Episode Transcript
Welcome to the Favorites, presented by DraftKings.
The crown is yours.
We are an Action Network podcast.
I'm Brandon Kravitz and the crew is back together on this fine Tuesday morning.
Kendra Middleton and the Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation, Stucky is here as well.
On today's episode, We've got our plant the Flag game for week eleven.
A Thursday night preview that ought to be quick because that game is kind of gross, and of course the main event Evans Tuesday primer.
Phenomenal night of football last night, a true throwbacks looby knocker, and one that netted me some cheese along the way, both literally and figuratively.
Now, Kendra, the touchdown props did let us down last night.
You and Evan handled things quite well on the Sunday night recap show.
Speaker 2But what are you feel we.
Speaker 1Learned from that ten to seven slugfest on ABC Slash ESPN.
Speaker 3I learned that maybe these bitch ass billionaires are right.
Speaker 4YouTube TV was right.
Speaker 3I didn't need to watch that game last night.
They saved me, low key from having to sit down and watch that on my couch.
Speaker 4Instead.
Speaker 3I made bagels and banana bread and that was a better use of my time than really sitting there intensely watching that game because it was ass.
Speaker 1I'm a YouTube TV subscriber.
I wasn't able to sit back and watch it last night.
I'm boycotting the ESPN dispute.
Eventually I will have to give in, Thankfully.
I was working a magic game last night, so I wasn't sitting on the couch debating how I want to spend my thirty dollars that ESPN is trying to get from us.
Speaker 3But it's twenty dollars and also fun fact, you have to go in to your account and activate it.
Speaker 4You don't actually just get it.
Speaker 3You have to go on your desktop and activate the coupon you.
Speaker 1Well that's but that's just for the They just give you twenty dollars.
They're not giving us ESPN.
I want the network.
I don't want their money.
Speaker 2Stucky.
What'd you take away from last night?
Speaker 5Yeah, for I was a great call by you, you got a terrible bet by me.
I mean, I don't care about losing a bet.
Things happen in a football game, but like always want to get the best of the line, so didn't there.
It was probably my worst week of NFL.
I also, it was a trade deadline week.
I know better than the bet early Sometimes I bet the Falcons plus six could have gotten a six and a half if it was by six in overtime.
So just some terrible bets made across the board.
But yeah, I thought the Eagles were the slightly better team.
I mean, no one did anything.
I mean, I can't remember the NFL being this boring in a long long time.
That's just the bottom, not not even I'll get to that game in Secon, but just the bottom of the league right now is so bad and it's creating way too many uncompetitive games.
But yeah, I thought both offenses were ugly.
The Eagles offense still looks broken.
The play calling is not creative.
They're running it too much.
And then the Packers did the same.
I get that Jenkins left the game, there was no golden I underestimated the loss of Craft not only in the receiving game, but also what he does in other facets.
And then they lost Dobbs at the end, and you're throwing to bo Melton too much.
But I thought that the Packers were just poorly coached throughout the whole game.
On offense, I mean, you have a fourth and one.
It's kind of ironic.
This happened against the Eagles, a fourth and one where you false start.
You had a long play to Christian Watson which took away a score.
They were it was an illegal formation.
They had an illegal formation on the fourth down on that to end the game before they ended up getting the ball back.
But on that play, I mean the Eagles were calling out the play.
They were saying, inside zone.
You're running an inside zone fourth and one from shotgun without your starting center in there.
Get up and sneak it or do something else and then and then you have you have the floor.
Who I love Brandon McManus has done.
He's I think he's three of nine from forty plus this year.
I get he was like five yards away on the first kick, but he's not making a sixty four yard or outdoors in Lambeau and he's bomb.
Speaker 4Leg His career is sixty one.
Speaker 2So yeah, that was probably in Denver in his prime though.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 5Yeah, and there was there was some win that was apparently going with them, but like it swirls and I thought that was a horrible decision.
So yeah, I mean, the thing is with the Packers right now, they have to figure out their offense.
So like, what do you do the Eagles that basically were inviting them to run the ball the entire game, and they obliged.
There was way too many early down runs and they kind of played right.
I get the the no craft and injuries oft receiver, but there were opportunities downfield that they're whenever they did try to throw it and they either didn't make the player didn't do it often enough.
But they have to figure out the offense because this defense right now is playing at a super Bowl caliber level.
I mean, you look at some of their losses this year.
They think they have three losses where they haven't allowed more than two scores on the year.
So like, you have to you only allow ten points in that game at home, I don't care about the injuries.
You have to you have to find a way to score more than seven points at home.
So yeah, they have some soul searching to do.
I didn't think Laflour called a great game.
So the defense is a super Bowl caliber but the special team certainly is in right now, and then the offense isn't and you're they're gonna have to get more creative without Craft.
Now this week, it probably won't hurt them.
You're going up against the Giants run defense, so you can get away with all these early down runs most likely.
But I mean, if you want to make a real run, this offense has to figure some things out.
It will also help when their wide receivers get healthy.
But I definitely underestimated the loss of Craft, but was disappointing just coaching effort, I thought from the floor and the Packers all around, and then the Eagles still have questions on offense.
But I did think I was really impressed with the Eagles defense been a pretty average unit all year.
The addition of Phillips, I thought was big.
I thought he played really well, gave him, gave them some extra juice off the edge.
So I thought Roseman did a really nice job, which usually does with the addition of Phillips.
I think he raises the floor of that defense.
So he had big win for the Eagles, is huge in the NFC standings.
And then you look like that game was so much more important for the Packers because look at their division, it's going to be an all out warthrount and then look at the Eagles division.
I mean, the Commanders have basically quit on the season, and they have I don't even know who they have left on the roster.
The Giants just fired their coach.
I mean, the Cowboys have a historically bad defense.
It's night and day when you compare the NFC East and the NFC North.
So that game was a big, big swing for the Packers and gets the Eagles even more breathing room as they try to go after that one seed.
Speaker 3We're missing the most important, slash insane part of the evening.
This is the revenge of the touch push game.
The Packers are the people who wanted to ban the touch push after the most after the postseason last year, and the Eagles on the touch push go early, don't get the call, and then a couple of plays later, the Packers go early and they call it on the Packers.
Speaker 4It's just flat out comedy comedy.
Speaker 5Just did the Packers go for a fall start too?
But they didn't call up right?
I don't understand why they can't see this, Why they can't see it so obvious.
Speaker 2I mean, the guys in the booth are calling it out.
Speaker 4It's the band fans.
Speaker 5I'm not even like half paying attention to a game.
If there's another game on another screen, I can see it, like not even like, but you're looking right down the line.
I don't understand why I can't catch it.
That might end up being the downfall of the touchbush.
I'm not four banning plays, but if they can't officiate it correctly, and I don't know why, I gotta ask a raf why it seems so obvious that you would be able to Yeah, that's the only thing you're looking for.
You're just looking down the line and you're seeing if anyone come.
And sometimes when the Eagles do it, it's like so obvious.
The guards are like shooting past before the balls even snap.
So I don't know why they can't get right.
They missed one on both teams.
Speaker 4It's embarrassing.
It's so embarrassing.
Speaker 3And it's just the fact that, of course it happens in that game, and the fans are catching onto it too, Like you know, it's an issue when the fans are officiating a game better than your zebras, like heard them, goodell, what are we doing?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 1Pretty ugly, especially as you mentioned, in a game that is ten to seven.
We saw very little offense on both sides to get to our main dish.
Speaker 2You mentioned it, Stucky.
Speaker 1The Giants fired their head coach, Brian daball is out.
They host the Packers this week, so a nice little get right for Green Bay perhaps in store.
Speaker 2First question is was it the right move?
Speaker 1Day Ball has started the last three seasons two and eight, but they had something cooking with Jackson Dart and they're missing half of their functional players on this team.
Do you improve the move, Stucky?
Speaker 5I mean yeah, I could see it.
It's just the fact that the fact that they kept I mean they had I think I was reading it was a one and sixty thousand chants.
If you just go based on the highest the maximum win probability that the Giants had in the Broncos game, the Bears game, and the Cowboys game, it's like a one in sixty thousand chance that they lost all three of those games.
A lot of that has to fall back on the coach.
I thought kicking the field goal this past week was bad.
Yeah, I mean, he's he's always Pagoma, but he's like losing his mind on the sidelines every week.
So I can see why a change had to be made.
I could see the argument for both sides, but he got dealt a bad hand this year with all the injuries, and uh, he walked into a bad situation.
Was coach of the Year his first year.
It's pretty wild one went to the playoffs.
Speaker 4Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1Two questions.
I want to I want to spin off on this for a second.
With the day ball stuff.
Jackson Dart has now been in the blue medical tent for concussions twice.
Speaker 2I wonder how much twice?
Speaker 4I thought three times?
Speaker 2Is it three?
Okay?
Speaker 1I mean I have two that are I could be probably imprinted into my head.
Speaker 2It could be three.
Speaker 1But we were two very notable, the one this past weekend and then the one where Brian Daball goes.
Speaker 2Get the fuck out here.
I don't want Wilson flaying quarterback.
Speaker 1And then you also have the success of Daniel Jones on the Indianapolis side, and I feel like some of the criticism towards Brian Daball is, you know, you got a little bit out.
Speaker 2Of them, but you didn't get this.
Kendra.
Speaker 1Do you think either of those has anything to do with Brian Daball getting fired, Daniel Jones success or not keeping your quarterback healthy?
Speaker 3I wouldn't say it's the not keeping your quarterback healthy thing or the Daniel Jones thing like for sure, because we see quarterbacks go elsewhere and succeed all the time and their prior coaches not lose their job.
For me, I think it's not the keeping your quarterback healthy so much beat it's the way he handled that first potential concussion that he had by going in the tent, letting Scattabo go in there.
Speaker 4You can't go twenty and.
Speaker 3Forty as a head coach and keep your job despite all of the injuries.
I think it was just the easiest time for them to have an out on him.
But I wouldn't say it's that you can't keep your quarterback healthy.
It's more so just how you handled your quarterback not being healthy and being on professional going in the tent yelling at people.
I think it was just more of an out and they needed the reason more than anything else.
Speaker 1From a betable perspective, the Packers were eight point favorites last night in the look Ahead.
Speaker 2They're now sitting at seven and a half.
Speaker 4I go back to the.
Speaker 3Firedhead Coe Jangle, you can it's the perfect bounce back spot for Green Bay and I do expect them to absolutely just beat the crap out of them.
Speaker 2They should.
Speaker 5Whatever you might have packed ross, we don't know darts exactly.
Speaker 4I want to speak Jamis.
I think this is Jamis.
I will absolutely be in on this number.
Speaker 2This is my teaser of the week.
Speaker 1I have the Green Bay Packers down to one and a half, Lions up to seven and a half.
It is sort of a it's a Monday Night football response here.
The Packers very much in a bounce back spot and Lions Eagles not much separation there.
The Eagles obviously have issues winning by much, so getting the Lions a plus seven and a half would feel like a gift.
That would be my way of playing into this.
I will not be playing either in a straight bet formula.
What about you, stuck.
Speaker 3I think the Lions are so much better than the Eagles right now.
Speaker 5I mean the Eagles are just they just find ways.
Speaker 2They find ways that is ugly up the game.
Speaker 5What are they sick?
They're six and one in one possession games now like they just but they will have a they have a half any time they play a competent opponent, they still have like a half where they don't score which is very concerning.
But I think their defense is playing a lot better now coming out of the bye.
I will say, and I don't know how much I can take from the Lions game, like that was one of the sad I mean you had commanders, were guys throwing punches getting thrown out, like there was some quid there, which was very not that they have much left on that defense, but.
Speaker 1It is dan Quinn's calling plays on defense too, so they're making the coaching change.
That's always the last line of defense.
Speaker 5Yeah, I mean that the Lions did.
I I talked about this last week about how the Lion's offense has been in the tank for a month and they made a change at play caller which was noteworthy.
I don't know, like, Okay, did that help things or was is the Washington defense that bad?
It could be a little bit of both.
As far as the Packers, I mean, you do have to look at the INDRT, like who's going to be healthy at wide receiver.
She saw Dubs leave, Golden was hurt.
There's no craft so like just the the ceiling of the passing attack right now is pretty low.
Now they should be able to just line up and run it with Jacob's lot because the Giants run dye is so bad, but.
Speaker 4They maybe Michael Parsons cursed.
Has anybody considered this?
Speaker 2I would, I would consider you for considering this, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5I don't want to back Ross like there is some thing to the new coach, a new coach, and historically it's like a little bit of a bump.
It's not overwhelming, and a lot of times that's like, hey, here's our new wrinkles, right, and it's something that the team isn't prepared for.
Now you have a team on a short week going on the road, facing team and new coach.
But if you have Russell Wilson, like you could, there's a lot of different new wrinkles that you could do with Dart, Like what what are you doing with Russ back?
Speaker 2That guy?
Speaker 4Please be Jamis Jamis?
Yeah, I gives him a better chance.
Speaker 1I would think, so, I mean, it can't get any worse.
Russ is so washed, but I but maybe with a new coaching staff, that's the way they look.
But day Ball clearly had something against Jamis ever seeing the field.
Speaker 5Yeah, that is something I watched for sure, because I think I would start Jamis as well.
I mean it's just especially as a dog like you just we Russ just doesn't have it anymore.
Speaker 4James James the least athletic.
Speaker 5He might throw a couple of picks, but he has a better chance of throwing some touchdowns.
Speaker 3And flank future all week in the locker room and start Jamis.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 5He Ross's career ended on that officially, and that Chiefs game when he threw into the tunnel three times.
Speaker 4I forgot about that.
It's like fucking somebody's down their ball with nobody down there.
It's just like vintage Ross.
Speaker 5Yeah, so that I would I would go Winton too, but that's certainly worth keeping an eye on.
Speaker 3Oh god, I making fun of Russell Wilson is so easy, but it's so fun.
Speaker 5Yeah, but I agree with you Brandon that it's a it's a Packers are definitely an intriguing teaser piece.
Speaker 1Let's get to one more news item, and we've got Thursday night football to break down as well.
Plant the flag coming up, Evans Primer Burrow back at practice.
He's not gonna play this week.
They take on the Steelers.
He's eyeing a Turkey Day return.
The Bengals do play on Thanksgiving, he wants to play.
Speaker 2This is wild.
Speaker 1I'm not saying it's the greatest bet in the world, but perhaps worth the slightest sprinkle.
The Bengals right now are one twenty to one to win the AFC.
The Ravens, who are one game in front of them, are plus six point fifty.
Now, obviously, if we're playing prediction mode, of which do you expect to win the AFC, if you had to pick one, we'd all pick the Ravens.
But the price is wildly different.
Any interest here as crazy as it is stucky.
Speaker 5No, I mean that defense isn't getting fixed, and then you're gonna burrow like we've seen Burrow.
It's like I bought some Ravens future and division when at the bottom before the Miami game, and I mean before the Bears game, and luckily Tyler Huntley won that game.
But I don't like to see the Barrows potentially coming back for that week.
That's when he would have to come back Thanksgiving.
Otherwise his season would be over because they just opened his window.
But they played the Ravens twice in three weeks.
But I mean, like right now, the offense isn't the problem, like how much more can Burrow do?
Like it's it's the defense, it's the offensive line.
But like they just they've lost games over the past two weeks where they scored thirty eight and forty two points and they played the Jets and the Bears.
These aren't like the number one offenses in the league.
So I just don't think that they can with that defense.
And then you have to remember, I mean, they only they have three wins right now.
They're gonna be dogs at the Steelers, they get the Pats, and they're at the Ravens, they're at the Bills or the Ravens.
Again, that's gonna be tough because The're gonna have to go on a run like now before Burrow gets back.
And then you also have to remember, like in the past, when Burrows come back or I should say just like started the season, he's not this year, but in prior seasons he's usually dealt with an injury and like hasn't played in the preseason or like hasn't been practicing, And then you saw those first couple of games that it takes them some time to get going.
So number one, we don't know the rust and we don't know like it will be one hundred percent healthy.
So I mean, if you wanted to throw some couchs change on it, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2It's not like I mean two bucks on that toy.
Speaker 5I would.
I can't get too mad at you, but it's just the defense.
Like I just can't see them ever finding out a way to get enough stops because and like, yeah, Barrow coming back is a boost, it's not like scoring a week.
Speaker 1And the argument for whether it's them or or anybody where you're getting shorter odds than one that's probably just going to be a waste of your time is that the AFC is kind of sketchy this year.
I do feel like now would be a good time.
That's the wildest bet that you can make among teams that have any sort of opportunity to make it out of the conference.
But I do think right now is a good chance to look at the board over on DraftKings and see is there somebody that you believe in that you feel like you're getting a long number on Kendra, I'm gonna throw some at you.
Tell me which bet you'd be willing to make.
This is just a gut reaction doesn't mean that you have to go placing it in the app.
Jags sixty to one, not expecting a guess on that, Chargers eleven to one, Patriots seven to one, the Colts are plus four to twenty five.
Do any of those sound intriguing as far as just simply making it out of the conference.
Speaker 4Probably the Chargers.
I have a Chargers.
Speaker 3Bet like plus one fifty one twenty something like that preseason for them to make the playoffs.
So I've really been on the Chargers bandwagon for a minute, and I don't think I'm ready to get off of it yet.
My only issue is that justin Herbert in the postseason, absolute joke artist, give clutch geen.
Speaker 4That's my issue.
You can get he can get you there.
I don't.
Speaker 3I don't know how far he can get you in the postseason.
That's my big issue with him.
But probably the Chargers.
I get that everybody and their mom loves the Patriots right now, especially up here, like and deservingly so they.
Speaker 1I can only imagine what sportstock radio is like in your area.
Speaker 3Oh my god, they deserve all their flowers right now.
But there's no way they stay this healthy.
There's no way this trajectory continues.
They just don't have the talent, Like you can stay healthy and that can get you so far.
And yes, Drake May is incredible, Like injury come for all of us, and when that happens to them, like they just don't have the depth at all to back up anybody.
Like God forbid, one person goes down, They're they're obliterated.
I just I can't get behind the Patriots of those options.
For me, I have to continue to ride my Chargers bandwagon.
Even though Lad McConkie is still in jail.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know, he's looked good, but maybe he'll break out this week.
Speaker 2He's dead to me, he's reached dead loss.
Speaker 1So we're beyond bet jail.
We are now in bet death with lad McConkie.
Speaker 3Yeah, me and me and Ladd McConkie were he's he's halfway in the grave.
Speaker 1For me, it's six feet under mine would be the Texans at thirty five to one.
If you have the best defense in the NFL.
Well, I know it's not pretty thirty five to one for the best defense in the AFC.
They just shut teams down in the postseason.
Speaker 2They could get that.
Speaker 4I don't even think they're going to make it out of no I mean.
Speaker 2They'd have to make the playoffs first.
Speaker 5But we're about to get to the one case I will make for the Patriots, though, just I'll say it is that the Chargers, I just I don't know if they can go on a run with their offensive line the current state of it.
We'll see.
But the one thing I'll say about the Patriots, like what happened this weekend.
It was huge for them and their chances at getting the one seed.
And I mean, you got Denver as the Chiefs coming up a couple of times this week or in the next month, and the Patriots now eight and two.
They've had one of these schedules, but guess what, their schedule doesn't get much more difficult.
The Bills lost, and that there are two games ahead with one game in hand, and there's a good chance that the Patriots are gonna be right there for the one seed, which is obviously massive.
And then you get that highly coveted by and right now it's I mean, you look at that game on Sunday from an efficiency standpoint, wasn't great.
But every week it's Drake May and that deep ball is like a cheap code for this offense, and he can continues to play extremely well.
But like they have the Jets at home this week, and the Bengals, then the Giants.
Speaker 1And their schedule has been so soft, and it just continues to get softer.
Speaker 5Yeah it might, but it might save them a game, and it might give them home field, and.
Speaker 1They do have some impressive wins, and beating the Bucks is nothing to sneeze at.
Speaker 2They got to the win again, you have to.
Speaker 5Give them credit.
But yeah, it's May is May has played really well and that this weekend did a lot for their potential to get that one seat and give them breathing room in the division as well.
Speaker 4Are we buying his MVP odds?
Speaker 3I know that at the beginning of the season they're like eighty or ninety to one or something outrageous like that, And now he's I don't know if it's him or Stafford right now, probably him.
Speaker 1Stafford is the favorite as it stands right now, I would just lay a bet on Jonathan Taylor and hope that the narrative gets so loud around him that we actually go anti quarterback here as far as the number goes.
Speaker 2I want to see it.
Speaker 4I just want to I wanted to not be a quarterback award.
Speaker 3I just if they didn't give it a saque last year, it's hard for me to get there in my brain.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Maybe maybe maybe that shook uh, maybe that shook some people into thinking maybe we should get start giving this to a running back.
About to take a look at Thursday Night football?
Should we be laying it with the New England Patriots.
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Speaker 4Is yours stuck.
Speaker 1Before we get the Thursday Night Football.
You are our resident maction expert a couple of games tonight, give us a pick.
Explain the handicap in NFL terms.
Speaker 6For tonight, we can go Western Michigan.
Speaker 5I don't know if if there's still any dog prices out there against Ohio.
Ohio is they're kind of like the current state of the Broncos in a way, and they've had some fortunate wins.
They should have lost last week Western Michigan at home, coming off of bye.
It's a good spot.
They had the better defense, and after what the mac refs did to my of Ohio last week, hopefully Ohio has some something coming to them this week.
But yeah, I like the Western Michigan defense, and then their offense isn't great, but I think they can run the ball here.
It's a very weak Ohio defense, and I think they're a better team overall at home.
So we can go with the Broncos.
No, and yeah, we're going with the Broncos against the college Broncos.
Speaker 2Are you serious?
You gotta love it?
And Sucky got ahead of it there.
Speaker 1You got a plus one in the app now sitting at minus one and a half over on DraftKings.
If you need to play for Tuesday Night Jets at Patriots.
Thursday Night Patriots favored by eleven and a half total, sitting at forty three.
Don't look now, but the Jets are riding a two game winning streak.
Patriots just slightly better.
They've won seven in a row.
The Patriots now have wins over the Bucks and the Bills, as we mentioned, but they are riding the good fortune of one of the easiest schedules in the NFL, and that's not going to change here.
We will give them credit though, Not only do they have a couple of impressive wins seven and three against the spread, so they're not just winning these games, they are covering in the process.
Garrett Wilson is likely out three to four weeks, so that's even more of a reason to not like the New York Jets here.
New England is top ten and EPA per play on offense.
On defense, they're allowing three point six yards per carry.
All the Jets want to do is run the football.
This should be a smash spot for the New England Patriots.
If it wasn't for the fact that Thursday Night football is weird, I would probably lay it with New England I might get there.
To me, it's Pats or pass backing it or benching it.
Speaker 3What do you say, Kendra, I'm definitely beenching it.
Speaker 4I want nothing to do with this game whatsoever.
I the Patriots in my crew.
I can't.
Speaker 3I can't get there, Like I can't bet another cent on the Patriots this year.
They just have absolutely decimated me.
Every time I think they're gonna fall apart, they just somehow.
Speaker 4Get better and better.
I don't want anything to do with the Patriots, but I will say the Jets have been looking sneaky good, and it's a short week.
Speaker 3I still don't think the Jets are a good football team, but I think that they're making decisions to become a better football team.
I just can't doubt this Patriots team anymore.
They've really, they've really shoved it down my throat.
I I don't know what to say anymore.
I can't.
I was wrong, and that's okay.
Speaker 2That's good.
Do you gotta take your lumps, Stucky?
Speaker 1Are you gonna roll with the dirty, disgusting dog in this game?
Speaker 2Or enough?
Completely?
Speaker 5I mean, I think that there might be a chance to fade the paths sometime coming up this is not the spot in my opinion.
I mean number one, just historically, these first time head coaches in their first Thursday game have been really poor against the spread.
I don't know if Evan has that, but you know, because it's like unique prep and they're not used to doing that, and a lot of times their teams have come out and gotten smacked.
But I don't see how, like what is the path for they just got to hope that this game is weird or like you're down seventeen, you get a backdoor touchdown.
But the Jets, like you said, they can't throw the ball.
I mean they just won a game where fields went six to eleven for fifty yards.
They beat the Browns because they had two kick return They had a kick return and a punt return for a touchdown.
It's the only reason they won that game.
And then they beat the historically bad Bengals defense.
I mean, anyone can move the ball and them they were able to run the ball there.
Well, the Patriots run defense is really good.
Where you can get them a bit is through the air, but it's not the Jets, especially without Wilson, So I don't know how they move the ball here and it's not like this Jets defense, which is now without two of its best players, probably not gonna I said this last week, it's probably not gonna hurt you against the Browns offense outdoors.
But even the Browns, I mean they put up twenty that's a lot for the Browns.
The Browns usually don't get past seventeen.
So I mean Gabriel threw for one to seventy two touchdowns and they ran for five yards for rush, like, but this is the Patriots offense is on another level.
So yeah, I don't know how.
I don't love like laying big numbers in the NFL like this, but here it's all signs going to the Patriots.
I could never bet the Jets here.
But do you like fourteen and a half?
Speaker 2This?
Speaker 1This does feel like an SEC team taking on Wafford or something like that.
Speaker 5Yeah, like they just the Pats.
Rundy is legit, and even though.
Speaker 4It's divisional, you still feel like you need fourteen and a half.
Speaker 5Yeah, just the matchup wise, you got Glenn early, you don't have Wilson anymore, You've traded two of your best defenders.
I just don't see the path, Like it's just a terrible matchup for the Jets on both sides of the ball.
And this is when you'll really miss Sauce Gardner in this particular matchup.
And I mean the Patriots, however they want to move the ball, probably can.
Also, the Jets had other defensive injuries that I don't know who's gonna play on a short week, but they had a bunch of guys get banged up on the defensive line at linebacker.
One of their new starting cornerbacks got left the game.
So yeah, I just how do the Jets move the ball here?
And then I don't know how they get enough stops to keep this close without just like they're gonna have to get some turn now.
The one thing that could could change it is the Jets are like then this is just one football game stuff.
But the Jets are probably the most overdue team in the history of the NFL to get like takeaways, so like flukey takeaways that could keep them in it.
I think on the season, like, do they even have an interception yet?
I believe they don't have an interception.
Speaker 4That would be a crazy stat they don't.
Speaker 5Have an interception.
Speaker 4What are the odds for them to pick off Drake May and.
Speaker 5They're minus minus ten and turnovers.
Uh, don't have an interception on the season.
It's week eleven, like, so that's their path, Like they're gonna have to get some overdue turnover regression.
And but because I don't know how to move the ball consistently.
Speaker 3That might be my play in our barlay on Thursdays for the Jets to pick off Drake.
Speaker 2May plus one thirty six.
Please don't do that to us.
Speaker 4That's it.
Speaker 2Yep, damn, It's like the books are ready for you.
Speaker 1Let's plant our flag presented by DraftKings.
Speaker 2The crown is yours.
Speaker 6Shut up, I'm trying to plant my flag here.
Speaker 1Okay, you're really planning your flag in that thick Kendra get us started.
Speaker 2What are you looking at?
Speaker 4I had two options for this.
Speaker 3I didn't know if either of you would be thinking the same thing as me.
I only have two bets in for the week so far.
I'm probably only gonna put in four or so, so half my bets are already in.
Speaker 2But I have been discipline.
Speaker 1By the way Kendrick does this every single week, I've started seeing your betting patterns.
Speaker 2Kendrew's red hot.
Speaker 1By the way, So for all of you on YouTube that talks shit every week, stick it because she's hotter than all of us.
Speaker 2So job well done by you.
Speaker 4But it's discipline.
Speaker 1I envy your discipline because I feel like I have a bloated sheet every single week.
Speaker 2But anyway, what are they joking at?
Speaker 3I think I'm going to go with the Commanders getting two and a half points against the Dolphins.
Speaker 4This Dolphins team is just so us.
I don't know where.
I guess they got a little bit of the GM bump.
Speaker 3But this Commander's team is bad, but they're not as bad as this Dolphins team.
Even with the injuries the Dolphins, I just keep expecting week after week for them to go belly up and throw the season away because, like I said last week, they didn't do anything to make themselves better this season or next season.
They didn't sell off, they didn't fire the coach, they haven't benched anybody.
I guess you could maybe call it the Tyreek hillbump because he's no longer a cancer on the field while he's running around out there being a jackass.
But still this Commander's team getting points.
Don't care that it's in Miami.
They just got beat what forty four to twenty two?
Yeah, oh yeah, it is in Madrid.
This is the Madrid game.
But still regardless, neutral field, and you're gonna give me two and a half points?
Speaker 4Even better, let's get after it.
I like it.
Speaker 1Yeah, the I was looking at the Commanders as possible teaser, like getting them up to eight and a half.
I do not trust the Dolphins to string together performances like this, especially when they're not playing the underdog role.
I feel like it would be Commanders or pass for me.
I don't like these international games.
This is our last one, by the way, so we don't have to worry about that moving forward once we're done with Commanders and Dolphins.
Speaker 2Okay, see the.
Speaker 3Terry McLaurin jokes about him wanting to just go for a vacation, Yeah.
Speaker 2Well I would.
Speaker 1I'm sure he's gonna enjoy himself in Spain.
He doesn't have to worry about playing a football game.
Speaker 3Because he's in Spain without the Yes, baby stuck you what about you?
Speaker 5What a miserable game?
Speaker 2By the way, hopeful we never give the overseas crowd.
Good game.
So well, Colts Falcons was decent.
Speaker 4They deserve it.
Stop taking home games away.
I hate I hate the abroad crap.
Speaker 3I feel like Napoleon Dynamite when I'm just like, no, go find your own Go find your own league, Go find your own teams.
Speaker 4Stop taking home games away.
Speaker 3It takes away revenue, it takes away like jobs from local people.
Speaker 4I hate this crap abroad.
Leave me alone.
I don't care if I sound walk.
Speaker 5I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go with the Vikings minus three at home.
I believe it'still minus three.
I like this Bears team has been like the number one of their defense is still horrendous, and especially about Gordon and Johnson.
They can't stop the run.
They can't have you can't really do anything.
And at this Vikings defense, they will get pressure, they will fluster Williams into mistakes.
I just think this is a good spot to sell on the Bears.
And if you look at the Bears, their wins, so their last, let's just look at their last, all their wins.
This year, they beat the Cowboys, it's a really good spot at home.
Ceedee Lamb went down in that game.
Then they beat the Raiders by one.
I mean they got out gained by I don't know, two hundred yards three yards per play in that game, they beat the Commanders by one, got a couple of fumbles in that game.
We know how bad the Commanders have been this year.
They beat the Saints, they lost to the Ravens with Tyler Huntley.
Then they beat the Bengals on a walk off, and they easily should have lost to the Bengals.
Then they beat the Giants.
Probably should have lost that game, neither the crazy comeback or three percent win probabilies.
This team has played such an easy schedule and then every week someone gets hurt like they've been playing so many backup quarterback like Dark gets hurt.
Last week they get to play Tyler Huntley.
They played the Bengals with obviously with Burrow not there.
They played the Saints when you know Rattler, who's since been benched.
So I mean, look at this team's schedule.
I mean, since starting zero to two, they have played nothing but clowns.
For lack of better word, I mean, look thinking about it, Raiders, Cowboys, Commanders, Saints, Bengals, Giants, and then you know they got blown out by the Ravens when even without Lamar.
So I think this is a good spot to sell the Bears Id McCarthy, even McCarthy with he's still doesn't look great.
But this Bears defense, I mean, if the Vikings want to run it, they should be able to do that.
There's gonna be easy completions, and I think that the Vikings can create enough chaos with Caleb running around.
I mean, Kayla's been doing this against their run game has been very good.
I'll give them that, But you just watch the Bears offense with kleb on like passing downs.
It's like and he's been playing horrendous defenses for two months.
He's just bailing out of the pocket like it's almost the same play.
He'll snap it and then he's created some big plays, some explosive plays credits in, but again, look at the quality of defenses and then he just bails one to eighty and then he's running around for his life.
So he's not been very efficient.
He's been explosive, but I'm not sure that can work in Minnesota against this floor as defense.
So I think there's gonna be probably a lot of negative plays.
And this is a Bears defense that is a lot worse than some might think because they just benefited from so many turnovers and if you remove those, this is a really really poor unit due to the injuries.
So yeah, I like the Vikings to bounce back.
We just said the Jets that the Bears are the anti Jets.
The Jets are minus ten in turnovers.
The Bears are plus fourteen, which is crazy.
Speaker 1Bears are the only team that six and three are better that has a negative point differential on the season.
Speaker 5Yeah, so I think it's a good spot to get.
It's like a nice comfortable game for McCarthy.
And the Bears just don't have anyone who can cover the Vikings, and I think Floras and that defense will coax Williams into enough mistakes and negative plays that they can get it done at home.
So I think this is just a little cheap, pretty good spot for the Vikings in like close to a must win for their season in that division.
Speaker 1I am gonna go with the Texans minus seven.
Speaker 2You can get this at minus one.
Speaker 1Fifteen versus the Tennessee Titans under our local Titans back or week after week.
There are other bets that I like out there.
Actually already have about four in the app right now, but.
Speaker 4This is not with the Texans and their fans.
That's all.
Speaker 2Hih that's true.
Okay, so this isn't about Tennessee.
This is about Houston.
Speaker 1The line indicates that Stroud is not playing, so if he does, we are getting ahead of the number in a pretty drastic way.
I don't usually like to tempt fate with these injuries, especially with something as unknowable as a concussion.
But honestly, if I'm sitting there with a minus seven on Sunday with Davis Mills as the quarterback, I mean I'm just not gonna be that perturbed by it.
This Texans defense is elite.
The Titans can't move the football.
They've turned the ball over thirteen times this year.
Texans defense fourth in takeaways, number one in success rate, facing a team that's thirty second on the offensive side.
Speaker 2Quarterback be damned.
Speaker 1This is about the league's top defense playing the league's worst offense.
Seven points is fair, and I will take my lumps if CJ.
Stroud is announced as out again.
Our recap four they plant the flag games presented by DraftKings Commanders plus two and a half against the Dolphins, Vikings minus three facing the Chicago Bears and Texans minus seven against the Tennessee Titans.
Now for the main events, no betting week can start without it.
It is the primer courtesy of Evan Abrams.
Evan, welcome to this show.
Great job on Sunday night.
What are the odds and trends we need to be aware of before we fire away?
Speaker 7Well, first of all, thank you Brandon.
Speaker 8In our chat right now, someone said Davis is Mills's mom wouldn't lay seven with him on the road.
I think that makes a ton of sense based off of the handicap we just heard.
But to answer some of the questions stuck.
I'm going to look into this further, but I just could quickly aquery looked like rookie head coaches.
Thursday Night football is underdog six and thirty five straight up last decade.
So I loved some stuff there, but really really terrible.
The other one that's real good for the Thursday night game.
You mentioned no interceptions.
I believe Jets are just the second team since nineteen forty no interceptions through nine games twenty seventeen Raiders.
Speaker 5Also, I remember that question.
Speaker 7Yeah, absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 8So yes, plus one thirty five terrible value, but easy bet.
I can't wait, Patriots remaining strength to schedule also absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 7You guys talked about it.
Speaker 8Thirty four percent win percentage for remaining teams, Jets twice, the Giants and the Dolphins still to come up for them.
Speaker 7Pretty crazy.
Speaker 8In terms of other stories, just this week, I mean the MVP race right now, you've got six players at ten to one or shorter.
Just for reference, we haven't seen that number in like a decade in terms of total players ten to one or shorter entering week eleven.
So MVP rice absolutely awesome right now.
We discussed it on Sunday night, but really really fun.
A lot of people will talk about the Giants after firing Dable.
Obviously Callahan gets fired.
They laid the egg against Vrabel and the Patriots.
But seven and a half decent number.
That'd be the biggest upset for an in season firing since Todd Haley Romeo Crenell twenty eleven.
Speaker 7With the Chiefs.
Speaker 8So this would be a big number for the Giants to come through this week.
We've talked about like the small bump, but yes, again very small.
Speaker 1I read where Matt Stafford this is the first time in his long career that he's ever been the it's one favorite to be the MVP.
Speaker 7Yeah, any point, I think that would make sense.
Speaker 8I mean, also, this is the biggest week of Stafford's career, so he's MVP favorite, and I believe for the first time ever he can go above five hundred for his career, because I believe he's five hundred on the dot right now for the first time like ever in his career because of all the Lillian's years.
Speaker 7So this is a big week for his career.
Speaker 8The other one that's really fun in terms of just overall numbers this week, the Bucks off a loss have been really, really good.
Speaker 7We've talked a lot about the.
Speaker 8Lions in that situation, but with Baker thirteen and four against the spread, and then when you just go back to the Rams, he's fifteen and four.
He's covered six in a row off a loss.
Obviously big number there with the Bills this week, but interesting nonetheless.
Speaker 5Talk about a lay in an egg Yeah, unreal hungover.
I mean, I don't know if they were out all night in Miami or just that emotional letdown in the humidity after the Chiefs win.
But man, today look just come depletely days than a fog from the very beginning of that game.
So yeah, that becomes a much more important game for both teams off of a loss, and we'll see if the Bills bounce back at home where they rarely rarely ever you lose, Just to.
Speaker 7Be just to be clear, go into the elbow room.
Speaker 8Definitely not going to come back to haunt Mike McDonald in the future.
There's no way that's going to come back to get him.
Speaker 1By the way, the Dolphins closes an eight point eight and a half point underdog, they end up winning by seventeen, and now they're favored in the following week.
I imagine that the trends are not in Miami's favor to cover the spread again.
Speaker 7Yeah, most likely not.
I'll have some stuff in the primer on that.
Speaker 8But yeah, it's a bad spot off of a big upset, especially when you do a drive by to the opponent's bar.
Speaker 2I love it.
I love the saltiness.
Speaker 1And then last thing I have for you, You had a great one on Sunday about the uniqueness of the Rams and the Seahawks.
How good these teams have been at not just winning, but covering the spread as well.
Does that bode favor for either side here Seahawks coming in as a two and a half point dog.
Speaker 8So I'll give you a teaser to read the primer to actually get the angle.
But the thing I love the best is that both teams seventy seven plus percent win percentage straight up and against the spread.
We haven't seen a game week ten or later.
We're both teams seventy seven percent straight up and ats face off in I can even find I've seen some seventy fives where both teams we're winning three quarters of games.
But this is a very very unique matchup that's like forty years in the making.
So from like a covering and winning and same division, we've had like three or four weeks of some great games.
Speaker 1And that'll do it for today's episode special thanks to our producers David Paine and Gifford Gold, our stats guy.
Go check out the primer from Evan Abrams.
The Favorites will return next Thursday right here on the Action Network YouTube page when we talk Week eleven best bets.
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