It looks so pretty, So do you thank you?

I just came from the gym.

This is a very very weird timely situation that I'll explain.

But I literally just came from the gym here.

But I haven't gone to a gym except for like maybe like one time occasionally in.

Thirty years, I mean literally thirty years.

What do you do for working out or what do you do to include movement in your erae?

So this is Sonata and you are a trainer fitness expert, and we're going to get into a conversation.

I just yes.

What I usually do is it's such an interesting question.

I walk.

That's all I do.

I walk on the beach or I walk on the street, and I don't do it all the time, and I always come back to it.

There are periods when I'll do yoga a lot.

I haven't.

I'm not in that period right now that I've been doing yoga for easily thirty years.

So it's the type of thing that I might do three four days in a row and then not do for a while.

And that's kind of how I do everything.

Like if I go somewhere, I'll go snowboarding every day and then I will take a month off sometimes if I'm exhausted and I'm just sleeping.

I always prioritize sleep.

So my people always think that I work out all the time because of Sports Illustrated and because I'm in I look like I'm in good shape.

Good I know, And I had a debate with Tracy Anderson years ago about it, and then people are like, it's only genetics.

But years ago, I was like twenty five pounds heavier and was always always on a quote unquote diet and working out.

So like, I think this is an interesting conversation that we should have.

Anyway, because my doctor did my testing and he was like, you have very low body fat and also a lot of muscle mass, and I'm like, how the fuck.

So anyway, today is the day because I was out at a football game and Lauren Sanchez was like, you need to be doing weights for your bone density and because at six days it's gonna be harder to catch up.

And so today is the first day I went to a trainer.

I just amazing, amazing, So I'm.

Glad I'm talking to you.

It's so weird that like awesome, this is so okay.

So you are you started out as a personal trainer or what's your background.

Oh, it's more than that.

But I'm glad that you started strength training because you know, maybe I don't know if your doctor let any any tests when it comes to your like your bone density and how that is, because it's more than just muscle mass.

Like sure, the muscle mass could be their relative to your body weight and relative to your body fed percentage and all of that, but when you look at like the whole picture, like your muscle mass and your bone density and where is that, and you might be good, but.

I'm gonna get getting the bone density test.

I don't know if I did that.

And your Albanian.

I am Albanian born, you are okay.

So I have worked with so many different Albanians that I like feel like I am Albanian.

I love.

It's ridiculous to make a blanket statement about people from a country, but from my perspective, I live for Albanians.

It's just like a tough, loyal, hardworking, not sensitive group of people.

From what I've met, from the people that I've worked with, it's like badass and not, like I said, maybe slightly sensitive but not really but like I know, fun and funny, but there's like a V.

I don't know.

I just worked.

I've had amazing experiences working with Albanians from so many different industries.

I love that.

I actually was talking to my sisters and my mom.

My mom was like, yeah, that then he loves Albanians.

She said that, yeah she did, she did.

But yes, I was born in Albania and I started, you know, because again Albanians and people that are not in such advanced countries always value education.

So education was I was pushed into excelling in education and I got my MBA.

In three years, I graduated suna cum laude, you know, highest honors.

I started in the financial industry.

I was a senior analyst for a while.

It was just and then I went into pharmaceuticals and I just wasn't happy into sales and it wasn't my calling, so to speak.

I had gone through growing up, going through my teenage years, I'd gone through anorexia and I came with a depression and anxiety and probably some of it, you know, who knows, genetic, but a lot of it, I think coming into a new country, with being bullied a little bit for being different and not speaking the language perfectly.

So I think that all where did you stay in New York?

I'm stay in New York, Okay.

So it's part of shock, you know, going from like a small town and albeing network you walk everywhere, to now being upstate New York where you couldn't you know as a kid, fifteen year old kid.

It's very secluded.

Secluded exactly.

So when I when we first visited the Bronx, I was like, I want to move to the Bronx.

This is amazing.

You know, there's people everywhere, there's walkability.

But anyway, so getting into fitness, strength training and working out helped me overcome some of those issues, specifically strength training, because I was working out when I was dealing with my issues, but it was working out to stay skinny and to stay then to fit in basically.

But when I did step into strength training and saw what my body now could do and saw that I could, instead of lacking the nourishment to shrink it now nourishing to actually gain muscle and gain strength, So that that personally helped me so much in my journey, so that I decided to share what I knew and what I did with anybody that would have me.

I started to share all of it, and you know, people.

Found where we Where were you living at this time?

At this time when I started sharing on social media, all of my workouts were in Washington, d C.

I've moved in different places, and this was only in twenty nineteen.

So you were living in You started social media in twenty nineteen sharing your workout in DC and you were at a gym, you were working for private clients or so.

I was working actually in diagnostics, diagnostics sales.

I'd moved away from like the financial analysts, and so doing the diagnostics aspect of it as a primary job and then doing like classes.

It started New York actually, when I was doing some group classes as like just something fun to do after work, nothing as inside inside a hustle, exactly a passion which I was truly passionate about.

I had gone also got my certifications, went to India.

I got my yoga teacher training certification.

So I was doing a little bit of both strength training and yoga.

And then in DC I decided that, you know, I just couldn't do it anymore.

Leading kind of like this double life of doing the corporate world and what I was ill.

It was all crush crushing, but I knew that I couldn't just quit everything, so I decided to start posting what I found helpful, Like every day in the morning, I'll wake up at five in the morning, get my workout was done, film, and then go to my day job post do all of the things that needed to be done.

And because I was so consistent and so I didn't ask for anything in return, I just provided a lot of useful information, useful workouts that people just could go to my page and get all of what they needed.

And did that for a while, and then that shifted into okay, now I'd like to put this into programs for people.

And that was during COVID.

We had filmed everything in the gym before that, and then COVID had and we're like, okay, we have to transition.

Now.

It was we built h we started to build a program.

I start.

I partnered with a company that kind of had the technology to do that, and you know, I had everything else.

I had a social media presence at the knowledge.

So we put programs together to satisfy the needs of people now working out at home.

And also that correlated to making all social media posts about working out at home.

And I think there was another huge uptake in following because everybody now was like looking for something to do, and especially trying not to go crazy during those times and stay active perhaps and find some sort of release.

And you were still in DC at that time.

I was still in DC at that time still.

And it's funny because Hodah, I don't know if you know.

Hoda copy from the Today Show.

She wrote in her book and quoted me about my perspective on the side hustle.

How I've always told people to you can't obviously leave your your retirement fund and your four one K, but you could start slowly, like doing the thing you love slowly, and then increase it and then hopefully you'll start making money and then you can abandon the original thing.

And that seems like what you did.

So when did you abandon your day job?

Once I saw that the program started to gain traction and we had a really great number of sign ups, this started as like an online program.

I hadn't had an I didn't have an app yet now we have an app.

So once I saw that that just took off, I called my job.

It was like, this is it?

I was in April of twenty twenty.

Yeah, April of twenty twenty, so.

That was pre that was pre pandemic, right, or that.

It was twenty twenty, okay?

And do you feel because there were many parts about my life that the pandemic saved, even though that's not a popular thing to say because obviously a lot of people died and got sick and it was a challenging time.

But for me, there were some things that really were life changing from a personal perspective with this divorce I was going through, from the social media and me just playing around, Like you feel like the pandemic changed your life.

From a business perspective, I think it would have.

It would have happened anyway.

Maybe I propelled it a little bit because now you know, again when everybody's just isolated and stayed indoors and couldn't go to the gym, now they could just follow me on Instagram and do their workouts from home.

Because I utilize how the slide sliders, you know, it's use water bottles, it's like little weights that anything that was like super creative and that gained a lot of traction.

So sure did I get a boost from that, But I think my trajectory was on the okay, on the upward, and I started the plans of introducing programs before COVID hit, so it would have gone there.

Just that kind of propelled so's.

Yeah.

But yeah, as it was awful.

My dad spent five weeks on his stomach almost like escaped intubation by by the skin of his teeth.

Yeah.

Yeah, so I know firsthand like the impact that it did have on people.

But like you said, for some people it did have.

It was a shift.

It to go down in history is like the Industrial Revolution, like it changed the world in way is crazy.

I mean so many people found like they're leaned into their passions during that time.

I think so many people there's yes, exactly developed those passions and they understood that now you don't have to go to the office every single day to be productive.

Now.

No, it's crazy that I lean I mean I have an entire staff.

It doesn't even live here.

When I'm in Florida And where are you now?

Where do you live?

Yeah, I'm the same.

I am right now Santa Monica and by coastal so I'll go to Miami and New York a lot, but a lot of my team is in Florida, and we have people in the UK.

And but you have homes in LA and where else?

Miami?

Oh you are, I'm in my Oh, okay, where you are?

Okay?

Great, I'm in Miami too.

Yeah, And so how much?

What percentage of time are you in LA and my and Miami.

It's fluctuated, but I try to keep a balance of both.

It's I guess it's wherever.

I'm kind of also needed.

I'm always traveling.

So you're training, yeah, and your app is called we Rise, So that's the business and you put into that.

But like your your training celebrities or getting people ready for movies?

What's your like?

Yeah, right now I'm training Kim Kardashian.

That's one of the reasons why I've spent so much time in LA.

She's the reason why I kind of moved to this area.

But I know, I love it.

I love the community here.

I just love the pace of life is just a little bit different than East Coast, but I appreciate both, you know, having spent most of my life on the East Coast.

And so you know, Kim Kardashian is a beautiful woman who has a good start in being in shape and seems like she's always been conscientious about.

Health and her body.

What's the connection, Like, what's the strategy, Like, as a woman who today went to the gym for the first time and I'm turning fifty five on Tuesday, what is your strategy when you're dealing with women?

And how long are you suggesting or training and like what's realistic and accessible?

Because for me, I went today which included ten minutes of stretching for forty minutes only because for me, I don't want to do something.

I want to do it so I like it, so you could and this is sort of my reasoning.

I think this is one of the reasons I think I'm in shape because I don't ever go back in the nineties, I was going to Barry's boot camp and doing the crazy spinning and all the stuff, and I'd be like, then I would be like, do it, do it?

Do it?

Am starving, and then every day I'm starving, and then I'm doing it, doing it, do it, and then I like fall off because it's too much.

And for me personally, I want it to be something that I want to do.

So if I go there for an hour and twenty minutes, I'll hate him, I'll hate myself.

I don't want to do it.

So today he was like, what do you want to start out with?

I'm like, I just want to I walk today on my own, but I just want to start out with doing reasonable weights and alignment or whatever's healthy.

But I want to start at thirty minutes and then yes, we could do ten minutes stretch.

We could go to forty minutes next month, next week, I go to two hours and three months, I don't know, but I want to come back to it and not hate it.

So that's my and I think people are too extreme and like January twod I'm starting It's Barry's boot camp or this fear based thing and I'm going to go crazy.

It's Tracy Anderson, which is like insane, and for me, you do it, but then after I'm like, that's too much for me.

So what do you think about all this?

My approach is what is sustainable?

What is exactly what you said?

I don't go in with this is what you need to do, and you can viewer off from the program.

You start with what can you dedicate to yourself?

I think this is you dedicating time to you and your well being, your future well being.

What can you dedicate to you every single day or you know, or you know, three to five days a week, whatever feels accessible.

So it's not so much as you going all out for two hours more so than the consistency of doing over time actually one.

And it's also incorporating the elements that bring you joy.

You know, working out shouldn't be grinding your teeth and you know, hating it, hitting showing up every single day.

It should include elements of enjoyment.

And that's why when I build my programs, while squats and dead lives and pull ups, like the foundation is great, most people are not going to stick to just the foundational movements, So I incorporate the foundational movements in a way that is fun.

So one day I'll include squats with dumbbells, another day will be front squats with cables.

So keeping those movements that are important and functionality and as a foundation, but also making them interesting a novel because one of our intrinsic needs is novelty.

And incorporating that aspect of novelty I found that keeps people very, that keeps people on on the wea rise app.

I mean that there's so many people that just say that that they've tried so many apps, and this is like the one app that has stuck because it does provide that that ability to not only fit in your schedule, but yes, but make it enjoyable as well.

Well, I'm going to look at that because that, to me, that is I think that that is the most critical thing.

And it's funny because I was talking about it today to this trainer.

I was saying, I don't like bickram yoga because I don't want to know what's coming, and I don't want twenty six ashtanga too like every day that for me personally is shackling.

I want forty minutes of like I don't know what's coming and let me just enjoy it and explore.

So I'm not like in my head about weight now.

We still have twenty two more to go.

So I feel like there is people when someone's once said to me, I don't like yoga.

I tried it once.

I'm like, what type of yoga it's like?

Is it a Rougola, is it Romaine?

Was it masculine?

What?

You know what I mean?

Like you could So I feel like everybody could like exercise if they find what works for them, and that's what I'm trying to do.

And as it pertains to the weights, because I don't want to do the weights, and because i think I'm in good shape, so I'm not trying to mess around, but I want to think about age.

Yes, of course, I think a lot of people have just such a misconception of like strength training and lifting weights and you know, becoming like a super bulky person, you know, like becoming not feminine or whatever the misconception might be.

And once you kind of introduce people to working out the right way if you will, or an enjoyable way or something that works for their schedule, then it's you see a light bulb like going off.

They suddenly find like enjoyment in it and they've once you kind of also step into that strength, it just gives you a feeling that not a lot of other things can give you.

You know, you can get or like a runner high, or you can get you know, I have moments in yoga where I feel powerful, but there is like a different different type of yeah.

Such a little badass feeling.

Sure yeah yeah, sure, are you married?

I'm not, but I've been with my long term partner for a while.

Yeah, okay, And do you how much do you work out with your partner and how much do you think that's important?

Like are you not I'm not that person?

Are you that person?

We will sometimes tangently work out with each other.

I'm kind of more of a face based person and he likes to kind of take a little bit longer pauses between sets, and that's completely fine.

But we'll do certain exercises together and then he'll do his thing, and so we kind of mix it up.

We mix it up for sure.

Plus we spend almost twenty four to seven with each other.

So I think giving yourselves a little bit of me time, which sometimes for me, like me time is working out and just focusing on that.

But then I love work together.

Well yeah, well we are.

We work from home most of the time.

But you don't work together.

He works on this, he does work on this on the he's part of the app, so he does help.

For sure, he's part of it.

But he has a day job as well.

He's in the wealth management and CPA world.

And if you had to say that if a woman had fifteen minutes three times a week, and that's all they had, which I believe, I do believe in.

I believe in everything counts, and you do exactly what you can when you can for the same reasons you don't want to be defeated, like get into twenty minutes and people like it has to be thirty minutes.

And like I said, Tracy Anderson was on my talk show and she was like, you need to be working at six days a week.

I'm like, that's not happening.

Like it's not happening.

We could throw down, like it's not happening.

And most moms who are to have taken care of multiple kids and pick up and drop off and jobs and can be you know, trying to get out the door feeling and looking decent, don't either.

So what's the realistic If somebody only had fifteen minutes three times a week, what would you tell them to do?

Honestly, the start with the six day a week.

While you know I somebody going my app can do is a six day program.

I have three day programs as well, because again, you cannot expect everybody to fit into that six day program routine.

I think you're you're setting them up for failure.

Most of the time because again most and I do have I think a lot of my audience, if not most of my audience, is that group age where they have, you know, a kid or two or three and they're working, you know, so it's it's almost unrealistic.

And once you set up somebody for failure, then they're not going to want to come back again.

Well that's here, they won't even start because if they don't it doesn't matter, then it doesn't matter.

But it matters.

It's the effort.

We are wired as human to think about the effort versus the outcome.

So now if that effort seems gigantic, then we're more like not even going to start, or just do it once and then never go back.

So we have the same feeling absolutely so doing it in little chunks and making those those efforts feel like you're getting a reward right away.

So that is what makes it more consistent working out.

So I even say, you know, you don't even have to start with fifteen, start with five, Start with this like what's called now exercise.

Next, do that for you know, a week or two weeks, and then start increasing it once it feels more accessible to then fifteen minutes a week and do that for a while.

The consistency is so much more important than being perfect or doing it every so often for an hour to two hours.

You just described why I believe I'm in good shape and everyone asks me do I work out all the time?

And I work out none of the time.

And I think it's because of what you're saying that, because this is what I've been trying to This is the thing that people don't do.

Everyone's so extreme and now we have to be Keto and Macro and this and that.

Like it's like everyone.

Overworks themselves into a froth and like it's the same thing that you burn out.

Well you burn out, you go it's it's not good for your body to binge and purge, binge exercise.

And then it's too drastic, And I just think everyone's so drastic with everything.

And it's skincare too, What are you using?

What do you It's like not one product, it's called over the course of time.

You're not sleeping with your makeup on, you're cleansing your face, well, you're masking.

Like it's the same thing.

It's the foundation.

Yeah, like you said, the foundation, Like take your makeup off, apply like apply a moisturizer at the very least, you know, every night and every morning.

But do that every day, you know, versus now trying to reach for leg that magic pill the one solution.

That's the same thing with working out, Like there's there's nothing that's going to give you the results like right away.

Besides again, like the consistency yes of day, you know, day in and day out.

But if you if you're to have me in those fifteen minutes, what you can do, perhaps start with something that you enjoy.

That's it.

Just start with something that you enjoy.

So if walking is it, Walking is the thing that's going to keep you consistent, start there.

Now, if we're talking about like ideally what you'd want so that you can combat aging and you can combat you know, the disease states that come with aging, then you'd want include strength training.

Just the other day and I've op posted this yet I didn't.

What can you do it five minutes?

You can do squats, you can do reverse lunches, you can do glute bridges, push ups, orne push ups or planks, and the fifth one being superman so you're like on belly on the ground lifting up both arms and likes the Superman.

So do those for forty five seconds.

It's fifteen seconds off boom.

Five minute workout.

Body weight or weighted ideally weighted with some weight, but again start with the accessible point now for fifteen minutes.

Repeat those three times over.

You've got three rounds of just an amazing workout fifteen minutes.

Is body weight weight?

Body weight?

Is your own utilizing your own weight?

No?

But is it waits?

Is it like if you're doing yoga and you're doing a plank, is that doing weights?

It's not doing weights.

Weights is actually utilizing a dumbbell of cattle bell.

But is it doing weights for your body?

Like is your body building muscle mass?

Or you're doing yoga and you're doing a plank egg.

If done in specific ways, you can't build muscle.

Is just a lot more challenging to build muscle with just body weight.

Again, if you're doing just body weight, perhaps doing like single leg exercises is more beneficial versus if you're doing something that you're utilizing both limbs.

Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out why I have muscles because it's a mystery.

So it was like literally because it might be yogas for years and walking and I don't know what could it be.

Because you are consistent with your being active and you're not just sitting around.

The other problem, now that there is such a huge problem with being active enough just being seditary.

Most adults are seditary.

And if you look at the blue zones, which are areas in the world that produce over and over centenarians, basically people that live past one hundred or over, they're not necessarily doing They're not working out, they're not doing strength training, they're not doing these things.

But what they're doing is that they're staying active all of the time.

They're gardening, they are taking care of their families.

I never said I'm running.

I do more steps in someone just sitting in my house.

Okay, all right, so then that's what it is.

Yeah, So for them, it's one is that they're active.

Two, there might be somewhat of a genetic component that they live to one hundred or more.

So, now, how can we in today's world emulate that without having that genetic positive genetic predisposition.

Now we have to do the things that we know scientifically work, like strength training and working out and supplementing our nutrition, which is.

Well you food.

I think the food is most of it.

It's key.

There's so much that's being stripped from our food that we need to be so conscious about the foods that we're eating, like the whole foods that we're eating, about the amount of protein that we're eating.

And I think you do a great job of eating protein, which I think attributes to your ability to have I.

Do, but I'm not fixated on everybody's obsessed with that now too, And I think it's ridiculous now because I'm I'm how old you are?

You in your thirties forties?

I think that as a compliment in my face.

How old do you do?

You do you mind telling me I'm.

Over for you?

Let's say that I never, you know, I do sometimes don't remember my own age because I have programmed myself to not think about age, because I think we condition ourselves to operate in our age group if we're constantly telling ourselves, you know, A yeah.

But age is a place that you like think about people around you and your body and cycles and the reason I as I've been through the acin diet, the South Beach diet, the scars deeal diet that this diet people chuck it.

So every day it's a new thing.

And then I've been through eggs being bad for you.

No one ate avocado, coconut oil has been I've been through all of it.

So I do take it with a grain of salt.

And the protein fixation is insane, like, yes, have protein, but we don't have to be mainlining.

And people are putting like turkey and toap of cotta cheese on top of eggs.

It's like, take a fucking break with the protein powder.

And I don't buy it all.

I think it's bullshit.

But that's just I mean, there's there's Honestly, there is a place and a time for everything.

I think short nutritions start with nutrition first.

But if you're there's so many people that are unable to include all of the nutrients that we need, especially protein, you'd be surprised, you know, in working with people closely, like how much of a hard time they have in even meeting minimal requirements of you know, like two eggs a day is not going to cut it.

Two eggs at breakfast is not going to cut it, believe it or not.

So you know, sure it is a craze, but you need to kind of balance it with where the proper nutrition is and with again not obsessing over it.

And where are you on ozempic?

Ozempic bodies on fat, skinny body, skinny fat, but you know what I mean, someone's thin, but the flabby, like what are you seeing as a result of ozempic.

Let's put it that way.

I think ozmp it really did dis favor the people, not especially in the terms of people overdosing on it, so to speak, and then losing all of this muscle mass that is so critical for somebody's health.

You know, I can't speak to all of the things that that can create, but I think being utilized in an inappropriate ways is inappropriate.

Being utilized in ways that it's indicated for, or it could help somebody's health and longevity, like that is a good place for it.

But again if used in a way that doesn't take away from other aspects of health, like losing muscle mass, because it does.

When you are losing weight that fast, you're losing muscle mass as well, so which is critical.

Like as I always say, muscle mass is muscle is the form of currency.

It's an insurance for long term health and longevity.

Amazing, awesome, Wow, it's so nice to talk to you, very very thank you.

So, you know, like I touched upon before, when it comes to supplementation, like there is also a pandemic of like not supplementing correct or not having like the necessary micronutrients.

Like we talk about like macronutrients like protein and carbs and fats, but where the micronutrients which are lacking in our nutrition nowadays.

What's a micronutrient?

So it's all of the vitamins and minerals, you know, it's all of the things that Yeah, And so there is where I do believe in actually like supplementing properly, and I do like have new used to share if you will, I w I'm working and joined as a co founder a company called Ionick, which will change the way that we approach nutrition.

It's the next generation functional nutrition company, so approaches nurturing our bodies when it comes to like the vitamins and the minerals and the micronutrients in a way that is truly scientific, scientifically based, evidence based, and that hasn't really impact because I think a lot of people have been jaded by supplement companies and nutrition companies because of the things that they promise and yet that they don't deliver.

So they'll have like you know what we call pixel dusting of like greens and probiotics and prebiotics and post biotics and which a lot of the time, if you just have a little sprinkle is not going to have much of an impact.

Well, that's.

Exactly exactly.

I'm very confused.

I get sent everything, so I've got I got in here.

I just told my doctor because I have this great new concierge doctor.

It's been doing all the tests.

I took a picture of everything.

I'm like, it's everything from niagen to glue to thigh on to the longevity mushrooms, to the vinumin c to the colostrum to the fire I'm like, what the fuck?

Like what do we probiotic pre bio like, I'm like.

And everything comes in like a thousand different bottles, right, It's.

And it's very overwhelming and very overwhelming.

So this is the thing that with Ionic we're changing, is that we're aiming to replace all of the supplements in your cabinet with just one really essential nutrition supplement that is so easy to take.

It's actually beautiful.

It comes, I can grab it.

It's like in a little bottle with a compartment on top of it has the pills and a little chaser, so that yeah.

It also, yeah, it helps with absorption, and it does have all of the ingredients in the right amounts to do what they're supposed to do, you know, not just marketing, but like but truly effective.

I'm I'm excited you're the first one.

Yeah, I'm excited.

I'd love to try.

Yeah, I have one company I worked with.

I've literally changed their business because a lot of people take this now because for me, the same thing.

It has to be accessible, it has to be easy.

And I'm actually when I leave this call, going to go in the kitchen now and look at my supplements and maybe like make a little something.

I've got to be more diligent about it, but I'm trying my very best.

We're going to send you some and you should try it.

It's it's I love it.

And also when you're in Florida, let my team know.

Maybe I'll come like train with you somewhere, just like for only like forty minutes.

Of course, I'm gonna give you access to the Rerise app.

I won't have your email address.

I'll get your email address because i'd love to hear your thoughts about it.

And yes, and I'm sure you'll love it.

I'm sure I love it.

I can give you a good opinion because I it has to be not overwhelming, and.

I know you will.

I know you'll be honest.

Yes, yes, I will.

So I'm excited.

Well, amazing, it's just so good.

The timing was ridiculous.

Walk from the gym, like am I I don't even wear workout wearing work at so stupid.

So so nice to meet you, my fellow.

I love.

It'll be in Miami for Art Basils, so maybe I will know if you're going to be there.

I will awesome.

We might have a couple of events there, so I might let you know.

Awesome.

We'll have a great thank you son, satting with you to