Mister bo Kelly here later with mo Kelly KFI AM six forty one live on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app.

And you've probably been following what has been going on at Burbank Airport being without air traffic controllers for some number of hours.

At this point, it's not sure what's going to happen to rectify that.

There have been a number of flights which have been delayed and canceled.

I know that Mark Runner Good Evening, Mark Ronner and the KFI twenty four hour News one will have updates over the course of the evening if that situation should change.

But I do remember, I do remember I was giving some common momentary on Spectrum News, and I relayed that commentary here on this show, saying that the government shut down, although it may be some twenty five hundred miles away in Washington, d C.

As far as the ongoing debate here in California, you're going to feel it.

I even posted the video.

I said that you know, there would be various levels of how you may feel it.

I also said that you probably see fewer TSA agents, maybe fewer air traffic controllers.

And now here we are, and I got to say, after getting back from Miami over the weekend, I'm glad that I'm now down on the ground and not planning to fly anywhere anytime soon for just these reasons.

And I was just taking this is not a scientific survey, but I was just taking a survey of the different comments on social media for whatever they're worth, thinking how people are viewing this.

Some and I was actually looking at the KFI account on instau specifically, so you know where I'm pulling this from.

And some were saying, well, if they can fly planes without air traffic controllers at burd Bank, then what purpose do they serve?

I don't know what to say the bat, but that was a common refrain that I saw time and time again, not understanding the importance of air traffic controllers not only helping flights take off in land, but just maneuver around the airport.

Have you seen how flights are coordinated just to get on the runway for takeoff, that's all air traffic controllers.

Do you think that they just fly blindly by the seat of their pants and not exactly knowing where other air traffic is.

That's what I call it air traffic controllers.

So they have an idea what the traffic is.

And nobody, and I hope nobody, wants there to be a disaster during this government shutdown, which is or even is not connected to the loss of air traffic controllers or even on the smallest level.

I would never want.

Anyone to be in danger or lose their life because of this government shutdown or things connected to it.

But let's be clear, Fewer air traffic controllers makes a more dangerous sky.

Fewer air traffic controllers increases the likelihood that something horrible is going to happen.

Just because something doesn't happen or may not have happened as of yet, doesn't make it any less dangerous.

And we're going to have to find out the hard way, it seems.

And we can go back and forth about and I said this before, about whose fault or responsibility the shutdown is.

It's neither here nor there for me.

All I know is you are going to feel it.

Some of you may have already begun to feel it.

If you are a veteran, you're going to feel it.

If you are a federal employee, you definitely are going to feel it.

And the rest of you can sit around and argue on social media about whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats fault, You're still going to feel it, and you're missing the larger point that when the government is shut down, it harms all of us, all of us, and you're going to feel it.

Today was the first example where you may not have even been thinking about it, but your flight was delayed or canceled, or you have to think about scheduling your next flight.

And that's just air traffic controllers.

There's gonna be other ways that you're going to feel it.

You're going to see I don't know if you've heard about the Kentucky high schools they had to cancel some of the games.

You don't know how this is going to play out or how long it's going to play out.

The Huntington Air Show they lost all of their military fighter shows, all the F fifteens and the screaming Eagles at all.

Yeah, the American American US.

Military Force, and from my understanding, it suffered.

It suffered, and they're going to be more.

And you know, if you want to still complain about the Democrats or complain about the Republicans, have at it.

God bless you.

You're missing the point because these are actual lives who are being impacted, and in the case of air traffic controllers, actual lives who are being put in danger.

If we didn't need air traffic controllers, we wouldn't.

Be having this conversation.

You would do better to say I don't understand or know or I can't fully appreciate the importance of air traffic controllers.

The whole idea of planes not running to each other on the tarmac, that's air traffic controllers that they're not crashing into each other on takeoff and landing.

Because if you ever driven down the one ten Freeway at night, you can see the line of planes coming into LAX.

They cross over the one ten and the four or five freeway into land.

There are people managing that.

And maybe I'm hypersensitive to this because I had a family member who worked at LAX for the better part of twenty twenty five years, and I hear about the horror stories that never were publicized, the things which have happened on airplanes which didn't make it to the public that the public like you and me, didn't hear about from KTLA or k COW or Fox eleven.

There are a lot of things which go unreported because there is an effort to make sure that not all the bad stuff gets out.

There were probably some near misses today that you don't know about.

There were probably some incidents between ground control and airplanes which caused an increasing level of danger for travelers that you just didn't know about.

Just because there wasn't a mid air collision doesn't mean that people were not in greater danger today.

And y'all gonna learn this government shutdown is going to hurt Americans, both figuratively and literally.

I hope it does not literally lead to such consequences, but I do know, as history as a guide and what I know about the inner workings of airports and air travel, this is a very dangerous moment.

This is not about Democrats and Republicans.

This is about your family members traveling.

This is about my family member's traveling.

It's about your friends traveling.

And if something bad were to happen, it won't be any different if you point the finger at one person or one party or another.

I'm not both citing this.

I'm saying, get your priorities in order.

So also, on the show tonight, Tawala, even though I was out of town, felt the need to text me, felt the need to send this article to me, felt the need to extol the virtues of way Mo because there's this, let me be clear, and editorial.

It's not a news report in editorial singing the praises of Waimo and its safety record.

So Twala is going to do a victory touchdown dance tonight about Waimo and probably will receive a few other bonus checks for bringing it to my attention.

I'm just bringing to your attention because it's precedent and you must talk about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

And something about a new casino coming to California.

I've got to ask, is it really a casino.

I know there's Hustler casino.

I know there's Hollywood Park casino, but is it really a casino?

If you can't play all the traditional.

Games, it's a casino.

And we will talk about that.

And horoscope.

What coffee are you based on relative to your zodiac sign?

I don't drink coffee, so I don't know how helpful this will be to me.

I know, Twala, you drink coffee, you go to seven eleven and risk your life, mark her, you get coffee just.

About every day.

Right, that's because I'm a patriot.

Mo.

That's right, that's right, that's right.

Yes, and all your coffee cups have to say Merry Christmas, all them.

I know, I know.

We talked about this before and doctor Sam, do you drink coffee?

No?

I didn't think so.

No, it hurts my stomach.

Am I working with here?

What is this?

Well, my goodness, where you're working with people who are above the age of forty and not all of us can ingest all that caffeine.

Can't do it.

I'm a fan right now, So wall I can't eat spicy food, your candy, spoty, you're all incontinent.

I'm gonna go get some coffee right now.

It's not incontinent just because something may bother your You're you're large and testine.

It could be Crohn's disease.

It's different.

Six to one, half a dozen of the plot.

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And just remind you we have a major, major mo' kelly Halloween soire party update sometime before the end of the show.

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Just let you know, got a major update.

Also this article that Twalla sent me over the weekend.

I was trying to mind my business in Miami, but now we had to interrupt my weekend with this column regarding Waimo and its safety record.

So let's get into this and then parts the data.

Waimo has released its new safety statistics and it's boasting that its fleet of vehicles have covered more than ninety six million miles and this was as of June.

Now, from what it seems, the companies claiming this is Waimo that it's rivalless vehicles are ninety one percent less likely to be involved in crashes resulting in serious injury compared to an average human driver of the same distance.

Tuala has made this point in various forms along the way, so that's not unexpected to get more granular.

Between mid February and mid August of this year.

Contrary to that point, Weimo vehicles were involved though in a total of forty five crashes that were reported to the government.

But under deeper analysis of those forty five crashes, twenty four crashes the Weimo was not moving at all, and another seven the Weimo was rear ended by another vehicle.

Now, I can't speculate as to when the Weimos were not moving at all, whether they were at fault.

You know, you can be not moving and at fault.

But I'll just say that none of them are.

I'll I'll just could see that.

I'll just say that's the case.

But to t.

Wallas point and credit, the accidents were not the fault of Weimo's self driving tech.

According to the data released by Weimo.

Here's the thing.

I think we should make a distinction.

Although Weimo may boast it an exemplary safety record.

There is still the underlying discussion about the technology.

Self driving technology as is being rolled out by a number of companies.

Weimo in comparison to the Tesla Robotaxi, you can see a stark difference there.

The Robotaxi by Tesla has already been involved in a considerable number of crashes where it was at fault.

Yes, General Motors Cruise was also before it was run out of business, involved in a number of crashes, including the time it dragged a woman underneath it for twenty feet.

Yes, that was blamed on and it was not Weymo that did that.

But in the same article that you sent me Towala, Yes you sent me, it says there are reasons to be skeptical of Weaimo's safety statistics.

One, and I'm reading directly from the article.

Its vehicles are carefully maintained and far newer than the average car on public roads.

So, in other words, if we take that to be true, the longer they're on the road, we may see some deterioration of the vehicles and also their safety record.

That's the speculation that remains to be seen.

But going back to the article.

There have been also countless other instances of its fleet acting erratically, from failing to follow a construction worker's hand signal to smashing into delivery robots.

I myself have seen arrant behavior by Weimo, So not everything dangerous ends in a collision or an accident.

I'm saying, I just from what I've seen.

So I will concede the data which has been given that Weimo is at least superior to its competitive and has a good safety record.

I refuse to concede.

I refuse to concede that Weimo is the way to go.

You don't have to concede way Mo being the way to go.

You don't have to.

Unfortunately, as the days tick on, and as you keep on ticking, way Mo will become a way of life, as will robots rolling around the streets, as will Tesla and Hondai and everyone else who's rolling out self driving autonomous taxis and all of that.

The short distance flying cars, those are also coming.

You think they're not, but they've been doing several tests here in Santa Monica and around the area to get those up and running quickly.

It's about to be a new.

Day before for you know it, Mo, Yeah, but there's also something we should still make the distinction that Weaimo is not on the freeway.

Yet.

It's a whole different ballgame on the freeway.

It's one thing when you're playing basketball, as they say, Park and Rec.

It's another thing when you're play it against pros and the idiots who are on the highway, like the one ten, the four h five, the seven ten, the six oh five, the ninety one to fifty five to fifty seven to one thirty four, the one seventy, the eighteen to fourteen, all of them.

It's going to be a brand new ballgame for Waimo if they even get into that game.

MO.

I don't like riding on the freeway, thank you.

I hate the freeway.

What happens when a Waimo encounters a Mark Ronner.

Look, look, there's nobody to flip off.

Well, yes, that is true.

And the thing about it is Mark has attested too many a white knuckle drives on the freeway.

He also hates the freeway.

None of us like the freeways because of the idiots on it.

Why they have to bring knuckle race into it.

I got a question, Tawala, are you prepared for this or are you fully I am not fully ensconced in my defense?

Okay, all right, all right, So I'm not going to declare you a hostile witness yet.

But we know now more and more that the more people use AI, the more their brain literally atrophies and rots.

They lose their thinking skills.

Don't you think that also transfers to driving.

Don't we want people to maintain actual driving skills?

Mark you think there's going to be people driving as you get older into your elderly years, and there won't be.

There will not be people driving.

Self driving technology is going to be rolled out in the everyday car, not just in the wey mo get used to it.

Follow up question turning around, My follow up is does Waimo pay in superhero action figures or just cash.

You blank and blank blank?

Now go ahead and call him an ace hoola, it's your turn.

No, no, no, don't you dare.

Look, look, you keep that filthy, disrespectful language to yourself.

I need answers.

I'm a journalist.

It's smirching this conversation with your lies.

Lies.

We were literally going in a good direction and here you come with the negative.

Now, come on, to all.

It's not like Marcus saying that he doesn't know Gilain Maxwell.

Okay, it's not like that.

Okay, don't drag me into that.

Do you have to?

You can always say time to go to break?

Oh yeah, look at the time.

Oh god, later with mo' kelly.

I wean't talk about gambling and a casino, a major casino coming to California maybe possibly.

I mean, is it a casino or is it like where you played the pig out Poker?

Never mind?

Yeah, I've played it before.

Okay, I have, but it's like or you have, like they have this game.

It's not like blackjack, but you can get like twenty two, twenty three, twenty five.

I'm the only one who's played that at like hust casino that doesn't exist.

I know, I'm being serious.

I haven't gone gambling at a lot.

I can't remember.

I can't remember what it's called.

But it's not like black jack.

It might be called like blue jack or something.

I don't know what it's called, but you know it was considered skill.

I'll look it up during the break.

Wait, is the Hustler casino casino connected with Larry Flint?

Yeah?

Yeah, Oh we got to go there.

You didn't.

What do we need to do a family field trip?

Yes, we do, Yes, what's happening?

How can you not know?

I know you're not from California back.

How can you not know about Hustler Casino?

I have no explanation.

Now I want to go.

No, it's a hole in the wall.

Still it is murder bound.

Yes, like in the parking lot.

It is.

Oh, oh you came up tonight.

I will be robbing you.

No, wait for you such a door.

You're not deterring me.

Let's take this up later.

I'm not letting this go.

KFI Later with mo Kelly major, major Halloween party update before the show's over.

You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty.

Six live on YouTube of the iHeartRadio app Let's talk a little bit of gambling.

Last segment, you heard from Mark Ronner saying we need to have like a field trip, the boys night out going to Hustler Casino.

And I was making the point that if you go to one of these local casinos like Hustler Hollywood Park.

Not trying to reign on anyone's parade.

I'm saying they're restricted as far as the types of games that can offering because gambling is quote unquote illegal in California, sports betting is quote unquote illegal.

There are a lot of loopholes.

That's why I say quote unquote.

So if you go to one of these casinos, you by and large don't have the traditional gambling type offerings.

I think I don't remember all the laws, but in California you can't offer like traditional slot machines, you can't offer traditional blak jack or roulette, what have you.

But there are loopholes to all of this, and when it comes to gambling, what has been traditionally called Indian gaming, traditionally called Indian gaming, is one of those loopholes.

Hard Rock Casino to Home, a partnership between Tohone Indian Tribe and Hard Rock International, announced it will officially open this casino on November thirteenth, and when it opens, hard Rock Casino to Home will be among California's largest gaming destinations, featuring one hundred and fifty thousand feet feet of gaming space, roughly the same size as the MGM Grand Volagio Mandalay Bay and about twenty thousand square feet larger than Caesar's Palace.

Where's it going to be.

It's going to be in Metler, which is about fifteen miles south of Bakersfield, and it's at the base of the Great Viney along I five.

In other words, a hell of a lot closer than anything in Loss of Vegas or at State Line.

So it's a lot closer to just about anyone listening right now.

And when you open the doors, they're saying that guests will be able to find.

As I was saying earlier talking about the difference between traditional casinos in California and Indian gaming, two thousand slot machines, fifty live table games, including blackjack, as you and I know it, and before the break, I was talking about this weird blackjack that you could play at these other casinos and had to look it up, and it's called California Blackjack.

LA Blackjack meant just for us to circumvent all the laws.

That's crazy.

It would be better than twenty one twenty two.

And that's the basis of the game.

And California Blackjacks played with the standard deck of cards, four jokers for a total of fifty six cards.

The objects of the game is to have the cards whose face value is closer to twenty two than the face value of the design native player bankers.

In other words, the dealers ultimate cards.

If the face value of a player's cards is closer to twenty two than a designated player banker's total he she wins, you cannot bust in California blackjack.

It's possible to win with twenty three or more if the face value of both hands are equal distance to twenty two, but one is under one is over twenty two, the other hand wins.

I know it's very complicated.

YadA YadA, YadA, blah blah blah blah blah.

That is legal in California, but the traditional blackjack that you and I know have played may think of is not.

Aha aha, but that doesn't apply to Indian gaming because that's not California.

It is a what's the word I'm looking for?

A sovereign sovereign is a sovereign nation unto itself.

So do they have blackjack at like Pachanga and places like that currently?

As far as I know, I want to say yes, okay, as far as I know, and someone will probably hit me up on social media and correct me.

But it's definitely coming to hard rock casino to home.

I like that they're using the hard rock name, so that gives it like a lot of familiarity off the top.

Yes, yes, this brand recognition.

Who has not been or who is not aware of a hard rock cafe?

Yeah?

Yeah, I mean I know in California we know the names Marongo, we know the names, but Changa, we know these names.

Yeah we know, but blah blah.

Yeah, you know, everyone knows hard rock.

And I think with this here, I wonder does this make way for even more?

Oh?

It has to and to something that Mark Ronner said some weeks ago talking about the struggles of Las Vegas and tourism.

If you have a viable option, and honestly, the California gaming places are not valuable in the LA area, that's just not I live right next to Hollywood Park Casino.

Trust me, it's it's not a casino.

It's a place with a bunch of card tables and in a bar.

It's not been there many to been to hustle casino.

Mark, You're not missing out on anything.

Come on, but I'm willing to take you just one time so you can say, well, you're right, let's go.

It sounds fun.

Anything to pay tribute to Larry Flint.

Mark, I'm going to tell you a story off air about an incident that I know for a fact that took place.

Didn't he come to the studio?

Wasn't he interviewed at the Beat.

Yes, that's what I thought.

That's what I thought.

Yeah, Mart, we got stories for days, Mark, we have stories right days.

I saw Larry Flint at Craigs and I wanted to send him a drink.

And I realized he probably has a thousand times what I have in the bank, and this would be pointless.

I have met him twice, had met him twice.

Rip It was at Jerry's Deli in Burbeck.

He was a frequent or my mind, frequent visit.

I was there all the time, so I knew anyone who came in.

I was like norms and they walk in and say, oh, everybody knew my name.

But my point is you would see quote unquote celebrities just about every weekend at Jerry's Deli in Studio City.

Your First Amendment champions come in all shapes and forms.

Mo Oh, look it was the same night.

I swear to goodness it was the same night it was Ron Jeremy and Larry Flint and Jerry's.

I'm not kidding, That's what I'm saying.

And Sam you probably know this.

Jerry's Deli was a huge porn hangout.

Oh huge porn hangout.

Oh yeah, I mean I've I've been at several places where Ron Jeremy just randomly shows up.

And this was, you know, back in the day when he could show up at places.

Right, He's not showing up anywhere, No, not anymore, not know, just the yard.

Boy?

Why not?

I didn't convict him.

Can't we have a conversation about Ron Jeremy me and not talk about his Johnson?

Is it possible?

What I didn't mention it?

Oh?

I thought what you said?

Your can if I am six forty.

Hey wait a minute, how dare you sure.

Sure?

Mark?

That was not your intention.

It's not your intention.

We misunderstood, We took you out of context.

Won have you put words or anything else in my mouth?

Mom?

There you go again?

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I have to just change gears here for a second because we were over last segment.

It's gonna be real short segment.

I just want to say this got to pitch this morning from a publicist, very well liked and respected.

But I have no problem with this person pitching.

But they pitched us two R and B singers, Monica and Brandy.

And if you were familiar with R and B music, you know those artists.

Okay, Brandy had the TV show Moesha, Monica well known R and B singer.

They did a song together called The Boy Is Mine and it was pretty controversial at the time because people thought that they were really actually fighting over a dude, so much so that it did create a tension between those two as artists.

Long story short, they're on tour.

From what I read, ticket sales are a little bit sluggish.

They were pitched to us, And if you know anything about me, I am the most petty person on the face of the air.

I don't know if there's anyone who exceeds my pettiness.

Going back to nineteen ninety five, I was working for the Grammys and we were in New York at Radio City Music Hall, and this is when I can't remember the year.

But it's the year if you look it up.

When C.

C.

Winings and Whitney Houston were performing a duet together, and I think maybe even Brandy as well, whoever was on stage.

This was rehearsal.

Whitney Houston came in drunk, high, hung over and drunk, okay, and she wore sunglasses.

I even have some pictures of it somewhere, and that's very important because when she came in, we were told no pictures.

No one is supposed to approach miss Houston.

Yah, yeah, yeah, blah blah blah.

I SAIDs that Whitney freaking Houston.

I'm gonna get me a picture of or with Whitney Houston.

So I had my camera on, I was ready, okay.

I didn't even use the flash.

I didn't think anyone was around me.

I took a picture of Whitney Houston and CC Winings as they were doing their rehearsal on stage.

Brandy Norwood's mother ran to tell the grammy folks that they needed to fire me for taking that picture.

I vowed it.

This is thirty years ago, thirty years ago, thirty years ago.

I said, I will never ever do anything to help her or her family ever again.

And mind you, I knew Brandy's father and Ray J.

Brandy's father is a brother in the same frattorney as me, a mega sci fi fraternity.

I met Brandy's father, Willie Norwood, long before I met Brandy or sonya the mother.

Okay, long story short.

When I said, I never thirty years later, they're pitched to me.

I told Tolala, I said, Brandy will never ever be a part of anything I do in my life.

And today I had the pleasure of saying to the publicist FT and kids package.

Deal with Brandy and Liam Neeson to Wallow, that's up to you.

You have your own Norwood story.

Look, I have never had a good interaction with miss Norwood ever, ever, ever, ever, never, I have gone above and beyond.

I think I have a picture of me uh and my former assistant program director.

So I was the musical director.

He was assistant program director, Dorsey Fuller of the Third We were sitting at a restaurant trying to convince Brandy to do a show for us after she had fallen out with my station because of her mother.

Look if when I was writing for my column for euur Web, I never missed an opportunity to talk mess about Brandy.

She knows who I am.

She cannot stand me, I'm sure, and the feeling is mutual.

She will never ever be a part of anything that I ever do, and her mama to And I don't care who buddy who knows run Tail that this This business is replete with crutches fetas you talk about cancel culture, she is canceled from anything I will every I don't care if she wins an Academy Award, a Grammy Award, a Razzie Award.

The Best Breath award.

She is never ever going to be a part of anything I do, Brandy, nor would.

The best Breath.

I said that.

Because the rumor was because she had stink breath.

That's the only reason I said that.

Damn, you got that close to her.

We have been that close to her.

Yeah.

As a matter of fact, there's.

A story that we're going to talk about later tonight talking about Lionel Ritchie and MJ's lack supposed lack of hygiene.

And I say that to say, in this business, you get close enough to people to experience them as humans.

You get to see how they are.

Maybe they may be you know, god awful famous, but there's still people, and sometimes when they're so famous, they become disconnected with the normal little things that you and I would be concerned about, you know, taking a shower, putting on deodorant, brushing her teeth.

I told the stories about Lenny Kravits all the time.

Lenny Kravits was not special in that regard.

He's part of a lot of artists who didn't wash the ass, as they say, just stink.

Okay.

So when I tell the story later on about what Lion or Richie had to say about Michael Jackson, I one hundred percent believe him.

Love Lenny Kravits, but he does smell like hot elephant.

Thank you, thank you.

He's not.

It's nothing.

I don't care how many women fall out about him in his abs.

He's stank.

He came to the station and you could smell him down the hallway just we're probably leather is sweat and leather, no shirt funking cologne.

I was like, leather cologne does not cover up ass.

Who's elephant asses up in here?

Be on the box score when we come back and I met what I said, I said what I said, Brandy I know someone's listening is probably probably want to run.

Tell her run, Tell that Sonya too.

It's my house.

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