[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pleasure to have you here.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're my brother, Joe.

[SPEAKER_00]: Joey Badass, man, legendary rapper, actor, you're a Renaissance man, but more importantly, I like the role that you're playing now as far as a father, as far as, you know, in the relationship with your woman open, like I just feel like you are sending a great example of masculinity and 2025, because it's a lot of other things that's, [SPEAKER_00]: put out there in the media, but what you're doing as far as how you're handling yourself is very reminiscent of a of an era that's familiar to me as far as being a little older than you.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like you kind of like a old soul.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I appreciate the way that you carry yourself for as a formals.

[SPEAKER_02]: appreciate that, man, appreciate it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man, I, you know, I'm more for the collective.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that one of the main things that we need to be doing as a people is getting right with each other and we got a, you know, the relationship, the family aspect is a lot of healing that got to be done in that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I kind of keep that.

[SPEAKER_02]: in my sights, and I take my relationship with my woman very seriously, but you know, deeper even beyond us, like I look at us as if we have the opportunity to course correct.

[SPEAKER_02]: We have the opportunity to stand on this platform, and [SPEAKER_02]: almost being an example, you know, to our community of what we can be and what we should be.

[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, no pressure, no pressure on anybody.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's definitely not easy.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you.

[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm actually not easy, I want to make it seem like it's easy even being in that container with someone, because you know, it comes with its challenges for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I want to start with family, [SPEAKER_00]: So as a young man, you got a family, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like talk about that, like talk about to you, the importance of having that family and some of the trials and tribulations and how you're actually growing and learning how to become a family man.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've always been family oriented, you know, just from when I was a kid, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: barbecue's in all that like at my great grandmother's house and I'm you know I was I was grateful enough to be born into a big family.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because I remember when I you know I got to like middle school and and I started really connecting with my friends and you know going by their homes and stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was like oh snap like everybody ain't got a big family.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know and I started realizing how [SPEAKER_02]: valuable that was to be able to grow up in a community that was so close to net and, you know, people looking out for each other.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's just something that I definitely inherited from my childhood.

[SPEAKER_02]: However, there's a lot of things that I did not see.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like I didn't [SPEAKER_02]: I've never been to, I've probably been to like two weddings in my life.

[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see any real examples of affection and love growing up.

[SPEAKER_02]: So even though there was family, even though there was like community, I didn't really see relationships being developed and um, [SPEAKER_02]: You know, cultivate it like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something that I took with me into my adulthood.

[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that's something that I try to create for myself and for the following generations that's coming after me.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you know, my fiance and I, it's funny because just last night, [SPEAKER_02]: we we like to have meetings with each other because we almost acknowledge the fact that part of being in this relationship with each other or part of being in this container with each other and part of cultivating a future with children and [SPEAKER_02]: goals and stuff like that is you coming out of a approach from a business mind to standpoint so you know we had one of our meetings you know I mean like usually we get like a we work off it's something like that and we meet and then we put the goals on on the board and you know I'm saying we we we really playing it out what's the long term what's the short term what's the what's the now you know I'm saying what we're going to grab off the short [SPEAKER_02]: 36 next part of me 12 weeks, you know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just kind of like creating what we feel, we should have seen, becoming that, becoming the change that that we want to see.

[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, man, you know, it's so dope because you know, we've been as like, you know, I'm [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, this is the type of future that we want to build, not only for ourselves, but for our children, where they can grow up being like, oh, you know, mom and dad in the meeting room, again, there's a meeting in the minds again, and they part of it, you know, they part of it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is what we're going to do.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is where we headed, and I think that's why a lot of relationships today.

[SPEAKER_02]: are so doomed or they failed because you got two people who really don't come together in a line with any type of gold, directional, even business plan.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you got two people essentially just floating in space and not, you know, it was just quite a rather long time ago, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, I can't even necessarily remember it, but the analogy is pretty much like you [SPEAKER_02]: just as small as the greed of you turning one degree this way one degree in this direction or you know you turning the cell that direction you end up somewhere you never even planned on going you know I mean negatively you know what I'm saying so it's all about mapping it out and you know because some people are passengers on their own plane [SPEAKER_02]: their passengers on their own ship, if you will, you know, like some people don't even realize that they could get into the cockpit or they could get into the captain's seat and instead the whole thing what they want to go.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we apply that a lot and we make sure that we get super accountable on what this is and what we create and then what we ultimately want to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: How do you pick a person that's an alignment for you and can you talk to us about some of the challenges that you guys face and how you work through them?

[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a great question.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's a series of like, what I call it.

[SPEAKER_02]: almost like like a disadvantage process.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think everybody is different.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's all about you have to know personally what your value systems are.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what the you value, what's the most important to you.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I devised people to approach it like like a business.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you're gonna sign a contract with somebody, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have non-negotiables.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and you got to stand firm on what those things are.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think again, a lot of people jumping to these contracts or they jump to these situations, not even understanding what they terms are.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then now you get into this situation.

[SPEAKER_02]: And now you want to try to change terms.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: But you already got the other party used to, nah, like this, this is what it is.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is what we came into.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is what I expect now.

[SPEAKER_02]: communication of course is key, you know, you got to, you got to speak up for yourself.

[SPEAKER_02]: You got to, like I said, you got to stay with your terms, all you got to, you got to, you got to draw the line and you got to align most importantly, you know, you got to be with a, [SPEAKER_02]: with a candidate that you feel like you're gonna do business with, you know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and I hate to make it so, I hate for it to seem like a transactional thing because it's really not, but I do think that the business mindset does align with it because you got to think about it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, listen, we could form a love, we could be in love, but at some point, [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to actually tell the real questions like, so what's your, like, like, how do you save money?

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what's your money spending look like?

[SPEAKER_02]: What's your money habits look like?

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's figure that out at the top.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's let's let's change the direction of where we're going, like I like to, [SPEAKER_02]: I like to turn the fact, like, let's get right to it, you know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not trying to waste my time, especially, you know, me being so intentional with what it is that I know that I want to do, like I ain't just trying to, I ain't just trying to play around.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, we're going off for the long term, then we got to ask long term questions.

[SPEAKER_02]: We got to have that long term vision, make sure that it lasts.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I ain't going to wait, I ain't waiting six months to ask what you, what you [SPEAKER_02]: Will we, you trying to be, you know what I'm saying or, you know, just ask the important questions that a lot of people don't think about it.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it really hits your face, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: So your, your fiance, how you, you, you act those questions right away?

[SPEAKER_00]: We're her.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, listen.

[SPEAKER_02]: I sure did, I sure did, you know, you're right, too.

[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of tough questions at the time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, and it's, it's funny because a [SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't used to that, you know, she wasn't used to be challenged in that type of way, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, and, and, you know, she's, it's been so much progress for both of us, but yeah, you know, I had to begin in there almost be like, what do you ask me these questions for?

[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, girl, because I'm serious.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just trying to, I ain't trying to play around like, you think this is the game, like, I'm serious like, what, what do you value?

[SPEAKER_02]: What do you like you know I'm saying like just getting really really real I don't got no time to play I ain't joking