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Ancient America: Grand Canyon, Ancient Egypt, G.E. Kincaid's Discovery, Mesoamerica, Ra, Apophis, Quetzalcoatl & Kukulkan w/ Rye Voss

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All right, folks, welcome back to another episode of the Awakened podcast.

I'm your host, Brad Leo, and in this episode, I'm joined by my good friend Roy Voss from Kok's Curiosities to talk about the ancient Egypt connection to the Grand Canyon here in the United States.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 1

I've been wanting to start recording an Ancient America series for the past few weeks, so when I recently heard aj Gentile from the Wi Files talking about the Grand Canyon conspiracy on Rogan's podcast, I figured it would be the perfect topic to sort of kick things off with in this series.

In this first episode of the series, Ryan and I talk about the story of ge Kincaid and his trip down the Colorado River in nineteen oh nine and the discovery he made once he reached the Grand Canyon.

We also compare the similarities of deities from ancient meso America to those of ancient Egypt.

Now think you guys are going to really enjoy this episode and this series because there's a ton of hidden history in the Americas, especially in the United States, that we're going to try to impact for you guys.

There are ancient patrick glys, geoglyphs, stone circles that are older than stone hinge pyramids from what they call mounds essentially, and all these megalithic structures that are hidden in the National forest and national parks that we'll be exploring all throughout this series.

So Ryde lives in Mexico, so he'll be adding a deeper level of understanding of meso American culture to the conversation.

And of course I live in the United States, so hopefully I can contribute in some way about the propaganda we're being fed by our school systems, by our government, and of course by our media.

So, like I said, I think you guys are going to really enjoy this episode in this series, And I guess I could stop running my mouth and just start the show right So, without further ado, let's go ahead and get right into the conversation.

It was like a few years ago, where I've found these the names of all these landforms in the Grand Canyon, and how they all bear these Egyptian names.

You know, you got like Isis Temple and Osiris Temple and Horror Temple and the Temple of Raw and the Tower of Raw and the Tower of Set and all these different landforms.

And whenever it discovered that, I was like, why is that not like more prominent in in our history books.

It just it blows my mind all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3

I agree, And it's something I had never even learned about until like with this past year.

It's like what you know, like the and then you start comparing the looks of them to actual these ancient Egyptian structures, and you start scratching your head and wondering, okay, this is this is not a coincidence.

You know, there's a there's reason for this.

Speaker 1

It seems like a conspiracy to cover up all this stuff.

And again that's what they were talking about on on Rogan was that why can't we go here?

Why are there black cop you know, black hawk helicopters, these black black ops helicopters flying around Why is the FBI guarding who who can and can't go in there?

Why does UNESCO have it as a World Heritage Site?

And and it's a national US National Park or national yes national park.

So you know, there's all these rules.

You can't fly drones over, you can't fly your plane over, there's all these rules that you can't and and it's all design.

It's all done in under the guise of like safety and you.

Speaker 3

Know preserve, yeah, preservation of the natural landscape.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but it just isn't It doesn't make sense to me because you know there the ocean itself is dangerous, so you can go out into the ocean and go swimming and dround and and then it would be a big search and rescue effort, and so they cite that as well, that there's a search and rescue cost and all this other stuff.

So you know, it's a lot of stuff that kind of makes you scratch your head about.

You know, we can't go hiking on certain trails, and now there are there are some things like you know, there's Native Americans tribes there there.

They want to sort of preserve the region as well.

I get that some of that stuff.

I have no problem with but when when you when you're calling something temple of raw and then there's all these stories like the guy the story of g.

E.

King Cad who you know, went down and found this cave in, you know, in two thousand feet up in the middle of the Grand Canyon.

You know, it makes you like, it really makes you question what's really going on.

Like I said that you know something, they're hiding something from us.

Speaker 3

I could not agree more with you, you know, And it's a lot of times, and I've heard this more and more where you know, they're making these national parks not to preserve, but to control entrance and to control that area.

You know, it's a and again, yeah, people think that it's to control so that they can protect, but it's to control so that they can actually, uh you know, keep us away and you know, uh like like sensor censor us from from the truth.

And it's becoming more and more prevalent, especially with all these stories like Kincaid and everything.

You know, it's something that I just learned about recently as well, and it's it's fascinating, fascinating.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And for those who don't know the story of g.

E.

King Kid is he's a he was a seasoned explorer and a mineral prospector from Lewiston, Idaho.

And he claimed to have worked for the Smithsonian for thirty years.

And he basically, in October nineteen oh eight, he set out on a solo journey from Green River, Wyoming down the entire course of the Colorado River in a small like a small boat, small skiff, and he took seven hundred photographs of the river and canyons and different things.

So basically he was on this mission from the Smithsonian to go and photograph these minerals in these different regions along the along the Colorado River.

And you know, he mentioned that he found some interesting archaeological sites along the way, and he expressed this intention to return the following winter.

And what I'm talking about is that the Arizona Gazette did a big story on him, like a welcoming story, right, And then that was in March of nineteen o nine, Well like a month later, between that March article and the next article in April, Kinkaid returned to the Grand Canyon region, where he claimed to have made a remarkable archaeological discovery.

According to Kincaid, during his descent of the Colorado River.

He noticed curious stains in the rock formations on the east wall of the canyon, approximately two thousand feet above the riverbed.

He reached the spot with great difficulty and discovered the entrance to a vast underground cavern.

The entrance was located nearly fourteen hundred feet down a sheer canyon wall, making it extremely accessible.

I'm reading something, by the way, for those who know this is not off the top of my head.

I'm too stupid to memorize all this.

Inside, Kinkaid found a complex network of tunnels, chambers, and passageways, some stretching nearly a mile underground, all seemingly carved by human hands with remarkable engineering percent decision.

He described hundreds of rooms connected by straight passageways featuring oval shaped doorways and ventilation shafts.

One of the most notable finds was a large cross hall containing an idol or image, sitting cross legged holding a lotus flower or lily in each hand.

The idol's facial features were described as oriental, resembling a Buddha figure.

Surrounding the idol were smaller statues, some beautifully formed, other oddly distorted, possibly representing good and evil, so the cavern contained copper tools, war weapons, and hardened copper instruments, indicating a high level of craftsmanship.

There were also vases, urned and glazed pottery, some with hieroglyphics that scientists hoped to decipher.

The presence of these items suggested to Kincaid and the Smithsonian researches that the civilization might have originated from the Orient, possibly even ancient Egypt, tracing back to the time of Ramses the Great, who was a pharaoh known for his extensive building projects and military expeditions that expanded Egypt's reach.

So Kincaid also described a crypt filled with mummies, each male, laid on separate shelves, with copper cups and broken swords nearby, suggesting that the site might have served as military barracks.

The Smithsonian Institution, under the direction of Professor S.

A.

Jordan, was said to be conducting thorough explorations of the site, with plans to expand the team to thirty to forty workers.

Kinkaid emphasized that the site was on government land and strictly off limits to the public.

No subsequent Smithsonian report or follow up excavation was ever published, leaving Kinkaid's story unverified but lingering as one of the most mysterious and debated legends of early American archaeology.

So I know that was a lot for me to read and for me to go through.

The reason I had to read sort of summarize that for you is because there's two articles.

There was a March nineteen o nine an article in the in the Arizona Gazette, and then there was an April nineteen o nine article in the Arizona Gazette, and and it sort of the first one was like a welcoming the second one was like, Okay, he came back and he discovered some more things right.

And for those it was really hard to find that you and I were talking about being shadow band before the episode started.

It was super hard to find that because the only thing that we had was like a picture of the article from the Arizona Gazette.

We didn't have any hard papers that believe it or not.

I went to the library, local library here where I live, and I just wanted to get some old newspaper articles.

I figured there was a whole room full of them you could just go through and or maybe one of those little slides that you can yeah, yeah, and there was none of that.

I was really surprised, and they said, no, they don't.

They don't do that kind of stuff.

It's like some of that stuff is just in movies and all the I'm like, okay, some of it was documented like that, but a lot of that stuff is sort of in movies.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So I had to dig deep, and I had to go to yondex, which is a search engine that is not controlled by Google's not controlled by being and I had to actually search pretty hard to find the full articles.

And so I have both full articles on the word document that I'm going to put on the website, on my website with this to accompany this episode.

For anyone who wants to read those, you can determine those for yourself.

So that being said, so it's you know, obviously there's a lot of the Smithsonian is debunking all this.

They're like, oh, we don't know who he is, a made up story and all this stuff.

But if the people of uh in Arizona knew or Yuma knew that he was coming, it must have been a big deal there.

Speaker 3

There had to be something, you know, especially if they're celebrating you know, his his trip off and then his trip back as well.

You know, that's that's really interesting.

And it sounds like they go into much detail, So this isn't just like some fabrication, you know.

It sounds like they are going into this detail the statues he found, these rooms he found, the length of these these shafts and whatnot, and and and and in this uh, this this place that he found, it sounds almost like a bunker type style of location, like you know, a type of dwelling, and like, of course there's military barracks within it, but I think it it sounds like it's so much bigger than than just military, like its I personally believe it's a lot bigger than that, like to house a civilization and in case an end of the world type of scenario, apocalyptic type of scenario.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And again it just points to the idea that you know, maybe Ramses was also, like I said, you know, doing this expedition across across different continents, and or maybe maybe there were maybe it was another part of Egypt that we just don't know about.

Maybe all the we we talked about this the other day, maybe all the land masses were sort of connected at one point.

I don't necessarily believe that.

Speaker 4

You don't necessarily believe that either, but yeah, Like what what I do believe though, is is that the you know, prior to we're going way back to like the Younger dry Ass, that there was much less water in the oceans, and so these land masses were actually a lot bigger, and these oceans.

Speaker 3

Weren't so vast across.

It would be a lot easier to cross at those times.

And you know, during before the Younger Dryass, you know, it would be easier for civilizations, which I believe existed at that time, to cross and you know, to intermingle them or to seed or expand their empire.

Speaker 1

Well, I think that whole region, that whole region is meso America, you know, And I think, you know, the Smithsonian was founded just two years before the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was signed in eighteen forty eight, which basically that was right after the Mexican American War.

We took the land from Mexico and that basically and I think that that was seized because it was meso America.

It was considered Meso Maria was part of Mexico, and I think all these artifacts were there, and I think the Smithsonian was sort of like, Hey, we got to go in there and get all these artifacts and kind of wrote this land off and and call it our own and start rewriting the narrative for history.

So let's call them let's just say they were Native Americans or whatever, and you know, all this other stuff is just natural geological formations.

And I actually believe that that's actually what happened, you know.

Yeah, so that whole region man meso America, that's what that is.

And I'm saying that to try to set the scene for what we're what we're trying what we're getting into today, which is the comparison of you know, ancient Egypt with meso American deities like serpent feathered serpents and sun gods and things like that.

Speaker 3

Yeah, there is a lot of connection between that and and if we want to go into like the sun worship in the ancient Americas, you know, really does echo Egypt as well.

And do you mind if I take it take it over from there?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you know, when we're when we're talking about the meso Americas, you know, we're in the Americas in general.

We're not just talking about the one civilization, you know, giving thanks to the Sun.

This was a like huge, double continent wide understanding of the Sun as a divine force, a cosmic regulator, and sometimes even a celestial king maker.

And that's important for the Incas.

Now, from the towering Andes to the Meso American jungles to the North American plains, the Sun, the Sun was everything.

And the deeper you dig, the more you start, you're going to start to see that these these eerie echoes, they're not just American cultures, but across the Atlantic, when the Egypt and Mesopotamia.

You know, it's like they were all drawing from the same primordial code.

So let's start with the Incas.

Okay, so the children of Indi, and so at the heart of what we call Peru, these the Incas people were seriously obsessed with their main deity, which was Indi, the Sun god, who wasn't just floating above them as some abstract power.

He literally was the father of their emperors.

Okay, So the Inca ruler, the Sapa Inca, claimed to be he would he would say that this person is the living embodiment of Indi on earth.

So that's why I was saying about the divine right of kings which was given to them by Inti, the Sun God.

Now, the capital city, Kushco wasn't just political as well, it was cosmological.

So right in the heart there was a temple.

They had a temple of the Sun.

And now this temple was literally covered with sheets of gold which would reflect Inti's light.

And this, this building then would be a I don't want to say a rival, but just say, you know, it would portray Indi itself because it would it would look like the Sun.

And this temple was the Axis Mundi of the world center for the Inca Empire.

They would have like uh, they would have like a big, huge cultural celebration.

They would make a pilgrimage every year to this and now this this pilgrimage took place.

I believe it was the winter solstice in December.

So that's an interesting thing and they still do that to this day.

Now.

Also, it gets interesting because in ancient Egypt you have Raw the Sun god right and the city and then they had the Heliopolis, which is the city of the Sun.

So in both cultures the divine Sun rises from a sacred origin point.

In Egypt, it was the ben Ben's Stone and in the Andes Lake Titica where the first children of the Sun.

Like it's all tying in together, you know, the Mancos, Gatpac and Mama Oco emerged.

It's like they were telling the same myth, just dressed in different symbols, which is really really fascinating if you think about it, like the amount of geographical distance between them, but they're still having the same things.

And now, just like the Egyptians had festivals tied to the flooding of the Nile, they had the and the rising of Cyrus.

The Inca held Inti Rami, which is a massive this is what I was talking about.

This is massive winter solstice celebration in Cusco.

Now they believe that if they didn't honor the sun properly, and this is important, that it would literally end.

And it sounds like a lot, a lot like the Egyptian idea of maht, which is the cosmic balance that had to be maintained through ritual prayer and sacrifice.

You know, this was Ro's battle when he went into the underworld, and he would come back again and this is the same kind of concept.

Now, now we're going to move north here to the Mayan territory and things get a little more technical.

Though.

These folks were like, I don't know, they're like Nasa of the ancient world.

But that's a whole other story if we really want to believe NASA.

Now, their their sun god was Kinchaku, which is associated with music, kinship, war, and prophecy.

Now he was They said that he was a radiant, beating being and he had like squinting eyes and jaguar traits because jaguars, in their cosmology were tied to the underworld and solar cycles.

But now here's where the Maya really starts to flex.

Speaker 5

Right there.

Speaker 3

Their architecture was literally a calendar.

Now, the pyramids like El Castillo and Chizanita were aligned with the equinoxes so precisely that on those special days, and this is cool.

I've never seen this yet, but I've I seen videos of this.

So a shadow would appear on the steps, forming the image of the of a serpent slithering down the pyramid.

And though this was the feathered serpent god cuckoo Can, which we can get into later, but for now, we're still focusing on the sun.

So they were obsessed with them.

They tracked it using two in locking calendars, the solar calendar and the ritual calendar, and this created the calendar round and the long count.

Okay, and this is when everybody believed, like the Mayan calendar was coming to an end.

And because they had these two rings, they had an inner ring and an outer ring, and this is how they tracked the time.

And this is when everybody was afraid that the Mayan, you know, the Mayan calendar, was coming to an end.

Now it's important to note that a lot of people who think they see the Mayan calendar, it's actually the Aztec calendar they're looking at.

The Mayan calendar is a lot different.

It's not as I would say, it's not as cool looking now.

And now they also again this was it was their culture was very spiritual.

And now the sun itself just wasn't a timekeeper.

Of course, it was a cosmic warrior, just like raw here again, fighting through the sky during the day and battling the underworld at night.

I thought I've heard that before.

So what they did also is for them to keep the sun going.

They did it with sacrifice, not just not always human, but sometimes human.

The idea was to offer life to preserve life, the sun needed fuel to rise, so in a weird way, in a actually a very Egyptian idea too.

And egypt raw rode a solar bark through the heavens by day and the duat the underworld by night, and each night he battled Apep, the great chaos serpent.

And the only way Rod could make it through was through ritual and divine order, so to have some cosmic rhythm through there.

So again we're seeing these similarities through these cultures that are separated by this vast, vast distance.

And now going to jump now to the Aztecs, you know, because a lot of people get confused the Minds and astecs because they're very similar, but they're not the same.

Now the Aztecs, things get intense with them, Okay.

So their entire worldview was built around the belief that we're currently living in the era of the fifth Sun.

So the previous four sons were destroyed by cataclysms.

You know, the first one was wind, then fire, then jaguars, and then floods.

Floods.

Yeah, kind of like the the younger dryat so you name it.

And now the current son is a warrior god.

And he didn't just rise into power.

He rose demanding sacrifices and hearts.

Yeah, so literally demanding hearts.

Now, so that to the Aztecs, sacrifice wasn't brutality.

It was it was to like maintain this cosmic balance.

And if they didn't feed him like blood, he would falter in this battle in the darkness, would devour the earth.

So there the temple, temple mayor and the sacred site for most of these ceremonies, and it was dedicated to the god of Sun and war and also to the god of rain and fertility.

And again we see a duality of sun and sun and water and fire in life and chaos and growth all coming in together.

So they would they would sacrifice them.

And like we're talking thousands, there's thousands of sacrifices.

Now, this just going back there.

This also mirrors Egyptian deities as well, like the dualities of Raw and Osiris, Horus and Set, like the forces of light and dark in this constant cosmic interplay.

And like the Aztecs, the Egyptians believed that the sun power had to be protected by ritual magic offerings and the living body of the king.

Very interesting.

Speaker 1

So yeah, what what by the way, I want to add this in there because I was I just did a quick search on this.

The Antiquities at the Archaeological Resources Protection Act and other federal laws make it legal to collect damage or even inner inner certain protected areas of the Grand Canyon without purpose.

So why would there be an Antiquities Act and an Archaeological Resources of Protection Act on the Grand Canyon when if it was just a natural geological formation.

But anyways, getting back to what you're saying, Yeah, and they're all they're all just you know, the mess American and Egyptian civilizations, they both built these massive step pyramids worship sun guys uh revered serpents.

They you know, they revered them as these like power and transformations and and things like that.

Like you mentioned man and you live in Campeche, right, I mean there's some there's some Mayan type pyramids right near you somewhere, right.

Yeah.

Speaker 3

One of the nearest ones is Etsna And yeah it's it's a step pyramid as well.

If this one isn't like it isn't set up to show the feathered serpent coming down the stairs.

But you know it, there is a lot, a lot lot of these sites, you know, and I think it's something like they say, only like twenty percent or even less than that are actually excavated here because it costs so much money.

And if you're driving out in the jungle, the jungles are pretty flat.

And if you're driving out and you see like large hills, those aren't hills.

Those are more pyramids that are just waiting to be on earth.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 3

It's it's really fascinating.

They're just about every one of these had anyone of these sites had like this observatory, this cosmic observatory.

Every every single site had that, so it is extremely important.

Like in Balanke they had it, in Chiitsnitza in Mayapan, all these sites they had that, and all their buildings were aligned accordingly to you know, usually the solstices.

Yeah, there's a there's a place called I believe it's called Circle Stone Observatory in Phoenix, Arizona, which is like one of the and I believe that whole region is known as like the Serpent Region or the Snake Region or something like that, but it's it's one.

Speaker 1

Of the oldest.

I believe it's even older than Stone Hitche.

It's like this these stone this pueblo stone circle, stone hinge type place on on top of I'm gonna jack it up if I try to do the name of this like on top of a mountain somewhere out in the Phoenix area.

But yeah, Rams is the second who I was just talking about earlier.

He claimed to be the son of Raw and the protector of order.

So that's another interesting like you know, he thought he think that he thinks that he was a descendant of you know, Raw himself.

So again that's the that's another connection to what King Kid was talking about.

And when he found this was like he was basically saying that not basically he was saying this is Oriental or Egyptian or something.

I don't know what this is.

And it ties back to Ramses himself.

Speaker 3

Wow, And like again yeah, so you have Ramseys claiming he's the son of the like he's a descendant of the of the Sun god or Raw.

And know the same thing with the Indi they were they were the same like you know, the the Incas they were claimed to be the living embodiment of Indie.

You know, which was their their sun god as well.

So like the emperor or the ruler was there there again again like this living embodiment of the or a descendant of the sun god.

Speaker 1

Now you mentioned the raw and Apophas or apep that constant battle between them and the sky.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Do you see apep as being the same as the feathered serpent, because Apophas is known as like the serpent, a sky serpent.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

See see that.

That That's something I've I've been thinking about and I'm like, I don't because like Cuckoo clan is is the is the feathered serpent here, you know, the Cuckoo clan or Keskoto, and they're not really in battle.

They they don't fight like the Aztec sun god or the Mayan sun God.

They're they're not fighting.

So that's that's maybe a little bit different on that aspect, you know.

But an interesting fact is this is that the Cuckoo clan was said to be a fair skinned and have a beard, which you don't find in the in the Mayans or the Aztecs, right you.

So Couckacan or or Queso Koto was was said to have like this this beard, fair skin, like almost a white beard if I do recall, and you know there was depictions of of Egyptians as well that had beards as well, and Egyptians weren't known to grow facial hair, So where where is that coming in?

So it's very interesting to see those commonalities.

Speaker 1

So quest o'cuador was the Aztec version of Google kN That is that correct?

Like so quest Aquador was as tech cuco Con was Mayan, and then Awanyu was hoping I believe that those are all the same, like feathered serpent.

Is that correct?

Yes, that is correct, That is correct.

Yes, hopefully I didn't miss that.

Hopefully say that have missed it when you're saying.

Speaker 3

It, No, no, no, I think you're good.

I think you're good.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, But it just seems like there's like, uh, you know, it still has this echo of the same you know, they have the same like uh, you know, the god of wind and rain and creation and enlightenment and all this other stuff.

And it's interesting that cuts a Cludo is also aligned with the with Venus, right, and Venus is like the morning star.

And if you look at like the stories of Lucifer in the Bible, Loocifer is the Morning Star in the Bible, and there's always these blood sacrifices to quetaquaudle Am I wrong in saying that there's blood sacrifices of quests o'cuadal.

And there's also allegedly there's blood sacrifices to you know, Lucifer or like a Satan type of being in the Bible.

So a lot of parallels there as well.

Speaker 3

That's that's interesting.

It's very interesting, right.

Speaker 1

Yeah, man, they're there's some along the thirty third parallel, which is which I talk a lot about in that same region, like the Colorado River.

You know, Colorado River runs through the Grand Canyon.

Obviously it makes its way down to like Arizona and the further parts of Arizona.

There's an area called blythe California which is like on it's right on the boy the Calora River runs right through Arizona and California border and Blyth is right in the middle.

And there's these massive like basically these etchings called geoglyphs that you can only see from the sky, and they depict human figures, animals, and serpents, and again they can only be seen from the sky.

A little bit further east, of that.

There's a place called Three Rivers Petroglyphs Site in New Mexico and it has about twenty one thousand carvings of these anthropomorphic figures, and they have all of these figures have these elaborate headdresses, and there's like these serpent motifs and all this stuff, and so these figures sort of mirror the elaborate, you know, iconography of ancient Egypt, where you know Ramses the Second again ordered his likeness carved, which I believe carved in some of these colossal statues.

I believe they were doing the same thing because I think Ramses was trying to immolate, that he would wear these headdresses and stuff to try to immolate, you know, these same deities that we were talking about in meso America.

So a lot of these petrick gloves and stuff around around the region, is what I'm trying to say.

Arizona, New Mexico and all that stuff depict some of these same deities.

Speaker 3

And I find it fascinating that they have like these.

You know, it's the same as the Nasca lines in Peru where they again there's such a vast distance between them.

But why you know, here's two cultures that separated by these vast distances that are making these aerial images, Like, what is the purpose of that?

Very very interesting.

Speaker 1

There's a book, man, I sent you a copy of it, and for anybody who listens to the show, if you want to check it out.

I believe it's available online for free.

You can get like a free PDF of it.

That's how I got it.

There's a book by a guy named John Delafield Junior.

He wrote a book in eighteen thirty nine and it was called An Inquiry into the Origin of the Antiquities of America.

I know that's very long, but he basically describes these elongated skulls found in Peru, which you know La Marzouli and Mondo Gonzalez and a lot of these guys have gone down and studied these same types of skulls.

They might be even the same ones that they were studying back in eighteen thirty nine, so we're talking almost two hundred years ago.

They were talking about these elongated skulls found in Peru, and some of these skulls look very similar to some of the hieroglyphs that are found in the pyramids and stuff like that in ancient Egypt, you know, and during Rams's reign, Egypt's influence was, you know, like I said, spread pretty far beyond this borders.

So I think that these similarities.

Speaker 3

Well, and I you know, when you're talking about these elongated skulls, you know, Nephertidy and to To To to Common were depicted having elongated skulls as well, which is you know, another tie in with their.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, and it's the only regions in the world that that I believe that there's these elongated skulls like that, and a lot of a lot of people think there's like cranial deformation and all that stuff.

Speaker 3

But like and I talked about that last time with you.

You know previously with you that there is cranial deformation, that is a thing, But there is a big difference between cranial deformation and these elongated skulls because along scale, elongated skulls have more volume.

And you even if you if you change the shape of your skull, you cannot increase the volume.

You know, think about you you got a ball and and and you're just changing the shape.

The volume inside still stays the same.

You can't change it.

But these were much bigger.

I think, like I said that, there were like anywhere between twenty percent larger in volume, which is very interesting.

And just to go back about those Egyptians, most of these elongated skulls were very common in the Amarna period, so that's when Nefertidi and the two phenomenon were around.

So it's just something too like there's a period of time where they kind of were more common.

So interesting.

Speaker 1

Yeah, those meso American myths that you were talking about with the flood and all that stuff.

By the way, yeah, the same book that was just mentioned, an Inquiry into the Antiquities of America, he talks about that too.

How they basically were asking all these Native American people, you know, about these old these structures, these pyramids, these step pyramids and all these different places, these megalithic structures and these elongated skulls, and they had no answer either.

And that was two hundred years ago, you know, so they they basically were like, hey, we found this, we don't know what it is.

We've we've been using it.

So that kind of leads back to what you were talking about earlier with these mists of these cataclysms and stuff.

Like that these did these five different sons coming in the next one possibly being the son of the earthquake, you know, ending in sort of an earthquake or something something more, something that's not fire, flood or famine or anything like that, like we mentioned earlier.

But it seems like again that we're sort of entering into an era where a lot of people are feeling like they're having these feelings like something is coming.

They don't know what it is.

I'm not saying it's a cataclysm.

I don't suggest it's a cataclysm or anything like that.

I don't want to spread fear like that because I personally don't believe that there are that it's a cataclysm coming.

But there there are a lot of people who do feel like we're in sort of moving into a time of change, if you will.

And I don't know what that means, some sort of a transformation into something.

I'd call it an awakening or an enlightenment or something like that.

But others might see it as this end of the world or this you know, other civilizations might see it as this end of the world.

If you're if you're looking up in the sky, for example, we saw all these you and I talked about this with the Jersey drones.

If we're looking up in the sky and we see all this stuff flying through the sky, imagine being in the woods, like you're in the in the jungle somewhere, and you're you know, this uh tribal civilization, and you look up and you see all these things flying all around you, these glowing orbs, and these plasmoids and all this other stuff.

You're gonna think it's like an an end of the world.

Speaker 3

Type of scenario.

So of course, of course, you know, and it's a and and let's let's talk about just I'll just touch on us quickly and then we'll return back to the talking about everything else.

But end of the world or cataclysm sometimes is is an awakening of sorts because you know, your world as you know it ends and something else begins.

So you know, it's it's okay if you're having an awakening, an epiphany, any however you want to call it.

You know, some people are get offended or they get turned off by c worginal enclature.

That's fine, it doesn't matter.

But you know, to grow, we have to let part of us die and then we can move forward.

Speaker 1

I think that's a good way to look at it, because that's kind of how I look at it too.

It's maybe like it's a personal, an individual cataclysm, if you will, Like we each individually go through this transformation into a newer version of ourself whatever that more enlightened version and more aware version.

And it's like, when you know, again, I'm old enough now to where I remember, like they weren't teaching this stuff in school, and why am I just learning some of this stuff five years ago or four years ago or yesterday?

You know, I'm still learning a lot of this stuff.

All of a sudden, It's like the world opened up to me and I'm awakening to everything around me, and I'm like, oh my god, why would they be called the Temple of Raw and all this stuff that doesn't make any sense, you know exactly, And you start to kind of question and you see, you see it in real time and with shows like this and with like not to compare the show to Joe Rogan Show or anything, but you see it on Rogan and other shows that people have collectively started to wake up to this and go, oh, something's going on, almost figure out what it is, and it feels like something has been hidden from us.

There is the whole point of that.

But you know, you read all these you know, you and I have heard it a lot to Y two K was going to kill us, you know, twenty twelve was going to kill us.

I've heard.

I've heard June or April first of this year there's gonna be some kind of a major event.

I've heard continuously the ball the goalpost keeps kind of moving and moving and moving.

Speaker 3

I've heard, Yeah, it's always moved, and there's never anything, and it's just it's kind of like when a chicken little you know, the sky is falling every single time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's a fear driven thing.

And you know, you know, I've heard the twenty twenty five Degal report.

Half the world's population is going to be going.

You look at the what are the Georgia guidestones, They had all that written on there as well.

By twenty twenty five of the you know, here we are halfway through and knock on wood, nothing's happened yet.

Hopefully nothing will happen yet.

Speaker 3

No, of course, you know, and it's really interesting, you know, and then you go you go back and like we bring it back to into the Grand Canyon, you know, and it does look like there was some sort of apocalyptic event though that happened through there and ripped through there and wiped out that type of civilization.

And are we just finding the remnants of it?

And are those remnants, you know, rewriting history if we're allowed to see them.

Speaker 1

Well, you know, twenty twenty five is the year of the Dragon according to the Chinese, but they see it as a symbol of transformation.

That's kind of what we're talking about now.

But a lot of people believe that we're in a little season.

And that's why I had ed Maybril last week to talk about, you know, the different names of Satan and all this stuff, and we talked a little bit about the little season.

I don't know that I buy anything other than like we're again, not to take it back to another episode we did together, but we did an episode again.

They're called Traversing Time.

But we talked about living in the now, on how that each new version of ourself is created with every single second, every single decision we make, every single moment is a new now.

And there are seven octillion atoms in our body, and each one of those represents a universe of yourself, you know, and so every time you make a new decision, it goes to a new universe of yourself.

Is kind of how I see It's kind of a weird way to look at it, but in my mind always get you know, I kind of symbolize things or you know, make a model of how I see it, I guess, and that's kind of how I see it.

As like these these different versions of ourselfs and we can shift into any one of those versions as a vibration.

So yeah, not to get into the vibration and talk again, but that's you know again.

But you know, going back to the Year of the Dragon, you know, we're talking about serpents.

Speaker 3

You know.

It's what's fascinating is the serpent is usually always tied to fertility or the underworld or hidden knowledge.

But you know, if we go to these feathered serpents like Kesicolto or Cuckoo clan, you know, you toss in feathers.

It's interesting when you do that because then it kind of goes to like lightness and air and transcendence.

And then suddenly what we've created with this type of thing is this ying yang deity you know, it's a god that literally bridges the earth in the heavens.

So I don't know, it's almost like they're encoding some sort of spiritual technology into this figure.

Maybe maybe something that explains how like energy and life or even maybe even like divine knowledge move, like how it moves between these worlds.

I don't know.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean I look at you know, like these deities that people sacrifice, make these blood sacrifices to, like the Aztec Theta or the Mayans did, and I see that as I think that's happening now.

I think that there are there's molocs, and there's people, there's these beings, these deities that they still sacrifice too.

And I do believe that there are hidden they They do give people who provide them blood sacrifices for whatever reason that has a currency, and I think it's to create hybrids and all this other stuff.

But that's a whole other topic.

But I think that when they when these people make sacrifices to them.

You know, there's an email by Hillary Clinton I've talked about before that was addressed in the WikiLeaks email leaks from Julian Massange where they were talking about sacrificing a chicken to moloc.

That was a real email that I'm not making that up.

That's what they talked about in their email.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And so I think that they are these like, like what you're saying is things that happened in this meso America is still happening now.

Perhaps that is something that they discovered maybe and and and now they're like, you know, it could be this type of blood magic that they're pulling through and continuing into stay in power.

Because some of these people that like, these people are in power.

It's like, why why are these people in power?

Maybe it is because they are perform these rituals and these magic that they have pulled out of these locations and discovered that there is there is certain you know, magic to it.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

When when they make these sacrifices to them, I think that they're in exchange.

They're given something.

They're given technologies and information and scientific discovery and medicines and metallurgies and all these other different things that as a reward, and they're they're probably given money and power and all this all this stuff that doesn't matter really matter here on earth, but to them while they're here on Earth.

It matters to them.

It's it matters to the Clintons of the world and the bushes and whoever else is to keep to keep that power, and I think that they will continue to do whatever it is to.

You know, Caesar and I did a show called Obvious Obelis where where basically we were talking about how all these Obelists were taken from Egypt and transplanted into the centers of you know, Washington, d C.

In Paris and London, all these places.

They were sort of transplanted there.

They were allegedly carried, these giant Obelists were carried across the ocean and all these different places and putting all these different places to where we could to to where I think that they could harness the power and the energy coming from these different negative entities out there, if you will, and they can steal our energy sort of in none of that.

But now that that dig deeper on this stuff, it looks like maybe maybe these Obelists were already there and they're just telling us all these lies.

Speaker 3

That oh, we brought it or something like that.

Yeah, because you know, these these beings, like these gods that we're talking about, you know, like I I'm more in the belief that they weren't.

They aren't just a myth, you know, like there's a reason that these existed and that they transcended geography and even time, and you can find them all around the world.

And it's you know, because they're either they might be like sky beings or extraterrestrials or interdimensional teachers.

Because I'm going to say that they even as much as we might not like some of the teachings they did teach people.

You know, they brought in technology, they brought this, they they brought in knowledge and civilization to some of these people that it's it's written down and I believe this.

So it's kind of like they're the Prometheans, you know, of the world.

So it's it's really interesting.

And you know, maybe they are from an advanced culture that was wiped out and they just went around the world to try to raise to raise the tech, I don't know, raised people into more into their image.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean there's just about every civilization around the world has this this uh after the Great Flood, you know, five thousand years ago years ago, which according to Antiquities of America that we just talking about and the different you got the code.

Different codexes describe all this as well.

Speaker 3

You got the.

Speaker 1

Codex Teleriano Reminiscence, the Codex Zimaraga, the Codex Chimla I can't, I can't say, the Codex Loud, the Codex Borgia.

All these talk about the same, you know, the gods, the cataclysms and all this stuff.

And again, everybody's always looking up and they're waiting for this serpent.

They're they're looking to this serpent, they're sacrificing.

I mean again, I just feel like there's echoes of that of what's going on.

And they probably discovered this a couple hundred years ago or one hundred and fifty years ago.

Around this time, they started kind of roping off this area and they're like, hey, this is ours.

We're going to fight Mexico over this or whatever, just to get this man.

Because I think that they started discovering then the power of worshiping, unfortunately, worshiping these negative entities or these negative whatever it is.

You don't, you don't, there's not a lot of there's not a lot of lore or lore around the idea that people are sacrificing to a sun god it's usually sacrificing to some sort of serpent deity, you know what I mean, in exchange for something.

And that's again that was what we were talking about a while ago.

Speaker 3

But yeah, but like and I understand that.

But in meso America they were sacrificing to the sun God, but the the actual serpent deity they weren't.

The serpent deity was, which is strange, you know, it kind of goes against what we're thinking.

They were usually like bringing culture and farming and and wisdom and knowledge.

So it wasn't this like the sun God was a different entity which they would sacrifice to to continue to keep a piece to to allow it to continue its journey.

But these other the serpent the feathered serpents were were different, you know, it was it was seen differently.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but you and I we we don't you know, we don't even think like that.

We're not like, oh, how can I gain more power and how now?

Speaker 3

You know and I.

Speaker 1

But we're not thinking like that.

And but there are people who have discovered this occultish knowledge that you could probably do that kind of stuff, you know, uh, and get some kind of a favor that there's there's you know, if there's if there's positive ways to exude energy and light and love and and you know, sort of rise and gain something of value without having to do then there's probably the opposite of that.

And that's all I'm saying is and I think that those people, unfortunately are still uh in control in the world, and they are keeping this knowledge away from everybody.

Probably because of that reason.

That's probably why they've roped up all roped off all these regions.

Like I said, So, I don't know, man, I mean, do you kind of a you know, after studying some of this stuff, do you kind of feel like there's a lot of similarities to the Grand King and ancient Egypt?

Speaker 3

Oh?

Of course, of course there is some immense like it that that's been the room the rumor for quite a while, Like you said, like Kinkaid when he went and explored this area, and then you know that was always like this, this tale kind of like the Golden Oak Island, you know, like the Pirate.

You know, it's always we've always heard this, We've always heard these rumors.

But there's a reason why these rumors exist is because there's truth behind it, you know, to what extent that truth is well it.

You know, we need to figure this out.

Will we ever find out?

I don't know, but I I I think that's what the journey we're on here is to find these similarities and piece them together and bring them forth and you know, bring them forward for everyone to hear, because they're not hearing them.

Like you said, it took you a while just to find those newspapers, newspaper clippings, like you had to go and search and search, And here we go, we present this evidence and I'm in no way and I'm telling everybody you need to believe this or you need to believe that.

But oh, look at the information.

Now, this is information that was very difficult to find that's being covered up.

And now you make that decision for yourself.

You make those you draw those those lines, and see what type of similarities there truly are, and from there, you know, maybe we can start to learn and start to see a little bit more.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and this is the first episode of Ancient Americas that we're gonna do.

I think we're gonna do a little series on this.

Hopefully Rye will continue to join me on some of this.

I might have different guests on for different uh, you know, expertises in different areas and stuff like that.

But for the most part, I'd like to have you back home for this ryuh.

But for those out here out out there who listening, would you mind one more time letting everyone know where they could find you at?

Speaker 3

Well, I will, And I just want to bring up one last thing.

You know, when we said that these that these visitors, you know, these gods could be from somewhere else, well, I'm gonna say that the people, like the Mayan people said that they came from the Atslan people.

Okay, there were descendants of the ats Land Okay, that's that's Atlantis, that is Atlantic okay.

And this of these rooms that were I was talking about that I lived nearby Ed'sna.

There is literally the House of the Atlantean.

Why would that be in there?

Why would they have that there unless there literally was people coming in and you know, and seeding this culture, maybe not even seeding, maybe giving more culture to these people as well.

So it's it's fascinating and there's so much more to it.

And if you guys want to know more, by all means check it out Codings Codex of Curiosities.

I'm on YouTube, Spotify and Apple and everything everywhere else.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, and Ry and I will be doing a live show this Saturday night at nine pm, a remote viewing live show.

It's just something totally foreign to me.

But I did try to do this remote viewing type of thing.

I once I started reading about this a few years ago, I tried to do this like meditation type thing where I never meditated before, and I just did a lot of breath work.

It was like whim Hoff breath work type of medic meditation, meditated, I probably need medication.

Speaker 3

Well, meditation is like meditation is like medicaid.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Well, I I wanted because it was just like this big story of Gabby Patito in the news, and I was wanting to do like like nobody could find her and all this stuff.

And I was like, uh, let me see if I can try to do this.

So I put on a blindfold and I did this breath work.

My body started vibrating and then I had this like weird little vision of Gabby Patito.

But she was she was passed away and this was before they said she would they found her passed away or whatever.

So I don't know if that was just something that I had made up in my mind, you know, and then I saw that, but it definitely seemed like it was something real.

I don't know how to describe that.

Speaker 3

That's fascinating, Like I've done something similar to that as well to another victim.

There was a in Canada.

I was very affected by this young girl who was kidnapped and then and then they believe murdered.

They've never found her, and it was and I did the same kind of similar to what you're saying.

And I did that when I was living in Chewalla, Mexico, And so it's interesting.

Yeah.

So this this live event we're having is June seventh, So if you're listening to this, you know later than June seventh, Sorry you missed it.

You can always go back and re listen to it and do the experiment over.

So there's three experiments that we're going to have on the show.

I'm going to be doing one, Brad's going to be providing one, and matt amst from Planet four twelve is going to provide one as well.

Speaker 1

Do you believe that that's the real thing?

By the way, remote viewing, because I don't know you think it's real?

Okay, cause I don't know if that's the reason I tried, because I just was reading something about something that the experiment how I put Off did in the seventies or whatever, and I was like, I wonder if that works, and that just happened to be one of the things that was on the news at the time.

Speaker 3

That was Stargate Man, Project Stargate.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I got to look into that.

Man.

That's one of those things too that I've been hearing a lot lately as Project Sorry.

I talked about it a little bit with Joel Thomas from Free the Rabbits whenever he was on my episode, but I didn't dig deep enough.

I'd like to do it, maybe a deep dive on that.

But yeah, check us out on Saturday night now.

It's going to be super interesting for sure.

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, it's great content from from Rye for sure.

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Speaker 3

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Speaker 1

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Also, guys, if you want to check me out at a live event, I will be in a live event and on June twentieth and June twenty first in Leesburg, Florida.

Uh there's a bro Brohemian Grove three the Comedy Festival featuring Sam TRIPLEI and Owen Benjamin and Shane Cashman and the guys from Neflin Disquad.

I'll be down there both nights.

I think they said they're gonna pull me up a couple of times to be on one of the conspiracy roundtables.

I'll be there both nights, just hanging out and talking with everybody.

So if you want to check me out, you can come down to Florida on June twentieth and twenty first.

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Speaker 3

I got a question, Brad, are they're going to be broadcasting that live as well?

Speaker 1

Yeah, but I think last time they did like a Rumble live where they they did it, they did it live, but you had to be a member or something along those lines to view it, and then they put it on like two or three weeks later after the event was already over.

Speaker 3

So for if you if you're not a member and you can't make it, you know you can always remote view.

Speaker 1

It or just or just or just view it on your rumble.

So all right, man, Well I'll see you Saturday night, and thank you again for joining me.

Brother.

I appreciate it, no problem, all right, see it.

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