Episode Transcript
OK, my gardening friends, today we are talking tomatoes.
Specifically, what in the world is going on with your tomatoes in the middle of the summer?
So if the bottoms of your fruit are turning brown and mushy, if the leaves have been mysteriously disappearing overnight, the plants just look pale and puny, or they are suddenly covered in funky spots, hang tight.
We are digging deep into what I would consider to be probably the four biggest Midsummer tomato problems Based on what you all send to me, Blossom and rot, hornworms, nutrient imbalances and diseases.
So today on Just Grow Something, I'm going to break it down with practical steps that you can take whether you're growing in ground, in raised beds, or in containers.
Let's dig in.
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So I get direct messages all the time with pictures from people, especially this time of year when it's like, Oh my gosh, what is going on with my tomato plants?
I also see this in a lot of the Facebook groups that we're part of.
I haven't seen very many this year in the Just Grow Something gardening friends Facebook group, which hint, hint, nudge, nudge, if you're not in there, get in there.
So either I have educated you guys a lot about this and nobody has any problems or it's just that, you know, you're not asking in the group.
But these are all the things that I see, especially with beginning gardeners or somebody who hasn't grown tomatoes before that they start to freak out about.
So that first one is blossom and rot.
Generally speaking, we can see this at two times the year.
Sometimes it is very, very early in the season if you are living in a very rainy area or an area where that you get like the heavy spring rains to start with.
And oftentimes this is shortly after you have gotten your tomato plants in the ground.
That fluctuating water is going to tend to produce some blossom and rot, at least in the first few fruits.
But then the plant kind of acclimates and it gets its thing going.
But then we also can see that again here in the Midsummer and leaning in towards the late summer, blossom and rot is a calcium deficiency, but it is not a deficiency necessarily with the soil.
We don't necessarily have low soil calcium.
It is actually a physiological disorder disorder that is caused by a calcium deficiency in the fruit itself.
Calcium is notoriously slow moving in soil and in plants.
This has a lot to do with its charge, the charge of the atom.
But essentially when we have fluctuating water availability, that is going to block the calcium uptake.
So even if your soil has plenty of calcium in it, the plant can't access it as well.
And So what you'll see is these sunken brown or black patches at the fruit blossom end, hence the term blossom end rot.
And oftentimes this starts to happen around the mid summer.
This, by the way, is not restricted to tomatoes.
You can get this in your squashes, your zucchinis.
You can get them in eggplant or Peppers.
So this isn't just, you know, relating to our tomatoes, but it is something that we see most frequently in tomatoes.
The way to combat this number one is by using mulch.
If you can mulch really, really heavily, that is going to help keep that soil moisture more consistent.
And then if you are having to water once again, less frequent, more thorough waterings, we, we want the roots to have access to the water.
That's what we mean by consistent moisture, not necessarily that you are watering all the time.
We want to water deeply, but we want it to be sort of that access to be fairly even.
So less frequent, more thoroughly, so deep and regular, but not short and sporadic essentially is what we're going for.
OK, that's for your in ground beds, but also for your raised beds.
I mean, the same rules apply in terms of using mulch to help trap that moisture and also to keep the root zone cooler.
But also in, in raised planters, we want to double check our drainage.
So make sure that the runner, the water is not running off before it soaks in, or make sure that you know when you're watering very, very deeply or you're getting a very deep rainfall that the bottoms of those beds are draining properly as well.
You don't have that those roots sitting in water all the time.
It's kind of a double edged sword, like too dry and the calcium can't move, too wet and the calcium can't move.
So we just want to make sure that it's a consistent level of moisture.
And then with containers, you might actually see this a little bit more frequently than those of us gardening in like raised beds or in ground.
So because it is a little bit more difficult sometimes to manage the moisture level in pots.
So I would always recommend planting in the largest container you can for the plant that you are growing.
So for tomatoes, I would recommend something that's a minimum of 5 gallons.
If you can get away with 10 gallons, that's even better if that larger volume of soil is going to allow you to hold on to more of that moisture.
And so that's going to be better for the plant.
I would also recommend using a balanced slow release type of a fertilizer that includes some calcium because once again, remember we have a limited volume of soil, which means that soil can hold a limited amount of nutrients.
So we need to be replacing those nutrients.
And oftentimes, you know, potting soil and stuff isn't going to include a ton in terms of calcium.
So you want to make sure that you are including some of this.
Now you might hear, you know, people talking about adding crushed egg shells or even a Tums tablet that sort of can help, but it it isn't going to help immediately.
It's something that you would want to do like as you are putting the soil together at the beginning of the season or when you're planting the plant, so it gets a chance to break down and release into that soil.
So just look for amendments that actually have some calcium in them or something that says it's got the micronutrients right.
Once you see this blossom and rot on the fruit, there is no way to reverse it.
So you immediately just need to go ahead and pull that fruit.
If you want to, you can cut that part off and the rest of it's going to be fine.
Obviously you have to use it right away.
So once you see it happening, you want to sort of take these steps to make sure that you have a really good mulch around there you are, you know, kind of seeing what the the moisture level is like.
Now, obviously, if you've been in an area like us where it has just dumped buckets of rain off and on it it the most of the summer, then there's only so much you can do to fix that.
Mulch is going to help.
So if you have a good layer of an organic mulch, this is going to help to slow some of that water down and it gives the chance of the soil to be able to absorb it rather than it just running off and then hold on to it.
So this is going to help you a little bit, but at some point, you know, the soil can only take so much and there's only so much you can do.
So, but if it's a case of watering, then you can prevent the next fruit from getting that blossom and rot if you can modify what it is that you are doing as the gardener.
OK, the second thing is those tomato hornworms, If you've never experienced these guys before it, it is amazing the devastation that these little buggers can do just overnight.
It can completely strip the foliage off of a plant just in the overnight hours.
They're like these little ninjas right?
One day your plant looks fine, the next day you come out it looks like someone took a weed whacker to them or just went through and cut all of the the leaves off It's insane.
If you have seen these guys they are big fat green caterpillars.
They have a horn like thing on them.
That's hence the term hornworm.
They blend in to your plants like camouflage.
You really have to know what you are looking for when you are looking for these guys.
And they will mow down leaves, they will munch on the fruit and they leave behind little dark droppings.
This is like their calling card.
You almost know that you have a hornworm before you see the defoliation.
If you recognize the worm poop, OK, This is how you handle them because they have to be handled.
They are so destructive.
It's it's it's crazy.
A little trick that I learned was to take a black light out after the sun goes down.
Hornworms glow neons on green under UV light and so if you go out with a handheld black light after dark, you will be able to very easily see them and then just hand pick them off.
OK, if you are squeamish, you are going to want to have gloves on.
Even if you're not squeamish, you might want to have gloves on because these guys can really grab on and you it's just very disconcerting to have them like grab onto you while you're trying to throw them into your bucket or whatever.
OK, so, but you as soon as you see this defoliation starting to happen, you need to go out and inspect like every day, OK, because they, they likely there are more of them than what you might think.
So check them early in the morning if you can look again in the evening.
If you've got the black light, go ahead and use the black light.
They're going to glow like a neon sign.
Trust me.
But if you don't have the time to be doing that after dark, then just be vigilant about going out there every time you're in your garden and just look for them.
Pick them off by hand, drop them in some soapy water, or if you've got chickens, feed them to the chickens.
I will caution you, people have said to hang on to the hornworms and for people who have bearded Dragons so they can feed them to their bearded Dragons, please don't do this.
Because if those hornworms have been feeding on the tomatoes or even your Peppers, I've had them stripped by Peppers too, that means that they have been eating a nightshade.
And this can actually be toxic to the lizards if they eat these hornworms.
So if you see that somebody is buying hornworms, most instances these hornworms have actually been grown specifically to feed to these bearded Dragons.
And they aren't ones that have been growing up wild and, and eating on these, you know, these plants that can be toxic to them.
So don't do it that way.
But their chickens, the chickens aren't going to have any problem with them.
They can't eat enough of them to make them sick and if you have your plants are in containers and you can isolate the affected plant immediately, that makes it easier for you to keep them from spreading until you actually can find them on the plant.
I'm telling you they are.
They are really good at camouflaging themselves so just check frequently and and get rid of the little buggers as soon as you find them.
As a new rosebush Mama, I have been keeping an eye out for pests and diseases in my plant from heirloom roses as it goes through its first full season here.
The weather has been crazy wet and the humidity is high and that's usually the perfect breeding ground for things like black spot and surprisingly I haven't seen any problems thus far.
But if this is something that you've struggled with, it helps to be sure that we are watering at the base of the plant to keep the foliage dry, removing any infected leaves so the fungus doesn't spread, and don't compost those.
Please get rid of them and be sure to clean our pruners between cuttings to avoid spreading it to other plants.
Now, I've also been watching out for aphids, which are notoriously attracted to roses, which I did see early on on my plant, but I knocked them down with a spray from the hose and waited for the ladybugs to come in and do their job, which they did.
But there are sprays that you can use and beneficial insects that you can purchase if you have a lot of roses and a lot of these issues.
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So the third thing that we might see at this point in the season is nutrient imbalances.
You know, our tomato plants by this point likely have been fruiting pretty heavily and that heavy fruiting can deplete the nitrogen and the iron and the magnesium in the soil and also from within the plant.
So you might start to see some pale or yellowing leaves.
This might signal that it's time for you to give them a little bit of of food, some plant food, or to amend that soil in some way.
Just be aware to not overfeed.
We don't want excess nitrogen, OK, because we're going to get a whole bunch of less lush foliage, but we're not going to get much in terms of blossoms or than actual fruit.
So if you are gardening in ground, then you can just add a balanced granular fertilizer when your plants start to bloom or when you start to see them having a problem and that's going to kind of be a slow release.
You can absolutely do like compost tea or just side dress with some additional compost in the mid season.
This is going to help, although I would say that, you know, the compost is probably not going to do is not going to be quick acting, right.
We have to wait for that compost to sort of be bio active and allow the microbes to come up and start to be able to move those nutrients around.
So I would recommend something that is a liquid that is fairly fast acting.
It's going to get into that soil and it's going to be immediately available to the plants while it's still feeding the microbes.
OK, if you're gardening in raised beds, same thing, you know, you don't have as a restricted amount of soil volume as if you were doing them in pots, but you do still need to replace those nutrients probably more frequently than you would if you are in in any ground bed.
So if you can feed a little bit more frequently, again, avoiding that high nitrogen once the fruit has started to set, if you are in containers like pots, then you likely want to be feeding at a minimum once a month, but I would say every couple of weeks probably depending on the volume of soil.
And you can use things that have those sort of calcium supplements.
So tomato tone I think is one of them.
That's kind of rebalances things a little bit.
But just make sure that you are using something that is, you know, broad spectrum or I wouldn't say broad spectrum, but that has a a wide variety of nutrients in it so that you're not overfeeding one thing and underfeeding another in that smaller volume.
So if you have used a potting soil that says, you know, it feeds for six weeks or it feeds for three months or whatever, don't rely on that too much, especially when it comes to like tomatoes, they are they are kind of heavy feeders.
And so I would absolutely, you know, probably start feeding your plants within the first month or so of of getting them planted transplanted, and then just continue to do that for the rest of the season.
And no matter where it is that you are growing your tomato, you kind of want to just watch the plant and not the calendar when it comes to to feeding the soil.
You know, if, if the plants are starting to show signs that they just don't look healthy and if we're looking at them turning yellow or pale or just kind of looking sad, right?
Like, yes, there is some natural die off with some of these leaves.
The plant leaves usually lower down on the plant, they start to die off as the demands move further up the plant because that's where the plant is fruiting.
And so that's naturally going to happen.
But if it's excessive and it's moving further up the plant, then we really need to make sure that we are feeding the plant.
So don't just go off of whatever the calendar says.
Oh, I'm, you know, I'm feeding once a month.
If your plants look like they need it, then absolutely give them some nutrition.
And then problem #4 is leaf diseases.
We talked about this last week in terms of some of the fungal diseases that we might see.
But if you, you know, are in some place where these this summer has been wet and it has been humid, it is absolutely fueling outbreaks of Septoria leaf spot and early blight in a lot of areas.
A lot of the experts, the horticultural experts are are just reporting a lot more fungal pressure than usual during this year.
So Septoria leaf spots, right?
You get these small little circular spots with a Gray or a tan center to them.
They have a dark border.
And inside these spots, you're going to see these little black speckled fruiting bodies.
This is all going to start on the lower leaves and it moves upward in the plants.
Generally speaking, Septoria doesn't actually affect the fruits directly, but it can affect the foliage.
And the effect of the foliage is interrupting the photosynthesis.
And that of course, is going to affect how your plant's fruit.
Not to mention, it's just going to start to continue to take out all that foliage, which is eventually going to take out the plant.
So the sooner you can get a hold of it, the better.
Early blight, which is an altenaria, this has larger brown targeted like ringed leaf spots.
They could be up to 1/2 an inch and these absolutely can affect the fruit.
You also may see it on the stems.
So anytime you see a stem that has like this brown, you know, it looks like a bull's eye almost, or it's got the rings like you would from a, from a dart board, that's early blight.
This actually causes more severe defoliation than Septoria does.
And oftentimes here, it always seems like I get like the early blight first and then it moves into Septoria 1 follows the other.
But again, usually this is in the early spring, but Midsummer right now, we're seeing a lot of this throughout the US because we just have so much more rain than normal.
We're also have areas that are seeing so much more humidity than usual.
So if you start to see any of these start to occur in your plants, you want to remove that infected lower foliage.
Now, we don't want to remove more than 1/3 of the overall leaf mass because then you're really going to start to affect the growth of the plant, the photosynthesis.
So do your best to kind of balance this if it's if it's just the bottom, you know.
1218 inches or so and your plant is already 3 foot tall?
Then yes by all means pull all of that off and do what you can.
You also want to make sure that when you are working in these plants that you sanitize all of the tools that you are using.
So a bleach solution like one part bleach to 9 part water is really a good way to do this.
You can just have it in a bucket and swish it in there in between plants.
That way you are not moving it from one plant to another.
Same thing goes with your gloves.
If you're using gloves, you want to make sure that you are using gloves specifically isolated to these plants and that you are cleaning them in between uses.
Just like we talked about last week, increasing your airflow so you know, proper spacing or staking up your crowded plants is a really good way to sort of slow this down.
Making sure that we're using drip irrigation, making sure that we're using mulch to prevent the splash dispersal of these spores.
And then if you have the opportunity and you have had these problems in your tomatoes before and you have the room to do it, you you likely want to go ahead and rotate your crops and you don't want to put anything in the same space that's in the Solon ACA family for about two to three years.
I know it's very difficult for some of us to be able to do that because we just aren't gardening in a very large space.
But if you can do it or even just take a year off from growing anything in the Solon ACA family, then that's going to help with this.
You do have fungicide options.
We talked about some of this last week, sulfur or copper based sprays or dusts you can use about every week to two weeks when you've got that really wet weather going on.
And that milk spray that we talked about is going to help to a certain extent, not quite as well on these two diseases as you would see on sale, a powdery mildew, these are a bit more aggressive.
So I honestly would stick to in my instance, I stick to the copper based sprays.
I do not do any kind of conventional, you know, synthetic things, Mancoseb or, or any of those types of things.
If it's going to require me to spray something like that, that I'm just not going to, I'm going to pull the plant or I'm going to, you know, try to prune off as much as I can and then, you know, just let the plant do what it's going to do.
I, I, I'm not going to give up the idea of using everything organic just to save a plant.
It that's, it doesn't make it worth it to me.
So that's on you.
That's what you can decide for you and your garden.
But for me, I just, I tried to stick with the organic methods.
OK, so blossom and rot, right?
We want to mulch.
We want to switch to some more consistent watering.
If our watering has been the problem, supplement with some calcium in your raised containers if that is a problem.
If you haven't done any of that yet, hornworms you want to be checking nightly, you know, go out there with a black light or every morning, go out there.
You're just going to be hand picking these little buggers off of there for nutrient issues.
We want to feed moderately.
So if you are in a small container, this might mean weekly that you have to be feeding these plants.
If you're out in a raised planter or in an in ground bed, you might want a side dress.
You just want to avoid excess nitrogen once these plants have started to set their fruit.
And then of course, our buddies Septoria leaf spot and early blight.
Prune those lower leaves, sanitize your tools, make sure that you've got a good airflow going around your plants, use irrigation and mulch, rotate those crops and then use a fungicide like copper when the early signs appear.
Tomatoes can sometimes be fussy mid season.
I mean, they, they start to seem like they're just over it and they don't, they don't want to be here anymore.
And so they, they look, you know, for all different kinds of ways to like just give up the ghost and be done.
But if you have a little bit of know how, then you can keep your plants productive and very, very happy right through into the fall.
And I tell you, if you're looking at a fall garden, don't discount your tomatoes because once that heat sort of breaks from the Midsummer into the late summer and we get to that fall weather, tomatoes seem to kind of perk up a little bit.
They do still need the heat, but they just don't have the same disease pressures and stuff or even the insect pest pressures as they normally do.
So if you can keep them going until then, then I think that you will be very happy because even tough seasons can be managed.
Until next time, my gardening friends, keep on cultivating that dream garden, and we'll talk again soon.