a reactive thing that they don't start the trend.

The trend is put on the website was.

A mistake and that started.

No.

No, I would give a little bit of credit to Drake May lover.

I think that that's probably where this all sort of started to originate.

But the whole gist of it is is that he's so good that he doesn't even need a nickname.

He's just Drake May, like.

We don't need.

I would say he was probably the one that started to popularize.

So the whole idea of the nickname is that is that he's so good we don't need to give him like some like you know, fugazi nickname.

He's just Drake May.

Okay, so he's Drake Drake May May.

I like that.

I'd like to have a nickname for Drake.

I would I don't know, you Drake, what it would be.

No, this is this is this is good.

It's good.

But just as a point of comparison, he's Drake, He's got twenty five touchdowns and eight picks, and the Patriots have allowed twenty four touchdowns and eight picks.

I would say that most everybody would say Drake May's having a really good year.

So those numbers would indicate the other team's quarterbacks are having a pretty good year.

You know.

Now that's just an average.

Obviously that's not one guy.

So you know, you may shut down, as Evan said, the Dylan Gabriels of the world, but I think when you faced some other guys you didn't fare quite as well.

Yeah, spiing Fresno, Who do you think is the best team in the league now?

And how much better are they than the Patriots?

And which is the better movie?

Bat Santa or Christmas Vacation Bad Santa?

Have you seen that?

That's a great movie?

A great movie, A movie.

I disagree.

I like Vacation, but that Santa is a very funny.

I agree.

I'd probably still say the Rams.

I know Seattle just beat them.

But I just I worry about Evans.

Guys, I would just.

Go on the quarterbacks, and I mean I think Seattle.

It's probably a corn flip between them, Seattle and the Rams right now, but.

Yeah, I think Seattle.

And it's funny because I think Seattle is the inside track to get the number one seed.

I think they'd the third best team in that division.

San Francisco has impressed me a little bit more this year than most because of the amount of injuries and turmoil they went through.

They did not look anything like what they look like right now in the middle of the season, and they just found a way to keep doing just enough to win games.

And now like it looks like Party's healthy, Kittle's healthy, you know, five touchdowns the other night.

The defense has got a whole bunch of guys that you don't really know.

They're starting to make plays.

I think San Francisco is one of those teams that no one's really talking about that I think could be a real threat.

It's like fun there's not a dominant team.

There's not one team that I would say I do like.

The team, as you guys all know.

Yeah know me too, me too, Spot.

But you know, if it's at the NFC championships in Seattle.

I think that might, you know, give Seattle a little bit of an edge Darnald play.

Yeah, I think either one of those teams could win in Seattle.

I don't think Seattle could win, you know, on the road.

Do you do have a concern that Darnold, just like last year, is going to turn back into a playoff Pumpkin And you don't have that same concern because Party has been to a Super Bowl and Stafford's won a Super Bowl.

So I get Paul's points, but yeah, Party has been probably the most efficient quarterback in the league.

When he's been healthy and been playing, He's been really good.

I would put Seattle on a list of teams that, like, you know, the most I mean the Patriots obviously, but the most surprising teams that you didn't really see coming, you know, I would say the Patriots.

Seattle would definitely be a couple of those.

But you know, by far, Bailey says, you guys aren't talking about the real reason players win MVPs.

I don't want to come off as snarky, but the reason josh one MVP over Lamar is seeding a top two seed has won it every year outside of one since at least twenty ten, maybe even further back.

It's been driving me crazy hearing you guys say Alan won it because he had less talent.

I think Allan deserved it either way, because he led his team to more victories by being more clutch.

So with all that being said, if we win a game versus the Dolphins or Jets and the Seahawks went out, Drake may is as good as a lock for MVP.

If we end up dropping to the three seed, I'll be a little more nervous with Lawrence's late season push, but I don't think he will drop.

Evan and Paul are my favorite on the pod, so I hope they respect my snarkiness and get mad about this, and don't get mad about this email.

I wouldn't get mad at I would just say I disagree.

Yeah, I would just say that.

You know, a lot of the people that vote for MVP explain publicly why they voted for MVP.

There were stories written about there's because last.

Year was a very very close and very contentious vote between Lamar and Josh Allen, and all the people that voted for Josh Allen is using the reasoning that Paul and I have brought up, which is that he had less around him than Lamar Jackson did.

Not this not that he had a better record.

Yeah, and I do appreciate the snark by the way.

I like the way he led into it, like let me tell you it was like the dirt diggler Mike, you know, let me tell you what you did wrong.

Let me show you what you did do wrong.

But I would just say, when you have an opinion, I wouldn't present it as fact, like let me tell you why, well your opinion that your opinion is, you know that one of the first two seeds.

If that was true, then why did Lamar win the first team all pro voted by the same people.

If Evan's not right about the differentiation being the MVP, they felt like the guy who did it with less.

I know a lot of Patriots fans are using this as a feather Drake May's cap, But I would say that this is a little bit of like correlation versus causation, Like obviously the guys that are gonna be nominated for MVPs are gonna be on the best teams, so like them being a one or two seed is just kind of a result of like they're having outstanding years and have their teams in now standing positions, So like, I don't know if that's necessarily like they are winning it because they were the number one seed or the number one seed because they're winning it.

In my opinion, if you're gonna talk about an MVP, like last year, Joe Burrow had an unbelievable season, but they went nine to eight and didn't make the playoffs, I can't go that far down to give an MVP.

But if you win fourteen games and this team wins thirteen games but gets the three seed, I'm sorry, I don't I'm gonna pick who I think had the better year, you know what I mean.

I mean, like you can make an argument Joe Burrow had a better year than anybody last year, or Jamar Chase, you know those kind of thing.

But but if you can't win enough games to at least make the playoffs, that's kind of like my.

Little MVP trivia.

There's been one m VP.

This is twenty ten.

That one without being a top two seed.

Who was it?

Hint it was a major storyline year for him.

Yeah, I have no idea because I don't remember Adrian Peterson.

I don't remember all.

The seeds, like I don't remember all the different seeds, you know.

Right back to the phones we go and it is Dan in New Jersey.

What's up Dan?

A happy holiday?

Sellas you're talking about movies kind of underrated, but I really like it.

I look forward to watching every year.

And that's Family Man with Nicholas Cage.

Oh yeah, I think I know that movie.

Yeah, twist on.

It's a wonderful life.

They's kind of a full of themselves kind of Wall Street, you know, hip Howard mergers and acquisition guy, and he gets the chance to live and see his life as if he were a tire salesman in New Jersey, which I relate to.

You sell tires.

I don't still tires, Mike.

What are you thinking of run flats?

Yeah?

They're available time.

Yeah.

But I just want to say I had the best Christmas present this year already.

I got a twelve and three.

Doesn't matter what.

I'm going to the game on Sunday, looking forward to it.

I'm undefeated at mett Les and my wife's become a big fan over the last few years.

So we're just looking forward to nice enjoying our Christs with a playoffs down team.

And I think you might be also with a lot of Patriots fans.

I'm sorry that that's the stadium you have to go to.

Thanks, Dan, appreciate the call.

Jean right Sinuh.

I'm disappointed that Paul does not know that the nineteen sixty four Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer reindeer movie, the clay mation movie.

Uh, is the.

Original just do your job motivational movie that inspired Bill Belichick.

I think he didn't that one really on a Friday or something.

Yeah, yeah, what's.

The what's the idea?

The like war?

General guy?

Yeah, yeah, it's war.

And well there's another.

One of your anonymous reports by Adam Shift.

I get to think that Adam and then all of a sudden he changed his tone.

Is that what I told him?

Oh?

Sorry?

Should I read a Night Before Christmas poem by Steve Sure that he writes in every year?

Is it Steve or Dan?

No?

This is from Steve, the original from Marblehead.

This is a new one then, because Dan Dan writes the Christmas pone the PF Steve.

I don't know, but I'll more than to see if Steve can not.

Okay, all right, let's go, because you know we gotta hurry.

Twas the night before Christmas in the AFC East, where the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins all feared a new beast.

The Jets had been confident, with a good reason.

Twelve years in a row we have won the offseason.

The Dolphins' concerns have never been fewer until the game started, and yeah, we got Tua.

The Bills were all snuggled in bed with good cheer until the billboard arows, we'll take it from here.

That's a good one.

The Pats had a goal, we will beat the bad teams.

The schedule complied with more than in our dreams.

We shut down the backs and receivers with glee.

Eldred is stubborn.

He still wants a d We rattled off ten wins in a row, then a loss.

We sure showed the league who's now the boss.

But Christian called in all weeping and crying.

Our teams are fraud.

They were a paper lion.

After each game.

Evan gives good ride up, but when coach called his name, he couldn't stand up.

In preseason games, film Paul's a film star, but forget the red Rider, Paul wants a new car.

Deuce knows the defense, but never the spread.

All of his entry songs got to his head.

No Tuesdays or Wednesdays, She'd only get bored.

Hey did Alex mention she won an award.

He's got big ideas, he's making big deals.

He's winning the picks because Freddy got feels.

The fans and the callers will want you to know.

All we want for Christmas is a fourth weekly show.

You know what I'm gonna do.

I'm gonna I'm going to forward this to Alex so that she can include it in the newsletter.

That was very well done.

And by the way, if you don't get the newsletter, you should.

You can do it by going to uh, what is it?

Patriots coms slash newsletter.

I don't even know what it is now, Google newsletter, Google it.

I don't know it just comes to my email.

Google it for the weekly roast of me.

Yeah, but good good job, Steven, very good good job.

And you know what he did he bolded where I should put the accent.

Actually really wanted me to make sure that I got it right.

Dar used to do this.

Shout out to Shane in the middle of everyone, and Shane hadn't worked there in like fifteen years.

I'd be like, shout out, Shane, stop Shane, like it would stop in the middle.

Good stuff.

Let's get back to the phones.

I don't know, should I?

Yeah, it's Christian Christ's Christmas?

What's that Christion question?

Well, because Christmas, guys.

Yeah, No, nothing to go, nothing to you guys about it isn't It's the time to say thank you, guys for a year of content.

Thank you guys for the time you guys spin away from your families so that you can put on a show so that we stand them.

Can all right, you're gonna make it listen.

Yeah, yeah, I'm a little uh, I got the Christmas cold like everybody else.

You have consumption, but we need you at one hundred percent for the playoffs.

Christian, rest up, I know you do.

Man.

Ups and down for everybody right in the year ups and downs to me, my company wait for me got chosen as best international startup of the year, and then past you know, uh so then that happens so well, and then that happens and so it's like up and down.

That's how the year goes.

And that's how this this sport goes.

And you guys guide us through from the fans that are just dejected every single loss to the fans that think every wind means that we have the dynasty back.

You guys guide us through and you and you're funny and you're nice and you're warm, and you connect us all and you make us all out here on the phone feel like we're in the booth.

We you guys agree together.

So happy to leave it to you guys.

Thank you guys, and for all you do, Beverly's do and Christian in La they go pack and we really really dig you guys.

Thank you all right, Thanks a Christmas.

Thanks for your loyalty.

Christian in La.

I'm surprised at how nice that was.

You need all these characters on this show, right'll bring something.

God bless everyone.

Reindeer had some real explosive plays and if we saw his own defense, we knew that it was going to give us the best ability to get the ball down the field.

Understood our opponents might have some difficulty with that.

That was Friday.

That was a Friday with Bill.

I said that that's all they came up when I googled Bill Belichick.

Rudolf the Redden's reindeer was the family guy, him him doing that for that?

Claire, Hello everyone, Illomer and Christmas is coming to Claire.

She just wants to send a warm Christmas us the pond.

Thanks for the great year.

Pat's win or lose.

You all make a Patriots fan being a Patriots fan awesome than you.

Is it clear?

Is it still Father Christmas?

Over there?

Not Santa?

Chris Kringle, Chris Kringle, Christmas st Nick?

Yeah, back to the phone.

Let's see you gotta follow up?

Christian Sam in North Carolina?

What's up?

Sam?

Sam?

Hey, how about the Drake maybe nickname?

I think I got the meaning for it because I hated it before I came up with my own meaning.

But the kid is so nice.

You got to see his name twice, and I came up with that.

I stay in love with the nickname myself.

Okay, he's so nice, you gotta say it twice.

Damn right?

Okay, gotcha, all right?

Thanks Sam?

Merry Christmas.

Bill's an Albuquerque, Hey.

Bill, Mexican, good afternoon.

Hey.

Yes, Hey, the one.

Movie you guys haven't mentioned, which is uh drastically underwatched is The Ref with Kevin Spacey, fellow Emerson graduate Judy Davis and pre rape.

Oh no, not Dennis Leary.

It's Leary.

Sorry, I got the names.

And it's called The Ref and it takes place at Christmas.

Kevin Spacey's a burglar and he takes Judy Davis and I'm sorry, I'm in the middle of I'm in the middle of doing something else at the same time, putting up luminar.

I don't know this movie.

I've heard of it, but I don't think i've seen it.

God, dang funny.

Kevin Spacey and Judy Davis fight all the time, and uh, Dennis Leary's taking them hostage at Christmas because he can't get out of the town.

And I swear to God.

You guys love.

It takes place in Connecticut, so it's New England, d and internet.

My wife is from connect I know, I know, Connects kind of.

Divided.

But you know, it's Christmas.

It's Christmas, Christmas.

That's good, that's good.

I don't think i've seen it.

I don't think.

I don't familiar with it.

I definitely don't know the movie Deuce.

Can you know you can?

It's criminally underwater.

Okay, the rest I have to look.

It's probably hard to find because.

Didn't he get let off of all those tracks?

His career kind of ended.

His career ended, But I thought he got off.

Did you ever see him around trying?

Can you know?

As only you can't?

And I'm sure you can explain.

Judy Davis, I don't know that one.

I don't know what you're talking about, Judy Dent, hold on, it's a different.

Pain, Judy Dent.

Yeah, I know who that is.

Yeah, yeah, Judy Davis David.

Sure I know who that is.

Yeah, she's been around.

I'm sure she's fame.

I mean, yeah, she's seventy.

I'm like the Dressmaker Mystery Husbands.

And I haven't seen any of these Barton.

I think if dust Barton, if Deuce didn't know who she was the route without looking up IMDb, then I feel better.

No, not a lot of these movies I've seen.

I'm not surprised that Absolute Power.

I did see, though, Clint Eastwood, I think that was a president assassination movie.

I saw that was one of the Cohen brother movies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now I haven't seen any of these movies that she's been in so you.

Know, sorry the ref I've never not familiar with it.

Aaron and Port Jarvis, New York.

He says, this is the game I'm calling it now.

Efton Ladarius Chisholm, the third, three hundred and fifty receiving yards, nine touchdowns.

We've been saving them all year for this moment.

He might play.

He could play.

It was the new guy.

No, sorry, the new guy.

Yeah.

Well, they signed Michel to the practice squad, who has uh played a little running back in the league.

I don't think that's a great sign for Traveon Henderson's availability.

And then they opped Brendan Himus as well, so I don't know if that's great.

Jared Wilson too.

But with booty and booty and protocol and Douglas did not play much with the hamstring issue, you you could get this is what you.

Need, like he gets in the season.

It's wins and MACS.

Elements.

This is a preseason game.

This is very shine.

That's so true.

The other team is not going to play for.

Yeah, that's true.

It's basically no.

Ability and don't forget that, no ability to play for.

Let's just say he did play and he had a great game, good for him?

Would they carry would you consider no taking time away from Pop Douglas?

No?

Okay, but more importantly, they wouldn't either.

I mean, like, if you had like ten catches for one hundred and fifty yards and was just like unbelievable.

That's what I don't I don't think he would take anyone's job if they were healthy, even if he did that in this in this particular game.

Okay, Now, if he had done that, say six weeks ago, and then you know you're looking at like maybe we could give this guy another look or whatever, I just don't think in this game, okay, it would be considered.

Look you what you're thinking?

You know what I mean.

Franklin and Baltimore and the event Papa Myers is listening.

I just want to say that I'm happy for Jacoby.

We've got his extension with the Jaguars.

Still miss him being on the team.

We do too.

I'll also extend the Merry Christmas to the PU crew and hope that Santa left Paul a car size shape gift near his house so we can stop cheating on us.

PU faithful.

I don't think it's going to happen a little Carvana delivery.

It's going to happen.

No, don't put that.

No lessis bow and no bow no.

Boo.

Yeah, that's think.

That's a lot of work to be able to buy a car, keep it secret, have it there on Christmas.

That sounds like it's unrealistic.

Yeah, I just I just got a good Saturday and linfe sketch.

I hadn't seen it from a few years ago, but they set that up that like the husband buys the wife of car and then she freaks out.

Because like, we can't afford this.

He has no idea.

No, I did, like two thousand dollars down.

She's like, yeah, down, we have a monthly basic what.

Yeah, it's good.

It's a good one.

Joe writes in in Michigan.

I think the Patriots will have a very tough game versus the page the Jets Patriots twenty four just twenty one.

Defense is real concern for the Patriots.

Had Ravens rode the running game with their lead.

I don't think the Patriots win oc for Ravens or HC must have the peak Carrol syndrome.

I agree about the Baltimore game, but there's no comparison in talent.

I don't think the Jets are capable of doing that.

No.

Yeah, even like their run game has some like infrastructure things that are nice with like Breese Hall and their offensive line, and their numbers are still terrible.

Like you know, you look at it on paper and you're like, oh, they could probably run the ball a little bit.

They're like twenty fourth in the EPA.

Like it's like it's like the best part of their team, you know it, but it's still.

Not a solid player.

But did he even play?

He?

Like, am I miss?

Is my timeline off?

Like did he even play last week?

Yeah?

He did?

He came back, Okay, so maybe he plays.

I don't know, maybe he breaks a long run.

He's not really over.

The sixteen carries for fifty.

Four, okay, so he's healthy enough.

That's the one thing is he you know, there are some they do have some explosive runs on tape.

You know, they think he's eleventh and explosive runs this year Breese Hall.

So it's not like great, but the numbers say that.

That's the one area of their team that's not bottom of the league.

Is their run game.

Have a modicum of focus.

Like I'll give you the Thursday night game.

Let's go to the Thursday night game.

Don't allow ad Mitchell to run by you, Christian Gonzales, because maybe he'll catch it this time.

Yeah right, you know that's the only way they're going to score is those kinds of plays if you have a lapse in concentration.

You know.

I mentioned I saw something this week that your boy Shats had.

The Jets special teams EA is like historical.

Yeah, one of the it's like the third best special team season of all times they've had.

They have a really good returner who I'm baking on his name right now, but will Yeah, but they they've had some good returns.

They had one game earlier this year.

One of their three wins where I think they had two is right before they played the Patriots in Week eleven.

Yeah, I think it's Isaiah Williams.

I'm not sure he's the good punt returner with two punt return for touchdowns.

And then I don't know how to pronounce the name is is it Woghu has a kickoff return?

Yeah, So I think that that was the one of their three wins.

I think it was the week right before they played the Patriots on a week eleven, they had a I think it's a punt and a kickoff return touchdown in the same leave and that's how they won the game.

So that's it.

That's the formula.

That's what I'm saying.

The the head coach.

Have some focus and you should be able to keep that.

You know that team at back.

Audrey and New Hampshire says, oh yeah, gosh, miss Molly.

Shoot, we absolutely must change the pix order next year.

Mike can't be this bad at picks and now he's just accepting it as truth.

Let's have mister Sharp, Pauly p Goo first.

Okay, then try to keep that in mind.

Then Evan Alex, Mike and King Freddy last, because he's the boss that still goes around the deck seating.

Give Deuce a chance to hear a bit more about the matchups.

If after this change he's still lasting the picks and sneaky negative, then fine, shake.

It up, fred a new year of big week for Mike.

He did not finish under five hundred with a spread.

Yeah, well, I appreciate the support.

Audrey.

You're right, I have kind of accepted at this point.

But you know, we'll get to this in about twenty minutes, Fred, but the wiley veteran asserted his dominance.

No, oh, oh curse, you know the last couple of weeks.

Yeah right, he heard it.

No, he heard the footsteps takes up the pace.

And he responded, according, right.

Oh okay, like it like that.

I can't wait to hear I figured because Alex asked me, would the other are you know Alex Francisco be here today?

Though, depends on how she did in the pick.

If she did well, she'll be She.

Had she had a drum up a Romandree interview real quick.

She said she had a really good human interest story that she's working on.

And I said, well, I'm neither human nor interested.

Peace.

So I'll see uh.

El from Wisconsin.

Uh.

Last week was tough, he says.

The loss against Buffalo caused everyone all week to talk about Drake coming back and playing in the cold.

Please no more.

I can't take any more of that mind numbingly stupid talk.

Okay, you know the whole thing about you know, he needs to come prove that he can play in the needs to prove that he can come back.

So you don't think that they did anything.

Sunday against Baltimore.

That doesn't do it that.

He was already convinced he didn't need that.

Well, but that, but you didn't like to see it.

He I mean, it doesn't matter if you.

It wasn't about the game, he thought.

I just thought it was cold Sunday night in Baltimore from behind.

I think that was kind of interesting.

I think so too, And I think he did right.

So I thought it was interesting the week before too, when it was cold and they were losing and they didn't come from behind.

It that's the day.

He's just talking about the talk.

I find I find the actual analysis of the games to be interesting.

So we do Wow, that's what we do.

That's we do.

I don't just pick and choose the analysis of the games that I liked the way they finished el Wisconsin.

You've been scolded, no, I just like your pants have been pulled down and you've been space.

It's not a mind nothing stupid, audience.

It's not a mind numbingly stupid argument to say that he had a great comeback against Baltimore.

That's not mind numbingly stupid.

Sorry, if you want to counter, the floor is yours.

You didn't hear what I said.

What the comeback against Baltimore and you know, on the road in the cold was not mind numbingly stupid to talk about and be excited about.

Right, But I'll bet you he doesn't think it is either.

Would you point?

Would you?

Would you say it?

The only the only that was done was because they lost?

Hold on?

Would you?

Did you say it's dumb to say after the Baltimore game he's going to do this every time?

Now?

Yes, yeah, that's dumb.

Yeah, and the people aren't doing that.

And he thought the other side of the argument was dumb.

He can't do it, yeah, because he hasn't done it.

No, but Patriots fans will say that that, see, he can do it.

It's over.

We got a lot of that in the postgame show.

Right, and he would I would imagine L might think.

Oh no, no, I'm going to say that L thinks that's great.

He's silenced everything.

All right, Well, all right, well maybe i'll.

Because the only thing that was stupid about the argument was.

That they lost.

Okay, I'll let it call it for.

What it was.

A great email.

I'm not picking on that this you are, No, I'm not, because this is what this is.

I think a typical response right now from Patriots fans, why are they talking about?

And Fred dealt with this during the game, people would jumping the ship, right people.

People were really upset about it.

So was it really that dumb?

Like there were a lot of people that were talking about in analyzing things, and then they came and they made a comeback and Drake silenced the critics.

I think that's relevant, Okay, I do now, at least for a week, he silenced the critics.

I don't know, Like like Felger always says, you know, one of the few things that he says that I actually find interest.

I don't know what's going to happen in the future.

I don't know what's like.

I can't see the future like everybody else, Like Patriots fans know exactly what's going to happen.

I can't.

I don't know what's going to happen.

Otherwise I would stop working here and I would bet all the games and that would be my job.

But I don't know what's going to happen.

Do you, yes?

I do.

I have a feel for the lending.

Okay, so can you tell me, yes, what's going to happen?

What do you want to know.

I want to know if the Patriots are going to win the Super Bowl.

Probably not, okay, I'll look unclear, Probably not, it's not that's I'm not that doesn't really read it me now rereading.

Yeah, that's what I'm looking for morel Thank you.

Uh Fred ask Evan.

If the A gap is next to the B gap, also, if the B gap is next to the C gap.

One more thing.

Is the C gap minus the B gap equal A gap.

Thanks for your anticipated cooperation.

A gap squared plus the B gap square.

If A equal C and B equals A, does A equal.

C Pythagorean theorem?

Yeah?

Transitive, yeah, one technique er I was.

I was no surprise.

I was really bad at that logic course in college.

Oh really yeah, I was pretty good at logic.

I was okay like the first few weeks and then I just lost interest.

Had you and I logic?

Yeah?

Is that like two trains leave for going these speeds?

A question?

Yeah?

There was more in depth, like than like it started with the transitive stuff, which okay, I get that, but then it really complicated and I was like I'm out there.

Yeah yeah, not for me.

Not exactly a mathematical genius, which is why thirteen accord with English.

Guy, you must have done good in English, like English SATs that stuff.

Ish is you know, I actually get better in math on my SATs than I did English.

Yeah, me too, well, most most people do.

Really Yeah, because I'm not in class.

I didn't.

I did better in English, but because I'm that bad at math, but most people do better at math, I think.

Yeah, no, but classes checking my grades in math were not as good as otherwise.

I don't know.

I mean, you know, with my son who's taken like all these advanced classes, like some of the kids get like like I would get to the end of those tests and I'm like, I haven't taken this yet, but like he has been in advanced class, so he's taken it, so he knows what he's doing, you know.

So sometimes I feel like you're set up to fail with some of that stuff.

Anyway, But like the analogies and all that stuff.

I barely made geometry.

Oh, I was great at geometry.

See that was the only one.

Like the algebra stuff I couldn't do Trigg Calculus, I really struggled.

But geometry was the only one that I was reasonably And you know what.

I blame it because I think I have an aptitude for I had bad teachers.

Yeah, math, I.

Think your teachers make all the difference in the world in math, it really does.

I blame it on the teacher.

I do love it.

I do I love it.

I think there's some teachers that they can explain it, like Bill Belichick, like he can break it down for you and so you can understand it.

And I think a lot of teachers when it comes to math, can't do that.

I agree one hundred percent.

And geometry was a prime example for me of that.

And I really liked the teacher.

His name was mister Ron Poscis.

If he's still out there.

I emailed him at some point as an adult to thank him.

But loved the.

Guy and just super funny, made it fun.

And I had like a bad first test grade and I was so disappointed and letting him down that it was like a switch went off and I just started flashcards and.

He will wear this geometry.

But he was funny teacher.

Some of his favorite junior year, some of his he didn't, but he had great ones like look it up in your funking wagonoles Like he'd yell that at you if you didn't know somebody to flip it over and do it on your backside, you know, Like he.

Just was funny.

He got high school humor.

And it was also one of the classes where I remember he was making a joke and everyone in the class.

Was laughing and I farted.

And like the whole class everybody heard it, but everybody just kept laughing anyway, Like I wasn't even that embarrassed because everybody was already laughing anyway.

But he was a great teacher, and I always think of that teacher and didn't.

Do anything specific besides humor that they made you understand.

Well, I don't know that's a good Like we used to do a thing called pick a quiz where you literally, like in geometry, you know you have to know like all the different proofs and stuff, and you know, what is this rule And he'd go around you'd have to pick one out of the hat and like the pressure beyond.

So I don't know if I mean, he definitely just made me want to work harder for him, So I don't know if it's I mean, I remember.

When I went on deductive Proof, I just got I love I loved.

Him when I finally figured out algebra, like like it was a light bulb that went off and it became really easy.

But it had nothing to do with what the teacher was teaching.

You how every kid in my class felt and I was the one that just didn't get it.

Yeah, And when we got to algebra two, it was like why am I bother what?

I couldn't do it in Aldred And you know I.

Took in the eighth grade.

Do you take college Matt, Like, I got to college math and I'm like, this is not for me.

So I had I had to take two maths sciences and those you know, I didn't really love either one.

Because I was a journal as a major, I didn't have to do a lot of that.

I took a stats class thinking, you know, you know me that I'm a geek, I can do.

I got about.

Halfway through the semester I was I was rocking it, okay, And then the last half of the semester I was like this.

I was like trying to run the clock out, like I was handing the ball off, you know, we got to keep the clock running here.

And I just made it with like a B minus or something.

Speaking to Dennis Larry.

He was one of my professors at Emerson.

No really, he taught it was comedy right else, Oh yeah, that's punk class.

I actually in grad school.

The only is in grad school is grad school.

But it was the only B plus I got was in comedy writing, which was like the thing.

Everything else a's because it's easy.

So what do they what do they teach you?

Like, typically comedy writing?

Yeah, concept, So they would usually present you with like a topic or you know, some type of thing and then you'd have everyone would have to write off of that.

Yeah, we did some of that.

I mean mine was in you know, in television production, so we had to write a sitcom script.

So I was learning about you know, comic beats and all that kind of stuff.

The rule of three is a big one in comedy, like those kind of things.

But I wrote a just shoot me specs script episode.

So what's the rule of three?

Like they're like always repeating it's set up, set.

Up big, yeah, like you know or you know, when you do callbacks too, we talk about just comedic devices.

Like I don't remember all of it, but but it still pops up sometimes and you you know, like three everything is three.

It's a good thing.

You don't get the Santa from the Rootolph, you'd like write out a whole script and you'd say then be like needs work, not funny.

Right, Where's where's rabel mat any any word from him?

His hands are up either.

I will say last night we were think they ran a little late.

Last night.

We were supposed to interview I was, I think we'll run it at halftime here I interviewed Vidarian Low.

But they were good forty five minutes an hour behind when they thought they were.

So maybe things are little taking a little extra time.

Make sure you hammer the jetsys.

Uh chatted Atlanta Rights and so.

Marlon Humphreyes just said on a podcast regarding the uncalled PI against Booty quote, I honestly feel like I did tackle the bro.

I'm pretty sure that should have been a PI, but they didn't call it.

So I will take it where we take it.

That being said, when Paul mentions investigations into refereeing, what would that consist of, I'm curious.

I'm not familiar with the league's method on that.

There would never be an.

Investigation, Yeah, not unless they Okay, here's.

Mike, I'm not doing this tomorrow.

You're right, we're not, but thank you.

Yesterday we tapped Garrett good Guy Award winner.

I've he been a good guy for.

You Yeah, yeah, great.

You know, I mean a lot of additions in the offseason and Garrett was one of them.

And he's he's been out there in the middle of our offense and helps coordinate everything that we do with the line of scrimmage.

You know, he's brought a lot of experience, brought a lot of knowledge and you know, so again it has really helped us and you know, we got hopefully a lot of football left the play and you know, it's a great honor for him, you know, to be able to represent our football team to you guys and in a positive way.

So the disappointed I didn't win that in my eight years here, Mike, how.

What is this week for the for you as as a football team, but also on and off the field with the players and their families.

And what they come over to.

It's just always a balance of you know that we wage in these these holidays with Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, trying to have a balance of getting the work done that we need, trying to focus on what's important here at work and practice in and then and when that wraps up and we're done and being able to compartmentalize and go and be with family and the people that come in and that have helped our players, our coaches, and our staff get to where they are.

None of us did this on our own.

There's a lot of people that have helped us get here as made sacrifices, and so anytime that we can have to spend with them on important days, I'm all for it.

But then the most importantly is what we do on the field, Like you said on Sunday, there's a lot.

Of cricks in there and make an impact as a way, the.

Whole lot of experience one, I mean Craig.

Craig was in college for a while.

We joke about it, but you know, he's that's he's started and played a lot of games, seen a lot of football.

But I think he's continued to learn and none of stand and develop and it's gotten better each day and he's been durable and available.

And you know, the more that you're out there, the usually the better that you get.

What made him the game captain, Like, what was the thought process before we had felt that he wasn't.

No, he was.

You've been tracking.

He's pretty close to Mike and you've been on him.

You know, it was our first you know, we had gone through most everybody and you know there's other options, I think, obviously, but just trying to I thought it was the right time with Craig and you know the amount of snaps that he's played for us and what he's done, and you just trying to continue to build the young players on this roster, whether that's on the field and or developmental or a leadership role or whatever.

That may be.

I guess that was just the idea.

Robert was out last week.

Do you expect him to practice at all the sweet information.

I don't unless we get a Christmas miracle, Tony tim starts walking or something.

Christian Gazalis mentioned that very early on you talked about winning the division.

Why was it important to express that, you know, to the group, put that out there early in your tenure.

I think when just to make sure that everybody understood what the expectations were.

That there's a lot of ways to win football games in this league, and with a lot of different players and a lot of different lineups and a lot of different schemes and however we need to do to win football games.

But that was going to be the goal.

And making sure that they all understood that, making sure that they they knew that this was the priority.

And that's what we've tried to do.

Now we haven't done it, you know, we still have opportunities to do it, but just making sure.

But I understood what the expectations were.

Artist is ready to take the bigger whifload.

Yeah, I mean again, we'll take him off the field and then somebody else will.

You know, well, this guy's not getting at it, you know.

I mean, we we only got one football so we'll try to you know, but he is prepared.

It was unfortunate his first week that he busted his tail to get in there on that Thursday night game and we handed to him huge run, questionable holding call, and you know, he had some other plays in that first game.

And I actually joked with him yesterday, I said, hopefully, I mean, you know, if you get in there, we rip a couple of runs off there, you make a couple of plays that they don't get called back.

And you know, he was laughing, but he's done nothing but come in and be a professional and learn and be ready to go, and I know that when his opportunity comes, he'll take advantage of it.

Coach, talk about their Mumford and the job he's done in your six on line packages coming in.

You've been doing a lot more of that this season with that twenty two rhinal stuff.

Just talk about him and what he's brought to the team.

Hear that, Sophie about scared me up there?

Yet?

Do you hear that?

Get you to get that tenor.

There you go?

There you go, don't do that.

I saw a different there, I think than the one that left here, and again.

I havn't spent time in another team.

Came here and I think it.

Was okay, and then getting claimed by Cleveland coming back, I think we all, including Fayer, saw a different version of him, one that was much more prepared, ready to go physically and has done that role before.

It's helped us hopefully, and you know, go weather and play tackle or post spots.

On the offensive line.

So I think we've just seen a different version if they are, and I think he's trying to take advantage of his opportunities.

What stands out to you from the Jets play style and where they'll.

Challenge you well up front.

I really enjoy watching their offensive line.

I think it's a it's a good group.

It's a very young and talented group.

On the outside, it's a I love the play demeanor of the guys inside with Myers and tipped in and uh Simpson and they they they come off the ball.

They they're good in their combinations.

So they really allow you know, most their runners but mostly Briest to you know, get going.

There's not a whole lot of first contact and he's able to.

You know, the average is over four point two yards of carry.

So I think that, you know, I like that group.

Just you know, they moved this last time they ran a football against us.

The recipe for winning is not going to be to run for sixty five yards and give up one hundred and forty yards on the ground.

I've told the team that multiple times.

So Athletic defense young, playing some young guys obviously with McDonald and and him continuing to get better and his length and Jermaine Johnson and you know Briggs and then obviously Phillips is the studying case.

And their linebackers are fast.

They run their fourth tackle for lost percentage.

So if you don't come off on them, or you know, you don't, you don't get somebody up to him, they're going to make the tackle and they're gonna gonna be there in a hurry.

So you know, we'll have to we'll have to do a great job of trying to get somebody on those linebackers.

I know he's had a or he had else starting to the regular season.

Both people from impressed you the most about being the way he's kind of settled the job.

I just, you know, he's done a nice job.

He's you know, in accurate.

I think that he's kept a good demeanor.

I think he's practiced well as far as just mentally and then talking about the weather and you know, finding you know, whatever that is.

You know, Tom's coach kickers and all different climates, but I haven't and I said, so whatever the plan is to prepare to kick in the weather and all these different things.

That he's trying to do or has done.

And you know, I just think he's got a pretty steadying demeanor and has work to improve and the consistency, you know, with his approach and all those other things.

Micha Romano was saying that he maybe enjoyed a blitz pick up in the series before the final series more than the twenty one yard touchdown run.

Hows that made you feel as a coach when you hear the running backs talking like that.

Well, they have a critical job.

And I you know, anybody, not anybody, but most players in the league, if you hand it off and there's a hole, they're going to score.

But very few can one handle the mental challenge of what the protection is and and what the scan is.

And you know, I've got will to week safety or I've got you know, whoever you have, and being able to some of these presentations that the defenses present.

You know, you may be up in the line of scrimmage and have to get back out and be able to block somebody and then physically being able to do it and stand up to them and block them and stop their charge and not drop your head and all these different things.

And so I think that that is a something that he does very well.

And again, when your best players the quarterback, it's important that you protect them.

So I appreciate that, but I don't that doesn't surprise me.

Their kickoff, Come on, you just got right you, come on, what do you see from their kickoff?

Come onicle?

A couple of.

A couple of coaches and quarterbacks have weighed in on the merits of pure progression passing against coverage.

Reads sort of where do you.

The guy that's open in the progression and where that progression takes you?

The first one that you see that usually leads to positive yards.

It limits negative plays.

Obviously, there's times.

Where we're gonna have to hold the ball, move guys down the field and progress.

So I try to keep it as simple as possible, because I think that holding the ball in this league just leads to turnovers, to sacks, to longer yardage, and the more that the quarterback gets hit, the more negative things have a chance to happen.

Turnovers, you know, all the other obvious things.

Sorry, God, did kickoff for turns for the Jets?

They get leave the league.

Get kickoff?

Return to average is what are you seeing from them on.

That great scheme?

Excellent players, very good returners.

We'll have to cover with a purpose this week.

And you know obvious the you know one running a running back that really runs through arm tackles and has a good job.

He's done a great job of doing that.

Mitchell obviously he's great putt returner, but those skills have translated over to the kickoff returns.

So as much as they kick away from you know, the nay that they now Mitchell's getting a lot of those or Williams is getting.

A lot of those.

So we'll have to make sure that we're good that the space is limited and again one guy is probably not going to be able to do it.

And get them down.

And that's been Special teams has been a very very strong point for these guys.

Fake to punt, you know, the kickof the putt returns has been a weapon.

And you know fourteen yard average, you know, two touchdowns, one called back.

So this is these are making sure that we're matching everything that they do from a special team standpoint critical phase.

But thank you guys and Mary Kraus stress, I appreciate everything you guys do.

Keep it.

Tell you guys, watch what happened all right?

Yes?

Uh, your performance, you know the performance like sexual excuse me, Willy are you saying or something?

Roll in my gear?

So what you're saying to me, I'm sorry you're gear, Willie my stick.

He's not going to say the stick in front of the children.

Does he hey our friend that we were just talking about before we went I'm there.

Marcopello already posted on Instagram.

Get the tree down, that's over, Take the lights off.

Turn I'm gravy and I'm graeve about you whatever you want you.

I want to thank you all for doing shows Tuesday and today.

Most podcasts are putting out nothing, what or best of shows.

The radio was putting their c team out there no offense.

Paul as someone who has.

To tomorrow, I want to look it was fighting the eye.

I don't want to tell him what a sheep lying no good Robbie for blushing mollife, snake licking, dirt eating and bread over stuff, ignorant but fucking dom kissing, brainless, homeless, heartless, fatass, bug eyed Steple like it's funny, wormhaded sack of monkey.

He is a know yah, I'm just tuned in live for the.

First time ever.

Oh whoa excellent.

A lot of people at home Christmas welcome boy manage you know, sitting by the yule tide and uh listening to pursue.

Sitting by the yule log, Sitting by the yule tide, some people are by the ocean.

Oh okay, not the river, though, no river wouldn't have a Yule tide.

Correct to everyone out there listening, have a merry Christmas.

That's what you celebrate.

Merry Christmas.

Ho ho ho.

All right Backhan and Patriots Unfiltered eight five five pass five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com.

Is the email address is Alex coming.

I don't think is.

But it's a time here.

What time is it that we can do the co Pilot Question of the Week real quick before do that?

Yeah?

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All right, guys, this week we're talking about Pro Bowl.

Drake May made the Pro Bowl.

Christian Zaliz made the Pro Bowl.

He stomped me.

Who stops me?

Who are the top three Patriots of all time that have gone to the.

Most Pro Bowls?

Tom Brady, Tom Brady?

How many?

This is just with the Patriots too.

I have to clarify if anyone's going to check my math on this seventeen fourteen, fourteen times number two.

Anybody any guesses on two and three, I'd say John John Hannah is third with nine Pro Bowls.

Okay, it's one more, Pippot, we were.

Just talking tip it actually five five down.

He's tied with Richard Seymour, Nope, Wes Welker, Gronk, Will fork uh Gostowski all five at four one more guy, you're thinking off the beaten path.

Mike Rabel was just.

Talking special teams.

Oh Slater, Slater, Oh yeah.

Ten Pro Bowls.

So oh shore, there you have it.

So Mike, Mike clearly has been angry that I've been getting the answers, so he decided to go.

He decided to find something that one of the very few things that I have no interest in, my special team, no Pro Bowls, I could care less.

And there you go.

Congratulations.

So yeah, there you have it.

All right, Well, we're waiting for Alex.

Alex coming out of this, like several times during the show that she's working on something with Ramandre Stevenson and she was not taking over all the time.

Well, she's dedicated, and she she writes, really.

Well, okay, all right, all right, well we'll get it.

It's that time of the week, the week, the week.

And cue.

All right, Paul, how do we do?

So?

As I eluded, Fred and Evan twelve and four, Alex and Paul eleven and five, Mike eight and eight.

However, with the spread, Fred joins Alex at eleven four and one in second place, time in the second place, third place behind Evan at twelve three and one.

Wow, Evan twelve three and one with the spread bread Evan really making a charge, but he's he's well in the rears.

Yeah you know.

Mike nine six and one, good job.

Respect you.

And feeling the pressure of trying to catch the uncatchable Freddie feels Paul eight seven and one.

So dropping three games at this time, this is not the time of year to be dropping three games.

In a week.

It was cold in the last week.

You couldn't you didn't perform in the cold.

I think that's an excellent point.

Did you notice how cold I was during the post games?

You remember how cold we were?

I was cold.

You need to get the Scooba suit.

It was so much like germ infestation going on.

I think we talked the bullet though, because I still feel great.

Yeah, I think my tickle is kind of gone, so I don't know.

We'll see anyway.

The overall standings, Fred and Alex remain well, no, they are tied now because Fred pick picked up a game one fifty six eighty three and one, so that tied in first place.

Paul is in third at one forty nine ninety and one, Mike one forty five ninety four and one, and Evan won forty four to ninety five in one.

Oh god, I can't go double.

I can't go double.

Last place with the spread.

Freddie feels one twenty nine, one oh eight and three.

There was another push this week, uh, Paul one twenty two, one fifteen in three.

Evans strong week puts him over the five hundred market at one nineteen one eighteen and three, Alex one sixteen one twenty one and three, and deuce one oh one.

Good congratulations vendor for breaking one hundred, one thirty six and three.

So there you go.

All right, Well, we got to two weeks to go in the regular season.

I can't I can't be in last place in both I got a hold of it, an ar.

Okay, Well, you're gonna have to be creative with your picks then this week.

So yeah, next year, I'll go first and we'll see if that makes any difference.

All right, just saying I never complained about having to go first.

It was the that's true, you know.

But yeah, you've resigned yourself to.

Being I've also resigned myself.

Right.

All right, Well we start off with Christmas at one o'clock on Netflix.

Remember that though this is on Netflix.

Uh, it's Dallas six eight and one at Washington four and eleven, Dallas by seven.

That's by seven.

Huh.

All right, I'm gonna take Dallas to win.

I'm gonna take the points.

Uh short week, Christmas, YadA, YadA, YadA.

Dallas still got a chance.

No, So they're out of the playoffs.

I believe they were eliminated, right, Okay, I didn't know.

That's another one.

Don't check it.

Yeah, just go ahead it.

Well, I mean that plays into a lot of these picks.

I believe that they were eliminated.

Are they six eight and one?

They are eliminated?

Yeah, so we're gonna need that, Matt.

So, I don't know where you got that info from but keep that website up so we can figure this out.

All right, So Alex is not here, so I will actually echo Deuce's pick.

I will take Dallas to win, but I'll take the points.

And I think there's a chance that Washington wins this game outright, But I'm not quite ready to go there.

Yeah, I'm there as well.

I'll take Dallas to win, but I'll take the points.

It's Christmas.

Washington doesn't want to No one wants to be there, you know, nobody wants to be there.

But they also don't want to play poorly in front of their fans.

No one wants to be there for any of these games.

To be honest with you, I don't think anybody League wants to play on Christmas.

I thought.

I think it's funny.

People were like, you know, years ago, they shouldn't make the teams playing Christmas this year it's the games aren't good enough on Christmas.

Well, I think it's ridiculous that they're not only playing on Christmas, they're adding games on Christmas.

Thursday, four thirty on Netflix, it's Detroit eight and seven at Minnesota seven and.

Eight, Detroit by seven and a half.

Mike no, I know it's unfair when Mike makes picks without knowing.

No, jj M nine.

And what are the implications.

For this game any well, Detroit has to win there in dire straits.

And Minnesota's out.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

In the regard, I'll take Detroit and I'm gonna lay the points.

Yeah, I'm gonna do the same thing.

I saw that Max Brosemer guy play that game in Seattle and it may have been the worst quarterback performance I've watched.

So I'm going to take Detroit both ways.

Yeah, me too, Detroit both ways, all right.

The third of the triple header, Christmas Night, eight fifteen on Prime.

Yeah, this is a different stream.

Yeah, this is on Prime, not Netflix.

The twelve and three Broncos are at the six and nine Chiefs.

We're looking for a little Christmas miracle here.

You'll need America quarterback denver By thirteen and a half.

No Gardner, minshew, it'll be the guy from South Dakota State there.

I couldn't do I couldn't do it.

Olu Kanla thirteen and a half, Ola denver By thirteen that Kansas City.

Yeah, well they allowed it because this is such a hostmatch.

And because Mahomes is out.

Yeah, that was that the line is right, Denver was playing on the road because out it was originally scheduled to be in Dens.

Right.

You guys see the deal that Kansas City got from Kansas to move.

I mean, guys, over a billion dollars, like everything.

Can I ask a dumb question out?

You know?

Are we in a safe space?

It depends on what you're why not get mocked and ridiculed for this.

The Kansas City, Missouri, right and the Kansas City, Kansas.

Is it the same actual city but it just is on the overlaps both states?

Or is it two separate cities?

I always thought it was too separate, but separate cities.

I always thought it was two separate cities.

And I'm I'm you know, I'm asking.

For basically, they could just shift stadium over.

So it's not a dumb question, is what you're saying.

I don't think a lot of people didn't even know.

No, I knew there was a difference between Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas.

But I always thought they were two separate.

And I thought so too.

I mean, it is, but now I'm being.

Told that it's the same.

It just happens to ye be cut by the state border.

This feels like we're really stupid right now, I think it is.

I think it is right on the It is right.

According to the Google it says two separate bordering cities and different Yeah.

They are bordered, separate bordering cities in different states.

So they border.

Yeah, they too, at least a quarters.

But they're separate.

Well, they have to be separate because of the government, right, like they can't.

One is in the.

State, but they but they are actually like if there was no state, they will be one state.

It be one city.

Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I thought it was two separate Yeah.

Like different locations like miles apart.

Yeah.

So anyway, Denver's favored by thirteen and a half.

Thirteen and a half, definitely say Denver to win.

That's just a big number on a Christmas game.

And shoot, I'll lay it.

I'll lay the thirteen.

Yeah, I am going to as well.

Kansas City proud team.

A lot of wins that have nothing to play for, probably not real happy to be playing in this game.

The fans aren't gonna be happy.

Yeah, I'm going to take Denver to win both ways.

I'm going to take the points, and the reason being that in the event that there is a Christmas miracle, at least I can win that part of sure the selection.

So I'm basically hedging it.

Yeah, all right, now get any on you.

Now we move to Saturday.

So we're playing Friday, Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday and Monday this week.

Yeah assume, wow.

Get ready because that's probably what it is going to do that last week too, did we did we do that Thursday, Saturday, Sunday?

Oh?

Yeah, we had the Saturday game Saturday at four thirty.

It's Houston ten and five at the Chargers eleven and.

Four, Black by two and a half.

I think the Chargers get a lot of respect that they may not deserve, but anyway.

Go yeah, I'm going to go with Houston in this game.

I know that's probably bad for the Patriots, but I just what respect.

Yeah, I'm gonna take this their favorite over Houston.

They've been better than Houston all year.

No, they haven't.

Not lately, No, I don't think so.

I disagree.

What's their record?

Eleven and four, which Houston's record, But I'm telling you late, don't you think Houston's played better lately.

No, they just barely squeaked by the Raiders at home last week.

I don't know.

I think while the Chargers went to Dallas and.

Everyone's a scare to Houston, I'm told.

But that See, that's your problem is you're listening.

To the not A lot of people are say I'm sorry, Mike, who did you take?

I'm gonna take the upset.

I'm gonna take Houston.

Good, Mike, I just.

Think they're better.

I'm gonna take Houston as well.

I'll in all seriousness, I've been very impressed with the Chargers' resilience of being able to say, I know everybody thinks that we're done because of all our injuries, but they just keep I mean, they beat the Eagles, they beat the Cowboys, they just keep winning these games.

And I kind of agree with I don't think Houston's better.

I think the Chargers have a better team, but they're just beat the crap.

But I've been impressed with the way they've played.

So what did the email of remind us that we're really rooting for the Chargers to beat Houston?

Yes, because that would mean the Chargers would want to play hard in the.

Last I'm going to root for the charge.

I'm picking the Chargers to good.

There we go, Chargers win this game.

But I also think there's something about Harbaugh.

I think, you know, I think their defense has played really well.

There.

Defensive coordinator is getting some consideration, you know, as a head coach candidate.

They've been impressive.

The Chargers.

That's a that's a pretty good team.

I thought that they would crumble.

I've been ridiculously impressed with Herbert's toughness this year, not just because of the broken hands, but the way he's played.

Yeah, I think Harbaugh might have the right messaging for this time of the year, you know.

Just so weird.

Saturday at eight, This is on Prime.

Oh, by the way, that game was on NFL Network.

This game, I think is on Peacock.

Hold on, I don't think I hold the phone the phone.

Yes, this game is on Peacock.

Oh no, I think I tried to do Paramount last night and it wouldn't let me on.

Maybe I do get Peacock.

Yeah.

Baltimore at green Bay, Yeah, Baltimore seven and eight at green Bay, nine to five and more.

Green Bay by three.

And I do not know the status Mike of a lot of the Green Bay players.

I'm not sure about Jordan Love.

Leon Arrison's out.

Uh what about Lamar?

Yeah, Lamar as well didn't practice.

Yeah, I'm just gonna.

By the way, you said Kittle's healthy and the report is that he is not healthy.

Yeah, they had a good game the other night.

I'm gonna take green Bay at home.

I'll lay the points.

Green Bay.

I will take green Bay.

Baltimore is I'm gonna take Green Bay as well.

If their coach doesn't want to win, then I'm gonna guess they're not gonna win.

Yeah, I'm gonna.

I'm gonna.

I think he should be fired.

I think that's a fireable offense.

You're you're playing for your playoff life, and your best player is hurt and your second best player is standing on the sideline and the coat next to you, and you claim that it wasn't what you wanted.

I think you need to go.

And I think the I think Heartall was a really good coach.

I just think it's time.

Wow, I'm gonna take Green Bay as well.

Hard to argue with that, though.

Now we move over to Sunday, the traditional Sunday at One games Seattle is twelve and three at Carolina eight and seven on CBS.

By the way, every time Jim Nance does a broadcast, does somebody just die the week before?

Like he's always like, you know, we've just lost one of our CBS family and it's some guy that you know, nobody knows except people that work at CBA.

Like it happens like every time he's on a broadcast, and not just football, the Masters or whatever.

It's it's like this always somebody he's memorializing.

It works.

A lot of people are always dying.

I guess what do you got.

Paul, Carolina.

I'm sorry Seattle by seven seven.

Yeah, I'm gonna take Seattle to win, but I'm gonna take the points for your Are they in.

First place right now?

Yeah?

First place?

Yes?

Well that wind doesn't look so pathetic, now, does it, Paul?

It does not My good job by v.

Or whatever the DV o p A is.

So when Seattle wins this game, that you'll go back to have faced two teams with winning records.

This is a tough one.

They don't.

Carolina does not need this game, I believe it or not.

It all comes down to the last game for them.

They if they would were to win, I'm gonna do the I'm going to do the deuce, which is not a good thing considering his track record.

But I'm gonna take Seattle to win in Carolina to cover and it's only two seven oh seven.

Yeah, big spread on the road.

That's the way I'm going to go to I'm I was tempted to pick Carolina out right.

The Rams and Niners need Seattle to lose that.

Yeah.

Sunday at one, Arizona three and twelve at Cincinnati five and ten on Fox.

Cincinnati by seven, Oh yeah.

This is an easy one.

Gross.

I'll take Cincinnati lay the points.

Yeah, I'm going to as well.

I look forward to the game starting and whoever does the announcing telling me how great Jacoby Brissett's been playing despite the fact that they lose every game.

Bengals.

Yeah, Bengals.

Joe Burrow on a mission to show he's having fun, right just to you know, quiet the people.

So although he started it, you just have to shouldn't have to try it.

He started it, he did, you know, it's not made up?

Yeah, So Cincinnati both weighs.

Sunday at one on CBS Pittsburgh nine and six at Cleveland three and twelve.

Pittsburgh by three, and I believe a win would clinch the division.

Correct, Yes, because Baltimore needs Cleveland to win.

Right somehow, Pittsburgh has a chance to close it out, close out the division, and no DK.

He suspended.

I'll take Pittsburgh and Poe.

Uh.

I'm tempted by just them.

I'm gonna lay the points.

I'll lay them.

Yeah, I'll take Pittsburgh both ways.

Although this is one of those Fred Kirsh Division games on the road, you never know, but Pittsburgh's got too much to play for.

They have to they have to win this one.

Yeah, I'll go with Pittsburgh as well.

Sunday at one on Fox, Jacksonville eleven and four at Indy eight and seven.

Jacksonville by six and a half.

M M yeah, I mean, Mike, Jacksonville owns, Indy owns.

Yeah, I know I was gonna see Jacksonville anyway.

Nice story of Philip Rose.

I mean, they're not winning, they're giving up a ton of points now too, So I'm gonna take them Jacksonville.

I'll lay the points.

Yeah, I'm gonna take Jacksonville both ways as well, and I agree about Philip Rivers.

I thought he played pretty well the other night.

Yeah, I will go Jacksonville as well.

Both ways.

Sunday at one on Fox, Tampa Bay seven and eight at Miami six and nine.

Uh, Tampa by five and a half.

Check real, they getting a lot of respect Tampa is.

Yeah, they have not been eliminated.

They're seven and eight, so.

They need they need to win any Carolina to well.

I think they just need to win.

Yeah, you say five and a half, five and a half, five and a half, you I'll take.

I'll take Tampa.

I'll lay the points.

Yeah, I know.

I hear your Tampa is in a funk.

I hear your Tampa's in a fine I know you know.

I'm gonna take Tampa to win.

But I'll take the points that I attempted to take the upset but quin yours man.

Yeah, that was tough.

I'll take the points as well.

I'll take the points as well.

Tampa will squeak by.

You know now that Drake May is in the league, Drake Drake May May, We're not so dependent on making the league good with Baker in it.

Oh oh wow, that's a change, you know.

So Yeah, now, now we've got Drake May.

So you can't say Drake Drake May May.

You gotta say Drake Drake May May.

That's the cadence.

You can't.

I don't really understand it still, and I've had three different versions of the explanation.

So I'm going to stay out of His nickname is Drake May.

My guess is it's not for me, So I'm going to stay in my lane.

It's for all of us.

Paul.

Yeah, Sunday at one on CBS, it's New Orleans five and ten at Tennessee three and twelve.

New Orleans by two and a half.

Give Kellen Moore some credit.

Yeah, they haven't given up.

They've been they've been winning games.

Yep.

Yeah, you know, probably not necessarily what they want to be doing, but first year coach, trying to establish something.

I'm going to go with Tennessee.

The upset at home cam Ward.

So I'm going to take the Saints.

But I have a feeling Mike is right.

This is one of those games where everybody's like, oh, you know, the Saints are I'm playing.

This is a game quote unquote a bad team is supposed to win on the road, and they cough it up.

I'm going to take the Saints because I think Tennessee is that bad.

I am too.

I'm gonna take the Saints, all right.

Now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock and we moved to four oh five on CBS.

The Giants.

No, please, no, what is the worst match.

To the Giants?

Two and thirteen?

At the right is two and thirteen?

All right?

It is by one and a half.

The toilet Bowl.

No brock Bowers, No brock Bowers.

Someone else got on ir too.

Boil boy, Oh boy?

What to do?

What to do?

Ah?

I'm just I'm gonna go with Geno Smith and the Raiders.

I don't know why.

I'm gonna lose this game.

No matter who I pick, I'm gonna take the Giants.

Don't ask me why.

I have no rational explanation.

Yeah, I'm gonna take the Giants as well.

Now we go to four to twenty five.

When's the last time there were only two games in the four o'clock window?

Because this would be the Christmas Because there's not enough games.

They're all being played on Thursday, right h four on Fox Philadelphia ten and five at Buffalo eleven and four all Patriots eyes will be on.

This case is basically a nationally televised game.

The whole country's going to get this game, except for New York and Vegas.

Right, Buffalo by one and a half.

Yeah, I gotta I gotta do it.

I'm gonna take Philly.

I'm a little bit concerned about Josh Allen on his foot.

I'll take the Eagles.

I'm gonna take Buffalo.

I don't I kind of agree with Fred.

I don't think the Eagles look quite right to me.

I don't think they looked all that good against Washington the other day in that Saturday game.

I thought they I think if the Redskins, I'm sorry, the Commanders played, you know a little bit better, I think they could have pulled off an upset.

So I'll take I'll take Buffalo at home.

Yeah, I'm gonna I have to take Buffalo.

Obviously, I'm rooting for Philadelphia, and sometimes when that happens, I just picked them.

Anyway, I can't do it.

It's just too this is too easy for Buffalo.

Sunday Night eight twenty on NB Sure, good matchup, Chicago eleven and four at the forty nine Ers eleven and four, Chicago's already wrapped up their division.

Is that true.

I don't think that's true.

I thought they did or maybe they just clinched the playoffs.

They did something they either maybe they just clinched the playoff birth.

Maybe they they may have clinched.

They're just playoff birth.

Okay, the Niners by three.

The Niners.

The Niners and Seahawks control their destiny.

If the Niners went out, they're the number one seed.

If the Seahawks went out, they're the number one seed.

The Rams need some help.

Da, I'm gonna take San Francisco.

That's a that's a good game though.

Sunday night, I'll fard to checking that one out.

I'll take San Francisco a lay the points.

Yeah, I'm gonna take San Francisco as well.

I think that offense is clicking, and I don't think Caleb Williams is going to have the luxury of a slow start, which he's kind of gotten into a little bit of a pattern.

He's much better later, but it might be too much.

Yeah, I've been on Chicago most of the season.

You were right, but I was wrong.

I was not a believer.

I was off Chicago last week and I got screwed by that, but I'm going to be off him again this week.

I think San Francisco at home beats.

The Bears should be a good game.

Yeah, I that's a good one.

That's a good one.

All right.

Now we go to Monday Night on Ish Peirn and it's not eight fifteen, the Rams eleven and four at the Falcons six and nine.

Knowing the Rams by seven and a half Rams Rams, Yeah, same with me.

Indoors, that offense I think will put up too many points for Kirk Cousins in that pass rush could make life difficult for the old man.

I'm going to go with the Rams as well well.

Although I am not a believer in the Rams defense overall.

I think they have a good pass rush, but I don't think their secondary is very good.

Right now, we move back to one o'clock, and of course it's the Patriots at twelve and three visiting New Jersey to take on the Jets on Fox three and twelve.

Patriots by thirteen and a half, tied for the biggest spread of the week.

Yep, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to Evan.

I mean, he told me no chance, but I kind of agree with him.

I'm gonna take the Patriots by a nice comfy score of thirty four to ten.

Yeah, I see a similar kind of game.

I'm gonna say thirty three to six.

I don't see any offense for their Jets, and this is just a focused game special teams.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same thing on the kickoffs.

Just ki kick him in the end zone and give him the thirty five.

They're not going to do anything with that, and just don't give the Jets any points.

And you should be okay.

In this one.

Listen, it's a division game the Jets.

You just never know in this league.

Patriots forty two ten.

You see me right it in.

You see me writ it in.

When he started, you know they have to give the Patriots are going to have to give up that first drive touchdown.

Right right and after it, and then that let your blog will be blowing up.

I would have to to think about it, but I would wonder a first drive touchdown in this game, would it?

I think it would be the most surprising one that they would have allowed, counting Cleveland at home, counting the one they allowed to Carolina, at home, the one they allowed to Tennessee on the road.

This would be I think more surprising than even any of those.

Yeah, even the first time the Jets did it in the Thursday night game.

They went right down the field and scored.

Yep.

But I think Patriots handle the Jets in New Jersey.

I'm probably going to be mostly Patriots fans in the crowd, if you know, like, why would it just Fireman ed?

He's out, He's been gone since like week three.

You know, I wonder how many empty seats they'll be just period, Yeah, you know.

Yeah, it's a big place, a big place Christmas weekend.

Yeah, screw that terrible matchup.

Ye all right, Well listen, it's not the end of the year, but it's getting there, right It is Christmas.

Two more shows until the end of the year, right, Yeah, So I hope everyone has a good day tomorrow.

Patriots are off.

Where off, Mike and I will be with you on Sunday, Yeah.

Show pre game show.

I'll be in New Jersey doing the blog.

Everybody behave If things don't go one hundred percent the way you want it to go, the things.

They're going to.

So I think you've all been a good again.

I don't want criticism, but I want constructive criticism, not we're frauds.

You don't need that, all right.

I gotta tell you, if they lose to the Jets, I might be in the fraud category.

They had a bad way, they came out unfocused, and you know, they deserve criticism.

But I still think they're I think they're a pretty good team.

I mean, I think we're twelve and three.

All right, see you later.

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