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The A&G Replay Tuesday Hour Three

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Speaker 1

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George Washington Broadcast Center.

Speaker 2

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and get Catie and no Hee Armstrong and Gutty Strong.

We are not wrong.

We are still on vacation, and yeah, we're trying to recharge.

Speaker 3

We're trying to just everything ready to go for a bit, Noon twenty twenty six.

You know, I gotta get her name faces on.

I'd like to have a word with future Shoe.

You got on the scale this morning.

You said, oh my god, what did you expect the way you've been eating on vacation?

What did you expect?

Answer me, Well, enjoy and don't.

Speaker 2

Worry about it.

You can lose it in the new year.

Enjoy some fabulous Armstrong and Geddy replay.

We'll get this.

Speaker 4

A new ranking of the top global airlines was just released and not a single US carrier made the top ten.

Luckily, no one's flying on US airline.

We'll hear this news because there's seat screens work and the Wi Fi cost thirty dollars.

Speaker 2

But this is true.

Speaker 4

Spirit Airlines ranked one hundred and fifteenth, which is really nice because there's only eighty three airlines.

Speaker 3

So I want to talk a little bit about flying later.

As the Secretary of Transportation came out yesterday and said some things, and as they were presented by the mainstream media, of course I have to present everything and Trump administration is stupid and hilarious, and he talked about people dressing up more to fly on planes.

I thought that is kind of a weird thing to say, but then I heard it in context which I thought was really interesting, and that was regarding the topic of like all these fights on planes and the lack of decorum that we've started having in airports and on planes, and it gets the whole culture conversation that I brought up on the One More Thing podcast with Elvis and the Beatles and long hair.

Speaker 2

Yeah, anyway, I want to talk about that again later.

Interesting.

Speaker 3

Would it be possible to get to an airline going that you had to apply to fly on and it wouldn't be like a really high bar, But if you're just a jackass or you ever, you know, pulled, you know, wacky behavior, you'd be off the list.

It'd be like a private club, an airline club, but we wouldn't get like, it wouldn't be exclusive to like the top two percent.

It'd be exclusive to like the top eighty five percent, just not the fifteen percent of America that makes life miserable, or maybe ninety eight percent.

I mean the percentage of people that are ever gonna freaking fight, throw punches or start screaming at you know, a plane has got to be pretty damn small, right, I'm telling you, I'm going to get that started.

How much does a plane cost?

I got to buy a bunch of planes first step.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 3

This Fox poll that's out is getting a lot of attention and more the more I dug into it.

Speaker 2

It should be getting a lot of attention.

Speaker 3

This is some I was gonna say it's bad news for Trump.

It is because he's in office currently.

But what it says the overall takeaway for me as I read it, is we got a very big chunk of America that is unhappy with their economic situation or the economic situation of the country.

And they were unhappy under Obama at the end, they're feeling better under Trump first term, but still it's kind of unhappy, really unhappy under Biden and really unhappy under Trump again.

Speaker 2

And so it's just.

Speaker 3

Our politics are going to swing back and forth like crazy, and each election, pundits who make their living trying to figure out the electorates say the Democrats have gotten back the Hispanic vote and the young, uneducated white male and then when the other party wins and Trump wins, is ah, Trump has figured out how to talk to the high school graduate, white working No, it's just all these people think they're getting screwed and they're unhappy at the time.

Speaker 2

They don't follow politics that closely.

Speaker 3

They just want to boot out who's ever in there and think the next person will be better.

Speaker 2

I think that's it.

There's a lot of that.

Speaker 3

Currently, three quarters of voters view the economy negatively.

It's worse than the seventy percent that said the same at the end of Black Biden's term.

Speaker 2

That might be the only number you need to talk about.

Speaker 3

So at the end of Biden's first term when he got heaved out because Trump's economy was so good, you know, first term, seventy percent had a negative viewed economy.

It's now seventy six percent.

Yeah, I think Trump may be getting hosed on that.

And I based that partly on a piece I read by Larry Cudlow.

He was talking about how since uh, Trump has been in office for eight months now and the inflation of groceries during his you need to say that again, that is an excellent point.

How do we all forget that every single day?

Oh yeah, it's just eight months or so, or three years into the Trump term.

No, we have many months of consumer price index reports.

I should say we just started Trump's term.

I know, I know, I know, it's amazing, But the increase in the price of groceries, the inflation of groceries.

Speaker 2

Has actually been very, very modest.

Speaker 3

The cumulative grocery price jump is one point four percent, and Cudlow say says that he has nothing to apologize for, his point being that the terrible inflation of the Biden years.

You've phrased it as people still haven't gotten used to seeing those prices on items.

The other reality is, though wages have increased significantly, they haven't increased nearly enough to eat up all of the inflation and prices, and so people are still getting abused by the prices they see every single day, and they've actually gone up a teeny tiny bit since Trump took office, which is not surprising, but partly because Trump promised he would lower prices, and on a few groceries they have lowered, but most it's just arresting the rise in prices or just.

Speaker 2

Letting them rise a little bit.

I think people are.

Speaker 3

People expected much more than they could reasonably expect to get.

Speaker 2

Partially because they were told unreasonable things.

Yeah, that's true.

That well, that's American elections.

Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 3

Well, since you brought that up, we'll get into the specifics on what people feel about these things.

Compared to a year ago, voters say their Seventy eight percent of voters say their utilities have gone up, two thirds say their healthcare has gone up, two thirds say their housing has gone up.

Speaker 2

Over halfs say their gasolina is higher.

Speaker 3

Eighty five percent say their grocery prices are higher, including sixty percent who say they're and groceries have gone up a lot.

Eighty five percent say their grocery prices are more expensive under Trump than they were before, and sixty percent say a lot.

Speaker 2

That's that's a bad political.

Speaker 3

Environment for you, Whether it's fair or not, that doesn't really factor in unless you can get out there and message in such a way that you convince people it's not your fault.

Speaker 2

Yeah, by the way, they better message aggressively.

Speaker 3

I mean, because for one thing, people are coming to the annual renewal of various things, their homewress, insurance, their current insurance, their healthcare plan, their rent, their least whatever, and the Biden inflation hadn't hit them in a long time in those categories, and now they're getting punched in the stomach.

By the way, because we usually break down the polls Republican and Democrat, because sometimes the number for Democrats can be ninety eight percent and for Republicans it's two percent.

You average it out to fifty and what does that tell you about anything?

But on this particular topic that I just hit you with all those numbers, it was majorities of Republicans that agree with the majorities of Democrats on all of those numbers, except for gas.

All the other numbers, Oh, it's majority of Republicans say, yeah, it's gotten more expensive.

Speaker 2

How about this number.

Speaker 3

At the end of Biden's term, voters said by a thirty point margin that his policies had done more to hurt than help their families.

Speaker 2

I remember we talked about that a lot.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the new survey shows almost eight identical results thirty one point margin that Trump's economic policies have hurt rather than help them.

Speaker 2

Wow.

Speaker 3

Wow, you know one more excuse for Trump.

He's got the entirety of the media against him, but that is electorally disastrous.

By a two to one margin, voters say Trump is more responsible for the current economy than Biden.

That doesn't make any sense obviously, since Trumps, since you know, you got to bake.

Speaker 2

The cake of the economy.

Speaker 3

It takes a long time to steer the giant aircraft carrier of the economy.

It turns very slowly.

But the only saying is so true.

Presidents get more credit or blame for everything that happens to the economy because the predecessor usually you know, will put the ingredients in the cake.

Well, and we're talking about the percentage of the economy or how do I face this exactly?

That the president in the federal government can affect it all because your state is really important to the economy.

It's laws, regulations, not to mention hello, market forces.

Yeah, we shouldn't be talking about the government much at all when we're talking about the economy.

It's way over involved in the economy.

So the idea that the president can wave a magic fiscal wand and turn things around is just a fantasy that's been you know, sold by both parties for a long time.

So I get why people are fooled by it, but it's ridiculous.

Again, it's two to one voters say Trump is more responsible for the current economy than Biden, and like eighty percent of people say the economy for them is bad.

It's sixty two to thirty two.

So those are some tough numbers.

Had an inflation is high or has been high, nothing else matters.

That is so flipping true.

And you see it every day.

Speaker 1

I know.

Speaker 3

That's the way it wears on me, even if it's a small thing.

You know, I got and then I end up spending twenty eight dollars.

But if I thought it was going to be sixteen and it's twenty eight, it just puts in my mind a feeling of damn, things are expensive, right, And if under the next guy's watch it goes up to twenty nine, you're not thinking, well, as an annualized rate, that's actually fairly modest.

No, you're thinking, holy crap, that's expensive.

And it compounds inflation like interest compounds, you know, it's it's funny, and I've got all sorts of stuff on inflation I want to talk about later, just because I think it's important people understand it.

That's like, the number one reason you ought to be in favor of serious fiscal responsibility in the government is the insidious hidden tax of inflation.

But was I gonna say I had a point there as an inflation.

Oh, that's right.

So the way that gets you so enthusiastic about saving, or they used to anyway, is they point out that, look, if you make a five percent interest the next year, you're not making you know, you're not getting five percent of a dollar.

Speaker 2

You're getting five percent of a dollar.

Speaker 3

Five, which turns into you know, after a couple of years, it's a dollar six, and it grows and pounds.

Well, inflation's the same thing.

Two percent of a dollar six is more than two percent of a dollar.

Yeah, so it keeps compounding and eating away at your buying power.

So here's where I turned cynical libertarian.

So the government can print money and hand it out to their cronies and or buy your votes, even though it's incredibly ill advised to print that money.

Before we take a break, and get to mail bag.

I'll hit you with a couple of numbers that are bad for the Democrats, just to you know, throw that out.

Speaker 2

There, you go give them one or two.

Speaker 3

Yes, a record low thirty nine percent have a favorable view of the Democratic Party.

That's the lowest they've ever had, prombly because they're so terrible Senate.

Speaker 2

Everyone knows it.

Yeah, yes, or your lips to God's ears.

Speaker 3

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has a twenty two percent approval rating.

Who are you twenty two percent?

What are your standards?

What bad leader of the minority party in the Senate look like?

Speaker 5

And do?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

But really, the overall headline is Trump is down thirty eight percent on the economy.

Then that was his rock solid.

You know, even if you hated Trump, you believed him on the economy first term.

He's now at thirty eight percent on the economy.

That's a big deal.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

The piece I was reading, I can't remember where about Marjorie Taylor Green in a big meeting of the Republican Party in her district and how it became clear that the vast bulk of the folks were with Margie as opposed to Trump in the areas where they disagreed, and there was a fair current of Trump seems more interested in the world.

Marjorie is more about the people of her district than the people in this part of the country.

Yeah, well, Trump yesterday I heard him talking about the stock market records, and Marjorie Taylor Green is probably talking about the price of you know, let us or whatever something was making seven dollars to a whole bunch to a whole bunch voters that never ever think about the stock market.

Speaker 2

Ever, this is not on the radar at.

Speaker 3

All, right, right, Yeah, it's the first signs of out of touch billionaire we've seen a handful of times in recent days.

Yeah, or the signs that we got a really angry proletariat that probably ought to be educated on bigger picture stuff and.

Speaker 2

Have a better understanding the way the world works.

Maybe both both.

Oh Joe throws out of both.

Speaker 3

We've got just made the case that people who never even think about the stock market because they got no money in it, you know, they have the right to be mad.

Speaker 2

Which what side of this are you working?

Speaker 3

Are you jumping back and forth like some sort of frog or flea or some jumping thing I'm trying to have both sides.

Okay, That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Never lose an argument that way, or it's.

Speaker 2

The other way.

Usually I'm trying to anger everyone.

Speaker 1

Yes, the Armstrong and Getty Show or Jack your show podcasts and our hot Legs.

Speaker 2

Strong and Getty Show.

Speaker 3

We had a conversation last week that I was very uncomfortable with, and I felt very guilty about it because I concealed a truth during the conversation, confession being good for the soul.

Speaker 2

I am here to confess it.

Speaker 3

But like all good confessions, they work best in a multiple choice format.

Speaker 2

And so I'm going to give you multiple choices.

Speaker 3

But to up the ante, each of the choices will get successively more evil.

Speaker 2

Oh boy, and you have to choose which one I am actually guilty of.

I'm so uncomfortable right now.

Speaker 3

Hey, I, Joe Getty have a second wife across town, with whom I have two children.

She is in a legal alien and I keep her in line by threatening her with deportation.

Speaker 2

What's okay?

Speaker 3

What's striking about this is you clearly didn't do that, but you're going up.

Speaker 2

The landing at worse, They're going to get worse.

Speaker 3

Yes, yes, okay, anybody want to go for a or you want to go on, you want to roll the dice?

Speaker 2

Anybody, Michael, Clearly that's not true.

Speaker 3

Okay, all right, b I am now and have been for thirty years an active member of the American Communist Party and have been working to subvert the Constitution with every ounce of my energy up to and including acts of violence and sabotage.

So I think I think you've laid a really good premise here, because you've given two very bad choices obviously not true.

Speaker 2

Whatever something, What are off held?

Did you do that?

Speaker 5

Am I gonna want to associate with you after this?

Speaker 2

I don't know, Comrade.

Speaker 3

Perhaps again from a conversation last week in which I conceal the truth or possibility, say, I had never seen Gladiator.

Speaker 2

Until this weekend.

Speaker 3

Oh wow, whoa You saw the movie Gladiator?

My secret shame Gladiator won?

Speaker 2

You remembled it.

Speaker 3

Along with every converse, SA, shit, are you not entertained?

Speaker 2

Ha ha?

I grow.

Speaker 3

I assume you went along with the factors because I watched it with my son Henry a couple of weeks back before we went to Gladiator two.

Speaker 2

He loved it.

And it reminded me how much great it was.

Speaker 3

But I said it might be in my top three movies of all time, and I.

Speaker 2

Did not at that moment revealed, you know, I've never seen that movie.

Wow, that was good because I.

Speaker 3

Knew the derision that would rain down upon Were you probably okay twenty years ago?

Yeah, you were in the middle of raising kids, So no, of course you didn't see that movie.

Speaker 2

Because I had a house full of babies, including a one year old.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I didn't see anything between I don't know whatever years twenty ten and like a year ago.

Speaker 5

I am impressed, Joe, because you carried on a full blown conversation about that movie as if you it was one.

Speaker 2

Of your favorites.

Speaker 3

Well, you know, I read a lot, so I pick up clues from the you know, contexts and stuff like that.

But you know, Jack, you make a good point.

I remember roughly when the movie came out.

Hey, dude, you got to see this is great.

It's an unbelievable movie.

Great guy in Villain.

It's like two and a half hours long, and I'm my responss chance or if I'm gonna have a couple two three hours, I'm gonna spend it silently staring at a screen when you can hang out with your wife or doing something.

I mean, yeah, not gonna happen.

Speaker 2

It was fun.

Nobody could do what Russell Crow did.

I don't know what magic he had there, but you like Gladiator movies.

Speaker 3

It's been stated by various people, including me, that the corruption and rot in our education system, specifically far left in doctrination is is the biggest problem facing America because hearkening back to Lincoln statement that essentially we'd never be brought down from without.

The only way the United States ends is if we commit suicide.

I think that is the route by which we commit suicide.

We raise generation after generation that hates their country and embraces these Marxist principles.

Anyway, that's kind of the umbrella over this featurette this segment quick headline.

Supreme Court clears the way for Trump's cuts to the Education Department.

Speaker 2

It's one of those emergency orders.

Speaker 3

They didn't mention the vote, but it was probably six to three, and there's no like rationale given because they don't do that on emergency orders, generally speaking.

But so he can go ahead and gut the Department of Education.

Wow, gut gut, and I feel like that's language of the left.

Gut oh, gut, gut away, get gut.

Well, the gut's good, that's im.

Yeah, yeah, okay, So I thought this was interesting a couple of wags in the New York Times with the following article.

And we're leading up to the big Gohona, this is like this.

You had the opening opening band play two songs.

Now these guys get like a twenty minute set.

Speaker 2

But don't worry.

Speaker 3

We're heading for the headliner, which is the evil evil teachers unions.

And I stand by those words.

Woo what a smaller education department is doing under Trump, writes the New York Times.

Cuts have hit most of the department's main functions, which include investigating civil rights complaints.

Speaker 2

That means, for the last quite a.

Speaker 3

Few years, enforcing DEI dictates.

That's what they mean by enforcing civil rights complaints, providing financial aid a bloated system that has skyrocketed the costs of college education, which Trump is about to roll back too.

We'll have more time for that another time.

But the federal government is to a large extent getting out of education financing, moving along with the subhead here in the New York Times.

Other things the Department of Education does researching.

Speaker 2

What works in education.

Speaker 3

Oh like when the Department of Education handed down dictates and funding to get rid of phonics in favor of the newest, fashionable whole language learning or whatever, they called it a miserable, miserable failure.

What else do they do testing students on the federal level.

Ah, you could make an argument for that, but as Jack is explained through Goodheart's Law, once you established that as a standard, they pervert the education system, they just score better.

And then finally and dispersing federal funding.

Speaker 2

That's what we need the Education Department to do.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Dispersing federal funding is the leash that they have the school districts on that they yank if they don't fall into line with whatever left wing dictate has been handed down.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

You're seeing Trump use it now in different levels, right, to get it rid of boys in girl sports.

Well right, exactly, And in the past several years it was used to enforce boys in girls sports and to enforce restorative justice practices the bully's best friend, and to force saying if you report violent students to the cops, that's the school to jail pipeline.

Speaker 2

They better not be minorities.

Speaker 3

So yeah, great, the Education Department is just doing wonderful job, a wonderful job through the years, and it's just a tragedy that they're being gutted anyway.

Speaker 2

I promised you.

Speaker 3

Now, ladies and gentlemen, the world's greatest rock and roll band, the Rolling Stones.

Speaker 2

Here's your headliner.

Speaker 3

And this is some great, great writing by Maya Sulkan in the Free Press headline is how do you fix schools?

Teachers' union says stop Trump, ice and fascism.

Maya Sulkin wrote this, Forty percent of American fourth graders have less than basic reading skills that's not proficient.

Speaker 2

Forty percent have less than the basic.

Speaker 3

Level of ability, and only twenty six percent of twelfth grader are considered proficient in math, according to the federal government's own educational I'm sorry Progress Assessment.

Yeah, but more importantly, did they have never ending pride assemblies in the proper month at school?

Speaker 2

Because that's what I like.

Yeah, you're on the right track, so Maya rts.

Speaker 3

So you might think that there wasn't much else on the minds of teachers that the latest annual gathering of the nation's largest teachers union.

Speaker 2

And it's a good point.

Speaker 3

Our nation schools are miserably failing, our government schools, I should say, miserably failing to teach kids what they need to know.

So that must be the main topic.

Are you blanking kidding me?

No, And she goes into the description of every approved business item in the agenda published by the NEEA, but one convention delegate from Texas summarized them by telling me the response she got while trying to talk to other union members about the best ways to teach reading and writing.

We don't have time for that.

We've got to fight Trump.

Her friend was told, no, somebody.

Speaker 2

Said that out loud.

Speaker 3

Yes, wow, wow, at least at the meeting, but that ex sense in the classroom.

Speaker 2

You've got to fight Trump.

I can't believe anybody said that out loud.

Speaker 3

And this is this is not folks Breitbart, this is the free press, which is, you know, very carefully nonpartisan common sense.

When I asked the NEA for comments, she writes, the union directed me toward a number of previous statements, including the convention speech by Becky Pringle, a middle school teacher.

Is now any a president?

We must use our power to take action that leads, action that liberates, action that lasts.

Speaker 2

She said.

Speaker 3

Here are some of the initiatives approved thousands of dollars to quote defend democracy against Trump's embrace of fascism by using the term fascism in which is misspelled.

Speaker 2

By the way, How great is that to you?

Speaker 3

It was the term fascism in materials to correctly characterize Donald Trump's program in actions also support foreign participation in the mass democratic movement against Trump's authoritarianism and violations of human rights.

Speaker 2

That includes support for the No King's movement.

Speaker 3

Oh, that was orth shaking well, and the Los Angeles based movement to defeat Trump's attempts to use federal forces against the state of California and other states and communities.

Speaker 2

Why are schools thinking about this stuff at all?

Speaker 3

Also opposition to immigrations and custom enforcement, kidnapping of student leaders, and support for students' rights to organize against ice raids and deportations.

Speaker 2

That's right.

Speaker 3

Main plank of the National Education Association the Teachers Union is to encourage kids to demonstrate against ice.

If I was going to be slightly charitable, I wonder if it's just a over time, you just assumed, even within sk school systems or in the teachers' unions at higher levels.

Maybe in the school you know it because you're up against it every day, but you're in the teachers unions at higher levels, you're not in the.

Speaker 2

Schools on a regular basis.

Speaker 3

You just assume the nuts and bolts part is okay.

You know it's it's cruising along teaching kids math and reading that that's fine.

We just we need to there's those other things we have the power to focus on, and you just somehow missed the boat that that core part, the learning part, yeah, had gotten overlooked or decayed or whatever.

Oh yeah, they don't care.

It's an indoctrination factory.

Another a couple of uh.

There are other resolutions that passed UH to defend students' rights to dissent and organize against Trump's policies, including attacks against ldgt Q plus students and against racism.

Speaker 2

I mean, if you're I.

Speaker 6

Just I think about ahead, if you were going to build a school today, a public if I was going to maybe other people like in the town I live in and wouldn't agree with me, But there's going to build a school today there'd be no politics in it at all.

We wouldn't be doing anything about any political issue.

Speaker 3

There'd be no assemblies, there'd be no speeches, there'd be no position papers.

There'd be nothing like first period math, second period reading, third period math again, I mean just throughout today, and then you go to vics plays, social studies, that sort of thing, learn the Constitution, and then you go home.

In response to the Supreme Court ruling allowing parents top their kids out of gender ideology and doctrination, the NEA will provide quote a sample local school board resolution that protects educators in the classroom who are teaching LGBTQ plus inclusive curriculum and content, meaning teaching your kid that radical gender theory and the genderbread person and teaching them that they can change their sexes if they want.

And indeed, you don't have to tell mommy and daddy.

I will help you.

I will tell you where to go.

That's what the NEA is concerned about.

I'm just going to touch on a few more, because this is quite the list.

Oppose any move to eliminate the US Department of Education a bunch of radical stuff.

Commitment to the twenty twenty six Federal state and local elections as a pivotal moment for our democracy training programs to address the alarming level of discrimination against and bullying of Arab American students in the public school system.

That's the whole up with the Palestinians thing, and it goes on and on and on.

The NEA is a radical leftist organization that could not give a crap about your kids.

I didn't even get to a brilliant article entitled how did California's public public education go from the best in the US to the worst?

But the short answer is, by following chapter and verse all of the things we just mentioned, the NA is promoting.

There is no more righteous cause than fighting against the left wing and doctrination factory in America's government schools.

Speaker 2

End of screed.

Speaker 3

That reminds me, I got to find a math tutor.

I'm supposed to do that earlier.

It's on my to do list.

My son going to make him do math during the summer.

That's some cruel parenting right there there.

Speaker 2

You go.

Gotta be cruel to be kind.

Speaker 3

So that a person from Texas who am Ia quoted at the beginning of the article said she wasn't surprised at all to see the approved business items that have nothing to do with basic educational principles.

Quote, it's politics, sex and gender.

When delegates get up on stage, they tell you that they're political.

These things do not just happen overnight.

People just haven't been paying attention.

Speaker 2

God, I wish should be what there aren't.

Speaker 3

I suppose you couldn't rise to the ranks where you'd get a speaking spot, but I wish should be more people get up on stage say hey, can we just talk about math and reading?

Speaker 2

Like that's it?

Never mintion Trump.

Speaker 3

I have known and we hear from lots of teachers who are horrified, outraged, and saddened by all this.

Whether y'all need to start.

Speaker 2

Your own union or form some.

Speaker 3

Sort of like you got your rebel stockholders, sometimes your activist stockholders that shake up a corporation, y'all need to somehow find a way to band together and shake up the NEA and the other big one because they are absolutely freaking anti American far left.

You know gorillas, and I think gorillas is a pretty good term because they are operating undercover indoctrinating our children.

Speaker 2

Even if it weren't the far left part if it's just not the core things your kid needs to learn that they're spending time on, that's a crime.

That's a great point.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 3

A Danish zoo is asking owners of companion and nearing LIFs in to donate them as food for captive linxes, lions, and other carnivores.

This is sounding like a pretty darn good idea.

Why haven't we thought about this in the United States?

You know what's funny is I don't know if it's intentionally or unintentionally.

Speaker 2

The subhead in the head from the New York Times.

Speaker 3

Don't make it clear whether your animal is alive in this scenario or not.

Speaker 2

Right, I was wondering about that.

But we got shelters full of cats and zoos full.

Speaker 3

Of hungry lions.

How we haven't put those two things together?

Speaker 5

Oh right, I'm not playing along with them.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well, and so my The first thing I thought, in looking this article over and skimming it real quickly, was, man, this is a because they make it.

Speaker 2

Clear that.

Speaker 3

These animals would be gently euthanized by trained employees used for food by the zoos, predators like.

Speaker 2

The europe pe In links, lions and tigers, et cetera.

Speaker 3

Yeah, even I don't want to feel alive, straight kitten who is going to be euthanized at the shelter?

Speaker 2

So long?

Rewiring?

Speaker 3

But uh, why not, you know, give a knock it out a little bit and then give it to the line.

All right, well it'll be euthanized, it'll be dead the circle of life.

Speaker 2

It won't be asleep, it'll be dead.

But anyway, so enough, knock it out a little bit.

You know, I won't really know what's going on, right, give it a xanax.

It'll be fine.

Yeah, give it a half a ben a drill and put it in the lion cage.

Speaker 3

So I've got to admit I was thinking, as I often do, as the the dedicated realist, that all right, this is a pretty good dividing line that makes perfect sense to me.

Speaker 2

Of course it does.

You have these animals in the zoo.

Speaker 3

People love them, they admire them, they learn about conservation, blah blah blah.

The animals are eating meat, obviously, they're feeding them their natural diet, and as the zeo says, this way nothing goes to waste, and we ensure natural behavior, nutrition and well being for our predators because it mimics the natural food chain by feeding whole prey to its predators.

So it is absolutely biologically zoologically not only defensible, it's ideal.

Speaker 2

I'll have to do.

Speaker 3

I thought, here's a great dividing line.

Can you handle that or not?

Do you understand that your pet, when it's gone, it's gone, and you'll be doing a good thing.

And then I thought about my dog, and by bye.

Speaker 2

It is harder when you think about your own dog.

I can still do it.

Speaker 3

I'll I'll have to ask Henry if he'd be okay if Pugsito got eaten by a lion?

Speaker 2

Oh my, do you dare ask him that?

Not prior to the age.

It's twenty thirty and he'll be one years old.

Speaker 3

He'll be on a therapist's couch and say, I remember it today, Gladys, he'll say, and Gladys will play the harp and he'll.

Speaker 2

Say, I was thirteen years old and my dad came in and said, would it be okay if we Pugsito to a lion?

Speaker 3

Your beloved dog companion?

Good Lord, be lucky if he doesn't take you out anyway.

You know what, My only problem is do I get to beat Maybe they explain that in the late going in this article, I was.

Speaker 2

So intrigued by the ethnic Yes, you just finish reading it.

You're just not throwing the dog in there?

Run run run.

You know it's not like that.

Speaker 3

Well right, And I don't want to make everybody sad, but certainly the you know, as we've had to do in the past, I will be there at the end, and I don't need a zoo keeper to do it.

Speaker 2

Backstage of the lion exhibit, now we have Katie's a dog owner.

What's your opinion?

This whole conversation is just not could you feed that?

What's that little white fluffy dog you got?

Frank?

Now, if I could not, I could not.

I could not feed you stand the diet of the great apes.

But what's that little white fluffy thing you have?

Speaker 3

The post linked to the zoo's website describes the process for donating horses as food.

Speaker 5

Now do they take it alive and then they euthanize it?

Speaker 2

Because I could not handle see that.

So you're still handing over a live animal?

Yes to the zoo?

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think this is now They also accept chickens.

Speaker 2

And your dogs and gigs.

You're talking a quick question.

Why are we at the zoo?

And where am I going?

And why are you not coming with me?

Speaker 3

Oh lord, no, no, I can't even contemplate.

Speaker 2

It's too dark, it's too terrible.

But notice we're at the zoo.

So they mentioned the we've never been to the zoo before.

Speaker 3

The horse will be delivered alive to the zoo where it will be euthanized by a zoo keeper and a veterinarian and then slaughtered the zoo's website.

Speaker 2

Or so they tell you.

Right now, here's where it gets weird.

Speaker 3

The zoo also accepts chickens, rabbits, and guinea pigs during weekdays between ten am and one pm, but no more than four at a time.

Speaker 2

Oh okay, jeez, I have six.

I'll have to go two days in a row.

Oh my god.

Speaker 3

And your lower form of beasts that don't know what from what I feel this, for instance, I feel different about them than I do about like, say, a.

Speaker 2

Very bright dog.

I don't know.

I don't think this is going to catch on a lot.

Speaker 5

I don't like the idea of handing them over alive.

I feel like, I don't know, they need to euthanize them like there, I don't know how that would work.

Speaker 3

Out rough rough So when we got in the car, I thought, perhaps where we were added to a church or a hospital.

Speaker 2

This, for he's sake, stop with that

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